I played doen daphne in church today here in Sweden. I was all alone on stage and I tried to really bring feeling and drama to the piece and still keep the beauty. It was really fun.
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In Glasgow they tried to play classical music over the museum steps to drive away the teenage Goths (and alternative kids), but it totally backfired because they really underestimated how much your average Goth thrives on atmosphere and aesthetic. I wonder if the same happened back then, and Van Eyck more just got the teenagers to sit quietly and listen, than go away XD
The Fluyten Lust-Hof II is the one book that I would take with me, if I had to go on a long voyage and needed to reduce luggage. Actually that's what I did several years ago. I had a plastic recorder in f by Yamaha which I could literally wash - the perfect instrument for the desert. But one of my companions complained about the "sad" music - I still don't understand that appreciation, maybe my interpretation was somehow wrong.
Thanks Sarah, awesome introduction to Jacob van Eyck. Beautiful music to explore further and such an interesting mini-bio too. I learned so much in under 15 minutes!
Thanks for introducing me to these pieces. A whole body of music, freely downloadable, pretty, rewarding and challenging! And the Dan Laurin recording does that ASMR thing for me with the tonguing!
About tempo: I am not a professional so I play the tempo I can. I don't start at the tempo of the most complicated variation I can play, because the first ones would become very boring. I slow down gradually. My favorite one is definitively Doen Daphne, but I like a lot of others as well, for instance Malle Sijmen. I play Van Eyck mostly in summer because it brings me a lot of summer happiness. (And why is there no recorder emoticon?)
Amazing. A zillion years ago I studied recorder and bought the three volumes of van Eyck that were sold at the time. Two were lost about fifty years ago. I just bought a Boehm flute and ordered the complete set (and a plastic tenor, I have several recorder in both wood and plastic) my practice pieces for the Boehm flute (as opposed to my Irish flute) include Daphne and some Irish session tunes. I’m getting tired of playing everything in D and G though. I watched your videos with Michala Petri and got a little hooked on your channel but basically I play fiddle and both the flute and recorder are a trip down memory lane for me. I’m an eighty-two year old who always feels like a beginner. Bye for now.
What a wonderful and informative video! While Bert and I visited Amsterdam, my birthplace, back in 2001, an aunt was very excited to bring us to an enormous sheet music store in Amsterdam. We indeed had a great time filling about half a suitcase full of previously owned sheet music, almost all for recorder. Among our finds were the three volumes of Der Fluyten Lust-hof from XYZ (these edited by Gerritt Vellekoop).
Thank you for this video. I am trying to play it for some time now and it is so lovely and challenging to play them all. I find that it takes some time to get the hang on it, but gradually I discovered there are a fair number of similarities in the what Van Eyk is actually doing. So it becomes more easy ... Your top level tip is make it sound as improvisations. I really love that.
Very interesting! I am currently going through the facsimile of the original, and I love it. I love reading old forms of notation, and it is very fun. I am also a composer, so I can spot the mistakes, rationalise the mistakes, and/or correct them. I very much enjoy your videos, I find them fun, interesting, and helpful! I am a strings teacher, and I've been playing the Alto and Tenor recorders for about a year.
THANK YOU Sarah for this video - I found answers to basically all questions I had!! 100% spot on. As a note to those interested in listening to how many of those pieces play, I recommend Soshichi Uchii's youtube channel who posted many videos of his interpretations of van Eyck's pieces across all 3 volumes Der Fluyten Lust-Hof by Amadeus.
Oh, that is so funny: the song is called: what will we do in the evening? But how you spelled it, it becomes: What salmons do in the evening. Zalmen or zal men, makes quite a difference in Dutch.🤗
I really like your idea of using an alto recorder to play this music (using C fingering). As you mentioned, since it is solo music, it doesn't matter what you use. It might mess with my head a little using C fingering on an alto, but I like to live dangerously...
Muy intresante Sara.Pues sí,hablo el idioma de Felipe II.Siempre he tenido problemas con mantener el "tempo"en las variaciones.Siguiendo los pasos de mi profesor de solfeo decidí no continuar con el tempo original y funcionó.Ahora gracias a tus conocimientos me lo confirmas.Gracias por tu generosidad ofreciendo estos vídeos.
I’m so glad you mention the “mistakes” - I’ve felt terrible changing the notes in some of the pieces, but they don’t make musical sense to my ear. Now to do some research to see if I’m truly justified in doing so.
Nice video Sarah! Turns out I didn't know alot about Van Eyck. I played Daphne on my granddad's funeral on tenor. Perfect mix between beatifull sadness and a bit of joy
Wow Sarah, so funny. I just randomly flew by and heard a little bit of Dutch in your accent! I did not know until I saw your “how did I end up in recorder playing” video. Cool :) Je uitspraak is super goed!
