Yeah - there is no good place for the TV in this RV and we really don't like the TV over the dinette either. I guess they had to out it somewhere... Thanks for your comment! Mike
I like the Thor Vegas for the additional sleeping options, the front swivel seats that have a table between and the BR. I like the Coachman Euro for the dishwasher and the bathroom, with the glass shower door.
Life is faced with difficult decisions and trade-offs. I love the idea of a dishwasher. However, I really love having room for storage even more. I can't justify losing storage space for a dishwasher, especially with the possibility that it might not do as good a job as I do.
Hi Mike, I actually like doing laundry at the park laundromat. Not only do I get more room for storage but It gives me an opportunity to meet other full timers. 😊
Single bowl sink with sprayer and a goose neck faucet is so functional. I wish all makers would include a convection microwave. You can cook anything in them-especially when the weather is not cooperative outside.
Great observations Kim! We love our convection microwave! In fact I have some chocolate chip cookie mix to bake in ours one day this week! Thanks for watching and commenting! Mike
On the Holiday model I would’ve preferred a single bowl sink and more countertop space for meal preparation. The outdoor storage and theater setup was nice The Thor Vega The cabinet are sweet!! The sofa is a little small. I wish the back could recline. I missed if the sofa could transition into a bed. The kitchen had a decent amount of cutting surface. The Coachman has an interesting design. The entertainment area seemed a little tight , but I like that the sofa jackknifes out. The upper cabinets above the sofa reminds me of a narrower version of the carryon cabinet in air planes. The kitchen works for me. The garbage bin, and cleaning caddy stole my heart ♥️ super thoughtful and necessary. A dishwasher (omg). Absolutely a dishwasher! At these price points, give me as many useable amenities as possible. I’m getting older and hand washing is becoming less appealing to me. The bedroom space colors are soothing and mimics a hotel suite. More walking area would be appreciated.
Thanks for sharing! All great points as usual! More countertop space is really important. Not enough is very inconvenient. The sofa in the Vegas does not jack knife into a bed. Thor considers this theater seating but it's really just a recliner. The Coachmen did have a unique design and we agree that the more amenities the better! Bring'em on! Thanks for watching and commenting! MIke
We know a few people who made the switch to a single bowl and love it! We have a double bowl in our Class A and it works for us buut I think Susan would prefer the single too.
Thanks so much! I don't work for any dealership or manufacturer. I've just been doing this for 5 years though! Thanks for the kind words and hope you had a Happy 4th! Mike
We haven't seen that floorplan yet but maybe we will see it this week at the Elkhart RV Manufacturers and Dealers Show! Thanks for watching and commenting! Mike
Wow, the Rambler is quite cozy and stylish! I tend to prefer a single sink to have more countertop space but I think this is my pick of the 3 because of the overall layout and look.
For rigs with slide outs, I’m always interested in hearing if access is prevented when the slide is in (bathroom, fridge, etc.) loved the coachman euro but sure appears to block the bathroom access when the slide in bed area is pulled in. Means you have to stop, let out the slide to use the washroom while travelling. A no go for us.
Unfortunately we can't move the slides in at RV Shows or on most dealership lots. Sometimes I remember to measure for that but sometimes I forget. Trying to get better at that so thanks for the suggestion. Mike
All very interesting. The Coleman Euro has an induction range and a dishwasher, which begs the question of the electrical power required to run this thing. It would be worth discussing that in your video. Sounds to me like this is exclusively a shore power rig.
Most RVs are NOT designed for boondockers. The vast majority of RV owners use their RV for a one week vacation and a few weekends a year. So that is what most RVs are designed for - pedestal camping. If you were really boondocking you would probably never use your dishwasher.
If I had the funds, I would choose the Euro with a washer. The Thor is a great second option, yet a propane cook hub and a shower curtain really falls short. Thor needs a induction cooktop and retractable shower door...
