Mirella Freni: «Tu che la vanità», de Don Carlos, de G. Verdi.

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  • Don Carlos (versión francesa).
    Isabel de Valois: Mirella Freni, soprano lírica.
    Orquesta del MET.
    Director: James Levin.
    Nueva York, 1983.
    El texto de la obra, escrito originalmente en francés, se tituló Don Carlos aunque posteriormente en la versión italiana se cambió por Don Carlo.
    La versión francesa se compone de cinco actos con el libreto firmado por François Joseph Méry y Camille du Locle, basado en el drama «Dom Karlos, Infant von Spanien» de Federico Schiller. Tuvo su primera representación en el Teatro Imperial de la Ópera de París, el 11 de marzo de 1867.
    La versión italiana se estrenó en el Teatro de la Scala de Milán el 10 de enero de 1884.

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  • @canticumcordis7538
    @canticumcordis7538 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    La linea di canto, il fraseggio, l’interpretazione sono veramente belle in questa performance di Mirella Freni. ❤🎵

  • @sayersbrock
    @sayersbrock 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    If ever there was a masterclass in singing and opera... this is it...brava mirella!

  • @rossmerchant8435
    @rossmerchant8435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    E godi nell'avel il riposo profondo, Mirella Freni. RIP
    Another true artist lost this year. This was the first aria I thought to listen to when I heard the news. One of her great roles, to which she brought so much sorrow, maturity, and warmth

  • @LazarNewDeal
    @LazarNewDeal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    A heavier soprano will always be missed in this aria, but Freni's line of singing and vocal wisdom here is amazing.

  • @fredojoaquim4764
    @fredojoaquim4764 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Freni is lovely and a wonderful Elisabetta. A very heavy role for a soprano. Mirella Freni's performance is majestically sublime.😍☀️🤩

  • @peterchun1521
    @peterchun1521 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Un. believable. A complete and ultimate SLAYING of the music, and the audience. Wow...

  • @bvorak9221
    @bvorak9221 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Merci Mirella pour tous ces magnifiques moments, pour l'émotion....... repose en paix auprès de ton époux Nicolaï Ghiaurov

  • @giovannibelfiori4907
    @giovannibelfiori4907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Splendida interpretazione! Grandissima Elisabetta💟

  • @edwardbeckwith
    @edwardbeckwith 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I heard her at the Met in 1993. Her voice is much larger live and POWERFUL!

  • @wilsonmarques3992
    @wilsonmarques3992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of the greatest sopranos of all times.

    • @carmencitav
      @carmencitav 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely!!!

  • @nicolascobelli4509
    @nicolascobelli4509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dios, para mi la mejor ópera de Verdi. Los climas que crea con la música son magistrales al igual que los personajes.

    • @giovanniarioli2971
      @giovanniarioli2971 ปีที่แล้ว

      Verdi to write Don Carlos, has written before la Forza, Ballo in maschera...then the top of Opera. Here Supreme Elisabetta of ever. I love both

  • @MartinGarcia-sz6ik
    @MartinGarcia-sz6ik ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I.que. estilo.del. director. Que. Magnífica orquesta. Filarmónica. Sín.música. no.podría. existir. La ópera.

  • @rosedispahan8472
    @rosedispahan8472 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bravo pour la vidéo avec la partition pour les chanteurs c’est merveilleux merci encore

  • @FranciscoFerrerGaliana1930
    @FranciscoFerrerGaliana1930 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Maravillosa, esplendida interpretación..¡¡

  • @cristinapalermo3569
    @cristinapalermo3569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bravissima Mirella. Now you're singing with the angels.RIP.

  • @lorenzorossi6567
    @lorenzorossi6567 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Uno dei pezzi più verdi che abbia mai scritto Verdi. Interpretato benissimo dalla Freni, con fraseggio eccellente. Anche Levine (che non mi è mai piaciuto molto in Verdi) ha levigato certe sue asperità e saputo giocare coi fiati in modo eccezionale.

  • @ininacsot
    @ininacsot 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Une, parmi les meilleures versions de Don Carlo ( en 5 actes) que du plaisir, encore merci Madame!!

  • @ocasuista850
    @ocasuista850 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Verdi is the father of perfect art

  • @clarahultqvist1359
    @clarahultqvist1359 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When I sang this I was made aware that the lyrics are LE vanità, not LA.
    I took a master class for the marvelous Freni in 2004. Still treasure it in my heart ❤

  • @dubbelhenke854
    @dubbelhenke854 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wonderfully well sung!