I'm a beginner recorder player, fresh out of the method books, and I just bought all 3 Van Eyck volumes to pour through. Even if I can't play most of the variations at first, I just like the tunes and the history and I can take it slow. :)
Awesome, I have been writing/improvising diminutions (I first started doing that in "Caravan" with Phrygian Dominant mode licks) and didn't know there was a name for that. Excellent introduction to and History on Van Eyck, thank you Sarah! :-)
Thank you so much, I've just discovered your channel! This was so informative and inspiring. I've just purchased the Schott edition from my local music shop, and have my little Moeck maple soprano ready. I can't wait to try!
This is wonderful! I am working on some cello transcriptions of these and your insights on approach, practice, and what elements to bring out are very helpful. Thank you!
I just bought volume 1 of the Amadeus edition. I am surprised to hear that they have published something that is "full of mistakes" - their general introduction is very thorough and shows that they have done a great and serious job of editing this collection. So I think your "good sources" should provide clarification so as not to appear defamatory and biased toward one particular edition. That said, a big congratulations for your channel that I just discovered and that is full of wonderful things and good spirit. Helpful and fun.
Thanks Sarah, I’m starting a programme of listening to music as well as playing, so need lots of pointers and help. Loving working with Martin but already my fingers feel as if they’re going to drop off!
One of my faves, the one I go back to time after time, is Psalm 118. The base and first two variations are almost instinctive because they are so logical. As for the remaining variations, well, I will be forever working on the rest...grin!
I'm not quite ready for the "grown-up" editions of Lust-Hof yet, but I found that SheetMusicPlus has a Beginners Collection that I am having lots of fun with. I have only been playing for a little more than one year and it's just right for where I am at. Perhaps others would like to know about this collection as well :-)
I just got this !! 🤩 I have a 20 min slot at my local Fringe Festival to fill with Recorderness... 🎶 How I will choose though I do NOT know! Because am trying to vary the genre and style of the music in that 20 min a bit with some contemporary and folk things so will likely have to pick two from here maybe... Argh!!! I will let you know what I choose 😌 Thanks so much for alllll the tips!
Great stuff! I love heavy guitar, jazz bass, baroque harpsichord, renaissance lute and country twanging. But maybe the recorder is closest to my heart. Thanks di and keep it going!! I once interviewrd Richard Harvey, in 1979 at his house in Surbiton. Genius, do you know him?
I've always liked Kits Alamande. Alamandes in general sound very distinctly "Renaissance," so they're great to play when dressed in costume for the Renaissance Faire, which is the whole reason I originally switched to recorder from the tin whistle. Kits Alamande was the first Van Eyck piece I tried to learn, but Claude Gervais' Allemandes were the first melodies I tried to learn due to their simplicity.
Excelente tu introducción. Soy seguidor del compositor y a veces toco repeticiones en otro tempo, suena natural, casi como improvisatorio. en este caso no siento que pierda el caracter. tambien improviso ornamentaciones sobre las repeticiones. Es inagotable, con mi trío hemos "armonizado" Daphne y le hemos agregado un background tocado en sikus. En algunas regiones de America colonial se tocó musica de estos maestros con los instrumentos que más a mano se tenían. Un placer aprender tanto contigo. Un saludo desde Buenos Aires, Argentina. Milton Blanco
You might find it interesting btw that that beautiful Van Eyck tune Doen Daphne can also be found in the Fitzwilliam virginal book by Giles Farnaby, where it is also called Daphne. But perhaps you knew that already.
Second the Thiemo Wind book. Certainly not cheap, but hugely informative and terrific insights to playing them. Just to mention, some of the Dan Laurin is on iTunes as individual pieces (or the whole lot!), as is Eric Bosgraaf, and also Marion Verbruggen.
Hi Sarah, v useful info, thanks. XYZ also publish 'Der Fluyten Lust-hof The Beginners Collection' by Thiemo Wind. It has 28 relatively easy pieces, and the nice thing is they are complete, with all the variations.
Jacqui Gough - I have a 1998 XYZ edition - arranged and edited by Theimo Wind for Alto recorder - it has 26 pieces and - as far as I know - has all the variations. It doesn't say it's for beginners, and as these are the only van Eyck tunes I have seen notated, I have no knowledge as to whether they represent easier selections or not. Some get pretty challenging IMO.
Yes, I also have 'Der Fluyten Lust-hof' Beginner's Collection edited by Thiemo Wind. Whether you are a beginner or not, this book is probably a great way to begin playing van Eyck, and the book was not expensive. Sarah's video is very helpful in demonstrating how one can perform van Eyck.
I have to confess that I have struggled to like van Eyck (yes - you have permission to pile in on me!!!!) and have tended to use them more as dexterity exercises. Having said that, I do only have a selection (26 tunes) arranged for Alto recorder, so may be missing many of the greats!! However, I recently discovered a video of Piers Adams playing Wat zalmen op den Avond doen on the sopranino and it made me think again. I also quite like Lanterlu and Rosemount. I do keep trying to like them - honest!!
