Great Way for Wheels To FALL Off! (Wheel Spacer) Ford Mustang GT
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the second you ask if the new mic is good ----> it stopped working
LOL very Ray, of RAY.
Yeah, when you walked around to the other side of the car, the audio dropped, so it seems as if it's still the mic on the camera is what's picking up your audio.
I was gonna say the same thing, LOL!
Up until it stopped working, it sounded great!
Yes, you jinxed yourself.
Yep, right at the cut at 21:31, it went back to bad audio. Background noise ramped up. I'm not sure where you were wearing the mic but it changes depending on where your arms and body are.
Off duty rear brake videos are much better than no videos.
How about windshield wipers and air filters?😮
Yes
Agreed
As far as neglecting to tighten all bolts, Eric O. Tells the story of what his dad told him, "if the shop is on fire, you tighten those bolts before you leave".
Seems like good advice to me.
Eric O must have a very wise Dad🙏
I really like how you showed a routine repair that you've shown multiple times and went off talking about tools and materials instead of the repair. It gives us weekend DIYers more insight. Would love to see more of that
I second this comment!
Amazing how different brake jobs are in the north vs the south. Rust makes life more interesting.
Back ground noise sounds like jets flying around, great vid Ray😁
I have been a mechanic on airplanes and cars for 60 years and your ability amazes me.
You tackle jobs I wouldn't even begin - keep the videos coming I even have learned a
few thigs watching you work.
With wheel spacers you use the same torque spec as the lug nuts and its good practice to put a little bit of blue loctite on the threads to keep the nuts from wanting to back off. It's annoying to torque them because you have to use a pry bar to keep the hub from turning. Big spacers will strain the hubs and make them go bad sooner and stress the lug bolts more. Spacers like this size are fine as long as they are high quality and are hubcentric. Spacers that are not hubcentric should be illegal. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
It's the bearings that suffer, not the hubs
A lot of modern vehicles use non serviceable hub assemblies and not standard bearing and races. So the term hun is ubiquitous
When I installed my hubcentric wheel spacers, I placed a length of pipe between the front seat frame and brake pedal.
Moving the seat forward will apply the brakes so you can tighten the spacer Nuts.
They don't have to be, I know when I torque spacers like that, I just jam on the brakes by either wedging the pedal down, or a friend, then torque. Also a small spacer like this shouldn't be no harder on the hub bearing than a different offset wheel, its when that are much bigger and or heavier vehicle like them kids in them diesel's with the wheels sticking out past their tow mirrors.
@VikingDudee mine are attached to 16 inch beadlock wheels and 38 inch MT tires. They're very heavy
As a prior-service culinary chef watching you clean the grease off of those rotors with greasy fingers, all I could think of was, "NO, you're forgetting about cross-contamination!"
Don't poison your guest rotors...
🤣👍
My thoughts exactly! 🤣 There should be clearly defined HACCP posters on the wall with color coding of said greasy fingers to avoid this cross-contamination! 🤣😂🤣😂
Everyone knows that if you hear brake noise, it means your stereo is not turned up high enough. Sheesh
Or you could be deaf. I did a brake job on a 1960s Karmann Ghia in the late 60s that had NO linings left, it was total metal on metal on all four wheels. It was a wonder the old guy could stop. As I remember the car was a trash heap inside.
I once fixed a transmission by changing my CD from Queen to Iron Maiden
🤨That's not a good idea if I heard your brakes squeak or grind. If I needed a ride from you, I would turn around and call someone else for a ride, ssshheeese!! dangerous! Why don't you look up most crazy accidents from people neglegents on vehicles my man and you would understand
My new car's stereo doesn't have enough bass for low vibrations and whatnot. I need to remedy that. But yeah, fixes noise every time.
@@allenhackneyii125is a joke not a dick don't take it so hard
Audio is vastly improved, however, I will say that the new microphone does pick up a lot of background noises. It is obviously very sensitive and powerful. It picks you up very well and has a great sound for what you need.
Great audio and as for comments on background noises from this viewer I don't mind that either Thank you, Ray! I enjoy watching South Main Auto now and you and Eric O with the Can/music is always my favorite.
I have my aunt's 2001 mustang GT with the BBK headers, I have a new found deep respect for whoever went through that install after watching you go through it.
When the gaskets fail, do yourself a favor. Install a tubular k member. The headers can be taken off in less than an hour.
If you think the header install on an 01 gt is long, look up the 2011 and up gt install. Nearly 15 hours of labor time.
@@karlhopkins713 I'll definitely keep that in mind. Thanks
Ray, I very much appreciate how thoroughly you explain, in detail, the tools you use, why you do things during the job, and the pointers/precautions you share. You are the best teacher on the automotive channels. Thank you!