I love the idea of a washer/dryer over a dishwasher but most of these coaches are designed for weekend warriors not full timers. Are you full time so you would need a washer/dryer or do you just like the convenience of a W/D while camping for a week or weekend? Thanks for watching! Mike
Hello. I love how straightforward, informative, and entertaining your approach is to these videos. My wife and I had an A-liner popup some years back and we're thinking about getting something slightly larger so we're in the research phase right now. One question I have for the two of you has to do with the reliability and quality of RVs in general. Do you ever mention this in your videos? It would be helpful to know, given a choice of a couple similar trailers, if one had better construction and perhaps a better record with reliability. We know that when your "house" is moving and being jostled about, that things will break more readily than in a permanent structure but if you are aware of RV companies that seem to do a better job of putting their units together, that would be a great thing to pass on to prospective buyers. Thank you for your content.
Hi Claudio, This is a great point that you bring up but we don't cover the quality aspect of these trailers. Two of the same exact RV can be very different quality. And it all depends how you camp in your RV and how often you use it. And we would need to live in each unit for a year to see if it is really a quality unit or not. So we just stick to livability and then we leave it up to each viewer to research a unit they may be interested in. We always recommend getting an inspection and a good warranty wether you buy new or used. All that being said if Susan and I were going to buy a travel trailer we would buy one of the fiberglass brands or we would go with an AirStream. These hold up the best, have the fewest leaks, and they have the best resale value. So although the price is higher when you purchase, the overall cost is lower because you may spend less on repairs and you can recoup some of your money when you sell it. We currently own a Class A Thor and a Class C Gulf Stream and they have both had their problems that I have had to fix. But that is going to happen in every RV. Avoid Schwintek slides unless you want to get really good at making slide repairs or you have an excellent warranty without mileage limits and allows for mobile RV techs to make repairs. We have a warranty like this and it is awesome. In less than 2 years we have saved more than we paid for the warranty.. Hope all this helps! Mike
I love the Coachmen. I'd love it even better is the slide didn't have to come out to access the bed. The Thor is okay, but I wonder if putting a fully stocked refrigerator on a slide is a good thing.
We love the Coachmen Euro it doesn't sit high as a Reg class A. We can do without the dishwasher storage would be better the 2 sinks are good. Does this Class A come with 2 twin beds?
Great question and the answer is YES - but...not yet. They have a new floor plan coming out soon that offers twin beds. Here is a link so you can check out the floor plan. www.coachmenrv.com/print/floorplans/euro Thanks for watching and commenting! Mike
I thought it was odd not to have an overhead bunk. That's a better use of space for the occasional visitors like kids or grandkids. Great point and thanks for watching! Mike
She read this and she's on her way! RUN!!!! But seriously Susan does the dishes and I do the cooking - haha! We split most of our responsibilities and we have become quite efficient I must say. Thanks for watching! Mike
The Admiral looks really nice, but why did they put seats for 8 people in the front (4 dinette, 2 cinema seats, 2 driver/passenger)? The Coachmen is even shinier and more elegant, but has the same weird seating. In contrast, the layout from the Thor really shines more practical, but a short bed in the master bedroom? So, sadly no motorhome for me this time... 😉
I went onto RVTrader.com and applied the filters in the search for Class A, Nationwide, Under 30 feet, no slides and here are all the units that meet the criteria. www.rvtrader.com/Class-A/rvs-for-sale?type=Class%20A%7C198067&length=%2A%3A30&slideouts=%2A%3A0 It's a bunch of new and used. Hope this helps! Mike
Why must you always measure only the skylight height? We're not all giants and would like to know the height without the hole and also include width and depth since you like measuring so much!
You have to pay better attention. I also measure the regular ceiling height so you know that measurement throughout the entire rig. And there is a very specific reason I measure into the skylight. If you have watched enough of our videos you would know why... Thanks for watching! Mike
It's hard for me to understand how a larger RV 27,28 and 29 ft. can have such a small shower. 24X36 isn't big enough 36X36 would be much better all concerned.
