There's a lot of conflicting information online about the Che tree! I tackle the conflicting info in this vid and at heppy.org/che#topics. Che fruit is soft and tastes like cantaloup-watermelon! It's seedless, thornless, does not sucker and the fruit is wonderfully sweet if you get the right tree! this is a COMPREHENSIVE review of the Che tree.
I got mine from Edible Landscaping in 2019 (I'm fortunate to live about 5 miles away) and I've just started to get an abundance of fruit this year. It's a pity that more people don't know about this tree. Thanks for all of your helpful information!
@@scutrbrau you are fortunate to be so close to them and, that's a beautiful area! Very picturesque landscape out there! Yup, Che has been in the US for 100+ yrs and few know about a disease/pest free, low care fruit tree...and few folks know about it 🙃👩🌾. Thx for stopping by!
@@marekwolkiewicz7815 I planted mine five years ago. Last year I had a small amount of fruit, but most dropped before ripening. This year the tree is loaded.
@@marekwolkiewicz7815 she takes awhile to fruit. Probably 2 more years. The first stage - gain size and strength, and no fruit. The NEXT stage - small amount of fruit production and the fruit dropped. The next stage - bring a big bowl cause she makes plenty of fruit 🍒. I planted in super small tree in 2018 and by 2022 I had a lot of fruit. Hope that helped and please subscribe!
Excellent Che video. Unfortunately Che isnt sold at nurseries here in Southern Australia but friends have found a female and can get Osage O so we will graft a few in time - shame didn't begin when i planted Jaboticabas that took 10y to fruit. 🌴
@melbournesubtropicfruits9474 i appreciate your feedback and hello Southern Australia! why the Che didn't catch-on is a mystery to me. you're on-track with the grafting to Osage O! i just googled Jaboticaba (Plinia cauliflora or Brazilian grapetree). WOW, she's unusual! I'm reading, "A Fruit Worth the Wait." outstanding. thanks for stopping by!
I find the Osage Orange fruits on the ground in fall in a few places. Next year I’m going to collect them for rootstock seed to try grafting these. I didn’t know until this that Osage orange had a use as the fruit is inedible
@@GardenAndgrow my $0.02 is to be careful for what you ask for; my one experience germinating OO seeds is that they have a high germination rate, it grows fast, and the ones I have are thorny thorny. Yup, it's the rootstock for Che. Thanks again for stopping by!!
@ I tried to order a Che from edible landscaping and they are out of stock. Alot of stuff is sold out accross the board at different nurseries. I can’t find tilamook in stock either
they are tolerant of many soils (a semi-vague statement); we grow our girls in high organic soil and they've grown very quick. more is here, heppy.org/che thanks for stopping by!
USDA Zone: 6-9 (possibly zone 5), according to my notes. More is here, heppy.org/che here in zone 7, the cold has no affect ;). hope that helped! please subscribe!
@@pierreboyer9277 you know ... I never saw the similarity but now that you mention it, the exterior texture is about the same! But yes, the Che is way smaller. It's a 'never truly adopted' tree. But it should be as prominent as a Mulberry or Fig! Thanks for stopping by!
@ Ah no yesterday was the first day I heard of it ! I'll probably get one even though I heard conflicting opinion on the fruit quality. I found a supplier of Norris and darrow.
@ interesting; glad that vid nudged you 😂. The fruit is fantastic. So far, they do develop better at Edible Landscaping nursery, which is at some elevation, versus mine which is at sea level. There's is much older; she seems to get better over time ;). Let me know how it goes!! t's even more remarkable that you knew what Osage Orange fruit and Che fruit looked like. Those are relatively unknown trees! Nice work!