On the new slide pin lube, you're willing to do research learn and change if you find something better. Not all people are like that. Good job Ray, yall have a great weekend!
New mic sounds good when it works...😂😂😂 have yourself a great holiday weekend Ray 👍
Yes Ray please show the rear brake job if approved 😊
In the 70’s we used to rebuild calipers on every brake job. This included the piston rebuild on the rear drum brakes at that time But, i have always remove one wheel’s brakes at a time and that explanation you gave of the piston popping out upon depression of another piston is exactly why my father taught us that way. Good video, it is good to see some of the multiple brake caliper design changes that the manufacturers have made. Innovation is good! Purple caliper grease apparently is bad. Thanks for that update too, i think i have a half tube left in my tool cart.
I've done over 100 brake jobs but I'll watch and learn and enjoy You and Lauren.
"Warped Rotors" have been a pet peeve of mine for Decades! Thank you for mentioning the real cause. It won't change the unwashed masses, but it made my day!
You must have watched a different video than the rest of us...
Ray gave you three scenarios all of them being a variation of the same symptom.
He gave you 3 results but he never gave you the root cause as to why rotors warp in the first place, 6:55 Ray: we either have surface thickness variation in the rotors that's where the rotor is a little thicker in spots... 7:17 Ray: The other way the rotor is warped and weevly-wobbly round.
7:19 Ray : The majority of vibrations is caused by issues with the surface and thickness of said surfaces...
I will just say, rotors primarily warp because of excessive and constant heat that reach 900 degrees or beyond
The reason why they warp can vary from literally anything to excessive or hard braking, bad factory casting and machining, wrong type of brake pads ceramic / metallic, cheap after market rotors, partially or fully seized caliper pistons, fully or partially seized sliders, contaminants on pads, bad wheel bearings, a build up of brake dust, mud, sand, rust build up when vehicles are left parked outside for longer periods, people who drive with two feet, uneven caliper piston pressure, aftermarket calipers, constant driving/braking in heavy traffic, poor ventilation and heat entrapment caused by wrong wheels or in this case fancy caliper covers that can trap heat. When a brake pedal pulses under your foot, this is a strong indicator of a warped rotor. We the unwashed know rotors warp and why they warp, its not rocket science
It's also no secret that vehicles that do a lot of hi-way driving get longer brake pad / rotor life.
"Mines Warped! Why do I always get the Warped one!" - William J. Le Petomane
@@IR-nq4qv "Warp" as a generic term is my beef. I've installed Baer, Wilwood, Hawk and Performance Friction among others, and If I don't trust the owner to do a proper bed-in, I'll do it or else the rotors will be trashed, Not by warping, but by metallurgical changes and invariably it's not run out (i.e. warpage) that is the problem, it's varying thickness. The biggest culprit I've encountered is a clueless owner with new HP brakes doing a 120mph--Zero stop on the anti-lock AND THEN standing on the pedal at a dead stop!!! One time is enough to destroy a couple thou worth of hardware! If you doubt me, try it yourself.
I also worked for ABEX when I was still in college and we had a 1 ton pickup that ran around with a bed full of steel just to replicate real world abuse. And, no, Actual warping isn't an issue with any but the cheapest Chinese rotors.
Warp Rotor sounds like the name of a rock and roll band.🎵
@@ManBearPig3 No one can definitively answer that query from where they are sitting.
For any inquiring mind...Pads and rotors are made and meant to wear out, none are built to last. Alternatives., always use OEM warranty parts or top performance slotted / vented rotors and dual piston calipers. Change brake pads anytime they become glazed or exceed 65% of total wear to ensure proper stopping and maintain even rotor wear.
All cars can be identical or comparable with the exact same brake materials set up.
The only factors that can cause shorter brake life are driving conditions and driver habits with the caveat, conditions or habits don't necessarily have to be good or bad.
Hey Ray nice to see you following up with customer cars and making it better…… love the repeat customer content.
Love your videos entertaining and informative. I have worked on cars my entire life and I am 63. You explain things that the uninformed can understand.also when you make a mistake you admit to it.
Hi Ray, just a note for you, when you install wheel spacers you should cut the original studs so they are flush with the spacer's surface... if you dont, the spacer will not seat properly and might give you that shake.
I see what you mean
The wheels could be resting on the studs and not on the whole spacer
@@DaveBigDawg In some cases yes, but those Mustang wheels have pockets in them so the studs won't hit. I've never liked spacers, they just add an extra point of failure.
