No. lol. but seriously... no. I remember going to see whatever movie it was just to watch the teaser trailer... I remember yelling that's the wrong font and left.
My favorite Enterprise by far!! I don't care how much hate I get! It just looks great! The nacelles actually look like they can pack a punch! And before I get blasted or not "understating" Star Trek, I love the original movies and shows as well! People just have to accept it isn't the same Star Trek.
I honestly don’t find it ugly. I don’t like JJ Star Trek but I think the Enterprise looks awesome in it. Now the Enterprise J and Beyond Enterprise A those are an eye sore to me
I was initially disappointed with it as it wasn't a true reflection of the original series enterprise, considering it was supposed to be the original time line, anyhow I too fell in love with it and very much liked that they flatted out under the primary hull; always thought the concave profile was daft and a waste of space
Why does everyone hate on the new Enterprise? I mean don't get me wrong, the original Enterprise look futuristic for its time, so can't we be thankful that this one looks futuristic for its time
It's ugly, the original (telly) and the refit were aesthetically pleasing from pretty much any sight line while the JJprise looks a mess except from above, the neck is out of proportion, the secondary hull looks wrong from pretty much every angle other than side on and the nacelles and pylons don't have the sense of 'power' that the TOS/Movie versions had. The original and refit exteriors matched the interior look and had a sense that they were designed by people working to the same rule book, the JJ one's interior looks like the bastard daughter of a brewery and NASA's mission control.
Still not a huge fan and when I saw it go down in 'Beyond' I thought FINALLY, a chance to modify the design. When I saw the build up stages of the new 'A' I thought PLEASE BRING IT BACK!!!
I feel like the hate towards "JJ's" enterprise (designed by people who are not JJ of course) is just an indicator of the intimidating standards for precision the Star Trek community seems to have. I have yet to hear anyone complain about the ships from the new Star Wars movie. Like I went to design a Federation ship for fun because I really enjoy the shape of them, and looked to see if there were any guidelines......... I mean JEGUS. Like I appreciate the basic rules of warp fields and how the engines have to be visible from the front and have 50% line of sight etc. But this ship doesn't really violate those rules. People just don't like it because it's different. I appreciate wanting to be faithful to the original, but this ISN'T THE ORIGINAL. It's a new take on the story, complete with new ships.
why do so many people hate the kelvin time line enterprise so much? I do not understand the ship is very futuristic and much more beautiful and well equipped than the enterpirse of the original series
It all boils down to taste. I still much prefer the simplicity of the TMP/TWoK/ TSFS era Enterprise refit. But, you know, each to their own, and fair play to that.
you people are aware that a lot of the complaints about the new ship and series are the very same problems that the original ship and series had and lets not forget that the original series was cancelled
Disregard my comments below! It took a while for me to warm up to the ENT and other Kelvin Timeline ships but I quite like them now! I have Eaglemoss models of ENT, Kelvin, Vengeance and Franklin.
I'm a little late to the party on this. I think this Enterprise looks great. What got my attention, having worked in aviation for a few years was the nacelle access panels being pealed off during evasive maneuvers. a nice detail.
I love the new design. I respect the fact that they have added things that wasn't available for the original series at the time. They do respect what had come before, just adding to it.
I promise myself and I’m still in school and I am still keeping my promise to myself to build Star Trek I have prepared everything to do it I rlly rlly want to make the star trek
I've had a bit of a love/hate opinion of this ship. When I very first saw her, my initial reaction was "ehh..." But, I've learned to appreciate her as time has gone on. She's no TMP Era Refit Connie, but I like her. Biggest issue I have is probably the brewery engine room, especially after seeing the concept art they originally had for that area. (If you haven't seen it, look it up, looks much more like a Star Trek engineering set) The window for the bridge is also a bit weird, along with the huge amount of lights on the bridge. Also, why does everyone hate on the Enterprise-C? I've always been quite fond of her look, the more circular layout harkens back to the Constitution and Constitution Refit.
That isn't the only thing, but it's the main one. The top view is so effing ugly! And the blue is not a futuristic color, just a boring one when you have nothing to contrast it with. Screwing up the size is another serious problem, especially when they left all or most of the details, like, the launch bay for instance, the same size in relation to each other! Meaning, that it looks like they just sorta blew it up like a balloon, rather than doing what would actually happen in that situation, which would be that most items, like phaser turrets or whatever, would be increased in number, maybe there would be two launch bays instead of one, stuff like that. Now the shit just looks like it was made for people from a place where everything is just twice as large.... geesh, I'm not even a big Star Trek fan, but this ship is just amazingly ugly and wrong to me. And I hate the curved pylons which hold the nacelles The nacelles which are too damn close together... On the up side, the new version at the end of Star Trek Beyond is quite a bit better. That one I think I like.
This would have been very good if the nacelles were not so damn big. That is such an eyesore. The shot of the open shuttle bay makes the ship look a lot smaller, like the shuttle bay takes up almost the whole secondary hull section. So far, we got a small glimpse of Enterprise on Star Trek Discovery, and that design seems way better than this.
I still don't have an answer for my biggest question about this ship: WHY ARE THE NACELLES SO CLOSE TOGETHER AND NOT SPACED OUT LIKE EVERY OTHER ENTERPRISE? SPOILER: When I first saw the new 'A' at the end of BEYOND, I turned to my friend and said "they moved the nacelles apart!" True story
The new version is incredibly much better than the old one, which to be honest looks both unrealistic and a little bit silly today. I hope the new Enterprise for the new TV-series is something completely new though.
To be honest, even the new Enterprise looks unrealistic and daft because of the thin neck and warp pylons sections. While the Enterprise may look cool and majestic, in reality, it is a very poor and inefficient design from an aero engineer perspective. Even in the 23rd Century and beyond, future starships will still need to adhere to basic engineering principles that the Enterprise design lacks. A more doable approach would to build something like the spaceship Discovery in 2001 or the Leonov in 2010.
