Just wanted to say thank you. My son had been using an old FM2 socket AMD, and was really suffering when he tried to game. I don't have the money to give him a new Ryzen rig, let alone ANYTHING i series intel based. But after watching your videos, I got an x5650 for 10 bucks, a board for 75, and 8 gigs of ram free from some old computer rigs at work. I even splurged and got him a refurbished 1060 GTX (the most expensive part of the build). He's sporting a rig that now plays all his games wonderfully, and didn't break the bank. I got the rig up to 4ghz on air, mem at 1600. And best of all, its a rig that will last at least a few years, if not push a decade. Thank you very much
I still game on a p55 chip set board.. sure it's the best p55 board ever made (Asus ROG Maximus III Extreme) and the best i7 (875k) that I could have in it but it's starting to age really badly now. But it still games and streams it's a solid computer for most games still.
Thank you for the comparison, this is extremely helpful to me, I am about to upgrade my X58 - x5670 to a Ryzen 3700X . I bought my X58 system when it was the latest thing (over 10 years ago) all I have done since then is upgrade the graphics card to a RTX 2070 and I changed the original i920 to the x5670 a couple of years ago. Best value system I have ever owned!
Same here bro...X58 is literally the best deal of the decade. And I don't mean just now...even when new it was a huge jump ahead with no added cost compared to its predecessor. The good old days....with DDR3 triple channel I am skipping DDR4 altogether. I will upgrade when DDR5 comes with zen3 or something like that. Especially in 4k gaming the CPU is not that important.
I remember that people laughed at you in 2009 for using 11 year old hardware. If you were using 11 year old hardware in 2009, that meant you were using a Pentium II 300-450Mhz SINGLE core CPU or an AMD K6-II clocked at up to 550Mhz, the fastest gaming CPU of 1998, as opposed to the recently released Core i7 and Core 2 Quad CPUs. Yeah. Unbelievable.
I'm still rocking with my BSEL modded Intel Pentium E2160, vmodded ATI HD4670 and 19'' 1280x1024 monitor. I can play AAA games like The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion/Skyrim, The Witcher 2, Mass Effect 1/2/3, Dragon Age 1/2/3 and Fallout 3/NV/TTW. Too bad I can't play Fallout 4 or The Witcher 3 because my GPU doesn't support DX11, but I can watch ''Let's play'' videos and it's almost like playing the game. I have my studio tour and gaming setup video on my channel.
@@basshead. is this some kind of peasent joke i am to... Wait i have an amd a4 3300m with radeon 6480g graphics and 3 gb of ram and by that i am still poor. Wait technically my Laptop broke and you are richer than me. Reality dont hurt so much. Thanks my new pc is coming.
I love those platforms X58 & X79. Such beasts of their time, keeping up with the new stuff. It's a testament to how good they were back in the day. I myself put a USD 507 (pricing here in Bulgaria is all over the place) machine based on a Lenovo ThinkStation, now rocking a E3-1270v2, 16 GB DDR3, Sapphire Nitro+ RX580, Kingston 480GB SSD and a Seasonic Focus Gold 650W PSU. Works like a charm and plays the games I want.
Кой модел ThinkStation ползвате, погледнах няколко сайта за машини втора ръка, но са кът? Аз търсих ThinkCentre машините, но не побират голяма видеокарта.
@@НиколаГеоргиев-ш2б - ThinkStation E31 но махнах долната скоба за хард. Имайте предвид, че дъната на Леново са с 14-pin букса за захранването и трябва преходник към стандартното ATX с 24-pin. За голямата Sapphire RX580 махнах долната скоба за хард диска и се събра без проблем. С всички ъпгрейди (SSD, захранване, видеокарта, преходник захранвене, процесор и охладител) ми се върза точно 888.63 лева. Та за тези пари мисля, че е страхотно съотношение цена-производителност.
Loved the video! I've got two X5670s still buggering on and they're delightful to tinker with. I definitely use my oc'd 1700 instead when gaming but the x58 xeons are still great and even at stock provide a decent gaming/work experience.
Ive only watched the first 20 seconds but Brian, It's not always about how much you get things for but rather, how much they're worth. If i get a X58 board for $20 but it's worth $150 you can be damn sure i'm going to re-sell sell it for $150! Everyones mind work differently but i feel like money is lost if i don't capitalize on the resale in that situation. I picked up a cheap Ryzen 1600 for $100 used and a B350 for $65 used so i could resell it for a tiny bit more but i feel good keeping it knowing it won't depreciate and insane amount of the next year or so.
Upgraded from a x5670 @4.4ghz to a ryzen 5 3600 and im very pleased with the ryzen so far, higher fps and smoother frames in games and have the option to move up to an 8 or 12 down the road when the 4000 series comes out. Keeping the x58 as a gaming/schoolwork pc for the kids so its still got a few more years of use ahead.
Oh man, this takes me back a couple years to your overwatch PC build where you convinced me to pick up an x58 motherboard and an x5660. These x58 xeons were always some good fun to use and overclock, but all good things must come to an end.
Thanks to your videos..... I rebuilt my desktop/server back early 2016 with a Xeon E5-2658 V3 with 32GB DDR4 on the 2011-v3 platform. At the time.... I planned and researched for 3 months to find the right Xeon, motherboard and RAM for my needs (and to find good sales). The final price tag was about $500 (months before the DDR4 prices went nuts). I was running a 6-core AMD 1100T (no threading) and I wanted high-end I7 performance at AMD prices (Ryzen was no-where on the horizon at that time). I planned to be able to upgrade to a faster Xeon as prices allowed. But it seams that after 3 years.... Ryzen's 3000 Series pricing and performance is going to beat the hell out of any faster used Xeon I can get my hands on PERIOD. Even a 22-Core/44-Threaded used Xeon is not going to beat a Ryzen 7 3900x in price or performance. So... My next upgrade will be a Ryzen 7 3900x and new motherboard unless a Xeon just drops into my lap for a laughably cheap price. In any case, I will be waiting, planning and researching for a while. I made a promise to my self a long time ago to never pay more than $200 for a CPU. I've kept every system I have built in the past 2 decades in or around $500.
@@tadejdanev5030 most are damged, and not worth if you dont get it for a realllyyyy cheap price. If you are going to pay $130 you might just put more and get something newer.
Delighted to see another X58 video. I've just finished a massive rebuild on a dual X5690 (A video will appear eventually). It would eat your X5660 productivity scores with 12 cores and 24 threads but it's not over-clockable, just ~3.5 GHz. One of the GPUs is though, a Palit Super Jetstream GTX 980 Ti (3 slot beast). I've squeezed an extra 330 MHz on the memory and 75MHz on the core out of it without stability issues as such. I am having a weird hard reset issue though whenever I load up either GPU suddenly. Could be some sort of OCP issue on the board (Dell Precision T7500) or PSU (1100W). Its odd as measured at the wall it has never topped 500W and normally sits at about 320W. Maybe something is on the way to failing. I wondered if you'd ever seen a similar issue with all your X58 experience?
Ran my Dell XPS 420 with BSEL OC on a Q6600 (3Ghz) for ELEVEN YEARS!!!! I couldn't afford to decommission it any earlier because the damn thing cost me nearly $3000 new. Upgraded in late 2018 to an X79/E5-1660, OC to 4.3 Ghz, and have been quite pleasantly surprised at the value/performance. I think I spent about $520 on the complete system, to include a new Coolermaster RGB blinged case with tempered glass side, new PS, 16GB EEC RAM, and used motherboard and GTX980. Love this channel.
It's so cool that you are planning to do an LGA2011 comparison with literally the exact same hardware I am about to build with! To be specific, that's my Asus Rampage IV Extreme and the Xeon E5-1680 V2 that I finally got around to buying when there were only two left for $200 on eBay! I'm hoping this E5-1680 V2 will be able to reach similar clocks as my previous CPU, an E5-1650 (V1/Sandy-E), which were 4.7GHz with HT on and 5.0GHz with HT off (gaming OC profile) on a Corsair H100i (2x120mm). These chips do clock like gangbusters, and have only shown temperature limitations up to 5GHz in my limited experience with the Rampage IV. LGA2011 processors do clearly have improved OCing over LGA1366, which even with pretty good cooling and unlocked CPUs like the W3690 seem to top out around 4.5GHz with HT on and 4.7GHz with HT off. So I feel like I should ditch one of my 1366 rigs in order to work the 2011 rig into the mix, but I love both of my 1366 mobos! The Gigabyte GA-X58A-OC and the Gigabyte G1 Guerrilla are both just super-badass boards for that platform, and replete with both nostalgia and actually good performance. I hate to set either aside inactive, so I should probably sell one. But I can't choose which to ditch. Any thoughts, anyone?
1680v2 won’t overclock as well as the 1650v2 in my experience. You will get great multi core performance; I get an r15 score of around 1500 at 4.2ghz. But at 4.6 the multi core score plummets.
@@tubularmonkeymaniac interesting. Is this temperature-related at all? Have you by any chance experimented with HT off? I always end up setting a gaming profile with HT turned off because it seems to consistently net me 200-300 extra MHz. Anyway, thanks for your insight!
Might have lost the silicon lottery, but def not temperature related, sits below 40c at 4.6. Mind you this is me OCing for a usable system with speedstep etc enabled. Maybe if you were just going for cinebench scores you could get higher.
@@Thefuror38500 TBF that's a $600+ CPU used. Lots of other variables, I might have lost silicon lottery, my voltage settings could be improved. But I found the 1650 v2 a lot easier to OC.
I literally ran a X58 based system for almost 8 years. One of the best platforms ever!!! Ran it with an i7 920 OC'd to 4GHz for years, then popped in a Xeon X5650 and OC'd it to 4GHz for at least a couple years too. I only switched to a Ryzen 2600 when I couldn't hold the 4GHz OC anymore.
