The Insane And Disturbing Dragon Age "Iceberg" Explained
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- Dragon Age iceberg conspiracy theories explained in 4 tiers of the most interesting, shocking, disturbing, and strange unknown game theories for the Bioware Game Studios game series of Dragon AGe, which includes Dragon Age Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, and Dragon Age 4 or Dragon Age Dreadwolf references, along with Mass Effect and Bioware game shoutouts. This video is a deep dive into gaming conspiracy theories and gaming iceberg and conspiracy iceberg gaming theories. Game theories.
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0:00 Introduction
1:04 Tier 1 - Thedas
26:07 Tier 2 - The Fade
47:00 Tier 3 - The Void
1:12:16 Tier 4 - Dreams
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Great video me truly outstanding work you've outdone yourself
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@@FranklyGaming The thing about andreaste and the maker its that NO oter Gods in dragon age are really gods.
The old gods are just great old dragons, the elven gods are just powerfull old days elven mages from the time before the veil, that killed the titans and probably due to their blood got much more power and self proclaimed thenselves gods. The titans not god either more like powerfull earth elementals wih lirium of some kind. Power creatures but totally mortal.
Basicaly The golden throne was the home of the real god of the setting.
The oter thing is why Solas want to break the veil now, after all he created it to banish the oter elven "gods" after THEY KILLED Mytal/Flameth, that STILL ALIVE.
I just hope in DA:4 they dont come with social just bullshit about slavery or oter stupidity and give us the story thats alredy setup. And maybe the last double blight =).
Leliana aways gave men not human vibes... i dont think some lirium husk, but definetly some creature created by someone. Artificial human somehow. Maybe mixing lirim and spirits.
Another thing about dwarves and Syndal... and thats why i think he may be somehow titan esque... Syndal can cast, and the only darkspawn mages COMES FROM DWARVEN darkspaw, clearly something up there.
Kal-Shrok totally survived by eating dark spawn.
1:18:08 Villain Arc?! Solas is not a villain! Anymore than any creature on this planet is a villain for devouring other life forms to sustain their own lives. The Cycle of Life is The Cycle of Violence.
Solas is only doing what he has to do to set the world right!
The only reason humans moved to Thedas in the first place was because of Solas God-Tier actions which made Thedas hospitable to them. But does that action make him a hero to them? No it does not. Because Solas didn’t do that for them or because of them.
However Solas is tearing down the Veil that he created to help his own people and restore nature back to it’s natural balance that he interrupted and corrupted by creating The Veil in the first place!
Removing The Veil, for the reasons he’s removing The Veil does however make Solas a real hero!
And here I thought that this Zoomer Generation of ours was all about tearing down walls and building bridges. Even The Boomer Generations President Ronald Regan said, “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!”
But you would have Solas maintain the status quo because some humans who conquered the lands of his people. Enslaved his race for centuries and oppress them still until this very day are gonna now suffer and perish when he succeeds?!
F*ck them humans.
@@endershepard7117 Yes he is
To the whole modern world he's pretty much a villain considering his plans require a bit of End Times for everyone currently alive
Just like the "creatures" you mention can be villains. From chicken's perspective a fox is a villain, from ant's perspective anteater is an evil apocalypse.
The fact that he's a sympathetic one makes Solas all the better and more compelling villain
This is a really good vouch. This guy must truly be legit to get a stranger's compliment like this
I’ve gotta say, aliens in the dragon age world is my LEAST favorite theory. Really takes the magic and sense of wonder from the world
They made dragon age cannon in the mass effect 3 game. So their in the same universe same solar system
@@yogsothoth0115 u mean in mass effect 2 where they had that demon statue in Donovan Hock’s place?
Well, since Mass Effect 1 has followers of The Maker, and then the statue in ME2, and the nod in ME3...it is possible that Thedas is a land on a sheltered planet. The Protheans did conduct experiments with different species, who's to say that they didn't toss a few different species on a planet just to see what would happen?
@@kariwilson3217 who references the maker in Mass Effect 1?
@@MaxPowers2.0 One of the 1st npcs you run into. The "crazy" scientists hiding with the women. He claims he saw into the beacon and saw the prothean extinction. He he also mentions "a maker"
DA:2 doesn't primarily take place in Ferelden. It begins in Lothering, which is in Ferelden, but you leave there almost immediately. The bulk of the game is set in the Free Marches, where Hawke's mother is from. There is even a reoccurring plot device in the derision felt towards Ferelden refugees that flocked there to escape the Blight.
This video is just filled to the brim with inaccuracies whenever he talks about anything outside a reddit theory he's reading almost word for word. He also mispronounced like 80% of all the names and locations in the video, no way this homie has played Dragon Age.
@brodyc4114 I noticed. After the 3rd or 4th inaccuracies, I just stopped watching. If they didn't even try to get minor details right, the entire thing becomes suspect. If you can't even get the setting of the game correct, why am I going to listen to you about theories about the game?
@@brodyc4114 A minute in and he _almost_ stumbled on the word "manuscripts". Listen to how his voice changes. That is the voice of someone who did not expect that word to show up where it did.
@@Jax_Destro Would you consider "little things" to include spelling proper nouns properly by any chance? If so, you might want to add an E to Hawke's name. Just a thought. (I do concur with the point you were making though. Hell at around 12:07 it sounds like he can't even get actual English right. He says "hearsay" when given the context I am pretty sure his script said "heresy" and if it didn't, it sure as hell should have, the Dalish look like far more than just some people spreading pure gossip to the people of the Chantry and Qun, they look like heretics. It is like messing up regimen with regime, canon with cannon or veracity with voracity. Easy to do, but also the kind of thing a native speaker or anyone who considers themselves fluent, should be on the lookout for.
@whyjnot420 I can't believe that I went out of my way to make sure I was spelling Lothering correctly, but messed up Hawke's name. Fixed it, though. To answer your question, when I say little things, I'm referring to details that are arguably insignificant but could easily be double-checked to be sure to get them correct. Alone, these details wouldn't necessarily be enough to discard the whole video, but when combined with larger details such as the games setting, it tells me they haven't played the game and didn't bother to be thorough in their research. I just did a quick google search for the setting of the game, and the first result is the wikipedia article for the game. The quick snippet google shows talks about the game starting in Lothering in Ferelden, but doesn't mention Kirkwall. This leads me to believe that their research ammounted to googling, reading the search snippets, but not going any further. That alone discredits the whole video.
About Sera, she WAS supposed to have a Specialization that involved her accepting her magical powers, which conversations with Cole and Solas constantly hint that she has. There's unused data that heavily suggests this.
