"Fixed a bug where Siege Cascade was targeting Vine Arrow plants and Frostwall Ice Crystals." - patch 0.1.1 RIP Siege Cascade Chronomancer, you will be missed :'( ... and there I was on my levelling sorc, level 64, just one level before the swap. Good thing I haven't shopped for gear yet...
@ on the bright side: they added SSF migrations, so I can finally migrate my ailment gemling, who hasn’t found a Three Dragons despite being played since release.
Same :( I'd just bought the weapons and a crazy ring for it a few hours ago, guess I'm lucky I didn't sink more into it. RIP, it was an inspiring build.
just finished campaign with my chronomancer currently leveling in maps, having a lot of fun, ty for this build Lazy Exile its very unique and off meta, love it having so much fun ^^ I anointed Instant Reload - to counter the downside of the rampart raptor, also using couple emerald jewels with increased reload speed, currently at 0.59seconds on reload time, i just hold my right mouse button in and just run around, no waiting around for reload which is awesome can highly recommend :D Thank you again Lazy, cant wait to see what build you cook next :)
Finally finished camping with my new character and changed to this build and its so beautiful, I still need to level up to get into the full build (am lvl 64 rn) but its so good, thanks!
While I'm a little sad to see yet another HoWA build, props to you for using something like Rampant Raptor! This version looks pretty incredible, nicely done Lazy!
I think HOWA is justified in this case, using something else to scale damage so you can use the Unique's weapons people think are bad is good design in my opinion, It just sucks HOWA feels like the only way to do this currently, which is killing build variety
Great guide, well put together. You should live stream on twitch and try further grow your audience, youd be a great creator in the poe space i am sure
I appreciated that. I don’t have any plan so far because I’m still working a job. I also don’t feel like a have the eloquence that streamers do, and don’t see myself talking for 8 hours 😅😅
Love this build Lazy! but I wanted to mention for anyone who switched over right after campaign and is dying or finding siege not accurate enough: try using Frost Wall with Fortress, Spell Cascade, and Glacier. it feels WAY safer and you can easily target enemies with siege while keeping them at bay
Whelp you got me to level 83 with this build. R.I.P. I guess they really do hate the chronomancer. "You will play stormweaver Sparkmage and like it!". Hoping you can big brain 200 IQ this and salvage the build but even mapping now is rough with juiced maps and some tanky rare mobs. Just sit there and rain singular shots on em forever until they fall or kill you. 😥
Firstly, thanks for the awesome build. Super excited to try this out. One thing to note though. I am making this swap at lvl 69 on my sorc but...the cost is nowhere near 10 div. In buying the gear from scratch as I had a different build.... In the current market for roughly the same or worse gear. The jewelry was 2-3 each. Good luck getting the HoWa for less than 2 div. Not to mention the cost of armor (2-4 div pending how much ES you want)/boots around 1-2 div (can budget this if you forego FRW) /circlet(around a div). So all in all 12-18 divine orbs. This was with me searching offline sellers as well.
you can get stuff going for less than 10 divs: - each jewels with increased area of effect + 1 of the desired mod is around: 15-20ex - xbow - 1-10ex - HoWA - 4 div - Rings - 1 div each - ES gears (get cheap stuff - 20-30ex should works) - Amulet - 1 div I transitioned from the previous build and it was working decently with just HoWA and the swapped passive trees (didn't even change my jewels)
@@LazyExile i bought literally the same gear (as close as i could get) as in your vid pausing when you hovered to get the stats. I missed out on 5% light res but it was just impossible to get. Maybe budget gear wouldve cost less but as it stands i still only have like 4k ES so i think im missing something in the passive tree. Hope it works out tho. Thanks for the reply as always!
Any idea what we can do for single targets after the nerf? I can't believe that despite all of the broken interactions out there, they went after this one. After explicitly saying there wouldn't be skill nerfs.
sick build. rampart raptor is going to be the quillrain of crossbows lol, can see it in CoC set ups using rapid shot, maybe even an elemental expression build on invoker lol.
Just getting to end game and about to switch, don't have HOWA, and can't afford it yet, so I'll have to do the budget build. How important is vine arrow now that they have announced the patch? And thanks for the great content, very well laid out guides, and enjoyable. Cheers.
It was such a fun build. Sadly ggg is bunch of monk-archer-spark jerkers and want us play one of 3-4 exact same meta build. Hope you could figure out how to make this build work cuz otherwise there is no point having crippled chronomancer. Sadly this build will most likely become just another plasma blast + chockburst. If only plasma blast scaled with cast speed.
After the nerf I took most of this build/gear and pivoted straight into lightning arrow. It lets you skip strength and focus entirely on dex and int which works well for HoWA, so I feel like it could have good potential. I'm currently testing the waters and easily clearing T13 maps while getting some levels. It'll probably never be as strong as a normal Lightning Arrow Deadeye, but time freeze into orb of storms + lightning rod does feel good so far. I've taken inspiration from Fubgun and Raxx for lighting arrow related weapons, passives and skills. I'm currently using Widowhail with a mediocre quiver, but I'm thinking of elemental focused dualstring bow with increased projectiles in the future. I'd invite anyone else to explore this potential as well.
please make some sort of new version with a new solution for single target lol. i love this build so much im so upset they removed the vine interaction.
