Could Madara Defeat ALL The Uchiha?

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  • In this video, Swagkage and I go over Alive Madara (Hashirama battle) against the entire Uchiha clan and explain how a battle between them would go and who would win.
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  • @SethTheProgrammer
    @SethTheProgrammer  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2553

    😀😀👍

  • @guythatgoesbythenamekay7954
    @guythatgoesbythenamekay7954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4901

    If Madara's bath water would exist, Swag would take entire stock.

    • @Ole-ko8ve
      @Ole-ko8ve 3 ปีที่แล้ว +256

      Wouldn't you? if madara existed, any you got the opportunity to buy his bath water.. what kind of naruto fan are you if you wouldn't accept that..

    • @iticklefatkids5669
      @iticklefatkids5669 3 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      @@Ole-ko8ve 🗿

    • @BillThaPill
      @BillThaPill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      He would swallow his beef whole

    • @ivory867
      @ivory867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Shiiit I would to I’m ngl

    • @Lavanence
      @Lavanence 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      i mean... 😳

  • @status7505
    @status7505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +502

    “The kinkaku force are implied to not be very strong”
    - Shows a scan of tobirama saying it’s a highly skilled unit

    • @buncie2284
      @buncie2284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      They also said they weren’t reanimated but didn’t they fight darui??? Or am I on drugs

    • @daltonjones9240
      @daltonjones9240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      @@buncie2284 he meant the ENTIRE kinkaku force not just kinkaku and ginkaku

    • @dudeguy8686
      @dudeguy8686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That might get them slightly above anbu tier

    • @cloudj232
      @cloudj232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      They downplay certain characters to make them look worse to fit their narrative.

    • @TheBrooksy1999
      @TheBrooksy1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@cloudj232 Alive madara gets clapped, iv been a fan of theses guys for a while but this pissed me off

  • @Hugo_Tate
    @Hugo_Tate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    Can’t wait for the “Blind Madara vs 6 paths Kishimoto” video

  • @newman9022
    @newman9022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    “U are just a brat, nowhere near my level” - Madara

    • @newman9022
      @newman9022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @This Is What Awesome Looks Like he said it to Sasuke before he stabbed him

    • @newman9022
      @newman9022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Spare Slipstreamz facts but 6 paths Madara idk

    • @Otsutsuki_King0
      @Otsutsuki_King0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@newman9022 are you crazy adult sasuke absolutely destroys madara no debate there is facts that prove it

    • @newman9022
      @newman9022 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Spare Slipstreamz IMO I think he was referring to the trio of them not just Momoshiki individually

    • @newman9022
      @newman9022 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Otsutsuki_King0 so u saying 6 paths Madara with 2 arms has no chance vs Sasuke?

  • @raphbolt7715
    @raphbolt7715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Lets not talk about present Sauske from the Boruto manga who is missing an arm and his rinnegan whats next is he gonna go bald LMAO!!!!!!

    • @Meracog
      @Meracog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Eventually Sasuke will be a paraplegic with no eyes.

    • @tuxly4959
      @tuxly4959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Rinna GONE*

    • @Nardwock
      @Nardwock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Boruto creators: Fuck it lets make him Paralyzed

    • @AintChillGuy
      @AintChillGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Spare Slipstreamz tf u mean nigga, be glad kishi sensei even add sasugay in naruto

    • @AintChillGuy
      @AintChillGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @24 7 no one ain't naming a show “shinobi” cause sasugay... And atleast vegeta isn't a fookin emo

  • @FaeriePuck
    @FaeriePuck 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I listen to Seth and Swag on my way to and from work on my bike. Makes it almost bearable.

  • @namahshivaay5266
    @namahshivaay5266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Shisui was badass. In the game, he did Susanoo with single MS.
    But
    Madara did it with no MS.

    • @alisbaine2012
      @alisbaine2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      adara did it with no eyes leave alone ms

    • @namahshivaay5266
      @namahshivaay5266 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alisbaine2012 yeah lol

  • @goodpol5022
    @goodpol5022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *Power-scale mythology please!!!*

  • @mememe4188
    @mememe4188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nobody:
    Swag: *no black balls*

  • @AntivenomOW
    @AntivenomOW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    About the kotoamatsukami: The crow and itachi had to make eye contact to set off the jutsu so it wouldn’t be wasted on someone else, cause the crow obviously doesn’t know how to use it

    • @moonondp4173
      @moonondp4173 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      shisui ability doesnt need eye contact to put the user under its control tho

    • @AntivenomOW
      @AntivenomOW 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@moonondp4173 that’s exactly what I said. The eye contact was only needed for shisui’s eye to realize what it has to do

  • @DripCS
    @DripCS 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    please make a Prime Hiruzen Vs Hashirama Video or Even just Hiruzen Vs Hashirama, im tired of arguing with ppl in your youtube comments about this.

  • @_noname2032
    @_noname2032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "YES"
    *End of Video*

  • @Mino..233
    @Mino..233 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tobirama death is a plot hole.
    I mean he has teleportation but he didn't even used it.

  • @mirceahartmann2382
    @mirceahartmann2382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1691

    In this fight
    Sasuke:" Ni San stop killing our team"
    Itachi:" sorry old habbits"

    • @rkhaaaa
      @rkhaaaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      gg that was funny

    • @jothamtamrue323
      @jothamtamrue323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      lmaooo this comment gonna get tons of likes i already know

    • @Anonymous-pf1mb
      @Anonymous-pf1mb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      itachi just uses the clan massacre jutsu

    • @maskedshinobi4314
      @maskedshinobi4314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Bruh hell nah 😂💀

    • @_2kLee
      @_2kLee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      LMAOOO

  • @tolabassist3302
    @tolabassist3302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +790

    "We'll possibly use blind madara"
    Me: the one with hashirama cells and sage mode?

    • @tolabassist3302
      @tolabassist3302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @Dragons Dens the problem wasn't being blind. Its the hashirama cells that amped him and the sage mode that let him fight while blind

    • @NivAhmed
      @NivAhmed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      bruh kakashi cant get blind bc he has another eye

    • @robensmonteau161
      @robensmonteau161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      The one who fucked up *Sage Naruto* before becoming a sage himself?

    • @SuperWindsage
      @SuperWindsage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think this turns into a Maddara kills the entire Clan, then Bullies Itachi for a while while Obito watches and then runs away.
      do think its a bit of a mess cause we never SEE Maddara without the Rinnegan, or at least without its powers, AND without Hashirama Cells. as you so rightly pointed out.
      also funny as fuck, but im imagining Obito and Maddara both Summon the Nine Tails, both try and control it, so it just tries to kill the both of them.
      interesting question to ask, what do you think an Obito with both of his eyes, and thus also Susano could rate as?
      from what we Saw Obitos Susano is scary as fuck.

    • @lorddaraken7568
      @lorddaraken7568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL

  • @retroeyjoey1179
    @retroeyjoey1179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +747

    The reason eye contact was emphasized so much for Itachi wasn't because the jutsu required eye contact. It was because Itachi programmed Shisuis eye to activate if it saw Itachis eye. Anticipating Sasuke taking his eye.

    • @Rello0
      @Rello0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      Surprised they missed this point.

    • @Super_Quiz538
      @Super_Quiz538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Very reasonable, i don't have time to start schooling them, it's as if they just create a video for views

    • @keis7068
      @keis7068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@Super_Quiz538 well doesn’t matter anyway because it doesn’t change the outcome

    • @mafiara2133
      @mafiara2133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Exactly! Them mf’s make bad points

    • @pleasantry2.04
      @pleasantry2.04 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@mafiara2133 They literally don't remember one thing and all of a sudden all of their points are bad. Really?

  • @Quickcobalt
    @Quickcobalt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +533

    Hashirama: i just hope both teams have fun.

    • @thedon2441
      @thedon2441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @gamecell1332
      @gamecell1332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Tobirama: I hope both teams kill each other

    • @anwylconroyrebello6223
      @anwylconroyrebello6223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Orochimaru: i hope both teams eat each other

    • @andrewdrye1421
      @andrewdrye1421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@gamecell1332 init Tobirama got a hard on in this fight 🤣

    • @idieb4uwin517
      @idieb4uwin517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I love hashirama.. Favorite character.. Him and guy sensei

  • @drakefisher6317
    @drakefisher6317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    This fight is so simple, Madara solos Itachi after Itachi solo’s the rest of the Uchiha

    • @air2067
      @air2067 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The only uchiha who's truly able to 1v1 Madara is adult boruto sasuke

    • @drakefisher6317
      @drakefisher6317 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@air2067 Peak forms I agree, if you wanna get jiggy with it and mix and match, Juubito just outright manhandles any non-sage Madara. Of course that's entirely unfair and cheating, but there is a specific case where a non-Sasuke Uchiha can do it

  • @chasemula6309
    @chasemula6309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2860

    It's not pain rinnegan. They literally had Madara eyes and passing it around. Homie just wanted his eyes back

    • @kakashihatake6052
      @kakashihatake6052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +213

      I wish rinnegan was only for nagato,
      And madara, itachi, obito were the only one to have ms
      Sasuke should have just learnt many justsu, It was way cooler, Naruto also should not have gotten six oaths sage mode by sage of six paths that ruine dthe theme of hardwork
      Literally kiba could be strongest if he was born with high chakra like naruto and someone gave him six path sage mode

    • @jmarch_503
      @jmarch_503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      @@kakashihatake6052 i think there could be few tweaks but your opinion wouldn't made series "better" more likely worse because it could be near perfect and people would still find something if not a lot too change as because its subjective ..if they cut out filler replaced with better world buliding and power structure which could be described with the clans could've been way better without changing main story just better side quest

    • @thund3r682
      @thund3r682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      @@kakashihatake6052 If you have senju,Uzimaki, hyuga, or Uchiha DNA your not gonna be training hard like might guy that’s the way it was since part 1.