I have used the purple grease for years through ;multiple replacement cycles of pads on my own vehicles... never any issue with the slide pins. However, I do clean the pins EVERY time I do pads. Lazy no-cleaning may change the results.
A new project for Ray! Add terminals that are accessible from the side of the tool box so you don't need to climb into the bed, open the box then open the other box just to connect the jumper cables. Just flip open a cover on the side of the tool box and connect the jumpers there!
😂😂came to say exactly that
He's got a lock on the tool box. I doubt he wants someone touching a wrench to his two exposed terminals. Similar reason I don't leave my winch connected.
@jasonemeric9902 it switches on and off from the cab, your comment is mute
@@scottwilliams1976 oh. Indeed it is lol
@@scottwilliams1976 and btw... If u r gonna be like that... it's "moot", not "mute"
I can only imagine all the people that you have helped.
You put on a great class all the time
Ty
Hell yes I want to see you do the rears.
Definitely, those need the adapters for the calipers to compress.
@@tomn8tr I have a 2016 Mustang and I had to buy a special tool to rotate the pistons in the rear calipers in order to compress them. Soon I will have to do the brakes all the way around on my 16 Odyssey. Can't wait to see if I will have to buy special tools for that job.
@@Doodler-JL It is such great fun to buy a new/used vehicle to find out what SSTs are required to do a simple job on any other vehicle
Yes, please
The electrons in a jump box are old, but electrons in a cable are fresh from the alternator. Everyone knows that.
Well, with very rare exceptions, all of the electrons are billions of years old.
@@MonkeyJedi99 But a lot get exited to meet you!
@@MonkeyJedi99 Not to a certain type of Christian, they're not!
Each brake job brings something new, wheel spacers, stuck rotors, squealer devices, slide pins. etc. we learn from them all. so they are NOT boring!
Audio is spot on ray! Sounds great!
Great audio....just remember to take it off for private conversations or bathroom breaks.
Thanks for the good videos to help me when I am sick 😢
Love coming home from work to a Ray video. Your videos are the perfect wind down to a busy day! Reminds me of sitting in the garage trying to learn everything I can from my dad!
Thank you dude !! I just ordered my new brake caliper compression tool. No more C-clamps for me !! Keep showing us your cool tools. I've been upgrading my stuff as I see new tools being used. Im almost 60 and still use tools my grandpa was using. But thanks to YT I'm learning all kinds of new things. Thanks again Ray !
Best to compress the caliper while it’s still on the rotor IMO
Thumbs Up for the new audio!!!!!
Just keep doing whatever works for you... I feel like that's how it should be done. There's a hype today for gadgets and knickknacks, which (some of 'em) have good use, but the old fashioned way hasn't actually gone bad or stopped working, and it even feels more personal, for the effort you put in as to get it to work
Wheel spacers = Always a BAD idea!
Not to mention the obvious issues, but the offset increases the cantilever load on the wheel bearing / hub....and causes early failures !
You are absolutely right !!!
Yes they are--Bad on Wheel Bearings, I used them in the Roaring 60"s...
So what's the difference on the bearing between spacers and wheels with the same offset as the spacers add?
@@worxcustoms3440 Wheels with a lot of neg offset are bad too. I write service at a GMC dealership, and see it all the time. Spacers and high neg offset, tearing up hubs.
Those are factory GT wheels with 6 cylinder spinners. Offsets are there to accommodate the phony caliper covers
Always a good idea to check level of fluid in the Reservoir or open bleeder and drain caliper fluid out of caliper to prevent pushing reservoir lid off and leaking fluid into engine bay
I always take a wire brush to the mount before I put shims on due to rust. They fit better
Definately in the rust belt. Eric O sandblasts em.
AUDIO 10/10 Always clear////Always
Yay a Ray video!
WOW IT'S 7 PM IN ARIZONA, AND I FINALLY GOT TO SEE YOUR VIDEO, HAD A HECTIC DAY, DIDN'T EVEN GET MY MORNING COFFEE, BUT I WOULDN'T MISS YOUR SHOW RAY,😅 SEE YOU IN THE MORNING 😅
The first time you walked away from the camera your voice faded but the second time it worked great for your volume
You should install a port to use the plug in jumper cable in your truck
ty for the great consistent content.
yes I love watching you just for the fun and makes me happy all day you need to make a reality show
They are correct. That purple does seize the slide pins. I know this from doing my own. Good ole school axle or bearing grease hasn't failed in 60 years.
Even the purple stuff beats what a lot of people use for driveway jobs... which is nothing at all.