Actually, I know quite a bit. With all due respect, none of the Enterprise designs are realistic, especially Abrams's Enterprise. As iconic as the original USS Enterprise starship design is, unfortunately, it is a poor and ridiculous design from an aero engineering perspective. It is unbalanced and front heavy. Even in space, the center of gravity is off-center, which means that once the ship turns on it's impulse engines, it will roll forward. It has no room for propellant, no rotating sections and vertical decks to provide artificial gravity, and most important of all, it has no heat radiators. Every starship, no matter how advanced must have heat radiators or it will cook up the crew and fry them to death. As you know, the Enterprise was designed by Matt Jefferies and while he knew a lot of about aviation, he did not know anything about aero engineering. In terms of a sci-fi spaceship becoming a reality, the spaceship Discovery from 2001, the spaceship Leonov from 2010, the Hyperion or Omega Destroyer from Babylon 5 is a way more realistic starship design than the Enterprise. Andromeda creator Robert Hewitt Wolfe got together with a bunch of smart individuals and set out to design a starship that had a practical standpoint from an aero engineering perspective and look aesthetically pleasing at the same time. The main hull kind of looks like a submarine. That makes sense because the narrower the hull is, the less chance of it being hit by enemy attack. As for those arching rings, they are design to distort and fold space, which is based on the Alcubierre drive theory, which is at least based on theoretical physics, unlike the warp drive in Star Trek which is based on technobabble and not real science. Also, the Andromeda is one of the very few sci-fi starships that actually has heat radiators, whereas, Star Trek ships don't have. In addition, the neck section of the Star Trek ships, particularly the original Enterprise and Enterprise A is a dangerous design element. One hit and it will break apart like a twig, shields or no shields, ditto for the warp pylons. Even the Enterprise D 's neck section, which was thicker than the previous incarnations would make the ship tumble forward at half impulse speed and would tear itself apart if it ever attempted to travel at full impulse speed, due to the center of gravity being way off balance. And lastly, the decks of the Star Trek ships were horizontal which is ridiculous. Any true starship would have their decks laid out vertically as was apparent in Andromeda's case. Hence, once our technology becomes more advanced, we will do away with rotating sections and create artificial gravity using either dark matter or micro blackholes, then we can start building something like the starship Andromeda Ascendant, which is way more realistic and far more gorgeous starship design compared to the Enterprise by a thousand fold. In addition, the upcoming Christopher Nolan's Interstellar also deals with the invention of warp drive in the most realistic fashion: Interstellar - Trailer - Official Warner Bros. UK Also, if you want to see a more realistic warp drive starship design, check out the NASA starship concept designed by NASA scientist Harold White: NASA Unveils Incredible Design for Warp Drive Spacecraft Hence, any futuristic starship by a Type 3 Civilization involves warp drive would require those rings like the Harold White starship design. Personally, I think it looks way cooler than Matt Jefferies's Enterprise starship design and you could always change the name to Enterprise! ;) So, whose word are you going to take, an art director or a NASA scientist?
Gotta wonder if it was part of the design for this new Enterprise to get its ass kicked in battle all the time. Original E could easily take this new one re: weapons and shields and basic durability. KnightInExile you make quite a good point about the ships' center of gravity being off-center. I know this is all just fan speculation all in fun, but to play devil's advocate, we might rationalize it two ways. First, we don't know the mass of certain exotic materials in a starship's structure, for example dilithium crystals or transparent aluminum or neutronium . So the center of gravity could be anywhere some hack writer (or hack movie director) needs it to be. Second, the Enterprise has all kinds of anti-gravity, artificial gravity and anti-inertia fields going on all over the place, which would make it's physical center of gravity a moot point. Remember the Enterprise goes from zero to warp speed in less than a minute without ripping itself apart or squishing the crew to jelly. BTW, I love Harold White's design. It's just something sexy and realistic about ring ships. My favorite realistic sci-fi ship is The Discovery from 2001 a Space Odyssey. Granted, technically the Discovery isn't a starship, but it actually looks like something that could take us to Mars or Jupiter.
Thank you for your comments. :) In regards to your view on the plausibility of the Enterprise design, well, it is a fictional (fantasy) design, so for fantasy it's fine, but in reality, no engineer in their right mind would design a starship comprising of two secondary hulls being interconnected with a neck section that will undoubtedly break off once maximum acceleration is achieved. It would be much better to have a starship consisting of one hull, that way, the starship will be nicely balanced and centered. Also, I completely agree with you that the Discovery is a more realistic and cooler spaceship design. Ditto for the Leonov. And yes, those spaceships are designed for interplanetary travel, however, as our technology advances, we will eventually build starships like the Andromeda Ascendant and constructing a network of wormholes to make interstellar travel possible. :)
There are SOME aspects of this design I like but what puts me off the most is the shape of the secondary hull and how close the nacelles are together. ILM should have stuck with the idea that was MEANT to be a little bit bigger the 1701(-A) Refit Enterprise and not the huge monstrosity J.J. Abrams said for them to change it to. I also have never been keen about the bussard collectors being blue and not the original orange / red. Edit: I also agree that the fact she was built in Iowa on Earth is rather stupid...
I would hate to serve on a ship this huge with such limited windows to look out of. Even the original Enterprise looks like it had more. The only reason it was made so huge was to stroke JJ's ego of seeing the shuttle bay be larger than it needs to be to fit the ridiculous amount of shuttles. Doesn't the Enterprise have transporters to beam the crew aboard? The ILM designers has places it at 366m originally which would have been fine. Sorry if I'm a salty dog but I want my prime universe Trek back. JJ's movies are fun for the big screen but how long can they go on really.?
LOL are you saying they didint stick with having transporters in the re boot movies in the 09 Enterprise? XD hahahaha I dont think they would be that stupid to not have transporters on the 09 enterprise. I mean they do have those its just the transporter effects are slightly different.
To be honest the makers really should've thought their scaling mantra, to built one ship 'by the human hand' the size of the Enterprise-D would take absolutely AGES, so how would the Federation manage to get hold of a whole fleet? Different ships, different sizes I know but the USS Vengeance is TWICE the size of this Enterprise.
1,500 foot ship is 762meters not 366 meters like the size of the uss voyager which is 345meters. so the uss enterprise from the kelvin timeline is bigger than the galaxy class and sovereign class and more than 2x the size of the original uss enterprise which was 288 meters . im a big fan of the j.j abrams star trek i watch it all the time.
Still like the original much better. Looks more real. The nacelles for one, I can't imagine something that size will have fancy shapes similar to a silly fiberglass body kit someone would put on a Honda.