For whatever reason, Bioware decided not to go in that direction and gave her the Tempest Specialization instead [which is why Tempest seems to have very little, if anything at all, to do with Sera].
Interesting I didn’t know about this would have been cool for sure honestly I like all the mystery behind the character, and thanks for watching by the way!
great now i can crossplay as a tempest mage
Except for the part where Sera literally gives you quests to go get potions to help in battle. and Tempest has everything to do with using potions in battle. Think before you speak
@Love Yourself your commend is so full of meaning ...and its wasted in a company like Bioware which now has people that dont care about spirituality this is why their latest games suck compare to their first ones, whatever meaning the first game tried to convert with the maker will be lost in the 4th
as long as they only care about pleasing 0.1% of the population
@east bow What the fuck? The Maker was never supposed to concretely exist or not?
The whole point is about people having faith or not, and what effects happen in a society when faith exists and is appropriated by power. Spirituality is examined in numerous characters in Inqusition, and just like real like people have varying outlooks and some people like to discuss it while others don't.
The First Warden being one of the Magisters siddereal makes too much sense. We don’t know anything about the First Warden’s identity, in any point in history. There are no named first wardens. Also, Solas suggests that if all the old gods are killed, something worse may happen.
Ya the first warden is a magister theory in my book should just be where they take the story cause it’s too cool and makes too much sense not to lol. And thanks so much for watching and supporting my channel!
Spoiler Theory: It was Mythal that taught the Wardens the the ritual that they are using. Someone taught them this. How it came to be is not known.
@@AeschylusShepherd maybe it was Flemeth (she is Mythall,) but in Dao it is said that Flemeth has been helping heros reach their goal for many many years. We see that she saves The Hero of Feraldan and Alister from the Tower and then commands Morigan to go with them. She's way too old and knowledgeable to not know what the ritual pertains, she does tell Hawke that the Wardens are the only ones who know how to cure the blight. That's not common knowledge, she knows of the dark ritual and Morigan uses at the end of Origins. She does helps the Inquisitor procure their own dragon or teachers Morigan how to become one. If she taught the wardens to drink the darkspawn blood it would make so much sense
@@AeschylusShepherd That's possible, however there is some indication that the wardens, who started in the anderfels, got the whole joining thing from a group of natives of the donarks, next to the anderfels. They traditionally believed you could gain the strength of the enemy by drinking their blood, and thus they drank darkspawn blood, or possibly archdemon blood, for the first time and became wardens.
Though in the end, an elven god is probably going to be responsible since modern dragon age lore like to say that the elven gods are the cause of literally everything.
@Love Yourself Solas: The Wardens see themselves as the world's defense against the Blight, do they not?
Blackwall: Yes... why do you sound so skeptical? Doesn't everyone know this?
Solas: When an Archdemon rises, they slay it. What will they do when all the Archdemons are slain?
Blackwall: Retire?
Solas: Without Archdemons, there can be no Blights. Is that the reasoning?
Blackwall: Right. Where are you going with this?
Solas: Nowhere. I hope they are correct.
Maferath was Andrastates earthly husband who betrayed her to tevinter. It was Arcon Hessarian who ran her through with his sword to release her from her suffering of being burned at the stake. It was Hessarian who saw the vision of Androstate after her death not Maferath.
I was gonna say this as well not trying to be mean but why is this gif doing theories when he doesn’t know all the lore?
Actually while all of what you said is true...Maferath has their own Canticle that tells the story of his guilt, redemption and Andraste appearing to him telling him that he never had free will he was destined to betray her by the Maker (so Andraste could be his bride).
It's one of the forbidden canticles like Shartan's and Hessarian's because it denies the Andrastian Chantry's claim that Men are inherently by their nature more emotional and treacherous...Which is obviously a lie.
The Modern Chantry condemns Men, Elves and Magic/Mages...The three Canticles they forbid are about Heroic Elves ensuring Andrastiantism victory over Tevinter, A Tevinter Male Mage being the Original Founder of the Faith, Men being enslaved to the will of the Maker and in turn the Maker being a Dark Deity who specifically arranged a brutal death of his beloved (obsession) to claim (steal) her for his own.
They're covering up and pretending the older accounts aren't real and don't matter because it utterly contradicts their Chant of Light interpretation and the actual morality of Men, Elves, Mages and the Maker with the former being justifiable and latter being sickening.
Plus didn't Andraste have 3 sons?
I like the theory that Leliana is actually same type of being as Cole is. That being a spirit that took a liking the the original Leliana who ended up dying in her Origins dlc, thus resulting in the spirit taking on her likeness and carrying on the original Leliana’s desire(s).
Only question is what type of spirit or demon is she? Shes shown compassion, wisdom, faith, but also pride, envy, and rage....
@@reffa2858 if we’re going off this theory being true, then perhaps her time spent with our Warden & the as one of the hands of the divine changed her, making her more human; like how you can make Cole more human in Inquisition
Actually. If you kill Leliana in Origins, when you want to corrupt Andrasta Ashes, she is in Inqusition but... She is changed and confirmed as some kind of Ghost being. So this theory could be True.
if lelliana doesn't die in dao then she's human.
If he dies, he's a ghost
Liking banging dwarves
I just wanted to point out that the Elven god who experimented on people and beings was Ghilan'nain and not Mythal. Mythal was more of a mediator and usually fought for peace.
One thing I want to say about Qunari is that they definitely aren’t dangerous or unstable without the Qun. (Tal)vashoth can be a bit rudderless, but the Inquisitor can be one themselves.
Qunari isn’t even the name of the race, really. It’s possible that Kossith is their race, if not at least their ancestry. But at some point, the people that believe in the Qun took power, and the whole race as we come to know them follow this strict collectivist hierarchy where people have specific roles to further their people as a whole, with threat of death or ‘re-education’ if they don’t comply.
its confirmed that Kossith are the predecessors of Qunari,and more accurately the name of the race before they got the Qun,but it isnt confirmed by Iron Bull ,or Sten,since at that point the Qun has been in power so long that many qunari dont even remember about their true origins,and if they do,its probably heavily altered in Qunari texts they pull from.
About Leliana, I think she may have been possessed by a spirit (or the spirit simply took her form) when she was nearly killed in the Leliana's Song DLC for Origins. She has a total personality change after that event, and hears a voice in her head. We know from Cole that a spirit can become obsessed with a human. Could the same thing not happen to Liliana? A spirit of compassion helped her survive and continue.