    • @michaelthemarvelous5186
      @michaelthemarvelous5186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ong😂

    • @andrewsalazar98
      @andrewsalazar98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @This Is What Awesome Looks Like You’re supposed to mix the blood of the two reincarnations of the sons of Kaguya.

  • @dusanvukcevic2640
    @dusanvukcevic2640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +770

    Tobirama be like: Madara finally doing something useful

  • @The1Monty
    @The1Monty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2317

    The only person that can beat Madara is Kishimoto, as shown in the War Arc

    • @imnick693
      @imnick693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Cough Aizen Cough Cough Aizen

    • @hotsauce6789
      @hotsauce6789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Nah, the hints are just too subtle.
      Just remember the final bosses of War Arc were Twisted Ghost Lady, a Parasite, and unconscious/sleeping Uchiha Vessel. Now good luck watching AoT

    • @danielgedeon6454
      @danielgedeon6454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@imnick693 he gets clapped

    • @Zaza420islit
      @Zaza420islit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Adult naruto has every tailed beast chakra six paths chakra six paths sage mode full mastery of kcm over 95 releases over 120 jutsu and sage mode and summon

    • @micah3080
      @micah3080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      And The Ramen Guy. Not to mention one cough from itatchi will make him lose

  • @BruhhOoh
    @BruhhOoh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    Sakura can’t get a fight scene but she can get a novel

    • @AK-yv1kp
      @AK-yv1kp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I mean she has a pretty dope fight in that novel lol

    • @sangwootheanklebreaker4646
      @sangwootheanklebreaker4646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Cause the story is about narutoa nd sasuke but whenever she has fights she's awesome specially in the shin uchiha arc

    • @sunjinwooisthebestprotagon3537
      @sunjinwooisthebestprotagon3537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sangwootheanklebreaker4646 you're a girl right

    • @Tinytimday
      @Tinytimday 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sangwootheanklebreaker4646 Sakura literally made fun of an orphan in front of an orphan

    • @diefastgg9376
      @diefastgg9376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Tinytimday dont forget kakashi was one too

  • @Redacted_Ruler
    @Redacted_Ruler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +866

    Seth: “wait it’s all madara?”
    Swag: (pulls out gun)
    Swag: *always has been...*

    • @new777new3
      @new777new3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmaooo

    • @Thenamelessgod-cz9em
      @Thenamelessgod-cz9em 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂

    • @Prometheus-x1w
      @Prometheus-x1w 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Itachi Is superior to you I hate Sasuke, Madara and Itachi

    • @Prometheus-x1w
      @Prometheus-x1w 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @This Is What Awesome Looks Like jk

    • @Prometheus-x1w
      @Prometheus-x1w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @This Is What Awesome Looks Like
      tbh the Uchiha's are overrated

  • @NinjaMinkzx
    @NinjaMinkzx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +502

    Includes Madara vs Madara, so Madara still always wins.

    • @pampanamonick7076
      @pampanamonick7076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      FAX

    • @DBZUchiha
      @DBZUchiha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How about Madara Vs Vegeta

    • @loweit4842
      @loweit4842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@DBZUchiha no wayyy?? Vegetas an uchihaaa?? Omgg

    • @liltwistedgamer
      @liltwistedgamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t know I think Madara will win.

    • @Beast-ii2rq
      @Beast-ii2rq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@liltwistedgamer nah

  • @borismayr9079
    @borismayr9079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1501

    I get the feeling that swag and Seth are slowly running out of ideas for Naruto videos and are starting to come up with some really crazy ideas, and I'm all for it

    • @Dragoncraft14
      @Dragoncraft14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Things like these r just quick anf fun things like with the lee vid and stuff

    • @thebreadfetish2370
      @thebreadfetish2370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @Rlaziken not really lmao they just do so many disservices to the people who liked naruto

    • @user-qg1dh6sz6q
      @user-qg1dh6sz6q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Doesn't matter wtf Swag talks about I could listen to his voice 24/7

    • @if7723
      @if7723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Rlaziken duck you bring my fox back

    • @JACQUEZ23
      @JACQUEZ23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@holycrusader8856 hell yeah

  • @sinvaas
    @sinvaas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Even though it's probably true, hearing "shisui gets blitzed" doesn't feel right

    • @joshua2400
      @joshua2400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ikr
      God Christ Jesus bless you, have a great day

    • @edbotikx
      @edbotikx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Levi Ackerman that was not the madara in the video

    • @thepieofyourlife4799
      @thepieofyourlife4799 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@edbotikx
      Just revived Madara(still regaining his powers, with no eyes!!!
      Could kick Sai and Naruto(sage mode), without Naruto being able to react to it(except for just raising his arm to barely block), and knocked Naruto so hard that he knocked down Naruto for a while in 1 kick.
      You really think Shisui could do something? The dude got blinded by danzo (who got wrecked by Sasuke who just fought the Raikage!)
      And you know how fast Naruto is

    • @killaqueen357
      @killaqueen357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thepieofyourlife4799 Shisui's technique is so fast he's legit called. "Shisui the teleporter" Yeah he's blitzing Madara. And don't talk about Danzo, he was poisoned like 50 times. It was stated so in the manga.

    • @killaqueen357
      @killaqueen357 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Levi Ackerman "Shisui the teleporter"

  • @IsDane
    @IsDane 3 ปีที่แล้ว +738

    The Title: Madara vs all Uchiha
    The Video: Would Kotoamatsukami work on Madara?

    • @Cain_The_Hoarder
      @Cain_The_Hoarder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Btw no, because of rinnegan and susani

    • @Shaboingedy
      @Shaboingedy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@Cain_The_Hoarder never implied that either of those can counter the strongest genjutsu in the series 🤷‍♂️. Koto worked on Itachi with MS, could work on Rinnegan but who knows. As for the Susanoo there's nothing at all to ever imply that it could protect from genjutsu. Only time it's happened in the series is when Sasuke blocked the Infinite Tsukuyome with it and even Madara was surprised by it so it more than likely means that it's because Sasuke's rinnegan is special.

    • @DS-dw3pz
      @DS-dw3pz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@Cain_The_Hoarder bruh.. I think you guys horribly misinterpreted tht susanoo and rinnegan can block genjitsu.. Sasuke Susanoo blocked infinite tsukuyomi because his susanoo blocked the light from the infinite tsukuyomi bt other genjitsu like tsukuyomi and kotoamatsuka does nt work tht way and also the only reason sasuke blocked was because his rinnegan was different than a normal rinnegan

    • @offyoshi6193
      @offyoshi6193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Cain_The_Hoarder did u not watch the video they said no rinnegan

    • @NivAhmed
      @NivAhmed 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      69 likes noice

  • @ReinhardVonLohengram
    @ReinhardVonLohengram 3 ปีที่แล้ว +725

    Girls : He's probably cheating on me
    Me And Boys:

    • @Zaza420islit
      @Zaza420islit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The boys probably cheater on her with each other while watching

    • @Prometheus-x1w
      @Prometheus-x1w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Madara is badass, idgaf about girls hahahaha

    • @madaraiswayaboveyou1234
      @madaraiswayaboveyou1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Itachi Is superior to you Kishimoto said, "All people, even the strongest ones, have weakness, however, Madara does not."

    • @madaraiswayaboveyou1234
      @madaraiswayaboveyou1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Itachi Is superior to you Perfect Susanoo gg

    • @madaraiswayaboveyou1234
      @madaraiswayaboveyou1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Prometheus-x1w Madara > Girls

  • @goldmamba9719
    @goldmamba9719 3 ปีที่แล้ว +447

    The Uchiha be trading their eyes more than me and the boys trading our pokemon cards.

    • @holyknightatlas1306
      @holyknightatlas1306 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      😂 facts

    • @ItachiUchiha-ld4jh
      @ItachiUchiha-ld4jh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Frfr

    • @Prometheus-x1w
      @Prometheus-x1w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Danzo be like -
      Imma grab those Uchiha's eyeballs and put them in my a**h*le

    • @thedon2441
      @thedon2441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Prometheus-x1w o so you know about the ancient technique only two people pulled it off in the show donzo and madrara

    • @thund3r682
      @thund3r682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Danzo is so cheeks man had 10 izanagi and a daily spamable kotoamatsukami and lost.

  • @GhostVomit1
    @GhostVomit1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    The fact that no one else said it was weird because sasuke has itatchis eyes but Madara had his brothers eyes too in the version they’re talking about

    • @IlluminateAF
      @IlluminateAF 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea, fax

    • @DoThingsYk
      @DoThingsYk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It’s weird because they’re also including itachi. So it’s not like he could fight them both since they’re using the same eyes. The reason it’s not weird for madaras brother is cuz he doesn’t really make a difference regardless due to being essentially fodder

    • @therealest7179
      @therealest7179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@DoThingsYk They didn't use EMS sasuke, just MS. But they proceeded to use EMS Madara with 9tails with Hashirama cells and Sage mode cause....idk unfair is fair ig.