Hi Ronald, Do you mean into the shower or into the RV? If you are asking about the showers then the reason the raise the shower pans is so that the shower trap fits under the shower pan. The shower trap is a piece of pvc pipe in the shape of a sideways S and it traps water in it so that sewer smells don't enter into the RV. I hope this makes sense. Thanks for watching! Mike
The thor has me lost. If a company thinks an open shower is ok when it's split, I'm thinking I'm not buying from that company. That's just a common sense thing. It makes me wonder how the rest of it was built!
Hmmm...well I think the idea is to close the door to create privacy from the living area and close the curtain from the bedroom to create privacy there...maybe I didn't explain that well enough in the video. But if a design flaw completely rules out a manufacturer then you are in trouble because Thor makes about half of the RVs on the market and Forest River makes the other half. And none of them are perfect. They just keep trying to make the most of the same small space. Some designs are cool and others not so much. Thanks for watching and for your comment! Mike
You are very welcome! We've been touring RVs since 2019 and loving every minute of it! It seemed like a lower cost luxury coach but it falls a little short. I would get rid of the dinette and install a TV location over top of a fireplace. We love to use TV trays while we eat dinner in our theater seats and watch TV. Thanks for commenting! Mike
No kidding comfortable seating for 6 Large People, only sleeps 2 adults + 1 small child, No engineering or thought process behind this?? Let’s be honest here this is a coachman, pursuit backslash, other pursuit clone with a fake euro makeover. Removing the overhead bunk was a mistake along with a dishwasher when like others stated, you could’ve had washer and dryer easily in that space stackable. Where is the diesel engine to make it euro ?? How is this compact and using every inch of the space for your needs ?? I like the mirrors I like the slam latches, but for this price, the pursuit or the pursuit clone is looking much better with an overhead bunk. Even though the overhead bunk isn’t rated for 750 pounds like the rest of the industry is.. Motorhome industry needs to get with the inflation and what the consumers need and want is miles per gallon like 18 mpg minimum …The only way to do that with the weight of these heavy motorhomes is a diesel.
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Thor finally, finally fixed that weird a** bathroom setup in to something really nice. 👍
Glad you like it!
Thanks for watching!
Mike
I love the Euro, but I’d take out the couch and move the tv to where it was. Open up the floor space 😊. Great review as always!
Yeah - there is no good place for the TV in this RV and we really don't like the TV over the dinette either.
I guess they had to out it somewhere...
Thanks for your comment!
Mike
I like the Thor Vegas for the additional sleeping options, the front swivel seats that have a table between and the BR. I like the Coachman Euro for the dishwasher and the bathroom, with the glass shower door.
Hi Patty, great points! Now we just need a coach that has it all!
Thanks for watching!
Mike
Life is faced with difficult decisions and trade-offs. I love the idea of a dishwasher. However, I really love having room for storage even more. I can't justify losing storage space for a dishwasher, especially with the possibility that it might not do as good a job as I do.
Since you are full time would you think a washer/dryer would be a better use of space than the dishwasher?
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Mike
Hi Mike, I actually like doing laundry at the park laundromat. Not only do I get more room for storage but It gives me an opportunity to meet other full timers. 😊
Single bowl sink with sprayer and a goose neck faucet is so functional. I wish all makers would include a convection microwave. You can cook anything in them-especially when the weather is not cooperative outside.
Great observations Kim!
We love our convection microwave! In fact I have some chocolate chip cookie mix to bake in ours one day this week!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Mike
On the Holiday model I would’ve preferred a single bowl sink and more countertop space for meal preparation. The outdoor storage and theater setup was nice
The Thor Vega
The cabinet are sweet!! The sofa is a little small. I wish the back could recline. I missed if the sofa could transition into a bed. The kitchen had a decent amount of cutting surface.
The Coachman has an interesting design. The entertainment area seemed a little tight , but I like that the sofa jackknifes out. The upper cabinets above the sofa reminds me of a narrower version of the carryon cabinet in air planes. The kitchen works for me. The garbage bin, and cleaning caddy stole my heart ♥️ super thoughtful and necessary. A dishwasher (omg). Absolutely a dishwasher! At these price points, give me as many useable amenities as possible. I’m getting older and hand washing is becoming less appealing to me. The bedroom space colors are soothing and mimics a hotel suite. More walking area would be appreciated.