When Leliana is recruited by the Hero of Ferelden, she eventually has to confront her past and stop living her new life as an innocent chantry sister. A new purpose, one that involves killing and fighting. Could the new purpose corrupt the spirit of compassion within her, like Anders corrupted Justice into Vengeance?
If Leliana fights against the Hero of Ferelden when they try to poison the Urn of Sacred Ashes, could the same spirit be how she survived? If she was not fully dead the entire time but now was, perhaps the spirit within her took her full corporeal form and memories like the Spirit of Compassion took on Cole's form and memories when the human Cole died in the Spire. This explains how Leliana is able to appear again in Inquisition, as well as her mysterious disappearance at the end of the game. The Spirit could sense its purpose was gone, and moved on to another place.
Just my two cents on Leliana, its been floating in my head for a while. It makes more sense to me than her being a lyrium monster, at least. Great video! It was better than I expected it to be, coming in with expectations from other low effort iceberg videos.
Mark Darrah on Games, on one of his recent dragon age origins streams, said that there could be an issue if Leliana is decapitated at the urn of sacred ashes and how they retconned the lyrium ghost thing for DAI. Its always interesting to watch his streams and get these little nuggets of insider info when the DA games were in development, especially from a lead developer!
The irony of DAO having two dead women kept alive with the help of a spirit is kinda funny
While that makes sense in theory but sadly it can't be because simply justice and vengeance are the same thing vengeance is just one side of or aspect of justice if anything it's purely the judgement side of justice
Believe me, it's not that deep.
@@SeventhheavenDK why are you here watching this video if "its not that deep" is your response to everything
I like the idea that part of why Solas sealed away the evanuris is because they were using blight magic, and it’s what eventually killed Mythal, and that with building up the veil, he sealed away the blight with the fade, the black city being a part of Arltathan, and that with the magisters entering the fade, they just contracted the blight, and then brought it back
My take is Mythal became blighted and the Evanuris were actually justified in killing her because she had become a threat to all. I'm sure the Evanuris are still not benevolent, but then looking at the rulers over the last 1000 years in Tevinter, Orlais, and Ferelden, it seems benevolent is not standard so the Evanuris may not be quite as evil as they seem once we actually learn more about them from primary sources.
I also do think that putting up the Veil also sealed away the Blight. One way we see this in effect is how after Corypheus tears the Veil in Inquisition, red (blighted) lyrium starts appearing all over the place. My current theory is lyrium interacting directly with the fade produces red lyrium and this is the origin of blight. The key takeaway here would be that the Blight never had anything to do with specifically the Golden City, it was just the act of the Magisters Sidereal creating an opening in the Veil that originated the Blight. One of the few details that seems accepted about that ritual is that it required a majority of ALL the lyrium the Imperium had stockpiled...
I could go on about this all being evidence of an enraged Titan having been sundered (made tranquil), but alas that would be another essay...
1:32:35 it's also worth pointing out that the darkspawn taint DEFINITELY predates the second sin in some form. In DA2, we go to the Primeval Thaig, which was shut before the blights for an unknown reason and contains red lyrium, which as we know is blighted lyrium.
What if the Lyrium came first?
What if the Magisters used Red Lyrium to break into the Golden City?
Maybe teleporting with Red Lyrium is what caused their corruption?
And blackened the Golden City at the moment of their arrival?
Remember "Titans" reside far underground and I dont know if darkspawn can taint a Titan. Could be the Thaig was used by the Sideereal to enter the black city by using the titan itself or something but idk
@@chapserenazula5657 Lyrium is the blood of the titans - if it can be blighted, I imagine the titans themselves would also be susceptible.
Taint was already in the Golden City when Corypheus and other magisters came there, it wasn't a curse from the Maker. No spirit or demon dares "floating" to the Black City as it is confirmed that even demons can get corrupted by the taint.
This reminds me of why I became so obsessed with DA in the first place. The lore is so rich, and the writing so solid, Tolkien would be equal parts jealous and proud.
I'm concerned as the original genius behind the DA franchise has long left. Hopefully, the new team respects the priceless treasure they've been entrusted with.
I wish for that as well.. but I’m expecting little from the new team.
Dread wolf is my "please be good game". I desperately want it go back to the Dragon Age Origin's tone and feel or at the very like least the early gameplay preview of DA:I
thats not gonna happen. Bioware is now filled with activist devs who dont even play their own games
Yeah it's not looking good so far.
Same. I played all three, and Inquisition was better than I expected, but it still feels all wrong. Too many retcons and inconsistancies.
@@OrphanCrippler1 You said it. Bioware used to be an amazing team. Now it's comprised of self-righteous pricks, more concerned with pandering to minorities who themselves are self-regarding, than they are with making a good, solid game.
brack the same feel is impossible consider it isnt the same experience. tone however is possible, we're well aware how dark origins is based of its story but also on the topic. whilse D2 and Inquisition not only toned down everything but most of all doesnt allow the story to stay consistent to the story. for me id rather want a Origins remake
I've had a theory since DA2 that the last Old Gods left are the Twins. So when thr next Blight starts, it will be led by not one, but two Archdemons. This theory is far more terrifying with the prospect of the largest Blight in history being followed closely by whatever they might be sealing away, and Thaedus might not be ready.
thedus. THE Dragon Age Setting. the-d.u.s.
@@xemmyQ THE Dragon Age Setting is THEDAS not thedus.
Oooh that makes sense its the twins, can't wait to see what happens!
Where is it implied they might be sealing off something? I remember Solas freaking out about the prospect of killing them, but not much besides that.
@@leonardomarquesbellini the art in the trailer for DA4 and some of the elvhen panels from Trespasser. The Golden city is surrounded by a circle with 7 nodes on it, 5 of the nodes are dark, 2 are lit. There are 7 archdemons and thus far 5 have been killed, so the theory is that the 2 lit nodes are the remaining 2 archdemons/blights and archdemons are some sort of 'keys' to the Golden City. It would explain why Solas freaked out at the idea of the wardens seeking out and killing the remaining archdemons before they woke.
You mentioned something i didn't notice in the Dreadwolf trailers: The fact that the trailer implies the darkening of the Golden City was because of Solas.
This implies a lot. It implies that the Maker is actually one of Evanuris, that the Golden City is one of the marvels that depended on the Fade [which Solas mentions many of them were destroyed or ruined after he created the Veil] and that the Tevinter Magisters DID NOTHING WRONG THERE. They were actually correct when they say that the city was empty and seemed strange, they got there AFTER Solas created the Veil, sealed the Evanuris away and ruined the Golden City.