    • @abdes6234
      @abdes6234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@therealest7179 that was in the ned of the video when they were comparing tan tails obito, however alive madara had the nine tails under his control, perfect susano and fought budah summon, golem summon and wood dragon summon to a stand still. There is no way that The Uchiha are going to beat him.

    • @therealest7179
      @therealest7179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@abdes6234 But the thing is Madara wouldn't have had a perfect susanoo if he didn't have EMS. Also the 9tails isn't his own power nor is Hashirama's cells nor sage mode which they used in the comparison with alot of others.

  • @Nareto64
    @Nareto64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    The reason why the crow had to look Itachi in the eye in order to activate Kotoamatsukami was because the activation conditions for that jutsu that Itachi set up was that it was to activate in the presence of Itachi's Mangekyo Sharingan. It had to visually confirm that it was Itachi's Sharingan in order to activate Kotoamatsukami, but not because Kotoamatsukami itself requires eye contact.

    • @WhiteHazelnut
      @WhiteHazelnut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yea because shisui didnt have to look everyone in the village in their eyes while casting his jutsu

    • @fidencionino9930
      @fidencionino9930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The guys got a point

    • @Nareto64
      @Nareto64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Spare Slipstreamz Seems likely

    • @samehphopal5299
      @samehphopal5299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Absolute facts. Hope Seth or Swag look at this.

    • @WhiteHazelnut
      @WhiteHazelnut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @Spare Slipstreamz idk cause itachi was younger than him and he was catching up to him fast during sparring and in missions

  • @vynperm
    @vynperm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    Meant to click something else but the noti popped up and I ended up here. Not dissapointed

  • @braineamoguis7395
    @braineamoguis7395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    Madara: You can't touch me, you're not Hashirama

    • @rslwannabe9475
      @rslwannabe9475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did madara ever come back from the dead?

    • @Tlaqe
      @Tlaqe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rslwannabe9475 😂

    • @rslwannabe9475
      @rslwannabe9475 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tlaqe :(

    • @reeverfalls2069
      @reeverfalls2069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Itachi Is superior to you no lol. Kishi never said that itachi would kill madara. And you do realize that... Itachi Was brought back during the war. He was there lmao

    • @dylansmith1180
      @dylansmith1180 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reeverfalls2069 Yes, and you do realize the reasons given for why Itachi is inferior to Madara are always his taijutsu? Care to remind me what happened during the war arc when Itachi was revived? Oh right, he pushed back Naruto in his completed 9 tails form (ya know the one faster than the Raikage) WITH taijutsu.... It's true, Kishimoto never said that. He did however say Itachi possessed the strongest visual prowess. (Not in a direct interview, but by writing lines into the manga several times)

  • @spacelp2125
    @spacelp2125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    this video is literally just debating 18 minutes if shisui's kotoamatsukami works on madara or not, because everything else is close to irrelevant

    • @isshiki4005
      @isshiki4005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So true lmao, I mean other Uchihas are literally useless against Madara

    • @dragonsmoke16418
      @dragonsmoke16418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@isshiki4005 obito the only one who stands a chance, so everyone else is useless

    • @isshiki4005
      @isshiki4005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dragonsmoke16418 yeah ur right but still he loses

    • @dragonsmoke16418
      @dragonsmoke16418 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@isshiki4005 not really, especially if you're using an unnerfed obito. Anyway, 1 ms obito can just transport everyone or one person to the kamui dimension and just stay there until baryon runs out, after that's the only real issue. Madara and obito can kill the others with relative ease besides for hashirama obviously

    • @dragonsmoke16418
      @dragonsmoke16418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@isshiki4005 dude im tripping lmao this is madara vs all uchiha. Well the uchiha can really win by any one of them except for obito sacrificing their sharigan for izanami and make madara go into a genjustsu

  • @Snoozytube
    @Snoozytube 3 ปีที่แล้ว +593

    "Shisui ain't sannin level"
    "Stronger than fugaku who may be kage level"
    Wait what?

    • @Black-nf3tx
      @Black-nf3tx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I think they mean below sannin but above kage. Like in between

    • @whiteglint8714
      @whiteglint8714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Kage level is relative. Is it not?

    • @Black-nf3tx
      @Black-nf3tx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      @@whiteglint8714 I'm pretty sure that standard kage level is below sannin. Like the level of power you need to be considered for the position of kage. They are saying Fugaku is kage level because he was one of the main candidates for the position of 4th hokage.

    • @bankzzeli9283
      @bankzzeli9283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Kakashi was kage and was weaker than all the sannin

    • @tommygunn5629
      @tommygunn5629 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly what i just said!

  • @UTU
    @UTU 3 ปีที่แล้ว +953

    Blind Itachi takes out any Madara cause BATMAN!

    • @Oneshoe_IV
      @Oneshoe_IV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      What a funny joke!! -_-

    • @imflyweair
      @imflyweair 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao

    • @closegripbenchpress489
      @closegripbenchpress489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @This Is What Awesome Looks Like batman is not overrated, he has feats to back him up. just like itachi

    • @closegripbenchpress489
      @closegripbenchpress489 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Spare Slipstreamz batman feats beats most "normal superheros" so no, he's as strong as he is because thats his character. is like saying naruto is strong because hes an orphan, thats his character.

    • @badassproductions4734
      @badassproductions4734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@holycrusader8856 dear god those sakuratards are everywhere help

  • @kekwkekw484
    @kekwkekw484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    That's wierd. All I heard was slurping sounds.

    • @julianbg7846
      @julianbg7846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yo thats messed up lmao

    • @Stan2171
      @Stan2171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😭🤣

    • @Pprototype.
      @Pprototype. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lmaoo trueee

    • @dylansmith1180
      @dylansmith1180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      For real... They say Itachi is weak in Taijutsu, didn't edo Itachi hold his own, and even push back (with taijutsu) Naruto in his completed 9 tails form? (rhetorical) Ya know, the form faster than the Raikage.... When it comes to blowing Madara these two are always spot on.

    • @pukadon81
      @pukadon81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @This Is What Awesome Looks Like when did he confirm it

  • @mohammedmaster672
    @mohammedmaster672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +336

    Tobirama: for the first time I want madara to win. More uchihas dead win win situation

    • @Prometheus-x1w
      @Prometheus-x1w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lmao

    • @Jeremyhughes86
      @Jeremyhughes86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Spare Slipstreamz you're naming Uchiha he never met... he didn't respect Shisui or Itachi, he didn't know them. Tobirama actually name drops a Uchicha he respected and you think this means he respects two he didn't know. nah fan, he respected their way of life, but since they never met personally, they could never earn Tobirama's respect. the only one there you might get is, maybe Sasuke's efforts earned him respect.
      though, to be honest. Tobirama probably respects the whole clan more than anyone realizes. he respected their power enough that he gave them important roles in the village, like the police force. though this eventually came to be seen as a slight, and blew up in everyone's face. beyond that though, he took their power into account, decided he didn't want a Uchicha uprising to face all that power, and made them all enforcers because of it. that's respect. his hard nose policies toward the clan isn't a lack of respect ... it's a deep respect of an enemy he has faced all his life in battle.

    • @sathvikbhaskar9756
      @sathvikbhaskar9756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jeremyhughes86 but definitely sasuke tho

    • @Jeremyhughes86
      @Jeremyhughes86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sathvikbhaskar9756 yes, as an allied combatant fighting for the leaf. I imagine he respected him for that certainly. he would have respected the ideals of the others in a general sense, but not them though, not personally.

    • @Jeremyhughes86
      @Jeremyhughes86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Itachi Is superior to you "loved" and "always praising him" considering Tobirama literally no knew Sasuke less then 48 hours...he didn't know him long enough to develop those kinds of emotions. and somehow saying Sasuke reminds him of Madara's dead brother means that he too, Tobirama is a Sasuktard.

  • @skyrogue1977
    @skyrogue1977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Regarding the crow with Shisui’s eye, didn’t Itachi say that it was made to respond to Itachi’s eyes specifically? Because it was originally intended to be used on Sasuke incase he became a threat.

    • @kevincommings8394
      @kevincommings8394 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes he stated that, but Itachi rigged it to perform as such.

    • @deathstro9763
      @deathstro9763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@kevincommings8394 yeah disregard them saying koto requires eye contact because it doesn’t

    • @djghostface292
      @djghostface292 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, that’s exactly what Itachi said

  • @cbroo69
    @cbroo69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +244

    "the perfect Susano is so tall i doubt Shisui would be able to see"
    Yeah im sure the Sharingan user has trouble seeing great distances...If thats the case then Madara can't see them either

    • @TheDoc525
      @TheDoc525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Xd😂

    • @WhiteHazelnut
      @WhiteHazelnut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Lmaoo right madara must be blind sitting at the top of susanoo🤣. A normal shinobi can see very far, its crazy to think an uchiha couldnt especially someone like shisui who was arguably the strongest uchiha alive during his time.

    • @jareddanielcunanan4303
      @jareddanielcunanan4303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@WhiteHazelnut hes like blindly slicing his susano blade vs the 5 hokages and hes like: Did i hit them or did i accidently destroy a mountain again?

