TOP GUN 2 has released and the sequel did it right. It doesn't feel forced with much of the action being practical and watching in theatres, I havent felt goosebumps for a movie in a while and this movie did it!! I'm sure this movie will create a whole new geneartion of aviation heads.
TOP GUN FOREVER!!!! This was and is one of the best movies ever made.... I was fortunate to be in the United States Navy at the time and was launching and recovering jets on the flight deck of the USS Ranger CV-61 when the film was produced.... I got to meet Tom Cruise, work with him and some of the crew during some of the filming and actually got to serve the crew dinner in the Officers mess... my crew mates and I had no idea at the time the Movie Top Gun was going to be such a big hit.... it was fun participating in a small way in the film and we all have fond memories of that special time in our careers.... Its fun to watch the movie with my 8 year old daughter and my wife to show them what we did on the flight deck to launch these fighter jets into the air and bringing them safely back the ship for 8 years of Active Duty and traveling all over the world with the USS Ranger... and in the movie and how Dada served the country when I was in my early 20's.... I had a great time in the Navy... its one of the proudest times of my life.... Now its being a good Husband and Father to my little girl and our twin boys Barrett and Garrett call signs "Maverick and Goose" to all my crew mates on the USS Ranger... love you guys!!! GO TOP GUN 2
Note on the "one missile" thing: Not only was the footage tricked with editing, but the SFX used to simulate it was so good that the DoD almost launched an investigation into how more missles were used than what was originally authorized. Tony Scott and his team had to show how all of it was done.
Best compliment on his acting Tom Cruise has ever received: "I've moved into a new apartment and I'm remodeling it. And it's a funny thing, the movies. The contractor was there yesterday with his young son, and I was showing him some models of the F-14 fighter, because he'd seen the movie and he really liked it. And the contractor told me that after they went home, the kid said he'd really like to meet that Maverick guy. And the contractor said, 'That was him -- that was Tom Cruise. He was the guy who played Maverick.' "And the kid said, 'Naw, Dad. Maverick's cool.' " This excerpt is taken from a 1986 interview between Roger Ebert and Tom Cruise
This video only reinforces my contention that "Top Gun" is one of the most underrated movies of all time. People love to tease it, but it's great. The pace, the emotion, the cinematography, the acting, and the music...my god the music. It is all epic... a true classic.
Don't forget Tony Scott asked for a shot with the sun behind the USS Enterprise. The Captain said it was impossible as it would cost $25,000 to move the ship in the proper way. Scott wrote him a cheque on the spot, and they got the shot.
+RickyboyH The Enterprise was a nuclear vessel so I doubt fuel costs were that much anyway. Probably an apocryphal tale. Navy ships (even diesel) routinely change course just to adjust for wind for landing or steel beach picnics.
We lived 10 minutes from N.A.S. Miramar (now Marine Corps Air Station Miramar). Someone once bought our son a toy jet for his third birthday. He studied it for a moment & a friend, who had served on a couple of carriers, including the USS Enterprise, swung him into his arms & carried him outside where they happily stood, toy jet in hand, watching the real jets fly above. We opened our home to many Naval & Marine personnel over the years. Most were far from home & longed for a home-cooked meal & lots of laughs, in a family setting, to lessen their homesickness. If they were short of cash, they could call their families also & their Moms (usually) would then talk to us, to check if they really were eating enough :) & making sure that they really were okay. Some of the men & women who sat around around our table paid the ultimate price.....we'll never forget them.
The sex scene between Cruise and McGillis was also a reshoot. That's why it's in silhouette, so you don't notice Kelly's different hair color. Allegedly, the song Take My Breath Away by Berlin was so passionate that it made the first shoot didn't do the song justice, so they wanted to make a more passionate scene to match the score. Also, the US Navy was upset that some of the aerial shots were not supplied by them and sanctioned for the filmmakers to use. It turns out that some shots were done using models on sticks, but were done so realistically that the Navy thought that Scott somehow obtained illegal footage.
Not to mention the Department of Navy did a preliminarily investigation to determine whether or not additional missiles were fired (The effect team were so good that the Department of Navy freaked out). The XO of NAS Fallon, Nevada could have lost his job had that been the case. NAS Fallon supplied Hollywood with the planes and pilots for all aerial sequences (Except for some of the sequences with the USS Enterprise and NAS Miramar).
If you look closely the two shots prior to Mav`s last shot were the same footage. My dad was there when they shot a lot and they said they were gonna use stock footage if they couldnt get a good angle.
Bonus fact: stunt pilot Art Scholl died while filming for Top Gun. He was filming while inducing intentional flat spins and his plane didn't recover from it.
+Will Adams Bonus fact: The scene we see of "Goose's" Body being airlifted out of the water is actually footage of Tom Cruise being pulled out of the water after panicing, nearly drowning and passing out. Evidence: nypost.com/2011/08/28/tom-cruises-danger-zone/
They dont say that most of the Tomcat scenes were flown by Captain Don Bentley, USN. He was my dad's commander in the 1972 Blue Angels when they flew the F-4J Phantom II. Don Bentley ejected in winter training in NAF El Centro, CA in Jan 1973 hurting his back, so former Blues solo LCdr Skip Umpsted took over and was killed on an arrival show when he collided with Capt Mike Murphy, USMC at NAS Lakhurst, NJ. Both pilots were killed prompting the Blue Angels to transition to the A-4F Skyhawk the next season.
Three aircraft carriers were used for the film. The USS Enterprise, where the story takes place, the USS Ranger, and the USS Carl Vinson for Flight deck shots. Of the three Ships only the Carl Vinson reminds in active duty and was once again used for the filming for Top Gun 2. Fun fact, every May 16th the Vinson plays the movie Top Gun all day, and the Song Danger Zone is played during FOD walk down.
The best part was the first 5 minutes. My dad was in the Navy (retired after 20) and it was cool to see the actual job he did when he was on the flight during launches. The rest was cool jets with a lot of “that’s not what happens”. I was in the Air Force and I’m pretty sure all the branches do the same. The pilots go home after flying or training, or to their hotel or barracks if not at their assigned base. But the music was cool.