@warriorprincessphl yes ... if not pruned. get in there and prune the limbs growing straight up. encourage (don't touch) limbs growing sideways above your head. prune like you want a wide tree and not a tall tree. she takes to pruning very well. i posted a lot of info on this page, heppy.org/che-tree-cudrania-tricuspidata/ hope this helps and don't be discouraged. prune, mulch and you'll be good :)
very nice! zone 6 looks good. more about her is here, heppy.org/che. the Goumi may interest u too! heppy.org/goumi Goumi Playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLiRqd6MeiGbJTRqHizJ4Rd3stGMNtevKM.html in Canada i noticed that several nurseries have the Golden Goji (and don't ship to the states :(. can be invasive; very healthy and unusual fruit. th-cam.com/users/shortsVVav6aYlaG8 good luck, thanks for stopping by and please subscribe!
Ascendant95. If your question is to me. I’m growing apple pear plum cherry cold hardy kiwi. Black berry raspberry goose berry honey berry. Chestnuts blueberry elderberry josta berry peach nectarines apricot. What’s coming is quince American persimmon and goumiberry. Still on the hunt for mandarin melon berry.
@piotrwojdelko1150 soil, soil, soil. i make BIG holes and fill-in holes with a lot of organic debris, decomposed woodchips, native soil, and the black compost soil. IF already planted, the amend the soil around the tree as best as possible. the weeds will be happy and you'll cut a few small roots but long term, the tree will grow faster. hope that helped, please subscribe and thanks for stopping by!
@@piotrwojdelko1150 females will begin fruiting by 5 or 6 years old. I hope that answered your question 🤞✌️ Details about flowering / fruiting / male or female is here, heppy.org/che
Edible Landscaping lists its deer resistance as "poor" and that's been true for me. I have mine fenced and the deer eat everything they're able to reach.
Do both male and female Che trees on their own give fruit? I bought a Che tree i dont know if it is male or female. So I was wondering if it doesn't matter because I would just like to have a fruiting Che tree. The supplier didnt add any details if my tree was male or female..
@AntiTagut i hope you purchased from a reputable nursery,. if you did you'll be OK. what variety of Che did you get? it's a GREAT questions and a confusing topic. I did a deep dive of credible sources. go here heppy.org/che and look at "Topic 1: Seedless Che fruit vs. fruit with seeds?" for all the details I could find. hope this helps!
Female trees give the fruit. If no male is present, the fruit will be seedless. If a male is present, there will be seeds but the fruit will mature faster. If you have a shorter growing season, get a male too. If you have a longer growing season, just get females.
I don't have a male but i have a dozen female trees. But i get seeds every now and then. There is a huge forest behind my house that's full of mulberry trees. I wonder if there is some kind of cross pollination going on. All my trees are female.
Am always glad to get feedback from a seasoned person; I'm learning but am on the lower part of the curve. Author/gardener, Dr. Lee Reich mentioned that the Che is among the few plants capable of producing seeds solely from mother plant tissue, without pollination (i.e., it is apomictic). I think that's what you're seeing. Mulberry interaction. Well, if there's a fruiting tree that'll interact, it's the Mulberry :) or :( I cite Reich here, heppy.org/che#Topics_about_Cudrania_tricuspidata Thanks for stopping by!
@@heppylifestyle i mean, i propagate my black mulberries and pakistani whenever I want to, they always root lol so I guess if they’re from the same family, they’ll root too…
@@lordsams my bad -- so ur saying ur not generous 🤣🤣. Anywho -- to each their own. I love my seedless Che fruit!!🍉. They're easy to graft so I wouldn't grow seedlings. Now I'm curious -- why do u want seeds?
@@lordsams you're 100% correct but i could do that for 400 plants :/. i want to be an 'exhibition garden' (i think :/). why not graft to Osage Orange -- i may try grafting the Seedless to Osage this yr :))
I have 15 yers ago from eatable landscaping as self fruiting ( it’s hornless on sage orange ) - ITS NEVER MAKE FRUIT ! All fruit falling every year !!!!!
@olgarebman2538 I'm sorry to hear about your experience! dropping fruit up to year 4 or 5 is normal; after 15 years it's not! you're not asking for an answer but one thought i have is minerals. then again, there could be something wrong with the tree. i am truly sorry to hear about your experience!
