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Problems with the Bible | Calvin - Texas | Atheist Experience 21.40
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- The Atheist Experience episode 21.40 for October 15, 2017 with Matt Dillahunty and Don Baker.
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You know who enjoyed this show the most?...Calvin’s friend who sent him to this show 🤣🤣🤣
He probably got tired of debating his stupid ass and dumped him off on Matt lol
I heard laughing in the background. I bet it's the friend lol
Lmfaooo
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Viktor Tandofsky we have more proofs that bible is lie an even if we have only one we still have one more than you have to god existence. maybe throw away that god glasses that blocks you from see truth and you will find real world. your only proof for bible stories is bible itself not too convincing argument for bible to be true
"Don't curse. I have children present. Now let me tell you about slavery being moral, woman being unequal, and homosexuals deserving of death....." Father of the year this guy.
Truttlebear....
Hes a kid him self.
NOT a dad
Correct response: "GFY."
Hes not a dad.
U can hear at his voise hes not much older than 20.
HE IS THE CHILD
They just like to control, i PROMISE that kid has heard MUCH WORSE just sitting in a cod lobby...... Not of the likes of mw2 lobbies but still up there
@@themanwithnoname1839 That's why atheists hate God/Jesus Christ because they hate authority. They don't want to be told and proven they are wrong. One day all will know that Jesus Christ is Lord.
"If you're black and christian, you sure have a short memory" - Chris Rock.
Amen!!!!!
Floyd you must be so void of reason to have to repeat Chris Rock's lame quote.
@@rlinton123 It's an awesome quote. Because it's true.
@@rlinton123 Insults don't prove your point, my friend. Not everyone likes Chris Rock, but I do! This point is quite underrated and mostly forgotten...
@@johnnycastellanetta7183 actually if you are a careful reader you'd notice I didn't do an ad hominem attack in Chris Rock . I attack an idea not the person.. I also said nothing about my like or dislike for Chris Rock. Read more careful before you reply because this can make a person don't look to "bright". Hope this clears it up.
"That's your opinion" tends to be a red flag that you're not dealing with an intellectual giant.
"well... that's just like... your opinion, man"
Not all opinions are equal. Some people think slavery is ok.
Tina, Religion is a big fan of charity now. Just not then. When slavery was allowed. I guess we improve our morals over time. So... subjective not objective. Peace to all our brothers & sisters.
@@tinahalford1941 how do.tpu justify beating them as long as they don't die?
How dare you suggest that The Dude is not an intellectual giant.
The caller knows these things in The Bible are evil. He can't admit it because he fears speaking blasphemy. That makes the caller a moral coward.
Very true. He's in a tough spot and trying to scramble his way out of it.
and the 'god' he believes in, an immoral thug.
@@WhatTruthIs We're the idiots? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Did you even read what you just wrote? God needed 'people' to kill the vampires. That god created. He couldn't do that himself with just a thought because he's so incompetent.
If you're not a troll then you're actually a complete imbecile for believing any of this nonsense.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@WhatTruthIs Ew, no thanks. I'll stick with girls.
Jennifer Juniper Agreed. They do that all the time.
Owning a person is not an abomination but eating shellfish is, at least according to Yahweh. Yeah, sounds like somebody I would worship.
What does the bible actually say? It says eating fish without scales and fins are detestable TO YOU. As in its probably not in your best interest because these scavengers, the clean up crew, are full of toxins and heavy metals.
@@keaganjans4490 Oh man, I am so screwed. I love raw oysters, calamari, crab, and lobster. And if there is a god, how do I know he loves me? BACON!!!!! Have you beaten your slave yet today? Make sure you don't put out his eye and that he survives at least a couple of days.
@@keaganjans4490 no they aren't.
Tina Halford I think you are missing the point. 🤦🏽♂️
@@keaganjans4490 and in the book of Matthew it says that humans are not impure based on what we eat
I very much believe that Matt Dillahunty is doing a tremendously good service for humanity by making people recognize their choices and the consequences of those choices. Please keep it up, Mr. Matt !!!
Agree
This dude was so hard to listen to. The worst part is that he seemed to not understand anything and will leave this conversation as ignorant as before.
He probably left it more set in his ways. "That dude is just an asshole. I'm clearly right." - him, probably
He’s going home to beat his slaves .
This caller is a perfect example of the dangers of religion....🤦🏼♂️
"is slavery a good thing?"...er, um, let me think. religion robs them of the very thing they claim it gives them: a moral compass.