No buffs and nerfs but instead it’s labeled under bug fixes. Good one,GGG. Game feels super boring and mundane with HOWA stat stacking and spark archmage builds that dominates everything while fun builds get bricked instantly
Heyo, im playing ur setup but on my deadeye and its being pretty good! Great build! tysm for the content, i tried to build towards this skill a while ago and failed XD
Sad that vine arrows and frostwalls got nerfed for boss content. But I believe the deadeye lightning arrow setup should also work for bosses. Lightning Rod (for Dmg) + Cast on Shock (Ball Lightning + to Trigger Lightning Rod) + Orb of Storms (also to Trigger Lightning Rod) + Thiefs torment (for Mana on Hit to sustain the millions of Ball Lightnings) With HoWA, a good DPS Bow and Quiver, and the 400+ int the build has, the boss should also die during the time freeze.
Patch 0.1.1 just ruined the consept around this build... Patch note: "Fixed a bug where Siege Cascade was targeting Vine Arrow plants and Frostwall Ice Crystals." :(
Given the amount of slow and time freeze that chronomancer provide i am playing around with plasma blast. It makes it easier to charge up when the enemies are slow to reach you
very creative skill manipulation, you should link up your twitch channel for each video, you can maybe just try to stream weekends, im sure you can amass a following, thanks for sharing your build!
@LazyExile I was wondering how do you use Time Freeze with all of your weapon set 2 passives? I can't seem to change Time Freeze to be used with weapon set 2? The only option I see is "Always Attack Without Moving" Any advice would be helpful. Thank you
mobs should be kinda slow, and you should just kill them no? build is never meant for tanking, you should avoid stuff, and shield will prevent one shot
I swapped to this build like 2 days ago, played it for a day and they nerfed it. Are you still going to cook on this build after the patch drops or do you think its just dead? Was fun while it lasted I guess. Felt really good to play.
Exact same situation with me. I pivoted like 3 days ago, spent all my money doing it. Have stuff for sale I guess but it takes time to sell. For me only other thing to pivot to is the hammer of the gods build, but its definitely meh compared to this build, to me anyways.
most of the stuff you invest, can be pivot to pillar stat stacker, but I'll wait for the patch drop to make an upgrade. What a bummer, I was really enjoying this build too
Out of curiosity, which of your crossbow builds are you having more fun with? This or your merc? This looks WILDLY cool and I'm excited to try it out, but I was curious which is more fun to play the game with. :)
Simply - Wow! I need more learn english to comment your content🙂 How do you think is this possible to level witch with this build? I mean switch to siege cascade at 58 lvl. Or without HOWA need to use your previous version with frost wall? UPD: Oh, written guide there is. I was so fast because impressed
did the siege cascade change not being able to target vine arrow kill the boss dmg on this build?, from the patch today: Fixed a bug where Siege Cascade was targeting Vine Arrow plants and Frostwall Ice Crystals.
I made an update to the build guide, now suggesting you should get 2 emerald jewels with 20% reload speed to compensate for the crossbow. It should make mapping a bit better
8:45 you want "HoT to kill" but you have culling in emergency reload 7:37, isn't it kinda overlap? also if i take out HoT, will it affect the DPS? in the BOSS showcase looks like Siege Cascade already wiping the Enemy and HoT not really doin anything
You have to watch and understand the reason, HoT doesn’t have to kill everything and Emergency Reload doesn’t have 100% uptime. Also if you want to swap gem for bosses, feel free to put attrition in and turn off HoT
Haven’t die once or get one shotted, but if you stand in a lot of effect you might. Taking out grim feast in the HoWA setup might be ok since you sustain your ES pretty well
Love your build but i have one question , is it normal that not having evasion and armour ? I just into endgame with your build and having some issue with survival
the trade off is having a huge pool of ES with grim feast, and when you get enough damage you just kill everything before they get to you. Also generally, unless you're full evasion base, having armour and evasion + life is won't be as good as CI + ES, at least in the current state of the game.
try using Frost Wall with Fortress, Spell Cascade, and Glacier. it feels WAY safer and you can easily target enemies with siege while keeping them at bay
Amazing build! I've tried the HoWA set up and it's really busted with Rampant. However, it's really killing my PC, so I went back to using rare crossbow and frost wall for clearing. Any chance to incorporate a variant with HoWA without rampant to the guide for those that are not willing to risk their PC's life? Thank you so much !
@@LazyExile Noted! My current issue is that i can't seem to chain my heralds so clear is a bit slow. I think I'm not dealing enough cold damage as we are stacking lightning with HoWA. Tried to add flat cold in my weapon and ring, but it still not enough to freeze. It was easily doable with my Invoker since Invoker has passives to add % extra cold damage. Might need to use Polcekiln but that would make me lose an attribute ring. Any tips?
Nevermind, I followed the passive tree from the double herald variant instead of the HoWA tree (still using the HoWa) and modify a bit and it seems to solve the issue. Thanks!