Solas's actions did SOMETHING to the city, something so dark that it created the Taint within the Magisters, transforming them into the first Darkspawn.
Exactly my mind was blown when I saw discussions on it hopefully BioWare is actually taking some of those ideas to heart
The maker abandoned men due to following false gods so the maker cannot be one of the Evanuris
@@windingroadelven Men believed in the Maker, so that's blatantly not true. One of the POINTS of the series is that the Chantry isn't 100% right with what they say happened.
@@AzureRoxe That is an opinion which is shared in-universe with some of the characters, it is not a statement made fact. Also the series makes the player question every piece of lore that we collect, not only the chantry. It's always something like "could be true, could not be true. We don't know".
This theory is crazier when you consider that Solas - is - the Maker and Mythal was his first ever Maker-bride.
We know the Maker in the chant cast down the veil and created the separation between Man and Fade, and we have w full admission from
Solas that he created the veil those thousands of years ago.
The Elven mythos transitions naturally into human Chantry mythos, and since Flemeth and by extension others (including Solas?) can be vessels for old ancient god spirits (or the Evanuris) then Andraste wouldve been the first “Flemeth” before she would receive that part of Mythal.
I've kind of had the theory that the blight was created as a final 'fuck you' from one of the vanquished elven gods and that Solas had to desperately contain. So they sat in the black city for millennia with the taint getting more and more concentrated, eventually leaking into the fade, and from there to lyrium and the minds of magisters, who broke in and took the initial concentrated wave, becoming whatever they became as well as giving the blight a foothold in a physical world it may not have been created for in the first place, hence all the twisting and spikes.
Regarding the human model for the cut scene in the Temple of Mythal - a dev confirmed a couple years back that they just never thought anyone would notice the model wasn't an elf (lol). It has nothing to do with the lore unfortunately.
As a long-time Dragon Age fan, this is an incredible video. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into this!
Solas's interest in Sera is SO interesting to me. It is far too pointed for it not to mean more to me. Her physical body being different is also incredibly curious. I want to know more on this one SO bad.
I really hope Sera never appears again, her character is disgusting, worst character in the DA franchise.
IIRC they used a modified human model for Fenris too to make him taller and more muscular than the other elves. So it feels like it's more natural variation than lore.
@@SeventhheavenDK Did you play DA:O with Oghren? 😂 She’s a complex character but the vitriol towards her screams misogyny. Plenty of male characters are shit or annoying in lots of franches - never seen the reaction Sera got.
Them tiddies tho
yeah i don't think Sera is some secret God. She just a goofy ass girl
I think you got some of the Dwarven lore wrong. The get the worst of the Darkspawn when there aren't blights. During blights they always get a respite because the Darkspawn are almost all on the surface.
Although this is normally true, I don't think this was true during the rise of the first Archdemon. At that point the darkspawn conquered the overwhelming majority of the Deep Roads before taking to the surface.
@@BunnyHoper7 That sounds right.
My theory is they're the high priests of the Evanuris, the Evanuris are locked behind eluvians and killing all the Old Gods is the key to their freedom.
@@lizd2943 Who are you saying are the high priests of the Evanuris exactly?
@@BunnyHoper7 The Old Gods.
He took upon himself a form reserved for the Gods and their Chosen- Mythal can turn into a dragon- the dragon form was reserved for the Evanuris and their high priests. Solas locked the Evanuris behind Eluvians and either placed the keys in some way into their high priests or made the priests themselves the keys, bound them in slumber in their dragon forms, and buried them deep. They whispered to the ancient humans, taught them blood magic, got them to found the Tevinter Imperium all to raise up 7 high priest magisters of their own who could pierce the veil, enter the Black City/Arlathan, get infected by the red lyrium there, create the Darkspawn, all to bring them to the surface one by one to be killed by the Wardens to free the keys so the Evanuris can return. That's why Sols blows his stack over the Grey Warden's plan to raise a demon army and kill the last two in their sleep. He says they don't think about what would come after.
I don't know about this hypothesis. If the Old Gods truly were the most favored worshippers of the Evanuris, why does each raise darkspawn armies and try to destroy the other civilizations? If their plan was to just die to free their deities, it would be easier and much faster to raise darkspawn first, then seek out all the other sleeping Old Gods, and after all are awake the dragons can kill all the darkspawn, come to surface themselves, and just lay down and let the humans slay them. Instead, the Archdemons fight back, and more fiercely than any other dragon, they don't seem like they're looking to be slain.
The thing with the Wardens in Inquisition is that we find out what they are doing during the main story. They are all gathering together and following Corypheus because they are being scared into believing they won't be able to stop the next blight. I also think that Corypheus being a former Tevinter magister makes the whole thing with the Wardens secretly being lead by one a good bit unlikely cause if that were the case, the leader would have just approached him and told him the plan
I mean there isn't really any idea of whether or not the Magisters are still allies after being tainted.
Except they agreed because corypheus wasnt directly involved
Corypheus sent out the calling to every living warden and in their panic a tevinter magister aligned with corypheus gave them the idea to march ro the deep roads and slay the remaining old gods
The map quest for "unmask those across the sea" in dragon age inquisition actually leads to gaining a message directly from those across the sea; a group or people who call themselves the Executors. That name has already been referenced as being a faction in DA:D. So either these people are not the kosseth...or we're going to get some origins to the Qunari real soon.
well it would be kinda weird to not get any backstory for the qunari in a game set in a nation at war with them for centuries.
The executors are one of many groups "across the sea" I assume and i dont think they are the kosseth, or at least not just them. But on my hunt for information outside of thedas I found the executors..... and nothing else. Lol literally there's nothing outside of the executors in the 3RD game for info on things across the sea. And the message you get from using Cullen is one of the most disturbing pieces of lore ever to me
@@chapserenazula5657please do tell, what happens if you use Cullen?
@@robertyocum7200 "Three outposts on the Nevarran border were found abandoned with no sign of struggle and nothing destroyed or taken. But in every camp, this message:
We hold your Inquisition in high esteem. Thedas's present troubles are great, but you have the strength to meet and conquer them. More will come. We prepare for the day and hold vigil. Do not look for your men; do not mourn them. They have given themselves of their own free will to a higher cause.
On behalf of powers across the sea,
The Executors"
I took a quick look to see if someone else had said this, but if they have and I missed it, I apologize. The magister who killed Andraste was Hessarian. Maferath was her husband who betrayed her to the magisters.