They KNOW (generally) what's right and wrong. They say that they base their morality on the Bible, but the parts they base it on are extremely cherry picked. The bulk of what they see as moral and immoral comes from interactions with the people around them and their upbringing. But once you reveal the stuff in the Bible that's totally separate from their understanding of morality, they suddenly start saying stuff that makes no sense.
"Is slavery a bad thing?"
"Well...I mean...I can't say that it's the best thing in the world..."
Once someone is incapable of definitively stating that owning someone as property is immoral, you just have to stop.
This is the classic example of why religion is so incredibly dangerous. If you think that this caller is funny you better study your history. There is absolutely nothing funny about it."There is nothing more dangerous than a man that thinks he has God on his side."
Just think, there are over 2 Billion of these fools. If enough of them get in power we know what happens. Mass persecutions of non-believers. If it wasn't so scary, I'd be laughing at them.
@@countvanbruno182 absolutely my friend, that's what religions have done all through history. If they get too much power we're screwed.
@@countvanbruno182 It happened before with the Inquisition, when killing wasn't enough, but killing, often by burning, after torture.
@Uncle Gold I doubt if those generals really believe that, they are just misusing the population's religion to build this narrative. It's reminiscent of the Italian mafia's gestures of traditionalism and religious zeal.
"To get a good man to do evil deeds, you need religion."
Matt says it´s immoral to own people, yet he owns this guy...
🤣🤣
Props to Matt for giving that kid more time + respect than he deserved
If a person can not say that slavery is immoral ( that simple question ) then he is faking it , or lying to himself .
Dishonest !
Matt kills it here. Holy cow. This will be my favorite episode. Somehow I missed this episode and I have watched hundreds of these.
I bet if this caller was under the impression that these verses came from the quaran then he would have answered differently.
I always find it amusing when Christians have to defend slavery because it's in the bible. He didn't even trot out the tired old "it was actually indentured servitude" argument.
I highly doubt this caller knows what indentured servitude means
@@TheTruthKiwi Seems most christians don't understand that indentured servitude is an extremely shitty life path for the servant. Ask a christian, "would you want your children to be biblical slaves?" You will never get an actual answer.
@@EustaBAracer indeed my friend
Calvin has difficulties.
That's a much better title for this clip.
I wonder if someone dialed the number for him.
I'm leaning heavily on yes.
@jpjpjp np! But you should be thanking calvin though! Without him who would we laugh at?
He was probably deprived of oxygen at birth....
Great comment. I hope he goes back to school and finishes the 6th grade.:)
Matt is such a hypocrite when it comes to slavery...he completely owned Calvin.
@A theism: this is your opinion about hypocrisy? 😂
So, you say that slavery is moral?🤭
WTF Jesus - Calvin, is that you?
@nocalsteve: 😁 no....sorry
I’m more Matt like person but from Fundamentalist Catholic community- experience... this was 30 years ago, now I’m Atheist. 🤘
PS...I know, what “sarcasm” is. U ask so..✌️
🤣 I had to read that like 4 times
Hahah 😂😂😂👏👏👏
I ran someone over once and drove away from the scene. The cops caught up with me eventually and said "you killed someone back there, you're under arrest". I said "no you're saying it wrong" so they let me go.
That's pretty much the Christan excuse make up shit when someone brings up a fucked up passage in the Bible or just straight up lie and say your taking it out of context and cry like a little bitch or just say god works in mysterious ways ooooo fucking stupid ass cult
👍
11:50 I busted out laughing. "I don't agree with him, but I'm wrong".
Tremendous cognitive dissonance. I recognise a problem in the Bible, but God has to be right, so the thing that I just said I thought was wrong, I'm wrong about, yet I'm going to continue wrongly believing a thing I simultaneously believe to be incorrect and correct.
“What happened to good grammar?”
This dude literally said “the uh homo, like, sexual thing or whatever” 4 minutes earlier.
I'd love a timestamp and replay button... This could be the next meme.
“What happened to good grammar?”
I don’t know, but between the two of us, you seem to be the one biting off parts of the English language, chewing it up, and then picking your teeth for fragments of it and then spitting those fragments into my face.
He speaks as gooda grammar as what I do.
A Christian calls in to show us how immoral they are, just gotta love them. Go Christians, keep up the good work. LOL
honestly, i kinda feel sorry for the caller, he has clearly been well trained from the moment he took his first breath.
The caller has obviously literally never read the bible and its brain damagingly stupid to listen to.
It all seems to be about submission to authority to him. I feel bad for his life once he meets a strong personality.
Armchair psychologist
Ian M
Lmfao
MrSubsound90 it’s like that for ever single one of their videos, obviously it’s all fake af and they’re just trying to make Christians look bad.