That actually is very cool. I have a pair of LGA1366 rigs I keep for the sake of collecting cool hardware, and I semi-splurged for a Xeon W3690 and a Xeon W3680 (for the unlocked multipliers). But you have more actual "overclocker cred" with your X5675, which I know from personal experience can reach the same exact top speeds as anything else on the platform without having an unlocked multiplier as long as you know what you're doing.
@@2102Chris that's a great point. To the BIOS, the workstation CPUs are basically indistinguishable from the desktop CPUs, but some BIOSes could certainly have issues with the dual-socket server CPUs. As cheap the workstation chips are, it's certainly worth a shot!
This was great! I love tinkering with the x58 stuff and it’s obvious that a lot of people love it with the current prices holding strong. I was really wanting to see a comparison just like this! Yours are the only Tech videos on TH-cam that I like to watch more than once.
I just upgraded my x58 xeon system for ryzen 7. I built it new with a i7920 a decade ago.and ran it ocd to 4.0 ghz. 2 years ago i swapped it for a xeon.The x58 is now my sons. For him its brand new and hes thrilled.
Excellent review... I was rocking a 980x for the longest time, in an Alienware Auroroa R1 that was given to me with a 920 in it. That kept up with a 2070 no problem, and only recently got upgraded due to a little project I simply wanted to do. Which was to convert that Aurora R1 into an R4 via slight case mods to accommodate the slightly different mobo, and mostly to accommodate the different cpu back-plate for the aio. Beyond that, it all just worked... and now I am running the new and shiny .. . .. i7 3930K, which will soon be a 4930K.... either way, this clears up some SATA 3 issues, brings better USB 3 functionality... cleans up ram compatibility and makes using DDR3 2400MHZ and overclocking it easier... so on and so forth. That said, the 980x was already keeping up with a 7700K and then some @ around 4.4Ghz. With the 3930K going a tad further, and the 4930K likely making things a bit easier to come. But speed wise.... x58 is hardly any slower than Sandy, Ivy, Broad, Has.... they can all run hand in hand while crunching numbers.... and can all embarrass the absolute hell out of the new and expensive shit. Depreciation is very real, and it pays dividends to be on the smart side of it.
I am watching this on a X58 Asus sabretooth with xeon x5675, 24gb ram, rx580 and a 500gb SSD. Runs like an old beast. :) My son games on this rig and it runs 4k 60hz with no problems at all. Great old tech and Brian it was given some tech yes style clean loving. Keep up the great work.
Gotta get the 8700K up in there. Not evryone has a Micro Center to go to but if you find yourself at one, they have 8700K's for $250 with a mobo combo and RX 5700 for $300. That's a awesome set up for a fairly good price. Also the 9700K is $270 and the 9900K is $420, both get $30 off when buying a motherboard combo. Things are looking good over here. The ram prices are at a all time low. I bought almost a Terabyte of ram for future builds, and the slowest kit is 3200MHz CL16 that can clock to 4GHz CL 17 on the right mobo.
I am still rocking an x58 system as one of my secondary (guest) gaming boxes. It still runs its original i7940, but I will probably pick up a 6 core for it. It also rocks a 660ti graphics board. So it is a bit behind but it is still capable of playing most games really really well. Overclocking these machines is a real work of art. So many knobs to turn, and getting them to peak performance was very satisfying. You had to work for it.
Been following this channel for a while now and as we regular followers know, this guy loves his X58s 🙂. I am also a value for money kind of person, so what I love about his reviews - compared to some of his peers some of whom have millions more subs - is the thoroughness of his reviews. Granted he gives the benchmarks (all of them do) but also clearly states facts that others tend to leave out more often than not - such as power draw. So while its easy to prove to his subscribers how much value they can get by saving money upfront with an X58, he also clearly provides power draw comparison data which folks can use to run their own calculations based on power cost in their own areas to judge whether and how long the upfront savings might last. In short, even though he clearly loves X58s, his reviews provide a much more rounded and unbiased analysis and approach that his viewers can follow to decide for themselves whether X58 makes sense for them or not. Well done, mate! Keep up the good work 👍
Really nice channel. I am not a Gamer but an IT Pro and have a X58 System since 10Years now and use it primary for Virtualization on Hyper-V. I have a MSI X58Pro Board with 48GB Ram, GTX970, 2 Samsung 850Ssd, 1 HDD and currently a I920 CPU. I will add also an additional M2 SSD via a PCIe Adapter now. You will call me an idiot because I have since almost 2 years a X5675 CPU here but never had time to build it in and OC it. But hopefully in the next Weekends... I really like the X58 platform but as you said it’s becoming now old. For me the topic of fast storage is more important and the newer chipset with the support for a lot of M2 SSDs and more PCI lanes, USB3.1 etc. I guess this will be the only reason why to upgrade for me. But I will keep the current system for a year or so with X5675.
Got my friend a Asus p6t SE and an i7 960. Paired it with a x5660 and oc'd it to around 4.3 Ghz. It still is shocking we got the whole thing done for 700 Turkish Liras or around 120 dollars. It was in a huge server case with 500 fps psu so it saved us from buying a new one. The only thing that is missing now is a rx 580 8gb or something like that.
Dear Brian, you should try Korean sites such as Gmarket. The x58 boards there are pretty cheap. Also if you can, try to visit South Korea and do some deals here; you'll be surprised on what you might find.
Thanks for the comparison Bryan. I know your test methodology was for a CPU comparison but I would've been interested to see how they compare at a more realistic resolution someone would be using if they had a 2080 Ti like 4K or 1440 UW. I'm still running my X5680 with a 1080Ti at 3440x1440 but I'm not sure a GPU upgrade will be worth it since I feel like I've pretty much reached the limit with the 1080 Ti. Would've loved to see one or two benches with the 2080 Ti to see how much the old Xeon's are holding it back, if it's not too late please crank one out. Thanks for all your hard work and keep these old comparisons coming!
X58 is one of the few platforms I believe that have aged really well. The triple channel memory really helped to give it some longevity. That is if you don't mind that power consumption lol.
My man! I'm 2 steps away replacing my x58 by Zen2. A bit dissapointed of the gap but we are speaking of THE best platform we have had and never will see again 😢
I'm going Ryzen because I'm moving to ITX and I want better power efficiency. Using an X5660 and an R9 390 just kicks out so much heat. I know it's not a big jump, but it's time....
I'm still on x79 with a core i7 3930k @ 4.4ghz. Still giving me at least 60fps in every game I play, (using a 60hz screen). Got the motherboard CPU and ram for a bargain price (£100). Power consumption is fairly high compared to the latest Ryzen CPU's, but it still good enough for me for the time being.
Still on X58 myself too. Dual 6C - 96Gb RAM - nvme PCI boot SSD - Usb 3 - Sata3. Oh, and a GTX960. I used to do 3d design as an architect first, but the last years I use the machine for timelapse photography. For a couple of years more I guess it will be OK.
Hi the interballs X58 king :) I just purchased a X58 sabretooth board on Ebay lol, it will be teamed with a W5690 and 24 gigs of ram and a 980Ti I love the old girl...…. cant get rid of it and as I am not gaming on it and I use it for the occasional video render, I find it quite hard to part with the old girl and upgrade to more modern stuff all thanks to you the X58 King!
I've used an X58 board with an i7-930 for almost 10 years. Got a relatively cheap RTX 2070 recently and could tell a bit of a bottleneck. So I finally upgraded and got a an Asus Prime X370 Pro for cheap, 16 gigs of G.Skill 3200 CL14 for very cheap, a new Ryzen 5 3600 and second hand nvme. Amazing price/performance and I especially like the upgrade to Sata 3 and being able to boot from nvme now. But I will miss the overclockability of X58!
So my introductory into the x58 realm was a whopping $10. Met up with a nice gent with a 4th gen intel and MSi gaming board. This is what I was building for the wife as another rig. Told him I really didnt even want the other board due to it being a first gen i7. Of course I got it dirt cheap as he was thinking the same. So with CPU upgrade (x5675), old server memory I got for free (6x2gb ECC), and mobo Im in it for under $50. The exact scenario that makes this platform so amazing.
I'd like to see a X58 vs R5 3600 comparison with heavy Adobe Lightroom editing. I have a W3690 which I think is basically the same as the one in this video. 24gb ram and GTX 970. Adobe Lightroom lags like hell with it. Would you recommend upgrading to Ryzen for things that require more workstation power?
I have the same processor but unfortunately i don't have an overclocking motherboard My system dell t3500 but I am happy with my PC I bought it really cheap.... I paired it with rx 470😁 Enjoying Gaming @1080P Sorry for bad English:)
I have T3500, I also got a 45$ unlocked W3680 from aliexpress. I use TS software to OC it to 4.1 GHz. I use a PCIE USB3 adapter and a 4 port USB3 Hub front Panel that fits in front floppy vent. I use a PCIE adapter to boot Windows from M.2 NVME drive using DUET-RFIND. T3500 is fun.
Rockin x58 still. Was my first build way back when the 920 was new. A $26 used xeon, a ram and gpu upgrade every once in a long while, and I'm STILL current useable/practical-horsepower-wise. Only until very recently have I decided it needed a boost. 3.2ghz 6 core xeon 12gb ddr3 1600 (almost time for more) Gtx1080 (upgraded from 750ti 3 days ago) Bleeding edge these days doesn't make much sense/net enough gains to justify costs (benchmarks does not necessarily = experienced gains). Also learned my lesson buying a gtx295 when it was the beastestest gpu. Much better/economical to stay behind the edge of the tech blade and buy used/"old"..
Great video! I think it would be interesting to see a comparison between the Ryzen 5 3600 and the i7 5820k. In my country you can find some for around 200$ on the used market. The X99 motherboards can also be had for around 100$ if you go deal hunting.