Where I work, the bells come every quarter hour, and after the hour bell tolls the appropriate number, there is a short carillon piece that plays. It's quite lovely.
Thank you. That's so useful. I wish I could tell you that I've looked at all of the pieces in the collection, but it would be a lie. My favourites are Pavane Lachrymae and Rosemont.
the first one i ever played was 'onder de linde groene' and i think it is still my favorite to this day - the only one i can play by heard, since i learned it when i was about 10.
hello Sarah, this was such an interesting video! Last but not least for your information about WHERE to purchase the sheet music, which is kind of hard to find through the usual channels.
Since I meet weekly with a bass viola da gamba player I am wondering if someone has written a basso continuo to go along with these. Yes, I am aware they are solo pieces intended to be played without accompaniment. But, it would still be nice to be able to share this with my Gamba player.
Yes! It is a great book for everybody and every level of playing, because Van Eyck wrote so many variations. If you are a beginner, you can just play the theme melody. If you are more advanced you can go on to the more difficult variations. :)
Thank you for yet another inspiring video Sarah, you give so much information in such a short time and so enthusiastically presented. I hope you will give us a tutorial on Ganassi’s Fontenegra, it looks tantalising but so difficult. Looking forward to your next video, they always brighten my day! Sarah
Sarah! You are the best and I find your videos so informative and inspiring. In the beginning of the video you say something about soprano fingering....Do you use it on an alto for example?
idraote if you are playing solo, it’s absolutely doable. When you play a C for instance, the note you produce on an alto is actually an F, so if you are playing with other instruments you would be in the wrong key. If you are playing solo, not an issue.
Van Eyck is a hard composer even for experienced recorder players. It is hard for a beginner to choose a suitable option among Van Eyck's compositions that fits to him/her not so technically advanced. Maybe "Fantasia & Eco" (it is not so long, thus less tiring), "Bravade" (few variations - Theme, Modus 2 and 3) and "Preludes" from volumes 1 and 2 (extremely shorts). Many beginners would like to play Van Eyck, but they get afraid because Van Eyck's works are virtuosic repertoire.
@@jonathonblues4006 I was referring to not very beginners of course. But, this book you've send me link has "Doen Daphne d'over schoone Maeght", a hard piece, mainly for last variations with its sixteenth-note diminutions running in four for a beat.
I've read the entire 3 volumes of those pieces, and given that the overall range of baroque recorders doesn't go over 2 octaves (for the most part of the pieces), I'd reckon that it would be somewhat playable on any other wind instrument, or even string instrument. For example, I've given some pieces a try on my French Horn, and it honestly doesn't sound that bad at all!
I stuck with these. I borrowed a G alto from a friend (made by R.D.Netsch), but it's very strange to play. Works well, but I miss the double holes, and I don't like the different fingerings for the high notes. For the higher f, a half hole is needed to stay tuned, and it's very sensitive for the proper finger positioning. I always feel out of tune when playing that instrument. When I switch back to my beloved Dolmetsch Bressan alto, everything returns back to normal. But playing Eyck on a high-baroque instrument is not authentic. Do anybody has a recommendation?
As harpsichord player, I learned a special non tempered tune related to his works. I suppose their instruments has also such scale. I am quite curious.
Woohoo I have started to play Daphne and I can play the first 2 modes and sound good. pretty happy I can do this after only starting in December. I will be pro in no time haha. Like I am sure every beginner, give me a song all in lower register and I sound great but going above high e is difficult. This is really helping me to get those high f g aand a's I couldn't get before. Funny this my high e is perfect but I can't do high g or a but that is less fingers. I think because the thumb for high e is exactly half which is easy to understand and remember wheras you have to close it more for g and a which is very confusing. Or it could be to do with air. Recorder is so much more interesting and complicated than I imagined. I wish I had started many years ago. I love it.
Hey dear Sarah! It's been a while since our last chat. I often give van Eyck's theme and variations pieces for my students to play...but they always play it with baroque sopranos...🙄 Mums and dads don't like the idea of spending money by buying several recorders...so I guess I'll try giving them these models as my first choice for them to buy. What do you think? Thanks! David
I have a question for all recorder players. I wanna audition for a recorder study in music college and have to play some Van Eyck. I would like to play Laura because it's my favorite Van Eyck piece. On the college's website, they say that I'm supposed to play a piece that's as difficult as Doen Daphne or Bravade. Do you think Laura is possible or is it too easy?