@@tabia101 I have tin foil hats for sale for the conspiratorial minded.
Spiritual Exploration
Not very difficult to do when you’re debating whether their claims are true or false, their beliefs are based on flawed logic
"Problems with the Bible"
1) no one can show evidence for the existence of the god of the Bible
.... And we can stop at #1.
👏👏👏 nicely said
@@sro2586 TY
That's true. But pointing out the obvious flaws in the Bible such as the support of slavery may help to open up the eyes of a believer. Although it may be very unlikely.😔
@@JorgeTorres2012 You never know. I have encountered a number of Christians who haven't sat down and read the Bible... all they know about the Bible's content is what they have been told in Sunday school or sermons.
So they hear about the good Samaritan and the prodigal son but they don't hear about Lot ( a righteous man, according to the bible) offering up his young virgin daughters to be gang-raped. Or how god will punish people for sins committed by others.
@@cnault3244 Good start. Don't forget asking a man to sacrifice his own child. And don't forget about ruining Job's life and killing his family over a bet with the Devil. And taking away Pharaoh's free will. And killing everyone on the planet except for one family. I wonder what else I'M forgetting about now.
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The frustrating thing is...we do NOT know what the hell he means. Someone get him new tap dancing shoes for Jesus' birthday, because his current ones have holes in them.
translation = “i need some time to pull some bullshit out of my ass real quick”
The caller twists and turns like a twisty turney thing....
I absolutely love your comment
Simon Davies it's called tap dancing! And religious nuts are good at it!
I say you're a weedy pigeon, and you can call me 'Susan' if it isn't so!"
Yes, this call went nowhere at the speed of light.
Oy don't forget to reference Blackadder part two there mate!!
Matt: When god said it was okay to own slaves, that was a good thing?
Caller: When god said WHAT?!
Caller: I don't think you're not intelligent.
Matt: Well, thanks.
Picture in the dictionary under Dunning-Kruger effect.
That's like saying " I think you are at least as smart as I is .
Talking pro-slavery to Matt is never a good idea. Many have failed successfully.
I cant believe i have to share a planet with people like that... disgusting
I agree this just shows how stupid ass mythology and cult organization can make people brainless heartless evil people
Matt: The Bible advocates slavery. Do you think that's moral?
Caller: Well.. um.. you know. Idk
I’m almost embarrassed for Calvin 😂
"Yes, technically the words 'you can own people and beat them' DO appear in the Bible. But I think it's _implied_ that, when you beat them...you should do it respectfully."
This was done by the book
Bravo, Matt & Don
Hell I bet if they let Calvin talk for 30 minutes uniterupted in had 5 minutes to rebuked they would destroy this stupid fucking cultists
Thanks for what you people are doing.
This is what I like about Matt. He consistently places admittedly immoral godbots on the defensive. and they lose every time.
I primarily love Matt for interesting arguments about nerdy philosophical mechanics, but I do have to admit : occasionally listening to him completely destroy a poor soul that has clearly never thought too deeply about any of this before, it's a guilty pleasure.
Boy, did that poor guy make a fool of himself. Apologizing not only for slavery but the whole shebang. Ouch :-)
“I didn’t mean to say that I’m Christian. What I meant to say was that I’m a follower of Christ.”
The _Bible-believing_ kind of Christian.
So...idk if he didn't mean that part too.
I'd have bet the "following" involved reading.
But then he kept talking. He hasn't read it either.
But I'll bet it involves going to a building with a "t" on it.
When you don’t have a balls to admit in a argument switch the argument to argue the argument.
Or say that the person’s approach is what they are disagreeing with it’s a wtf does that mean 😭
"What happened to good grammar.." Yes Calvin, what happened to good grammar?
"It says that but you're not saying it the right way"
You're right... he's not saying it the "right' way that allows you to compartmentalize and rationalize how repugnant it is...
He mentioned the cussing because... "what happened to good grammar?"? I'm not a native English speaker so perhaps I misheard, but if I didn't... what the fuck?
Nosfrat Tirek
Calvin loves to talk about things he knows nothing about. He calls it ‘having an opinion’.
Nope you didn't mishear. Dude clearly never read the bible and probably never knew about the passages Matt brought up. At that point he was just grasping at straws to maintain his cognitive dissonance.
No, it doesn't make any sense.
I was thinking the exact same thing and I'm a life long English speaker. lol
Calvin is incredibly ignorant, he just "thinks" he's intelligent, like most religious people.
Honestly, it's the one thing in the call I'd give him a pass for. He was clearly flustered and probably meant to say something along the lines of "what happened to civility?" or "what happened to good manners?" but just couldn't articulate it in the moment. Based on Matt's response to him, I'd say he was of a similar opinion.