Okay, I am getting MORE than sick of this crap. JJ honours Star Trek with the only real differences is doubling the punchlines, tripling the action and centupling the lens flare. Star Trek is about hope for starters. At the end, we don't see the Vulcans becoming a nomadic society, but finding a home suitable for them. Earth is not in despair, nor is Earth facing extinction, and everyone not only counted their blessings, but found themselves stronger than before. Star Trek is about the idea that we can all be better, like how Kirk and Spock going from not really liking each other to finding a common ground which then mutual respect emerged which then leads to friendship. There was this publicized criticism about how this Star Trek could have touched more on issues like racial tolerance, yet they all seemed to have missed the segments, segments PLURAL, on how Spock was a victim of bigotry and how it shaped his life. Plus on how the tragedy of Vulcan allowed him to accept his other half. None of these points are forced, they are what you see IF you can get past the lens flare which is as easy as falling off a log. Another that makes Star Trek what it is is the idea of exploration. Guess what? Alternate reality where we DON'T know what's going to happen, so now we have to explore. And the ludicrous idea that they got everyone wrong on this movie? I've seen these arguments before and like ALL of them, the don't hold up. In fact, they have less integrity than wet toilet paper. Kirk being self-absorbed, impulsive and arrogant, that means they screwed up by basing JJ's Kirk on James T. Kirk, Captain of the Enterprise. Spock being so emotional, yet forgetting (some ignore in a desperate attempt to destroy JJ's Star Trek) numerous items such as Vulcan's having a more volatile temperament and Spock indeed showed emotions. Adding the fact knowing how sensing the death of 400 Vulcans AUs away affected him, did it occur to anyone about sensing the deaths of 6 billion Vulcans only thousands of kilometres away plus witnessing the death of his mother? The only person who truly accepted him for who he is? And what rule says Spock and Uhura cannot be together? I'm not talking about how in an alternate reality Worf and Deanna were married (didn't think of it till now), I'm talking about even going back to The Man Trap where Uhura envisioned a romantic walk under the Vulcan moon. Which Spock of course replied "Vulcan has no moon". It seems as though that if anyone who didn't do their research, it was the haters. What about Delta Vega being so bloody close to Vulcan? Did it occur to anyone that the name Delta Vega was given to the planet T'Khut, Vulcan's Trojan planet? But bottom line is that the movie isn't dumb down, but JJ actually overestimated the intelligence of the audience, especially the haters.
First off I would like to praise all the people who worked many hours to create the 09 Enterprise. Their craftsmanship is top notch & that they truly deserve respectful & constructive criticism other then it looks like a flying turkey. Personally I like the overall aesthetic of the (09) design. I like the fact that they incorporated movable features and so on, I'm not to excited though about the warp nacelle section of the ship. In my humble opinion they seem to be over scaled and have a odd shape but in all fairness they where going for a hot rod like look which would explain the size of them. Regardless if you hate it or love it, you know at some point it will be destroyed and rebuilt once again! Like always merchandising seems to dictate why there are so many variations of the USS Enterprises out there!
Just like the new movies, this ship is aesthetically unappealing and all over the map to me. Its design is nowhere as beautiful as the refitted Constitution class its trying to emulate. You did not design this ship, you stole design aspects from the REAL Enterprise and then tweaked it into this monstrosity. I will say that I like the new shuttle craft they designed and the USS Kelvin looks a lot better too. They could have done so much better, but that's not JJ's mindset, is it? Lots of explosions, CGI, and brainless action. You people turned Star Trek into star wars but worse -Gene is rolling in his grave! To all of you fans and non-fans that like these crappy movies, you missed the point of Star Trek to begin with. Its about hope, its about the idea that we can all be better. I don't see that here. Kirk is a man child, Spock has girlfriend issues (really JJ?), Sulu and Chekov are stereo-typically generic characters, and Carol Marcus is a whore. I'd go into the others but it hurts too much. I will say that the actor playing Bones does a pretty good impersonation of Deforest, so they nailed him. But yeah that's about it. OK, nerd rant over. :)
Their reasoning is flakey here. a) a ship like this would be built in orbit from sections sourced from zero-g fab facilities througout the solar system, not in a ****ing Iowa wheatfield. b) most of the work would be done by robotic systems, thus eliminating the sort of major imperfections they speak of. It's a nice-looking ship inside, a low-tech mess inside due to Abrams' insistence on using real sets which looked more like a brewery or milk pasteurising plant than a starship. The next movie is supposed to be set during the five-year-mission, with a different director, so it might be better, but I'm not holding my breath.
What I don’t like about it is that it doesn’t look like it was built and designed by future space agency. But rather by a sports car company, as described. But I like the sounds.
My biggest issue with this design is the size, it´s stupidly big and completely out of proportion! Sure, the nacelles are too big and too close together but all in all I prefer the modernized shape over the boring outdated straight ones of the TOS Enterprise. Also the lower hull is shaped weird and too thin, but I didn´t really notice that in the movies except for a few angles. All in all I like the design a lot better than the TOS one and especially like that new harpoon like looking Enterprise-A which looks like a completely new ship class!
Its funny how JJ Abrams knew people hated the new enterprise so at the end if beyond he tried to SMASH both the new and old enterprise into the original ship like WTF it was a mistake he should of kept the new design because the new enterprise does not fit in anymore it looks like the ship was striped the ship for parts they removed the top of the nancels and made smaller Um 😤😂
With all due Respect to Alex Jaeger who is an incredible designer and I know did not have the final call on this design and was only following his superiors-the J.J prise looks terribly unbalanced, Just plane goofy not a "hot rod"!!! The clownish balloon nacelles are silly, they are too close together and way to far forward on the support pylons. And the position of the connecting dorsal and secondary (engineering) hull is way to far back. And the ridiculous 2300'+ size makes it bigger than TNG Enterprise -D which is 100 years more advanced, plus the red signature bussard collectors being blue is just plan stupid! Worst Enterprise design ever!!!
The Star Trek Beyond Enterprise-A is the best. This design though is just overall sucks. Too much of a hot rod design. The huge nacelles that are too close to each other and I could never like the shape of the secondary hull. Although the Beyond Enterprise-A fixed it a bit better but it's just still off... I also HATE the blue bussard collectors. I wish the idiot Jar Jar Abrams... I mean J.J. Abrams had kept the original concept from Ryan Church of those.