@blondiwithstyle thx the only way I had been able to get it to work previously was with pin via physical damage is now pinning support. Didn't think that other cc would count as well
@@LazyExile ty! Is it obvious I am diablo player poking around aimlessly with poe2 lol. Still not used to tooltips giving valuable (or even correct) information
you're missing a lot of skill effects, they are taken on the passive skills tree (the green line represent the weapon set 2 skill points), and whenever you swap to your 2nd weapon, it'll activate, and you will have more skill effect duration
you just need to make sure you're holding the bow (which is in the weapon slot 2) and it should count. You can also open the skill details and look to make sure
if you want to optimize, you can do that I guess. Dex is pretty good too because it gives attack speed and we double dip the dex - attack speed on the passive skills tree as well.
For the budget build is it worth while investing more into the herald damage nodes? over say elemental damage etc? i tried the HoWAbuild too but does so much less dmg for me as I cant seem to get my herald of ligniting to proc im lvl 74. Any ideas?
I did invest some points in herald node, but I think it might be worth to invest in herald damage and AoE as well. I’ll wait for the patch and will update it. For the HoWA version, make sure you have conduction in Siege Cascade
I would not get MoM because defensively we are so strong already. We have good ES with Grim Feast, we have good sustain with Shock Siphon, and everything is slow, time freeze, etc, so overall its very safe
Reached lvl 90 with this character, did the campaign with widowhail/quivers and I have to say it's been an absolute blast this far. Completely destroying T4 Xesht before he even has time to move. Mainly playing breaches with high monsters density and the screen wide clearspeed is amazing, you made the perfect build for me, thank you very much for sharing it with us!! Can't wait to see the future improvements!
you would be missing out on damage, I'm not sure if it would feels good before grabbing all those lightning damage nodes, but you can work your way up then its fine. Don't go into T15 right away
Hello, thanks for your video, i just rush a Chronomancer after this :D I have a problem with siege cascade, i cant use it, i'm stupid or i miss something ? Maybe both btw lol
it's not a spell, you need to equip a crossbow use siege cascade as an attack. So you have to bind the skill to the crossbow attack. The normal skill is for you to load the siege cascade ammo, not to shoot
Is this version better than the vine arrow one? I made a chronomancer and made it to level 80 using vine arrow, but sometimes I struggle to clear mobs quick enough because they destroy my frost walls very quickly
@LazyExile Time to respec then 😅. Btw thanks Lazy, your videos are so good how you explain every aspect of the builds you make, and I love how they are always off-meta but so effective, you're my favourite POE TH-camr, thank you so much!
How does system not lag/freeze frame from all that during a Breach? I have a 3080 and 5800x, but my game just doesn't like it when I do T15+ breaches. Lags me out, freezes the screen so I die and I've even been kicked back to Character Select multiple times. I gave up on Breaches with how unstable it gets.
Hi i change to your howa build, not so good at the moment lvl 81, without jewlery, can you Tell me the level of your buffs, die you level this at maximum?
my jewelry in this video kinda sucks, to make HoWA version better, you want 2x good breach ring with flat damage, howa, xbow and that's it. It should works at lv 81
How to Shock enermy with this build ? I use Rampant Raptor and 2 x rings with 80+ lighting dmg to attack but Herald of thunder never trigger. need to use Siege Cascade x 20 times to clear 1 group of monster. or I need 400 int (now at 170 int) to buff dmg = more shock ? any advice for me I love to play with this cool build but It's don't work for me (Lv.82 rn)
overwhelming presence should also help the shock chance, you can see that mobs around me are getting shock, electrocute so it's definitely working for me, and it's my exact setup
My build is complete minus so passive tree points. i dont seem to be getting the duration on skills like yours not sure what ive missed. Build is fun though
my spirit is not anything particular, all aura is pretty much active on both weapon. For the duration on the skill, you want to set it up for weapon set 2, and whenever you cast time freeze, swap to your weapon slot 2 to benefits from all the increased skill effect duration nodes.
the slow and time freeze is invaluable imo.. it adds major protection on your character and as OP said in previous video, the slow helps seige hit the target even when walking.
"Fixed a bug where Siege Cascade was targeting Vine Arrow plants and Frostwall Ice Crystals." - patch 0.1.1
RIP Siege Cascade Chronomancer, you will be missed :'( ... and there I was on my levelling sorc, level 64, just one level before the swap. Good thing I haven't shopped for gear yet...
Yeah same thing, I was having so much fun too :(
was kinda hoping it didn't die before the balance patch, but they decided to take it out now. Oh well, all good things come to an end i suppose
@ on the bright side: they added SSF migrations, so I can finally migrate my ailment gemling, who hasn’t found a Three Dragons despite being played since release.
Same :(
I'd just bought the weapons and a crazy ring for it a few hours ago, guess I'm lucky I didn't sink more into it. RIP, it was an inspiring build.
GG 20Dy...
just finished campaign with my chronomancer currently leveling in maps, having a lot of fun, ty for this build Lazy Exile its very unique and off meta, love it having so much fun ^^
I anointed Instant Reload - to counter the downside of the rampart raptor, also using couple emerald jewels with increased reload speed, currently at 0.59seconds on reload time, i just hold my right mouse button in and just run around, no waiting around for reload which is awesome can highly recommend :D
Thank you again Lazy, cant wait to see what build you cook next :)
0.59 seconds? I have 1 seconds, wow! it must felt pretty nice I might actually try that haha
R you using HOWA?
yes
This build is so awesome, I'm excited to try it out once I have off of work! Gonna speed level a chrono for this
Have fun!