Yeah he misinterpreted it as Maferath killing her
Maferath turned her over to Tevinter out of jealousy for a God, Hessarian had her burned but then stabbed her out of mercy to end her suffering. Harvard brought her ashes back to Ferelden after being *revived from death by Andraste* and Maferath saw a vision of her forgiving him
He has a few other small mistakes like that in this video too. Things like DA2 taking place in Ferelden and some mistakes in names and pronunciations. It's interesting bc a lot of the other lore and stuff is so in depth in this video.
@@sohvidarity Yeah, honestly, some of the mistakes made make me wonder if he actually played (all) the games or is just aware of them and found the lore interesting. I mean, these are words/names pronounced in game, how do you get them wrong? Another instance is when he was talking about the formation of the Grey Wardens. How do you talk about that and not mention the information found in the Fade, during DA:I that specifically talks about how 'the Joining' ritual was 'discovered'? Or when he talked about the origins of the Qunari but didn't go into detail about the possible link to them having been an experiment by one of the Elvhen Gods, Ghilanain. Many others have found things that might support this, but he doesn't bring it up at all. And when discussing the Titans, how do you not bring up that the Titans are of the Earth; that part of Descent took place within a Titan? There was just so much I found 'off' in this video, I couldn't help but question if he played the games.
Maferath: Judas - Closest confidant to Traitor.
Hessarian: Pontius Pilate - Trying to be kind within the confines of his adversarial position.
Now here's where it gets interesting: In the (pre-bible) Gospel of Judas, _Jesus asked Judas to turn him in,_ so He could make a showtrial of it.
Transpose that onto Andraste, and that makes Maferath's 'betrayal' a political scheme _by them both_ to _deliberately_ make Her a martyr!
I love the Dragon Age Series but man is it grim. Everyone needs a hug and a cup of warm tea from all the crap that happens to them. Some friends and I were talking about what game Universe we'd like to live in if we had to pick. I think I'd be too scared to live in the Dragon Age world. Just the fact that the Broodmother exists is enough to give me shivers
don't forget the Children and giant spooders.
Avoiding the deep roads seems prudent. Tbh elderscrolls or the watcher wouldn't be much better, the best fantasy worlds are terrifyingly treacherous to the unwary.
Dragon Age 2 is set in Kirkwall, a city of the Free Marches, not Ferelden.
Ya my bad on that thank you for the correction and for watching!
Watched the whole video and I'll probably do it again at some point lol, amazing job! Crazy how good DA lore is, can never get enough of it and its theories.
Some of the best lore I’ve dived into yet, and thanks so much for supporting!
I agree wholeheartedly with you about how fascinating and addictive Dragon 🐉 Age Lore is. I can stll vividly remember how I gorged, devoured and consumed every códex entry I received in Dragon Age Origins all those years ago now.
It’s good sh!t…
I’ve never watched any of your videos and was listening to this in the background of work so when you started talking about the lizard people cult you really got me man
Haha ya I always love throwing a joke in at the end of one of them 😂, and thanks for watching!
Wonderful video, but one minor quibble: you state at one point that the majority of DAO and DA2 take place in Ferelden. No. DAO does but the majority of DA2 occurs in Kirkwall, which is the Free Marches. Only at the very, very beginning when the Hawkes are fleeing Lothering, are they in Ferelden.
Man you are ON POINT with your videos. Dragon Age has some of the most mysterious lore, especially with Inquisition(which I could bring myself to finish, the stretched out MMO gameplay just killed my motivation to do so).
Thanks a lot! Ya the more of dragon age is so good one of the best I’ve done
I haven’t played/thought of dragon age in so long, this video might rehash some of the love I had for this series when I was younger. The lore is so nuanced and you did an excellent job covering it with this vid
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Justice being in Anders was such an interesting concept to tackle (and was cool to see them carry on from Origins, although Anders' character was tweaked quite a bit), I was hoping we would one day find some strange way to sever their connection. DA2 didn't because of how short and contrived it was. DAI could have had a mini mission like that... though, with how they technically wrote Hawke out of the story in the dumbest death for a hero possible, not sure that's ever going to happen.
Sad. Justice was a great character.
Justice becoming Vengeance is a unique first-hand look at how even put-together Fade spirits can be *changed* by the tide of circumstance.
We don’t know Hawke is dead. They might live, everyone just assumed they died
Well.. Hawke is definitely alive in my playthroughs. Stroud is the one being left behind in the fade
Thought: The Maker is Solas/Fen'Harel. No, he is not the creator of the whole world and everything, it is just that humans refer to him as such, a title of legend and myth much like The Dreadwolf. Andraste is Mythal, similarly another persona for the her, maybe before Flemeth came into the picture. And the Old Gods are the Evanuris. The Maker/Fen'Harel banished/tricked the Old Gods/Evanuris to slumber Underground/in the Fade. When that happened, the Golden City turned black (as shown in Dreadwolf trailer), accessible only from the material realm only through Blood Magic. When the Magisters, lured by the whispers of the Old Gods/Evanuris, breached the Black City, whatever corrupted the Fade and strengthened the Veil to its extreme there infected the physically present magisters into the first darkspawn. When the breach happened, the Old Gods/Evanuris immediately rushed to the physical realm as spirits, seeking out the most powerful bodies there, ancient high dragons, thus the city was empty when the magisters arrived. When the blood fueling the breach ran out and the magisters came back to the material realm, they continued looking for their gods, following their whispers. As for the Broodmother origin question, I just figured that at least one or more of the Magisters were female, not all of them male.
Ooooor all of this is a Geth social experiment on primitives they stuck in a virtual reality controlled environment. Everyone needs a hobby, even the Geth.
Awesome lengthy video with heavy theories and ideas. Your iceberg videos keep getting better and better. 🔥🔥🔥
This was a great deep dive. I love all of the theories.
I'm reminded of a Bioware dev replying to one of many theories in Mass Effect. He said "We're just not that deep" I found it hilarious. Yet, I also thought it could be a red herring...
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Not sure if you're correct about the denizens of ancient Thedas. The dwarves are not just underground, they are the mindless drones of the Titans and are living among them wherever they went, like bees. Think about the Titans as the hive mind of the dwarven hive. Elvhen didn't just live in the sky, they also lived wherever they want. In an Inquisition codex entry, it is said that earthquakes once shook Elven cities, and they sought to "tame" the land. That was the war that they fought with the Titans.
Thank you. Someone who actually understands the lore. There are a ton of frustrating errors in this video...
some of your early iceberg vids i had issues with but this one is probably the best iceberg vid ive ever seen!