I had an X58 and an i7 980X. It was awesome. It only gained about 7% on overclock though. The cpu was originally 1000 us dollars and the motherboard was about 250 us dollars. Very intrigued by this video. Thanks
That's strange. A x58 cpu should be possible to at least increase it's speed by 30%. The biggest difference in added perfrormance i had was a overclocked i7 920. I managed to overclock it from 2.6Ghz to 4.6Ghz. That's over a whopping 56% overclock!
@@opoxious1592 yes. I could over lock its number to get a higher clock speed but it not increase actual performance by much. Like 5 - 10 % honestly It was a waste of time
Likewise. I'm waiting for 2nd gen RTX and will stay with Intel and whatever they have going in 2020, which is when I suspect NVIDIA will be dropping the next gen cards. Im clapping AMD on to put the pressure on Intel and Nvidia but im not an AMD platform guy. No amount of marketing or performance increases at this point will change that. The company who gets to the 3D processor first is what is going to sway my platform choice.
By the way, I saw a 10 % boost in average FPS on Company of Heroes 2 with disabling all the security mitigations on the Xeon. Search for the tool Inspectre for Spectre/Meltdown and the Microsoft bulletin for disabling the L1Foreshadow/MDS mitigations. Of course, the performance gain comes at a security loss.
Yeah I wouldn't recommend X58 nowadays unless you find the board cheap, I paid £75 for my rampage 3 gene with an X5660, 12gb ram and a cpu cooler so I'd say i've done pretty well there, threw another 3x4gb at it that I had spare and at the time an r9 fury, overclocked the cpu to 4.6GHz and it was super solid, I've since moved my gpu up to a vega 56 for cheap and I score 17.4k in firestrike with that, if you can get it cheap then by all means go for it, but don't pay over the odds
I'm still rocking a W3690 in an HP z400 w/24gb ddr3, oc'd using Intel XTU with a 1060 6gb. Paid like $100 dollars for the rig and $299 for the 1060 like three years ago. No need to upgrade for gaming. Can stream at 1080p 60fps. These things are beasts.
I was waiting for this video. You can get a complete system of X58 for less than $150 just add the GPU and you have still an excellent machine to play everything. Its true the X58 starts to show its age but i can see this platform can do excellent work for five more years or more. X58 Rocking !!!
I'm still using a x58 ftw3 with an Intel i7-980. Works amazingly still. Haven't run into any problems up to this point. Also have a backup x58 for the hell of it
I have had a couple x58 systems, and spent a lot of time tweaking them. In general, the platform performs best with memory around 1900mhz. Running faster memory requires either lower the mem to uncore ratio, or ramping the QPI/VTT voltage excessively which will damage the memory controller rapidly. Running mem to uncore ratio below 2x has a considerable loss in performance which equates to how R3000 has a similar loss in performance when running uclk and fclk asynchronously. While I dont expect it to be a game changer, I feel that the x58 might not have shown its best card. I have run up to 2200mhz on my best x5675 for some short term bench runs 2:1 uncore, but my typical configuration was around 1870ish for the memory with the 2x mem +1 multipler. This allowed me to run 4.8ghz single core turbo, and 4.6gh multi core with offset voltage. By far was the fastest configuration for the setup, but was not an easy overclock and took a lot of testing to get there. Thanks for showing how these 6 cores line up. Its time for me to let my last x58 go. I still have my x79, but I need to make room in the case for AMD :)
I want to comment to say that Brian/Tech Yes City is very cool, informative, knowledgeable and entertaining. To go into why I am posting and details would be a very long comment, so I'll TRY (haha!) to keep it short: basically, a few months ago my friend gave me a rig that he had "lying around", and it contained the following: DX58so (lga1366) motherboard, i7920 cpu, 8 gb DDR3 Ram, msi 970 twin frozer gpu, stock intel cooler, 2 640 GB HHD's...but ah, it came with a Cosair CX750m PSU! NICE! SOO... a flame had been lit under my arse to see what this was all about, and how I could upgrade the platform to the best I could, and before I give the specs of where I am now, 3 months later, I just want to give a big shout-out, hat-tip to Tech Yes City, Linus Tech Tips, Gamers Nexus, The Obsoletist , Bit Wit, Jaz2cents, etc. for the very real knowledge, fun, inspiration. Now, as of this post my rig: Xeon w3690 6 core, 12 threads cpu 3.47Ghz..MUST FLASH MOST CURRENT BIOS (overclocked to 4.2Ghz, can and will definitely go higher,), GTX 1060 sc 6gb (overclocked to 1835 mhz!), 16gb DDR3 Ram (XMP profile of 1600mHz is not stable, so at around 1500 mhz), MSI Optix G24C 24" curved 144Hz monitor, Silverstone PM01 RGB case with additional 2 be-quiet 140mm fans (just got this, so thermal results will be soon ..6 internal 140mm fans!) Everything is on air (no water-cooler, using a cooler master g100m rgb cooler with fan set to max speed, max temp at 4Ghz is like 57c to 60c..but this is the "old" case with 1 exhaust fan and the side cover taken off, and has not been transferred yet to the new SIlverstone case with all of the fans!). ANYWAY, my point is, is that we x58 folks are having fun and enthusiastic with our platforms...personally, I am really enjoying my rig and specs even though is may not be the most current. But in terms of price and performance I couldn't be happier. And your videos on such subject, I want to say again, have and are an inspiration...and will continue to watch! I will say that, it is ironic how the Dx58so is still fetching high prices..as of this post, someone is selling it with an i7 970 on ebay for $170 usd! That's all for now, could go on! THANK YOU!
I am still on x79, this was my first build and I put a i7 3820 in it (what was I thinking) since then it has been upgraded to 4960x when prices dropped after Ryzen came out for $200. I have a 1080ti and play at 1440p. I am tempted with Ryzen 2 but I love to upgrade over time and will wait until Ryzen 3 comes out. 4960x still does everything I need for now
For a 60hz gamer, with less than a 2080ti, this CPU is still doing fine. I'm sure there's the occasional 1% and .1% low drops below 60, but very impressive for it's price and age. I would happily run it on my LAN. Anyone still running these should be proud. I completely agree with what you're saying about having the experience on the older stuff. I started overclocking, back when I had to crack open my Slot Athlon CPU, and de-solder and solder small surface mount resistors, that were just barely larger than a poppy seed. Possibly about the same size. I got a 25% OC out of it, and that was 200% the price for that speed retail. Good times.
I am super proud indeed ;) best 10 years in PC gaming for me...x58 really payed off for early adopters like me. ;) still gonna wait to upgrade....not yet not just yet ;)
I have about 7 x58 systems coming my way. All pretty cheap with tons of ram and good psu. I own an old x58 but never did any overclocking on it. Will be fun times ahead.
I've been using X58 since 2013 and I'm going to use it for at least one more year. But I definitely need a better graphics card as my current one is a huge bottleneck. I have a Xeon X5670 @ 4.4GHz, 24GB Corsair XMS3 1600MHz, Asus P6X58D-E motherboard, GTX 960 Turbo OC.
Think the xms 3 was one of the best RAM Kits ever. Epsacialy the 2000 MHZ which can be overclocked to 2600 with one clock faster in one Timing ( with Auto settings) than the Dominator.
What's amusing about those gaming fps results is that if games back when X58 was new had been showing performance that high with GPUs/games of the day, people would have been absolutely mindblown, there would have been fainting in the streets. :D It's funny how we've all become so used to crazy high frame rates these days that now we look at X doing 100fps and Y doing 130fps and think ugh, X sucks. :) Check out this original review of the i7 920, and note they're testing at lower resolutions to emphasise CPU differences (just as many sites still do today): www.anandtech.com/show/2658/19 Compare to normal GPU reviews of that era, eg. the GTX 280 and AMD 4870, "normal" fps rates are nowhere near what people expect today, and back then nobody cared about stuttering or minimums that much (1%/.1% lows didn't yet exist as a metric): www.anandtech.com/show/2549/11 www.anandtech.com/show/2556/13 The other point worth noting from back then is how well CF/SLI behaved, especially SLI (in some cases almost perfectly linear scaling). I had 2x 8800GT, it was awesome for Crysis, Stalker and Oblivion. It's a very different GPU landscape today, SLI/CF are dead but single GPU performance is very strong. In that sense, it's impressive that old X58 tech can hold up as well as it does for gaming. A pity that some newer games require certain features not present in the old CPUs, but such changes are inevitable in the long run. Certainly I think if one had told Shimpi back in 2008 that a GPU from 2018 on a mbd from 2008 with a now cheap X58 XEON would for gaming in some cases be only 20% slower than 2019 CPU tech he would have been utterly astonished. One could argue of course that mainstream CPU/mbd X58 hw from 2008 (even oc'd) would fair nowhere near as well compared to modern tech, eg. what back then would have been well thought of such as the i7 950, but that isn't the point of the video, ie. it's the fact that the X58 XEONs are now so cheap which is interesting (even a year ago I bought two X5690s for a decent sum). Still, since good X58 mbds are too expensive unless one can strike it lucky, as many would rightly say it makes more sense for this sort of budget realm to look at X79. Otoh, messing about with X58 and other old arches like P55 is certainly fun, the oc gains back then were significant and it was a greater challenge than SB (which made oc'ing ridiculously easy). I think this may be why X58 and P55 have become so valued, unlike today's tech they're genuinely interesting to work with. Come the SB era, oc'ing became boring; ASUS M4E, 2700K, within 5 mins one can have it at 5GHz stable. X79 is a bit more involved, but the loss of bclk oc'ing meant much of the intrigue was gone. One thing I'd forgotten about X58 though was in some cases how strongly Core2Quad still held up. Nehalem didn't shine until the clocks rose with the i7 950 and beyond. Crysis for example showed a perfect mixing of the two arches at launch: images.anandtech.com/graphs/nehalemfinal_110208224358/17780.png
@@divoulos5758 Odd reply, but ok; I did quickly switch to 9800 GT 1GB SLI, then GTX 460 SLI (EVGA FTW, faster than a 580), then through various other SLI configs (560, 560 Ti, 580 1.5GB, 580 3GB), until settling back to a single 980, and now a single 1080 Ti. My GPU collection is fairly large: www.sgidepot.co.uk/misc/gpushelves16.jpg I hold most of the 3DMark records for P55 btw; I went a bit mad back then with benchmarking (I have four 8800 GTs, four 9800 GTs, two 8800 GTXs, three GTX 280s, far too manyGTX 460s and GTX 580s, etc.) I broke my own 3DMark11/P P55 record again yesterday though just for giggles and intend shoving it through the roof by the end of the week where with luck none shall come close in the future. :D www.sgidepot.co.uk/sgi.html#PC
@@mapesdhs597 i only have the 9800 in my fathers pc a nvidia viper 5 (1998 gpu) and a 1650s rog strix in my system as and 8gb ram z390 gigabyte and 9100f. And as i see those xeons are too good for their time because i have a core 2 quad qx6850 (2007s best pick) and it's 2-3 times worse than x58 xeons and also needs a turbine like cooler But as the architectures evolve and reaching the 1nm the silicon molecule hits the limit of it's semi-conductor ability and the cpus will be only based on good architecture. This maybe is an explanation for intel 14nm+ for 6 years. Amd 14nm< intel 14nm Amd 12nm< intel 14nm Amd 7nm< intel 14nm(amd is slightly more effective in some cases)
Could you please use cinebench r15 for you benchmarks. It has been around for a long time and everybody knows what the scores means. I could tell you from my head what an 2500k or 4690k or 7700k, or een amd phenom / fx would score.
