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Parts Falling OFF! Lost Steering Control! 2000-2006 Silverado Sierra GMT 800 5.3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ม.ค. 2024
- Customer States: Steering feels loose and sloppy. After pulling this Silverado into the shop, the visual inspection found that the steering system has severely worn out linkage. The pitman arm attached to the steering gear is completely worn out and ready to fall apart. The idler arm is loose at the bracket and loose at the idler arm ball in socket joint where the connection is made to the center link of the steering system. The tie rod ends are connected to the center link which connect the wheels to the steering system. If either of the two components come apart the vehicle will become uncontrollable as it would result in a total loss of steering control.
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Ray, I would just like to comment about your recent discussions of your videos being too long. Please let this be a non issue. Your videos are some of the best on TH-cam. If a repair takes 90 minutes so be it, if it's 15 minutes again, it is what it is. Your focus should be on the quality of work, not the duration. I can only speak for myself when it comes to my time, but of you post a long video, I just watch it when I have more time. Keep doing what you and stop listening to people whining about how long they are. Some of us are hear to learn. Length and details provide that learning. Keep up the amazing work and content.
Absolutely! I don't know what's the deal with these 15 minute vids - you ain't gonna show everything you wanna show, you ain't gonna say you want to say, quality loss is dramatic.
Even the most renowned TH-camrs went this way, that's why I don't watch them anymore! They advertised themselves as a better version of a Discovery Channel, they ended up in doing stuff that's even worse: fast forwarding *every damn part of a video*, making their content targeted effectively at toddlers.
The truth is, folks are getting dumber and dumber. Keeping focus for more than 5 minutes is a "remarkable achievement" - so damn sad.
I'd watch this man take an hour to replace a battery. Even when I think I know everything about a certain type of repair/replacement, Ray finds a way to teach me multiple new ways/tips to tackle the job. Ray is an amazing shopman, but also an amazing teacher.
I was on a road trip. I came out of the motel in the morning to get breakfast. A guy was taking a steering gear box off of a 3/4 ton 4 wheel drive Ford truck. It had a trailer with a boat on it. The shaft from the steering gear box connected to the pitman arm was broken. He said he located one across town. He would’ve had to walk about a mile and a half to get it. He had some friends with him. It was a hot day. I took chairs out of my truck and handed them all water. I took the guy to get the steering gear box. In my 96 Dodge extra cab Cummins truck. On the way out of the parking lot my wife stepped out of the door and saw me leaving with a stranger. I stopped and told her the story. I told the guy I didn’t want her to think I was being car jacked. 😂. The gear box broke in the parking lot. We both thought lucky it happened there and not on the freeway at 70 mph. Whew.
That's super lucky! Which part of the gearbox broke?
You were actually going to drive off without telling your wife? Unbelievable.
@@Game_Blox9999 I want to know too. I've heard of someone having the sector shaft break on a 3rd gen dodge pulling a horse trailer on the interstate and they slammed into the concrete divider wall. They walked away but it could have been way worse.
It makes sense that the thing would break while maneuvering in a parking lot. Low speeds and wrestling the tires around rappidly puts a lot of strain on steering gear.
It's really nice of a fellow to help out.
I’m super happy that you were willing to assist them! Hopefully someday if you need assistance some kind soul will be there for you!
I enjoy:
- your knowledge
- your thoroughness and common sense
- Your levity
Hey Ray, little tip from a relatively lazy mechanic with these GM trucks and changing that pitman arm...just loosen the upper most bolt a few turns on the box, remove the other ones and the steering box actually pivot on that top bolt enough so you can get a socket with an impact on it to remove the nut and a proper puller.
Ray with your expertise and your hard work, you saved this customer from catastrophe!!!
I had an idler arm failure on a Ford Falcon at 70 mph on I44. I could still steer, but each time you reached center, the steering would flop to the opposite direction. After swerving wildly from one side of the highway to the other several times and nearly overturning two or three times, I finally came to a stop. Wildest ride I ever took in an automobile. I was truly blessed to survive it.
