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Dr. Cat's FULL recovery story from Severe CFS, Chronic Lyme, and POTS

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2024
  • New CFS Recovery Programs Guide: healwithliz.com/programs-guide/ Dr. Cathleen King, DPT is a neuroscientist and somatic healer. She found her own liberation from 10+ years of Chronic Lyme, Severe CFS/ME, POTS, CIRS, mold sensitivity and more. Starts at 1:02. See info + TIMESTAMPS below:
    SUMMARY:
    Dr. Cat shares her turning point when she ran out of money trying to fix herself, in a dark room unable to care for her kids. She talks about polyvagal theory and what she observes is the missing brain state for people who struggle with brain rewiring programs. We go deep, and she talks about her original Perfect Storm. We also out about the gut-brain axis, polyvagal theory, and the microbiome.
    I loved this interview and her call to revolutionize the chronic illness industry. I hope something resonates with you!
    Update, based on your requests, I made a transcript of our interview:
    healwithliz.com/how-dr-cat-fo...
    TIMESTAMPS:
    1:17 Why do some people have reactions to mold or can't clear viruses/infections while others can? Dr. Cat talks about the lumberjack study & shares her theory.
    2:46 Dr. Cat's perfect storms
    5:18 She runs through all her main diagnoses, triggers, symptoms, and functionality levels
    5:51 Things she tried over 10 years, and what underlying problem was not addressed
    6:47 The silver lining after she ran out of money (Major realization & turning point)
    8:23 Her discovery lying the grass and her NEW approach
    8:57 Dr. Cat talks about her friend and mentor who helped her see her core issue
    9:28 The tools and methods that began to help Dr. Cat transform her life
    10:26 Dr. Cat takes a different approach to DNRS (the Dynamic Neural Retraining System)
    11:54 Creating a state of primal trust (how do you find that when you've been dysregulated your whole life), the missing brain state
    15:45 Why people doing DNRS can sometimes struggle (and what is important to get clear on) (please excuse the neighbor's dog)
    17:54 Dr. Cat's powerful message to busy parents (from the heart)
    19:33 Does healing happen in stages? Dr. Cat shares her roadmap.
    20:27 You have to be willing to OWN this. (she was there)
    21:00 Her call to Ancestral Chain Breakers.
    22:11 Dr. Cat's personal strategy for rewiring her reaction to mold
    25:35 It's a barometer for THIS.
    26:14 Dr. Cat's realization in her Lyme doctor's office. The powerful words that spoke to her.
    28:50 The biggest lie out there about our microbiome
    29:51 We nerd out about the gut-brain axis
    30:15 The Divided Mind (and difference between accepting and suppressing)
    32:01 Polyvagal theory broken down
    33:43 Riding the wave (love this)
    34:57 Dr. Cat talks about her two main programs Creating Calm & the Primal Trust Mentorship (who each is aimed for)
    38:16 Why it's amazing to be on the other side. What she dreamed about when she was sick all those years (so revolutionary!)
    Swiss study on asymptomatic Lyme borreliosis in high-risk population:
    pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1988513/
    Update: Dr. Cat's latest version of Level 1: Regulate was released October 2022. It's made for both beginners and people with brain retraining experience seeking a comprehensive trauma-informed brain retraining and somatics program.
    Dr. Cat's next live Level 2 mentorship program, starts April 4, 2023 (recordings available, too). Learn more: www.cathleenking.com/membersh...
    Note: Her Level 2: Primal Trust course is for people experienced with neuroplasticity / brain retraining wanting to go deeper, who have completed Level 1: Regulate.
    She has made her offering more accessible and is now $96/month.
    Follow Dr Cat. her on Instagram:
    / drcathleenking
    Dr. Cat's website:
    cathleenking.com
    Follow me on Instagram:
    / healwithlizc
    For more inspiring CFS/ME recovery stories and more:
    healwithliz.com
    *New: CFS Recovery Programs Guide by Heal With Liz & Lindsay Vine*
    healwithliz.com/programs-guide (A detailed, independent review of Primal Trust - new Level 1 and Levels 2 & 3, DNRS, Gupta, 20 other lifestyle & nervous system regulation programs)

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  • @elw4632
    @elw4632 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dear Liz, I thought of you today when I was feeling grateful and started thinking of people who have really helped spread hope and give support to this community, and who have influenced my journey. I want to thank you so much for all the work and time and passion you put in to what you do and into your channel. I chose this video to leave my comment as this interview you did lead me to Primal Trust which has been such a big piece for me on my journey and has helped me grow as a person and take important big baby steps back into life. I am also grateful for Raelan and Dr. Cat so if they happen to see this know you also have a big place in my heart. Thank you Liz, you have such a kind heart and you are also very clear in your communication. You are changing and saving lives and my life would not be the same without you. Wishing you a beautiful time this holiday seasons and sending you lots of love.
    From Elle

