Punch-Out!! & Doc Louis Wii - Strongest Punch!!
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- Attacks Ranked by Strength.
The large HP numbers are from Title Defense and when Doc is angry. Contender punch damage is in parenthesis, Doc Louis's is from when he isn't angry. List of the information is at the end. - เกม
Doc Louis is able to dish out insane damage relative to the amount of windup he does, and he's been retured and out of shape for years.
Imagine what he was like in his PRIME.
"I INVENTED THE STAR PUNCH!!"
I say he was like mike Tyson in his haydays
One game concept I'd love is a Punch-Out game where the story mode starts with you playing with Doc Louis back when he was a boxer, then the halfway/big progression point could be him retiring and the 2nd half being Little Mac boxing. I like the idea personally, because it also allows for additional fighters AND some additional backstory.
@@saubergt2390 Hi Sauber, didn't know you were a punch out fan too
@@Lapras34 Yeah, my dad used to play Punch-Out on the NES a lot as a kid, and so my interest in the series came from him. I don't have a Wii, but I do emulate Punch-Out for NES on the occasion.
Can we just take a second and admire two things:
1. RELEASE THE BOGUS
2. Glass Joe, of all people, does 2x and 3x the amount of damage that Mac does in a single punch.
Also, this taught me that jabs and body blows don't have different damage values
He is also small as well so because of his size he won’t be as strong despite his workout regimen these guys are 2x-3x his size
I could have SWORN Von kaiser takes extra damage from hooks. Oh well
it makes sense, the only reason you would use one or the other between a jab or body blow is your opponent's guard- it's not like either costs more than the other or something
@TrulyGrassy thats what the stats said for Little Mac
There's also cases where Glass Joe can punch harder than Bald Bull, and that guy is beyond ripped. Crazy.
Doc Louis does Shoryuken, pretty impressive for his age & weight.
He invented the Star Punch!
And that's just a single star punch. Imagine being in his prime and pulling off a three star punch.
@@AkaiAzul nah , doc only needs one star since that's all he need little mac need 3 since ..... yeah . I'm tired 😫
And that's only a fraction of his strength
Not street fighter
note to the audience about TD Aran Ryan's "Last Stand Rope", it always does a percentage of your CURRENT health and can never KO you (though I imagine you could get something strange to happen if you hacked in an absurdly low value)
It's speculated that this is just done because they didn't want to have to code what'd happen if both fighters are downed at the same time.
That'd be pretty interesting: Mac and Aran are both down.
In super punch out SNES, it is simply a normal count that continues and does not stop until both get up, if one gets up before the other the count will continue
And at #0...
"Dodge this!"
*_*sends Mac to the shadow realm_**
0:53
OF course Aran Ryan has multiple moves ranked #77 which each do 17 HP of damage. Of course.
Oh that is actually good attention to detail, holy...
Interesting to see mac has both the weakest but also one of the strongest punches in the game.
The kid slips in, throws some weak ass punches, dodges nearly every shot and takes em down right when they least expect it.
"Blitzkrieg Uppercut" is more of a Haymaker than a real uppercut
Yeah, what kind of uppercut goes downwards?
@@cameronballz6154 downercut
@@cameronballz6154 the australian one!
@@migueeeelet so Von Kaiser is actually from Australia and not Germany?
It is nice to see how the 3 star punch is very at the top because It feels so great to do one of those, as you basically do one punch that is equally as damaging as all the ones the oponents throw at you all the time.
Also the last punch of title defense sandman in the final attack of his rage phase actually is an instant K.O
Probably just so you don't get out of stamina and just have a stare contest with him for all the round.
Also why so many moves do decimal amounts of damage?
A retired Doc Louis can still keep up with the strongest fighters in the main game, imagine what a prime Louis could do.
Accidentally kill Mac
Damn doc Lois wasnt kidding about being former heavyweight champ
Everybody gangsta 'till Von Kaiser gets an instakill punch.