@@heppylifestyleI am in my 5th year and finally have some edible fruit.. it dropped fruit every year and I was wondering WTH. I guess I have to wait for a couple more years before it can produce better fruit
@@warriorprincessphl you're ALL MOST there. there's about three stages: 1. young / grows / no fruit. 2. maturing tree / fruit drops 3. mature tree / fruit stays on. I asked the gent at Edible Landscape that very question (fruit drop after yr 4-5). he mentioned what i just wrote. the next yr, the fruit hung on until ripe! thanks for stopping by, plz share the vids and plz subscribe!
There's a lot of conflicting information online about the Che tree! I tackle the conflicting info in this vid and at heppy.org/che#topics.
Che fruit is soft and tastes like cantaloup-watermelon! It's seedless, thornless, does not sucker and the fruit is wonderfully sweet if you get the right tree!
this is a COMPREHENSIVE review of the Che tree.
I got mine from Edible Landscaping in 2019 (I'm fortunate to live about 5 miles away) and I've just started to get an abundance of fruit this year. It's a pity that more people don't know about this tree. Thanks for all of your helpful information!
@@scutrbrau you are fortunate to be so close to them and, that's a beautiful area! Very picturesque landscape out there!
Yup, Che has been in the US for 100+ yrs and few know about a disease/pest free, low care fruit tree...and few folks know about it 🙃👩🌾.
Thx for stopping by!
I planted my trees 3 years ago and still no fruit :( How long did you have to wait after planting for fruit to appear?
@@marekwolkiewicz7815 I planted mine five years ago. Last year I had a small amount of fruit, but most dropped before ripening. This year the tree is loaded.
@@marekwolkiewicz7815 she takes awhile to fruit. Probably 2 more years.
The first stage - gain size and strength, and no fruit.
The NEXT stage - small amount of fruit production and the fruit dropped.
The next stage - bring a big bowl cause she makes plenty of fruit 🍒.
I planted in super small tree in 2018 and by 2022 I had a lot of fruit.
Hope that helped and please subscribe!
I really appreciate the information you share. Thank you.
thank you for saying that, and I'm glad you enjoyed seeing the Che tree! much appreciated!
@@heppylifestyle I wish I had time to emulate your example.
@@riverbender9898 thanks again riverbender! the Che is always greener on the other side of the fence ;). one day at a time my friend....
Excellent Che video. Unfortunately Che isnt sold at nurseries here in Southern Australia but friends have found a female and can get Osage O so we will graft a few in time - shame didn't begin when i planted Jaboticabas that took 10y to fruit. 🌴
@melbournesubtropicfruits9474 i appreciate your feedback and hello Southern Australia!
why the Che didn't catch-on is a mystery to me.
you're on-track with the grafting to Osage O!
i just googled Jaboticaba (Plinia cauliflora or Brazilian grapetree). WOW, she's unusual! I'm reading, "A Fruit Worth the Wait." outstanding.
thanks for stopping by!
I find the Osage Orange fruits on the ground in fall in a few places. Next year I’m going to collect them for rootstock seed to try grafting these. I didn’t know until this that Osage orange had a use as the fruit is inedible
@@GardenAndgrow my $0.02 is to be careful for what you ask for; my one experience germinating OO seeds is that they have a high germination rate, it grows fast, and the ones I have are thorny thorny.
Yup, it's the rootstock for Che.
Thanks again for stopping by!!
@ I tried to order a Che from edible landscaping and they are out of stock. Alot of stuff is sold out accross the board at different nurseries. I can’t find tilamook in stock either
What kind of soil do they like?
they are tolerant of many soils (a semi-vague statement); we grow our girls in high organic soil and they've grown very quick.
more is here, heppy.org/che
thanks for stopping by!
what about cold resistance?
USDA Zone: 6-9 (possibly zone 5), according to my notes. More is here, heppy.org/che
here in zone 7, the cold has no affect ;).
hope that helped! please subscribe!
Cold resistent, I live in the danube valley, climate similar to zone 7a in the us, and it survived the winter without a hitch.