I was taught, years ago, that Syl-Glide was a good lube. However, I have found over the years that Syl-Glide eventually coagulates and makes the calipers stick. I use the CRC like Ray uses nowadays. Also, I never grease the backs of the pads. If anything, I use NAPA Disc Brake Quiet. You spray it on the backs and you'll never have disc brake squeal. Mostly with ceramic pads.
@@robertsheriff6118 I have never understood the need to grease the backs of the pads. The piston does not move around on the pad so no need to have a low friction surface and all the grease will do is attract brake dust and road grime. However I am not a mechanic by trade, just a retired farmer that serviced his own vehicles.
Same goes for the pinion gear shaft on starter motors. Never grease the spiral gear as the grease will harden and attract any crap that gets up in the bell housing causing it to stick.
@@MonkeyJedi99 Too true .
@@ecclesmilligan8712 Exactly!
Audio is spot on.
I don't believe your microphone is actually working properly. If you have it plugged into your camera, it may not be selected as the default microphone. When you walked away from the camera, we lost the volume on your voice. If it was working we wouldn't have noticed a change in volume.
Edit: Re-watching that section of the video, I also noticed that the tone of your voice changed as you angled the camera towards you more just before you walked away.
Absolutely do the rears. I know the money is a factor, when doing the entire car, but right now, you have beautiful Powerstop brakes on the front, and crusty, rusty, old brakes in the rear. When I do brakes, I always do the entire car, then you know, you’re good to go, for years to come👍
Just an observation. I was taught many years ago that the caliper should not be pushed back without opening the bleeder screw first. Then it just pushes out the old fluid and nothing is being pushed back into the system. I have always done it this way and still bleed the system with new fluid. It also eliminates any system flushes. I never see anyone doing it this way, but works for me for he past 50 years. Thank you for your videos, so enjoy watching and still learning.
Not a bad way. Some avoid doing that because it avoids possibly breaking off the bleeder, especially on old rusty cars. And It just takes longer
I've been doing that forever
I just take the lid off the reservoir as it does increase the fluid level in it.
I like doing it in my own car just to keep that bleeder moving around
Audio is wonderful!!!!! The rear breaks will be nice to watch. Ray keep up the good work. "GO TEAM RAY"
95 in Florida is like 115 in drier climates!
Hot spots in the rotors have a different coefficient of friction that can also cause pulsing.
Worn pads and hot rotors!
Mic is working great!
As we say amongst my friends, "It's not the heat, it's the stupidity... I mean humidity."
@@MonkeyJedi99 I think you got it in the first part of your' quote'🤣
Yes, I would like to see the rear brake job because all repairs are different and something unexpected could show up, so even though some see it as redundant, I see it as an opportunity to learn how to fix said unexpected malfunctions. I hope I said all that right and didn't confuse everyone. Have a great day everyone including Luna and an even better tomorrow for all your tomorrow's to come.
When referring to Luna is his dog named that ? as Eric O has a cat with the same name.
I'm sure you know by now. . . . . Your experiment with The Mic Failed!!🤣
Yo Ray, loving your videos. I came back to this same video again 4 hours after watching it again. Just for youtube to recommend it again because i went out to get food, a ford pickup truck in front of me had lost its entire right front steering system. Looks like it skidded for a while before leaning rightways. No one was injured but that wheel was just out of that car. LOL
Ray's truck doesn't need an odometer, it needs an hour meter.
That’s a good idea my 2004 Silverado actually has an hour meter. I agree with you that is funny
It has one, built into the odometer display.
Done lots of my own and family's brakes but always open to learn others methods, thanks Ray
Oh, those fake caliper covers. Classic RICE.
North American rice?
@@notbanksy8294 Must be Uncle Ben's rice ... (Giving my age away a bit there)
Those Harbor Freight jump box will give you six months. Can't expect much from those cheapies. I have used the Booster Pac brand ES5000 which is a little pricey at $200 but I am on year six and it is still doing as it was designed. I will add that I use it frequently with my job. Also, yes would love to see the added video finishing the brake job on your current Mustang.
24:08 No we can not hear you when you walked way over there. Did you think it would sound like you were wearing it? To much background white noise.
Noticed that too
I never thought about warped rotors in the aspect you explained. Ray, but you make a great point. I know we see a lot of brake jobs but I don't mind watching another. After all every car is different. I would also have to agree with the lack of lubricant on those types of pads. Definitely make sure you torque those spacers along with the wheels.
Thats ford for ya
Yes
I miss Corvette rally rings and caps on steel rims. Still see them out sometimes 😊
Audio is good!! Videos are great!!😊
For remembering to torque the lug nuts and whatever-else, MY trick has always been to leave one obviously backed-out or even 'entirely off'. I'd have to miss the whole nut being elsewhere/out at the end of its lug/on an actual wheel-lug or something 'odd' so there's no question that I need to attend to them more before closing up.