JJ Abrams needs to do a complete redesign of the ships hes presenting and drop this atrocious attempt at going for an industrial look, it simply does not work and seriously takes away from the genra.like the enterprise, why in the world would he make it look like the original deflector dish was chopped rt blown off and that monstrosity for a dish bolted in it's place????And in into darkness, that monstrosity they call a dreadnaught, that has to be the ugliest most badly though out, looks like it was patched together from ships from other sci fi genras I have ever seen.The acting is good, movie music is spot on and I like it, but if JJ Abrams wants to keep fans like me and the millions like me he had better drop this industrial designs altogether and gt back to the basics, stop using industrial manufacturing plants for ships interiors and build proper sets and make his ship designs much smoother and more symmetrical, not this bolted together looking crap from other ships scrap parts he's designing.
Whatever, a star ship MUST have a centralized, symmetrical interior design simply for smooth functionality to begin with, this industrial plant, all over the place with pipes in the way simply cannot work well or smoothly specially in combat where people have to get from control panel to control paned quickly and without having to run across a room and dodge around several pipes and other equipment to get to another panel that SHOULD be in easy reach.
Easy - one word: CARTOONISH!!! It is too cartoonish! It would be great for a cartoon - Spock with too long ears, Ulhura with too long legs and big boobs, McCoy with overly arched eyebrows, etc. But for a real life movie it is simply interpreted as disrespect.
Im so fun of startrek but this I dont see any futuristic because it copies the original.Why ships cant be evolved and got more better warrior designs.Dissatisfied.
+Estevan Guzman As ive commented below ,the rest new design is okey,,but circular desk is I think should go.Why so circular if it represents earth then earth is oblique spheroid not round.
cool, functional, futuristic... ok cool but instead you made something comepletely different. A Hot Rod, really?? A disproportional ship twice the size of a constitution class. totally unfaithful to source material. Man you guys screwed up. Really, shame on you.
The fact is it's the size of the Enterprise - D, a starship with a thousand people+ capacity, with limited windows on the outer hull meaning a HELL of a lot of walking space on board
Dan Robinson not to mention the unnecessarily deep empty shaft incorporated into center of saucer section just for watching crew members fall into and die during crisis situation
Y'know what your fuck you you whiny entitled little cry baby the new enterprise looks better because it actually looks like a fucking futuristic space ship as appose to a cardboard model, you want the old enterprise? then fuck off and go watch TOS on Blu ray no is stopping you.
Dont get me wrong on this. As much as i like the 09 reboot enterprise its just that when i heard someone in this vid say that something on the 60s enterprise the Matt Jefferies enterprise never did anything not only angers me but puts my respect for the new 09 enterprise to shame aswell.
The visual style of the ships and thier interiors in JJ Trek is a DESIGN FAILURE! Not just the ENT -- Kelvin and other 2009 ships had cigars for nacelles! I hope one day JJ Trek is as forgotten as the Animated Series!
These guys should never have been allowed to design a new Enterprise. So much of what they are saying in this video and the ideas they say they came up with just make me shake my head in disbelief. They ended up designing one ugly caricature of the Enterprise.
On right all of you are the reson y does it even matter seriously you complained for a newer look now you're complain that's it is new 1 word you are dum assho
I know a lot of people dislike this ship. But we should at least respect the amount of time and love that went in to making it
No. lol. but seriously... no. I remember going to see whatever movie it was just to watch the teaser trailer... I remember yelling that's the wrong font and left.
No, we should not. It's an abomination.
My favorite Enterprise by far!! I don't care how much hate I get! It just looks great! The nacelles actually look like they can pack a punch!
And before I get blasted or not "understating" Star Trek, I love the original movies and shows as well! People just have to accept it isn't the same Star Trek.
Tyler Needham same, it looks beautiful
Glad I'm not the only one here who like the design.
The design is my enterprise the first one I saw
I honestly don’t find it ugly. I don’t like JJ Star Trek but I think the Enterprise looks awesome in it. Now the Enterprise J and Beyond Enterprise A those are an eye sore to me
I was initially disappointed with it as it wasn't a true reflection of the original series enterprise, considering it was supposed to be the original time line, anyhow I too fell in love with it and very much liked that they flatted out under the primary hull; always thought the concave profile was daft and a waste of space
Why does everyone hate on the new Enterprise? I mean don't get me wrong, the original Enterprise look futuristic for its time, so can't we be thankful that this one looks futuristic for its time
The warp engines are too close together
It's ugly, the original (telly) and the refit were aesthetically pleasing from pretty much any sight line while the JJprise looks a mess except from above, the neck is out of proportion, the secondary hull looks wrong from pretty much every angle other than side on and the nacelles and pylons don't have the sense of 'power' that the TOS/Movie versions had. The original and refit exteriors matched the interior look and had a sense that they were designed by people working to the same rule book, the JJ one's interior looks like the bastard daughter of a brewery and NASA's mission control.
***** Many do, but personally I don't, which is all to the good because if we all liked the same then the world would be a very boring place.
It's a clunker. The newer one sucks even more.
because many are still living in 1982
The first Movie Enterprise had the best Design!
Or should i say...a timeless design!
I was unimpressed at first, but this design really grew on me. I wish they'd kept it.
Darrin Bell they did
Still not a huge fan and when I saw it go down in 'Beyond' I thought FINALLY, a chance to modify the design. When I saw the build up stages of the new 'A' I thought PLEASE BRING IT BACK!!!
Darrin Bell they kept it
I feel like the hate towards "JJ's" enterprise (designed by people who are not JJ of course) is just an indicator of the intimidating standards for precision the Star Trek community seems to have. I have yet to hear anyone complain about the ships from the new Star Wars movie.
Like I went to design a Federation ship for fun because I really enjoy the shape of them, and looked to see if there were any guidelines.........
I mean JEGUS. Like I appreciate the basic rules of warp fields and how the engines have to be visible from the front and have 50% line of sight etc. But this ship doesn't really violate those rules. People just don't like it because it's different. I appreciate wanting to be faithful to the original, but this ISN'T THE ORIGINAL. It's a new take on the story, complete with new ships.