AAAAAAAAAAATTAAAAACKKKAAA
It's widely speculated that Von Kaiser was one of the best in his prime, so it makes sense that he'd have some tricks left.
you know you're in for a bad time for title defense when freaking von kaiser gets an instakill punch
What i hear : "AAAAAAAAAAALTACKAAAAAAAAA
Release the BLITZKRIEG!
I see a lot of ppl waffling about sandman not having a instant ko people forget those moves that 2 shot ya he follows up with 13 more in rapid succession meaning he can blitz through your health 7 times over :)
Sandman never had a KO punch in Mike Tysons punch Out either, his dreamland express did 30 damage each.
Don't know if this was included or not beforehand, but TD Mr. Sandman has a single attack that's an instant KD- the very final attack of his rage phase before he becomes exhausted entirely.
Oh thats true probably just so you don't get out of stamina and just have a stare contest with him for all the round.
Tho that still feels bad because that means you losed about half of the time of the round, It happened to me.
Ah yeah, I missed that one. Thanks for letting me know.
@@masterblaster38 Doesn't TD Sandman eventually recover if you don't punch him at all when he gets exhausted? Not that anyone would let him.
@@DoktorVicTim he does yeah
After a LONG while but yeah he actually does, but the round is mostly over by the time he recovers he needs to start using the Rush like in the first few sec of the match to actually recover.
It is interesting how Mr. Sandman probably has one of the most consistent DPS while only a few have 1 shot moves such as Von Kaiser out of all people. While Luis is like starting small then gets progressivly painful
It suprises me though, that alot of these punches deal decimal amounts of damage.
Yeah me too. Mac's health isn't actually 100, it's 99.9
Aran Ryan having 3 of the 4 rank 77 strength punches is fitting. Especially when it’s 17 damage
4:40 that’s an overhand, not an uppercut
That is the complete opposite of an uppercut
Are we all going to ignore the fact that bald bull’s right jab is weaker than glass joe’s left jab?
Glass joe just was holding back by using less than 1% of his true power
Virgin "Mommi..." vs Chad "AAAAAAAAAAAAAATTACKU"
Lol
The fact that Von Kaiser is in minor circut but has an attack where he can knock down little mac with one single hit is pretty interesting, why is he ranked so low, I would love to see (if a new punch out game would be released) that von Kaiser would be ranked higher, a military boxer is ranked lower than a dancing guy? That is somehow weird, I mean yeah, Punch out is not very realistic, but I am a Von Kaiser fan and I want him to get more credit for what he can do
It's likely that it's a combination of PTSD from getting beaten by his students and that he's the oldest boxer in the game, well past his prime. His TD version is likely more akin to what he was like in his prime.
Me too, Von Kaiser is my favourite boxer. Also, in the Wii version he has the best stadistics of the Minor Circuit (the major number of won combats and the minor number of lost combats).
Disco kid is the only fighter other than glass joe/gabby jay to have a losing record. Yet he is higher than Von Kaiser.
@@pvtblu1613 yeah, I also thought, that when you look at the speed and damage from the attacks, Von Kaiser is better than disco kid
Yeah, I'm unsure how Disco Kid ever got higher than him. Especially since both of his fights are comically easy and you literally cannot help but get stars off of him
Something about the way they animated Doc makes it feel like his punches would far and away be the most painful to get hit by
The big impact noise when he punches you makes them seem even more dangerous.
Ok so Title Defense Bald Bull practiced getting hit by a Bull Charge right? Little Mac’s Star Punch is slightly stronger than a Bull Charge or 18HP worth of damage. And that’s what it takes to knock TD Bald Bull down. Here’s the crazy part. At 107lbs, Little Mac has a punch that’s equal to 3 bull charges (or his 3 star punch doing 60 damage which is more than tripple) that a 6’5” (196 cm) and 284 lbs (or 129 kg) boxer (or Sandman) cannot do. That is insane 😆. I love this series!
Why did you do this math?