I sold my x58 Sabertooth with i7 960 adn 8gb DDR3 in it for 200€ few months back. The buyer only wanted the board, but I wanted to sell it all at once, and he still agreed even with price increase that this incured. These boards are indeed still in some demand.
When I get home I'm going to test my recently put together dual xeon setup with Cyberpunk and other titles from 2019 with my 3070 to see if its up to snuff to replace my main rig until I can do some tweaks, hardware changes and new casing.
It would bottleneck the 2019 cpus to the point they're equal to the xeon. But even with an rx 580 the new cpus would be better because they have more consistent 1% and 0.1%
Appreciate the replies guys. This has been bothering me lately cause if I did upgrade my x58 platform, to pair with my RX 580 and 1080p 75hz monitor would I see any real improvement?? ...I'm wondering if I had 500 bucks would it be better to upgrade my GPU and monitor first?
Ian Cutress did an article on Zen 2 cores, how not every core can max turbo to the same speed. An all core overclock isn't the best way to get the most out of Zen 2. Maybe that's why you could only get 4.125 ghz all core OC, as that would have been the fastest boost speed of the slowest core.
Nice vid, I have an old hp z400 workstation I upgraded over time here and there, thinking about throwing in a 6 pin pci power connector 4gb rx 570 in it, if nothing else would make a pretty stout backup pc, got a xeon x5675 6c/12t in it now...can't OC on the hp board though, the turbo boost to ~3.4ghz from base 3ghz will have to do. Years ago when my main pc went down and the low clocked 2.66-2.93ghz i7 920 factory xeon equivalent was still installed, it gamed and multitasked fine when needed. My main pc these days is a ryzen 1700 with 8gb rx 480, it certainly suffices on 1080p.
I know the whole point of cpu benchmarks is to highlight a worst case scenario where you are CPU bound, but that doesn't fully correlate to real world loads. I'm not saying this to disparage this testing. I love this testing. I'm just stating that with a GTX 1080 Ti, you'd probably be gaming at 1440p or 4k. And in those cases, these gaps wouldn't be nearly as wide. I run a GTX 1080 and try to target 4k60 with my xeon w3680 at 4.25GHz. I'm pretty sure I'm 99% GPU bound and a platform upgrade wouldn't be a giant game changer.
I love my Z800 with dual x5670's. 48 gigs ECC for dirt cheap! The whole rig with a 120 gig SSD boot, two 2 tb drives, dual 1080p monitors, has me sitting at just under $300. Looking to get decent GTX 970 for it next.
At the end of the day it's very affordable if you are going to be playing Esport games and the sheer enjoyment of working with this technology is great.. I am building my wife a new computer for Xmas this year and whilst she still loves her current computer its getting time to upgrade and I get the benefit of her old system which is the sabertooth x79 mobo which is running a i7 that has never been overclocked since I purchased it new about 8-10 years ago lol.. could make a nice system out of it..
I'm still using my X58 watching this vid... i works perfectly for me... running W3690 4.5Ghz for 4 years ( after upgrade from i7 950 ) the only thing new is CASE, PSU, SSD and GTX 1070 Ti and my friends laughed at me using old tech...
im running a x5670@4.4 with a gtx 1070ti and its still a great gaming experience, though i'am planning on getting a b450 tomahawk max + ryzen 5 3600 for my birthday in a few weeks and passing the good old x58 down to the kids so it wont go to waste!
Which RAM settings (clock frequency, CL and secondary timings) did you use? The minima for the 3600 seem rather low for CS:Go. Linus Tech Tips (Anthony) has shown that the minima FPS are strongly influenced by the clock frequency and timings of RAM, tight timings help a lot. On a different topic, breakdancing at home is a good way to stay fit when you can't hit the gym, well done.
@@gaiustrollius9920 i worry too but i have a little hope that the epycs will get as cheap in the future like the xeons and a threadripper mobo can use one !
z400 board from ebay $30, converter for PSU $15, x5670 on ebay $15. 12gb ddr3 $35. 105$ for the complete motherboard, processor, ram combo. A simple $10 amazon 1366 cooler and it's the solid makings of a budget build. I've repeatedly made z400 motherboard builds and flipped them with x5650-x5670's.
I like this video because it actually shows A) how little progress there's been (except power use, power use is so much lower) and B) how powerful AMD's six core is for the money. I'm sure someone at Intel marketing has nightmares about the 3600/x CPU's . I really like how cheap these old Xeons are though , that's great value .
Just wanted to say thank you. My son had been using an old FM2 socket AMD, and was really suffering when he tried to game. I don't have the money to give him a new Ryzen rig, let alone ANYTHING i series intel based. But after watching your videos, I got an x5650 for 10 bucks, a board for 75, and 8 gigs of ram free from some old computer rigs at work. I even splurged and got him a refurbished 1060 GTX (the most expensive part of the build). He's sporting a rig that now plays all his games wonderfully, and didn't break the bank. I got the rig up to 4ghz on air, mem at 1600. And best of all, its a rig that will last at least a few years, if not push a decade. Thank you very much
the xeons are really cheap and the ram is basically free.
i found a deal for 300 euros with two x5690s and 128 gigs of ram XD
That’s great! Keep in mind to stay on that build and wait until it is done, then buy a ddr4/gtx 1600 series/ and build. :)
@@AIC_onyt Man I have a weakness against 2 progressor server builds :D Such a nice pc you got.
@@AIC_onyt You need like a 1000w PSU. That pc may have been cheap, but the power bill will not :O
What a nice dad 👌👌
Not gonna lie, I see a X58 MOBO, I hit the like button
I still game on a p55 chip set board.. sure it's the best p55 board ever made (Asus ROG Maximus III Extreme) and the best i7 (875k) that I could have in it but it's starting to age really badly now. But it still games and streams it's a solid computer for most games still.
Thank you for the comparison, this is extremely helpful to me, I am about to upgrade my X58 - x5670 to a Ryzen 3700X . I bought my X58 system when it was the latest thing (over 10 years ago) all I have done since then is upgrade the graphics card to a RTX 2070 and I changed the original i920 to the x5670 a couple of years ago. Best value system I have ever owned!
Same here bro...X58 is literally the best deal of the decade. And I don't mean just now...even when new it was a huge jump ahead with no added cost compared to its predecessor. The good old days....with DDR3 triple channel I am skipping DDR4 altogether. I will upgrade when DDR5 comes with zen3 or something like that. Especially in 4k gaming the CPU is not that important.
@@darkauscus "4k gaming the CPU is not that important" F*ing console peasant troll.
@@Ryuuken24 In 4k gaming you are ALWAYS GPU constrained. The CPU matters little
@@robinsuj why game at 4k 60fps when you can game at 1440p or 1080p with way higher fps.
If you plan on selling I am. Very interested reply to me here
I remember that people laughed at you in 2009 for using 11 year old hardware. If you were using 11 year old hardware in 2009, that meant you were using a Pentium II 300-450Mhz SINGLE core CPU or an AMD K6-II clocked at up to 550Mhz, the fastest gaming CPU of 1998, as opposed to the recently released Core i7 and Core 2 Quad CPUs.
Yeah. Unbelievable.
Hes beyond delusional as hell
I'm still rocking with my BSEL modded Intel Pentium E2160, vmodded ATI HD4670 and 19'' 1280x1024 monitor. I can play AAA games like The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion/Skyrim, The Witcher 2, Mass Effect 1/2/3, Dragon Age 1/2/3 and Fallout 3/NV/TTW. Too bad I can't play Fallout 4 or The Witcher 3 because my GPU doesn't support DX11, but I can watch ''Let's play'' videos and it's almost like playing the game. I have my studio tour and gaming setup video on my channel.
@@basshead. is this some kind of peasent joke i am to...
Wait i have an amd a4 3300m with radeon 6480g graphics and 3 gb of ram and by that i am still poor.
Wait technically my Laptop broke and you are richer than me.
Reality dont hurt so much.