Love this design!
why do so many people hate the kelvin time line enterprise so much? I do not understand the ship is very futuristic and much more beautiful and well equipped than the enterpirse of the original series
Isn't the enterprise already futuristic to begin with? I get what you mean though
It all boils down to taste. I still much prefer the simplicity of the TMP/TWoK/ TSFS era Enterprise refit. But, you know, each to their own, and fair play to that.
you people are aware that a lot of the complaints about the new ship and series are the very same problems that the original ship and series had and lets not forget that the original series was cancelled
I love the design. Especially the vengeance!
all the other federation ships looked more old trek then the enterprise lol
The cuz the enterprise was their new flagship
In the movie
i know but i was not a fan of it loved the new movies just did not like the enterpise John Brogan
I know Im kind of randomly asking but do anybody know a good website to watch newly released movies online ?
@Arlo Francis I would suggest FlixZone. You can find it on google =)
It looks effing great
A great redesign! She's definitely worthy to bear the name Enterprise!
Fun fact: this movie and the Star Trek Kelvin timeline film series resurrected the Star Trek franchise
yep as someone who rewatched al previous after seeing the 2009 version first
I love the new Enterprise I love the old Enterprise I love all Enterprises except the NCC 1701-C xD
I'm on right I like all but j
J is shit
And c and d are fucking dam nice ship
yeah J is the worse
Disregard my comments below! It took a while for me to warm up to the ENT and other Kelvin Timeline ships but I quite like them now! I have Eaglemoss models of ENT, Kelvin, Vengeance and Franklin.
I want that light up model in the background
Inside it look more like a WW2 battleship then a moden starship with all those pipes and tubes, the bridge is nice tho
Is she my favorite Enterprise? No, not really. But she's definitely an impressive design, and the care that the designers put in is impressive.
I'm a little late to the party on this. I think this Enterprise looks great. What got my attention, having worked in aviation for a few years was the nacelle access panels being pealed off during evasive maneuvers. a nice detail.
This guys know that good greebling makes good ships.
U do know that that ship is in the kelvin time line right
All the changes were for legal changes, not for creative decisions. Yet… it works.
I love the new design. I respect the fact that they have added things that wasn't available for the original series at the time. They do respect what had come before, just adding to it.
Best Enterprise yet, it's simply beautiful.
I promise myself and I’m still in school and I am still keeping my promise to myself to build Star Trek I have prepared everything to do it I rlly rlly want to make the star trek
This Enterprise is MY Enterprise my first Star Trek film was 2009 loved its much more hefty than the Original but also love its Nachelles as well
I've had a bit of a love/hate opinion of this ship. When I very first saw her, my initial reaction was "ehh..." But, I've learned to appreciate her as time has gone on. She's no TMP Era Refit Connie, but I like her. Biggest issue I have is probably the brewery engine room, especially after seeing the concept art they originally had for that area. (If you haven't seen it, look it up, looks much more like a Star Trek engineering set) The window for the bridge is also a bit weird, along with the huge amount of lights on the bridge.
Also, why does everyone hate on the Enterprise-C? I've always been quite fond of her look, the more circular layout harkens back to the Constitution and Constitution Refit.
They just got the proprtions wrong between the saucer (too big), hull (too small), und nacelles (too big).
No such thing as getting something wrong that is essentially a new design.
That isn't the only thing, but it's the main one. The top view is so effing ugly! And the blue is not a futuristic color, just a boring one when you have nothing to contrast it with. Screwing up the size is another serious problem, especially when they left all or most of the details, like, the launch bay for instance, the same size in relation to each other! Meaning, that it looks like they just sorta blew it up like a balloon, rather than doing what would actually happen in that situation, which would be that most items, like phaser turrets or whatever, would be increased in number, maybe there would be two launch bays instead of one, stuff like that. Now the shit just looks like it was made for people from a place where everything is just twice as large....
geesh, I'm not even a big Star Trek fan, but this ship is just amazingly ugly and wrong to me.
And I hate the curved pylons which hold the nacelles The nacelles which are too damn close together...
On the up side, the new version at the end of Star Trek Beyond is quite a bit better. That one I think I like.
Much like a clown car.
@@JimMcCray ugh no
Perfectly proportioned. Big powerful nacelles and a wide and futuristic saucer section
So many people are bashing on this ship. I don't care what anyone says; I think she looks quite nice.
This would have been very good if the nacelles were not so damn big. That is such an eyesore. The shot of the open shuttle bay makes the ship look a lot smaller, like the shuttle bay takes up almost the whole secondary hull section. So far, we got a small glimpse of Enterprise on Star Trek Discovery, and that design seems way better than this.
new Enterprise doesn't look that bad. of course the Original is better but I do like the fact they made it twice as big.
Only now it’s bigger than a Galaxy Class…
This is beautiful ngl
Was this on the DVD or is it Bluray? I only have the DVD version.
So many people crying over an animated ship ahah calm down it looks fine
JJprise vs Discoprise?
To be honest I like JJprise better, it looks cooler to me but as a kid I loved all version of the Enterprise.
Why is it so circle?It looks like a doughnut and the base is so narrow.The rest are okey.
I still don't have an answer for my biggest question about this ship: WHY ARE THE NACELLES SO CLOSE TOGETHER AND NOT SPACED OUT LIKE EVERY OTHER ENTERPRISE?
SPOILER: When I first saw the new 'A' at the end of BEYOND, I turned to my friend and said "they moved the nacelles apart!" True story
On right same for original series nx 1701 a to e j suks that's my only problem
It's a fucking pancake
The new version is incredibly much better than the old one, which to be honest looks both unrealistic and a little bit silly today.
I hope the new Enterprise for the new TV-series is something completely new though.
To be honest, even the new Enterprise looks unrealistic and daft because of the thin neck and warp pylons sections. While the Enterprise may look cool and majestic, in reality, it is a very poor and inefficient design from an aero engineer perspective. Even in the 23rd Century and beyond, future starships will still need to adhere to basic engineering principles that the Enterprise design lacks. A more doable approach would to build something like the spaceship Discovery in 2001 or the Leonov in 2010.
Showing how little you know. The original Enterprise is actually a practical design for a ship of space.