    • @HealwithLiz
      @HealwithLiz  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much Elle. Your message truly touched my heart and brought me happy tears. This is so wonderful to hear, and I feel inspired myself from what you shared. I passed along to Raelan and Dr. Cat. I am sending lots of love and good vibes your way. happy holidays

    • @elw4632
      @elw4632 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HealwithLiz thank you ❤️❤️❤️

  • @Cindyscrossstitch
    @Cindyscrossstitch หลายเดือนก่อน

    So glad people are sharing how they over came the speed bumps of life. We are the creators of our life.🌻

  • @DrEricRobins
    @DrEricRobins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a physician who specializes in treating chronic pain and other complex functional issues, I believe that what Dr. Cat is teaching addresses the highest level crux of the problem. What a blessing that she was able to discover this, heal herself and make so many beautiful and powerful distinctions along the way. Liz, I'm so happy that you were also able to be healed and what a great interviewer you are. God bless you both for the work you are doing. Godspeed

  • @vanessaleith
    @vanessaleith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is one of the best interviews about cfs recovery I’ve heard. Thank you 🙏

  • @cindycampfield6951
    @cindycampfield6951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great interview! Thank you!! After a lifetime of good health, I was dx with lyme a couple years ago and my life turned into a living nightmare. My focus has been totally on "fixing" everything that is "wrong" with me-and believe-you-me, doctors gave me lists of what was wrong. So I've spend the last two years chasing fixes and cures and feel traumatized from this entire journey (literally-the process just seemed to pour gas on the fire!!). This interview is touching on what I think I'm coming to realize as the truth.

    • @HealwithLiz
      @HealwithLiz  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Cindy! And thank you for sharing your truth! ❤️

  • @amandafieldhouse3066
    @amandafieldhouse3066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So elegant and beautifully stated, Dr. Cat's programs are rich with material, insight and wisdom. I can't recommend them enough, just brilliant!

  • @simonamorrison7862
    @simonamorrison7862 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The information and community in the Primal trust mentorship was the missing piece for me after a year of dnrs. Dr. Cat put words to so many of the patterns that I was noticing and filled in a few gaps that led to a big leap in recovery. Great interview!

    • @HealwithLiz
      @HealwithLiz  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's so wonderful to hear Simona, I am very happy for you and I appreciate you sharing that! And thank you!! ❤️

  • @RawNinao
    @RawNinao 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I cried the whole way through ♥️

  • @hypnosiswiththeresa
    @hypnosiswiththeresa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love Dr Cat! Been following her work a few months now and plan to take her primal trust program. She's next level. Thank you for sharing!

    • @primaltrustofficial
      @primaltrustofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Theresa! Yay! I’d love to have you involved… are u signed up on my waitlist so I can keep you updated? I’ll be doing some free Q&A in August/September to answer questions for those wondering how primal trust helps them find freedom from illness/ trauma…

  • @aires8441
    @aires8441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had all of this and more. Tried DNRS and worked temporarily and reverted back to chronic illness.

  • @joonasmetsamaki5085
    @joonasmetsamaki5085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So deep and insightful. So much to think about. Thank you Liz & Dr Cat!

  • @jelenegilmore4821
    @jelenegilmore4821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is such an insightful and helpful video. Thank you so much for sharing!!

  • @B3l0v3d05
    @B3l0v3d05 ปีที่แล้ว

    She talks about benzos! Thank you for mentioning this! So many of these programs and program creators don't discuss how these meds are prescribed to those of us struggling and cause our nervous systems further harm

  • @marcelafenner3772
    @marcelafenner3772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you both.

  • @marionlow6737
    @marionlow6737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you. This was fascinating.

  • @loripirollo7177
    @loripirollo7177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Liz, so appreciate you. Doc, you get it. Thank you as well.

  • @07torresa
    @07torresa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I suffered from trauma and drug induced psychosis, schizophrenia, derealization, depersonalization, anxiety, depression, bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder. My brain was super fractured. I had disturbing and fractured thoughts. My sense of self was complete broken. She is absolutely right. The coping mechanism may work but you must get your brain in sync by rebuilding your identity. What you want, and who you are and who you want to be and where you want to go.

    • @morningwithgracie7870
      @morningwithgracie7870 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I suffered from psyche meds pls let me know if you recovered?

