I've just bought a 6D mark ii. YES it has a few shortfalls but for a responsible price you get a quality full frame camera, access to EF lens and a flip screen for vlogging. A great step up from the 80D. Haha, love the dig at Arsenal 😂😂😂
OMG, that last part with "Tell Me Why" was just hilarious! And yes, 4K would've been nice for some people, but for some of us who shoot stills 99.9% of the time, it's no big deal. I understand the frustration of video people, but the 6D MII isn't going to be for everyone. I guess no camera is all things to all people. In some ways, Canon shot themselves in the foot. They could've added 4K and brought people who were considering Nikon or Fujifilm rigs over to their side. I guess they it's purely a profit-motivated move. I'll probably get this one as my Xmas present, but I was hoping Canon would kick ass with this release. Didn't happen.
Nice to see Gordon and Kai on the same video. Seemingly two nice blokes for a chat and a pint or two down the pub. Add Lok and Mark to that table and things can get even more fun.
If i can shoot 4k at a 100mbps bitrate on my cellphone, there is NO excuse whatsoever for canon not to include it. The specs on the 6dmkII would be great if it was 2015, but its not 2015.
CrxRacer805 Sony includes 4k on pretty much all their cameras now and you don't see that hurting their sales. Infact, it's the usually lower cost cameras that actually make the company money. more low cost high margin sales will always be a better money maker that fewer higher cost, lower margin sales.
Kyle Medina the bitrate IS the amount of data being processed and saved. 100mbps and 100mbps on a cinema camera will produce the same sized files. Bitrate literally is what determines how much computing power you need.
For someone who has been doing well just shooting with a canon t3i for the past 3 years this camera is gonna be a hell of a upgrade, I was excited that it was rumored to have 4K but it's not a deal breaker, it's gonna be a great entry all around professional camera for stills and travel, great ISO range, 4k time-lapse, full hd 60fps and hell the pictures taken with 8,000 ISO on that camera look fanstatic, my t3i can't even go over 400 without looking like trash haha so major improvement can't wait to upgrade
Brilliant work Kai. You captured the essence of frustration with Canon and Arsenal in one video!!! They are both good, but never try to be the best. As a Canon user and an Arsenal fan, I want to scream, "What the hell is wrong with you?" Gordon Laing finish was awesome.
If I go off on the couple of times I watch the news program for children in my country, vlogging, though maybe not always as serious as some of the really big vloggers, is a really widespread thing to do as a hobby.
Hey nothing wrong with that! (Though my reply sounded like I was dumbing it down a lot). The generation growing up now has chances when it comes to making videos that have a level of quality and stability (both image quality wise) that was unheard of when I was growing up. Use it to your full advantage I would say ;-)
Good and brilliant at the end...haha....Kai has found his way again and is doing seriously better than before. More serious like many asked him to. Love Gordon as well, such a nice bloke.
Kai, you are awesome. Football reference made perfect sense at the end and that remix... You are the man! I will wait for the 4K. Thanks for the review too.
Even if Canon won't add 4k 24p, Magic Lantern will. The Digic 7 Processor is more than capable of shooting 4k 24p. The reason Canon won't put 4k in their DSLRs is so they don't cannibalize C100/300/700 sales. The only reason we see Nikon adding 4k to their DSLRs is because they don't have a line of cinema cameras.
That's a big if, and only if the buffer speed of the card slot can accommodate 4k speeds which I highly doubt it can. The magic lantern guys aren't getting paid and I don't think they are going out of their way to buy one to develop for it. If they do, it will be at least another 1-2 years as they work on their own time. I wouldn't buy this camera if you're going to count on magic lantern for 4k video.
Yes Sony has been producing mirrorless cameras that shoot 4k for a while now and have their CineAlta line and have been doing just fine. But what we have to look at is the market. The Canon user market has stuck mostly with DLSRs since the release of the 5d2 because of their initial price point price point and investments in glass. It seems that Canon's goal not only to gain more pro market users who want a cinema platform hence the c100/200/300/700, but also to graduate their existing users into those cameras as well. I think that Canon is relying on the (misconceived) inconvenience of switching systems to get people to buy not just 1 but 2 products for all of their needs. If canon were to introduce 4k into their DSLRs (aside from the 1DX MK2 and the crippled 5D4 4k) it would eliminate that potential market because of the lower price point. Most would say that should have happened to Sony, but the reason it hasn't is because Sony not only makes cameras but they make films (Sony Pictures) where canon does not. This gives them direct access to the pro market. I'm almost certain there isn't a single digitally captured sony film that wasn't shot with a Sony CineAlta. (If someone can prove otherwise I would love to hear about it). This early and direct access to the pro market has allowed sony to establish themselves very well in the industry and is what allowed them to enter the prosumer 4K market without much loss. Canon's cinema camera line is simply too new to start making 4K available in canon DSLRs.
As far as magic lantern goes I'm pretty sure we'll see 4K in the 6D mk II before we see Canon release a DSLR with 4K without a severe crop mode for under $3000 USD.