Thank you
@@theh2016 Because I’m a nerd lol
I don’t understand how Mac is 107LB he doesn’t look like 107lb he looks like at least 120lb to me
I love how Von Kaiser one hit is called uppercut but it's totally not near a uppercut lmao
It’s an overhead swing
I'm a little surprised most of DK's moves ended up kinda in the middle range. But, I haven't personally played this Punch-Out (just watched a lot of videos, hehe), so I didn't really know what to expect. I was also surprised (and very entertained) to find out that Doc Louis can do in a reasonably normal-looking punch what Bald Bull and Von Kaiser need to charge from the other end of the ring to do. Fear Doc Louis! 😎
The thing that makes donkey kong scary isn't his strength, it's that he's able to burst out a bunch of unpredictable attacks at once, though after you know how to get stars off him and his 1 hit ko spot then he gets pretty easy
Donkey Kong is more a game of learning his insane pattern recognition. Normally when you're fighting him it's only in the section of the game after Title Defense where you're fighting until you lose three times, meaning you're not exactly free to just figure him out.
And his taunting patterns, attempting to just figure out what he's doing is a pickle. As compensation he doesn't exactly do that much damage, but he can easily just string hits into each other.
He definitely looks like a unique opponent, even for the Punch-Out series. Loving the input from people who play this game, I'm a bit of a rusty old MTPO player who never had a Wii. If I had one though, this game would definitely be in my library.
Damn Doc Louis really has the damage of a Heavy Weight Champ. You can see his true strength when he throws the Punch to get a Star. Because all the others of his punches (excluding the star punch) he throws with a delay so that you learn to dodge. That one he throws without warning for you to get hit for his Star. He goes easy on you. I just wished that when you make him angry in that mode that he would ditch most of his wind ups. ^^
"Oooh-No!" Still one of my favorite variations of Doc missing his star opportunity.
not only that, its just 1 star
Wait, why is the Blitzkrieg Uppercut called an uppercut? He's throwing an overhand
OMG
Aran Ryan's punches are ranked 77
the devs must have made a ranking before this if this wasn’t a coincidence
Anyone else despise glass joes delayed uppercut
Bro Kaiser is so damn awesome! He needs to be ranked higher if he's put in another punch out game. (If there will be any..)
Glass Joe would probably be a great boxer if he didn't live in a world where shit like gloves on a rope and literal magic is allowed in the ring. He can knock Little Mac down in just ten jabs, after all.
this is why they let him (and Mac, eventually) use headgear.
@@AndrewBlechinger Super macho man, Sandman and Bald Bull are too large for Mac. Popinski is allowed to drink something else than water during break time. King Hippo is allowed to wear defensive stuff like metal crown and manhole cover. Bear hugger is allowed to bring his pet squirrel into the ring. Flamenco and Disco kid are allowed to use their luxury goods during fighting. And worst of all, Aran Ryan does anything but fighting with legal boxing technique! Comparing to these guys, Joe is such a nice person.
Mr. Sandman, are you kidding me?! Bald Bull beat you again like in the NES version rankings, I'll give you. Super Macho Man beat you again, okie. But instead of King Hippo and Mike Tyson from the NES version...here you got beat by Little Mac, his trainer Doc...and Von Kaiser??!! SERIOUSLY??!! *FRIGGIN' VON KAISER??!!* 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
(and here I thought Glass Joe being somewhat stronger than Great Tiger in the NES version was embarrassing for the latter...)
Here's a list of every single fighters worst and best punch:
Little Mac: Lowest = Normal Punch, 3HP, Highest = 3 Star Punch, 81HP/60HP.
Glass Joe: Lowest = Left and Right Jab/Liberte, 10/14.5HP, Highest = Delayed Right Uppercut, 19HP.
Von Kaiser: Lowest = Left Jab, 11.2/17HP, Highest = Blitzkrieg, 100+HP.
Disco Kid: Lowest = 3rd Punch Disco Flurry, 5.4HP, Highest = Disco Flurry (complete) 33.4HP.
King Hippo: Lowest = Jab, 17HP, Highest = Hippo Hug, 40HP.
Piston Hondo: Lowest = Rush 4th Landed Punch, 8.3 HP, Highest = Rush 1st Landed Punch, 33HP.
Bear Hugger: Lowest = Overhead Right, 17/19HP, Highest = Bear Hug/Catch and Release, 50HP.