Finally finished camping with my new character and changed to this build and its so beautiful, I still need to level up to get into the full build (am lvl 64 rn) but its so good, thanks!
Awesome! Have fun 🤩
Damn, every time I see one of your videos I always get the "woah, that's a giga brain move!"- feeling.
Haha thanks! 😆
Awesome build, I've been having a lot of fun using it. Nice to see a different way of playing chronomancer.
Hey, thanks!
While I'm a little sad to see yet another HoWA build, props to you for using something like Rampant Raptor! This version looks pretty incredible, nicely done Lazy!
Thank you 😊 Rampart Raptor gives a lot of QoL actually, its kinda nice
I think HOWA is justified in this case, using something else to scale damage so you can use the Unique's weapons people think are bad is good design in my opinion, It just sucks HOWA feels like the only way to do this currently, which is killing build variety
@ I agree completely
its not really surprising as howa really is op and probably the best gloves in the game rn
Eventually, we’ll have other way to scale damage, but such is the state of build making right now
Great guide, well put together. You should live stream on twitch and try further grow your audience, youd be a great creator in the poe space i am sure
I appreciated that. I don’t have any plan so far because I’m still working a job.
I also don’t feel like a have the eloquence that streamers do, and don’t see myself talking for 8 hours 😅😅
Love this build Lazy! but I wanted to mention for anyone who switched over right after campaign and is dying or finding siege not accurate enough: try using Frost Wall with Fortress, Spell Cascade, and Glacier. it feels WAY safer and you can easily target enemies with siege while keeping them at bay
that's what I personally do as well and I felt the same
I absolutely love that you used Rampart because I was just thinking the same thing when I watch your last video.
yes I got a few suggestions from my commenters, and also have an idea on trying it out as well
Nice, it looks exactly as good and fun as i thought it would look !
It’s a lot of fun 😆
I like how you show up the build. And really love your voice
wow, thanks 😊
Your voice broke me 😂
Whelp you got me to level 83 with this build. R.I.P. I guess they really do hate the chronomancer. "You will play stormweaver Sparkmage and like it!". Hoping you can big brain 200 IQ this and salvage the build but even mapping now is rough with juiced maps and some tanky rare mobs. Just sit there and rain singular shots on em forever until they fall or kill you. 😥
Great guide and an interesting build. Thank you )
My pleasure!😇
So refreshing seeing a Chronomancer build, love the content!
More to come!
Firstly, thanks for the awesome build. Super excited to try this out. One thing to note though. I am making this swap at lvl 69 on my sorc but...the cost is nowhere near 10 div. In buying the gear from scratch as I had a different build.... In the current market for roughly the same or worse gear. The jewelry was 2-3 each. Good luck getting the HoWa for less than 2 div. Not to mention the cost of armor (2-4 div pending how much ES you want)/boots around 1-2 div (can budget this if you forego FRW) /circlet(around a div). So all in all 12-18 divine orbs. This was with me searching offline sellers as well.
you can get stuff going for less than 10 divs:
- each jewels with increased area of effect + 1 of the desired mod is around: 15-20ex
- xbow - 1-10ex
- HoWA - 4 div
- Rings - 1 div each
- ES gears (get cheap stuff - 20-30ex should works)
- Amulet - 1 div
I transitioned from the previous build and it was working decently with just HoWA and the swapped passive trees (didn't even change my jewels)
@@LazyExile i bought literally the same gear (as close as i could get) as in your vid pausing when you hovered to get the stats. I missed out on 5% light res but it was just impossible to get. Maybe budget gear wouldve cost less but as it stands i still only have like 4k ES so i think im missing something in the passive tree. Hope it works out tho. Thanks for the reply as always!
oh yea my gear is a bit more expensive, but it's still far cheaper than other stat stackers out there for sure xD didn't even have Ingenuity
This is actually an amazing build, lol. Good job!
Glad you like it!
You rock exile!!! Keep up these great videos!! 💪😎🔥🔥🔥
Thanks! 😤😤 I’ll try
Any idea what we can do for single targets after the nerf? I can't believe that despite all of the broken interactions out there, they went after this one. After explicitly saying there wouldn't be skill nerfs.
caught me off guard there as well, imagine lightning conduit survive the patch and spark get to have fun xD will make an update after the patch
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have fun! thanks for watching 😊
Thanks for sharing gonna try this out today!
it was nerfed! Check out my lastest videos, this particular single-target damage setup is not in the game anymore
sick build.
rampart raptor is going to be the quillrain of crossbows lol, can see it in CoC set ups using rapid shot, maybe even an elemental expression build on invoker lol.
now if only it has better base damage :D GGG pls
Just getting to end game and about to switch, don't have HOWA, and can't afford it yet, so I'll have to do the budget build. How important is vine arrow now that they have announced the patch? And thanks for the great content, very well laid out guides, and enjoyable. Cheers.
vine arrow is basically everything we have to single target damage, and frostwall is the backup plan, they kinda nerf both lol
@@LazyExile ah nuts, thats ok, im excited to try it and im sure something will work out. Thanks for the reply and great content.