Actually, I know quite a bit. With all due respect, none of the Enterprise designs are realistic, especially Abrams's Enterprise. As iconic as the original USS Enterprise starship design is, unfortunately, it is a poor and ridiculous design from an aero engineering perspective. It is unbalanced and front heavy. Even in space, the center of gravity is off-center, which means that once the ship turns on it's impulse engines, it will roll forward. It has no room for propellant, no rotating sections and vertical decks to provide artificial gravity, and most important of all, it has no heat radiators. Every starship, no matter how advanced must have heat radiators or it will cook up the crew and fry them to death. As you know, the Enterprise was designed by Matt Jefferies and while he knew a lot of about aviation, he did not know anything about aero engineering. In terms of a sci-fi spaceship becoming a reality, the spaceship Discovery from 2001, the spaceship Leonov from 2010, the Hyperion or Omega Destroyer from Babylon 5 is a way more realistic starship design than the Enterprise.
Andromeda creator Robert Hewitt Wolfe got together with a bunch of smart individuals and set out to design a starship that had a practical standpoint from an aero engineering perspective and look aesthetically pleasing at the same time. The main hull kind of looks like a submarine. That makes sense because the narrower the hull is, the less chance of it being hit by enemy attack. As for those arching rings, they are design to distort and fold space, which is based on the Alcubierre drive theory, which is at least based on theoretical physics, unlike the warp drive in Star Trek which is based on technobabble and not real science. Also, the Andromeda is one of the very few sci-fi starships that actually has heat radiators, whereas, Star Trek ships don't have. In addition, the neck section of the Star Trek ships, particularly the original Enterprise and Enterprise A is a dangerous design element. One hit and it will break apart like a twig, shields or no shields, ditto for the warp pylons. Even the Enterprise D 's neck section, which was thicker than the previous incarnations would make the ship tumble forward at half impulse speed and would tear itself apart if it ever attempted to travel at full impulse speed, due to the center of gravity being way off balance. And lastly, the decks of the Star Trek ships were horizontal which is ridiculous. Any true starship would have their decks laid out vertically as was apparent in Andromeda's case. Hence, once our technology becomes more advanced, we will do away with rotating sections and create artificial gravity using either dark matter or micro blackholes, then we can start building something like the starship Andromeda Ascendant, which is way more realistic and far more gorgeous starship design compared to the Enterprise by a thousand fold.
In addition, the upcoming Christopher Nolan's Interstellar also deals with the invention of warp drive in the most realistic fashion:
Interstellar - Trailer - Official Warner Bros. UK
Also, if you want to see a more realistic warp drive starship design, check out the NASA starship concept designed by NASA scientist Harold White:
NASA Unveils Incredible Design for Warp Drive Spacecraft
Hence, any futuristic starship by a Type 3 Civilization involves warp drive would require those rings like the Harold White starship design. Personally, I think it looks way cooler than Matt Jefferies's Enterprise starship design and you could always change the name to Enterprise! ;) So, whose word are you going to take, an art director or a NASA scientist?
Gotta wonder if it was part of the design for this new Enterprise to get its ass kicked in battle all the time. Original E could easily take this new one re: weapons and shields and basic durability. KnightInExile you make quite a good point about the ships' center of gravity being off-center. I know this is all just fan speculation all in fun, but to play devil's advocate, we might rationalize it two ways. First, we don't know the mass of certain exotic materials in a starship's structure, for example dilithium crystals or transparent aluminum or neutronium . So the center of gravity could be anywhere some hack writer (or hack movie director) needs it to be. Second, the Enterprise has all kinds of anti-gravity, artificial gravity and anti-inertia fields going on all over the place, which would make it's physical center of gravity a moot point. Remember the Enterprise goes from zero to warp speed in less than a minute without ripping itself apart or squishing the crew to jelly.
BTW, I love Harold White's design. It's just something sexy and realistic about ring ships. My favorite realistic sci-fi ship is The Discovery from 2001 a Space Odyssey. Granted, technically the Discovery isn't a starship, but it actually looks like something that could take us to Mars or Jupiter.
Thank you for your comments. :) In regards to your view on the plausibility of the Enterprise design, well, it is a fictional (fantasy) design, so for fantasy it's fine, but in reality, no engineer in their right mind would design a starship comprising of two secondary hulls being interconnected with a neck section that will undoubtedly break off once maximum acceleration is achieved. It would be much better to have a starship consisting of one hull, that way, the starship will be nicely balanced and centered.
Also, I completely agree with you that the Discovery is a more realistic and cooler spaceship design. Ditto for the Leonov. And yes, those spaceships are designed for interplanetary travel, however, as our technology advances, we will eventually build starships like the Andromeda Ascendant and constructing a network of wormholes to make interstellar travel possible. :)
Beautiful
its a lovely ship.... great sci-fi films, but its not Trek. JJ Enterprise looks like a diff refit
0:12 what it should have looked like
I really love the new design
There are SOME aspects of this design I like but what puts me off the most is the shape of the secondary hull and how close the nacelles are together.
ILM should have stuck with the idea that was MEANT to be a little bit bigger the 1701(-A) Refit Enterprise and not the huge monstrosity J.J. Abrams said for them to change it to.
I also have never been keen about the bussard collectors being blue and not the original orange / red.
Edit: I also agree that the fact she was built in Iowa on Earth is rather stupid...
I would hate to serve on a ship this huge with such limited windows to look out of. Even the original Enterprise looks like it had more. The only reason it was made so huge was to stroke JJ's ego of seeing the shuttle bay be larger than it needs to be to fit the ridiculous amount of shuttles. Doesn't the Enterprise have transporters to beam the crew aboard? The ILM designers has places it at 366m originally which would have been fine. Sorry if I'm a salty dog but I want my prime universe Trek back. JJ's movies are fun for the big screen but how long can they go on really.?
LOL are you saying they didint stick with having transporters in the re boot movies in the 09 Enterprise? XD hahahaha I dont think they would be that stupid to not have transporters on the 09 enterprise. I mean they do have those its just the transporter effects are slightly different.
To be honest the makers really should've thought their scaling mantra, to built one ship 'by the human hand' the size of the Enterprise-D would take absolutely AGES, so how would the Federation manage to get hold of a whole fleet? Different ships, different sizes I know but the USS Vengeance is TWICE the size of this Enterprise.
The saucer section is to far back. Other than that it's not bad. Better than the Enterprise A from Star trek Beyond.
1,500 foot ship is 762meters not 366 meters like the size of the uss voyager which is 345meters. so the uss enterprise from the kelvin timeline is bigger than the galaxy class and sovereign class and more than 2x the size of the original uss enterprise which was 288 meters . im a big fan of the j.j abrams star trek i watch it all the time.