I was waiting on this one! 😁 This must of took so long to edit, Amazing job 🖤
Was a lot of work for sure lol, thanks for watching!
You seriously got me with that scaled ones one 😂
Mission accomplished lol 😂
As a long time fan and lore nerd for Dragon Age this was so fun to watch! While I don't agree with or like all of the theories presented, every one of them really made me think which is always fun. This definitely makes me even more excited for Dread Wolf. I was a little surprised that you didn't mention the story of Andruil and the Void (or you did and i didn't catch it) and the theory that she actually found the Blight in the Void. With all of that on my mind I can't help but wonder if maybe the Forgotten Ones made the Blight, Andruil found it which brought it to the attention of the Evanuris and Solas, then Solas uses the Blight (i just can't imagine him creating such a thing unless he really is a lot more vile than he's shown which would be fascinating but i hope not) against the Evanuris after Mythal's death.
So many things that we can speculate on as we wait. There's also the new comic with Varric and Harding that I'm sure will reveal some cool things to us.
Ya honestly diving into the lore of dragon age was awesome it has so much good stuff, and also thank you so much for watching and supporting my channel!
Oh God, Solas using the supernatural equivalent of the biblical Plagues/biowarfare? I hope that’s not true, but if he did go to such lengths, it would make so much of his guilt and self-loathing make even more sense.
I love those dark tangents that you make up! The "Iceberg" genre is so riddled with disturbing conspiracy theories by design that I find myself thinking less and less critically as I listen and it's good to be reminded of that every once in a while.
I love these kinds of videos! There's so much I never even knew about this series... So mysterious.
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I think Leliana is closer to Solas and Flemeth.
Dirthamen fits her very well being the elven god of secrets and knowledge, and master of the ravens Fear and Deceit.
Inquisitions main focus seemed to be the revelation that the gods are very much alive.
Thanks for this fun video. DA is one of my favorite franchises. I love games with deep lore. They make it funnier to dig into. Bioware, CDProject Red, and Bethesda seem to be the few that grasp that a game is better the more immersive it is.
Thank you so much for watching!
The Golden city is Arlathan. The Elven city. Its black because the blight is almost certainly an Elven weapon/magic of the Evanuris that got sundered along with everything else when Solas broke the world when he created the Veil.
My speculation theory below.
•The chant of light and humans "maker" is remarkably aligned with Solas forming the Veil itself to allow humans to survive.
It is ironically possible that the humans entire religion is based off the magical events and destruction and subsequent creations that occured when Solas locked the entire fade away making an Elf the humans Maker that they attributed to a God "maker" because they had no other way to explain the events caused by Solas.
This video reminded me of just how much I love this series, thank you so much for doing this you did an incredible job
What an amazing pice of art you made! ❤️
I'd love to see more icebergs about DA, i bet there is a lot more left
Ya so much lore to explore even more one of the best series for lore I’ve done yet, still want to do more general iceberg videos on more series then will dive more into your guys favorites, I’ll put up a poll next for what you guys wanna see
@ 48:30 - The Voshi are possibly struggling to deal with the large monsters of the deep sea created by Ghilan'nain the mother of halla but... also monsters. There are some codexs mentioning she made quite a number of deep sea and land monsters but at one point was advised to destroy most of her creations. For some reason the Dead Wolf convinced her to not destroy the ones of the sea. Why? Possibly so they could continue to protect the elven lands from invasion from other civilizations on other contents. We actually can see them in one of the Dread Wolf trailers, huge monsters rising out of the sea between metallic warden boots.
You're talk of Fen'Harel in Tier 4 only convinces me more that Solas is indeed the Chantry's idea of the Maker.
Great timing with this video. Just started a new DA:I playthrough this weekend so this is just perfect to get me in the right headspace
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such a great video! had a lot of fun listening it. thanks for your hard work!
Thank you so much for the kind words! And glad you enjoyed
Thank you for this awesome Iceberg. Want to redo the trilogy now xD!
😂😂, thanks for watching haha
"Twisted, horrific and demented theories in lore".
Yeah, the theory that Fiona is not Alistair's mother is crazy, man.
Also, a great video, glad I found it :)
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All this great lore and theories. And me a DAO enjoyer just wants his Warden back as the player character in DA4.
This is the most interesting and comprehensive DA lore video I’ve ever seen. Well done man.
As an absolute sucker for dragon age, I appreciate this
Thank you.
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Nice work! Very entertaining.
Really appreciate that!
So glad you made this!
Hope you enjoy thanks Taylor!
This lore video was amazing, great job! One I will keep coming back too.
What if the Veil only covers Thedas and the reason the people who came to the continent don’t know their history and people who leave are lost is because they crossed the Veil.
Love this idea a lot actually would be such a cool revelation, and thanks for watching!
Just finished the Prey iceberg subbed and came straight here 😂 imma just binge all your icebergs real quick 😂😂
Thank you for making this i adore dragon age lore and even someone like me that has followed it since the beginning you mentioned things ive never heard of such as the Vex.
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This video is, dare I say, Enchanting
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I came to Dragon Age originally for just a fun twist on standard fantasy and wound up with a setting as grim as Warhammer yet twice as fun. For me the moment that really defined Dragon Age was finding the broodmother in Origins, having that buildup, finding the dwarf, discovering the horrors of the darkspawn, and that incredible initial "WHAT THE HELL?!" reaction followed immediately by just purging the entire area with fire and blades. There's just something about the setting I've never seen replicated elsewhere in the way it can swing from genuine touching moments to ASTONISHING horror to a great boss fight.
So, it was my assumption that with Kieran, Morrigan’s son, in possession of the soul Urthemeil and Mythal/Flemmeth attempting to reclaim it in DA:I, that all but confirms the theory that the Old Gods are the Evanuris. We know Felmmeth taught Morrigan the original ritual that transferred the soul of Urthemiel back in DAO, I believe Morrigan’s original justification for going along with this ritual was “preserving something old and ancient worth preserving”. It seems odd that both Morrigan and Flemmeth would be interested in preserving the soul of an Old God that was only an Old God of Ancient Tevinter. Sure, Morrigan may not have known, but Flemmeth obviously did.
love all of your vids man!