What I find interesting, is that you know that this excessive wear didn’t just happen, and the owner must have known there was a problem for quite some time. So you have to wonder what finally compelled him/her to finally bring it in for inspection and repairs. It’s amazing how long individuals will knowingly drive around in vehicles in total and dangerous disrepair.
This customer should be happy he is getting to see you working on his white Silverado truck 😂
I'm sensing the building of the ultimate TH-cam mechanics garage. Your creating a super team ray 🎉
You've come along way from your other business "Lawn Care" congrats to you and the Mrs. Warms my heart to see an honest family man doing the right thing in life and a role model to society......keep up the great work and may our Lord guide you daily
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@Repent-and-believe-in-Jesus , I spent a few years researching the "claims" in the Bible and was utterly "disappointed" in the answers! Yeah, you and your "MAGA" Trump lovers keep doing what you're doing and watch the % of your evangelical cult keep diminishing! 🙄 lol
"It's hard to control your wobbly bits with just one hand" lol Amen brother.
No bloke with one hand has any wobbly bits.
Wow. Imagine driving down the Interstate, having that idler arm/center link break loose and the right wheel goes right, and the left wheel goes left. Vehicle owner dodged a big bullet getting it to Ray in time, for sure.
this junker had to have been making a racket for along long long time. these are the kind of people that should not be out on public roads...
No, imagine your family is who is killed because this incompetent boob kept driving a dangerous vehicle.
Not too smart.
Probably what happened to Adam Savage. By that time, he was effectively a stunt driver. While stopping, he turned on ... noise maker of some sort and flashers.
all would have taken was hitting a pothole at speed and parts of that steering system could have come apart
the conditions of the roads in the SE (SC is some of the worst) - especially after the storms can be really bad. Seen this on the interstates and on state highways
Respect to Lauren for calling balljoints sight unseen shes really picking up some stuff there, great job Wife Unit!!
Is that why she's the boss?
Angry Pliars are never a wrong answer and should see more exposure. We all need more Angry Pliars in our lives. We thank Ray for today's Angry Pliars appearance.
Pliers?
To me it’s all about trust. I understand a lot about mechanical stuff. I used to do all of my maintenance. Hell I used to change motors transmissions axles. I can afford to pay to have stuff done now. I’m too burned out. I don’t even change my oil now. I have a great mechanic that I trust. If he recommends more stuff I say ok. I understand what he’s talking about.
This is Bob LD'S husband. You are incredible Ray. Love watching your videos. I remember when ALL cars had grease fittings on suspension and u-joints. Things change, and sometimes not for the better. For the record, I agree about exchanging all the fluids, just part of taking car of the vehicle You folks all stay safe..
I never get tired of watching you work on GMT800 trucks. I own one myself and did a lot of maintenance on it to bring it back to life and these videos are always educational. Pretty much learning these trucks inside and out.
Me too I have a 01 2500 aswell and smile when I see these Silverado trucks knowing I’ll learn something on how to maintain my own truck.
Cheers to Dave he’s the unsung hero of the shop. He seems like a really nice guy. What little that we see of him👍
He is Liquid Dave .He is everywhere Always doing something.He is Liquid..
Useless trivia time;
The Pittman arm doesn't get its name from an individual, but rather from sawmill speak. The man who was in a pit below a log who pulled a saw through the wood to create boards was known as the pitman. The unconventional crank converts the turning motion of a sawmill water wheel to the saw's up and down motion.
That is awesome to learn, thanks!
Funny how it's got the extra t then, but I guess a pitman would need gallons of tea to stay hydrated.
Internet also states it was invented by a George Washington Pitman a US railroad engineer in the 1800s, I guess you take your choice.
@@petercornish9903 the extra "T" is a typo
I thought it was invented by Al Gore.