He actually didn't made bells, but he played on bells. He was also *blind*(!), and was one of the first who discovered the overtones in bells to tune the bells right! Maybe his blindness was a reason that the original has mistakes. ...and another question...: is it possible it was also played with lute or another continuo instrument. I mean, there are very much paintings of musicians at Dutch homes, with recorders, but also with gamba/lute/harpsichord. (i wrote my "profile scription" about the music in The Netherlands from 1575-1700)
Great video Sarah. Is there any debate about embellishing repeats in Van Eyck? Personally I think it's needed in order to keep audience interest going, but I'd be interested to know if there are other views on this.
It was very common to mix up the variations. You could for example play the theme melody, and when you repeat, you can play the first variation. Then, when you play the second half, you do the same: first the play melody and with the repeat you play the first variation. You can mix and match like this. Personally I wouldn't make too many big 'jumps' (for example from melody to last variation), because you will lose context. I think Thiemo Wind wrote something about this in his huge book about Van Eyck...
Hi Sarah.... My name is Faith, I've been trying to play the recorder for quite awhile now and it's like I can't do it. ... It's really hard. What should I do? I find it difficult in getting the fingers placing, the notes too. I just need help please 🙏🏻🙏🏻
It’s a transitional model (between renaissance and baroque) by Stephan Blezinger- but there are more affordable models like the Mollenhauer Dream, Moeck Kynseker.. not completely the same but in the right direction!
Hello Sarah and everyone, I'm one of those fiftysomethings who's picking up the recorder again after decades away, and I've recently discovered Team Recorder. I wasn't sure where to post this question, but as I'm visually impaired and Van Eyck was blind, this seems a good place! Basically, I'm looking for advice about learning by ear, as opposed to just memorizing. I have some sight and can read music up to a point, but not at the same time as playing - and unlike some blind people I don't have perfect pitch or even a particularly good musical ear - although I do have a generally good memory. If that makes sense. Sarah, if there's any chance of a video about learning recorder without printed music, that would be awesome! And is anyone else in this situation, and does anyone have any advice? Thank you! Helen.
Hi Helen! This is a really great idea- it’s something I’ve been thinking of doing a video in for a while. A colleague and good friend of mine in ine of my ensembles is visually impaired, so learning and rehearsing without sheet music is a constant topic for us. The video may take a while to plan and produce but stay tuned!
Thanks so much for replying, Sarah - I really appreciate it! It's great to hear that this is a situation you're familiar with and have been giving thought to, and I look forward to hearing more.
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The Music sound like the Jazz for that time period.
Groovy!!! So much Fun with the Recorder!!!
I played doen daphne in church today here in Sweden. I was all alone on stage and I tried to really bring feeling and drama to the piece and still keep the beauty. It was really fun.
Yes, I've played Daphne in Church (only the first 3 modos!) and it really works, despite not exactly being sacred music.
Lust-Hof! Some of my fav's! Great work talking and teaching everyone Sarah! Keep that series going!
Sarah, you have made this world a better world.
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In Glasgow they tried to play classical music over the museum steps to drive away the teenage Goths (and alternative kids), but it totally backfired because they really underestimated how much your average Goth thrives on atmosphere and aesthetic.
I wonder if the same happened back then, and Van Eyck more just got the teenagers to sit quietly and listen, than go away XD
Haha! That’ll teach them to be so patronizing!
When they sat down and listened the goal was also accomplished I guess.
Love that!
instablaster.
The Fluyten Lust-Hof II is the one book that I would take with me, if I had to go on a long voyage and needed to reduce luggage. Actually that's what I did several years ago. I had a plastic recorder in f by Yamaha which I could literally wash - the perfect instrument for the desert. But one of my companions complained about the "sad" music - I still don't understand that appreciation, maybe my interpretation was somehow wrong.
Thanks Sarah, awesome introduction to Jacob van Eyck. Beautiful music to explore further and such an interesting mini-bio too. I learned so much in under 15 minutes!
Thanks for introducing me to these pieces. A whole body of music, freely downloadable, pretty, rewarding and challenging! And the Dan Laurin recording does that ASMR thing for me with the tonguing!
About tempo: I am not a professional so I play the tempo I can. I don't start at the tempo of the most complicated variation I can play, because the first ones would become very boring. I slow down gradually.
My favorite one is definitively Doen Daphne, but I like a lot of others as well, for instance Malle Sijmen.
I play Van Eyck mostly in summer because it brings me a lot of summer happiness.
(And why is there no recorder emoticon?)
Amazing. A zillion years ago I studied recorder and bought the three volumes of van Eyck that were sold at the time. Two were lost about fifty years ago. I just bought a Boehm flute and ordered the complete set (and a plastic tenor, I have several recorder in both wood and plastic) my practice pieces for the Boehm flute (as opposed to my Irish flute) include Daphne and some Irish session tunes. I’m getting tired of playing everything in D and G though. I watched your videos with Michala Petri and got a little hooked on your channel but basically I play fiddle and both the flute and recorder are a trip down memory lane for me. I’m an eighty-two year old who always feels like a beginner. Bye for now.