Thanks my new pc is coming.
@@basshead. Why do you copy paste this everywhere?
+Timothy Bilotta LOL... sure there was no way to buy AMD.
I bought my X58 rig in 2010. Still Rockin' it thanks to a Xeon I bought this year (and thanks to you) I'm now using my 10 year old rig to edit 4k!
Bryan, thank you for making my Sunday mate. Awesome video as always.
I'm fairly new to your channel, but you really put the "fun" back into PC tinkering and testing. I can tell you genuinely enjoy it. Cheers mate
Hey Brian! You should check out r7 2700E on alibaba or Taobao. The 2.8ghz part does 4.1 all core on my crosshair 6 hero. + 30% after OC.
Shipping will take for ages, except express which negates the cost saving.
Seems too expensive and not worth it.
Is it a engineering sample?
@@springbok4015 Shipping for whatever Xeon you order from AliExpress will take just as long though.
Thatd be fun to check out
I love those platforms X58 & X79. Such beasts of their time, keeping up with the new stuff. It's a testament to how good they were back in the day. I myself put a USD 507 (pricing here in Bulgaria is all over the place) machine based on a Lenovo ThinkStation, now rocking a E3-1270v2, 16 GB DDR3, Sapphire Nitro+ RX580, Kingston 480GB SSD and a Seasonic Focus Gold 650W PSU. Works like a charm and plays the games I want.
Кой модел ThinkStation ползвате, погледнах няколко сайта за машини втора ръка, но са кът? Аз търсих ThinkCentre машините, но не побират голяма видеокарта.
@@НиколаГеоргиев-ш2б - ThinkStation E31 но махнах долната скоба за хард. Имайте предвид, че дъната на Леново са с 14-pin букса за захранването и трябва преходник към стандартното ATX с 24-pin. За голямата Sapphire RX580 махнах долната скоба за хард диска и се събра без проблем. С всички ъпгрейди (SSD, захранване, видеокарта, преходник захранвене, процесор и охладител) ми се върза точно 888.63 лева. Та за тези пари мисля, че е страхотно съотношение цена-производителност.
M favourite mobo ist the Intel DZ87 KLT-75K. But 16 lanes and 4770 K, IT Just have 4 native Cores.
Loved the video! I've got two X5670s still buggering on and they're delightful to tinker with. I definitely use my oc'd 1700 instead when gaming but the x58 xeons are still great and even at stock provide a decent gaming/work experience.
Good probably for Boinc.
Yess i was waiting for this all day cheers mate
Ive only watched the first 20 seconds but Brian, It's not always about how much you get things for but rather, how much they're worth. If i get a X58 board for $20 but it's worth $150 you can be damn sure i'm going to re-sell sell it for $150! Everyones mind work differently but i feel like money is lost if i don't capitalize on the resale in that situation. I picked up a cheap Ryzen 1600 for $100 used and a B350 for $65 used so i could resell it for a tiny bit more but i feel good keeping it knowing it won't depreciate and insane amount of the next year or so.
where to find x58 mobo for 20-30$?
Invest in the stock market my guy 🤣
That is bloody great performance from the old dog!
Upgraded from a x5670 @4.4ghz to a ryzen 5 3600 and im very pleased with the ryzen so far, higher fps and smoother frames in games and have the option to move up to an 8 or 12 down the road when the 4000 series comes out. Keeping the x58 as a gaming/schoolwork pc for the kids so its still got a few more years of use ahead.
Oh man, this takes me back a couple years to your overwatch PC build where you convinced me to pick up an x58 motherboard and an x5660. These x58 xeons were always some good fun to use and overclock, but all good things must come to an end.
Thanks to your videos..... I rebuilt my desktop/server back early 2016 with a Xeon E5-2658 V3 with 32GB DDR4 on the 2011-v3 platform. At the time.... I planned and researched for 3 months to find the right Xeon, motherboard and RAM for my needs (and to find good sales). The final price tag was about $500 (months before the DDR4 prices went nuts). I was running a 6-core AMD 1100T (no threading) and I wanted high-end I7 performance at AMD prices (Ryzen was no-where on the horizon at that time). I planned to be able to upgrade to a faster Xeon as prices allowed. But it seams that after 3 years.... Ryzen's 3000 Series pricing and performance is going to beat the hell out of any faster used Xeon I can get my hands on PERIOD. Even a 22-Core/44-Threaded used Xeon is not going to beat a Ryzen 7 3900x in price or performance. So... My next upgrade will be a Ryzen 7 3900x and new motherboard unless a Xeon just drops into my lap for a laughably cheap price. In any case, I will be waiting, planning and researching for a while. I made a promise to my self a long time ago to never pay more than $200 for a CPU. I've kept every system I have built in the past 2 decades in or around $500.
Thanks Bryan.
Long live X58 architecture!!
Cheers, Mon from Brisbane.
X58 is a chipset, the architecture is Westmere
The architecture of the X58 motherboard includes the chipset.
Let's not split hairs.
I love x58 but wouldn't recommend anyone goes out and buys a used mobo these days.
why?
@@tadejdanev5030 most are damged, and not worth if you dont get it for a realllyyyy cheap price.
If you are going to pay $130 you might just put more and get something newer.
@@ramboi9498 for 130$ i wouldn't even consider it :) x58 mobo max 40$
@@tadejdanev5030 Just pointing it out 😁
@@tadejdanev5030 they just are going to be at the end of their lifespan
That was some X58 goodnes Bryan! :)
Delighted to see another X58 video. I've just finished a massive rebuild on a dual X5690 (A video will appear eventually). It would eat your X5660 productivity scores with 12 cores and 24 threads but it's not over-clockable, just ~3.5 GHz.
One of the GPUs is though, a Palit Super Jetstream GTX 980 Ti (3 slot beast). I've squeezed an extra 330 MHz on the memory and 75MHz on the core out of it without stability issues as such. I am having a weird hard reset issue though whenever I load up either GPU suddenly. Could be some sort of OCP issue on the board (Dell Precision T7500) or PSU (1100W). Its odd as measured at the wall it has never topped 500W and normally sits at about 320W. Maybe something is on the way to failing. I wondered if you'd ever seen a similar issue with all your X58 experience?
Ran my Dell XPS 420 with BSEL OC on a Q6600 (3Ghz) for ELEVEN YEARS!!!! I couldn't afford to decommission it any earlier because the damn thing cost me nearly $3000 new. Upgraded in late 2018 to an X79/E5-1660, OC to 4.3 Ghz, and have been quite pleasantly surprised at the value/performance. I think I spent about $520 on the complete system, to include a new Coolermaster RGB blinged case with tempered glass side, new PS, 16GB EEC RAM, and used motherboard and GTX980.
Love this channel.
It's so cool that you are planning to do an LGA2011 comparison with literally the exact same hardware I am about to build with! To be specific, that's my Asus Rampage IV Extreme and the Xeon E5-1680 V2 that I finally got around to buying when there were only two left for $200 on eBay! I'm hoping this E5-1680 V2 will be able to reach similar clocks as my previous CPU, an E5-1650 (V1/Sandy-E), which were 4.7GHz with HT on and 5.0GHz with HT off (gaming OC profile) on a Corsair H100i (2x120mm). These chips do clock like gangbusters, and have only shown temperature limitations up to 5GHz in my limited experience with the Rampage IV.
LGA2011 processors do clearly have improved OCing over LGA1366, which even with pretty good cooling and unlocked CPUs like the W3690 seem to top out around 4.5GHz with HT on and 4.7GHz with HT off.
So I feel like I should ditch one of my 1366 rigs in order to work the 2011 rig into the mix, but I love both of my 1366 mobos! The Gigabyte GA-X58A-OC and the Gigabyte G1 Guerrilla are both just super-badass boards for that platform, and replete with both nostalgia and actually good performance. I hate to set either aside inactive, so I should probably sell one. But I can't choose which to ditch.
Any thoughts, anyone?
1680v2 won’t overclock as well as the 1650v2 in my experience. You will get great multi core performance; I get an r15 score of around 1500 at 4.2ghz. But at 4.6 the multi core score plummets.
@@tubularmonkeymaniac interesting. Is this temperature-related at all? Have you by any chance experimented with HT off? I always end up setting a gaming profile with HT turned off because it seems to consistently net me 200-300 extra MHz. Anyway, thanks for your insight!
@@tubularmonkeymaniac Wait, for real a 1680v2 at 4.2 hit 1500 cb ? god, 5960x at this clock speed is 1600...
Might have lost the silicon lottery, but def not temperature related, sits below 40c at 4.6. Mind you this is me OCing for a usable system with speedstep etc enabled. Maybe if you were just going for cinebench scores you could get higher.
@@Thefuror38500 TBF that's a $600+ CPU used. Lots of other variables, I might have lost silicon lottery, my voltage settings could be improved. But I found the 1650 v2 a lot easier to OC.
I literally ran a X58 based system for almost 8 years. One of the best platforms ever!!! Ran it with an i7 920 OC'd to 4GHz for years, then popped in a Xeon X5650 and OC'd it to 4GHz for at least a couple years too. I only switched to a Ryzen 2600 when I couldn't hold the 4GHz OC anymore.
Im so proud of my x5675 😢 still rocking in 2019
That actually is very cool. I have a pair of LGA1366 rigs I keep for the sake of collecting cool hardware, and I semi-splurged for a Xeon W3690 and a Xeon W3680 (for the unlocked multipliers). But you have more actual "overclocker cred" with your X5675, which I know from personal experience can reach the same exact top speeds as anything else on the platform without having an unlocked multiplier as long as you know what you're doing.
My x5675 was doing the business until my msi board bit the dust. Have an asrock board now but it won't run a 6 core 😪 4 core Xeon, not as much fun.