    • @Yaegz05
      @Yaegz05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right? These guys can have a conversation speaking at normal volume from half way across a battlefield.

    • @frostedge2896
      @frostedge2896 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      man you know when sasuke was fighting obito 10 tails and fighting naruto he was flying random places when he used indras arrow he was wondering if it did anything

  • @anshulgandra1019
    @anshulgandra1019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    Wait, wait hear me out....
    “Legends say, kurenai’s next plan was to drown kisame”

    • @TheNarwhal784
      @TheNarwhal784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      i mean he can drown if he doesnt fuse with samehada, he can only breathe underwater when fused with it
      sry for ruining the joke, i still liked it, pls dont be mad at me
      😳
      👉👈

    • @anshulgandra1019
      @anshulgandra1019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@TheNarwhal784 it’s all good

    • @TheNarwhal784
      @TheNarwhal784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@anshulgandra1019 we need more ppl like you in this world that doesn't get mad when someone ruins their jokes (i dont do that very often tho) thx for being understanding

    • @nzuz169
      @nzuz169 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @farts8351
      @farts8351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wait, since she's good at genjutsu...
      What if her "fake Sharingan" is actually a real Sharingan?

  • @Xjr555kid
    @Xjr555kid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    I feel like the most inconsistent thing that comes uo when y'all debate Is the Kinkaku Ginkaku force. I just watched the video about Uchiha vs Kage and y'all we're like. "These were 20 Elite Jonin. The equivalent of Asuma Guy and Kurenai. All the more impressive Tobirama held them off." Now they're fodder.
    I'm not trying to be critical but this one thing is so consistently inconsistent it fascinates me.

    • @seanbaby1060
      @seanbaby1060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Compared to Madara they are fodder but I get what you’re saying and that’s a trend of their channel sometime they are mad inconsistent with power scaling.

    • @cloudj232
      @cloudj232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      They do that all the time. They will overrate a certain character to make the character they are backing look stronger or completely downplay another character to make the other party look weaker. I'm yet to watch a video of them where there's no contradiction.

    • @seanbaby1060
      @seanbaby1060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@cloudj232 they do it to push a narrative but I still find their content entertaining regardless

    • @Xjr555kid
      @Xjr555kid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@cloudj232 I don't know if I'd go that far. Itachi vs Minato for example tends to be pretty consistent. I think it might have to do that's it's easier to be inconsistent with stuff we don't have a lot of info on. Like Fugaku for example.

    • @cloudj232
      @cloudj232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Xjr555kid That was 3 years ago when they actually put effort in those if battle. The last 1,5 year it’s hard to find a video where there’s no bias.

  • @aztank
    @aztank 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    havent finished the video but i bet he'll be simping for madara
    edit: called it!

  • @syne4771
    @syne4771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Short answer: Madara wins
    Long answer: lol Madara wins

  • @rayeedniazkhan1492
    @rayeedniazkhan1492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    You guys misinterpreted the susanoo blocking all genjutsu. It was heavily implied by black zetsu and even sasuke himself that his left eye rinnegan was the reason his susanoo could block the genjutsu not just anyone with perfect susanoo.
    Black Zetsu stated " His rinnegan can even block this genjutsu"
    And sasuke stated,
    "We are not affected only becuase my left eye prepared this susanoo"
    Correct me if I am wrong

    • @ColgatetheTogekiss
      @ColgatetheTogekiss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I mean this Madara has the rinnegan anyways so it doesn’t really matter, but fair point nonetheless

    • @mikey5808
      @mikey5808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@ColgatetheTogekiss but madara’s rinnegan came when he was at old age, i’m not done with the vid but if they didn’t talk about old ages madara then he can’t use it

    • @tdizzle8757
      @tdizzle8757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ColgatetheTogekiss they agreed that it was dms madara no six paths

    • @shisuigaming9701
      @shisuigaming9701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @This Is What Awesome Looks Like good
      Joke

    • @ziggibear1920
      @ziggibear1920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ColgatetheTogekiss yea but sasuke's rinnegan is obviously different from madara's normal rinnegan

  • @reese4627
    @reese4627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Man i like these videos but EVERY *SINGLE* time you talk about Tobirama scaling the story changes 🤦🏽‍♂️
    One video: “oh he got slapped by ginkaku kinkaku force hes fodder”
    The next video: “Well we may have understated these guys there were 20 S rank ninja like this is basically 20 akatsuki level enemies so its not even that much of an antifeat”
    The video after that: “Lol he lost to the ginkaku kinkaku force”
    🤔 *??? Pick one*

    • @lore2587
      @lore2587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fr😂

    • @prometheusmodelow8322
      @prometheusmodelow8322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      lol true.

    • @norbit6780
      @norbit6780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Swag and Seth are horrible inconsistent scalers

    • @rafaeladami4151
      @rafaeladami4151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They've been doing it for years tho, it's just getting more and more evident

    • @yourareoneiam2bythewayhowa744
      @yourareoneiam2bythewayhowa744 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, someone notices. But their fanboys don't care. Right or Wrong 🚶🏿

  • @greyquestions5030
    @greyquestions5030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Itachi: I could kill the entire uchiha clan
    Madara: Hold my eyes

    • @mainelettuce9040
      @mainelettuce9040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its comments like these that a bunch people don't like that are the ones that i REALLY ENJOY LOL LOL LOL.

    • @thund3r682
      @thund3r682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Itachi: I ran Duos and Obito carry me

    • @rohittongare5698
      @rohittongare5698 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      whats kcm2?

    • @Who_Is_Cloud
      @Who_Is_Cloud 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Obito: "So I was spamming Kamui, Right?"

    • @aimanmahmud9046
      @aimanmahmud9046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Thanos Adult sasuke stomps Madara EZ. I have respect for Madara but Adult Sasuke is on another level. But Adult sasuke lacks feat unfortunately.

  • @supershabby3859
    @supershabby3859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Rinnengan Sasuke cuts madara in half.
    Madara: u shud have gone for the head

    • @mr.j9125
      @mr.j9125 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sasuke: My bad*cuts his head open *

    • @xtceret8261
      @xtceret8261 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

  • @nothingman7163
    @nothingman7163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Am I the only one who really thinks it’s super funny how swags is just constantly eating in these recent videos 😂

    • @stealtha1234
      @stealtha1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He ate in this video ??😂😂

    • @nothingman7163
      @nothingman7163 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Pk Shaz no lmao just google

  • @kingjaries
    @kingjaries 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    All those eyes and none of the Uchiha could see Itachi's betrayal.

    • @narutospersona426
      @narutospersona426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is it really betrayal? You dont call zuko a traitor, sure he might be a traitor to the fire nation but he betrayed the evil guys

    • @shisuigaming9701
      @shisuigaming9701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@narutospersona426 the uchiha were never evil tho so itachi is a trader

    • @sen737
      @sen737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@shisuigaming9701 Itachi isn’t a traitor, Itachi killed his entire clan because a civil war was going to happen and ta ton of people were going to die. Itachi thought of himself being “Itachi of the leaf” and then later went out in disguise and infiltrated the Akatsuki for the Leaf.

    • @Artwolf007
      @Artwolf007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not really betrayal, just him getting played by danzo

    • @JamirQuest
      @JamirQuest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GO TO HELL lol

  • @xeli3046
    @xeli3046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Madara Vs Uchiha
    Outcome:... Hashirama wins...

    • @JesseGolo
      @JesseGolo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What a twist.

    • @yopoodah5090
      @yopoodah5090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your 1 of those

  • @johnnyvirtues
    @johnnyvirtues 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    For madara absorbing hashirama while not having rinnegan it was always my head cannon that if you awaken your own it elevates you to a certain realm where the abilities are kinda Inate like how madara can use susanoo with no eyes

  • @spiral7576
    @spiral7576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Nearly the entire first half of the video is just discussing how to get around shisui and that's just amazing

    • @robensmonteau161
      @robensmonteau161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      It's literally the only possible way for them to win *(Not including Rinnegan Sasuke).*

    • @AlanJia8
      @AlanJia8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robensmonteau161 nooo

    • @robensmonteau161
      @robensmonteau161 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlanJia8 Yeeees.
      I can't tell if you're serious, so sorry if you aren't.

    • @AlanJia8
      @AlanJia8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@robensmonteau161 I am. Genjutsu is their best bet. Kotoamatsukami Madara into the totsuka blade, he can't izanagi out of that.

    • @reaper8264
      @reaper8264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robensmonteau161 Also Itachi can just put him under a Genjutsu because I doubt Madara knows Itachi's tsukuyomi so he wouldn't just blitz him or Shisui he would mostly go after his brother and Sasuke becuase he knows what they do entirely which makes since because Madara never blitz people he doesn't know anything about.

  • @brandonharrison60162
    @brandonharrison60162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    The more I listen to seth the more I see how inconsistent his scaling is. Always making his scaling work for him, but has rebuttal these same scalings for other characters.

    • @djghostface292
      @djghostface292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Be careful, the Swag and Seth fanboys might attack you

    • @majora919
      @majora919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I've noticed this. I commented on a few of his vids but was largely ignored. They can't make up their mind on obito vs minato (first encounter)

    • @thund3r682
      @thund3r682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      His scaling for Fugaku is cheeks

    • @corycount1598
      @corycount1598 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s why he’s known as a good debater....?