Eventhough it's missing 4k, and it's a lazy update, somehow it has what I want more from my owned 6D: flip screen, better ISO performance, and 5 axis stabilization in body, finally, after everybody joined the wagon.
well technically it does not state anywhere that it has better iso performance but only that it has a bigger maximum iso. That only means exactly what it states, bigger max iso.
It *doesn't* have 5-axis image stabilization. It's electronic. All software based. You'll have a weird "jello" effect around the edges of an image, just like with Pentax camera. They should have used real 5-axis IBIS like Olympus and Panasonic use.
Aurel Manea I know, but in theory it should be better in low light thanks to a newer processor. I'm just hoping up to one stop better then my 6D. Anything less isn't worth the investment.
Lol this is exactly what I was wondering, I guess they might as well have called it 100 axis, I assume they programmed it 'specifically' for those axes but we wont ever kno
I'd google it, and it is specifically yaw, vertical, horizontal, roll, and pitch stabilization. And that basically covers all movement directions. Don't know what any other axis would be named, if ever.
Same as the electronic SR in latest Pentax cameras. It takes a somewhat cropped image so it can shift it around the full frame image for X, Y and roll axis, then it skews the image on the X axis for pitch and on the Y axis for yaw, basically shifting and keystone corrections as you are familiar with in LR. Not that much effective though, for bigger vibrations it can add artificial jello effects around the edges that is documented at EVERY Pentax review and somehow forgotten on all other brands reviews (where the feature is present). It can still help a lot if you can hold a camera properly instead of shaking it around like an imbecile.
Kai, I'm a big fan--but I may be the only pro out there excited about the new SL2. I use the SL1 in commercial work all the time and yes I owned the A6000---sold that but kept my SL1. Know why? First, it was only $200 on sale two years ago refurb from Canon USA. Second, it had the same 18MP sensor as the big boy. Third, it used all Canon's lenses--especially STM. 99% of pros use 1 focusing point. ONE!!!! We care not about dual pixel and 45, 63, or 163 focus points. One is just fine. So I am thrilled that they decided not to scrap the SL series and now are giving me an articulated screen, 24MPs, faster auto focus and wifi. I am torn whether I should run right out or wait a year till they pop up on clearance for pennies.
Great video Kai - thanks man!! I've noticed the 6D mk2 is very similar price to the 5Dmk3 on the canon website (about £2k) - if you could do a comparison between these two, more for stills, would be a great and useful video for all us landscape photographers looking to step up to FF. Also to see the Nikon 750D Vs 6d mkII would be great, similar weight, and philosophy but does the nikon still have the edge on dynamic range...
Janeshcw if I remember correctly the 6d had better low light performance than the 5dmk3, so the 6dmk2 should be better if you shoot darker landscapes. The 6dmk2 also has a tilt flip screen so you'll be able to see the screen if it's really low or high on your tripod
Hi, Thanks for the reply, yes you are right, it seems that low light performance is likely once again a strength for the 6D mk2, but I still think an actual comparison would make a decent video for Kai, often the theory and figures don't tell the whole story and when your spending £2k, the more you know the better.
Your the best Kai. Cant afford the 5D mark 4, original 6D getting a little dated. Despite the lack of 4K video, going to upgrade to the 6D mark 2. Thanx.
I was going to get the 80D, then heard the 6D mark ii was in the works so I've been waiting... honestly, I'm still undecided. All my lenses are for APS-C cameras, so I'd need to invest in a new set of lenses if I upgrade to full-frame with the 6D mark ii... its a bit expensive for my liking.
Yeah, but it should be much more expensive. If you have the money, then yeah sure. The body will be more expensive and all full frame lenses also. I'm happy with my 70d
At least the 80D spreads its focus points across the sensor. Why does so the 6D cluster them around the centre? By the way, Tony Northrup recommends the 80D with the SIgma f1.8 zooms over the 6D Mk II
I don't work as real estate photographer and I don't print 5 mt , I upgraded once from 750d to 5d miii and honestly , yeah feels good but I was happy before as much as I am now with the result of my pictures and unless the dinamic range will increase by 2 or 3 times so I won't need to take multiple exposure there is no way that I'm going to fall again in this stupid trap of the upgrading . if you don't like your pictures don't blame the camera !!! I've seen beautiful work made with smart phone
Because they are stuck in the past, alongside most camera companies. My phone shoots 4k. I want a $2000 DSLR to shoot 4K or higher. Canon, Nikon...get your shit together.
I guess i been sidetracked by the Sony a6500 that does 1080;120p and 4k. Canon still cant get there. Ive been Canon for the last 12 years but seriously considering converting to Sony.
4K capabilities do not make you a better cinematographer. 4k doesn't change your creative vision, and it doesn't tell the story for you. I believe 80% of the consumer, non-working photographers and videographers complaining in this thread about the lack of 4k capabilities, do not even have a following, because they aren't actually creating content on a regular basis. I'm 23, a successful working photographer/videographer living on my own and supporting myself by doing 3 shoots a day, 5 days a week. I use a Canon 70D with a basic 18-135 kit lens, 50mm, 24mm, and a 11-16mm wide angle lens. With this kit I've delivered around 1400 shoots in 2 years. Do my clients complain about the quality? Hell no. Have I shot photos with a kit lens that ended up in some of Washington DC's best interior design magazines? Yes. And that's the point I'm trying to make.. Until your creative vision surpasses the capabilities of your camera gear, is it really that important? I'm here to upgrade from the 70D, and I can tell you, I do not need 4k. My audience loves the work I can produce with a CROP SENSOR camera and a kit lens as-is.
