Breakdown & AA Recovery - 3 Lines Fault -Smart Fortwo Passion 451 84 BHP Turbo 2008
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- We are back with the 3 lines transmission fault, this time it caused total failure of the car requiring AA recovery.
Many thanks to the AA engineer for offering outstanding service today.
Previously it had:
Full removal of wiring loom from transmission module to clutch actuator & gear motor - continuity tested ok.
Replacement clutch actuator.
Clean poor connection between engine earth strap and engine.
Wrap wiring loom near battery to resolve chaffing of loom against sharp body edges.
Previous fault codes:
N15/6 Sprintshift control module (2 DTCs)
P1800 Implausible transmission data.
P2802 Signals from incremental sensor of component 'M17 (Gear motor)' are implausible.
N47-5 (ESP control unit) (1 DTC)
Fault in CAN communication with control module 'N15/6 (Sprint shift control module)'.
Fault code today:
P1801 Transmission adaptation - increment sensor in transmission unit faulty.
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Thank you for suffering for all of us 451 owners. After you take a break, and if you're not too angry with the car, I'm looking forward to following your next repair.
Deep breaths. You need an award for your patience and dedication.
Hey, Chin up its great that you keep facing into this. I have followed as I have a similar issue. Last job I cleaned up all the earth points and no fault for ....... well just shy of 300 miles but it then got to into a kangaroo start thing felt OK then for a few miles until a roundabout where it just didn't pick a gear and I end up sat across fast moving traffic. Good luck hope you have hit on the issue. I am fitting a new actuator this weekend.
Sorry to hear this .... I have one sorta like that too. Spent way too much for a shop to repair mine after it was sitting for months; drove it about 3 months and again, it is dead. Not a horrid deal but I have to tow it 2 1/2 hours to the only shop that works on these. I am seriously considering selling it after the next repair is completed - to someone closer to MB shop. But I do enjoy this silly little car!
Sorry im a few days late seeing your video. If your still having problems getting it to go into reverse try this. start the car foot on break, take it from park to drive, count to 3, then go from drive to reverse. see if that works.
I dont know why, but my lil car makes me do this about every 3-4 weeks. lol
But, that is how ive learned to deal with it. The shop says there is nothing wrong with it... I just think my little smart car likes to tick me off when im in a hurry sometimes. lol
Hope it helps you out, if not, maybe it will help someone down the road.
Keep driving smart !
How are things going. The NYC weather is begining to get warmer so I will be getting after some bits of maintenance on my 451. Just checking in in you as your videos are very informative. So thank you for them. Stay joyful👍
Gone are the days of chasing problems until you finally see the break in the spring on the ballast resistor.
Speaking of resistors . . . Easiest way to clear codes.
Disconnect positive then negative and place a cheap resistor between them for half an hour . . . Most times this will clear all the codes and then you can step through retraining the car
Today I had this same problem in Halfords car park when I went to buy wiper blades for it.
Exactly how you described it it happened. I was just about able to bring it home.
I'm thinking to myself if I should drop a Honda 1.6 out of a crx (non VTEC) in it or not.
Too many electronics will eventually turn into a Jinn with a honda I KNOW this will never happen again, plus it's already a130 bhp and I have EVERYTHING.
It should go like the brabus after tuning, but without spending an additional £1k+ for mapping the engine and the gearbox plus the cost of fixing this jinn.
Summer is here and if I do, guys will make a video on how to.
Ja, das ist deutsche Ingenieurskunst 😞. Es tut mir wirklich sehr leid, das du solche Probleme mit deinem Smart hast! Ich hoffe sehr, das du eine Lösung findest .
Gruß Jürgen
I had this very same issue with my 2008 smart. I've been towed from the middle of the street multiple times. I replaced the clutch actuator everything was working then, a week later this happened to me, i put 3 new clutch's then the same problems back-to-back. I worked on this for about 6 months buying and replacing parts until I had to clean and lubricate the original clutch. It's been working for 2 years now.
I have a 2008 451,bought new 75k miles now. Had it stuck in park once, towed. Biggest problem was motor mounts. They fail and the motor jumps about and it killed the main battery cable, the exhaust flex coupling and who knows what else. Have replaced the starter, the alternator, front springs, motor mounts, exhaust, battery cable and recently the brake lines that rusted thru where they are clamped to the chassis. The best failure was the park cable that had the end fail and fell off the lever. At least it came off taking it out of park. Annoying little things to be sure and here in the states no one wants to work on them cept the MB dealer. $$$.. A rebirth for these cars has come from drag racers that buy them to use as golf carts. They fit inside their trailers and they use them to tow the cars round the pits, then off the motel. Still selling for 1/2 the original price.
You mean your engine jump out from the subframe due to 3 engine mounts?😮 That’s really incredible!