    • @djghostface292
      @djghostface292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@corycount1598 they’ve arrived

  • @raymondrickman274
    @raymondrickman274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +417

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought we weren’t using rinnegan amps. And if so, the perfect susanoo wouldn’t block out shisui genjutsu because it was heavily implied that the rinnegan was the reason the tsyukoyomi didn’t work

    • @kobiiscoolerthanyou7877
      @kobiiscoolerthanyou7877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      Look that didn't help daddy madara so it wasn't included, we all know Seth's mouth and throat is for one uchiha only

    • @JohnDoe-es1rk
      @JohnDoe-es1rk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Madara said getting hit by the light was what trapped people in the genjutsu
      The rinnegan allowed sasuke to make his susano opaque so light couldn’t penetrate it that’s all that doesent mean the rinnegan is genjutsu proof by any means at all
      Also kakashi vs obito kakashi uses genjutsu on obito so clearly it’s rinnegan isn’t immune to genjutsu

    • @kobiiscoolerthanyou7877
      @kobiiscoolerthanyou7877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tnb4509 oh yeah definitely both of them

    • @kobiiscoolerthanyou7877
      @kobiiscoolerthanyou7877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JohnDoe-es1rk when did he use genjutsu on obito?

    • @JohnDoe-es1rk
      @JohnDoe-es1rk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kobiiscoolerthanyou7877 before they start using only taijustsu and got into the kamui dimension and are talking if u watch the go back and watch the episode u will see
      Sorry I don’t have ep numbers

  • @Zack-lt4dx
    @Zack-lt4dx ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damn imma miss these videos with these two. Seth sucks now

    • @hammahdolo4502
      @hammahdolo4502 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fr I miss the vids when they were together but Seth just childish imo

    • @uzer141
      @uzer141 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same I miss these collab videos 😭 they were a dynamic duo. I enjoyed these videos so much during my lunch and when I did hw, but now it has come to an end for the most horrific reasons

  • @DRSTCMSUR
    @DRSTCMSUR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I have a feeling madara still claps cheeks. Madara is just a dimensional tier above these fodder I meant Uchiha

  • @thund3r682
    @thund3r682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    I don’t think kid itachi is stronger than Fugaku he was a war veteran with mangekyou sharingan capable of taming complete kurama.

    • @boosted17gaming59
      @boosted17gaming59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Supposedly able too, he never did it tho so we’ll never truly know besides his own claimed words and the trust of his clan

    • @TheBlazingKnight1
      @TheBlazingKnight1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@boosted17gaming59 the elders and danzo believe it to so it's pretty confirmed

    • @MrYoungzay
      @MrYoungzay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Facts, I definitely don’t think young Itachi is stronger than Fugaku

    • @harshaggarwal1918
      @harshaggarwal1918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      well he was getting compared to minato, so of course he's stronger than kid itachi

    • @GhostLeviathan_
      @GhostLeviathan_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That was filler

  • @Dmobley9901
    @Dmobley9901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Honestly, I think the Uchiha would stand more a of a chance if almost all of them didn't die or peak before they reached 30 years old. Itachi was partially blind and crippled by the time he was in his twenties, Shisui didn't even reach his 20s, Sasuke would've been easier to compare if he didn't get rinnegan God mode before he was even 18. And Obito spent most of his adult life plotting rather than training as far as we know.
    The Uchiha rarely ever grow before they either spike massively in power because protagonist or kick the bucket. A lot of the power scaling in Naruto starts losing it's meaning or interest when things start depending less on skill and more become "who has the most OP power up this week?"

    • @Arbiter8655
      @Arbiter8655 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Basically what dragonball become, but Naruto still always had a more intricate nature compared to db combat

    • @mrjoestar2862
      @mrjoestar2862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s exactly why Madaras so strong, he was born into an era of constant war and was able to survive up until adulthood when many young Uchiha die in war

  • @trevionhenderson5721
    @trevionhenderson5721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Keep in mind Itachi set up the eye in the crow to activate kotoamatasukami upon seeing his sharingan since he knew Sasuke would take his eyes. That said, of course Itachi knew he was under the genjutsu, he effectively put himself under it

  • @LordChrome375
    @LordChrome375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    Madara stomps. Didn’t even need to watch the video to figure that out. If it’s Boruto Sasuke then yeah it’s just Sasuke vs Madara and Sasuke would win.

    • @Dressing007
      @Dressing007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You are wrong becuse Itachi has izanagi and Better sharingan. Itachi is also very smart. Six paths Madara could win against Itachi but it's close.

    • @MARCM0DE
      @MARCM0DE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      @@Dressing007 Bro no

    • @brunosanchez3427
      @brunosanchez3427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      @@Dressing007 this is a meme, right?

    • @thatguyjy7704
      @thatguyjy7704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@Dressing007 not close at all he stomps

    • @LordChrome375
      @LordChrome375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@Dressing007 bro what

  • @hughjazz739
    @hughjazz739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    Obviously we aren’t counting Izumi Uchiha the true pride of the clan. She would stop Madara with ease.

    • @punkcobi8953
      @punkcobi8953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Ofc she's too strong

    • @hughjazz739
      @hughjazz739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @This Is What Awesome Looks Like false information detected

    • @Renz0K
      @Renz0K 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @This Is What Awesome Looks Like i would simp for itachi too 😋

    • @BruceWayne-gv2bh
      @BruceWayne-gv2bh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@punkcobi8953 how? 😂

    • @BruceWayne-gv2bh
      @BruceWayne-gv2bh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Madara killed that ho. 😭This all happened in a fraction of one second, this was too much for her brain to handle and she died. But in the anime, Tobi, well “Madara” killed her and by what he said in his dialogue with her, he presumably took her eyes.

  • @romaizdabeer713
    @romaizdabeer713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +530

    Ok this video has a lot of major problems
    1) The kotoamatsukami does not require the user to look directly in the eyes of the one it's supposed to be used on. The only reason the crow had to really look itno Itachi's eyes was because Itachi himself had programmed the sharingan to react to his own MS and place Sasuke(who he assumed would go rouge) into a genjutsu forcing him to protect konoha similar to how he had programmed Sasuke's MS to react to Obito and insta yeet him.
    2) The perfect Susanoo doesn't block genjutsu. It was clearly stated in both the manga and anime that Sasuke's susanoo could block the IT due to his rennigan by both himself and Zetsu.
    3) EMS Sasuke also has a perfect susanoo if you forgot for reason.
    4) You underplay Obito to a disgusting extent. For starters his fire style was equal to Madra's in the War Arc which means he was somewhat relative to his teacher even without the Juubi and no it wasn't because of some rinnegan amp but INFACT it was stated that the rinnegan was taking a huge toll on his body and chakara reserves. In his fight with KCM2 Naruto, 7 Gate Guy and MS Kakashi he only used his MS and he was still having a walk in the park. So no way is he getting blitzed. Infact even in the orange marks his speed feats are insane as he saved Sasuke from death and teleported out without anyone even noticing and he kept up with Minato while 14 and controlling the kyuubi with just one MS. Not to mention Madara has no answer to Kamaui and Obito just has to touch Madara for it to be an instant KO
    5) The Tobirama scalling was wack. For starters the war arc battle between them wasnt on fair ground as Madara had both Hashirama cells and Sage mode while tobirama was an edo. Also the naruto and sasuke he fought after their fight with Obito were completely out of steam with Naruto in particular supplying chakara to an ENTIRE ARMY at that point.
    6) Since a susanoo can be stacked on top of another chakara avatar, theoretically Itachi could stack his humanoid susanoo with the TB and Yatamir on top of Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo not to mention Obito could stack kamaui on top as well.
    7) Itachi's IQ..... seeing all the factors above it's not impossible to think that Itachi comes up with a way to get either Shishui or Obito in range to instant KO him
    8) Also isn't it disingenuous to give Madara the 9 tails and not Obito.
    Yet even considering all these factors I still think Madara would win with very very high difficulty. It won't be anything close to the fondle stomp he had with the five kage

    • @crazybl1tz88
      @crazybl1tz88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      im pretty sure its called humanoid susanoo, not full susanoo, for the ems part

    • @prometheusmodelow8322
      @prometheusmodelow8322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Madara scales above Tobirama easily, if he can rival Hashirama with Sage Mode to a standstill, while Tobirama can't even compete with regular Hashirama's raw power, i don't understand how it's even a question.

    • @ftdfijturidtunyjhuif
      @ftdfijturidtunyjhuif 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He also somewat over played teen itachi and teen shisui who both get blitzed by madara if were being honest espically saying itachi way stronger then fugalu even tho im fairly aure in one of thier fugaku videos they state itachi himself wasnt sure if he could beat fugaku (atated by itachi himself in the light novel) just pointing that out

    • @crazybl1tz88
      @crazybl1tz88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@ftdfijturidtunyjhuif i had a stroke reading this

    • @prometheusmodelow8322
      @prometheusmodelow8322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ftdfijturidtunyjhuif If we consider Edo Madara, who is nerfed physically compared to his alive form, is casually faster than KCM 2, there's no way in hell he's getting matched by poor Shisui and Itachi in speed, Itachi just may be remotely close to KCM 1 by that brief exchange he had against a not full powered Naruto, it's not even close to what Madara has shown.
      So yeah, alive Madara blitzes Itachi.