Looks like a Honda
It’s just a shame it looks like a brewery on the inside.
Still like the original much better. Looks more real. The nacelles for one, I can't imagine something that size will have fancy shapes similar to a silly fiberglass body kit someone would put on a Honda.
the wait original nacelles are better ? x)) two pencils taped on a marker(2nd hull) with a stick in between haha
It looks like an old cardbord toy
Me niego a aceptar el tamaño del JJPRISE.
sigh... i still think it looks like a thanksgiving turkey
Okay, I am getting MORE than sick of this crap.
JJ honours Star Trek with the only real differences is doubling the punchlines, tripling the action and centupling the lens flare.
Star Trek is about hope for starters. At the end, we don't see the Vulcans becoming a nomadic society, but finding a home suitable for them. Earth is not in despair, nor is Earth facing extinction, and everyone not only counted their blessings, but found themselves stronger than before.
Star Trek is about the idea that we can all be better, like how Kirk and Spock going from not really liking each other to finding a common ground which then mutual respect emerged which then leads to friendship.
There was this publicized criticism about how this Star Trek could have touched more on issues like racial tolerance, yet they all seemed to have missed the segments, segments PLURAL, on how Spock was a victim of bigotry and how it shaped his life. Plus on how the tragedy of Vulcan allowed him to accept his other half.
None of these points are forced, they are what you see IF you can get past the lens flare which is as easy as falling off a log.
Another that makes Star Trek what it is is the idea of exploration. Guess what? Alternate reality where we DON'T know what's going to happen, so now we have to explore.
And the ludicrous idea that they got everyone wrong on this movie? I've seen these arguments before and like ALL of them, the don't hold up. In fact, they have less integrity than wet toilet paper. Kirk being self-absorbed, impulsive and arrogant, that means they screwed up by basing JJ's Kirk on James T. Kirk, Captain of the Enterprise.
Spock being so emotional, yet forgetting (some ignore in a desperate attempt to destroy JJ's Star Trek) numerous items such as Vulcan's having a more volatile temperament and Spock indeed showed emotions. Adding the fact knowing how sensing the death of 400 Vulcans AUs away affected him, did it occur to anyone about sensing the deaths of 6 billion Vulcans only thousands of kilometres away plus witnessing the death of his mother? The only person who truly accepted him for who he is?
And what rule says Spock and Uhura cannot be together? I'm not talking about how in an alternate reality Worf and Deanna were married (didn't think of it till now), I'm talking about even going back to The Man Trap where Uhura envisioned a romantic walk under the Vulcan moon. Which Spock of course replied "Vulcan has no moon".
It seems as though that if anyone who didn't do their research, it was the haters. What about Delta Vega being so bloody close to Vulcan? Did it occur to anyone that the name Delta Vega was given to the planet T'Khut, Vulcan's Trojan planet?
But bottom line is that the movie isn't dumb down, but JJ actually overestimated the intelligence of the audience, especially the haters.
Potrimpo Stop lying to yourself. If youve ever watched Ds9, you should know what an intelligent good Star Trek is.
I love to sit on the captains chair of that ship
It's like a chavved up ford fiesta with a cheap body kit.
First off I would like to praise all the people who worked many hours to create the 09 Enterprise. Their craftsmanship is top notch & that they truly deserve respectful & constructive criticism other then it looks like a flying turkey. Personally I like the overall aesthetic of the (09) design. I like the fact that they incorporated movable features and so on, I'm not to excited though about the warp nacelle section of the ship. In my humble opinion they seem to be over scaled and have a odd shape but in all fairness they where going for a hot rod like look which would explain the size of them. Regardless if you hate it or love it, you know at some point it will be destroyed and rebuilt once again! Like always merchandising seems to dictate why there are so many variations of the USS Enterprises out there!
um yea Do you also include Ryan Church? the man that came up with the design for this enterprise?
The Anti-Enterprise is more like it
Just like the new movies, this ship is aesthetically unappealing and all over the map to me. Its design is nowhere as beautiful as the refitted Constitution class its trying to emulate. You did not design this ship, you stole design aspects from the REAL Enterprise and then tweaked it into this monstrosity. I will say that I like the new shuttle craft they designed and the USS Kelvin looks a lot better too. They could have done so much better, but that's not JJ's mindset, is it? Lots of explosions, CGI, and brainless action. You people turned Star Trek into star wars but worse -Gene is rolling in his grave!
To all of you fans and non-fans that like these crappy movies, you missed the point of Star Trek to begin with. Its about hope, its about the idea that we can all be better. I don't see that here. Kirk is a man child, Spock has girlfriend issues (really JJ?), Sulu and Chekov are stereo-typically generic characters, and Carol Marcus is a whore. I'd go into the others but it hurts too much. I will say that the actor playing Bones does a pretty good impersonation of Deforest, so they nailed him. But yeah that's about it. OK, nerd rant over. :)
Probert, Drexler, Krause? Okuda? Nope? Oops
The Gabriel Koerner version looked much, MUCH better.
Nah, the Koerner one looked like a cheap plastic toy that you can buy from companies who don´t have the license to make the originals!
Suks on right
Agreed.
Their reasoning is flakey here. a) a ship like this would be built in orbit from sections sourced from zero-g fab facilities througout the solar system, not in a ****ing Iowa wheatfield. b) most of the work would be done by robotic systems, thus eliminating the sort of major imperfections they speak of. It's a nice-looking ship inside, a low-tech mess inside due to Abrams' insistence on using real sets which looked more like a brewery or milk pasteurising plant than a starship. The next movie is supposed to be set during the five-year-mission, with a different director, so it might be better, but I'm not holding my breath.
The nacelles are the dumbest things. They are too fat!
What I don’t like about it is that it doesn’t look like it was built and designed by future space agency. But rather by a sports car company, as described. But I like the sounds.
My biggest issue with this design is the size, it´s stupidly big and completely out of proportion!
Sure, the nacelles are too big and too close together but all in all I prefer the modernized shape over the boring outdated straight ones of the TOS Enterprise.
Also the lower hull is shaped weird and too thin,
but I didn´t really notice that in the movies except for a few angles.