The steering box looks like it has definitely been replaced previously as the bolts securing it to the chassis have clean threads showing.
Morning everyone, Ray working in a toque and long sleeves. Arod is enjoying the warmer temperatures working in a tshirt. Funny Arod visits when it is cold and snowy at home.🤔🤔🤔
Arod was probably a guest for a video that Ray hasn't edited for display yet!
Because Arod showed up right after Ray got an invite to Diesel Logic!?
And Ray probably tossed in some Super Duty work to help with the cost of the long drive even though he was working on his own truck in the background of a couple of vids
It's kind of scary knowing there's people out there on the highway with vehicles in that dangerous condition. The owner had to feel and hear that. Not to mention the handling. WOW!
As a child of the 70's that much steering play was the norm in big trucks like home heating oil trucks. The noise, however...
It's not just worrying about what your doing it's the other idiots you have to worry about
Been to Floriduh?
Disney world that is it but I done it twice
no u@Repent-and-believe-in-Jesus
One thing I always checked at least on the heavy duty chassis was for greasing the u-joints that tended to be an area where people would miss
That used to be a thing back in the day
Ray, gotta thank you. I never knew about those offset extension wrenches until a video a long time ago you used one. Talked about it at my shop and finally ended up getting one and it is a game changer. I struggle with the tucked Ford hvac actuators and they're the perfect tool for it! It's only January but it made my year!
That settles it!! Lauren gets a raise and a promotion to Apprentice. Give her time and she'll be able to diagnose just by touching the door handle. Wish your shop was closer to where I live.
Impressive that they drove that truck in there like that.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity.😂
@shakerman55 this is what no regulations and inspections grow. What a backwards environment. There are too many like this out amongst us.
In my area I saw a minivan driving around without the sliding door on for over three months, so very few things surprise me anymore.
@@cengeb, state mandated inspections aren't a guarantee of getting unsafe vehicles off the road. South Carolina ended their inspection program some years back because it was so ineffective and corrupt, 'scrape the old sticker and paste a new one' on a clunker for a bribe, so to speak.
@@JM-lk6wo Jersey used to check all kinds of stuff, now it's just emissions. They used to look at wipers, life car front end up a tad, and by hand pull on front wheels to find this kind of stuff,headlight alignment,brake stopping on a device that measured the stopping ,all taillights, look under neath to check for exhaust mods, it took some time. No charge, state run part of registration fees. Now state is just doing emissions..hook up scan tool, read the number and stick a sensor into the exhaust. if they catch a cracked windshield the flag it. We have a lot of junkers on the roads that shouldn't be. Go to Germany for a week drive around, come back here, and see how bad this place is..we are 2nd world and falling fast.
Hi Ray been watching your content for a few years. Really enjoy your style and no nonsense honest work. Glad the new digs are working out. Wish you were located close to me as I would def bring my vehicle to you. Respect!
Finding your channel was a blessing. I have been watching all your previous videos and was shocked with this video. I too have a 2000 GMC Sierra (same as the Chevy) that I will be replacing the pitman arm and idle area assembly. Very informational with step by step. Thank you and keep up the good work.
I used to ride to work with a fellow who was a particularly aggressive driver. A 55 mph highway for him was 70-80 mph on a relaxed day. He had a Lincoln sedan at the time and after our usual drift down the highway, we pulled into the parking space at work, got out, and both tires were sitting in line with each other, pointing in opposite directions 90 degrees to the car frame, one pointing right and one pointing left. I learned a lot about how not to take care of a car.
Dude, you are just toooo good. The way you come at these problems is always just so innovative and always effective. You are a man of true auto mechanic talent.
Ray- Be VERY careful about using those "Jet engine" type heaters. A mechanic friend was draining the gas tank on a motor home and the fumes were ignited by the heater. He was very badly burned, and his garage and house were totally burned to the ground.