Great Tiger: Lowest = Left Jab, 15HP, Highest = Magic Rush, 40HP.
Don Flamenco: Lowest = Rose Flurry 4th Hit, 9HP, Highest = Rose Flurry 1st Hit, 30/36HP.
Aran Ryan: Lowest = Leaping Left Hook, 15/1HP, Highest = Last Stand, 33% More Damage, 33.3HP.
Soda Popinski: Lowest = Sidestep Hooks, 17/17.5HP, Highest = Right/Left/Mad Uppercuts, 22/25.3HP.
Bald Bull: Lowest = Rolling Jabs, 12/13HP, Highest = Bull Charge, 100+HP.
Super Macho Man: Lowest = Right Hook, 20HP, Highest = Triple Spin Punch, 50/100+HP.
Mr. Sandman: Lowest = Counter Right Hook, 21HP, Highest = Dreamland 1st 2 Punches, 33.5/55HP.
Donkey Kong: Lowest = Double Slam, 17HP, Highest = Close/Spread Flying Pound, 33.4HP.
Doc Louis: Lowest = Star Left Jab, 14.3/16.7HP, Highest = Star Punch, 100+HP.
Holy Crap, that took 35 mins to make, I did no copy and paste, it took forever.
Hit like so he will see it.
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Wow nice. Although I could've just posted the file I have that lists everything, hehe. Nice effort though. It's such a good game that it deserves it.
@@philive1681 yup, just wanted to tell people who can’t open files like on certain devices
This is easily one of the most interesting videos I've seen about this game
Thank you for Releasing The BOGUS❤️🙏🏼✊🏼😆
Alright everyone. Here is the list of each character's strongest attacks (In Order)
13. Glass Joe - 19HP (Delayed Right Uppercut)
12. Soda Popinski - 25.3HP (Soda's Uppercuts)
11. Piston Hondo - 33HP (1st Rush Hit)
10. Aran Ryan - 33.3HP (Last Rope Stand)
9. Disco Kid - 33.4HP (Disco Flurry)
9/8. DK - 33.4HP (Flying Double Pound)
7. Don Flamenco - 36HP (1st Rose Flurry Hit)
6. King Hippo - 40HP (Hippo Smash/Hug)
6/5. Great Tiger - 40HP (Magic Rush)
4. Bear Hugger - 50HP (Bear Hug)
3. Mr Sandman - 55HP (Dreamland Express)
2. Little Mac - 60HP (3 Star Punch)
1. Von Kaiser - 100HP (Swinging Overhead)
1. Super Macho Man - 100HP (Super Spin Punch)
1. Doc Louis - 100HP (Doc's Star Punch)
1. Bald Bull - 100HP (Bull Rush)
Little mac’s strongest is 3 star punch in contender mode at 81, no?
Extra.
1 Mr.sandman the last uppercut 100HP
1 giga mac 3 star punch 100HP
Doc does as much damage with his jabs that other fighters deal with hooks and uppercuts, even matching Aran Ryan's flail. That is one beastly old man, though not the strongest I've seen.
Outstanding. Just an outstanding chart.
Agreed. Imagine how long it took just to make this.
The fact that Glass Joe doesn’t have the weakest attack, and isn’t even in the Top 5 weakest attacks (if you include Little Mac) is so weird to think about
4:40 Blitzkrieg Uppercut? That looks like a spinning overhead.
I think the actual name is "Kaiser Wave/Kaiser Bomb"
@@Oscarus4250 I thought it had no official name and that fans called it the ‘von Kaiser Wave’.
Take the damage into consideration of how hard these punches would actually hit a person
Bro blitzkrieg must hit REALLY freaking hard if it can knock mac down in one hit
It's cool that Mac actually has the strongest punch in the game that isnt a one hit kill
So this makes me wonder: If Kaiser, Doc, Super Macho Man and Bald Bull have the strongest punches, how they; except for Doc of course, would lose to Mr. Sandman, I’ll never know.