@Jeetkunedoh do not even bother trying it at this point, the nerf was so bad the build is unplayable now
It was such a fun build. Sadly ggg is bunch of monk-archer-spark jerkers and want us play one of 3-4 exact same meta build. Hope you could figure out how to make this build work cuz otherwise there is no point having crippled chronomancer. Sadly this build will most likely become just another plasma blast + chockburst. If only plasma blast scaled with cast speed.
aoe map clear is still fine, I love it, but single-target is not salvageable sadly
Really good guide! Thank you
You’re welcome!
After the nerf I took most of this build/gear and pivoted straight into lightning arrow. It lets you skip strength and focus entirely on dex and int which works well for HoWA, so I feel like it could have good potential.
I'm currently testing the waters and easily clearing T13 maps while getting some levels. It'll probably never be as strong as a normal Lightning Arrow Deadeye, but time freeze into orb of storms + lightning rod does feel good so far. I've taken inspiration from Fubgun and Raxx for lighting arrow related weapons, passives and skills. I'm currently using Widowhail with a mediocre quiver, but I'm thinking of elemental focused dualstring bow with increased projectiles in the future. I'd invite anyone else to explore this potential as well.
Yup, made an updated video to kinda cover this quickly after the patch. You can take a look!
Very nice job ! I am sure ggg would be proud to see that players can come up with builds like this one, it is just unique :) well done !
Thank you very much!
Does the patch brick this build now? "Fixed a bug where Siege Cascade was targeting Vine Arrow plants and Frostwall Ice Crystals."
not completely brick as we didn't need vine arrow for bossing anyway. For pinnacle bosses, we'll have to find a way
@LazyExile Mind clarifying? My single target damage is absolute booty, and I'm running T9 rolls on my breach rings
made an update on this
dude i really invested a lot in this build, is there any way we could swap the vine arrows with to kill bosses after the patch 😅
nothing will come close, but I'm going to see what we can do
Thank you! This build is awesome! How are you dealing with the weapon swap bug in this version though?
Apparently, its a hideout thing only, and it works in map without the bug
@@LazyExile Ohh that is awesome, thanks so much! I was playing an Arc/Lightning Conduit build before and I'm having a lot more fun with your setup!
thats awesome! enjoy!
@@LazyExile You're awesome, you enjoy too! :>
Great guide, enjoyed this
Thanks!
please make some sort of new version with a new solution for single target lol. i love this build so much im so upset they removed the vine interaction.
me too! hopefully I can release the video today
No buffs and nerfs but instead it’s labeled under bug fixes. Good one,GGG.
Game feels super boring and mundane with HOWA stat stacking and spark archmage builds that dominates everything while fun builds get bricked instantly
i know, it's very sad :(
@@LazyExile please dont stop what you are doing! Alot of us are waiting for the next gigabrain build from you!
Heyo, im playing ur setup but on my deadeye and its being pretty good! Great build! tysm for the content, i tried to build towards this skill a while ago and failed XD
No problem 👍it should works on deadeye as well, but be aware that the extra proj doesn't work for Siege Cascade
Great build as always! Hope it survives the nerfs 😂
Reckoning day tomorrow
Sad that vine arrows and frostwalls got nerfed for boss content.
But I believe the deadeye lightning arrow setup should also work for bosses.
Lightning Rod (for Dmg) + Cast on Shock (Ball Lightning + to Trigger Lightning Rod) + Orb of Storms (also to Trigger Lightning Rod) + Thiefs torment (for Mana on Hit to sustain the millions of Ball Lightnings)
With HoWA, a good DPS Bow and Quiver, and the 400+ int the build has, the boss should also die during the time freeze.
idk how lightning rod, lightning conduit, bell and other stuff survive, and GGG have to nerf this first, I guess they only watch jungroan and ruetoo
But does it look cool like Crossbow orbital strike?
nothing will come close to it
Patch 0.1.1 just ruined the consept around this build... Patch note: "Fixed a bug where Siege Cascade was targeting Vine Arrow plants and Frostwall Ice Crystals." :(
Vine Arrow I understand, but Frostwall too? xD
@@LazyExilecan't wait for this build's salvation! Kudos to you lady exile. We know you'll find a workaround. :)
I just got a variation of the build up and running. It's not all bad though. It just needs a new solution for dealing with single target situations.
Given the amount of slow and time freeze that chronomancer provide i am playing around with plasma blast. It makes it easier to charge up when the enemies are slow to reach you
@@danielkristensen2256 what are your socketed skills in plasma blast mate? I am trying it right now and seems viable!
cant wait for the updated version after the patch D:
very creative skill manipulation, you should link up your twitch channel for each video, you can maybe just try to stream weekends, im sure you can amass a following, thanks for sharing your build!
Thanks for the advice, maybe I’ll do that when I have everything setup! Thanks 😊
@LazyExile I was wondering how do you use Time Freeze with all of your weapon set 2 passives? I can't seem to change Time Freeze to be used with weapon set 2? The only option I see is "Always Attack Without Moving" Any advice would be helpful. Thank you
you manually swap weapon for that, by doing the rotation with vine arrow, you should be in your weapon set 2 passive skills tree already.
I'm having serious survivability issues. Siege Cascade shots are inaccurate, and I can't tank effectively with 4k shield
mobs should be kinda slow, and you should just kill them no? build is never meant for tanking, you should avoid stuff, and shield will prevent one shot
Build looks sick , but you and I have different definitions of mid budget :D
if budget = 1 div, then mid-budget is 10 div right?