  • @callastoujours
    @callastoujours 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Magnífica!!!! Brava!!!

  • @lilidiamandsajarin6548
    @lilidiamandsajarin6548 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maravillosa como siempre! 🥰

  • @raffaelecapellirossi1852
    @raffaelecapellirossi1852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Semplicemente meravigliosa. Grazie.

  • @krrainey77
    @krrainey77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am falling in love with this aria.

  • @starlove7474
    @starlove7474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I saw that production and cast in 1983 and it was the greatest performance I've ever seen at the opera. I was totally transported.

    • @golden-63
      @golden-63 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the first time and, unfortunately, the only time I saw Freni at the Met, I was surprised at the size of her voice. Yes, still a lyric, but big.

    • @operadoc
      @operadoc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was there as well

  • @user-qi3yy6xs15
    @user-qi3yy6xs15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Божественно!!!! БРАВО!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @chengducat
    @chengducat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the loveliest voices

  • @germanquintero10121946
    @germanquintero10121946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MARAVILLA

  • @carprinceps
    @carprinceps 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Qué técnica, Mirella!!!

  • @tabarro1877
    @tabarro1877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! Wow! Brava!!❤💕❤

  • @MrAndredekock
    @MrAndredekock 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    There is NO OTHER Elisabetta for me! There are NOT enough superlatives to describe this performance! BRAVISSIMA Mme Freni!

  • @romearomeo
    @romearomeo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mirella sei fantastica

  • @pilouetmissiou
    @pilouetmissiou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    sarai sempre nei nostri cuori Mirella.....

  • @maurotorriani3677
    @maurotorriani3677 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Brava Brava Brava! Niente da eccepire!

    • @bodiloto
      @bodiloto 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mauro Torriani
      niente da eccepire ?!?!
      e la pronuncia ?!?!...
      il vecchio

  • @HenJack-vl5cb
    @HenJack-vl5cb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Freni es extraordinaria..igual que la orquesta y la dirección!

  • @orlandoguerreroromero4085
    @orlandoguerreroromero4085 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a beautiful voice!

  • @ESilva-gw9ig
    @ESilva-gw9ig 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful in every way. RIP diva!

  • @vegtamvanderveg
    @vegtamvanderveg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for putting the music on the video!

  • @fredojoaquim4764
    @fredojoaquim4764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Note: The Italian version of this grandious Opera is Don Carlo, while the French version is Don Carlos. I have seen this opus on DVD. 🤩☀️😍This incipient is from the Italian version in Five Acts.

  • @giacomokim3877
    @giacomokim3877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ti amo cara Maestra .

  • @toscadonna
    @toscadonna 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Freni did an outstanding job here. She was always considered more lyrical soprano, but she sure pulled out some chest voice here and kept her vocal line impeccable. And she looks very cute in that costume.

  • @40turati
    @40turati 9 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Tú, que la vanidad del mundo conociste
    y gozas, en tu sepulcro, del reposo profundo,
    si aún se llora en el cielo,
    llora por mi dolor,
    y lleva mi llanto al trono del Señor.
    ¡Sí! ¡Carlos vendrá!
    ¡Que se vaya y me olvide para siempre!
    A Posa, que velaría por su futuro, le juré,
    que siga, pues, su destino.
    La gloria alcanzará;
    para mí, la vida ya se ha terminado...
    ¡Francia, noble tierra,
    tan querida en mi infancia!
    ¡Fontainebleau!
    Hacia ti vuelan mis pensamientos.
    Allí escuchó Dios de mí,
    eterno juramento de amor,
    y esa eternidad sólo duró un día.
    Entre vosotros, dulces jardines
    de esta tierra ibera,
    si Carlos aún detiene sus pasos al anochecer,
    que los prados y los arroyos,
    las fuentes, los bosques y las flores,
    con su armonía, le canten nuestro amor.
    ¡Adiós, bellos sueños de oro, ilusión perdida!
    ¡El lazo se rompió; la luz se apagó!
    ¡Adiós, juventud que cedes a este cruel dolor!
    El corazón sólo tiene un deseo:
    ¡la paz de la tumba!
    Tú, que la vanidad conociste del mundo
    y gozas, en tu sepulcro, del reposo profundo,
    si aún se llora en el cielo,
    llora por mi dolor,
    y el tuyo, con el llanto mío,
    ofrece a los pies del Señor.