I think you did not understand the message, it's not about whether the client wants 4k or if people only use 4k is about their competition that is adding more and more things every day, nikon (100Mbps H.264 8-bit internal), panasonic ( internal 4: 2: 2 10-bit 4K), sony (10fps Silent or Mechanical Shutter) and the list goes on, and canon? for the same price of the other cameras is not offering anything new, they put the screen of the 80d and some more details and sell it for $ 1500.... that is the problem.
If you want to have a full frame stills camera from Canon. what is the best to buy? 6d mk1, 5dmk3 (mk4 is above budget) or some extra cash and go for the 6d mk2? is there a lot of difference if you do not need a flippy/touch screen and the more focus points (less for the 6d mk1) is also not that important in my case important things are low iso and long exposures. (1/8000 vs 1/4000 is not a dealbreaker) Is there a reasonable image quality or even focus speed difference that does justify the extra cost for the 5dmk3 or even the 6dmk2 above the old 6dmk1? Btw great remix, like it
maakwatherrie it all comes down to what you're gonna shoot. For me it's portrait so it would be just fine. But if it were for sports or wildlife, I doubt it's gonna last more than 2 weeks without protection.
Would you buy a 600$ phone for the camera and playing triple A games? Of course not. You buy a computer and a camera, and then a phone that costs 100$.
The answer is obvious. You're missing the point though. 4k is an important feature. If 4k is in every $1k phone, then is should be in a $2k camera by Canon of all brands.
Their competition (Sony, Panasonic etc.) all have 4k for the same price range. It's a very stupid move to not include such an important feature at this price point, regardless of it being a stills camera or not. A phone is a phone, but it has the processing power to do so much more; that's why a phone has 4k video and so many other features. The processors in the 6d mkII are not being utilized to their potential by excluding 4k video, and it makes the competition look like a much better choice. Uninformed people and die-hard Canon fans will buy this camera, but the due diligence of smarter people will get them more for their money.
now we'll all see Canon fanboys try to defend it, lets face it, i love Canon for photo, but there is no excuse for not put a 4K video in their camera, it's a new standard, get to it.
thats kinda of logic is like saying oh i dont need air conditioning in my car, i live in iceland. Good for you but that same car drives around in spain where they need it. There is no point in not having it.
jootai so if I live in Iceland I should pay a premium for a function that I will never use. Suggest that the guy in Spain and the guy in Iceland need different cars rather than having one car that can go off road but also lap the Nurburgring in 7 minutes.
Ted Palmer the point is Canons competitors *have* 4K, teamed with greater video and stills functionality granted that excludes the singular redemption: dual pixel AF but across the board they are a lower price tag. 6D shooters are less likely to be bound to canon by vast swathes of expensive L lenses. Those who can afford to buy a C300 MkII do so, those who can't, buy other brands, Canon are alienating huge numbers of once dedicated, extremely loyal consumers. Your use case does not apply to everyone, its simple logic; the more functionality the greater the sales. A 6D is nowhere near a competitive price point against its DSLR and mirrorless competitors or Canons own C cameras, their pricing and product development is moronic. I use Canon commercially and am fortunate enough to have two 5DSr's for stills and a couple of C300 MkII's for video. If I couldn't afford to spend almost £21,000 on video and stills bodies separately along with cards batteries and battery grips (besides my lenses) I would have to look for an all in one option or the unsustainable option of charging my clients for equipment rental every time I shot video, massively diminishing my cut of the profits if I insisted on shooting Canon with no viable cheaper options. Just because you "don't give a shit" doesn't mean everyone looking to buy Canon is in the same boat.
TheRg191 You make a very well composed point and I don't disagree, however I do strongly feel that the gravitas placed on this one feature is massively disproportionate.
When I heard the sweet sweet falsetto at the end mixed into what I would know now to be the new bohemian rhapsody; I ascended to a place of sheer nirvana.
Hello from Russia, Kai! I'm here from DigitalRev channel! Thanks a lot for your videos. I hope to see more with Lok but I know I'm not the only one who asked about it. :) And I see one video posted a week ago) You both are a good team! This mix in the end is great! I laughed. Thanks for your passion and good luck!
i disagree. Keeping the camera more photo friendly will keep the cost down. Therers always a lot better ways to make videos than with an DSLR. You still have that option.