Dreamland Express
In real boxing and other martial arts, power doesn't mean squat unless you have tecnique, speed, and precision in that order. Mr. Sandman is the most compentent boxer of all the others and has likely honed his skills and punches to perfection along with other fundamentals nessesary in boxing to become the champ.
Also yes highest amount of damage in one punch is good and all but look closely. Mr. Sandman is consistent with his damage unlike most meaning he has next to no need for a single punch wipe out.
Because punching hard isn't the only thing you need to be a good boxer
"Release the bogus"
Is no one gonna comment that many of Aran Ryan's attacks are on the 77th place?
0:11 bruh, the last punch in each combo does the least damage?
The last one that lands. If you dodge the first punch and then get hit by the 2nd, it still does the max damage for that punch, it scales down as you get hit. It's not like that with Sandman though, his Dreamland Express punches do fixed damage for each punch.
@@philive1681 Like any fighting games that decreases every time you combo someone
I'm surprised at how much damage Glass Joe manage to deal.
Funny how Mr.Sandman is basically the final boss of the game, but doesn't have an insta-ko move.
Just to show he needs no trick to score.
Doc Louis literally did a star punch... AND STILL DID MORE DAMAGE THAN LITTLE MACS 3 STAR PUNCH
Makes sense he did invent the star punch
let it be known that doc louis' uppercuts are more powerful than full-on headbutts
I’m curious, how do you find these damage values? Do you use a mod to show character hp? Or how does this work
I looked at the ram values in the game. Search and find the ones for health and see how much it changes when you get hit.
2:09 2:42 doc can do more damage then sandman. TITLE DEFENSE sandman and doc does it with a normal move. AND doc can knock down a full health little mac with one move but sandman can't, EVEN IN TITLE DEFENSE
edit: and mac's 3 star punch only does 60HP when doc's SINGLE star punch does 100HP . like doc is strong
Anything surprise you? Bald Bull really has to charge that jab up to do damage. I also though DK would have a punch higher up.
What's crazy to me is how Mac's Contender star punch does more dmg than TD.
@@OverSteam The opponents been training too ya know. Buffed up their defenses ;)
@@erintheangry Yeah, they saw it before and trained for it.
This is great they should add all of this information to the Punch-Out wiki
"You like punch out? Name every punch then."
Too far 💀
This is pretty interesting. What's Mac's exact HP value, as well as those of the other boxers?
100
"Blitzkrieg Uppercut" he's punching downward that's quite literally the opposite of an uppercut
BRO literally Doc Louis has the fastest and strongest attack in the game
5:00 YES
The super spin punch even gets a special animation
5:01 RELEASE THE BOGUS
The worst punch has to be the hologram's attacks
How much damage does Big Mac's attacks
Doc Louis' star punch does more dmg than Mac's 3 star punch lol.
I mean, he is the person who taught him the star punch. Doc was known as a fierce boxer before little mac. I don’t think he was a world champion, but he was at one point a champion and retired his career taking very few losses.
@@Unchainedful Just like Mac with 3 losses.
@@Unchainedful Doc Louis was in fact... the Grand Champion... which we can assume is higher than world champion... but who knows how WVBA worked back in 70s...
but yeah Doc Louis could just spam insta KD, unblockable punches.... thats why all Mac's opponent are scared when he uses star punches...
Vietnam memories huh
@@raulca2512 Oh damn. I forgot the fact that the opponents were scared of his Star Punch.
He didn't just teach the move to Little Mac. Quoting Doc Louis when he knocks Mac's lights out.
"I INVENTED the Star Punch!"
1:11 bear hugger’s left hook syncs with the music
Von Kaiser having an instant kill will never not be funny to me
Holy shit my man Von Kaiser
Can’t wait for update and all little mac updates! Very good job my friend! Love this stuff will be subscribed!
Pablo Helenski: flying kick, uppercut qnd headbutts snd elbow strikes
The animations for all the attacks are so good, I especially love SMM's spinning uppercuts and Von Kaiser instant KO punch.