    • @callastoujours
      @callastoujours 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mario Turati Gracias por la traducción :)

    • @Artorius86
      @Artorius86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gracias!

  • @sandrastefanelli1931
    @sandrastefanelli1931 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Che voce...

  • @garygary978
    @garygary978 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Her pronunciation is superb, love when artists sing their own languages such as Ludwig

  • @alexanderrazumov4493
    @alexanderrazumov4493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Восхитительно!

  • @paolagaleati152
    @paolagaleati152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    MERAVIGLIOSA !

  • @mikaelb7735
    @mikaelb7735 ปีที่แล้ว

    SUPERB!!!

  • @dodotassi
    @dodotassi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    splendida

  • @MartinGarcia-sz6ik
    @MartinGarcia-sz6ik ปีที่แล้ว

    No cabe. Duda. La ópera es. Mucho más. Bella. I.gran diosa. E en. Boca. De. Intérprete. Mujer.

  • @gillesrougier
    @gillesrougier 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sublime

  • @evakiseleva8570
    @evakiseleva8570 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Freni. FRENI!!!! FfffRrrEeeeNnnIii!!!!!!!! 💞

  • @luigicorvi1661
    @luigicorvi1661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SHE IS NO PRINCESS.........SHE IS A QUEEN!!!!!
    WHEN I WAS STUDYING VOICE WITH TATIANA MENOTTI AND JUAN ONCINA AND CAMPOGALLIANI IN BARCELONA DURING THE MID EIGHTIES.....I INFESTED THE LICEO........AND CAN ATTEST THAT FRENI WAS THE GREATEST SINGER I HEARD THERE.
    THE WAY THE UPPER REGISTER OF HER VOICE FLOODED THE THEATRE GAVE YOU GOOSEBUMPS ALL OVER.
    HER AMELLIA GRIMALDI WAS STUPENDOUS.AS WAS HER ADRIANNA LECOUVREUR.....I WENT TO MULTIPLE PERFORMANCES.AND CAN ATTEST THAT SHE CONSTANTLY BROUGHT THE HOUSE DOWN. IT WAS DURING THIS PERIOD THE EARTHQUAKE IN MEXICO HAPPENED AND A CONCERT HAD BEEN QUICKLY ORGANISED TO BENIFIT THE VICTIMS OF THE QUAKE.THIS CONCERT PIGGY BACKED ONTO THE SIMON BOCANEGRA...SO THAT NIGHT WAS VERY LONG ESPECCIALLY FOR FRENI WHO PARTICIPATED EXTENSIVELY IN BOTH.......SO EVERYONE WAS WAITING ATVTHE STAGE DOOR PEN IN HAND......WHEN FRENI APPEARED SHE LOOKED VERY TIRED AND WAS CLEARLY DAUNTED AT THE HUNDREDS OF FANS WAITING TO GREET HER AT THE STAGE DOOR ....ME...FIRST IN THE QUEUE........I TOOK ONE LOOK AT HER AND LET HER PASS UNMOLESTED BUT DEFINATLY ADORED.......THE NEXT AFTERNOON I WENT FOR MY LESSON ANDBWHO WAS COMING OUT OF THE ONCINAS WAS MIRELLA FRENI WHO RECOGNISED ME FROM THE NIGHT BEFORE.........MR ONCINA TOOK HER BACK TO HER HOTEL....AND ON HIS RETURN HE DELIVERED TO ME FROM FRENI A BEAUTIFUL COLOURED PHOTO WITH DEDICATION AND SIGNATURE WHICH I CHERISH.

  • @saverioorlando
    @saverioorlando 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    molto molto ben cantata il pubblico ha ragione|

  • @henryv69
    @henryv69 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meravigliosa

  • @ned-nedkatelbizova
    @ned-nedkatelbizova 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ВЕЛИКОЛЕПНА ФРЕНИ!!!👏👏👏

  • @pabloperdomo5174
    @pabloperdomo5174 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who cares if the voice was not heavy enough for this role. Listen to the nuances of her interpretation, the character portrayed through one of the most beautiful soprano voices ever, supreme musicality. Tebaldi NEVER sang the role on stage only recorded it for the London/DECCA label near the end of her glorious career. Callas sang this with Corelli on stage at La Scala and there are rumors that the tenor's wife recorded the whole opera but never released it because "il divo" was not in perfect voice that night. Caballé, which I admired a lot, sang Elisabetta many times perhaps with a more appropriate voice and colors but never close to Freni's refined and dramatic expressiveness.