Is it only me think that after 5d IV and 6d II Canon become irrelevant for photo market? Seriously, we will all talk about Sony A7 all versions, gen III and A9 range expantion over next 5 years. Nothing to talk about Canon.
well, 5-10K of glass is miracle. 80% have kit and only kit, next 15% has 2 lens, next 4% has 3 lens, next 0.99 has 4 lens, and just 0.01% has 5+ glass for your 5-10K
As awesome as that bitchin' song was at the end, who cares about 4K? Obviously videographers yes, but the 6D has always catered more towards PHOTOGRAPHY. That's the appeal of it, a great full frame dslr that's not about all the bells and whistles and unnecessary add ons. It's straight to the point.
That is true, people not always need to record video, but then have you looked at what is improved and what is the price comparing to original 6D. It's just an overpriced camera which is what Canon should be blamed for. Small-clustered AF points inherit from 80D, a sensor with less dynamic range , inferior ISO performance (Canon Japan website originally claimed "better ISO performance" but they very silently eliminated those words after Japanese fanboys found it was worse than the original 6D), green-shifted color rendition (due to DPAF) than original 6D but way overpricing $$$$. Would you think this is worth paying?
We came for a light hearted but informed look at the new cameras.
We saw Camera Labs Gordon dancing and singing.
This exceeded all our expectations.
I aim to exceed expectations. Doesn't always work out that way...!
Photogearnews ll
Arguably your best video yet...!
Gordon Laing Probably
Gordon Laing idk he's have tons of them in the past I want to say his best was when he drove the Porsche
Thanks to you
Canon, Why? Tell me why? 🎤🎶
I know, i've watched most of them. I'm only saying that because I'm in this one!
up vote for the remix at the end
is that song available on itunes yet?
Couldn't find the hit song on spotify or iTunes (Kai Ft. Gordon - Y). Where can I find it? :)
LOL
Why
Wembley Hoo yeah we need more of that
Come back to watch this 2 years later just for Gordon's song at the end :-)
I'm here, 4 years later, almost 5.
video starts @ 7:00
I've just bought a 6D mark ii. YES it has a few shortfalls but for a responsible price you get a quality full frame camera, access to EF lens and a flip screen for vlogging. A great step up from the 80D. Haha, love the dig at Arsenal 😂😂😂
that ending killed me
fsociety how are you still alive?
@@AfnanStudio_ r/woooosh
the best thing about that camera is the remix!
wtf is with the little AF cluster, reminds me of the D600.
Canon, tell me why!!?? Song stuck in my head.
OMG, that last part with "Tell Me Why" was just hilarious! And yes, 4K would've been nice for some people, but for some of us who shoot stills 99.9% of the time, it's no big deal. I understand the frustration of video people, but the 6D MII isn't going to be for everyone. I guess no camera is all things to all people. In some ways, Canon shot themselves in the foot. They could've added 4K and brought people who were considering Nikon or Fujifilm rigs over to their side. I guess they it's purely a profit-motivated move. I'll probably get this one as my Xmas present, but I was hoping Canon would kick ass with this release. Didn't happen.
I heard it first from Kai! This is great that you get access to these things even without a huge company backing you. Rock on dude!
Nice to see Gordon and Kai on the same video. Seemingly two nice blokes for a chat and a pint or two down the pub. Add Lok and Mark to that table and things can get even more fun.
If i can shoot 4k at a 100mbps bitrate on my cellphone, there is NO excuse whatsoever for canon not to include it. The specs on the 6dmkII would be great if it was 2015, but its not 2015.
bob345 If Canon included 4k, that would hurt the sales of their more expensive cameras.
CrxRacer805 Sony includes 4k on pretty much all their cameras now and you don't see that hurting their sales. Infact, it's the usually lower cost cameras that actually make the company money. more low cost high margin sales will always be a better money maker that fewer higher cost, lower margin sales.
Kyle Medina the bitrate IS the amount of data being processed and saved. 100mbps and 100mbps on a cinema camera will produce the same sized files. Bitrate literally is what determines how much computing power you need.
What are you talking about? Sony HAS a cinema line: F5, F55, F65, FS-7, FS-5
canon is a dinosaur
i hope this video blows up because it is one of the very first hands on review
As one who doesn't give a rat's behind about the video capabilities of a stills camera, this just landed on my shopping list.
You mean it's a better still camera than other still cameras just because its video capabilities are limited on purpose? ... Nice buying logic.
For someone who has been doing well just shooting with a canon t3i for the past 3 years this camera is gonna be a hell of a upgrade, I was excited that it was rumored to have 4K but it's not a deal breaker, it's gonna be a great entry all around professional camera for stills and travel, great ISO range, 4k time-lapse, full hd 60fps and hell the pictures taken with 8,000 ISO on that camera look fanstatic, my t3i can't even go over 400 without looking like trash haha so major improvement can't wait to upgrade
No flip screen on 5d4, no 4K on 6D2... Who makes this kind of decision inside Canon? They're so dumb.
Wait till 2022 for 5d5 and 6d3
Marketing strategy bro! So people will buy both cam because of different features
Its all money making.. they dont eany you buying just one camera.
Brilliant work Kai. You captured the essence of frustration with Canon and Arsenal in one video!!! They are both good, but never try to be the best. As a Canon user and an Arsenal fan, I want to scream, "What the hell is wrong with you?" Gordon Laing finish was awesome.