Thanks for sharing! All great points as usual!
More countertop space is really important. Not enough is very inconvenient.
The sofa in the Vegas does not jack knife into a bed. Thor considers this theater seating but it's really just a recliner.
The Coachmen did have a unique design and we agree that the more amenities the better! Bring'em on!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
MIke
Single bowl!!! My RV has one and I love it!!!
I wish my house has one!
We know a few people who made the switch to a single bowl and love it! We have a double bowl in our Class A and it works for us buut I think Susan would prefer the single too.
I love watching your videos when you’re showing RV’s because you explained it very well in details. You seems like you are working in there. 😊
Thanks so much! I don't work for any dealership or manufacturer. I've just been doing this for 5 years though!
Thanks for the kind words and hope you had a Happy 4th!
Mike
The Euro! Hands down! But I like the new LE floorplan....no slide.
We haven't seen that floorplan yet but maybe we will see it this week at the Elkhart RV Manufacturers and Dealers Show!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Mike
Very nice reviews, thank you.
Thanks very much! We do our best and we are glad you enjoyed them!
Mike and Susan
Wow, the Rambler is quite cozy and stylish! I tend to prefer a single sink to have more countertop space but I think this is my pick of the 3 because of the overall layout and look.
Great choice!!!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Mike
I love this.
Washer dryer stackable would be great!
Like the dishwasher but need a washer dryer.
I am 73 and it will be me and my 2 dogs.
For the Couchman the 25TB would be the way to go for me. No slide to use the bed.
Yeah - that is a good feature! Our bed slide broke once and we can't sleep in our bed if the slide isn't out...long night...
For rigs with slide outs, I’m always interested in hearing if access is prevented when the slide is in (bathroom, fridge, etc.) loved the coachman euro but sure appears to block the bathroom access when the slide in bed area is pulled in. Means you have to stop, let out the slide to use the washroom while travelling. A no go for us.
Unfortunately we can't move the slides in at RV Shows or on most dealership lots. Sometimes I remember to measure for that but sometimes I forget. Trying to get better at that so thanks for the suggestion.
Mike
All very interesting. The Coleman Euro has an induction range and a dishwasher, which begs the question of the electrical power required to run this thing. It would be worth discussing that in your video. Sounds to me like this is exclusively a shore power rig.
In my experience, people who want a dishwasher aren't usually boondockers.
Most RVs are NOT designed for boondockers. The vast majority of RV owners use their RV for a one week vacation and a few weekends a year. So that is what most RVs are designed for - pedestal camping. If you were really boondocking you would probably never use your dishwasher.
What if instead of a dishwasher Euro offered a washer?
@@ozwomanid57 That would be prefect!
If I had the funds, I would choose the Euro with a washer. The Thor is a great second option, yet a propane cook hub and a shower curtain really falls short. Thor needs a induction cooktop and retractable shower door...
I love the idea of a washer/dryer over a dishwasher but most of these coaches are designed for weekend warriors not full timers. Are you full time so you would need a washer/dryer or do you just like the convenience of a W/D while camping for a week or weekend?
Thanks for watching!
Mike
This is nice and I like that you use the tape measure 👍
Glad you like it! The tape measure really helps and people seem to really like it!
Hello. I love how straightforward, informative, and entertaining your approach is to these videos. My wife and I had an A-liner popup some years back and we're thinking about getting something slightly larger so we're in the research phase right now. One question I have for the two of you has to do with the reliability and quality of RVs in general. Do you ever mention this in your videos? It would be helpful to know, given a choice of a couple similar trailers, if one had better construction and perhaps a better record with reliability. We know that when your "house" is moving and being jostled about, that things will break more readily than in a permanent structure but if you are aware of RV companies that seem to do a better job of putting their units together, that would be a great thing to pass on to prospective buyers. Thank you for your content.