What a wonderful and informative video! While Bert and I visited Amsterdam, my birthplace, back in 2001, an aunt was very excited to bring us to an enormous sheet music store in Amsterdam. We indeed had a great time filling about half a suitcase full of previously owned sheet music, almost all for recorder. Among our finds were the three volumes of Der Fluyten Lust-hof from XYZ (these edited by Gerritt Vellekoop).
Einfach wunderbar: so lebendig, überzeugend, mehr davon: CHAPEAU !! Besser kann ein Video nicht sein.
Thank you for this video. I am trying to play it for some time now and it is so lovely and challenging to play them all. I find that it takes some time to get the hang on it, but gradually I discovered there are a fair number of similarities in the what Van Eyk is actually doing. So it becomes more easy ... Your top level tip is make it sound as improvisations. I really love that.
oh Sarah, we, the Recorder fans in China, soooooo need your vedios. We hope we can get teachers like you in China. Thank you
I just started recorder about a month ago now I need these books in my life.
Very interesting! I am currently going through the facsimile of the original, and I love it. I love reading old forms of notation, and it is very fun. I am also a composer, so I can spot the mistakes, rationalise the mistakes, and/or correct them.
I very much enjoy your videos, I find them fun, interesting, and helpful! I am a strings teacher, and I've been playing the Alto and Tenor recorders for about a year.
THANK YOU Sarah for this video - I found answers to basically all questions I had!! 100% spot on.
As a note to those interested in listening to how many of those pieces play, I recommend Soshichi Uchii's youtube channel who posted many videos of his interpretations of van Eyck's pieces across all 3 volumes Der Fluyten Lust-Hof by Amadeus.
What a nice video, useful information, attratively and lightly and professionally presented, thank you.
Your playing is beautiful! And I enjoy your humour.
It’s my favourite, I go back to it again and again.
I love wat zalmen op den avond Doen.
Its one of my all time favorite
Oh, that is so funny: the song is called: what will we do in the evening? But how you spelled it, it becomes: What salmons do in the evening.
Zalmen or zal men, makes quite a difference in Dutch.🤗
I really like your idea of using an alto recorder to play this music (using C fingering). As you mentioned, since it is solo music, it doesn't matter what you use. It might mess with my head a little using C fingering on an alto, but I like to live dangerously...
I guess every recorder player does that at some point in time. I definitively have done it. 😊
glad i read this comment. i was so certain i was hearing Gs and i thought i was going NUTS
Muy intresante Sara.Pues sí,hablo el idioma de Felipe II.Siempre he tenido problemas con mantener el "tempo"en las variaciones.Siguiendo los pasos de mi profesor de solfeo decidí no continuar con el tempo original y funcionó.Ahora gracias a tus conocimientos me lo confirmas.Gracias por tu generosidad ofreciendo estos vídeos.
I didn't even know you made a video about this, I've been working on a research project for the past few years about this book wow
Couldn't agree more on your favourite video, Sarah! Each time I watch this one, I keep hoping it will last longer! 😁 Great job!!!
I’m so glad you mention the “mistakes” - I’ve felt terrible changing the notes in some of the pieces, but they don’t make musical sense to my ear. Now to do some research to see if I’m truly justified in doing so.
Nice video Sarah! Turns out I didn't know alot about Van Eyck. I played Daphne on my granddad's funeral on tenor. Perfect mix between beatifull sadness and a bit of joy
Great inspiring video!!! I recently started playing again after decades and I missed it so much! Now I'm playing 'Onder de linde groene'. Thank you!
Wow Sarah, so funny. I just randomly flew by and heard a little bit of Dutch in your accent! I did not know until I saw your “how did I end up in recorder playing” video. Cool :) Je uitspraak is super goed!
Thanks to your video I got volume 1 for Christmas - I already love this!!
Ahh great!
I'm a beginner recorder player, fresh out of the method books, and I just bought all 3 Van Eyck volumes to pour through. Even if I can't play most of the variations at first, I just like the tunes and the history and I can take it slow. :)
I know it's hardly relevant to the substance, but your pronunciation of the various dutch words is really good! To be honest, I didn't expect that.
She lives in Amsterdam
Awesome, I have been writing/improvising diminutions (I first started doing that in "Caravan" with Phrygian Dominant mode licks) and didn't know there was a name for that. Excellent introduction to and History on Van Eyck, thank you Sarah! :-)
Thank you so much, I've just discovered your channel! This was so informative and inspiring. I've just purchased the Schott edition from my local music shop, and have my little Moeck maple soprano ready. I can't wait to try!
This was very enlightening! Thank you. I'd very much like to see more such stuff! :)
Thanks for the tip about Bob Laurin. It took me a full day to download it onto my phone!
This is wonderful! I am working on some cello transcriptions of these and your insights on approach, practice, and what elements to bring out are very helpful. Thank you!