  • @vastolorde1910
    @vastolorde1910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    madara blitzed most of them, and then low diff others

  • @foshokage820
    @foshokage820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Alternate title: Madara vs Shisui and the rest of the Uchiha

    • @Lh0000
      @Lh0000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I mean... is it really an In-accurate title? Shisui’s hax is literally The only thing even remotely close to madara’s ludicrous level of power.

    • @foshokage820
      @foshokage820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Lh0000 I don’t think genjustu casted by someone of Shisui’s power would have an affect on Madara. Also, I don’t think the genjustu would work with his perfect Susano activated.

    • @Lh0000
      @Lh0000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Derpy Dragonite
      Oh no, I agree with you on that. I was just saying that genjutsu is really the only thing actually worth talking about. Ya know?

    • @foshokage820
      @foshokage820 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lh0000 Yeah, I understand

    • @namahshivaay5266
      @namahshivaay5266 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@foshokage820 shisui's genjutsu will work on madara but not with susanoo on.

  • @GreaterMinds-nm6jg
    @GreaterMinds-nm6jg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    When they said no god mode and stating the stages they gonna use i knew this was a madara simp vid😂

    • @norbit6780
      @norbit6780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      You can tell they were bias because they didn’t even use Rinnegan Obito, yet they used a revived Madara who has a steroid Hashirama sage amp lmao. I do agree however that revived sage Madara stomps the Uchiha but Alive EMS Madara would definitely lose.

    • @TheJoJSooS
      @TheJoJSooS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Madara is gonna get us bank on this vid* fixed it for you

    • @levistokes1827
      @levistokes1827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They said nothing about the Kishimoto saying he killed off Itachi because he would have so easily defeated Madara.

    • @norbit6780
      @norbit6780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@levistokes1827 no that’s a rumour, Itachi gets stomped by Madara.

    • @norbit6780
      @norbit6780 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@levistokes1827 the Uchiha would win against alive ems Madara though

  • @supersaiyangodvegtio9590
    @supersaiyangodvegtio9590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Adult sasuke stomps madara

  • @NaturalHypertrophy
    @NaturalHypertrophy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    *Itachi fanboys incoming in 3, 2, 1....*

    • @KingDami1999
      @KingDami1999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Shisui fanboys too with the Kotoamatsukami lmao

    • @Prometheus-x1w
      @Prometheus-x1w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      "tOTsUkA bLadE gg!"

    • @wisekrown864
      @wisekrown864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KingDami1999 lmfao

    • @kenyattafrazier
      @kenyattafrazier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Prometheus-x1w people like you are just as annoying as the Itachitards, you start downplaying the potency of Itachi just because Itachitards overrate him. Regardless of how you feel, the Totsuka blade is an auto victory if you’re hit with it, but obviously hitting Madara with it wouldn’t be that simple. I’m not gonna say Itachi wins obviously, but stop downplaying his abilities at the very least

    • @vectorshot3072
      @vectorshot3072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kenyattafrazier chill it just a anime, they not real people

  • @anwylakatsuki9110
    @anwylakatsuki9110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    anything happens in naruto
    power scaling: Ight imma head out

    • @trikie981
      @trikie981 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you meant go up 👆

    • @thund3r682
      @thund3r682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Boruto: What’s power scaling?

    • @abdrhmn2045
      @abdrhmn2045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That pfp kinda fire tho no cap😳

  • @allmusicsvibes1654
    @allmusicsvibes1654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Only shinobi who can beat Madara is Naruto,Sasuke and THE LEGEND RAMEN GUY

    • @allmusicsvibes1654
      @allmusicsvibes1654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@tnb4509 I mean Teuchi(Ramen guy) who make ichiraku ramen,his power is so crazy,he can beat Madara easily

    • @eloarchclips597
      @eloarchclips597 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Levi Ackerman which one IT madara?

  • @ame1765
    @ame1765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Shisui is big daddy like he’s definitely controlling everyone from the very start

    • @Prometheus-x1w
      @Prometheus-x1w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      nope! daddy Madara is the best

    • @chasemula6309
      @chasemula6309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeh no cap. He's trash , but that one move is deadly. N tbh swag was tryna save Madara from it but even for me it's not good enough. But knowing Madara he's too strong ,or has an hax tht can get him out in the Knick of time. Just like when the kages FINALLY manage to counter his rinnegan, n he used his absolute power. Counter can't beat absolute power

    • @NivAhmed
      @NivAhmed 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      batman itachi daddy solos madara

    • @AL1ENER1C
      @AL1ENER1C 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Prometheus-x1w DUhhh

    • @folo7595
      @folo7595 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spittingggg, h'es the GOAT after all .

  • @DanTheDoodler
    @DanTheDoodler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    What if this just devolves into a giant Izanagi fight

    • @marcoslightspeed5517
      @marcoslightspeed5517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Until everyone is blind

    • @visionaryvjae5641
      @visionaryvjae5641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tbh Itachi would have to Erwin this situation and ask everyone ro dedicate their eyes to out Izanagi/izanami him so they can win😅

    • @ColgatetheTogekiss
      @ColgatetheTogekiss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @This Is What Awesome Looks Like they aren’t using adult Sasuke, they’re using 5 Kage summit

  • @josefdoesthings
    @josefdoesthings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    Long answer: madara solos low diff
    Short answer:
    *M A D A R A S T O M P S*

    • @MARCM0DE
      @MARCM0DE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lmao

    • @Prometheus-x1w
      @Prometheus-x1w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Madara will stomp all the nameless Uchiha with Taijutsu and then he'll blitz ems Sasuke, Izuna, Fugaku, Itachi ( sick ), and Kagami with no dif and kill them right there instantly. Before even Shisui reacts he'll kill him. Only Rinnegan Sasuke beat him.
      edit: oh Obito would be the last one standing but Madara knows how his mangekyou works so he'll stomp Obito low dif if you highball Obito then mid dif.

    • @iifinite8167
      @iifinite8167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Prometheus-x1w Depends on which obito tho. I know madara knows how kamui works but I don’t know how he will counter it

    • @hokagedlo6133
      @hokagedlo6133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dude sasuke is without a doubt the strongest uchiha madara cant stomp if hes dead

    • @c.l8375
      @c.l8375 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Spare Slipstreamz facts, adult sasuke solos every uchiha at once

  • @--...--...--...
    @--...--...--... 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A point not discussed- would the totska blade hitting a susano seal the susano's user, aka, Madara?
    Also, sage of the 6 paths son wasn't mentioned, either, which was the progenitor of the clan......

    • @riza4945
      @riza4945 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its indra otsutsuki thats why not indra uchicha

  • @redwings0142
    @redwings0142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    No matter what you think the outcome is, just remember that Kabuto could’ve revived the whole Uchiha clan, but didn’t.

    • @skyrimaster1885
      @skyrimaster1885 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dumbass lol he could've stomped the whole crew

    • @hunterking1466
      @hunterking1466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He would not have been able to control them all, u saw how one of them broke out of it using genjutsu imagine thousands of uchiha just help each other and free themselves.

    • @redwings0142
      @redwings0142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hunterking1466 Itachi broke out under extremely specific circumstances using the single most powerful genjutsu in the entire series that was exclusive to Shisui. No other character Uchiha or not could’ve pulled that off. Madara broke free by performing the summoning signs and severing his link to Kabuto. Unless an Edo zombie has that knowledge (which is very unlikely) then that method is also impossible.

    • @hunterking1466
      @hunterking1466 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@redwings0142 I’m talking about izanagi/izanami, u don’t need any MS to do that. And true I’m sure not all of them knew it, but the jutsu was just a clan forbidden jutsu, which I’m sure a few higher ups could use. Someone like fugaku and other uchiha higer ups must have known about it, cause they were in charge of stopping potentially dangerous uchiha.

    • @redwings0142
      @redwings0142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hunterking1466 izanagi and izanami are weird. The series kinda flip flops on the requirements for the jutsu since it was originally established that it requires both the sharingan and Hashirama Senju’s DNA to recreate the power of the Sage of Six Paths hence why only Danzo and Obito were shown using Izanagi. Then Kishimoto threw that out and made it so anyone with a Mangekyo Sharingan could use them (every Izanagi and Izanami user in both the manga and anime is explicitly shown to have MS), and that’s not even considering the fact that those Jutsu may not even work that way. Plus we saw when Itachi used Izanami on Kabuto his eye didn’t regenerate. If Izanagi/Izanami did work against Edo Tensei which is doubtful at best, then the Uchiha would literally give up their eyesight and sharingan just to free themselves.

  • @greyworld6242
    @greyworld6242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Bleach captains vs the five kage.
    Who fights who?
    And who wins and why?

    • @wizard4863
      @wizard4863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Genryusai solo

    • @MARCM0DE
      @MARCM0DE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Kenpachi would be enough to solo the 5 Kage

    • @itachi-kun7736
      @itachi-kun7736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Genryusai vs Madara might be interesting aside from Aizen

    • @sliderkit.
      @sliderkit. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      There’s 13 captains and only 5 kage so it’s not really a fair fight

    • @wizard4863
      @wizard4863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@itachi-kun7736 Genryusai is untouchable with Bankai. He is surrounded by flames with same temperature as sun. Susanoo can melt - Mei prooved that, so Yamamoto's heat should be enough. I don't know how Madara's limbo would interract with Genryusai's reiatsu, which is spirit pressure.