Oh man that's suffering! No doubt once truly sorted that car will be your most prized possession. I also think, with these cars now beginning to show their age, owners with less skill and patience will be keeping the scrap dealers busy. Rest up, clear your mind, and give us another fab vid.
That's hardship, I have the same model and expect this type of trouble sooner or later. On the plus side I think you have finally nailed the problem. The removal of the motor is apparently easy (airbox out and four torque bolts). I would be tempted to disassemble the motor, as it could be as simple as worn brushes. Best of luck with it, its hard to keep the faith when it keeps giving trouble, but I think you are almost there.
Very unfair of the Smart, I thought you'd covered everything the work you've done. Good luck, you deserve some.
Excellent news! More videos from the best Smart car channel out there!!! 😅
Ok...joking but true nonetheless! Bugger mate...you really are going through hell with her... she's not a cheap date for sure
I'm watching every video many times over. Last summer I stripped mine down to a bare shell, easily and confidently thanks to your earlier videos.
This year when this infernal rain ceases and spring is sprung I intend to do some more preventive maintenance in the vain hope I never encounter problems such as yours.
Things to check or change...reluctor discs, motor mount, startenator bushing, gear selector and actuator.
So please continue your superb videos... eventually you'll have changed everything and all will be right with the world! 😂😂❤
But we still hold on to them. Mine got locked in reverse gear last year, 2 tow trucks as they needed dollies. Turns out a sensor in the light cluster somehow locks the rear gearbox. Hurrah for the rac and aa👍
Best of luck hope you get sorted as soon as possible
Sorry mate
the early models had these type of problems that's why I avoided them until the 2012-2014 451
it must be frustrating hopefully it doesn't give you any more headaches
Is a wonder you didn’t douse it in petrol at the station and set it alight. My roadster making a weird howl at low revs, so obviously I’m keeping her lit 😊 best of luck with the next fix
I owned Smart450 many years ago. One day, I drove it with my wife on the high way. Then it suddenly lost the power, I stopped it on the turnout!😂 I’m so nervous and hate this Smart! 🎉
I'm sorry, I hope you can sort things out soon. I repaired my Sandero, which I encountered the same problem with, 100 km ago. But now I'm worried about it recurring.
I had this on mine, the auto gear selector was the problem. If you fit it yourself dont forget it need to be trained to your gearbox.
at first I thought it needed an AA battery..you should have done what I did, bought the EV version of this car. I love mine!
Bugger! ... hope you get it sorted sooner rather than later .... nothing worse than an undiagnosed fault
Sorry mate. Wish I could help !
Gutted for you 😢
Mine is a 2009 Cabrio. Parts replaced when mine died: TCM, SAM, Gear shifter, Gear Actuator, and Clock Spring under the steering wheel. Turned out to be a chaffed wire harness in the steering column. I literally paid for the car twice. Once to buy it and once again, the same amount, to fix it. Fingers crossed, it has been 8k miles without problems. Let’s be honest… The car was the idea of a Swiss fashion watch maker; designed by Mercedes; and built in France with a Mitsubishi motor… What could possibly go wrong?🙄
Can I ask exactly where the wiring was chaffed on the steering column? There is a wad of self adhesive felt around the sharp edges of the column on mine where the loom passes over it. I did look at that.
It was a loom that ran either next to or on top of the steering column. My mechanic said that he thought that it was the steering column itself that had worn through the loom.
I have a picture of the loom, but I seem to. It be able to attach it to my reply…
@@darrenfox5883 You can email it to me at info@autoknight.co.uk if that’s ok!
Thank you! That is fine.
Good luck ! :)
When mine did that I just disconnected battery neg lead it was ok 👍🏻
Am I the only one to notice that you left your coffee on the roof at the beginning?
Haha! It annoys me too that it was there. Although the car wasn’t going anywhere, it’s poor continuity and I don’t possess the technology to edit it out 🤦♂️🤣
@@autoknight747 no, it's fun!
I'm considering a Smart Fortwo to play with so I'm watching as many repair videos as I can to get a feel for how these things work. Yours are very informative. Thanks!
Should have got the bigger smart 2004 /06 454 much less problems
I’ve always liked those actually but very old now and most have been to the moon and back in terms of mileage. If I ever found a mint 1 owner car then I’d be tempted. Ideally burnt orange panels on silver.
@@autoknight747 I have two, a black brabus got it 3 years ago 24000 miles under £3000, second one is 1.1 the colour you want, 110000 miles goes likes rocket, No Rust. Tenth owner £750, passed last mot no advisories. Love both
I think it's time to say goodbye to this car. You tried but it didn't work.
I am not ready to give up yet.
@@autoknight747 haha good luck
this car is a bit of a driving bomb. When it drives, it's fine, but when something goes wrong, it's a disaster
So annoying, had two of these 451’s one blew its engine and the other just had little niggly faults all the time we had it, sold and got a mini in the end