@@edharding9363 it might work if you get the w36xx Xeon instead of the x56xx
@@2102Chris that's a great point. To the BIOS, the workstation CPUs are basically indistinguishable from the desktop CPUs, but some BIOSes could certainly have issues with the dual-socket server CPUs. As cheap the workstation chips are, it's certainly worth a shot!
@@malicious1111 can you share your voltages? Trying to get past 4.0 ghz on my x5675 but can't seem to quite get it.
I am still loving the X58 thx for doing this kind of videos, great job as always.
Still using my x5650 oc 4.3 in nearly 2021. It is alot of fun to tinker with!
The king has uploaded again
This was great! I love tinkering with the x58 stuff and it’s obvious that a lot of people love it with the current prices holding strong. I was really wanting to see a comparison just like this! Yours are the only Tech videos on TH-cam that I like to watch more than once.
I just upgraded my x58 xeon system for ryzen 7. I built it new with a i7920 a decade ago.and ran it ocd to 4.0 ghz. 2 years ago i swapped it for a xeon.The x58 is now my sons. For him its brand new and hes thrilled.
Great video to release on my birthday Brian, thanks man 👍
Excellent review... I was rocking a 980x for the longest time, in an Alienware Auroroa R1 that was given to me with a 920 in it. That kept up with a 2070 no problem, and only recently got upgraded due to a little project I simply wanted to do. Which was to convert that Aurora R1 into an R4 via slight case mods to accommodate the slightly different mobo, and mostly to accommodate the different cpu back-plate for the aio. Beyond that, it all just worked... and now I am running the new and shiny .. . .. i7 3930K, which will soon be a 4930K.... either way, this clears up some SATA 3 issues, brings better USB 3 functionality... cleans up ram compatibility and makes using DDR3 2400MHZ and overclocking it easier... so on and so forth. That said, the 980x was already keeping up with a 7700K and then some @ around 4.4Ghz. With the 3930K going a tad further, and the 4930K likely making things a bit easier to come. But speed wise.... x58 is hardly any slower than Sandy, Ivy, Broad, Has.... they can all run hand in hand while crunching numbers.... and can all embarrass the absolute hell out of the new and expensive shit. Depreciation is very real, and it pays dividends to be on the smart side of it.
12:55 - what? no comments about the breakdancing?
I am watching this on a X58 Asus sabretooth with xeon x5675, 24gb ram, rx580 and a 500gb SSD. Runs like an old beast. :) My son games on this rig and it runs 4k 60hz with no problems at all. Great old tech and Brian it was given some tech yes style clean loving. Keep up the great work.
Gotta get the 8700K up in there. Not evryone has a Micro Center to go to but if you find yourself at one, they have 8700K's for $250 with a mobo combo and RX 5700 for $300. That's a awesome set up for a fairly good price.
Also the 9700K is $270 and the 9900K is $420, both get $30 off when buying a motherboard combo. Things are looking good over here. The ram prices are at a all time low. I bought almost a Terabyte of ram for future builds, and the slowest kit is 3200MHz CL16 that can clock to 4GHz CL 17 on the right mobo.
I am still rocking an x58 system as one of my secondary (guest) gaming boxes. It still runs its original i7940, but I will probably pick up a 6 core for it. It also rocks a 660ti graphics board. So it is a bit behind but it is still capable of playing most games really really well. Overclocking these machines is a real work of art. So many knobs to turn, and getting them to peak performance was very satisfying. You had to work for it.
Still an awesome and affordable gaming platform. Running a x5670 on a Asus P6T mobo.
X5670 on Asus sabertooth x58 here... and I still like it.
Been following this channel for a while now and as we regular followers know, this guy loves his X58s 🙂. I am also a value for money kind of person, so what I love about his reviews - compared to some of his peers some of whom have millions more subs - is the thoroughness of his reviews. Granted he gives the benchmarks (all of them do) but also clearly states facts that others tend to leave out more often than not - such as power draw. So while its easy to prove to his subscribers how much value they can get by saving money upfront with an X58, he also clearly provides power draw comparison data which folks can use to run their own calculations based on power cost in their own areas to judge whether and how long the upfront savings might last. In short, even though he clearly loves X58s, his reviews provide a much more rounded and unbiased analysis and approach that his viewers can follow to decide for themselves whether X58 makes sense for them or not. Well done, mate! Keep up the good work 👍
Good stuff man. I think ima get the ryzen upgrade and sell my X58 beauty :) would almost pay for it haha
That's what I did
Same, but I don't want to part with mine lol
@insaane this the e5 2620 or 30 v2 work on x58
@@southofthering no it doesnt it's x79
Go B-Boy!!!!!!!!! Nice to see you still could move. I'd probably break myself trying that today.
0:35 the way you say "These XEONS are 6 core 12 Threads" with those facial expressions is just amazing.
Really nice channel. I am not a Gamer but an IT Pro and have a X58 System since 10Years now and use it primary for Virtualization on Hyper-V. I have a MSI X58Pro Board with 48GB Ram, GTX970, 2 Samsung 850Ssd, 1 HDD and currently a I920 CPU. I will add also an additional M2 SSD via a PCIe Adapter now. You will call me an idiot because I have since almost 2 years a X5675 CPU here but never had time to build it in and OC it. But hopefully in the next Weekends... I really like the X58 platform but as you said it’s becoming now old. For me the topic of fast storage is more important and the newer chipset with the support for a lot of M2 SSDs and more PCI lanes, USB3.1 etc. I guess this will be the only reason why to upgrade for me. But I will keep the current system for a year or so with X5675.
Got my friend a Asus p6t SE and an i7 960. Paired it with a x5660 and oc'd it to around 4.3 Ghz. It still is shocking we got the whole thing done for 700 Turkish Liras or around 120 dollars. It was in a huge server case with 500 fps psu so it saved us from buying a new one. The only thing that is missing now is a rx 580 8gb or something like that.
Dear Brian, you should try Korean sites such as Gmarket. The x58 boards there are pretty cheap. Also if you can, try to visit South Korea and do some deals here; you'll be surprised on what you might find.
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Thanks for the comparison Bryan. I know your test methodology was for a CPU comparison but I would've been interested to see how they compare at a more realistic resolution someone would be using if they had a 2080 Ti like 4K or 1440 UW. I'm still running my X5680 with a 1080Ti at 3440x1440 but I'm not sure a GPU upgrade will be worth it since I feel like I've pretty much reached the limit with the 1080 Ti. Would've loved to see one or two benches with the 2080 Ti to see how much the old Xeon's are holding it back, if it's not too late please crank one out. Thanks for all your hard work and keep these old comparisons coming!
X58 is one of the few platforms I believe that have aged really well. The triple channel memory really helped to give it some longevity. That is if you don't mind that power consumption lol.
My man! I'm 2 steps away replacing my x58 by Zen2. A bit dissapointed of the gap but we are speaking of THE best platform we have had and never will see again 😢
I'm going Ryzen because I'm moving to ITX and I want better power efficiency. Using an X5660 and an R9 390 just kicks out so much heat.
I know it's not a big jump, but it's time....
I'm still on x79 with a core i7 3930k @ 4.4ghz. Still giving me at least 60fps in every game I play, (using a 60hz screen). Got the motherboard CPU and ram for a bargain price (£100). Power consumption is fairly high compared to the latest Ryzen CPU's, but it still good enough for me for the time being.
Amazing video as always!!!
Still on X58 myself too. Dual 6C - 96Gb RAM - nvme PCI boot SSD - Usb 3 - Sata3. Oh, and a GTX960. I used to do 3d design as an architect first, but the last years I use the machine for timelapse photography. For a couple of years more I guess it will be OK.
X58 probably one of the best chipsets in recent memory, the fact that 10 years after its release its still somewhat useful!
Hi the interballs X58 king :)
I just purchased a X58 sabretooth board on Ebay lol, it will be teamed with a W5690 and 24 gigs of ram and a 980Ti I love the old girl...…. cant get rid of it and as I am not gaming on it and I use it for the occasional video render, I find it quite hard to part with the old girl and upgrade to more modern stuff all thanks to you the X58 King!
Brian, you are not you when you're hungry. Heck, eat 2 Snickers!
Because you're a madman ;)
I've used an X58 board with an i7-930 for almost 10 years. Got a relatively cheap RTX 2070 recently and could tell a bit of a bottleneck. So I finally upgraded and got a an Asus Prime X370 Pro for cheap, 16 gigs of G.Skill 3200 CL14 for very cheap, a new Ryzen 5 3600 and second hand nvme. Amazing price/performance and I especially like the upgrade to Sata 3 and being able to boot from nvme now. But I will miss the overclockability of X58!
12:54 Tech YES Bust a' Move! The Xeon Leader and King of Overclocking showing us how to groove and buy too! XD
Good ole' x58!
So my introductory into the x58 realm was a whopping $10. Met up with a nice gent with a 4th gen intel and MSi gaming board. This is what I was building for the wife as another rig. Told him I really didnt even want the other board due to it being a first gen i7. Of course I got it dirt cheap as he was thinking the same. So with CPU upgrade (x5675), old server memory I got for free (6x2gb ECC), and mobo Im in it for under $50. The exact scenario that makes this platform so amazing.
I'd like to see a X58 vs R5 3600 comparison with heavy Adobe Lightroom editing. I have a W3690 which I think is basically the same as the one in this video. 24gb ram and GTX 970. Adobe Lightroom lags like hell with it. Would you recommend upgrading to Ryzen for things that require more workstation power?
I have the same processor but unfortunately i don't have an overclocking motherboard
My system dell t3500 but I am happy with my PC I bought it really cheap.... I paired it with rx 470😁
Enjoying Gaming @1080P
Sorry for bad English:)
I have T3500, I also got a 45$ unlocked W3680 from aliexpress. I use TS software to OC it to 4.1 GHz. I use a PCIE USB3 adapter and a 4 port USB3 Hub front Panel that fits in front floppy vent. I use a PCIE adapter to boot Windows from M.2 NVME drive using DUET-RFIND. T3500 is fun.