Ray: you should have used a box end wrench to tighten the nut on the pitman arm to get maximum torque. You really don't want that to back off.
Good job, Ray! A lot of people don't realize that much slop in the steering will ruin an expensive pair of tires in a very short time. Not to mention the unseen damage to the front drive components.
Several years back, we got two of these GMT800 Silverados at an insurance auction. One was a 1999 and the other was a 2002. They were both of the same config, with the extended cab and 7 foot(?) bed - the expected bed with this configuration. The 1999 had a 4.8 engine and was a K/4WD version. This one had the 3 door config same as the truck in this video. The 2002 was a 2WD with a 5.3 and had 4 doors. The 4.8 was actually quite peppy, was a fun truck to drive.
And the guy drove it like that😮😮😮 that's nuts
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That noise is the pulverized transponder reducer. 😂😂😂😂😂
To remove cotter pin just use side cutters to pull them out and also to straighten ends
Great job Ray, People be lucky to have you as their Mechanic.
Back when I was still driving my 64 Olds here in Brazil, I was flabbergasted to find mechanics here routinely rebuild tie rod ends, ball joints, idler arms and pitman! Inexpensive too! I see in the USA there are T3 headlight restorers too. I agree with some others here, older and classic vehicles were made to last longer.
I had a truck exactly like that, a 2000 2500 non-HD extended cab, except it was a 5 speed manual and had 4x4 on the floor. Carpeted, power windows and seats. I loved that truck. I sold it at 237k miles for the same amount that I originally paid with 86k miles.
that 2000 ext a cab is in great shape well worth fixing up .
Dude, i'll you could make me sit here for so long and watch all your videos.! Such a brilliant mech!
I would not have liked to be driving that but as usual Ray the main man comes to the rescue and probably saved their lives ,thanks for the very interesting video
"It's hard to control your wobbly bits with just one hand" with a limp wristed Snap-On socket would probably be the best selling T-shirt this year.
Good day to you Ray! Alright! a short Dave sighting…. Baby steps. 😂😂
Thank you for opening your own shop. It makes the videos much better.
Now all he needs is a bigger shop. 👍
Amazingly rust free. You won't find many that nice up here in New England. Always enjoy your content.
Great Ghu!! That's not a noise you EVER want to hear in something as important as the steering! And enough play to fly a commercial passenger jet through.
A master at work - You are amazing! Learn something from you every video, which BTW are NEVER too long. I just wish I had all your tools, Man, what a collection. RBB
GOOD TO SEE YOUR WHOLE CREW THIS MORNING, AND YA THE OWNER NEW IT WAS BAD ,THAT'S WHY THEY BRANG IT TO YOU. GOOD JOB ON THIS ONE.
Learn to turn off the caps DÚM
Play nice in here
Just looking at those wheels, it sure is easy to see that truck has rarely seen salted roads or snow. Nice and Shinnnneeeeeyyy!!!
It almost looks like the steering gearbox had been recently replaced. The bolt ends are free of surface rust and the housing has a different shade of oxidation on it.
Whoever swapped it should have noticed the badly worn steering components. Good job Rainman.
Well the good thing right now Ray is seeing you set a great example for being an honest mechanic that puts customer safety first. That is great to see early in the morning.
Now the bad morning thing is that we are getting another round of freezing rain, sleet and snow mixed. We had that yesterday also. Heard the crews talking about backing up a couple hills on two of the major hiways (US 61) that are a couple miles away. They do that backing thing usually when they are glazed and the plow blades can't scrape the ice loose. It was raining last night when I headed to bed so my guess is that it washed all the salt and sand off the roadways. Good ol Midwest US living. You all stay safe and healthy.
man cant believe its 2 years since i been watching you daily
not this shop not last shop but the shop before that with the angle bays
I hope to see you start hand tightening all of the suspension and brake components soon.
Drunk?
Great work nice to see your honesty most shops would have sold tie rod ends.