I just bought volume 1 of the Amadeus edition. I am surprised to hear that they have published something that is "full of mistakes" - their general introduction is very thorough and shows that they have done a great and serious job of editing this collection. So I think your "good sources" should provide clarification so as not to appear defamatory and biased toward one particular edition.
That said, a big congratulations for your channel that I just discovered and that is full of wonderful things and good spirit. Helpful and fun.
Amarilli mia bella is one of my favourite !!!Thank you Sarah for jour videos 💚💜💙💛❤
Thanks Sarah, I’m starting a programme of listening to music as well as playing, so need lots of pointers and help. Loving working with Martin but already my fingers feel as if they’re going to drop off!
One of my faves, the one I go back to time after time, is Psalm 118.
The base and first two variations are almost instinctive because they are so logical.
As for the remaining variations, well, I will be forever working on the rest...grin!
I'm not quite ready for the "grown-up" editions of Lust-Hof yet, but I found that SheetMusicPlus has a Beginners Collection that I am having lots of fun with. I have only been playing for a little more than one year and it's just right for where I am at. Perhaps others would like to know about this collection as well :-)
Great video! Please don't stop making informative videos like this one. Thanks :)
I just got this !! 🤩 I have a 20 min slot at my local Fringe Festival to fill with Recorderness... 🎶 How I will choose though I do NOT know! Because am trying to vary the genre and style of the music in that 20 min a bit with some contemporary and folk things so will likely have to pick two from here maybe... Argh!!! I will let you know what I choose 😌 Thanks so much for alllll the tips!
Great video! I've been tackling a bit of Van Eyck in class. They're really fun to play!
Can't wait to get my hands on these pieces. Yeah! thank you
Great stuff! I love heavy guitar, jazz bass, baroque harpsichord, renaissance lute and country twanging. But maybe the recorder is closest to my heart. Thanks di and keep it going!! I once interviewrd Richard Harvey, in 1979 at his house in Surbiton. Genius, do you know him?
I've always liked Kits Alamande. Alamandes in general sound very distinctly "Renaissance," so they're great to play when dressed in costume for the Renaissance Faire, which is the whole reason I originally switched to recorder from the tin whistle. Kits Alamande was the first Van Eyck piece I tried to learn, but Claude Gervais' Allemandes were the first melodies I tried to learn due to their simplicity.
hola, saludos desde tláhuac Méjico, gracias por compartir tu trabajo.
Excelente tu introducción. Soy seguidor del compositor y a veces toco repeticiones en otro tempo, suena natural, casi como improvisatorio. en este caso no siento que pierda el caracter. tambien improviso ornamentaciones sobre las repeticiones. Es inagotable, con mi trío hemos "armonizado" Daphne y le hemos agregado un background tocado en sikus. En algunas regiones de America colonial se tocó musica de estos maestros con los instrumentos que más a mano se tenían. Un placer aprender tanto contigo. Un saludo desde Buenos Aires, Argentina. Milton Blanco
You might find it interesting btw that that beautiful Van Eyck tune Doen Daphne can also be found in the Fitzwilliam virginal book by Giles Farnaby, where it is also called Daphne. But perhaps you knew that already.
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you very much for this beautiful video.
Second the Thiemo Wind book. Certainly not cheap, but hugely informative and terrific insights to playing them. Just to mention, some of the Dan Laurin is on iTunes as individual pieces (or the whole lot!), as is Eric Bosgraaf, and also Marion Verbruggen.
Hi Sarah, v useful info, thanks. XYZ also publish 'Der Fluyten Lust-hof The Beginners Collection' by Thiemo Wind. It has 28 relatively easy pieces, and the nice thing is they are complete, with all the variations.
Oh oh oh I didn’t know this! That’s great, thanks for sharing!
Jacqui Gough - I have a 1998 XYZ edition - arranged and edited by Theimo Wind for Alto recorder - it has 26 pieces and - as far as I know - has all the variations. It doesn't say it's for beginners, and as these are the only van Eyck tunes I have seen notated, I have no knowledge as to whether they represent easier selections or not. Some get pretty challenging IMO.
Yes, I also have 'Der Fluyten Lust-hof' Beginner's Collection edited by Thiemo Wind. Whether you are a beginner or not, this book is probably a great way to begin playing van Eyck, and the book was not expensive. Sarah's video is very helpful in demonstrating how one can perform van Eyck.
I have to confess that I have struggled to like van Eyck (yes - you have permission to pile in on me!!!!) and have tended to use them more as dexterity exercises. Having said that, I do only have a selection (26 tunes) arranged for Alto recorder, so may be missing many of the greats!!
However, I recently discovered a video of Piers Adams playing Wat zalmen op den Avond doen on the sopranino and it made me think again. I also quite like Lanterlu and Rosemount. I do keep trying to like them - honest!!