I'm not sure why every review touches on vlogging. how many people are actually vlogging?
It's the new selfie:).
Of course they will touch on vlogging. It’s 2017. Vlogging is no longer a new concept of videography.
If I go off on the couple of times I watch the news program for children in my country, vlogging, though maybe not always as serious as some of the really big vloggers, is a really widespread thing to do as a hobby.
I am trying...
Hey nothing wrong with that! (Though my reply sounded like I was dumbing it down a lot). The generation growing up now has chances when it comes to making videos that have a level of quality and stability (both image quality wise) that was unheard of when I was growing up. Use it to your full advantage I would say ;-)
Good and brilliant at the end...haha....Kai has found his way again and is doing seriously better than before. More serious like many asked him to. Love Gordon as well, such a nice bloke.
Holy, CMIIW but you're the first to release 6D preview, good job Kai! Not very excited about the camera tho 😓 no 4K, well done Canon
great video kai!!! welcome back to the old school videos jajaja really great content and funny stuff at the same time
Why? Tell me why????
Kai, you are awesome. Football reference made perfect sense at the end and that remix... You are the man! I will wait for the 4K. Thanks for the review too.
Even if Canon won't add 4k 24p, Magic Lantern will. The Digic 7 Processor is more than capable of shooting 4k 24p. The reason Canon won't put 4k in their DSLRs is so they don't cannibalize C100/300/700 sales. The only reason we see Nikon adding 4k to their DSLRs is because they don't have a line of cinema cameras.
Steven Lipson Then what about sony? They have cinema line and they put 4k in camera line 2-3 years ago.
That's a big if, and only if the buffer speed of the card slot can accommodate 4k speeds which I highly doubt it can. The magic lantern guys aren't getting paid and I don't think they are going out of their way to buy one to develop for it. If they do, it will be at least another 1-2 years as they work on their own time. I wouldn't buy this camera if you're going to count on magic lantern for 4k video.
Kai Liu Sony knows cine cameras will always have it's appeal no matter how good the consumer one's are. canon doesn't realise that
Yes Sony has been producing mirrorless cameras that shoot 4k for a while now and have their CineAlta line and have been doing just fine. But what we have to look at is the market. The Canon user market has stuck mostly with DLSRs since the release of the 5d2 because of their initial price point price point and investments in glass. It seems that Canon's goal not only to gain more pro market users who want a cinema platform hence the c100/200/300/700, but also to graduate their existing users into those cameras as well. I think that Canon is relying on the (misconceived) inconvenience of switching systems to get people to buy not just 1 but 2 products for all of their needs. If canon were to introduce 4k into their DSLRs (aside from the 1DX MK2 and the crippled 5D4 4k) it would eliminate that potential market because of the lower price point.
Most would say that should have happened to Sony, but the reason it hasn't is because Sony not only makes cameras but they make films (Sony Pictures) where canon does not. This gives them direct access to the pro market. I'm almost certain there isn't a single digitally captured sony film that wasn't shot with a Sony CineAlta. (If someone can prove otherwise I would love to hear about it). This early and direct access to the pro market has allowed sony to establish themselves very well in the industry and is what allowed them to enter the prosumer 4K market without much loss.
Canon's cinema camera line is simply too new to start making 4K available in canon DSLRs.
As far as magic lantern goes I'm pretty sure we'll see 4K in the 6D mk II before we see Canon release a DSLR with 4K without a severe crop mode for under $3000 USD.
That ending is why Kai W is my favourite TH-cam!
Eventhough it's missing 4k, and it's a lazy update, somehow it has what I want more from my owned 6D: flip screen, better ISO performance, and 5 axis stabilization in body, finally, after everybody joined the wagon.
well technically it does not state anywhere that it has better iso performance but only that it has a bigger maximum iso. That only means exactly what it states, bigger max iso.
It *doesn't* have 5-axis image stabilization. It's electronic. All software based.
You'll have a weird "jello" effect around the edges of an image, just like with Pentax camera. They should have used real 5-axis IBIS like Olympus and Panasonic use.
Aurel Manea I know, but in theory it should be better in low light thanks to a newer processor. I'm just hoping up to one stop better then my 6D. Anything less isn't worth the investment.
GaryDX25 Ok, I didn't know that. Well that's a hit and miss. But maybe it's useful for longer exposures handheld, I mean 1/4 or something like that.
6d2 IBIS never works for photo, video only.
Your voice is so soothing. You can pass as a radio DJ.
that WHY remix is a bang! Nice music Kai. 😁
That mashup deserves a thumb's up!
If the stabilization is electronic not mechanical, how is it 5 axis?
Lol this is exactly what I was wondering, I guess they might as well have called it 100 axis, I assume they programmed it 'specifically' for those axes but we wont ever kno
InfinitePower Yea, I'm still confused!
I'd google it, and it is specifically yaw, vertical, horizontal, roll, and pitch stabilization. And that basically covers all movement directions. Don't know what any other axis would be named, if ever.
Amdi Ikhsan But if it's software, not hardware based, they aren't shifting the sensor on any axis so how is it working on 5 axis?