This is my absolute favorite movie of all time. Like seriously, my girlfriend got me a Top Gun sweatshirt from the USS Midway in San Diego and I consider it the best gift I’ve ever received.
You should read, Top Gun Days, by Dave "Bio" Baranek (married my cousin)...he narrates his days as a Navy Pilot - as well as his days as a Top Gun Instructor. Furthermore, he was heavily involved in the making of the movie (his name is second in the credits of pilots). Very entertaining.
I don't get it: how come those two guys wrote the screenplay, which the director then shot. But then after shooting, the resulting footage had 'no plot', and they had to cobble one together in post? What was the screenplay? 'dudes fly planes, take tops off, THE END'?
While it's been a year since oyu asked this. The actual film as far as Maverick getting the girl, going to top gun, and the fact that there woudl be some air battles were planned out. However all the air combat scenes kinda had to be made up with dialog after the fact. They already had footage of planes flying around, but it's not like they had planned out sequences of maneuvers and how the fights should be flown. All of that work was done by the editing team, and the actors then dubbed the banter that they did in the air after it was figured out. There's a whole video about it somewhere actually made by 1 of the editors, also touches quite a bit on the special effects work they did for the planes that got shot and whatnot. Was real interesting, I'll see if I can't find it again.
There are plenty of examples of movies that are about nothing. Lost in Translation. Reservoir Dogs. American Graffiti. Gravity. The big Lebowski. (That list comes from IMDB. Don’t shoot me.). So to write a jet movie with no real plot line but great imagery and a great soundtrack would have been marketable. Thankfully, they at least caught it before they shipped it to theatres.
Wow, five years. Ok let me refresh my memory. The point I was making was praise for the movie that resulted, and doubt that it really had "no plot", as the video stated. It's actually harder to write a screen play with no plot or at least get one green lit. How would the crew or actors have any idea what the characters were discussing, or motivated by, or moving towards in each scene, if there was "no plot"? It's highly implausible. And then to be able to create a plot out of total chaos, just by editing, is less plausible still. It would be a miracle to get anything even remotely logical from that process - it would be below "The Room" standard. But Top Gun is an excellent movie. Much more likely is that "there were some plot holes in the screenplay and footage, which the editors managed to fill by using creativity after shooting". That I can believe.
"It was the early 80s so they couldn't rely on digital effects to get the shots they needed"... You mean they couldn't ruin the movie with fake looking computer generated green screen bullshit
My parents are both former Navy on the aviation side, what gets them is they’re at the Top Gun school in one scene, at Fallon in the next, and San Diego in the next. This movie brings back memories of growing up
The ohhh-la-la scene between Cruise and McGillis at a beach house was at 102 N Pacific St Oceanside, California. I'm really happy to see it is being preserved.
The elevator scene was actually shot in a hotel in Chicago, locker room scene was shot in a swimming pool in San Diego. As for Charlie's older gentelman he was an actual Top Gun instructor. A technical advisor Dave Bio Baranek wrote a book "Top Gun Days" where he describes various behind the scenes moments :)
sirvando vargas this movie sucks. There is no plot, no Character Development except gay conversations. It was hit only because of the time of its release.
Here's a bonus thing YOU didn't know! I served on the USS Enterprise (the Navy aircraft carrier they filmed on). Some of the old dogs on board told stories about the filming, primarily about how Tom Cruise was a MASSIVE prima donna. The sailors took to messing with him, as sailors have done throughout time to the uptight and overly serious. The most epic example was during the scene when Maverick was holding Goose's dog tags at the edge of the hanger bay, prior to throwing them in the water. They had to film this over and over, due to sailors off screen shouting obscenities and/or throwing beer cans or other garbage across the shot line. Cruise was going increasingly ballistic, and they eventually had to clear the entire hanger to get the shot!!
I've seen this movie about 40 times (I was 20 years-old when it was released, so I caught it about 39 times on cable alone). This video happened to focus on one scene that caused me to notice something I never knew about the film before. As unbelievable as it seems, until this very moment, I never realized that acting legend Tim Robbins played Merlin.
Oh wow! If know one really cared, the potter universe would've ended with part 2 of the deathly hollows- as ms.rowling originally intended 😂😮😂 And now we're all anxiously waiting for the sequel to fantastic beasts to come out!😄🙌😄 Btw, the character eddie redmayne plays is the author of a book harry potter got during the first few years. So; based on the popularity, people DO care about harry potter 😛
I love how the scene before goose dying, Goose tells Maverick, that he lost one engine, then he lost the second engine, in the F14, there is no indication in the backseat telling goose the engines are out. Maverick would have to tell him.
Really love the various series that CineFix puts out. Between this, what's the difference and the "superhero in training" series, I really like what this production offers. Aside from Back to the Future, almost every tidbit in this series has been something I did not know so kudos for actually living up to your title. Look forward to other well researched projects in the future.
We need a Cinefix Top Gun shot compilation of every trick they did to make Tom Cruise appear taller in that movie. Apple boxes, perspectives, sitting, angles etc...
NOTHING beats watching "Top Gun" (or "Officer and a Gentleman" for that matter) on a date with a military pilot in a military theater (or one just off-base).
4:52 Yeah, about that second movie. The Studio is trying to make a Top Gun sequel with Drones as the main plot.... ....Don't crash and burn Maverick, no points for second place. *puts on Aviators*
+Mike Qike Yeah but the plot with Drones was that the government wants to replace fighter pilots entirely, Maverick was to come back as an instructor for Top Gun, and was to prove em wrong. ( •_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■)
And it was supposed to use the F35 and the new QF16 training drones. Kinda disappointed it didnt happen, because it would have gained a lot more traction than Stealth and also would have allowed for some of the money spent be recycled back into the F35 acquisition program so it wouldnt be as shit. (88 shots? Really?)