    • @07torresa
      @07torresa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@morningwithgracie7870 somewhat recovered. I believe the brain can be rewired but it takes hard work. I recommend socializing, playing, and in general doing activities that require your focus and your body. Otherwise you’re going to be stuck in your head in thought loops. Natural supplements may help like gaba, l-theanine

  • @chrispysings
    @chrispysings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much for this interview! ❤🌈

  • @ceciliamac4283
    @ceciliamac4283 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!! Thank you so very much for this Liz

    • @HealwithLiz
      @HealwithLiz  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Cecilia 😊!! My pleasure. ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

  • @DD-wv3pf
    @DD-wv3pf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 21:58 you said "That's so powerful."
    I'd say "That's so powerfully beautiful!" 😍
    Thanks so much Liz for this effort. It is tremendously supportive!!
    🤍🙏

  • @ElizabethCarlson
    @ElizabethCarlson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    TIMESTAMPS:
    1:17 Why do some people have reactions to mold or can't clear viruses/infections while others can? Dr. Cat talks about the lumberjack study & her theory.
    2:46 Dr. Cat's perfect storms
    5:18 She runs through all her main diagnoses, triggers, symptoms, and functionality levels
    5:51 Things she tried over 10 years, and what underlying problem was not addressed
    6:47 The silver lining after she ran out of money (Major realization & turning point)
    8:23 Her discovery lying the grass
    8:57 Dr. Cat talks about her friend and mentor who helped her see her core issue
    9:28 The tools and methods that began to help Dr. Cat transform her life
    10:26 Dr. Cat takes a different approach to DNRS (the Dynamic Neural Retraining System)
    11:54 Creating a state of primal trust and the missing brain state (insightful section)
    15:06 Why people doing DNRS can sometimes struggle & what they can do
    17:54 Dr. Cat's powerful message to busy parents (from the heart)
    19:33 Does healing happen in stages? Dr. Cat shares her roadmap.
    20:27 You have to be willing to OWN this.
    21:00 Her call to Ancestral Chain Breakers.
    22:11 Dr. Cat's personal strategy for rewiring her reaction to mold
    25:35 It's a barometer for THIS.
    26:14 Dr. Cat's realization in her Lyme doctor's office. The powerful words that spoke to her.
    28:50 The biggest lie out there about our microbiome
    29:51 We nerd out about the gut-brain axis
    30:15 The Divided Mind (and difference between accepting and suppressing)
    32:01 Polyvagal theory broken down
    33:43 Riding the wave (love this)
    38:16 Why it's amazing to be on the other side. What she dreamed about when she was sick all those years.

  • @rebeccatolinmind-bodycoach
    @rebeccatolinmind-bodycoach 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for sharing this powerful interview and your own healing Liz! Dr. Cat's discoveries really resonate with me and there's a lot of crossover with how I healed from CFS/ME. The part about letting go of trying to fix it or get over the symptoms was a pivotal turning point for me too! Do you know how I can find the study Cat mentioned about the lumberjacks who tested positive for Lyme but didn't have symptoms? So often, lab findings are incidental and not causing our symptoms! I'd love to read that study. Thanks to both of you wise women for sharing your healing truths!

    • @primaltrustofficial
      @primaltrustofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I cannot for the life of me find it. A doctor told me about it about 7 years ago when I was really sick. He described many people get bit by ticks, have the bacteria in their testing, and do not feel ill. Much like other who might have mold or food allergy markers that are high but don't "feel" ill. So the feeling of the illness isn't always a correlation to the presentation of illness/infection/etc. As a physical therapist we were taught in PT school a similar concept. Many people who get MRI's show a "herniated disc" but do not have pain. So is it true that a herniated disk always results in pain? Same kind of concept here.

    • @rebeccatolinmind-bodycoach
      @rebeccatolinmind-bodycoach 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@primaltrustofficial Thanks Cat! I'd love to find that study. I was told that high titers of Epstein Barr and other viruses were causing my CFS/ME. But I recovered through mind-body work and have realized those findings were not the cause of my symptoms. (They were either the effect or incidental findings.) I work with clients with chronic pain and fatigue and often cite studies showing that healthy, asymptomatic people have bulging, herniated and degenerative discs, what Dr. John Sarno called "normal abnormalities." I was excited when you spoke about this for Lyme. Like you, I finally got to the point (after 13 years!) where I ignored doctor's scary lab findings and shifted my thoughts, emotions and behaviors instead. So much more empowering and healing!

    • @HealwithLiz
      @HealwithLiz  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@primaltrustofficial I found it. Ha, I'm an expert Internet sleuth. It's on Pub Med. "The prevalence and incidence of clinical and asymptomatic Lyme borreliosis in a population at risk." I was able to find a couple other studies with similar findings.

    • @primaltrustofficial
      @primaltrustofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rebeccatolinmind-bodycoach I’d love the link in this reply so others can read it… sounds like u and I are two peas in a pod… my PT training was based on the Sarno approach too!