  • @EOCC13
    @EOCC13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb

  • @ercangoo2620
    @ercangoo2620 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mirella ETERNA!

  • @daniel_5606
    @daniel_5606 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brava 🥺

  • @michelangelobo
    @michelangelobo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Italia la prima è stata il 27 ottobre 1867 al Teatro Comunale di Bologna

  • @germanquintero10121946
    @germanquintero10121946 ปีที่แล้ว

    ESPLENDIDA

  • @copleysq
    @copleysq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    conductor is Joseph Levine.

  • @draganvidic2039
    @draganvidic2039 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Role is for a dramatic soprano or a spinto, nevertheless even lyrics sing it nowadays. Freni is one great lyric who started this habit since she was asked to do it. She also did Manon Lescaut and Aida...

    • @wilsonwatt9283
      @wilsonwatt9283 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Karajan started this trend. He did not like the big sopranos who often overpowered his orchestra. He hated Nilsson for example even though he worked with her because he had to given her standing in Wagner. He wanted all singers to be secondary to his orchestra, as though opera was some sort of concert rather than a dramatic performance where the singers are more important. The only vocal artist he ever really respected was Callas.

    • @draganvidic2039
      @draganvidic2039 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wilson Watt
      Yes, she was asked to do it I guess.

    • @thomasmerkelbach2755
      @thomasmerkelbach2755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wilson Watt I love Callas. That doesn‘t mean I don‘t have to miss others. And Freni was a great Elisabetta.

    • @rossmerchant8435
      @rossmerchant8435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@wilsonwatt9283 Nilsson's riotous sense of humor was the perfect foil to the ego of Karajan, or Herbie, as she called him. Per Nilsson, he wrote her with a list of roles he demanded to conduct her in. To which she laconicly replied "Busy. Birgit." There's also the famous story where she wore a miners hat to rehearsal to protest his dimly-lit staging

    • @draganvidic2039
      @draganvidic2039 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wilson Watt
      I read yesterday he wanted her to sing Turandot which she wisely refused, and that was the end of them working together. They never spoke again.

  • @numetutelare
    @numetutelare ปีที่แล้ว

    Talmente brava che sue colleghe coeve con un timbro magari più prezioso non hanno eguagliato la sua meravigliosa resa vocale...

    • @fabriziogarzi9892
      @fabriziogarzi9892 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tu dici? Tutte quelle r arrotate...i portamenti...il timbro poco verdiano...poca nobilta'...forse sono io stupidamente esigente.

    • @numetutelare
      @numetutelare 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fabriziogarzi9892 diciamo che se la altre avessero avuta la sua tecnica....sarebbero durate molto di più e in vice. Poi sia chiaro non era una voce di timbro bellissimo. Tuttavia guardiamo una Caballe', timbro magico ma carriera spezzettata da un canto ad un certo punto sbrigativo quando non penoso.

    • @fabriziogarzi9892
      @fabriziogarzi9892 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@numetutelare si, la Caballe' ha avuto un percorso un tantino "troppo allegro" ed e' durata intonsa si è no una dozzina di anni ma comunque un pezzetto di storia della musica, in alcune cose, l'ha scritta.

  • @鈴木静夫-t6y
    @鈴木静夫-t6y ปีที่แล้ว

    フレー二のエリザベッタ最高です。
    ヴェルディでは「ドン・カルロ」が最も好きで随分多くの演奏を聴きましたが、カラス、テバルディと言えどもフレー二の右に出る者はいないと思います。

  • @orion8835
    @orion8835 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    R.I.P. Freni -Mirella did very well with the lirico-spinto roles and is near perfection in this role as her voice which was always plump really expanded a bit larger by the 1980’s. However : “Il pianto mio , o porto altrono del Signor” was only half effective as she became inaudible on the second of low part before leap. It’s a notorious interval that only a few recorded sopranos seem to manage and even live it can get fudged. Freni seems more preoccupied with gunning to the Bb quickly in an outer hinge technique versus an inner glottal space. The latter would have made room for both the lower proceeding chest note and the top note. Callas certainly made the most of this tortured system of text in this arias composition [1958 live perf -NOT the studio where it’s lightened) and it’s completely a highlight of the entire aria in many ways. Others like : Zeani 1971 Bucharest, Tebaldi earlier recording nail it .....However it’s often run over.