Hi Claudio,
This is a great point that you bring up but we don't cover the quality aspect of these trailers. Two of the same exact RV can be very different quality. And it all depends how you camp in your RV and how often you use it. And we would need to live in each unit for a year to see if it is really a quality unit or not. So we just stick to livability and then we leave it up to each viewer to research a unit they may be interested in. We always recommend getting an inspection and a good warranty wether you buy new or used.
All that being said if Susan and I were going to buy a travel trailer we would buy one of the fiberglass brands or we would go with an AirStream. These hold up the best, have the fewest leaks, and they have the best resale value. So although the price is higher when you purchase, the overall cost is lower because you may spend less on repairs and you can recoup some of your money when you sell it.
We currently own a Class A Thor and a Class C Gulf Stream and they have both had their problems that I have had to fix. But that is going to happen in every RV. Avoid Schwintek slides unless you want to get really good at making slide repairs or you have an excellent warranty without mileage limits and allows for mobile RV techs to make repairs. We have a warranty like this and it is awesome. In less than 2 years we have saved more than we paid for the warranty..
Hope all this helps!
Mike
@@RVBlogger This helps tremendously Mike! Thanks so much.
I love the Coachmen. I'd love it even better is the slide didn't have to come out to access the bed. The Thor is okay, but I wonder if putting a fully stocked refrigerator on a slide is a good thing.
Many fridges are on slides but it is a lot of weight!
My Vote…..ABSOLUTELY have to have the dishwasher!!!!
LOL! Folks are really loving the dishwasher!
Thanks for chiming in!
Mike
Dishwasher - no, Washer/Dryer Combo Unit - YES!
I have never heard of a combo unit that works well - have you?
Thanks for your comment!
Mike
Would love to see some 5th wheels.
We have plenty of videos about 5th wheels. Head over to our channel and check them out!
I want the dishwasher!❤
Haha! The dishwasher is a hit!
We love the Coachmen Euro it doesn't sit high as a Reg class A. We can do without the dishwasher storage would be better the 2 sinks are good. Does this Class A come with 2 twin beds?
Great question and the answer is YES - but...not yet. They have a new floor plan coming out soon that offers twin beds. Here is a link so you can check out the floor plan. www.coachmenrv.com/print/floorplans/euro
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Mike
I’d be very interested in the Coachmen if there was an overhead bunk. Too bad its really just a couples campers.
I thought it was odd not to have an overhead bunk. That's a better use of space for the occasional visitors like kids or grandkids.
Great point and thanks for watching!
Mike
Yes dishwasher!🎉. With a instant water heater!
Bingo! Thats what they all need!
Mike, you wouldn't need a dishwasher. You have Susan. Don't let her slap me.
She read this and she's on her way! RUN!!!!
But seriously Susan does the dishes and I do the cooking - haha! We split most of our responsibilities and we have become quite efficient I must say.
Thanks for watching!
Mike
The Admiral looks really nice, but why did they put seats for 8 people in the front (4 dinette, 2 cinema seats, 2 driver/passenger)? The Coachmen is even shinier and more elegant, but has the same weird seating. In contrast, the layout from the Thor really shines more practical, but a short bed in the master bedroom? So, sadly no motorhome for me this time... 😉
Hey - they can't all be winners. The seating seems weird to me too. Could have been designed much better imho.
Thanks for watching!
MIke
Are there any of these that don't have slides 🤔
I went onto RVTrader.com and applied the filters in the search for Class A, Nationwide, Under 30 feet, no slides and here are all the units that meet the criteria. www.rvtrader.com/Class-A/rvs-for-sale?type=Class%20A%7C198067&length=%2A%3A30&slideouts=%2A%3A0
It's a bunch of new and used.
Hope this helps!
Mike
BUy an Airstream!
Why must you always measure only the skylight height? We're not all giants and would like to know the height without the hole and also include width and depth since you like measuring so much!
You have to pay better attention. I also measure the regular ceiling height so you know that measurement throughout the entire rig. And there is a very specific reason I measure into the skylight. If you have watched enough of our videos you would know why...