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This has been one of my favourite icebergs you have done love dragon age can't wait for new game
glad you enjoyed it! The Lore in Dragon Age is really awesome had a fun time making it, and same can't wait for Dreadwolf
@@FranklyGaming i played cyperpunk and absolutely hate the end would never replay game as far as I'm concerned the best end is to shoot v in the head and don't go on because your dead anyway your choices have no meaning at all or it feels like that because after end credits you go back in game to point of no return like nothing happened don't like when it feels like I've wasted my time
I kinda feel sorry for Solas. He keeps trying over and over to fix bad situations and cannot for the life of him figure out the best way to do it. Its his own fault though bc his pride won't let him let others help him or offer opinions, but he does want to fix things. He's just kind of an idiot.
I was waiting for a video like this for a long time 🤩
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Truly astounding work brother
Good video, learned a couple things I didn't know. But I do remember hearing about a Easter egg in Mass Effect where you can fly across a planet that's looks like a destroyed thedas, so not sure about that mass effect theory
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What planet was that? I want to check that out!
Here's a DAO Easter egg. Ho to the camp and look straight up. You will see a VERY familiar impact crater across the moon.
Which planet?? Is it in ME one??
Dragon Age has such good lore, I can't even remember how many fan fictions I've read based on this series. Some of it is so good it feels like it should have been in the game.
yeaaaah thank you so much i've been wanting someone to do this video since i saw the iceberg!!
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I always think that Sandal is somehow has Lyrium in his blood ever since I saw his eyes in DAII. In Origins his eyes wasn't that blue.
Great content. Always fun to watch these.
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This video is so well done. Didn't know most of these.
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This is LEGENDARY! Thank you. ❤
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Good video overall, however, I have to voice some opinions on the "a magister is leading the wardens" theory. Im unsure if I can buy this one. Dont get me wrong, the idea sounds cool, but there are some REALLY weird flaws in the logic for it.
1. we know the wardens were formed during the first blight. What the video forgets to mention is, THIS BLIGHT WAS ALMOST 200 YEARS LONG. This wasent a "oh, thats not good, lets make a marry band of men" and over within in 5 years. Why, if for any reason, would an ancient entity vying for power with the knowledge to make this group of super soldiers let the conflict drag that far out.
2. In the fade, during the quest pertaining to the dreamers, we (kinda sorta) interact with what can be assumed to be a founding member of the order, or at least someone who was there during the beginning stages, given their entrees talk about finding the way to BECOME wardens. Aka, the blood rituals. And the way its written, it seems this was a long ongoing search. Again, if this has been planned and orcastraited from the start, would we be interacting with a long dead soul seemingly in agony over the decades it took to find a way to even begin a counter attack.
3. I hate to sound mean, but are we really saying that an ancient magister, powered by blight (at least if the other 2 are similar to them) has somehow been able to perfectly stay hiding as the top commander of the one group in the entire world of thedas that is most suited to catch on to his shenanigans, given they can SENSE DARKSPAWN AT ALL TIMES. No, im sorry, but if this was true, it would basically be saying that from the very beginning the entire order of graywardens has been a complete and utter band of the worlds largest messups unable to even do the one job they have. I cannot buy it.
4. This would also throw a vast majority of what we know/assume about Flemith/Mythal out of wack. She actively helps the wardens in origins. If we are going to assume that Flemith is probably not on the best of terms with the ancient tivinter magisters, given she has the soul of an elven god and ya know, elves and vints, it would make NO sense for her to just willynilly assist the wardens in killing what, in this theory, is a form of magical lock put in this world made by HER BEST FRIEND. We could point at the old god baby, but given its a completely optional aspect of the game, I feel like it would be pretty bad if an elven god just said "eh, whatever happens happens" to one of the only ways of sealing away whatever it is that the oldgods are acting as a lock for. It would, much like the wardens, make her character look vastly incompetent and only serve to make this mysterious all knowing old soul look like a bumbling buffoon.
The idea of it being some mastermind complex sounds cool till put to scrutiny. It would completely kill any and all credibility for one of the series biggest and most influential in world groups. Not to mention, it would retroactively make all of origins be "lmao guess you really were the bad guy, good job screwup". I cannot hope this is a real plot point in any way.
Love Dragon Age lore! It's has so much opportunity theory crafting so I appreciated the video (there were a few minor errors but I knew what you meant).
I wasn't going to comment but the Mystery Book you mentioned in Part 4 caught my ear because I've been watching a let's play recently and a relevant codex entry came up.
If you're chasing three missing gods there is a codex called "Fen'Harel: The Dread Wolf" in DAO that has a passage that reads:
"...The legends say that before the fall of Arlathan, the gods we know and revere fought an endless war with others of their kind. There is not a hahren among us who remembers these others: Only in dreams do we hear whispered the names of Geldauran and Daern'thal and Anaris, for they are the Forgotten Ones, the gods of terror and malice, spite and pestilence. In ancient times, only Fen'Harel could walk without fear among both our gods and the Forgotten Ones, for although he is kin to the gods of the People, the Forgotten Ones knew of his cunning ways, and saw him as one of their own..."
Three gods - Geldauran, Daern'thal and Anaris - and rather than being sealed away beyond the Veil it goes on to say they were trapped by Fen'Harel in the abyss (Void). Maker knows what they've been up to all this time.
Alternatively, the book may not be Tevinter in origins. Given the translation from Latin was imperfect I went looking and found that Old English also provides a fairly good fit.
"Elvehan Diis Falsis" remains the same however "Triew Metod Dracas" comes up slightly different. Triewe means faithful or true. Metod is maker, creator, or God. Draca(s) is dragon. So a potenial reading could be Elven False Gods: True Dragon Gods.
The book might be confirmation that the Elven gods (or possibly the Forgotten Ones) and Old Dragon Gods are one and the same. Interesting either way.
Oh and with your diagram at 58:50 where you're discussing the void remember you don't necessarily need to separate blood and lyrium. Lyrium is Titan's blood - that's why it can be corrupted by the blight (hence red lyrium). Weirdly it's kind of a personal choice on where you draw the line on the definition of blood. The fun bit being it could technically mean the majority of mages are blood mages, and there are probably some dodgy implications for all those lyrium addicted templars too.
We've got all sorts of blood-based shenanigans going on around here.
It also might mean the Voshai from across the Volca Sea who were obsessed with trading Lyrium either; never had Titans, killed them all off or they've all become corrupted by the blight (hence why the blue stuff is so sort after) and which could also explain the "massive cataclysm" in their homeland.
Well done!
The time, effort and research you put into this one really shows. :)
Thank you.
*For some reason i think Sandal is something...else.. some "other" not necessarily good or evil..
Would make for a good plot twist.
**Would be interesting if he is a vessel of a eldritch cosmic being or something that turns everything we thought on its head.