All in all I like the design a lot better than the TOS one and especially like that new harpoon like looking Enterprise-A which looks like a completely new ship class!
Its funny how JJ Abrams knew people hated the new enterprise so at the end if beyond he tried to SMASH both the new and old enterprise into the original ship like WTF it was a mistake he should of kept the new design because the new enterprise does not fit in anymore it looks like the ship was striped the ship for parts they removed the top of the nancels and made smaller Um 😤😂
Blaming creators for doing Damage Control because you complained and still complaing about them doing Damage Control.
With all due Respect to Alex Jaeger who is an incredible designer and I know did not have the final call on this design and was only following his superiors-the J.J prise looks terribly unbalanced, Just plane goofy not a "hot rod"!!!
The clownish balloon nacelles are silly, they are too close together and way to far forward on the support pylons. And the position of the connecting dorsal and secondary (engineering) hull is way to far back. And the ridiculous 2300'+ size makes it bigger than TNG Enterprise -D which is 100 years more advanced, plus the red signature bussard collectors being blue is just plan stupid! Worst Enterprise design ever!!!
The Star Trek Beyond Enterprise-A is the best. This design though is just overall sucks. Too much of a hot rod design. The huge nacelles that are too close to each other and I could never like the shape of the secondary hull. Although the Beyond Enterprise-A fixed it a bit better but it's just still off...
I also HATE the blue bussard collectors. I wish the idiot Jar Jar Abrams... I mean J.J. Abrams had kept the original concept from Ryan Church of those.
And now we know how NOT to design the Enterprise. Thank you.
I'm on the right no I like the design I actually made a kilvin ship out of the tos t6 on sto
yeah Enterprise J is how NOT The Kelvinverse Enterprise actually resembles its canon counterpart.
JJ Abrams needs to do a complete redesign of the ships hes presenting and drop this atrocious attempt at going for an industrial look, it simply does not work and seriously takes away from the genra.like the enterprise, why in the world would he make it look like the original deflector dish was chopped rt blown off and that monstrosity for a dish bolted in it's place????And in into darkness, that monstrosity they call a dreadnaught, that has to be the ugliest most badly though out, looks like it was patched together from ships from other sci fi genras I have ever seen.The acting is good, movie music is spot on and I like it, but if JJ Abrams wants to keep fans like me and the millions like me he had better drop this industrial designs altogether and gt back to the basics, stop using industrial manufacturing plants for ships interiors and build proper sets and make his ship designs much smoother and more symmetrical, not this bolted together looking crap from other ships scrap parts he's designing.
Um Ryan Church originaly came up with the design in the first place though. If you want it re designed then Ryan Church is the man that should do it.
Whatever, a star ship MUST have a centralized, symmetrical interior design simply for smooth functionality to begin with, this industrial plant, all over the place with pipes in the way simply cannot work well or smoothly specially in combat where people have to get from control panel to control paned quickly and without having to run across a room and dodge around several pipes and other equipment to get to another panel that SHOULD be in easy reach.
Easy - one word: CARTOONISH!!!
It is too cartoonish!
It would be great for a cartoon - Spock with too long ears, Ulhura with too long legs and big boobs, McCoy with overly arched eyebrows, etc. But for a real life movie it is simply interpreted as disrespect.
Im so fun of startrek but this I dont see any futuristic because it copies the original.Why ships cant be evolved and got more better warrior designs.Dissatisfied.
Well the Enterprise is supposed to be a peaceful ship of exploration with weapons for defense. The Klingons have more of a warrior design.
+Estevan Guzman As ive commented below ,the rest new design is okey,,but circular desk is I think should go.Why so circular if it represents earth then earth is oblique spheroid not round.
I'd rather the kilvin prise be j then the fucking pancake
The JJ one didnt have a Traditional Engineering!
No "Real" Warpcore,....
cool, functional, futuristic... ok cool but instead you made something comepletely different. A Hot Rod, really?? A disproportional ship twice the size of a constitution class. totally unfaithful to source material. Man you guys screwed up. Really, shame on you.
The fact is it's the size of the Enterprise - D, a starship with a thousand people+ capacity, with limited windows on the outer hull meaning a HELL of a lot of walking space on board
Dan Robinson not to mention the unnecessarily deep empty shaft incorporated into center of saucer section just for watching crew members fall into and die during crisis situation
Yeah a hot rod, it's in the future it's gotta look futuristic
that 60s design is boring
The messed up Enterprise :(
Y'know what your fuck you you whiny entitled little cry baby the new enterprise looks better because it actually looks like a fucking futuristic space ship as appose to a cardboard model, you want the old enterprise? then fuck off and go watch TOS on Blu ray no is stopping you.
First of all calm down second of all that's his opinion not yours
+Alliance Gamer first off don't get me wrong I like the new enterprise, but the original enterprise looked futuristic for its time
I know right?!
Dont get me wrong on this. As much as i like the 09 reboot enterprise its just that when i heard someone in this vid say that something on the 60s enterprise the Matt Jefferies enterprise never did anything not only angers me but puts my respect for the new 09 enterprise to shame aswell.
I was disappointed, seeing it.
It is not elegant.
The visual style of the ships and thier interiors in JJ Trek is a DESIGN FAILURE! Not just the ENT -- Kelvin and other 2009 ships had cigars for nacelles! I hope one day JJ Trek is as forgotten as the Animated Series!
If they wanted it to be twice the size of the original ENT, they should have set it in the TNG/DS9/VOY timeline!!!!! What knuckleheads!!!!!!!
Set it on the ENT-J -- That one's HUUUUUGE!
Why does a ship have to have moving parts to be interesting? Voyager had that ---BIG DEAL!!!!
Ruined a classic... Hope they're proud of the ugly thing they made
filigrant what classic !? this enterprise is way better than previous type of enterprise (except E)
Some good elements, but overall an ugly-ass ship and a failed attempt to reverently redesign the most iconic vessel in all science-fiction...smh
These guys should never have been allowed to design a new Enterprise. So much of what they are saying in this video and the ideas they say they came up with just make me shake my head in disbelief. They ended up designing one ugly caricature of the Enterprise.
you did a bad job
The movie design is awful. TOS and the Refit version are gorgeous.
On right all of you are the reson y does it even matter seriously you complained for a newer look now you're complain that's it is new 1 word you are dum assho
God, that looks like shit. They did a terrible job.