Thanks for watching!
Mike
A single bowl to wash dishes. Thanks
Your vote is noted!
Thanks for commenting!
Mike
Dishwashers take up too much storage space. I’d rather have space for storage.
We agree! Or a washer/dryer maybe...
Thanks for watching and for your comment!
Mike
One thing to add is how many seat belts
Thanks for the suggestion Joyce. We are considering showing seat belts and also car seat tethers. What do you think?
Mike
@@RVBlogger that would be great not only for grandparents but young families as well.
@@joycejohnson1396 Thanks for your feedback!
I really do not like receptacles on the side of the lower cabinets. That is an accident waiting to happen.
Hi Janice - that's a good point!
Thanks for watching!
Mike
It's hard for me to understand how a larger RV 27,28 and 29 ft. can have such a small shower. 24X36 isn't big enough 36X36 would be much better all concerned.
I agree! Some of these showers are barely big enough for me to get into!
Great suggestion!
Mike
Why do they most manufacturers have such high step-ups I would think 3 inch step-ups would be nice and better ?
Hi Ronald, Do you mean into the shower or into the RV? If you are asking about the showers then the reason the raise the shower pans is so that the shower trap fits under the shower pan. The shower trap is a piece of pvc pipe in the shape of a sideways S and it traps water in it so that sewer smells don't enter into the RV.
I hope this makes sense.
Thanks for watching!
Mike
The thor has me lost. If a company thinks an open shower is ok when it's split, I'm thinking I'm not buying from that company. That's just a common sense thing. It makes me wonder how the rest of it was built!
Hmmm...well I think the idea is to close the door to create privacy from the living area and close the curtain from the bedroom to create privacy there...maybe I didn't explain that well enough in the video. But if a design flaw completely rules out a manufacturer then you are in trouble because Thor makes about half of the RVs on the market and Forest River makes the other half. And none of them are perfect. They just keep trying to make the most of the same small space. Some designs are cool and others not so much. Thanks for watching and for your comment!
Mike
There is no counter space in the kitchen
Which one are you talking about? Countertops are prime real estate in any RV!
Thanks for watching!
Mike
@@RVBlogger the first one
I agree. For the first RV, I see no need to take up all the counter space with a huge double sink. Shrink the sink and have some counter space.
@@leahwheeldon3389 Absolutely!
Thanks for the tours! That Coachmen Euro looks too 'plastic-ey' and lifeless for us. Great features but too bland, at least the model shown.
You are very welcome! We've been touring RVs since 2019 and loving every minute of it!
It seemed like a lower cost luxury coach but it falls a little short. I would get rid of the dinette and install a TV location over top of a fireplace. We love to use TV trays while we eat dinner in our theater seats and watch TV.
Thanks for commenting!
Mike
#3💋😻💋 just so expensive WoW but, Beautiful ❤️
Prices are coming way down! Never pay MSRP and negotiate! It's a buyers market!
The Euro has so many seats, but no decent place for others to sleep, makes no sense.
It's a bit of a wonky design. We thought the same thing - It's a great couples camper with extra seats.
Hope you have a great Holiday Weekend!
Mike
No kidding comfortable seating for 6 Large People, only sleeps 2 adults + 1 small child, No engineering or thought process behind this??
Let’s be honest here this is a coachman, pursuit backslash, other pursuit clone with a fake euro makeover.
Removing the overhead bunk was a mistake along with a dishwasher when like others stated, you could’ve had washer and dryer easily in that space stackable.
Where is the diesel engine to make it euro ?? How is this compact and using every inch of the space for your needs ??
I like the mirrors I like the slam latches, but for this price, the pursuit or the pursuit clone is looking much better with an overhead bunk. Even though the overhead bunk isn’t rated for 750 pounds like the rest of the industry is..
Motorhome industry needs to get with the inflation and what the consumers need and want is miles per gallon like 18 mpg minimum …The only way to do that with the weight of these heavy motorhomes is a diesel.
The Euro is useless! No storage down below.
Agree! Not a great RV...