Where I work, the bells come every quarter hour, and after the hour bell tolls the appropriate number, there is a short carillon piece that plays. It's quite lovely.
Thank you. That's so useful. I wish I could tell you that I've looked at all of the pieces in the collection, but it would be a lie. My favourites are Pavane Lachrymae and Rosemont.
Thank you very much.
Excellent video.
the first one i ever played was 'onder de linde groene' and i think it is still my favorite to this day - the only one i can play by heard, since i learned it when i was about 10.
hello Sarah, this was such an interesting video! Last but not least for your information about WHERE to purchase the sheet music, which is kind of hard to find through the usual channels.
Thanks. I have a couple of volumes of these pieces and just could never really get into them. Probably because they aren't baroque.
Please avoid the kindle edition on Amazon if you have the kindle iPad app. All the music shows SIDEWAYS and there is no way to set it up correctly.
Do you ever play van Eyck on a renaissance instrument if it does use the extended high notes?
in IMSPL Petrucci library you can obtain it scanned from free download. Inclusive Originals editions
The world NEEDED this !
Amarilli Mia Bella, Malle Symen from book three and Laura are personally some of the most beautiful
Thanks for all your videos! i am a self-taught tin whistle player but now you convinced me to move to #TeamRecorder! And also you are lovely
Since I meet weekly with a bass viola da gamba player I am wondering if someone has written a basso continuo to go along with these. Yes, I am aware they are solo pieces intended to be played without accompaniment. But, it would still be nice to be able to share this with my Gamba player.
I'm now in love with Van Eyck! Do you think that this would be appropriate for someone who has just started playing the recorder like me?
Yes! It is a great book for everybody and every level of playing, because Van Eyck wrote so many variations. If you are a beginner, you can just play the theme melody. If you are more advanced you can go on to the more difficult variations. :)
Dianne Heijstee thanks! I'll try it out
About harmony : it happens sometimes that he doesn't put the same harmony, at some places, under several variations.
Thank you for yet another inspiring video Sarah, you give so much information in such a short time and so enthusiastically presented. I hope you will give us a tutorial on Ganassi’s Fontenegra, it looks tantalising but so difficult. Looking forward to your next video, they always brighten my day!
Sarah
Excellent overview...but you left out Maria Verbruggen who also does the entire collection on Van Eyck
Compliments on your technique and musicality
Sarah! You are the best and I find your videos so informative and inspiring. In the beginning of the video you say something about soprano fingering....Do you use it on an alto for example?
Yes! So I always use soprano fingerings, no matter which size of recorder I take.
So, is it really doable? Reading a score for a soprano recorder and playing for example an alto recorder pretending to be playing a soprano?
idraote if you are playing solo, it’s absolutely doable. When you play a C for instance, the note you produce on an alto is actually an F, so if you are playing with other instruments you would be in the wrong key. If you are playing solo, not an issue.
Van Eyck is a hard composer even for experienced recorder players. It is hard for a beginner to choose a suitable option among Van Eyck's compositions that fits to him/her not so technically advanced. Maybe "Fantasia & Eco" (it is not so long, thus less tiring), "Bravade" (few variations - Theme, Modus 2 and 3) and "Preludes" from volumes 1 and 2 (extremely shorts). Many beginners would like to play Van Eyck, but they get afraid because Van Eyck's works are virtuosic repertoire.
Is the beginners selection suitable ? Just seen that on amazon when searching for Van Eyck ASIN: B009VUU0KA
@@jonathonblues4006 I was referring to not very beginners of course. But, this book you've send me link has "Doen Daphne d'over schoone Maeght", a hard piece, mainly for last variations with its sixteenth-note diminutions running in four for a beat.
I've read the entire 3 volumes of those pieces, and given that the overall range of baroque recorders doesn't go over 2 octaves (for the most part of the pieces), I'd reckon that it would be somewhat playable on any other wind instrument, or even string instrument. For example, I've given some pieces a try on my French Horn, and it honestly doesn't sound that bad at all!
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I stuck with these. I borrowed a G alto from a friend (made by R.D.Netsch), but it's very strange to play. Works well, but I miss the double holes, and I don't like the different fingerings for the high notes. For the higher f, a half hole is needed to stay tuned, and it's very sensitive for the proper finger positioning. I always feel out of tune when playing that instrument. When I switch back to my beloved Dolmetsch Bressan alto, everything returns back to normal. But playing Eyck on a high-baroque instrument is not authentic. Do anybody has a recommendation?
As harpsichord player, I learned a special non tempered tune related to his works. I suppose their instruments has also such scale. I am quite curious.