Same as the electronic SR in latest Pentax cameras. It takes a somewhat cropped image so it can shift it around the full frame image for X, Y and roll axis, then it skews the image on the X axis for pitch and on the Y axis for yaw, basically shifting and keystone corrections as you are familiar with in LR.
Not that much effective though, for bigger vibrations it can add artificial jello effects around the edges that is documented at EVERY Pentax review and somehow forgotten on all other brands reviews (where the feature is present).
It can still help a lot if you can hold a camera properly instead of shaking it around like an imbecile.
I knew Kai would be one of the first on TH-cam to show this :)
Premium Beat track + Gordon Laing mashup!!!!!!!!!!!!! This years summerhit!
Kai, I'm a big fan--but I may be the only pro out there excited about the new SL2. I use the SL1 in commercial work all the time and yes I owned the A6000---sold that but kept my SL1. Know why? First, it was only $200 on sale two years ago refurb from Canon USA. Second, it had the same 18MP sensor as the big boy. Third, it used all Canon's lenses--especially STM. 99% of pros use 1 focusing point. ONE!!!! We care not about dual pixel and 45, 63, or 163 focus points. One is just fine. So I am thrilled that they decided not to scrap the SL series and now are giving me an articulated screen, 24MPs, faster auto focus and wifi. I am torn whether I should run right out or wait a year till they pop up on clearance for pennies.
It's the year 2017 and one of the major camera manufacturers just released a $2000USD Full Frame DSLR, without 4K video capabilities. $2000USD!
Grouperhound rekt
Love your last minute remix
Goddamn do I love Gordon!
You're alright too Kai.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Great mix at the end. Well done Kai!
I beg of you. Please end every video with a remix like that XD
The humor of this guy... YES!
Great video Kai - thanks man!!
I've noticed the 6D mk2 is very similar price to the 5Dmk3 on the canon website (about £2k) - if you could do a comparison between these two, more for stills, would be a great and useful video for all us landscape photographers looking to step up to FF. Also to see the Nikon 750D Vs 6d mkII would be great, similar weight, and philosophy but does the nikon still have the edge on dynamic range...
Janeshcw if I remember correctly the 6d had better low light performance than the 5dmk3, so the 6dmk2 should be better if you shoot darker landscapes. The 6dmk2 also has a tilt flip screen so you'll be able to see the screen if it's really low or high on your tripod
Hi, Thanks for the reply, yes you are right, it seems that low light performance is likely once again a strength for the 6D mk2, but I still think an actual comparison would make a decent video for Kai, often the theory and figures don't tell the whole story and when your spending £2k, the more you know the better.
Your the best Kai. Cant afford the 5D mark 4, original 6D getting a little dated. Despite the lack of 4K video, going to upgrade to the 6D mark 2. Thanx.
A FULL FRAME CANON WITH A FLIPPY JIPPY SCREEN! HOLY SHITE, goodbye 80d
Exactly, as an 80D owner I am quite saddened by this :(
I was going to get the 80D, then heard the 6D mark ii was in the works so I've been waiting... honestly, I'm still undecided. All my lenses are for APS-C cameras, so I'd need to invest in a new set of lenses if I upgrade to full-frame with the 6D mark ii... its a bit expensive for my liking.
Yeah, but it should be much more expensive. If you have the money, then yeah sure.
The body will be more expensive and all full frame lenses also. I'm happy with my 70d
This thing is basically a full frame 80D.
At least the 80D spreads its focus points across the sensor. Why does so the 6D cluster them around the centre? By the way, Tony Northrup recommends the 80D with the SIgma f1.8 zooms over the 6D Mk II
The song at the end is gold!
All the 6DmkII vids are coming out at the same time. Oy...and check out the Stormtrooper camera. hee hee....
The remix is gold. Love your stuff Kai!
Kai, unless Canon can start putting features like eye autofocus, focus peaking, etc like Sony has been doing, my next camera is going to be a Sony
The best outro ever! This needs to be downloadable on iTunes. 😂😂😂👍🔥
It's really a shame that they couldn't include a headphone jack which the 80D has at half the price.
love that remix at the end. you guys should make some more! Why? Tell me Why?
I don't work as real estate photographer and I don't print 5 mt , I upgraded once from 750d to 5d miii and honestly , yeah feels good but I was happy before as much as I am now with the result of my pictures and unless the dinamic range will increase by 2 or 3 times so I won't need to take multiple exposure there is no way that I'm going to fall again in this stupid trap of the upgrading . if you don't like your pictures don't blame the camera !!! I've seen beautiful work made with smart phone
I love your channel and your vids! all of them. And you really have given me a different outlook on my hobby in general!
The 6d mk2 is nearly like the 80d.
Awwm man I used to commute on that exact First Capital Connect train for years into london, thank god those days are over
seriously canon wtf why no 4k
Because they are stuck in the past, alongside most camera companies. My phone shoots 4k. I want a $2000 DSLR to shoot 4K or higher. Canon, Nikon...get your shit together.