28:04 was so satisfying. What a great idea along with the nut to protect the thread and give the puller more purchase. You are the man!
I changed the idler arm, Pittman arm and all 6 tie rod pcs on my Astro at about 260k miles, used cheap rockauto parts. Was easy restoring of steering for less than $100.
I am so thankful that we here in Sweden have mandatory inspections. When car is new, the first inspection is after three years. The next one after two and then every(!) year. They go through a lot - lights, suspensions, steering, rust on vital parts, seat belts, emissions, brakes and more. To make sure the car is safe.
You can pass, or fail for minor fault so you have to fix it before next inspection, or fail with larger fault so you have to do a revisit for another inspection within 30 days, or major fault that will give the car a driving ban and thus you need to tow it away. And if you do not do your yearly inspection, then there will be an automatic driving ban on the car and you are ONLY allowed to drive it directly to an inspection.
What amazes me most is that there are really surprisingly many cars that actually fail on the first inspection. Only three years old! Ball joints are a common problem, especially on some models/brands.
Been a while since I’ve seen you, good to see you and cheers to your progress with your shop.
and this is why we get our cars inspected every year in New South Wales Australia
Love my 3-Door GMT-800 Sierra Z-71, glad to see another 3-Door GMT-800! 163K miles is barely broken in! Ray, 3-doors ended mid-2000 when they added the 4th door on the driver's side.
Beautiful truck! Mine’s an 02 HD with the 6.0 gasser. Same color, but 4 door ext cab with 160k on the odometer. Also mine has lived its life in Alaska and Wisconsin so it’s got some rust but not bad. Just had the front end rebuilt 10k ago so it’s good to go. Next up is new exhaust manifolds (ugh) and fan clutch (easy). Great job keeping these great trucks on the road Ray!
Great job crew.
U got to luv the antique grease gun
I work at a shop and those components are challenging to do. Keep up the great work. Tell Arodi said hello.
Ray lives his life a quarter turn at a time....
Great video Ray, you saved that owner a lot of money and healing if that would've fell off while going down the highway.
Ray, it'd be cool for you to take a poll on, how many viewers you have saved THOUSAND$$. I know I have saved a bunch learning from your TH-cam the past 2 years. Two of my favorites: back at the other shop, you pulled the complete dash out to change the AC condenser because of a little temp sensor. The other was when you had to keep welding lug nugs on that Buick wagon sleeper. And of course the Subaru broken bolt. Love the fact "can't " isn't in your vocabulary. Always look forward to your videos. Love your straightforward honesty and humor. You're doing more for the community than you know..Shoutout to Lauren! 👊👍
Good morning Mr Ray hope y'all have a great day, it's raining here now lol, from one extreme to another
Solid solid repair. Smooth driving from here.
I'm glad you stated the obvious to viewers of your videos: People think that if they do their oil changes but neglect to do the other components of their cars, everything is good to go. I overkill my maintenance on my cars. Pay me now (cheap option) or pay me later (expensive option) if you will.
Good morning from San Luis Obispo, CA. On a road trip, awaiting my sunrise and enjpying seeing all the rust-free vehicles of all eras that Californians are eager to drive and fix forever, regardless of fuel costs!
My Silverado with only 80k miles is illegal in CA. Gets 19 on trips. I guess it's killing people here in IN.
Very nice repair and just in time from what I saw. The customer was very, very blessed that the pitman arm didn’t come loose and have no steering at any speed. Those kind of things are happening as you drive past those older models. People drive those models till the vehicle are a death trap on wheels.
You are giving away all the trade secrets. I always if being a mechanic was easy, every one would do it.
Yet another fantastic episode, thank you
That was a very slick move removing the pitman arm without removing the gear box.Way to go,I'm stealing that move fo sure!😉❤️💯
Very Entertaining! Formula Uhn!
Love the big heavy greasy mechanical repairs! Gives me confidence to try them myself.