I got to hang out on the set one day, July 1985 when they filmed the shower and locker room scenes inside the old Mission Beach Plunge back when Belmont Park was an abandoned amusement park (now restored). I was sitting on a bench behind where they set up the lockers and Tom Cruise came in and sat right next to me with a ghetto blaster and a cigar. He set the stereo on the ground and started playing a tape of Simon and Garfunkle's live version of "The Sound of Silence". I dared to actually speak and without looking at him, mentioned that I really like the live version of that song better." From my peripheral view I saw him roll his head over to give me a real icy stare. AND you can see pages they used from my scrap book as filler for the bulletin board in the back ground, upper right. Earlier in the day I ate at the catering table with some of the cast like Anthony Edwards and Val Kilmer. I saw Rick Rossovich standing naked at the door of his trailer (I came around a corner and surprised him but he didn't seem to care). That man is blessed!
I loved this as a kid. To this day! Dad flew FleetOps for VMFA-212 at the time. An AIM-9 missile shot as depicted was too close for "Guns". Trophy at NWFS? nah. It isn't a competition. Learn, and share. Or rarely, improve. and Mav woulda lost his wings in this portrayal. But Top Gun!
Top Gun 2 may very well not happen at all. :'( www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-douglas-reveals-val-kilmer-is-battling-cancer_us_58174978e4b064e1b4b362c4
I love how they have debris in the cockpit. Cougar flying with a picture of his family over instrument's he needs to use to fly the plane. Maverick flying with goose's dog tags lol. That stuff would have been flying all over the cockpit lol.
Damn! Did they have to wait so long? I was 26 when the first one came out. The theater was packed. I'm 59 now for this one. I don't know anyone that still goes to the movies. We just wait for the DVD. They should produce a Special Edition DVD of the new one. But that soundtrack!!! It was epic.
Here's another bonus thing: the Soviet "MiG-28s" in the movie don't exist; MiG uses odd numbers so there is a MiG-27 and a MiG-29, but no MiG-28. The faux-MiGs appear to be F-5 Tigers which were commonly used as enemy aircraft in mock dogfights back in the 1980s (maybe still today?). I'll take F-5s in "Top Gun" over the F-4 Phantoms pretending to be MiG-29s in one of the "Iron Eagle" movies any day. FWIW "MiG" is means the plane was designed by the Mikoyan-Gurevich Design Bureau.
Yeah, the "MiGs" were provided by the real Top Gun school for the film, although in service they were painted in cammo schemes like the A-4s used by the instructors in the film, not black. Bonus fact: they didn't just reuse the same missile launch footage, they used it four times, flipped twice, even though the F-14 only carries two Sidewinder missiles. On top of that, even though the real Top Gun teaches up close dogfighting tactics and aerial gunnery, Maverick and Iceman never use their guns, either in the mock fights or in the dogfight at the end.
#8: The bitch out scene, where the Captain is telling Mav & Goose they're going to Top Gun, was filmed on the USS Ranger (CV-61) while my father was stationed in it. He was the only one on the whole ship with the key to that office, at that time, so they couldn't shoot it til he let em in. They offered him a part as an extra, but he friggin turned em down. I couldn't believe it.
Here is another thing you (probably) didn't know. The F-14 Tomcat has wings that can be moved from fully streamlined swept back for fast flight (aka combat/chase) to extended for "slow" flight (aka landing) and in between. You can see extended wings at 1:43 and swept back wings at 5:30 in this TH-cam video. In the movie there are chase scenes in which Maverick's Tomcat's wings go from extended to swept and back again waaaay too quickly. Couldn't/wouldn't happen. Always bothered me.
I started flight training at Art Scholl's training school (So Cal) when his widow was running the operation, just after his fatal crash filming Top Gun. I'm long gone from there now, but remember her to be a strong, caring and wise woman.
Two other quick facts: - This film was essentially "free" advertisement for the Navy- they had recruitment booths set up outside theaters were the movie played - Partial spoilers, but come on, everyone here has seen this movie- the film is dedicated to stunt/chase plane pilot Art Scholl, who was attempting to film a flat spin from his Pitt S-2 biplane, for footage for Maverick and Goose's accident. Art was unable to recover from the spin, and he crashed into the Pacific Ocean. Neither his plane nor his body were ever found.
That would have been Art Scholl. Arthur Everett Scholl (December 24, 1931 - September 16, 1985) was an American aerobatic pilot, aerial cameraman, flight instructor and educator based in Southern California. He died during the filming of Top Gun when his Pitts S-2 camera plane failed to recover from a flat spin and plunged into the Pacific Ocean. Scholl, 53,[1] had entered the spin intentionally in order to capture it on film using onboard cameras. Observers watched the plane continue to spin as it descended past the planned recovery altitude. Scholl's last words over the radio were "I have a problem - I have a real problem", after which the plane impacted the ocean about five miles off the coast, near Carlsbad, California. The exact cause of the crash was never determined. Neither the aircraft nor Scholl's body were ever recovered.
I watched Top Gun for the first time a few weeks ago and I was surprised how many lines of audio were used as samples in the soundtrack of the first Command and Conquer game.
If you look behind Cruise & Co. while they are sitting in their seats,right behind their left shoulder, you will see a gold or brass colored knob. This is called a "star wheel". It is a mechanical device that unlocks the ejection seat to the ejection gun. It is only used when removing the seat from the aircraft. when the seat is put back in, the seat slides down the gun rails, and once it is down all the way, the star wheel is removed. Now the seat is locked to the gun. If the star wheels were installed during flight, there is no way that the seat would not come loose from the ejection gun. If they tried to eject, they'd be screwed.
I must have been about 9 or 10 when we got our first VCR and for some reason I still remember Top Gun and Rad were the two movies we bought with it. Must have watched this movie a hundred times and though it may seem a lil cheesy now, what a awesome movie it was at the time! Looking at Val Kilmer now, it's amazing thats the same dude only 30yrs ago!
I never realized that it stayed in theaters for over a year. But now that I think about it, it sounds about right. I know that I was 13 when it came out and that I saw it five times in the theater. And it wasnt like we went to the movies every weekend back then.