Audio sounds excellent
I have a flip over socket 19.5mm x 18.5mm and I've seen you use one as well. I have a Ford Fusion and Fords are noted for "swollen nuts", a chrome capped lug nut. When they swell, the usual 19mm socket won't fit unless you hammer it on. The 19.5mm works great for that. Sometimes the cap comes off, so the 18.5mm works for those. I solved the problem by throwing away the original Ford lug nuts and replacing them with solid, one piece nuts.
Yes, do the rear brakes. I work on an 05 for a family member sometimes.
I would like to see you mention locating the slider pin head flats with the caliper housing that prevents them spinning. As DIY ers may be watching.
Oh, memories!
'Warped Rotors with Scant Friction-Material (but a hundred-fifty miles to go' " was the name of the rocksteady/soul ensemble I was with back in the eighties.
FYI Ray you sound much clearer and less noise in back round.
Nice to hear use of the full Monty from over here in blighty
Audio is better at times. The new mic is picking up more background noise though.
Opening the bleeder empty’s all that old fluid instead of sending it back but that’s me I don’t have the energy to go get a camera but the mic works great 👍 keep the videos up
Good day to you Ray, must say that I love the knee caps 😂😂😂. I am back on the Dave sighting kick, where is he? LOL! Have a great holiday weekend.
When the air compressors on it sounds like a fighter jet outside it's not loud but that's what it sounds like ray
Love that model of the Stang. Audio sounds really good I think your camera disconnected from it. But it sounds SOOO much better
You should also mention the people they shouldn't add brake fluid to their master cylinder because that's a good recommendation to see how your brakes are. The lower the fluid means of left pads that you have on your brakes. That way when you squeeze the Pistons back in the caliper it fills a reservoir back up
at a friend's garage fairly recently he had a Toyota MR2 with a body kit on it to make it look like a Ferrari, to fill the wheel arches out it had eight inch wheel spacers on the back and six inch on the front.
Yes, I would like to see the rear brakes on the Mustang GT!
Love the mic change! Thank you so much, Ray! It's impressive how you guys work at a noisy environment. Loud noises! 😄
Yes on the rear pads remove & replace 👍👍👍
I had to put spacers on my boat trailer so the fenders didn't rub on the boat hull and nearly lost the trailer as the spacers were coming loose. I picked up heavy duty thread-lock as these spacers are never going to come off and that did the trick. 4 years later and no issues from them.
Love the mobile microphone 🎙️
when i can i compress the caliper with a screwdrive or prydriver before unbolting just pry back inner pad saves time also c-clap vicegrips on inboard with the old pad and that works very well also never felt the need to buy exspenive tool like that to do this job..but it just makes you look better in the eyes of some customers
Chevrolet Rally wheels were the best👍 excellent job torquing the wheels spacers. I do the same twice around.
Good morning yall.
Coffee and Ray doing his thang.
Gonna be a good day Tater.
I know all about the northern rust.
I live in Ohio and have delt with our rusted vehicles for many years.
Love yr channel Ray, Wife Unit, and Dave.
I've had a set of wheel spacers fail. Thankfully, while driving slowly through a school zone.
There's nothing like watching your wheel go down the road as you're grinding to a stop on your rotor into the median.
Bent the spindle. I recommend against them.
I’m 64 and love my corded impact gun. Matches my corded push lawnmower.
When you were talking about the pistons popping out. I remember the days when you bought rebuild kits not complete calipers and used air to pop them out on purpose.
I call those freeway cables. Pull up behind the disabled vehicle and still be able to jump start it.
You have THE POWER! And you use it for good. Commendable.
Good morning Ray. I think the audio sounds great, and have a great day!
To do analysis around engine compartment you can look up ear cleaners. They hook to phone but it is smaller than your engine camera probes you have.
I was taught, years ago, that Syl-Glide was a good lube. However, I have found over the years that Syl-Glide eventually coagulates and makes the calipers stick. I use the CRC like Ray uses nowadays. Also, I never grease the backs of the pads. If anything, I use NAPA Disc Brake Quiet. You spray it on the backs and you'll never have disc brake squeal. Mostly with ceramic pads.
I remember when I bought my mechanic special 2003 dodge ram 1500 with mismatch pads all the way around and very warped rotors . I replaced them with cross drilled slotted rotors and no warping and no dust build up . Only bad is you can’t have them turned!
I've had a heap of brake work this week, so I've sort of had enough of looking at brakes, maybe I'll come back to this vid when That feeling wears off lol