I have a canon 80d
I am thinking of getting a gh4
Emad Van- Shouldn't the answer be obvious?
you and I bet 100,000s of people currently with Canon cameras looking to upgrade.
+Emad Van- GH4 has no in body stabilization.
Lol great video. 6D looks interesting. We do need a longer version of that "Tell me why" by you Kai.
who else didn't even know they released the 6d mark 2 lol
me
dt_416 me
i didn't even knew there was a 6d mk 1. lol.
I guess i been sidetracked by the Sony a6500 that does 1080;120p and 4k. Canon still cant get there. Ive been Canon for the last 12 years but seriously considering converting to Sony.
If you follow canonrumours.com - you would have known moons ago :P
Man the song was the icing actually the cake. I would watch this again just for the song
COYG!! 👍👍👍
Nice review! Love the song, Gordon and you should def. go for the charts!!
1:35
"Whoops, accidentally threw it off the roof."
That Ending was incredible!
4K capabilities do not make you a better cinematographer. 4k doesn't change your creative vision, and it doesn't tell the story for you. I believe 80% of the consumer, non-working photographers and videographers complaining in this thread about the lack of 4k capabilities, do not even have a following, because they aren't actually creating content on a regular basis.
I'm 23, a successful working photographer/videographer living on my own and supporting myself by doing 3 shoots a day, 5 days a week. I use a Canon 70D with a basic 18-135 kit lens, 50mm, 24mm, and a 11-16mm wide angle lens. With this kit I've delivered around 1400 shoots in 2 years.
Do my clients complain about the quality? Hell no. Have I shot photos with a kit lens that ended up in some of Washington DC's best interior design magazines? Yes. And that's the point I'm trying to make.. Until your creative vision surpasses the capabilities of your camera gear, is it really that important? I'm here to upgrade from the 70D, and I can tell you, I do not need 4k. My audience loves the work I can produce with a CROP SENSOR camera and a kit lens as-is.
nobody has a problem with 1080p, but for 2k, yes.
I think you did not understand the message, it's not about whether the client wants 4k or if people only use 4k is about their competition that is adding more and more things every day, nikon (100Mbps H.264 8-bit internal), panasonic ( internal 4: 2: 2 10-bit 4K), sony (10fps Silent or Mechanical Shutter) and the list goes on, and canon? for the same price of the other cameras is not offering anything new, they put the screen of the 80d and some more details and sell it for $ 1500.... that is the problem.
Wow they could have created something revolutionary... a full frame vlogging camera and they passed it up..
hahahahaha!!! 6d preview feat gordon remix
If you want to have a full frame stills camera from Canon. what is the best to buy? 6d mk1, 5dmk3 (mk4 is above budget) or some extra cash and go for the 6d mk2? is there a lot of difference if you do not need a flippy/touch screen and the more focus points (less for the 6d mk1) is also not that important in my case
important things are low iso and long exposures. (1/8000 vs 1/4000 is not a dealbreaker)
Is there a reasonable image quality or even focus speed difference that does justify the extra cost for the 5dmk3 or even the 6dmk2 above the old 6dmk1?
Btw great remix, like it
Hi Kai! Haha that kinda rimes lol
Good info and I always love your creative style.
Canon is slowly killing itself......Used to be hyped for the upcoming 6d2, now I want an a7ii it's way better and cheaper (2nd hand)
Marcuskrh ...and more reliable?
maakwatherrie it all comes down to what you're gonna shoot. For me it's portrait so it would be just fine. But if it were for sports or wildlife, I doubt it's gonna last more than 2 weeks without protection.
Give Kai 💊 + 📹 + full artistic freedom = some amazing videos.
Here you go 7:05 Thank me later
Dying over the remix at the end. HILARIOUS.
Tell me why? - Lol! That was worth the price of admission :)
That inspiring lecture at the beginning was cool. Do it often 😀
No 4K camera? Its a digital stills camera that shoots video, its not a video camera. No idea why people have a problem here
Because it costs 2000$. Would you get a 600$ phone that only does calls because laptops exist? Of course not, silly...
+Kekistani Cat damn that was a great point
Would you buy a 600$ phone for the camera and playing triple A games? Of course not. You buy a computer and a camera, and then a phone that costs 100$.
Because these days even toasters do 4k video. Companies are already releasing 5k monitors. 4K isn't a luxury anymore, its should be standard.
its a Camera not Cinema Camera
Oh that "tell me why" song is the bomb!
$2,000 and it still shoots 1080p 60fps LOL
At least a 120fps could have been added
Amazing video Kai, as always
No 4k for a $2k camera in 2017. GTFO
No. I use 4k clips to edit on a 1080p timeline, so the master is 1080p.
Are you saying I make lousy vids?
The answer is obvious. You're missing the point though. 4k is an important feature. If 4k is in every $1k phone, then is should be in a $2k camera by Canon of all brands.