***Also, I had no idea there was "this" much lore in Dragon Age.. maby it's time to replay the series! Lol*
Appreciate it!
My favorite part in DA:O was the the curtain reveal of Andraste as told by the spirits of her apostles, tales which would collapse the Chantry
This in generally vaguely accurate and about mysteries discussed a lot in the fandom, but there's a few things that sound very odd like the "mixing elven and dragon blood can create elven gods like Flemeth" which sounds like the Evanuris were just elves that one day injected themselves with dragon blood and then reached godhood and it could even turn out to be true, but I don't really get where this is taken from. Maybe it's just the way some sentences in the video are said and actually you meant something else, but there are many "little" details that seem mixed up scattered in the video, like saying that Dragon Age II is set primary in Ferelden.
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Since you mentioned sentient foxes, it is said that Dirthamen gave a secret to each creature but only the bears kept it and were favored by him; foxes traded their secret for wings. Makes me think of bats, and maybe bat-winged people? That would be fun in the deep cavern biosphere.
This is an incredible video! You don't often see content like this for Dragon Age on youtube. Thank you so much for making it!
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1:09:58 The dwarves could have figured out how the grey wardens become grey wardens on their own and most likely it's how they survived many probably died but also many probably survived too, but they probably fear that the grey wardens will kill them all if they figure out they figured out their secret on how they fight the dark spawn,it would be logical,I'd be scared if I figured out on my own a warden secret out of desperation ans survival and I would do anything to keep it a secret
DA lore is amazing, hooked me instantly
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you got me with the Scaled Ones cult LOL
Cool video. Totally got me with the Illuminati lizard man cult thing 😂😂
Is it possible the scaled ones were the first Tevinter experiments that eventually created the Qunari using dragon blood magic? I wonder if the Kossith and scaled ones are the same. I also think sometimes... what if the Crows are actually crows, shapeshifters recruited by the assassins because of that, like how mages go to the circle and throughout these games they have been watching you the whole time. Lol
Great video.
Would be interesting for sure hopefully they dive more into in the future, and thanks so much for watching!
@Love Yourself ya some are Lilianna's pets ''the ones with red hair'' but others are normal crows
I figured the kossith were originally normal humans or elves but experimented on with dragon blood. The extensive and obsessive reliance on the Qun is what keeps them sane.
Could just be the sea refugees from beyond the sea. The one in Tier 3
I always assumed Sandal was another child of the ritual Morrigan does in DAO. That works with him being a "reborn" Old God.
Loved the video, but I just wanted to point out, in the Codex for "Request for Resources on the Fade" that isn't two different books, its one entry: "Elvehan Diis Falsis: Triew Metod Dracas, untranslated, author unknown"
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Awesomeness iceberg! It was great to listen to while working out!
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Are you ripped now
The Maker left bioware along time ago
Been a while since I played through the series, but I was under the impression that the "old gods" and the Elvhen Pantheon where one in the same. That is the 7 old gods are what became of the members of the pantheon after The Solas did the whole creating the veil thing. After all there are 9 members of each group... kinda. That is 7 Old gods + Mythal aka Flemeth + The Dread Wolf aka Solas = 9 gods. Also Flemeth is kind of a dragon, like the other old gods. And we know she had a vested interest in saving the old gods souls, and directed Morrigan on how to save Uthemeal (or w/e). Also Also The Tevinter mages worshipped the old gods, and were trying to get to the center of the fade. What exactly happened isn't clear only that whatever was backfired horribly and corrupted them and led to the Darkspawn. Perhaps, they were acting at the behest of the old gods in an attempt undo the separation between physical world and the Fade that had been created by Silas, in order for the Old gods to regain their previous elvhen divinity. Also Also Also tearing down the veil is kinda what corypheus is trying to do in inquisition. Also x4 we know the old gods taught the Tevinter magic, which comes from the fade, which the old elvhen gods were master of both. Finally Also, David Gaider the lead writer on the series, kinda hinted this might be the case.
Side note, where is it stated that the Elvhen Gods were constantly at war w/ one another, I haven't read every line of text in every game or side content but I don't remember anything indicating as such. From what I do remember from the games they were always presented to be mostly unified, except Solas who didn't like them "pretending" to be gods doing that whole betrayal thing. I mean it's framed as a betrayal, which is something you can only do to friends or allies, not to people who are already your enemies.
The Blight is draconic.
The Old Gods are draconic.
_Mythal_ is Draconic. - The Old Gods are the Elvhen gods (like Mythal).
The Blight is ""of"" the Elvhen/Old gods.
Their tool?
@@JoshSweetvale hmm could be, but if that was the case why would they infect themselves with it? At least Mythal seems pretty dead set in opposition of the blight, I suppose it could be something that Solas set up though. A booby trap in the fade perhaps.
It's Solas, not Silas 😐
@@tuikku8645 :P Fixed
Really good deep dive, I learnt a lot! One query: isn't Sera just a half-elf, hence being too stocky for elven stuff?
Video is interesting. Love to see people talking about the Grim Anatomy.
A note though - almost none of Dragon Age 2 takes place in Ferelden. While Hawke is from Ferelden, you maybe spend half an hour there before moving on to Kirkwall for the rest of the game, which is in the Free Marches.
Holy hell... I need to play some Dragon Age
Thanks for watching!
29:10 Wait wait wait... Flemmeth is the amalgam of Dragon and Elf blood? I thought the whole dragon thing was a type of magic shapeshifting. Does anyone have a source?
Flemmeth was shape-shifting into a dragon. Flemmeth herself is human; potentially of Andraste's bloodline given that it is a female only line and at no point is it even hinted that Flemeth ever bore a son. The original Flemmeth was married to Lord Connobar of highever, prior to becoming the body hopping Mythal-Flemeth soul entity.
I don't need to know Flemmeth's backstory, I know it well which is why I am questioning where dragon blood got mixed into her line, she is an abomination not half dragon.
at 1:01:40 on the black city. This explanation also perfectly aligns with what Corypheus states when you first release him from the prison in Dragon Age 2. He's clearly reminiscing about the events and goes "The city! It was supposed to be golden! It was supposed to be ours!" clearly indicating that whatever they found was not the golden city, as the Chantry helpfully says as well.
Regarding the loss of the elves to humanity. There is the information that the humans attacked the second Elvhanan (empire) after the veil came down and around the time the elves began to realise their youngest were growing old. And put the blame on humans.
The only disturbing fact about Dragon Age is how Bioware/EA created the perfect dark fantasy universe just to destroy it completely with just 2 games.
Thats something I'll never understand.