I'm a big top gun fan, must have seen it a thousand times and i have the actual flight jacket and the motorcycle that maverick had... But believe me, WE DON'T WANT TOP GUN SEQUEL!!! New movie can't and will not li ve up to the expectations, as we have so fond memories of this 80s F-14 young Cruise type of movie. There is no TopGun in todays world also the air combat isn't there anymore really.. And I bet if they'de make a sequel today it would be all cheap with computer effects and they would fly on the ugliest planes were made, the F-35 space ships. It would ruin the original film's title, if they choose to do it, then they should at least name it something else than TopGun. Look how GhostBusters got ruined now with that crappy reboot. I mean they destrooyed the name -.-
Very interesting... The first time I saw it - I was sitting in a wheelchair after having busted my head open and breaking both legs a couple months earlier! (The loud noises of the jets taking off rattled my injured brain so much I burst into tears and a nurse had to roll me out of the theater until the scenes quieted down once more.) Good memories! :-)
You didn't mention buzzing the tower! I'm shocked! No one had EVER done that at the base before. So the actual fighter pilot doing that flyby was given special permission to do it once and only once.
Knew a fellow who worked on F 14 hydraulic systems who was serving aboard the Enterprise when they filmed Top Gun. Long story short, within a few days the excitement of filming was replaced with wanting Tom Cruise given fan tail liberty. Apparently Mr. Cruise was an arrogant ass! GO VARKS!
that is ofcourse what modern society wants you to believe it is. It is just a movie that depicts heavy masculinity in a non gay bro-ship manner, as it should be.
I love how the LSO's didn't wave off Cougar after he didn't call the ball. Plus they always launch an S-7 during flight ops. All cougar had to do is refuel mid air to give him time to land, or if he is too freaked out for carrier landing, direct him to nearest airport or base landing.
TOP GUN 2 has released and the sequel did it right.
It doesn't feel forced with much of the action being practical and watching in theatres, I havent felt goosebumps for a movie in a while and this movie did it!!
I'm sure this movie will create a whole new geneartion of aviation heads.
4:52 "If you ever wondered why there was never a Top Gun 2..."
**Laughs while watching the official Top Gun 2 trailer that just released**
Hell yeah brother that's what brought me here
Me too!!
Same here…
I am here because of top gun 2 trailer
Aay same
TOP GUN FOREVER!!!! This was and is one of the best movies ever made.... I was fortunate to be in the United States Navy at the time and was launching and recovering jets on the flight deck of the USS Ranger CV-61 when the film was produced.... I got to meet Tom Cruise, work with him and some of the crew during some of the filming and actually got to serve the crew dinner in the Officers mess... my crew mates and I had no idea at the time the Movie Top Gun was going to be such a big hit.... it was fun participating in a small way in the film and we all have fond memories of that special time in our careers.... Its fun to watch the movie with my 8 year old daughter and my wife to show them what we did on the flight deck to launch these fighter jets into the air and bringing them safely back the ship for 8 years of Active Duty and traveling all over the world with the USS Ranger... and in the movie and how Dada served the country when I was in my early 20's.... I had a great time in the Navy... its one of the proudest times of my life.... Now its being a good Husband and Father to my little girl and our twin boys Barrett and Garrett call signs "Maverick and Goose" to all my crew mates on the USS Ranger... love you guys!!! GO TOP GUN 2
How about now?
Note on the "one missile" thing:
Not only was the footage tricked with editing, but the SFX used to simulate it was so good that the DoD almost launched an investigation into how more missles were used than what was originally authorized.
Tony Scott and his team had to show how all of it was done.
Best compliment on his acting Tom Cruise has ever received:
"I've moved into a new apartment and I'm remodeling it. And it's a funny thing, the movies. The contractor was there yesterday with his young son, and I was showing him some models of the F-14 fighter, because he'd seen the movie and he really liked it. And the contractor told me that after they went home, the kid said he'd really like to meet that Maverick guy. And the contractor said, 'That was him -- that was Tom Cruise. He was the guy who played Maverick.'
"And the kid said, 'Naw, Dad. Maverick's cool.' "
This excerpt is taken from a 1986 interview between Roger Ebert and Tom Cruise
This video only reinforces my contention that "Top Gun" is one of the most underrated movies of all time. People love to tease it, but it's great. The pace, the emotion, the cinematography, the acting, and the music...my god the music. It is all epic... a true classic.
Underrated?
It's highly rated for fucks sake.
it's underrated by the ones that say it's highly rated
Mike D Agreed.
I’m from six years in the future to say that Top Gun 2 has happened and it is lit
Don't forget Tony Scott asked for a shot with the sun behind the USS Enterprise. The Captain said it was impossible as it would cost $25,000 to move the ship in the proper way. Scott wrote him a cheque on the spot, and they got the shot.
That's sweeeeet!!!!
Really? Can you verify this fact?
+David Townend I wonder how the captain calculated that it'd cost exactly 25k to turn the ship around? I bet he had a 2nd mortgage or something.
What a fucking badass hahaha
+RickyboyH The Enterprise was a nuclear vessel so I doubt fuel costs were that much anyway. Probably an apocryphal tale. Navy ships (even diesel) routinely change course just to adjust for wind for landing or steel beach picnics.
We lived 10 minutes from N.A.S. Miramar (now Marine Corps Air Station Miramar). Someone once bought our son a toy jet for his third birthday. He studied it for a moment & a friend, who had served on a couple of carriers, including the USS Enterprise, swung him into his arms & carried him outside where they happily stood, toy jet in hand, watching the real jets fly above. We opened our home to many Naval & Marine personnel over the years. Most were far from home & longed for a home-cooked meal & lots of laughs, in a family setting, to lessen their homesickness. If they were short of cash, they could call their families also & their Moms (usually) would then talk to us, to check if they really were eating enough :) & making sure that they really were okay. Some of the men & women who sat around around our table paid the ultimate price.....we'll never forget them.
Its great to know that people like you exist who respect and take care of the real heroes
Bonus: Top Gun was filmed at MCAS El Toro and not NAS Miramar (once again and forever, MCAS Miramar). S/F
Noo
They longed for pussy, not food.
Thats about par for the course of every naval family in san diego in the 80s haha. Everytime I drive on the 15 by miramar I think of this movie.