    • @rebeccatolinmind-bodycoach
      @rebeccatolinmind-bodycoach 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@primaltrustofficial Fantastic, we are two peas in a pod! My former mind-body coach and mentor is a PT who now does Sarno-based coaching. Sarno's work was a total game changer for me!
      I have a chart with imaging findings in asymptomatic people but TH-cam isn't letting me attach it. But here's one great study showing that pain-free people have degenerative changes as part of a normal, healthy aging process. So many of these scans and labs scare people needlessly. Grr! pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25430861/

  • @07torresa
    @07torresa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We are energetic beings. Matter is 99.9999% empty space!!! Tap into the quantum field of infinite possibilities. No past, no future. The key is to believe it and know it with all your heart. Your neurons synapses are conscious.

  • @dariam4246
    @dariam4246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of dr. Cat’s symptoms was thyroid problem. Did she had autoimmune disease Hashimoto and was on thyroid replacement therapy? If so, was she able to overcame the illness by using mind body approach? Thank you for yours videos!

  • @andrewclarke7798
    @andrewclarke7798 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would really, really love some people to stop selling their successful program, and just give it ALL for FREE.Now wouldn’t that be just so so loving, yes,loving.And just send a donation.Stop the courses, and GIVE,start the true recovery LOVE, and STOP, the selling!

    • @HealwithLiz
      @HealwithLiz  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We need leaders who demonstrate that they value themselves and their time for a reasonable rate. ME/CFS Integrative doctors are now charging $1000 per hour. Dr. Cat's program is 96 dollars per month, which is more affordable than multiple other programs. Dr. Cat has a family and her success (after being broke for many years) is based on the value she provides others. I know she also helps those who can't afford her program. In an ideal world, chronic illness support and recovery would be covered by health insurance. Note -- I see a large representation of rescuers, over-givers, and people pleasers in the chronic illness community. Telling people that if they recover and succeed they must be a saint who works for free isn't sustainable. Charging for your work doesn't mean you aren't doing your work out of love. That said, I understand the spirit of your message and the frustration of how expensive this journey is, myself having lost everything and being dependent on others.

    • @HealwithLiz
      @HealwithLiz  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you're looking for a by donation program, Daniel Van Loosbroek has good one. He is a single guy who lives very monastically and doesn't have mouths to feed. Unfortunately landlords and banks don't provide housing for free out of love.

    • @nikolaboroja5854
      @nikolaboroja5854 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HealwithLiz The care and help formula: Value > Compansation. In other words what you give is more than what you take. Allwayes a surplus in giving. 😇

  • @robinelliott5561
    @robinelliott5561 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Will Dr. Cat’s program(s) work on people who are in fight/flight/freeze from prescribed benzo withdrawal for several years! I have been doing DNRS for over 6 months and I’ve been able to heal some of the stress related health issues, but I’m never in a normal state in my mind and body. Even when I feel calm, a noise, etc. will make me jump!!

    • @HealwithLiz
      @HealwithLiz  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Robin, Dr. Cat actually had and healed from that same challenge. She specializes in helping people self-regulate and getting out of fight or flight and into a state of primal trust. Sending you my support!

    • @robinelliott5561
      @robinelliott5561 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HealwithLiz - Thank you sooo much! I will get on her website and see what is available! You’re so kind to reply to me!!! 💗💗💗

    • @Melissa-fz6py
      @Melissa-fz6py ปีที่แล้ว

      Dr cat had the challenge of medication withdrawal?

  • @sandramedina9482
    @sandramedina9482 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you Dr cats program?

  • @morningwithgracie7870
    @morningwithgracie7870 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm suffering from psyche meds benzo withrawal?floxed floro antibiotics..pls need help..

    • @__OL__
      @__OL__ ปีที่แล้ว

      This woman also got floxed and developed ME/CFS from it and recovered. She also mentions a doctor in LA who had same issue, but recovered using stem cell therapy and now treats other floxed people with it. Best wishes. th-cam.com/video/XMdnonuIk9s/w-d-xo.html

  • @rasalove6669
    @rasalove6669 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sick people money. Very sick people

  • @sportavventuraroma8480
    @sportavventuraroma8480 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always watch your interview.. but I have 2 observations:
    1. On your channel ( like on the other’s about cfs) the max part of interviews are from people who offer then consultation or have some potential profit coming from the visibility. Uhm…
    2. People says they have all sorts of things: Lyme, fibromyalgia,cfs… but: cfs is a diagnosis that is made where there is no other explanation so if you have Lyme you don’t have cfs but you have Lyme.

  • @B3l0v3d05
    @B3l0v3d05 ปีที่แล้ว

    She doesn't attribute any of this to God???

  • @rasalove6669
    @rasalove6669 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She bought her house in Costa Rica using other peoples money…. I don’t like her.

    • @HealwithLiz
      @HealwithLiz  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Her getting a modest home for having a program which has helped hundreds of people, is hurting you how? I'm confused considering there are functional doctors who charge 15 k just to see them before even ordering a single test. Her program is 96 per month and includes many resources. A tiny tiny fraction.