They look a lot like osage orange. Just tiny and red.
Perhaps there could be some hybridation with the Che and Osage orange to get much bigger fruits
@@pierreboyer9277 you know ... I never saw the similarity but now that you mention it, the exterior texture is about the same! But yes, the Che is way smaller.
It's a 'never truly adopted' tree. But it should be as prominent as a Mulberry or Fig!
Thanks for stopping by!
@@pierreboyer9277 are you growing the Che?
@ Ah no yesterday was the first day I heard of it !
I'll probably get one even though I heard conflicting opinion on the fruit quality. I found a supplier of Norris and darrow.
@ interesting; glad that vid nudged you 😂. The fruit is fantastic. So far, they do develop better at Edible Landscaping nursery, which is at some elevation, versus mine which is at sea level. There's is much older; she seems to get better over time ;). Let me know how it goes!!
t's even more remarkable that you knew what Osage Orange fruit and Che fruit looked like. Those are relatively unknown trees! Nice work!
Your tree looks beautiful. Mines is growing wild and as tall as the sky.. is this normal? I have a thornless seedless Che for sure.
@warriorprincessphl yes ... if not pruned. get in there and prune the limbs growing straight up. encourage (don't touch) limbs growing sideways above your head. prune like you want a wide tree and not a tall tree.
she takes to pruning very well.
i posted a lot of info on this page, heppy.org/che-tree-cudrania-tricuspidata/
hope this helps and don't be discouraged. prune, mulch and you'll be good :)
Will a new che tree leaves turn yellow in winter time or lose its leaves in winter. My leaves are turning yellow
@@timschannel910 yup, first some yellowing and then total loss; she's deciduous here in Maryland, zone 7b.
What part of the country or world are in?
im very interested in growing these asap in my food forest. when i find one or two ill definately do a video. im in zone 6b in southern ontario
very nice! zone 6 looks good. more about her is here, heppy.org/che.
the Goumi may interest u too! heppy.org/goumi
Goumi Playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLiRqd6MeiGbJTRqHizJ4Rd3stGMNtevKM.html
in Canada i noticed that several nurseries have the Golden Goji (and don't ship to the states :(. can be invasive; very healthy and unusual fruit. th-cam.com/users/shortsVVav6aYlaG8
good luck, thanks for stopping by and please subscribe!
What else do you have growing in your food forest? I'm moving to SE Michigan and we're in the same climate zone. :)
Ascendant95. If your question is to me. I’m growing apple pear plum cherry cold hardy kiwi. Black berry raspberry goose berry honey berry. Chestnuts blueberry elderberry josta berry peach nectarines apricot. What’s coming is quince American persimmon and goumiberry. Still on the hunt for mandarin melon berry.
@@branchingoutpermaculturewi4766 Wow that sounds amazing. I just learned about goumiberry recently. I hope you procure that che tree!
how to take care to grow faster
@piotrwojdelko1150 soil, soil, soil. i make BIG holes and fill-in holes with a lot of organic debris, decomposed woodchips, native soil, and the black compost soil. IF already planted, the amend the soil around the tree as best as possible. the weeds will be happy and you'll cut a few small roots but long term, the tree will grow faster.
hope that helped, please subscribe and thanks for stopping by!
@@heppylifestyle It possible to check what do I have male or female .
@@piotrwojdelko1150 females will begin fruiting by 5 or 6 years old. I hope that answered your question 🤞✌️
Details about flowering / fruiting / male or female is here, heppy.org/che
Thank you, do you know if the deer eat the leaves? I'm going to try to get one from Edible Landscaping.
Yes...deer eat it as i remember it. long ago, when the EL Seedless was little, i believe it got hammered by a deer that got into the old fencing.
@@heppylifestyle Thanks, 1/2 hr and got the answer I needed. In that 1/2 hr I went to Edible Landscaping and ordered one.
Edible Landscaping lists its deer resistance as "poor" and that's been true for me. I have mine fenced and the deer eat everything they're able to reach.