The bug has been fixed, so how should we handle boss damage now?
New build sadly :(
sadly boss damage is gone, but aoe mapping is still fun at least
Very creative build ! I was trying to make siege cascade work on witchhunter but sadly can't see it do well on bossing without time freeze
You should have a lot more damage than chronomancer right?
I swapped to this build like 2 days ago, played it for a day and they nerfed it. Are you still going to cook on this build after the patch drops or do you think its just dead? Was fun while it lasted I guess. Felt really good to play.
Really is a shame. I invested 15+ div into it, and now I have no idea where to pivot.
Exact same situation with me. I pivoted like 3 days ago, spent all my money doing it. Have stuff for sale I guess but it takes time to sell. For me only other thing to pivot to is the hammer of the gods build, but its definitely meh compared to this build, to me anyways.
most of the stuff you invest, can be pivot to pillar stat stacker, but I'll wait for the patch drop to make an upgrade. What a bummer, I was really enjoying this build too
@@schism3472I respecced into spark completely for 30ex.
Out of curiosity, which of your crossbow builds are you having more fun with? This or your merc? This looks WILDLY cool and I'm excited to try it out, but I was curious which is more fun to play the game with. :)
Definitely having a blast on chronomancer for sure!
Bruh I might love this build
it's a really fun off-meta build! 😆
Simply - Wow! I need more learn english to comment your content🙂 How do you think is this possible to level witch with this build? I mean switch to siege cascade at 58 lvl. Or without HOWA need to use your previous version with frost wall?
UPD: Oh, written guide there is. I was so fast because impressed
you can do without HoWA in the beginning, and leveling will need a different build honestly. Swap at level 65 to be more comfortable
You really cooked with this build, unfortunately GGG were not hungry 😥
they killed the frostwall as well, they are definitely not hungry
this is so gg lady ,, u make me sign in youtube ,,, put like n share .. XD
haha thanks :D
How's the bossing like WITHOUT vine arrow, in the scenario that GGG does do something about that interaction?
it would say it's much worst, but you can always use frost wall. It's not the same though, but until then, vine arrow is just the best option
i think HoWA is going to first on the chopping block
Patch note out soon so we dont have to guess
Hi LAzy, do you think this build can get nerf with the patch later? planning to follow this guide.
just wait for the patch, it's coming soon
Do you plan to update somehow this build after the patch? Just completed the campaign and acquired a Howa xD
hopefully today!
@@LazyExile Will be tuned! Will be leveling more meanwhile with your leveling setup as well
I did get a video out on the current version after patch :D
Thank you so much :)
You’re welcome 😊
did the siege cascade change not being able to target vine arrow kill the boss dmg on this build?, from the patch today: Fixed a bug where Siege Cascade was targeting Vine Arrow plants and Frostwall Ice Crystals.
yea the vine arrow interaction is gone, so we'll have to think of something else lol
Not sure if i missed this but what jewels are you using and how fast are you reloading?
I asume you have something for reloading in the gems?
I made an update to the build guide, now suggesting you should get 2 emerald jewels with 20% reload speed to compensate for the crossbow. It should make mapping a bit better
@@LazyExile thnx for the quick response. Was able to build that howa setup. So good. Looking forward to your next builds
8:45 you want "HoT to kill" but you have culling in emergency reload 7:37, isn't it kinda overlap?
also if i take out HoT, will it affect the DPS? in the BOSS showcase looks like Siege Cascade already wiping the Enemy and HoT not really doin anything
You have to watch and understand the reason, HoT doesn’t have to kill everything and Emergency Reload doesn’t have 100% uptime. Also if you want to swap gem for bosses, feel free to put attrition in and turn off HoT
@@LazyExile thanks for the answer, some other question if u don't mind, How often you get one shoted? is taking out grim feast would be problem?
Haven’t die once or get one shotted, but if you stand in a lot of effect you might. Taking out grim feast in the HoWA setup might be ok since you sustain your ES pretty well
Love your build but i have one question , is it normal that not having evasion and armour ? I just into endgame with your build and having some issue with survival
the trade off is having a huge pool of ES with grim feast, and when you get enough damage you just kill everything before they get to you. Also generally, unless you're full evasion base, having armour and evasion + life is won't be as good as CI + ES, at least in the current state of the game.
try using Frost Wall with Fortress, Spell Cascade, and Glacier. it feels WAY safer and you can easily target enemies with siege while keeping them at bay
@@LazyExile thank you so much :)
Amazing build! I've tried the HoWA set up and it's really busted with Rampant. However, it's really killing my PC, so I went back to using rare crossbow and frost wall for clearing. Any chance to incorporate a variant with HoWA without rampant to the guide for those that are not willing to risk their PC's life? Thank you so much !
You can run a rare xbow with this variant
@@LazyExile Noted! My current issue is that i can't seem to chain my heralds so clear is a bit slow. I think I'm not dealing enough cold damage as we are stacking lightning with HoWA. Tried to add flat cold in my weapon and ring, but it still not enough to freeze. It was easily doable with my Invoker since Invoker has passives to add % extra cold damage. Might need to use Polcekiln but that would make me lose an attribute ring. Any tips?
in this setup we're not running herald of ice
Nevermind, I followed the passive tree from the double herald variant instead of the HoWA tree (still using the HoWa) and modify a bit and it seems to solve the issue. Thanks!