The sex scene between Cruise and McGillis was also a reshoot. That's why it's in silhouette, so you don't notice Kelly's different hair color. Allegedly, the song Take My Breath Away by Berlin was so passionate that it made the first shoot didn't do the song justice, so they wanted to make a more passionate scene to match the score.
Also, the US Navy was upset that some of the aerial shots were not supplied by them and sanctioned for the filmmakers to use. It turns out that some shots were done using models on sticks, but were done so realistically that the Navy thought that Scott somehow obtained illegal footage.
and that's.. a bonus thing you didn't know!
Not to mention the Department of Navy did a preliminarily investigation to determine whether or not additional missiles were fired (The effect team were so good that the Department of Navy freaked out). The XO of NAS Fallon, Nevada could have lost his job had that been the case. NAS Fallon supplied Hollywood with the planes and pilots for all aerial sequences (Except for some of the sequences with the USS Enterprise and NAS Miramar).
rbeck3200tb40 Kelly McGillis is a lesbian, yes.
If you look closely the two shots prior to Mav`s last shot were the same footage. My dad was there when they shot a lot and they said they were gonna use stock footage if they couldnt get a good angle.
That song also ... pretty much broke up the band Berlin.
4:52: if you ever wondered why there was no top gun 2.
Now: we have two trailers
Bonus fact: stunt pilot Art Scholl died while filming for Top Gun. He was filming while inducing intentional flat spins and his plane didn't recover from it.
+Will Adams Bonus fact: The scene we see of "Goose's" Body being airlifted out of the water is actually footage of Tom Cruise being pulled out of the water after panicing, nearly drowning and passing out. Evidence: nypost.com/2011/08/28/tom-cruises-danger-zone/
That inspired Goose’s tragic death during the F-14’s flat spin scene.
Sad day
They dont say that most of the Tomcat scenes were flown by Captain Don Bentley, USN. He was my dad's commander in the 1972 Blue Angels when they flew the F-4J Phantom II. Don Bentley ejected in winter training in NAF El Centro, CA in Jan 1973 hurting his back, so former Blues solo LCdr Skip Umpsted took over and was killed on an arrival show when he collided with Capt Mike Murphy, USMC at NAS Lakhurst, NJ. Both pilots were killed prompting the Blue Angels to transition to the A-4F Skyhawk the next season.
Anthony Edwards (Goose) was also the only actor who didn't barf when they got to ride in the jets.
All those years on _ER_ finally paid off :)
@@jalabi99 Except ER aired for the first time in 1994, Top Gun is from 1986..... but ok
@TulllTott He traveled into the future, got his medical experience on _ER_ then traveled eight years into the past in time for _Top Gun_ . Simple! LOL
TulllTott close but it was released in 1985. Filmed in 1994
My bad 1984 autocorrect
Today just a few hours ago they released the Top Gun 2 trailer. Thank goodness it's not cutting room floor scraps.
Might still be crappy sequel
It looks like a politically correct piece of garbage like EVERY movie today
Three aircraft carriers were used for the film. The USS Enterprise, where the story takes place, the USS Ranger, and the USS Carl Vinson for Flight deck shots. Of the three Ships only the Carl Vinson reminds in active duty and was once again used for the filming for Top Gun 2. Fun fact, every May 16th the Vinson plays the movie Top Gun all day, and the Song Danger Zone is played during FOD walk down.
The best part was the first 5 minutes. My dad was in the Navy (retired after 20) and it was cool to see the actual job he did when he was on the flight during launches. The rest was cool jets with a lot of “that’s not what happens”. I was in the Air Force and I’m pretty sure all the branches do the same. The pilots go home after flying or training, or to their hotel or barracks if not at their assigned base. But the music was cool.
This is my absolute favorite movie of all time. Like seriously, my girlfriend got me a Top Gun sweatshirt from the USS Midway in San Diego and I consider it the best gift I’ve ever received.
You should read, Top Gun Days, by Dave "Bio" Baranek (married my cousin)...he narrates his days as a Navy Pilot - as well as his days as a Top Gun Instructor. Furthermore, he was heavily involved in the making of the movie (his name is second in the credits of pilots). Very entertaining.
Still one of my favorites, with one of the best soundtracks.
And now, the sequel is only DAYS away from premiering.
"Shoot, we forgot the plot!" "It's alright, we'll add it in post."
Came here right after watching the Top Gun 2 trailer.
same here buddy
Number 8, If you want a movie with a better plot that *also* has lots of F-14 beauty shots, watch the 1980 film "The Final Countdown"
You're so right!
VF 84 forever
Two Japanese Zero's, sir. In perfect condition!
I loved that movie. A really underrated movie about time travel and WWII.
That was a great movie
I don't get it: how come those two guys wrote the screenplay, which the director then shot. But then after shooting, the resulting footage had 'no plot', and they had to cobble one together in post? What was the screenplay? 'dudes fly planes, take tops off, THE END'?
While it's been a year since oyu asked this. The actual film as far as Maverick getting the girl, going to top gun, and the fact that there woudl be some air battles were planned out. However all the air combat scenes kinda had to be made up with dialog after the fact. They already had footage of planes flying around, but it's not like they had planned out sequences of maneuvers and how the fights should be flown.
All of that work was done by the editing team, and the actors then dubbed the banter that they did in the air after it was figured out. There's a whole video about it somewhere actually made by 1 of the editors, also touches quite a bit on the special effects work they did for the planes that got shot and whatnot. Was real interesting, I'll see if I can't find it again.
Maybe you should express your opinion more respectful
There are plenty of examples of movies that are about nothing. Lost in Translation. Reservoir Dogs. American Graffiti. Gravity. The big Lebowski. (That list comes from IMDB. Don’t shoot me.). So to write a jet movie with no real plot line but great imagery and a great soundtrack would have been marketable. Thankfully, they at least caught it before they shipped it to theatres.
Wow, five years. Ok let me refresh my memory.
The point I was making was praise for the movie that resulted, and doubt that it really had "no plot", as the video stated. It's actually harder to write a screen play with no plot or at least get one green lit.