Do both male and female Che trees on their own give fruit? I bought a Che tree i dont know if it is male or female. So I was wondering if it doesn't matter because I would just like to have a fruiting Che tree. The supplier didnt add any details if my tree was male or female..
@AntiTagut i hope you purchased from a reputable nursery,. if you did you'll be OK. what variety of Che did you get?
it's a GREAT questions and a confusing topic. I did a deep dive of credible sources.
go here heppy.org/che and look at "Topic 1: Seedless Che fruit vs. fruit with seeds?" for all the details I could find.
hope this helps!
Female trees give the fruit. If no male is present, the fruit will be seedless. If a male is present, there will be seeds but the fruit will mature faster. If you have a shorter growing season, get a male too. If you have a longer growing season, just get females.
Where do you find all these weird plants no one heard of lool?
:)
Sooo many unusual plants! I literally created the plants page (heppy.org/plants) so I could remember them! ;)
Thx for stopping by!
I don't have a male but i have a dozen female trees. But i get seeds every now and then. There is a huge forest behind my house that's full of mulberry trees. I wonder if there is some kind of cross pollination going on. All my trees are female.
Am always glad to get feedback from a seasoned person; I'm learning but am on the lower part of the curve.
Author/gardener, Dr. Lee Reich mentioned that the Che is among the few plants capable of producing seeds solely from mother plant tissue, without pollination (i.e., it is apomictic). I think that's what you're seeing.
Mulberry interaction. Well, if there's a fruiting tree that'll interact, it's the Mulberry :) or :(
I cite Reich here, heppy.org/che#Topics_about_Cudrania_tricuspidata
Thanks for stopping by!
Can someone sell me some cuttings 😓😓
@kevencaraballo1990 try posting question to growingfruit.org. I believe it needs to be dormant wood and I won't have that now 😕😎🐞
@@heppylifestyle i mean, i propagate my black mulberries and pakistani whenever I want to, they always root lol so I guess if they’re from the same family, they’ll root too…
@@kevencaraballo1990 great point! are u in the US? looking for soft or hardwood cuttings? u pay shipping....
usc333@mail.com.
@@heppylifestyle I tried sending you an email but it says the address couldn’t be found…
@@kevencaraballo1990 wow, stupid me 🙄😬. it's gmail 🤣. usc333@gmail.com.
The thought of having to take 495 to come over and see you from Manassas makes me sad...
You want seeds
Thank you for the offer but i'm all set! Your offer is much appreciated! 🐞
@heppylifestyle I ment you want seed in the fruit
@@lordsams my bad -- so ur saying ur not generous 🤣🤣.
Anywho -- to each their own. I love my seedless Che fruit!!🍉. They're easy to graft so I wouldn't grow seedlings.
Now I'm curious -- why do u want seeds?
@heppylifestyle why not you could sell those trees for money
@@lordsams you're 100% correct but i could do that for 400 plants :/. i want to be an 'exhibition garden' (i think :/).
why not graft to Osage Orange -- i may try grafting the Seedless to Osage this yr :))
I have 15 yers ago from eatable landscaping as self fruiting ( it’s hornless on sage orange ) - ITS NEVER MAKE FRUIT ! All fruit falling every year !!!!!
@olgarebman2538 I'm sorry to hear about your experience! dropping fruit up to year 4 or 5 is normal; after 15 years it's not!
you're not asking for an answer but one thought i have is minerals. then again, there could be something wrong with the tree.
i am truly sorry to hear about your experience!
@@heppylifestyleI am in my 5th year and finally have some edible fruit.. it dropped fruit every year and I was wondering WTH. I guess I have to wait for a couple more years before it can produce better fruit
@@warriorprincessphl you're ALL MOST there. there's about three stages:
1. young / grows / no fruit.
2. maturing tree / fruit drops
3. mature tree / fruit stays on.
I asked the gent at Edible Landscape that very question (fruit drop after yr 4-5). he mentioned what i just wrote. the next yr, the fruit hung on until ripe!
thanks for stopping by, plz share the vids and plz subscribe!