@@ihdewarp good job working it out!
do you have any tips for mapping on the mire layout. my frost walls dont expand on the bridges and the seige cascade sometimes wont go across it.
it's quite annoying, but it's doable, you just need to be in melee range
I don't wanna lvl a fourth char at this point but this looks so fun...are pinning and time stop only two ways to trigger "immobilized" in poe 2?
stun, freeze and electrocute should work as well?
@blondiwithstyle thx the only way I had been able to get it to work previously was with pin via physical damage is now pinning support. Didn't think that other cc would count as well
You can hover the Immoblized and it should show you the tooltip listed everything. But yes, like blondi said, stun, freeze, electrocute
@@LazyExile ty! Is it obvious I am diablo player poking around aimlessly with poe2 lol. Still not used to tooltips giving valuable (or even correct) information
awesome build, having fun with it on lvl 67. However, my time freeze only 4 sec with recommended gems - what am I missing?
you're missing a lot of skill effects, they are taken on the passive skills tree (the green line represent the weapon set 2 skill points), and whenever you swap to your 2nd weapon, it'll activate, and you will have more skill effect duration
On your mid budget Mobalytics use still have the cold skills any reason or just need to be updated?
Needs updated. The passive tree in this video is different.
it's for weapon set 2, and you only take it for Harsh Winter, which give 16% increased Skill Effect Duration
instead of vine arrow, can we use glacial bolt that create ice objects so we dont weapon swap?
you won't be able to achieve what you can in this video with glacial bolt, but you definitely can do that
When following the passive tree planner what do the green and red color directions means?
the red means that it's the weapon set 1 skill, and green is the weapon set 2 skill
you honestly might be the best poe 2 player in the world
There are way better theorycrafter,s players than me but I appreciated that 😊
@@LazyExile what do you take for the venome viles in the acts
i took mana regen and +5 all attributes
@@LazyExile i fixed it, which build setup for the siege cascade do you prefer for mapping and bossing ? howa or the mid budget setup?
sorry, or the other build?
fellow chrono here, great video!
Hey, thanks!
I will try this on my sorc, but need to finish my gemling first.
I would like to ask if this build viable for infernalist?
you'll have to work out the detail yourself, but it might, there are a lot of unexplored stuff
Swapped to the build and on first pull it crashed my game which honestly makes it even better
might wanna hold off a bit on your trigger button because it's pumping out too much deeps xD
How does this build go at higher tier maps? This build looks awesome and might give it ago if does well in that area
it shreds... all contents, what I did in the showcase was a breach t4, ilvl 82 mobs, and they are very tanky
@LazyExile Awesome ill work it together today and try it out, Thanks for the reply, will let you know how it goes.
Good Job! Strong Video!
Very stonk indeed
Nice laid out guide!
thanks!
so what damage are you doing mostly to the boss, is it lightning?
yes it's HoWA, so that's mostly flat lightning damage
@@LazyExile lot of boss damage with that lightning. Thank you for the quick response
np man! enjoy 😊
Hey! Does strength on gear do anything for us here, or should I only aim for dex and int?
dex and int, just enough str to equip gem/gear
this build is get nerf in next patch please can you tell what build is make now frens, can there a way to use this after nerf
still a really good map clearing skill, but for single-target damage, we don't have a lot of options beside glacial bolt
@LazyExile oh ok, can you tell a bit how to modify it a bit for boss dps also, build is very good, and thanks for follow back
Plasma blast maybe?
@@davidluedeman8360 oh it good?
So for time freeze it's not letting me choose which weapon set uses it? How do you make sire you use it with weapon set 2 for all the increases?
you just need to make sure you're holding the bow (which is in the weapon slot 2) and it should count. You can also open the skill details and look to make sure
Is it better to increase Intelligence a lot in passive even when using a skill with low Dexterity requirement?
if you want to optimize, you can do that I guess. Dex is pretty good too because it gives attack speed and we double dip the dex - attack speed on the passive skills tree as well.
For the budget build is it worth while investing more into the herald damage nodes? over say elemental damage etc?
i tried the HoWAbuild too but does so much less dmg for me as I cant seem to get my herald of ligniting to proc im lvl 74. Any ideas?
I did invest some points in herald node, but I think it might be worth to invest in herald damage and AoE as well. I’ll wait for the patch and will update it.
For the HoWA version, make sure you have conduction in Siege Cascade
Is there any way to path towards getting Mind over Matter or is that not recommended because of how much safety Time Freeze provides?
I would not get MoM because defensively we are so strong already. We have good ES with Grim Feast, we have good sustain with Shock Siphon, and everything is slow, time freeze, etc, so overall its very safe
How do you leveling if you do it with the first character?
tbh, I haven't thought about it, but probably the same with other caster, spark + flame wall
Reached lvl 90 with this character, did the campaign with widowhail/quivers and I have to say it's been an absolute blast this far. Completely destroying T4 Xesht before he even has time to move. Mainly playing breaches with high monsters density and the screen wide clearspeed is amazing, you made the perfect build for me, thank you very much for sharing it with us!! Can't wait to see the future improvements!
thanks for sharing your experience! glad to see you're enjoying and blasting with this build :D
Can I use this build at level 52 as soon as I can wear HOWA if I already have them?
you would be missing out on damage, I'm not sure if it would feels good before grabbing all those lightning damage nodes, but you can work your way up then its fine. Don't go into T15 right away
Rolling this first thing if it survives the nerfs. If you had an 11 div budget, what would you prioritize?