Rockin x58 still. Was my first build way back when the 920 was new. A $26 used xeon, a ram and gpu upgrade every once in a long while, and I'm STILL current useable/practical-horsepower-wise. Only until very recently have I decided it needed a boost.
3.2ghz 6 core xeon
12gb ddr3 1600 (almost time for more)
Gtx1080 (upgraded from 750ti 3 days ago)
Bleeding edge these days doesn't make much sense/net enough gains to justify costs (benchmarks does not necessarily = experienced gains). Also learned my lesson buying a gtx295 when it was the beastestest gpu. Much better/economical to stay behind the edge of the tech blade and buy used/"old"..
Great video! I think it would be interesting to see a comparison between the Ryzen 5 3600 and the i7 5820k. In my country you can find some for around 200$ on the used market. The X99 motherboards can also be had for around 100$ if you go deal hunting.
I had an X58 and an i7 980X. It was awesome. It only gained about 7% on overclock though. The cpu was originally 1000 us dollars and the motherboard was about 250 us dollars.
Very intrigued by this video. Thanks
That's strange. A x58 cpu should be possible to at least increase it's speed by 30%.
The biggest difference in added perfrormance i had was a overclocked i7 920.
I managed to overclock it from 2.6Ghz to 4.6Ghz.
That's over a whopping 56% overclock!
@@opoxious1592 yes. I could over lock its number to get a higher clock speed but it not increase actual performance by much. Like 5 - 10 % honestly
It was a waste of time
@@Ballistichydrant That's not worth the time or effort indeed.
I'll wait for Ryzen 4000 /whatever Intel has to offer in late 2020 to (maybe) finally update my w3520
David Mateos I am going to wait until 2021 or 2022 to upgrade my Ryzen 2600. Hopefully Zen 5 is still ahead of Intel at that point
Likewise. I'm waiting for 2nd gen RTX and will stay with Intel and whatever they have going in 2020, which is when I suspect NVIDIA will be dropping the next gen cards. Im clapping AMD on to put the pressure on Intel and Nvidia but im not an AMD platform guy. No amount of marketing or performance increases at this point will change that. The company who gets to the 3D processor first is what is going to sway my platform choice.
👌 great video!!!
By the way, I saw a 10 % boost in average FPS on Company of Heroes 2 with disabling all the security mitigations on the Xeon. Search for the tool Inspectre for Spectre/Meltdown and the Microsoft bulletin for disabling the L1Foreshadow/MDS mitigations. Of course, the performance gain comes at a security loss.
Yeah I wouldn't recommend X58 nowadays unless you find the board cheap, I paid £75 for my rampage 3 gene with an X5660, 12gb ram and a cpu cooler so I'd say i've done pretty well there, threw another 3x4gb at it that I had spare and at the time an r9 fury, overclocked the cpu to 4.6GHz and it was super solid, I've since moved my gpu up to a vega 56 for cheap and I score 17.4k in firestrike with that, if you can get it cheap then by all means go for it, but don't pay over the odds
I'm still rocking a W3690 in an HP z400 w/24gb ddr3, oc'd using Intel XTU with a 1060 6gb. Paid like $100 dollars for the rig and $299 for the 1060 like three years ago. No need to upgrade for gaming. Can stream at 1080p 60fps. These things are beasts.
how much does yr w3690 overclocks ?
I was waiting for this video. You can get a complete system of X58 for less than $150 just add the GPU and you have still an excellent machine to play everything. Its true the X58 starts to show its age but i can see this platform can do excellent work for five more years or more. X58 Rocking !!!
I'm still using a x58 ftw3 with an Intel i7-980. Works amazingly still. Haven't run into any problems up to this point. Also have a backup x58 for the hell of it
Love the vids & my X58. My current build inspired by Tech Yes...! - built in 2018
Xeon X5675 - OC @ 4.5 GHz
Asus P6T X58 (LGA 1366)
12GB Gskill DDR3 1600MHz
EVGA Geforce GTX FTW
1060 6GB
Cryorig H5 cooler
250GB SSD & 3TB HDD
SeaSonic 550W 80+Gold
Cooler Master Master Box 5
I have had a couple x58 systems, and spent a lot of time tweaking them. In general, the platform performs best with memory around 1900mhz. Running faster memory requires either lower the mem to uncore ratio, or ramping the QPI/VTT voltage excessively which will damage the memory controller rapidly. Running mem to uncore ratio below 2x has a considerable loss in performance which equates to how R3000 has a similar loss in performance when running uclk and fclk asynchronously. While I dont expect it to be a game changer, I feel that the x58 might not have shown its best card. I have run up to 2200mhz on my best x5675 for some short term bench runs 2:1 uncore, but my typical configuration was around 1870ish for the memory with the 2x mem +1 multipler. This allowed me to run 4.8ghz single core turbo, and 4.6gh multi core with offset voltage. By far was the fastest configuration for the setup, but was not an easy overclock and took a lot of testing to get there.
Thanks for showing how these 6 cores line up. Its time for me to let my last x58 go. I still have my x79, but I need to make room in the case for AMD :)
I want to comment to say that Brian/Tech Yes City is very cool, informative, knowledgeable and entertaining. To go into why I am posting and details would be a very long comment, so I'll TRY (haha!) to keep it short: basically, a few months ago my friend gave me a rig that he had "lying around", and it contained the following: DX58so (lga1366) motherboard, i7920 cpu, 8 gb DDR3 Ram, msi 970 twin frozer gpu, stock intel cooler, 2 640 GB HHD's...but ah, it came with a Cosair CX750m PSU! NICE! SOO... a flame had been lit under my arse to see what this was all about, and how I could upgrade the platform to the best I could, and before I give the specs of where I am now, 3 months later, I just want to give a big shout-out, hat-tip to Tech Yes City, Linus Tech Tips, Gamers Nexus, The Obsoletist
, Bit Wit, Jaz2cents, etc. for the very real knowledge, fun, inspiration. Now, as of this post my rig: Xeon w3690 6 core, 12 threads cpu 3.47Ghz..MUST FLASH MOST CURRENT BIOS (overclocked to 4.2Ghz, can and will definitely go higher,), GTX 1060 sc 6gb (overclocked to 1835 mhz!), 16gb DDR3 Ram (XMP profile of 1600mHz is not stable, so at around 1500 mhz), MSI Optix G24C 24" curved 144Hz monitor, Silverstone PM01 RGB case with additional 2 be-quiet 140mm fans (just got this, so thermal results will be soon ..6 internal 140mm fans!) Everything is on air (no water-cooler, using a cooler master g100m rgb cooler with fan set to max speed, max temp at 4Ghz is like 57c to 60c..but this is the "old" case with 1 exhaust fan and the side cover taken off, and has not been transferred yet to the new SIlverstone case with all of the fans!). ANYWAY, my point is, is that we x58 folks are having fun and enthusiastic with our platforms...personally, I am really enjoying my rig and specs even though is may not be the most current. But in terms of price and performance I couldn't be happier. And your videos on such subject, I want to say again, have and are an inspiration...and will continue to watch! I will say that, it is ironic how the Dx58so is still fetching high prices..as of this post, someone is selling it with an i7 970 on ebay for $170 usd! That's all for now, could go on! THANK YOU!
Now x79!!! Use the crazy xeon system you used as a daily driver to show that you used the xeon stuff you recommended
I am still on x79, this was my first build and I put a i7 3820 in it (what was I thinking) since then it has been upgraded to 4960x when prices dropped after Ryzen came out for $200. I have a 1080ti and play at 1440p. I am tempted with Ryzen 2 but I love to upgrade over time and will wait until Ryzen 3 comes out. 4960x still does everything I need for now
For a 60hz gamer, with less than a 2080ti, this CPU is still doing fine. I'm sure there's the occasional 1% and .1% low drops below 60, but very impressive for it's price and age. I would happily run it on my LAN. Anyone still running these should be proud. I completely agree with what you're saying about having the experience on the older stuff. I started overclocking, back when I had to crack open my Slot Athlon CPU, and de-solder and solder small surface mount resistors, that were just barely larger than a poppy seed. Possibly about the same size. I got a 25% OC out of it, and that was 200% the price for that speed retail. Good times.
I am super proud indeed ;) best 10 years in PC gaming for me...x58 really payed off for early adopters like me. ;) still gonna wait to upgrade....not yet not just yet ;)
I have about 7 x58 systems coming my way. All pretty cheap with tons of ram and good psu. I own an old x58 but never did any overclocking on it. Will be fun times ahead.
That board looks awesome mate :)
I've been using X58 since 2013 and I'm going to use it for at least one more year. But I definitely need a better graphics card as my current one is a huge bottleneck.
I have a Xeon X5670 @ 4.4GHz, 24GB Corsair XMS3 1600MHz, Asus P6X58D-E motherboard, GTX 960 Turbo OC.
Think the xms 3 was one of the best RAM Kits ever. Epsacialy the 2000 MHZ which can be overclocked to 2600 with one clock faster in one Timing ( with Auto settings) than the Dominator.
What's amusing about those gaming fps results is that if games back when X58 was new had been showing performance that high with GPUs/games of the day, people would have been absolutely mindblown, there would have been fainting in the streets. :D It's funny how we've all become so used to crazy high frame rates these days that now we look at X doing 100fps and Y doing 130fps and think ugh, X sucks. :) Check out this original review of the i7 920, and note they're testing at lower resolutions to emphasise CPU differences (just as many sites still do today):
www.anandtech.com/show/2658/19
Compare to normal GPU reviews of that era, eg. the GTX 280 and AMD 4870, "normal" fps rates are nowhere near what people expect today, and back then nobody cared about stuttering or minimums that much (1%/.1% lows didn't yet exist as a metric):
www.anandtech.com/show/2549/11
www.anandtech.com/show/2556/13
The other point worth noting from back then is how well CF/SLI behaved, especially SLI (in some cases almost perfectly linear scaling). I had 2x 8800GT, it was awesome for Crysis, Stalker and Oblivion.