"I invented the star punch". *fucking blows mac up with a 1 star punch*
Everybody gangsta until von kaiser and super macho man and doc louis and bald bulls 100 hp attacks
every special attack ranked by damage
disco kid: disco flurry (3rd hit) 5.4hp
piston hondo: hondo rush (4th hit) 8.3hp
don flamenco: rose flurry (4th hit) 9hp
glass joe: tricky jab 14.5hp
glass joe: liberte 14.5hp
glass joe: vive la france 15.2hp
little mac: 1 star punch 18hp
aran ryan: rope glove (per hit) 20hp
soda popinski: soda uppercut rush (per hit) 25.3hp
piston hondo: hondo rush (1st hit) 33hp
aran ryan: last stand rope 33.3hp
disco kid: disco flurry (complete) 33.4hp
great tiger: spin attack 33.4hp
great tiger: tiger punch (per hit) 33.4hp
donkey kong: flying double pound 33.4hp
mr. sandman: ultimate dreamland express (per hit) 33.5hp
mr. sandman: dreamland express (3rd hit) 33.5hp
don flamenco: rose flurry (1st hit) 36hp
little mac: 2 star punch 39hp
king hippo: hippo smash 40hp
king hippo: hippo hug 40hp
great tiger: magic rush (contender) 40hp
bear hugger: bear hug 50hp
bear hugger: catch and release 50hp
super macho man: spin punch 50hp
mr. sandman: dreamland express (first 2 punches) 55hp
little mac: 3 star punch 60hp
doc louis: star punch 100hp
von kaiser: kaiser wave 100hp
bald bull: bull charge 100hp
super macho man: super spin punch 100hp
mr. sandman: ultimate dreamland express (last hit) 100hp
Doc only needing one star to do nearly twice the damage as Mac with half the windup time is such a good nod to his past as the champ
3:55 you spelled release the beast really weird.
Von Kaiser is truly one of the greatest.
The numbers don't lie.
Fun fact looks like all fingter is only have 2 parts of name not the full name
So Mac's 3-star punish is the strongest non-instant KO in the game.
Doesn’t bear hugger have a move call the « windmill attack » or something where each hit deals 50 damage (though it is unused so I can understand why it isn’t in this video)
How do you access it?
@@philive1681 idk but I found it from this video at 3:54 th-cam.com/video/tMgUFjdmeos/w-d-xo.html
@@philive1681 if it's what i'm thinking of you have to hack the game and force him to use it - it's an unused attack so it's not in any regular pattern.
So little mac is the weakest? Never knew.
It's disturbing to me glass Joe has several attacks stronger than bald bull
So is Mac just that low of hp and damage or is everyone a tank
You forgot the last uppercut of Mr Sandman's berseek/rage mode (It one shots to prevent both Little Mac and Mr sandman from beign tired)
Anyone else despise glass joes delayed uppercut
Insane how sandman doesn't have an insta kill attack
Imagine having an attack with lower damage than glass joe
*laughs at bald bull*
*dies 10 seconds later
The fact that glass joe's punches are higger in the list than more than you would expect scares me
Prime Kaiser was definitely a monster
I like how it just ends with RELEASE THE BOGUS
so were just gonna ignore the fact von kaiser literally is the strongest in the minor circuit yet fighting him after glass joe
This was great.
No Little Mac's were hurt during the filming of this video
Little Mac is just getting destroyed in this video
One question, the star blow always does the same damage or it depends on the opponent, because it can't be that glass joe can withstand the same as mr.sandman
For Punch Out Wii, it does the same damage, but the fighters have different HP.
@@philive1681 how to know how much hp each opponent has?
Could you pass me the page or something?
@@newnixer3775 I looked at the ram values to find all the info. But there is an image in the PunchOut discord that has the info. Search for 'HP' and it's one of the first results.
@@philive1681 Please send me a link because I couldn't find anything.
I've been waiting for this vid for awhile.
why is von kaiser's spin attack called an uppercut?
class joe is stronger than bald bull ?
Release The Bogus 5:00
of course aran ryan takes up spot 77, and then spot 35 (7x5)
not gonna lie, I thought the measurements were in Horsepower, not Hit Points
If he does fastest punch speed for punch out wii, my prediction is mr sandmans wink punches