    • @MrLuis85698
      @MrLuis85698 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Daniel Raphael hard to top tebaldi in this role

  • @GaryNReese
    @GaryNReese 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nessuno può cantarlo meglio.

    • @francescopaterlini8520
      @francescopaterlini8520 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A parte la divina

    • @bodiloto
      @bodiloto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gary N. Reese
      non e' vero .
      dal vivo vocalità piccolina ...
      una registrazione sovente e' una registrazione dolce ...
      e poi la pronuncia ...
      il vecchio

    • @fabriziogarzi9892
      @fabriziogarzi9892 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@francescopaterlini8520sopratutto la Divina.

  • @szilvia2080
    @szilvia2080 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Le vanità, no „la vanità”.
    Tu che le vanità conoscesti del mondo
    E godi nell'avel il riposo profondo,
    Se ancor si piange in cielo, piangi sul mio dolor,
    E porta il pianto mio al trono del Signor.

  • @draganvidic2039
    @draganvidic2039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It says soprano lirico here (about Freni) which is true.
    Role is for a dramatic soprano.
    It still sounded reasonably good though she pushed her voice beyond its natural limitations...

  • @leonoradelagardie
    @leonoradelagardie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The great Freni is probably more at home with Mimi than with Elisabetta.

    • @draganvidic2039
      @draganvidic2039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Leonora de la Gardie
      Of course since she was a lyric...
      She nevertheless managed to push it into the spinto roles.
      Listen to her live Nanetta from 1963 where she still sang naturally.

    • @xavieralberto1176
      @xavieralberto1176 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And she is a very convincing Elisabeth!

  • @arnaudrcs
    @arnaudrcs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    may be a heavy role for her... but good enough

    • @golden-63
      @golden-63 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A bit, but intelligently sung.

  • @antoniomartinazzo5847
    @antoniomartinazzo5847 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some more volume and warmth in the low passages would not go amiss. Beautiful diction, though.

  • @cubanm81
    @cubanm81 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..........................................

  • @fabriziogarzi9892
    @fabriziogarzi9892 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quanto di piu' lontano dal rappresentare Elisabetta di Valois.

  • @すじこといくら
    @すじこといくら ปีที่แล้ว

    1:57

  • @MrOlogramma
    @MrOlogramma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    in this aria only CALLAS

    • @rossmerchant8435
      @rossmerchant8435 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no complete recording of Callas in this role. Should we therefore never listen to this opera at all?

    • @BaroneVitellioScarpia1
      @BaroneVitellioScarpia1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree with you. But unfortunately the full opera of her Don Carlo is not recorded...

    • @davideferrari5702
      @davideferrari5702 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bastaaaaaa....

  • @rogalesi58
    @rogalesi58 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nell 'insieme ok

  • @voiceofwisdom1
    @voiceofwisdom1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Freni sings beautifully here, but she is frightfully short of breath: "Il pianto - BREATH - mio, porta al trono - BREATH - del signor

  • @babydrane
    @babydrane 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    valiant effort but her voice is too light.

    • @draganvidic2039
      @draganvidic2039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      babydrane
      Correct, still sounding fresh here, despite not being her true voice fach.

  • @giancarloparis1759
    @giancarloparis1759 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bravissima però la signora Scotto pur con i sui difettucci ha un fraseggio e una postura regale come il personaggio richiede... la signora Freni è sempre un po' casalinga.

    • @GaryNReese
      @GaryNReese 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Why don't you go and say something nice about Scotto on a page where Scotto sings? Don't know why people feel so important saying nasty things about singers and comparing them to others when they really don't know what they're talking about.

    • @bodiloto
      @bodiloto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Giancarlo Paris
      la Scotto aveva la voce del soprano lirico leggero ...

    • @MrLuis85698
      @MrLuis85698 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gary N. Reese Gary , we can't change people minds , the only thing we can do is trying to educate them .. but the rest is diversity

    • @giancarloparis1759
      @giancarloparis1759 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GaryNReese sorry. i'm stupid. I was rude

    • @fabriziogarzi9892
      @fabriziogarzi9892 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@giancarloparis1759no, no, hai perfettamente ragione.

  • @ransomcoates546
    @ransomcoates546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    La voce non ha forza sufficiente per questo ruolo.

  • @matematicamathmatematicasm1501
    @matematicamathmatematicasm1501 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sublime