  • @Augopiel
    @Augopiel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Finally can you upload more than ONCE A MONTH. WE NEED MORE CONTENT

  • @BidwellRunner
    @BidwellRunner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They said you can throw in nameless Uchiha, that it doesn't make a difference. But that is a lot of Izanagi. In fact, Obito could potentially use them as a bank of spare Sharigan and spam Izanagi.

  • @ImortalPvP
    @ImortalPvP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    " its confirmed that he's PROBABLY stronger than him", I feel like....that's an odd statement anddebukes itself

  • @percfiendz1056
    @percfiendz1056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Itachi made eye contact with the crow because he programmed the eye to react to his sharingan. That’s why he had to look at it. Cause he knew Sasuke would use his eyes

  • @Randomsub404
    @Randomsub404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Title of the video: Weaker versions of the uchiha clan vs a madara that everyone knew would win...why did you even make this video?

    • @astxrism8236
      @astxrism8236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fr like at the very beginning they said “no this and that” I’m just like wtf are they gonna do-

    • @alucardican9785
      @alucardican9785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's saying the uchiha while they were alive and were using ya know, their own powers. Because, they said alive Madara, they didn't give madara the six paths or any of those other buffs. Like, Itachi while he was alive had a peak, sasuke before he had the sage of six paths give him a rinnegan. Like it sounds like they're taking stuff from them, but they're also using a weaker madara

    • @harrysmith7342
      @harrysmith7342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alucardican9785Yeah they're only giving Madara an ENTIRE NINE TAILS XD I know he had it while he was alive but it completely unbalances the fight, especially if they're using SICK itcachi rather than prime

    • @alucardican9785
      @alucardican9785 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@harrysmith7342 what prime itachi are you referring to? Like, Prime itachi was around when he fought kakashi. There's no real example of a prime itachi so you can't really use it

    • @alucardican9785
      @alucardican9785 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@harrysmith7342 like, that's like pitting itachi against someone but he can't use tsukuyomi. Yea he had it when he was alive, but that's soooo strong....

  • @titantrainer592
    @titantrainer592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    6:35 Shisui was also poisoned by an aburame clan insect and was completely paralyzed and the only thing that allowed him to move was the adrenaline spike that came from getting an eye ripped out

    • @SonGoku-ee8yw
      @SonGoku-ee8yw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah like what the fuck was that logic "he got blitzed by Danzo, yeah he got a poisoned a little bit but what does that matter", as if that wasn't the WHOLE reason Danzo blitzed him like that. Why the fuck else would Danzo use that poison if he would blitz him any way?

    • @titantrainer592
      @titantrainer592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SonGoku-ee8yw He was only beaten because he was poisoned by an insect that couldn't be detected, he was fully ready and able to beat the shit out of Danzo

    • @SonGoku-ee8yw
      @SonGoku-ee8yw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@titantrainer592 exactly

  • @jarrodkent716
    @jarrodkent716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Imagine being an old Tobirama coming back from a Kage level mission with Danzo and a near prime Hiruzen. You decide to do the heroic thing and stay back to face two people that survived an encounter with a Full nine tails, and absorbed a decent portion of their chakra. One of which, while reanimated, had 2 divisions pinned down by himself. Also, remember that the reason they were leaving 1 behind was because they believed that all would fall if they stayed. Not only does this exhausted Tobirama give his life for his team, but also accomplishes stopping their pursuit. Just to constantly be shit on by the community every chance they get. Also, he lost to blind Madara after he absorbed Sage mode. It's shown in the panels they use in this video. Also, Seth literally made a video explaining how losing to them isn't an anti-feat just to use it as an anti-feat in this video. Even in edo Tobirama was able to destroy a deity gate made by Sage Hashirama, but also damage the God Tree that survived 4 Juubito tailed beast bombs exploding point blank inside of a contained barrier unscathed. I will say this again, all the way in 2021, Tobirama's death is the poorest way to scale his strength to date.
    And as a final note, I am not saying he scales to Madara and Hashirama. Just that he's way above where people put him based on the circumstances of his death. It's always has been trash, and it still is.

    • @otislloyd-zollinger2579
      @otislloyd-zollinger2579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah

    • @mario98730
      @mario98730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      100% facts. Madara and Hashirama are definitely still quite a head above him, but Tobi hasn't gotten as much respect as he deserves.

    • @bofi1280
      @bofi1280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Exactly. I think most of his hate comes from Uchiha fanboys, because he "hates" them. I don't think he hates them, since he was willing to work with them for the benefit of the Hidden Leaf. And even if he did, could you blame him? They did murder his two younger brothers.

    • @jarrodkent716
      @jarrodkent716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@bofi1280 He didn't. The flack the Uchiha caught from the village was Madara's fault, and Tobirama's decision was an attempt to help ease those tensions by giving them a position of power and respect in the form of the police. Danzo was responsible for their genocide, and because he looked up to Tobirama, their philosophies sometimes get confused. But Tobirama never looked down on the Uchiha the way Danzo did. In fact, I'd argue that he understood them better than anybody outside their clan.

    • @bofi1280
      @bofi1280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jarrodkent716 That's what I'm sayin.

  • @dhn8288
    @dhn8288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    5 seconds into the video and hearing swagkage’s voice I’m gonna assume that Madara is gonna win

  • @Mjdemon
    @Mjdemon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Title: Madara vs. all Uchiha
    Half The video: Soo.. *SHISUI*

    • @SatorisYT
      @SatorisYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Because he is the only one with a possible way to beat Madara...

    • @Mjdemon
      @Mjdemon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SatorisYT Yep which is why he’s my fav character in Naruto

    • @kenyattafrazier
      @kenyattafrazier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Mjdemon his statement isn’t even true. I think Seth and Swag have forgotten how Tsukuyomi works. If Itachi catches anyone with it then the battle is over. I just don’t think Madara would get caught lacking like that though. I’m not just being an Itachitard btw. It’s just stated that Tsukuyomi literally cannot be countered because of how fast it works, not even perfect jinchuriki can counter it. So once you’re caught in it, there’s nothing you can do, but Madara wouldn’t ever get to that point more than likely. But my point is that it would be POSSIBLE for Itachi to win as well if you say Shisui could win with Kotoamatsukami, but it is very unlikely that Madara would lose to either of them.

    • @kenyattafrazier
      @kenyattafrazier 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @This Is What Awesome Looks Like do you think you’re gonna trigger me or something? You’re just annoying

    • @kenyattafrazier
      @kenyattafrazier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @josh josh well actually Adult Sasuke has plenty of Chakra. It just takes a massive amount of chakra to shift dimensions.

  • @rogersmith6150
    @rogersmith6150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The crow eye contact thing was because the genjutsu wouldn’t have activated had it not been itachis mangekykou, which he was saving for sasukes since half of it is itachis.

  • @colesneed7400
    @colesneed7400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    “if we want it to be one, that could like logically happen, i think 5 kage summit sasuke would be the best”
    him getting his ms from itachis death:
    👁👄👁

    • @ziggibear1920
      @ziggibear1920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well if u really want it to be logical you would have to assume he got it from something else just like itachi would have to get ms from a different event since shisui is alive in this scenario.

    • @2SSKenny
      @2SSKenny 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      To be fair in the infinite tsukuyomi dream, itachi faked his death and sasuke got ms so some like that can happen

    • @ninizeldav7174
      @ninizeldav7174 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Itachi was brought back to life with his eyes and Sasuke had those very eyes implanted. So yeah.

  • @keonnisjohnson118
    @keonnisjohnson118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    He most def wasn’t stronger than his father lmao that’s undermining his dads power level

    • @toosikk1826
      @toosikk1826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      See I always thought it was crazy that his mom or dad didn't fight back but accepted his decision I think if they fought back it would of been different.

    • @kaveman2012
      @kaveman2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Why couldn’t he be stronger than his dad? Allot of characters are stronger than their dads

    • @toosikk1826
      @toosikk1826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kaveman2012
      I mean he can be thats ok but I was just saying I was wondering why the Dad didn't fight back to save the clan he just took it

    • @MultiDannyboy1995
      @MultiDannyboy1995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@toosikk1826 Why would he want to fight his son he adored? He literally says it himself

    • @nillabeany
      @nillabeany 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Itachi most definitely wasn't stronger than his dad. Maybe everyone else in the village thought so, but Fugaku kept his mangekyou hidden because he didn't want the clan accused of controlling the ninetails. I highly doubt that Itachi was stronger than his much more experienced war veteran father with a mangekyou that was considered a hokage candidate alongside Minato.
      I'm surprised no one ever fuckin brings this up and always makes the dead assumption that Itachi was somehow stronger than Fugaku at the time.

  • @baby2breezy_641
    @baby2breezy_641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    shisui was HEAVILY drugged basically paralysed stop playing with him !!!!

    • @PetarStr
      @PetarStr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Lol they said he was slower than Itachi

    • @crazybl1tz88
      @crazybl1tz88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@PetarStr these dudes are tripping at times istg

    • @Randomclipsforyou2024
      @Randomclipsforyou2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@PetarStr shisui was stronger than itachi tho

    • @AlanJia8
      @AlanJia8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@PetarStr no proof he isn't when Itachi got a lot stronger

    • @therealest7179
      @therealest7179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AlanJia8 May or may not be stronger but definitely faster, he was well known for the body flicker as a teenager.