How would the crew or actors have any idea what the characters were discussing, or motivated by, or moving towards in each scene, if there was "no plot"? It's highly implausible. And then to be able to create a plot out of total chaos, just by editing, is less plausible still. It would be a miracle to get anything even remotely logical from that process - it would be below "The Room" standard. But Top Gun is an excellent movie.
Much more likely is that "there were some plot holes in the screenplay and footage, which the editors managed to fill by using creativity after shooting". That I can believe.
"It was the early 80s so they couldn't rely on digital effects to get the shots they needed"... You mean they couldn't ruin the movie with fake looking computer generated green screen bullshit
Thank God for that
Scott Matthew lmao what a boomer
@@moxie9695 ..hey future boomer
@@memoranda1 you darn gen z kids
My parents are both former Navy on the aviation side, what gets them is they’re at the Top Gun school in one scene, at Fallon in the next, and San Diego in the next. This movie brings back memories of growing up
The ohhh-la-la scene between Cruise and McGillis at a beach house was at 102 N Pacific St
Oceanside, California. I'm really happy to see it is being preserved.
yea. beautiful area
The elevator scene was actually shot in a hotel in Chicago, locker room scene was shot in a swimming pool in San Diego. As for Charlie's older gentelman he was an actual Top Gun instructor. A technical advisor Dave Bio Baranek wrote a book "Top Gun Days" where he describes various behind the scenes moments :)
If they ever do a sequel, I hope they shoot it all real, like the original. NO CGI!!!
Greatest Movie of all time. TOP GUN , The best. I've now seen it more than 50 times over.
sirvando vargas this movie sucks. There is no plot, no Character Development except gay conversations. It was hit only because of the time of its release.
Here's a bonus thing YOU didn't know! I served on the USS Enterprise (the Navy aircraft carrier they filmed on). Some of the old dogs on board told stories about the filming, primarily about how Tom Cruise was a MASSIVE prima donna. The sailors took to messing with him, as sailors have done throughout time to the uptight and overly serious. The most epic example was during the scene when Maverick was holding Goose's dog tags at the edge of the hanger bay, prior to throwing them in the water. They had to film this over and over, due to sailors off screen shouting obscenities and/or throwing beer cans or other garbage across the shot line. Cruise was going increasingly ballistic, and they eventually had to clear the entire hanger to get the shot!!
LMAO That's beautiful! Only in the the service! *high fivers*
Right on!
That's probably more annoying for the camera people that have to cut and reframe the shot every time...
lol
preach on, brotha!
I've seen this movie about 40 times (I was 20 years-old when it was released, so I caught it about 39 times on cable alone). This video happened to focus on one scene that caused me to notice something I never knew about the film before. As unbelievable as it seems, until this very moment, I never realized that acting legend Tim Robbins played Merlin.
I'm sorry, but did you just say Peter Pettigrew? HAS ANYONE SEEN HIM IN 12 YEARS
Did he have a finger missing?
I'm assuming that was before he betrayed James and Lily Potter and went into hiding with the Weasleys.
SkankHunt 42 No actually, it's Harry Potter
Iraq Lobsta!! 45 You're saying no one gives a fuck about Harry Potter? Might want to check their box office numbers.
Oh wow! If know one really cared, the potter universe would've ended with part 2 of the deathly hollows- as ms.rowling originally intended 😂😮😂
And now we're all anxiously waiting for the sequel to fantastic beasts to come out!😄🙌😄
Btw, the character eddie redmayne plays is the author of a book harry potter got during the first few years. So; based on the popularity, people DO care about harry potter 😛
I love how the scene before goose dying, Goose tells Maverick, that he lost one engine, then he lost the second engine, in the F14, there is no indication in the backseat telling goose the engines are out. Maverick would have to tell him.
Really love the various series that CineFix puts out. Between this, what's the difference and the "superhero in training" series, I really like what this production offers. Aside from Back to the Future, almost every tidbit in this series has been something I did not know so kudos for actually living up to your title. Look forward to other well researched projects in the future.
I agree upto back to the future, that was awsome
Tom is an excellent, excellent pilot--- not many hollywood stars could handle an F-14 like that
Who is here after the second trailer dropped? No sequel my ass
Alexander Collier It looks fucking awesomeee
cuz there wasnt a plan for a sequel 3 years ago XD
We need a Cinefix Top Gun shot compilation of every trick they did to make Tom Cruise appear taller in that movie. Apple boxes, perspectives, sitting, angles etc...
Would it be possible for you guys to do a video on Blue Velvet, Platoon, Aliens or Ferris Bueller's Day Off, for their 30th anniversaries?
Favorite cruise films are Collateral, Magnolia and Minority Report. All three are masterpieces, cruise is amazing in everything.
Best movie channel on YT!
NOTHING beats watching "Top Gun" (or "Officer and a Gentleman" for that matter) on a date with a military pilot in a military theater (or one just off-base).
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Yeah, about that second movie. The Studio is trying to make a Top Gun sequel with Drones as the main plot....
....Don't crash and burn Maverick, no points for second place.
*puts on Aviators*
So Stealth 2 then ...
+Mike Qike Yeah but the plot with Drones was that the government wants to replace fighter pilots entirely, Maverick was to come back as an instructor for Top Gun, and was to prove em wrong.
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Drones and lots of CGI... I started yawning only by thinking of it.
I'm sorry, but Drones just aren't homoerotic enough. Don't they love their country?! ;)
And it was supposed to use the F35 and the new QF16 training drones.
Kinda disappointed it didnt happen, because it would have gained a lot more traction than Stealth and also would have allowed for some of the money spent be recycled back into the F35 acquisition program so it wouldnt be as shit. (88 shots? Really?)