Their competition (Sony, Panasonic etc.) all have 4k for the same price range. It's a very stupid move to not include such an important feature at this price point, regardless of it being a stills camera or not. A phone is a phone, but it has the processing power to do so much more; that's why a phone has 4k video and so many other features. The processors in the 6d mkII are not being utilized to their potential by excluding 4k video, and it makes the competition look like a much better choice. Uninformed people and die-hard Canon fans will buy this camera, but the due diligence of smarter people will get them more for their money.
now we'll all see Canon fanboys try to defend it, lets face it, i love Canon for photo, but there is no excuse for not put a 4K video in their camera, it's a new standard, get to it.
I'm so glad i found this channel
Really don't give a shit about 4K as a still shooter, and quite frankly bored of hearing people moan on about it.
thats kinda of logic is like saying oh i dont need air conditioning in my car, i live in iceland. Good for you but that same car drives around in spain where they need it. There is no point in not having it.
jootai so if I live in Iceland I should pay a premium for a function that I will never use. Suggest that the guy in Spain and the guy in Iceland need different cars rather than having one car that can go off road but also lap the Nurburgring in 7 minutes.
That's not gonna make anything cheaper. 6D will still cost the same and it won't have that feature.
Ted Palmer the point is Canons competitors *have* 4K, teamed with greater video and stills functionality granted that excludes the singular redemption: dual pixel AF but across the board they are a lower price tag. 6D shooters are less likely to be bound to canon by vast swathes of expensive L lenses. Those who can afford to buy a C300 MkII do so, those who can't, buy other brands, Canon are alienating huge numbers of once dedicated, extremely loyal consumers.
Your use case does not apply to everyone, its simple logic; the more functionality the greater the sales. A 6D is nowhere near a competitive price point against its DSLR and mirrorless competitors or Canons own C cameras, their pricing and product development is moronic.
I use Canon commercially and am fortunate enough to have two 5DSr's for stills and a couple of C300 MkII's for video. If I couldn't afford to spend almost £21,000 on video and stills bodies separately along with cards batteries and battery grips (besides my lenses) I would have to look for an all in one option or the unsustainable option of charging my clients for equipment rental every time I shot video, massively diminishing my cut of the profits if I insisted on shooting Canon with no viable cheaper options. Just because you "don't give a shit" doesn't mean everyone looking to buy Canon is in the same boat.
TheRg191 You make a very well composed point and I don't disagree, however I do strongly feel that the gravitas placed on this one feature is massively disproportionate.
5:24 I always get sweaty palms every time Kai does this sort of handling a camera.
The AF points and low light AF accuracy is more cancerous than Jake Paul
up vote for the remix at the end x100!!! best review ever (remix helped alot...lack of 4K didn't) ...Kai ...you are the camera stud!!!
i'm much more interested in the 200d
When I heard the sweet sweet falsetto at the end mixed into what I would know now to be the new bohemian rhapsody; I ascended to a place of sheer nirvana.
why Canon WHY???
Hello from Russia, Kai! I'm here from DigitalRev channel! Thanks a lot for your videos. I hope to see more with Lok but I know I'm not the only one who asked about it. :) And I see one video posted a week ago) You both are a good team!
This mix in the end is great! I laughed. Thanks for your passion and good luck!
BYE BY CANON. HELLO PANASONIC GH5.
Miquel Roman fuck off then
Kooniiee hahhahhhhah 🤣
That remix will stick in my head for days.
WHY!
That music video at the end was awesome 😁
The Nikon D820 and D760 will burn this sucker!! xD
Athul Krishnan Hopefully
my samsung note 4 burns this sucker
nikon did it! The awesome D850!
This was an amazing video Kai! Keep it up! :)
i disagree. Keeping the camera more photo friendly will keep the cost down. Therers always a lot better ways to make videos than with an DSLR. You still have that option.
I wasn't going to finish the video, very glad I did.
Is it only me think that after 5d IV and 6d II Canon become irrelevant for photo market?
Seriously, we will all talk about Sony A7 all versions, gen III and A9 range expantion over next 5 years. Nothing to talk about Canon.
dimonan for forum warriors Canon will be irrelevant in a few years. The average consumer buys canon. They make more profit than any camera maker.
well, 5-10K of glass is miracle. 80% have kit and only kit, next 15% has 2 lens, next 4% has 3 lens, next 0.99 has 4 lens, and just 0.01% has 5+ glass for your 5-10K
Number 1 camera reviewer on TH-cam
As awesome as that bitchin' song was at the end, who cares about 4K?
Obviously videographers yes, but the 6D has always catered more towards PHOTOGRAPHY. That's the appeal of it, a great full frame dslr that's not about all the bells and whistles and unnecessary add ons. It's straight to the point.
That is true, people not always need to record video, but then have you looked at what is improved and what is the price comparing to original 6D. It's just an overpriced camera which is what Canon should be blamed for. Small-clustered AF points inherit from 80D, a sensor with less dynamic range , inferior ISO performance (Canon Japan website originally claimed "better ISO performance" but they very silently eliminated those words after Japanese fanboys found it was worse than the original 6D), green-shifted color rendition (due to DPAF) than original 6D but way overpricing $$$$. Would you think this is worth paying?
Kai, your new content is better than most of your good old DigitalRev stuff (which I really enjoyed)!