Calvin needs to go on Dancing With the Stars. He has the creationist two step down pat🤪
This kind of ignorance is a choice. He chooses to have a closed mind and refuses logic. I have no patience for these people.
I agree with that Calvin is nothing more then a cultists who doesn't care about what's real and has 0 critical thinking
The abuse to both human and animal in the Bible is ABOMINABLE.
God is right but I will continue with my wrongness....... CLASSIC !!!!!!!!!
I agree it just show how the stupid cling to stupid ass idiotology
Calvin...when you look up "jelly spine" his picture is beside it.
Matt just went nuclear! Love it!
15:15 "And I only mentioned the cussing cuz what happened to good grammar."
Holy shit caller.
there are more denominations of Christianity, than there are sentences in the bible......
...and even more can spawn just because two priests had an argument about what BBQ sauce tastes better.
Verses* and yes, you are right. How does the so called truth have 41,000 variations to it? Total madness. Cant wait for this shit to truly die out.
Guys be truthful. Theres over 43,000 verses in the Bible and @2,000 denominations in Christianity. By besides the point, i want it to end too
Each Christian believes in their own unique god, and their own unique Christianity.
That's what happens when there is no god and no objective source of information.
Embarrassing as hell....
Hell is less embarrassing, at least its self aware
@max marrero how do you know if it's not even been proven real??
He gets pissed off about the cussing and claims it’s bad grammar… And then proceeds to say, “should people have ever did things that they done?”
a classic episode; the silence at the end spoke volumes
I used to be like Calvin, living with a loss of identity and a split personality...then I started thinking for myself.
Me too. Then i left jehovas witnesses.
One of the most dishonest and blinded callers I have ever heard
Damn this is one of the best ones I've seen.
OMG this episode is PURE GOLD wow Matt is awesome!
I love the Bible stories.
There's Popeye, who was swallowed by a great fish then after eating spinach, punched his way out.
Tarzan the Ape Man, who was taken captive, then killed his enemies by bringing the house down.
And best of all, Clark Kent, who was beaten up shut in a tomb, then came out as Superman.
Big, big, big, big, big epic FAIL, Mr. Calvin. So sad. No courage.
To know this guy can vote is scary
This episode should renamed "Butt Hurt Calvin Gets Owned" 🦇💩🤪
Someone get this guy some Tap Shoes, because he was dancing up a storm!
Matt is one of the few men who have aggressively spoken up for women's' equality who's sincerity is believable. Thank you, Mr. Dillahunty.
Michael Marini I’ve never been out with someone who would beat me. Furthermore, if someone ever raised their hand toward me I can guarantee it would only happen once.
Yes 🙌
This caller is completely incapable of being honest and his religion has caused him to sacrifice his own morality for it. I'm so glad humans are slowly but steadily moving away from religious dogma
The world will be a much better place for it
Guys in this comment section, please don’t just insult his intelligence it just makes atheists look immature, and it’s an ad hominem (not that I’m not an atheist as well)
Well spoken.
Insulting his intelligence is not ad hominem when his irrational words prove his stoopidity lol
Oh boy! Drag in evolution, when you're losing the argument.
I wonder if Calvin can sing as well as he can dance. LOL If so, Calvin could be the next American Idol. Unless that's offensive to God somehow.
Thank you for having the comments open :)
When you are too devoted to have your own brain. 😂😂😂😂
No one mentions that the children of slaves, belong to their Master. True evil.
Oh Calvin Calvin Calvin
He is more moral than his God
He realized that, but still feared God because of all he was taught.
I hope he grows a pair and walks away from his immoral God
I'll stay silent for you
I've officially become a AE junkie. It's just too much fun listening to Matt, Tracie, et al lay the smackdown on these fools.
Yikes! This guy fell out of the immoral tree and hit every branch on the way down! 😂
These guys have the patience of saints.
Only there not retarded or none existence
The New Orleans Saints?
@@bsslayer7623 St Bernards :p
When I was first interested in books, I used to enjoy the "make your own adventures" series.
I think that's why I love the Bible so much.
Shout out to you all!! I am so appreciative of this channel, it really helped me get out of the evangelical/Christian cult and helped me learn critical thinking skills that I was never taught as an indoctrinated child. Thanks to all of you!!!
𝗔𝗿𝗴𝘂𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗠𝗼𝗿𝗮𝗹 𝗡𝗶𝗵𝗶𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗺
Premise 1: Atheism rejects gods. Therefore gods are no basis for moral claims.