Adoro i tuoi video Sara, se solo fossero sottotitolati in italiano... ☺️👏
Woohoo I have started to play Daphne and I can play the first 2 modes and sound good. pretty happy I can do this after only starting in December. I will be pro in no time haha. Like I am sure every beginner, give me a song all in lower register and I sound great but going above high e is difficult. This is really helping me to get those high f g aand a's I couldn't get before. Funny this my high e is perfect but I can't do high g or a but that is less fingers. I think because the thumb for high e is exactly half which is easy to understand and remember wheras you have to close it more for g and a which is very confusing. Or it could be to do with air. Recorder is so much more interesting and complicated than I imagined. I wish I had started many years ago. I love it.
I can now play the high f's and g's yahoo :).
Most informative. Thank you, Sarah.
Hey dear Sarah! It's been a while since our last chat. I often give van Eyck's theme and variations pieces for my students to play...but they always play it with baroque sopranos...🙄 Mums and dads don't like the idea of spending money by buying several recorders...so I guess I'll try giving them these models as my first choice for them to buy. What do you think? Thanks! David
Musescore: musescore.com/user/4989866/scores/1608116
Aquí en Argentina utilizamos dugu dugu o diguidigui para las partes rápidas de semicorcheas. No podemos utilizar el did·ll did·ll.
I have a question for all recorder players. I wanna audition for a recorder study in music college and have to play some Van Eyck. I would like to play Laura because it's my favorite Van Eyck piece. On the college's website, they say that I'm supposed to play a piece that's as difficult as Doen Daphne or Bravade. Do you think Laura is possible or is it too easy?
He actually didn't made bells, but he played on bells. He was also *blind*(!), and was one of the first who discovered the overtones in bells to tune the bells right! Maybe his blindness was a reason that the original has mistakes.
...and another question...: is it possible it was also played with lute or another continuo instrument. I mean, there are very much paintings of musicians at Dutch homes, with recorders, but also with gamba/lute/harpsichord. (i wrote my "profile scription" about the music in The Netherlands from 1575-1700)
Hello, i just downloaded the recorder version from IMSLP if you go there under "Arrengments and transcriptions, there is a lute one. Hope it helps.
Thank you for your explanation❤
Is it accepted practice to transcribe these pieces for other types of recorders? For example transposing them lower for alto recorder?
I have a copy of one of the amadeus volumes and Im not sure what is meant by "mistakes".
Great video Sarah. Is there any debate about embellishing repeats in Van Eyck? Personally I think it's needed in order to keep audience interest going, but I'd be interested to know if there are other views on this.
It was very common to mix up the variations. You could for example play the theme melody, and when you repeat, you can play the first variation. Then, when you play the second half, you do the same: first the play melody and with the repeat you play the first variation. You can mix and match like this. Personally I wouldn't make too many big 'jumps' (for example from melody to last variation), because you will lose context. I think Thiemo Wind wrote something about this in his huge book about Van Eyck...
Hi Sarah....
My name is Faith, I've been trying to play the recorder for quite awhile now and it's like I can't do it. ... It's really hard.
What should I do?
I find it difficult in getting the fingers placing, the notes too.
I just need help please 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Frans Bruggen offre une superbe interprétation de plusieurs pièces de Van Eyck
Any hints as to where to look for a recorder that has a simple look/shape like the one you use in this video?
It’s a transitional model (between renaissance and baroque) by Stephan Blezinger- but there are more affordable models like the Mollenhauer Dream, Moeck Kynseker.. not completely the same but in the right direction!
Hello Sarah and everyone, I'm one of those fiftysomethings who's picking up the recorder again after decades away, and I've recently discovered Team Recorder. I wasn't sure where to post this question, but as I'm visually impaired and Van Eyck was blind, this seems a good place! Basically, I'm looking for advice about learning by ear, as opposed to just memorizing. I have some sight and can read music up to a point, but not at the same time as playing - and unlike some blind people I don't have perfect pitch or even a particularly good musical ear - although I do have a generally good memory. If that makes sense. Sarah, if there's any chance of a video about learning recorder without printed music, that would be awesome! And is anyone else in this situation, and does anyone have any advice? Thank you! Helen.
Hi Helen! This is a really great idea- it’s something I’ve been thinking of doing a video in for a while. A colleague and good friend of mine in ine of my ensembles is visually impaired, so learning and rehearsing without sheet music is a constant topic for us. The video may take a while to plan and produce but stay tuned!
Thanks so much for replying, Sarah - I really appreciate it! It's great to hear that this is a situation you're familiar with and have been giving thought to, and I look forward to hearing more.
the notes on the lines dont match with my normal recorder... why?
A lower voice of a RECORDER is to favourite much more , than the normal one ❗️
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Quando ho una variazione CHE FUNZIONA A 2 VOCI, io farò sentire la melodia o l'armonia?
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I downloaded book 1 and went straight to the prelude. Should I have done this?
Start with whichever one you like! But master the theme before you move on the the variations.
I like "Lavignone" and "Tweede lavignone", and "Bravade" J. van Eyck, and i playing their on the soprano and alto ukrainian chromatic recorder)