I got to hang out on the set one day, July 1985 when they filmed the shower and locker room scenes inside the old Mission Beach Plunge back when Belmont Park was an abandoned amusement park (now restored). I was sitting on a bench behind where they set up the lockers and Tom Cruise came in and sat right next to me with a ghetto blaster and a cigar. He set the stereo on the ground and started playing a tape of Simon and Garfunkle's live version of "The Sound of Silence". I dared to actually speak and without looking at him, mentioned that I really like the live version of that song better." From my peripheral view I saw him roll his head over to give me a real icy stare. AND you can see pages they used from my scrap book as filler for the bulletin board in the back ground, upper right. Earlier in the day I ate at the catering table with some of the cast like Anthony Edwards and Val Kilmer. I saw Rick Rossovich standing naked at the door of his trailer (I came around a corner and surprised him but he didn't seem to care). That man is blessed!
Dangit, I knew all of these. Also, RIP in peace Tony Scott.
wtf? RIP means rest in peace
RIP means RIP in peperoni
Yep me too.
Mabs R.I.P. stands for Rest In Piece don’t need to add the in peace after R.I.P.
I think that a podcast in the same format (top 5 lists, brilliant moments, things you didn't know, etc.), about music would be great
I miss the '80s. We had good music, patriotism, people were in better shape, dating was easier, etc. 2010s suck!
I loved this as a kid. To this day! Dad flew FleetOps for VMFA-212 at the time. An AIM-9 missile shot as depicted was too close for "Guns". Trophy at NWFS? nah. It isn't a competition. Learn, and share. Or rarely, improve. and Mav woulda lost his wings in this portrayal. But Top Gun!
I LOVE THE TOP GUN...ALL THE ACTORS AND ACTRESS ARE JUST PERFECT ... RESPECT MR THOMAS MAPOTHER CRUISE ... MISSING YOU LOVE OF MY LIFE
You missed the Navy F14 pilot who actually was told to buzz the tower. Great story.
Top Gun 2 is in very early production. Tom Cruise has signed up for it. Whether we actually see a movie in the cinemas, that is a different question.
Val Kilmer has signed on too.
Kilmer was probably- _ironically-_ compelled to join the sequel because he's not making much money these days, heh heh heh.
Top Gun 2 may very well not happen at all. :'(
www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-douglas-reveals-val-kilmer-is-battling-cancer_us_58174978e4b064e1b4b362c4
SCE2AUX2 I don't think Top Gun 2 hinges on Kilmer being in the movie or not.
It is happening right now (august 2018)
One can only hope waiting 40 years for part two is worthy!
How does one read a script, shoot the movie, and then realize there's no plot?
Never underestimate the power of denial.
Welcome to Hollywood
Gov't propaganda needs no plot.
I love how they have debris in the cockpit. Cougar flying with a picture of his family over instrument's he needs to use to fly the plane. Maverick flying with goose's dog tags lol. That stuff would have been flying all over the cockpit lol.
MASTERPIECE 🔥
Damn! Did they have to wait so long? I was 26 when the first one came out. The theater was packed. I'm 59 now for this one. I don't know anyone that still goes to the movies. We just wait for the DVD. They should produce a Special Edition DVD of the new one. But that soundtrack!!! It was epic.
Here's another bonus thing: the Soviet "MiG-28s" in the movie don't exist; MiG uses odd numbers so there is a MiG-27 and a MiG-29, but no MiG-28. The faux-MiGs appear to be F-5 Tigers which were commonly used as enemy aircraft in mock dogfights back in the 1980s (maybe still today?).
I'll take F-5s in "Top Gun" over the F-4 Phantoms pretending to be MiG-29s in one of the "Iron Eagle" movies any day.
FWIW "MiG" is means the plane was designed by the Mikoyan-Gurevich Design Bureau.
Yeah, the "MiGs" were provided by the real Top Gun school for the film, although in service they were painted in cammo schemes like the A-4s used by the instructors in the film, not black.
Bonus fact: they didn't just reuse the same missile launch footage, they used it four times, flipped twice, even though the F-14 only carries two Sidewinder missiles. On top of that, even though the real Top Gun teaches up close dogfighting tactics and aerial gunnery, Maverick and Iceman never use their guns, either in the mock fights or in the dogfight at the end.
They still use F- 5 s I think but those are F-5 E Tiger 2s .The trainer version is called a T-38
They were F-5E Tiger IIs used as aggressors for dissimilar combat training.
#8: The bitch out scene, where the Captain is telling Mav & Goose they're going to Top Gun, was filmed on the USS Ranger (CV-61) while my father was stationed in it. He was the only one on the whole ship with the key to that office, at that time, so they couldn't shoot it til he let em in. They offered him a part as an extra, but he friggin turned em down. I couldn't believe it.
Here is another thing you (probably) didn't know. The F-14 Tomcat has wings that can be moved from fully streamlined swept back for fast flight (aka combat/chase) to extended for "slow" flight (aka landing) and in between. You can see extended wings at 1:43 and swept back wings at 5:30 in this TH-cam video. In the movie there are chase scenes in which Maverick's Tomcat's wings go from extended to swept and back again waaaay too quickly. Couldn't/wouldn't happen. Always bothered me.
I started flight training at Art Scholl's training school (So Cal) when his widow was running the operation, just after his fatal crash filming Top Gun. I'm long gone from there now, but remember her to be a strong, caring and wise woman.
I loved this movie. I loved the fighter jets and male camaraderie.
But now you have a sequel. Hell yeah!!
Two other quick facts:
- This film was essentially "free" advertisement for the Navy- they had recruitment booths set up outside theaters were the movie played
- Partial spoilers, but come on, everyone here has seen this movie- the film is dedicated to stunt/chase plane pilot Art Scholl, who was attempting to film a flat spin from his Pitt S-2 biplane, for footage for Maverick and Goose's accident. Art was unable to recover from the spin, and he crashed into the Pacific Ocean. Neither his plane nor his body were ever found.
That should have been on here.
Also no,I've never seen top gun because I couldn't care less about anything other then the aerial footage xD
Hats off to Tony Scott! Waving at you on the beautiful sunsets....
There should be a remake with modern planes, today's political situation, Maverick and Iceman using grindr...
This comment almost aged well. Almost.
It’s great that we are finally getting a sequel
What about the fact that one of the real pilots died shooting the flat spin scene?