Hi Ray, For the future replacement / repair of the steering pitman arm area I recommend that you locate the protection seal between the steering sector shaft and the pitman arm to protect the debris / weather element to build up in the sector shaft to seal area cause the steering to leak. Great Job as usual...
Morning Ray, you and my cup of Hot Tea, make for a great start today.
Tate and Lyle's golden syrup.
Use it to make "steamed golden". What you will need is a pressure cooker (ask Lauren if she's got one).
Fun fact - my brother-in-law stipulated steamed golden as dessert at his wedding !
Caterers did an OK job, but you need LOTS of syrup, because the rest of the pudding soaks up the syrup. (They didn't really appreciate this).
Mr McNicol's name is pronounced MACK (as in truck) NICK (as in steal) and OL (as in LOL). Scotsman, or Scottish heritage. And a man of good taste.
Excellent work Ray 👍🇺🇸 Thank you 👏👏
Very informative and intertianing video, thanks
Saved this video I have a 99 silverado 2500 4wd gasser that I am going to do a full front-end rebuild this spring.
I find diagonal cutters work the best for pulling cotter pins, you squeeze just enough to bite then lever it out. If all else fails you can just cut the end with they eye. Also I really think Klein makes the best
YOUR RECORDING TIMES ARE USING MORE TIME RECORDING BECAUSE YOUR GETTIN SLOWER IN YOUR OLD AGE !!!!!!!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!!😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤!!!!!!! WORDS / GRAVITY !!!! WHEN PULLING COTTER KEYS OUT, USE NEEDLE NOSE PLYERS AND PUT ONE TIP THROUGH THE COTTER KEY AND HIT ON SIDE OF PLYERS TO PULL KEY OUT !!!!!!! WORKS LIKE A DREAM.
Welcome back kotter pin.
Those parts didn’t wear out like that overnight. It baffles me that the owner let them get that bad before having them replaced. A dangerous situation for the owner and other people on the road.
Fond memories of greasing the seemingly infinite number of zerks on late 60's and seventies Jeeps. Along with the ones on that you did on that truck there were the upper and lower ball joints, Spring shackles, driveshafts, all the U-Joints, the clutch linkage and transfer case shift linkage. I may have forgotten one or two in the list, memory loss due to age.
Flexible hoses on a grease gun. Never really used much else. Seems like all the ones I have to do, can not be accessed with any type of solid tip. Amazing .
Hi Ray excellent video on front end work I enjoyed it and as always you and you’re families be safe and Dave families 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Nice job once again!!
30:09 Love ya Ray! You're the kind of technician I strive to be. However, you should treat lockwashers like cotter pins; always use a new one. That old one may still grab, but a new one will exert more pressure.
Add grease with the part off. Once the part is on, you may not be able to angle the grease gun into position. I learned that the hard way.
you know it's gonna be good because Ray says "this is going to be a very good video"
Regarding how to pull off the arm from the pier steering shaft (on a 4x4 truck), I had luck getting a puller from Kragen. It won't work with the bolt that came with it because there is no clearance. However if you get a grade 8 short cap screw from the hardware store and screw it in upside down, it will give you the clearance to back off the arm. I would post a picture if I could.
Wow…those steering components looked to be as secure as a Boeing 737 door plug.
Awesome job👀
Completely inaccurate.. 737 doors disengaged due to missing parts.. this truck was worn the f*ck out
Thank God here in the UK we have yearly checks on vehicles where faults like these are found well before they get to this stage and then repaired or replaced. Im amazed at the state of disrepair some of the vehicles and defects that are still on the road that you have to work on Ray. !! The roads in the USA must be extremely dangerous !
I used to moan about the MOT, but after watching many USA mechanics I'm now very grateful.
Fantastic video Ray.... And the I sight with Arod was super COOL!!
Note to self, never drink coffee while watching Ray's videos. "It's probably the alternator"