HoWA + 2 breach rings (with the best flat damage, lightning % damage, and attribute (int) if possible
I was thinking of the same thing after buying Howa.
Now you see it works 😆
Hello, thanks for your video, i just rush a Chronomancer after this :D I have a problem with siege cascade, i cant use it, i'm stupid or i miss something ? Maybe both btw lol
siege cascade won't be available until level 58, you need to clear the campaign, and made teh switch
@@LazyExile I have the spell but when i try to cast, nothing happen,
it's not a spell, you need to equip a crossbow use siege cascade as an attack. So you have to bind the skill to the crossbow attack. The normal skill is for you to load the siege cascade ammo, not to shoot
@@LazyExile Lol so y i'm stupid xD Thanks, i will try it asap 😍
Can we start the leveling with Siege Cascade already?
its a level 52 skills so it's not really ideal
Is this version better than the vine arrow one? I made a chronomancer and made it to level 80 using vine arrow, but sometimes I struggle to clear mobs quick enough because they destroy my frost walls very quickly
this is the mid-budget version, it's more expensive, and it's much better
@LazyExile Time to respec then 😅. Btw thanks Lazy, your videos are so good how you explain every aspect of the builds you make, and I love how they are always off-meta but so effective, you're my favourite POE TH-camr, thank you so much!
thanks! I really appreciated that :D
Any other class can use this build? It looks really amazing
vine arrow interaction is kinda gone, but you can run this with Merc or Gemling and it should be fine as well
How does system not lag/freeze frame from all that during a Breach? I have a 3080 and 5800x, but my game just doesn't like it when I do T15+ breaches. Lags me out, freezes the screen so I die and I've even been kicked back to Character Select multiple times. I gave up on Breaches with how unstable it gets.
My PC is 4 years old, pre-built and I had to lower all the graphic settings 🤣 I’m not a computer wiz so I don’t know why you would get the crash
Hi i change to your howa build, not so good at the moment lvl 81, without jewlery, can you Tell me the level of your buffs, die you level this at maximum?
my jewelry in this video kinda sucks, to make HoWA version better, you want 2x good breach ring with flat damage, howa, xbow and that's it. It should works at lv 81
Hey, mon sort tir en cascade n'affiche aucun degat.. je ne comprend pas du coup le build ne marche pas chez moi 😭
Build was kinda nerfed if you are still using vine arrow. I made another video for patch 0.1.1
Is this vaiable without HoWa? Im more interested in ssf gameplay but this build looks fun
you can do the previous version I have, with double herald, and use it to farm T1 or T2 Xesht to try and get HoWA
@@LazyExile Awesome, thanks
would you run ingenuity belt if u had it?
yes I definitely would!
hi, how much at least spirit need when build the gear, 190 is enough ?
200 should be enough, or to be precise 198 should be safe to run my setup
well de "bug" interaction of siege cascade with vine arrow its goint to be fixed tomorrrow so what now ?
still going to be good for map, for single-target damage, back to the drawing board
How to Shock enermy with this build ? I use Rampant Raptor and 2 x rings with 80+ lighting dmg to attack but Herald of thunder never trigger. need to use Siege Cascade x 20 times to clear 1 group of monster. or I need 400 int (now at 170 int) to buff dmg = more shock ? any advice for me I love to play with this cool build but It's don't work for me (Lv.82 rn)
I'm in the same boat as well ... Herald of thunder rarely triggered.
do you have conduction for shock chance in siege cascade?
@@LazyExile yes. I follow the guide.
overwhelming presence should also help the shock chance, you can see that mobs around me are getting shock, electrocute so it's definitely working for me, and it's my exact setup
My build is complete minus so passive tree points. i dont seem to be getting the duration on skills like yours not sure what ive missed. Build is fun though
also can you show or explain your spirit skill set up
my spirit is not anything particular, all aura is pretty much active on both weapon.
For the duration on the skill, you want to set it up for weapon set 2, and whenever you cast time freeze, swap to your weapon slot 2 to benefits from all the increased skill effect duration nodes.
@LazyExile ok awesome thanks, how much spirit do you have and are you running blink? Thank you for your replies.
no I'm not running blink, I kinda touch on the spirit, and you need around 200 to run all the aura
How do i put my time freeze on weapon set two? Im on console btw it dosent let me choose it just says attack in place
sorry I don't play console, but there have to be a way to bind it
How is the boss DPS when they nuke vine arrow into oblivion tomorrow?
GGG gotta do what they gotta do I guess
@@LazyExile Ive never been happier to be wrong! :P
until the nerf patch, it's all buff now lol
it isn't be good with gemling? if we are stat stacking :D
Yes it should works with gemling, however, you are missing all the ultilities that Chronomancer have to offers
the slow and time freeze is invaluable imo.. it adds major protection on your character and as OP said in previous video, the slow helps seige hit the target even when walking.
it's really good indeed