That would have been Art Scholl. Arthur Everett Scholl (December 24, 1931 - September 16, 1985) was an American aerobatic pilot, aerial cameraman, flight instructor and educator based in Southern California. He died during the filming of Top Gun when his Pitts S-2 camera plane failed to recover from a flat spin and plunged into the Pacific Ocean. Scholl, 53,[1] had entered the spin intentionally in order to capture it on film using onboard cameras. Observers watched the plane continue to spin as it descended past the planned recovery altitude. Scholl's last words over the radio were "I have a problem - I have a real problem", after which the plane impacted the ocean about five miles off the coast, near Carlsbad, California. The exact cause of the crash was never determined. Neither the aircraft nor Scholl's body were ever recovered.
Whoa. I never heard about that. That would have been a good thing to put in this video. _slackers_
I watched Top Gun for the first time a few weeks ago and I was surprised how many lines of audio were used as samples in the soundtrack of the first Command and Conquer game.
Who came here after watching top gun: maverick trailer?
It's 2016 they need to make a sequel! RIP Tony Scott..
They basically did do a sequel, it was called 'Days of Thunder'
+jabroniman You mean that movie where Tom Cruise played the cocky young guy?
+NukeMarine ha, yes, that's all his movies
all his early movies- these days he has moved on to other characters like playing a cocky old guy
@@NukeMarine you should be more respectful
@@jabroniman you should be more respectful
Remember the game on the NES? Having to land on the aircraft carrier was awesome!
Lana. Lana. LANAAAAAA!
WHAT!!!!
+Frank Thepug danger zone
something something DANGER ZONE
+Frank Thepug ...Danger Zone.
Do not mock the K-log...
(danger zone)
Now we know the second is being made, and with little CGI!! That makes it even better!
today's the 32nd anniversary of top gun
Wow Top Gun is 30 years old holy shit!!! I sure hope the sequel is good and isn't being made to late
'just for the ladies' ... lol, sure!
ikr? totally clueless 😂😂😂😂😂
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It’s the Navy, could be for anyone!
Edit: I’m just joking. For those who don’t know, there is a stereotype that guys in the Navy are gay.
One of my favorite movies !! I wish they made a TOP GUN 2!!!
Peter pettigrew
If you look behind Cruise & Co. while they are sitting in their seats,right behind their left shoulder, you will see a gold or brass colored knob. This is called a "star wheel". It is a mechanical device that unlocks the ejection seat to the ejection gun. It is only used when removing the seat from the aircraft. when the seat is put back in, the seat slides down the gun rails, and once it is down all the way, the star wheel is removed. Now the seat is locked to the gun. If the star wheels were installed during flight, there is no way that the seat would not come loose from the ejection gun. If they tried to eject, they'd be screwed.
When he says “the half naked guys; they’re just for the ladies”. •all the gay guys: 😳😟🤔
Its for you too 😂❤🤙
I must have been about 9 or 10 when we got our first VCR and for some reason I still remember Top Gun and Rad were the two movies we bought with it. Must have watched this movie a hundred times and though it may seem a lil cheesy now, what a awesome movie it was at the time! Looking at Val Kilmer now, it's amazing thats the same dude only 30yrs ago!
Still an awesome movie.
And then Meg Ryan turned into a horrible monster. The end.
I never realized that it stayed in theaters for over a year. But now that I think about it, it sounds about right. I know that I was 13 when it came out and that I saw it five times in the theater. And it wasnt like we went to the movies every weekend back then.
I'm a big top gun fan, must have seen it a thousand times and i have the actual flight jacket and the motorcycle that maverick had... But believe me, WE DON'T WANT TOP GUN SEQUEL!!!
New movie can't and will not li ve up to the expectations, as we have so fond memories of this 80s F-14 young Cruise type of movie.
There is no TopGun in todays world also the air combat isn't there anymore really.. And I bet if they'de make a sequel today it would be all cheap with computer effects and they would fly on the ugliest planes were made, the F-35 space ships.
It would ruin the original film's title, if they choose to do it, then they should at least name it something else than TopGun.
Look how GhostBusters got ruined now with that crappy reboot. I mean they destrooyed the name -.-
Very interesting... The first time I saw it - I was sitting in a wheelchair after having busted my head open and breaking both legs a couple months earlier! (The loud noises of the jets taking off rattled my injured brain so much I burst into tears and a nurse had to roll me out of the theater until the scenes quieted down once more.) Good memories! :-)
You've lost that loving feeling ...
we're going to ignore that stealth was supposed to be a top gun sequel or the whole real school? this needs a pt 2
You didn't mention buzzing the tower! I'm shocked! No one had EVER done that at the base before. So the actual fighter pilot doing that flyby was given special permission to do it once and only once.
busting the tower
Don't correct people when they aren't wrong
Knew a fellow who worked on F 14 hydraulic systems who was serving aboard the Enterprise when they filmed Top Gun. Long story short, within a few days the excitement of filming was replaced with wanting Tom Cruise given fan tail liberty. Apparently Mr. Cruise was an arrogant ass! GO VARKS!
Has to be top of the "movies you didn't know were super gay when you watched it as a child" list... not that there's anything wrong with that.
Uhh, interesting opinion lol
Yuuup...it's basically He-Man and Ben-Hur with fighter jets. ;)
Yeah, it kinda looks like the Lethal Weapon 6 parody in It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia where they are in the shower after playing volleyball.
He missed the gay undertones. Majorly.
that is ofcourse what modern society wants you to believe it is. It is just a movie that depicts heavy masculinity in a non gay bro-ship manner, as it should be.
I love how the LSO's didn't wave off Cougar after he didn't call the ball. Plus they always launch an S-7 during flight ops. All cougar had to do is refuel mid air to give him time to land, or if he is too freaked out for carrier landing, direct him to nearest airport or base landing.
When films didnt use cgi!! That were good times
Tom Cruise still does not 😂
This is one of my favourite movies of all time
Tom Cruise used a booster seat when sitting in the F 14 cockpit.
lol
Got a feeling this is about to get a LOT more views.
We got a new trailer now for Top Gun: Maverick
Maverick is coming back. I was in high school when this movie came out. Glad they are bringing him back.
Here after top gun 2 trailer