  • @extoxic_gameplay9635
    @extoxic_gameplay9635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wait you said shisui is not higher then sanin lvl but he’s most likely stronger the fugaku and you said fugaku may be kage lvl..... explain pls

    • @teletubygang70
      @teletubygang70 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sanin are stronger then kages

    • @scientia.veritas
      @scientia.veritas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@teletubygang70 No.

    • @Nahgi
      @Nahgi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@teletubygang70 no

  • @darklurk1217
    @darklurk1217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    "We are not making the uchiha clan weaker for the sake of madara." Proceeds to take away all the strong versions of the uchiha

    • @blankoisagod2083
      @blankoisagod2083 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      because they obviously stomp....

    • @status7505
      @status7505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yea this video would be a lot more interesting if it was a “prime” itachi and war arc obito. Orange mask and sick itachi aren’t anything interesting when comparing to madara

    • @scarren4621
      @scarren4621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@status7505 they aren't anything interesting because they would get stomped.
      In the video, they also didnt talk about the strongest version of madara which is sage of 6 paths dual rinnegan madara. They only talked about madara when he was alive during hashirama era.

    • @status7505
      @status7505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scarren4621 why tf would they talk abt juubidara?

    • @scarren4621
      @scarren4621 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@status7505 because you said they should talk about prime itachi and war arc obito. So war arc obito is not base obito. He has pain/madara's rinnegan eyes. And 'prime' itachi is edo war arc itachi which is also not normal or base itachi, but reanimated itachi.
      They are just talking about normal versions of the uchihas. Thats why they also only talked about normal base madara when he was alive in hashirama era. Hope that makes it clear

  • @knighthawke5605
    @knighthawke5605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Lol no one can really try to gauge Shisui cuz we don't know much about him or his power.

    • @The1Monty
      @The1Monty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Shisui’s only feat is getting blitzed by Danzo and then killing himself

    • @defoe6370
      @defoe6370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@The1Monty thats only in the anime in the manga or novel it talked about how he was poisoned and couldn't really move. They just did him dirty in the anime.

    • @valurefn5371
      @valurefn5371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      12 year old shisui so if he was alive he would slap

  • @whattyabuyin
    @whattyabuyin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    The Kinkaku force argument was weak, he reanimated Asuma for the "mental battle" he brought with him for the leaf village (i.e. Shikamaru, Ino, Choji, etc)

    • @evanpeaden46
      @evanpeaden46 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      True but madara literally BODIES an entire army of unnamed chunin and jonin so they’re still irrelevant. They’re so irrelevant that even mei scales to several dozen of them because she was able to stop madara’s flame jutsu by herself.

    • @JonWitNoH-k2v
      @JonWitNoH-k2v 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I get you're point but I think they were saying that regardless of the reason tobi DID get dropped off by the kinkaku force who is objectively weaker than the full nine tails. Thus there's no way that izuna who's relative to tobi would amount to more than a drop in the bucket against madara AND full nine tails

    • @whattyabuyin
      @whattyabuyin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evanpeaden46 I was just saying that particular point isn't really valid. I never mentioned the rest.

    • @whattyabuyin
      @whattyabuyin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JonWitNoH-k2v I was just tryna say that this particular point wasn't really valid.

    • @millennial_weeb2382
      @millennial_weeb2382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This was the only thing in the entire video that erk’d me mostly, because Seth himself stated that Tobirama prob wasn’t full power.
      Also that the 4th Raikage said the Kingaku force(brothers whatever) was unstoppable & he thought he’d personally have to go to the battlefield just so that they would stand a chance.
      The way he disses Tobirama & the Kinkaku force dosen’t really stand up to even his old scrutiny.
      It just goes to show just how subjective alot of these debates are. They just say whatever they want in-order to win.
      I’m not saying their conclusion is incorrect or their scales are shit. I’m just saying I agree with OP that the Kinkaku(dismiss) argument should have never been made. It’s not strong and literally is Seth contradicting himself.
      Or are we gonna call this video a retcon and then they really just say whatever.

  • @jonathangoldstein3227
    @jonathangoldstein3227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I could be wrong, but I understood Madara being able to fight without eyesight as being due to him absorbing Hashirama's sage mode while being amped by his cells. HE LITERALLY HAS HASHIRAMA'S FACE ON HIS BODY lol. More than that, it is said in the series that Kabuto amped Madara in more ways than one so automatically saying edo Madara is weaker than alive Madara seems questionable to me. Also why would we automatically give Madara the Ninetails just b/c he had it when he fought Hashirama?? I never understood this argument? It's like saying why don't we always give Sasuke the Bijuu amped perfect Susano just because he fought using it once whenever we decide to scale him? It seems like a weak argument to me. I agree that Madara probably wins, but a lot of the arguments posited seem pretty weak to me.

    • @Qinton
      @Qinton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think you misunderstand that the nine tails in not just a random power buff but in fact madara summon. Like how naruto summons Gamakichi, Madara summons the nine tails.Also once madara is revived using the rinne rebirth, hashirama mentions that he is regaining his former power, which is a heavy implication that edo madara was weaker than alive madara.

    • @jonathangoldstein3227
      @jonathangoldstein3227 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@QintonThe nine tails was once under a forced contract summon with Madara, but by the time Madara was at his supposed strongest, alive Madara with the rinnegan, he no longer had Kurama as a summon.

    • @Qinton
      @Qinton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jonathangoldstein3227 Actually, The nine tails was still his summon as seen when edo Madara tries to summon Kurama and causes a lot of pain to Naruto as it is sealed inside of him

    • @jonathangoldstein3227
      @jonathangoldstein3227 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Qinton Interesting, I guess the contract seal is still in effect. However, even if the Kyubi is technically under a contract seal with Madara, Madara was unable to summon the ninetails out of Naruto. If Madara is unable to summon the ninetails because it is sealed inside someone else why would we give him the buff?

  • @marquismason8224
    @marquismason8224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    It’s hard to get through these vids cus y’all always start with “madara stomps irregardless here is 24 minutes why” lmao

    • @TCSyndicate
      @TCSyndicate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      cause it's true.

    • @thund3r682
      @thund3r682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s fax tho

    • @CraigyWeggy
      @CraigyWeggy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Irregardless" isn't a word. You mean "regardless".

  • @HaoPieldeoso
    @HaoPieldeoso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You guys are some of the only guys in TH-cam who keep me engaged for 25 minutes straight like it was 30 seconds. I really have to do my homework guys, stop it.

  • @Yujii2
    @Yujii2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I need to see swag and Seth start talking about some jujutsu kaisen debates 😂 cuz I’m tired of people telling me gojo beats goku

    • @Wicked061
      @Wicked061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      "you can't fix stupid"

    • @slinux8420
      @slinux8420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Gojo has an interesting hax but you really need to argue that Gojo can stop Goku's attacks and other abilities from hitting him. Can he stop god bind?, hakai?, and whatever other shit Goku has. You also have to think about if Gojo can even harm Goku.

    • @liltwistedgamer
      @liltwistedgamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Seriously people think that?

    • @Prometheus-x1w
      @Prometheus-x1w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Wicked061 facts lmao

    • @candlestick6294
      @candlestick6294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@slinux8420 I think the problem is yes he can stop all of goku attacks look at his ability but like you said he can’t touch goku

  • @memeboi2096
    @memeboi2096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    People act like the yatameir is like: oh look a extinction level asteroid let me go ahead and *b l o c k I t*

    • @NewChannelSwitch
      @NewChannelSwitch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was literally stated in the data book to be unbreakable...so even if the sun exploded in one direction the yata mirror would still be fine.

    • @memeboi2096
      @memeboi2096 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NewChannelSwitch breh depending on the version he can break it because the yatamiror has all 5 nature styles on wait what does madara have? Oh yeah the truth seeking orbs which oh ya know has ALL 5 NATURES and I think we can both aggree jubito is stronger than itachi and 6 paths madara is way stronger than him soo yeah that isn't an argument

    • @NewChannelSwitch
      @NewChannelSwitch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@memeboi2096 It doesn't matter lol. It still was stated to be able to reflect ALL attacks.
      So I'm not even sure what argument you're trying to make here.

  • @AM-oi1np
    @AM-oi1np 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Why’d the always give Madara the nine tails is it in his pocket like wtf

    • @keis7068
      @keis7068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s his summon

    • @Alex-ff6yt
      @Alex-ff6yt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@keis7068 for like one fight💀.And honestly it could even work against him with shisui using kotoamatsukami on it or madara to disrupt it(madara could negate it however he wouldn’t even know it’s being used).Not saying they win but yea

    • @keis7068
      @keis7068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Alex-ff6yt he had the nine tails before the fight up until he died what do you mean one fight that’s more like 60 years

    • @Alex-ff6yt
      @Alex-ff6yt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@keis7068 Lmao when in the hell was it stated that madara immediately took control of the nine tails when he left the leaf.He was losing grasp on it in the middle of the fight and you expecting me the genius that madara is will wait all the wait for the 9tails to start gaining its control to finally attack the village?Dumbass logic

    • @kidcuidi1
      @kidcuidi1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Alex-ff6yt people like to use head Canon bruh .