Premise 2: Atheism rejects all a priori moral transcendentals. (e.g. Dao, Dharma, Divine Logos)
Premise 3: Hume's guillotine refutes all moral claims derived from observable facts.
Premise 4: Death/Entropy negates all moral claims derived from consequences. Soon, no one will care what you did.
Premise 5: There’s nothing ‘wrong’ with changing or losing interest in one’s values. Value judgements are NOT actually moral claims, but mere opinions or preferences.
Premise 6: Whereas no basis for moral claims remain, Moral Nihilism is the only Atheism that is sufficiently rational to reject moral claims.
Conclusion: Moral Nihilism is the only rational outlook for Atheism.
Calvin was in full Neo in the matrix mode dodging those questions
Where the hell did that animal sacrifice come from?? -And he even failed with that.
Don and Matt, you folks are awesome
Don is Matt's " hold my coat guy" while open can of whoop a..
7:30 - Matt: I am experiencing the same problem. I am engaging a couple of Christians and they seem to avoid most questions, the cannot give you a clear moral answer, in trying to protect God and the Bible, they beat around the bush.
This caller is so hard to listen to
The amount of Christian ads targeted on your videos specifically is insane. What the hell is reformation bible college..?
Someone needs to get their little brother he's looking like a fool on TH-cam 😂✌🏿
I believe in God, Popeye, Superman, Spiderman, Rambo, Gal Gadot and Mr Bean.
I just love pretending that I can fly by flapping my arms.
I reckon that if I keep flapping my arms, I will evolve into a bird.
Just gotta keep the faith, man.
Legend has it, the end of the day never came.
Kids calls up and says, "You're not acknowledging my right to my opinion." Yeah, but you called in to The Atheist Experience. You have a right to your opinion, but you better be prepared to defend it.
Wow, this caller needs to re-evaluate his moral views. He gets offended with Matt saying "fuck" but he's totally fine with slavery.
This is your brain on religion.
The scary part is that, these kind of people easily could be your neighbours.
You know the ones after they turn into a serial killers are described by the neighbours as a really nice, calm and patient fellas. We did know he was capable of all these horrible thing.
Bravo Matt!!!!
About the slavery thing, in my opinion, the Leviticus verses are more damning than the Exodus verses because they specifically say that you can have slaves.
Leviticus 25:44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
So basically, buy your slaves from the heathen around you. Which means that you may have slaves. There's no other way to read it. But then it goes on to say that they're your property. In other places in the Bible it makes clear that you can beat them almost to death and that you can have sex with them. That's not an indentured servant, that's nothing other than a slave in the only sense of the word. A person that's your property. The one time that the Bible doesn't mince words and is really clear about its meaning and it's slavery.
Here's the rest of the slavery verses in Leviticus.
25:45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
25:46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.
And Christians will cherry pick and claim that it's all about indentured servitude.
Or just completely ignore these verses entirely. Honestly there is so much terrible shit in the Bible, just look at Numbers 31. Specifically, look at verses 17 and 18:
"Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
Basically murder all the male children and then take the virgins to rape. I don't see that being preached in church.
The only problem with that is the context. Leviticus is jewish law and is ignored my most Christians for being absurd and restrictive, whereas the Exodus line comes directly from god right after the ten commandments.
@@blanks552 "ignored my most Christians for being absurd and restrictive" How does that make any sense at all? Either way it's cherry picking!
@@cwolf208 Well yes, I agree, but it doesn't make sense for us to criticize someone for something they don't actually believe, even if they should. That comes close to Jordan Peterson's "all athiests should be moral nihilists" crap
lots of mouth breathing with this one
He follows without question and pick and choose what to believe in.
Interviewing Calvin was like getting all teeth pulled out ever so slow. Seem like Calvin failed to make the first cut of who Wants to be a Millionaire.
Calvin...... a mind is a terrible thing to waste
~ Perhaps an I.Q. test might keep some of these people off the air? There have got to be people with brains out there. Oops, we're talking about theists. Cheers, DAVEDJ ~
I don't think it is lack of intelligence, as much as it is Christian inculcation and indoctrination. They are also taught reasoning and questioning are anathema to faith. Faith is king and trumps all reasoning and evidence. It is really hard for them to get past that, so they fumble for a response, because they have nothing strong and valid to stand upon. It's so easy to fall back on Bible, Jesus, and faith, because therein lies safety for them.
Killing your innocent son to satisfy your sense of justice is immoral.
Planning a murder is just as bad as firing the gun.
Human or animal sacrifices are disgusting.
15:00; "...i don't mind answering your question..."
actually, he does mind, as he never answers any question asked of him...