It's a very different GPU landscape today, SLI/CF are dead but single GPU performance is very strong. In that sense, it's impressive that old X58 tech can hold up as well as it does for gaming. A pity that some newer games require certain features not present in the old CPUs, but such changes are inevitable in the long run. Certainly I think if one had told Shimpi back in 2008 that a GPU from 2018 on a mbd from 2008 with a now cheap X58 XEON would for gaming in some cases be only 20% slower than 2019 CPU tech he would have been utterly astonished.
One could argue of course that mainstream CPU/mbd X58 hw from 2008 (even oc'd) would fair nowhere near as well compared to modern tech, eg. what back then would have been well thought of such as the i7 950, but that isn't the point of the video, ie. it's the fact that the X58 XEONs are now so cheap which is interesting (even a year ago I bought two X5690s for a decent sum). Still, since good X58 mbds are too expensive unless one can strike it lucky, as many would rightly say it makes more sense for this sort of budget realm to look at X79. Otoh, messing about with X58 and other old arches like P55 is certainly fun, the oc gains back then were significant and it was a greater challenge than SB (which made oc'ing ridiculously easy). I think this may be why X58 and P55 have become so valued, unlike today's tech they're genuinely interesting to work with. Come the SB era, oc'ing became boring; ASUS M4E, 2700K, within 5 mins one can have it at 5GHz stable. X79 is a bit more involved, but the loss of bclk oc'ing meant much of the intrigue was gone.
One thing I'd forgotten about X58 though was in some cases how strongly Core2Quad still held up. Nehalem didn't shine until the clocks rose with the i7 950 and beyond. Crysis for example showed a perfect mixing of the two arches at launch:
images.anandtech.com/graphs/nehalemfinal_110208224358/17780.png
U poor i had 9800+gtx 1gb 950mhz
@@divoulos5758 Odd reply, but ok; I did quickly switch to 9800 GT 1GB SLI, then GTX 460 SLI (EVGA FTW, faster than a 580), then through various other SLI configs (560, 560 Ti, 580 1.5GB, 580 3GB), until settling back to a single 980, and now a single 1080 Ti. My GPU collection is fairly large:
www.sgidepot.co.uk/misc/gpushelves16.jpg
I hold most of the 3DMark records for P55 btw; I went a bit mad back then with benchmarking (I have four 8800 GTs, four 9800 GTs, two 8800 GTXs, three GTX 280s, far too manyGTX 460s and GTX 580s, etc.) I broke my own 3DMark11/P P55 record again yesterday though just for giggles and intend shoving it through the roof by the end of the week where with luck none shall come close in the future. :D
www.sgidepot.co.uk/sgi.html#PC
@@mapesdhs597 i only have the 9800 in my fathers pc a nvidia viper 5 (1998 gpu) and a 1650s rog strix in my system as and 8gb ram z390 gigabyte and 9100f. And as i see those xeons are too good for their time because i have a core 2 quad qx6850 (2007s best pick) and it's 2-3 times worse than x58 xeons and also needs a turbine like cooler
But as the architectures evolve and reaching the 1nm the silicon molecule hits the limit of it's semi-conductor ability and the cpus will be only based on good architecture. This maybe is an explanation for intel 14nm+ for 6 years. Amd 14nm< intel 14nm
Amd 12nm< intel 14nm
Amd 7nm< intel 14nm(amd is slightly more effective in some cases)
Could you please use cinebench r15 for you benchmarks. It has been around for a long time and everybody knows what the scores means. I could tell you from my head what an 2500k or 4690k or 7700k, or een amd phenom / fx would score.
I sold my x58 Sabertooth with i7 960 adn 8gb DDR3 in it for 200€ few months back. The buyer only wanted the board, but I wanted to sell it all at once, and he still agreed even with price increase that this incured. These boards are indeed still in some demand.
Could you do a video about your experience with really cheap, off brand Chinese motherboards from sites like AliExpress? Are they worth it?
When I get home I'm going to test my recently put together dual xeon setup with Cyberpunk and other titles from 2019 with my 3070 to see if its up to snuff to replace my main rig until I can do some tweaks, hardware changes and new casing.
What happens if all the gaming benchmarks were tested with an RX 580 instead?
The absolute results would be lower, but the differences would be smaller, except in certain cases where CPU issues dominate (depends on the game).
It would bottleneck the 2019 cpus to the point they're equal to the xeon. But even with an rx 580 the new cpus would be better because they have more consistent 1% and 0.1%
Honestly change the resolution to 1440p and the frames are the same shit....
Appreciate the replies guys. This has been bothering me lately cause if I did upgrade my x58 platform, to pair with my RX 580 and 1080p 75hz monitor would I see any real improvement?? ...I'm wondering if I had 500 bucks would it be better to upgrade my GPU and monitor first?
@@ZuckerbergDaReptilian most likely if you do a good OC on your X58 cpu, it can handle up to a 1070 or 1660ti
thanks for keeping the x58 alive.
Ian Cutress did an article on Zen 2 cores, how not every core can max turbo to the same speed. An all core overclock isn't the best way to get the most out of Zen 2. Maybe that's why you could only get 4.125 ghz all core OC, as that would have been the fastest boost speed of the slowest core.
Rocking an E5-1650 V2 that I found in a recycle bin. Cant wait for the X79 video.
Nice vid, I have an old hp z400 workstation I upgraded over time here and there, thinking about throwing in a 6 pin pci power connector 4gb rx 570 in it, if nothing else would make a pretty stout backup pc, got a xeon x5675 6c/12t in it now...can't OC on the hp board though, the turbo boost to ~3.4ghz from base 3ghz will have to do. Years ago when my main pc went down and the low clocked 2.66-2.93ghz i7 920 factory xeon equivalent was still installed, it gamed and multitasked fine when needed. My main pc these days is a ryzen 1700 with 8gb rx 480, it certainly suffices on 1080p.
I know the whole point of cpu benchmarks is to highlight a worst case scenario where you are CPU bound, but that doesn't fully correlate to real world loads. I'm not saying this to disparage this testing. I love this testing. I'm just stating that with a GTX 1080 Ti, you'd probably be gaming at 1440p or 4k. And in those cases, these gaps wouldn't be nearly as wide. I run a GTX 1080 and try to target 4k60 with my xeon w3680 at 4.25GHz. I'm pretty sure I'm 99% GPU bound and a platform upgrade wouldn't be a giant game changer.
I love my Z800 with dual x5670's. 48 gigs ECC for dirt cheap! The whole rig with a 120 gig SSD boot, two 2 tb drives, dual 1080p monitors, has me sitting at just under $300. Looking to get decent GTX 970 for it next.
At the end of the day it's very affordable if you are going to be playing Esport games and the sheer enjoyment of working with this technology is great.. I am building my wife a new computer for Xmas this year and whilst she still loves her current computer its getting time to upgrade and I get the benefit of her old system which is the sabertooth x79 mobo which is running a i7 that has never been overclocked since I purchased it new about 8-10 years ago lol.. could make a nice system out of it..
I'm still using my X58 watching this vid... i works perfectly for me... running W3690 4.5Ghz for 4 years ( after upgrade from i7 950 ) the only thing new is CASE, PSU, SSD and GTX 1070 Ti and my friends laughed at me using old tech...
im running a x5670@4.4 with a gtx 1070ti and its still a great gaming experience, though i'am planning on getting a b450 tomahawk max + ryzen 5 3600 for my birthday in a few weeks and passing the good old x58 down to the kids so it wont go to waste!
Love these x58 videos :)
Which RAM settings (clock frequency, CL and secondary timings) did you use? The minima for the 3600 seem rather low for CS:Go. Linus Tech Tips (Anthony) has shown that the minima FPS are strongly influenced by the clock frequency and timings of RAM, tight timings help a lot. On a different topic, breakdancing at home is a good way to stay fit when you can't hit the gym, well done.
I'm still using my EVGA x58, i7-920 D0 based build. It still serves me well for RPG and MMO gaming at 1080p 60 Hz.
Great test! Respect! ;-)
Ile be getting an old dell with a x5675...best I can do at the moment..how do you thin that will fair at stock because dell has locked bios
Sad to see x58 starting to show its age, but it's expected really....I guess we'll have to start finding the "new x58" for future builds.
threadripper
@@nastyjawa6101 I'm pretty sure the experience will be very similar to mainstream ryzen....it'll miss x58's charm.
@@gaiustrollius9920 i worry too but i have a little hope that the epycs will get as cheap in the future like the xeons and a threadripper mobo can use one !
@@nastyjawa6101 Yeah but epycs aren't really overclockable on x399 boards.
@@gaiustrollius9920 wait impossible or just not supported via bios ? :/
i upgraded recently to a ryzen 2700, my previous x5675 rig was doing fine but the thing that made me upgrade was the high idle power being used
z400 board from ebay $30, converter for PSU $15, x5670 on ebay $15. 12gb ddr3 $35. 105$ for the complete motherboard, processor, ram combo. A simple $10 amazon 1366 cooler and it's the solid makings of a budget build. I've repeatedly made z400 motherboard builds and flipped them with x5650-x5670's.
I like this video because it actually shows A) how little progress there's been (except power use, power use is so much lower) and B) how powerful AMD's six core is for the money. I'm sure someone at Intel marketing has nightmares about the 3600/x CPU's . I really like how cheap these old Xeons are though , that's great value .