Forza Motorsport (2023) vs Gran Turismo 7 - Nordschleife Night Comparison (Mercedes-AMG GT3)

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  • @MotoGamesTV
    @MotoGamesTV  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    Just like with P1 GTR - tricky comparison, but this time I had to use sports medium tires in GT7, because I was too fast on racing compounds.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nurburgring Nordschleife in GT6 and 7 > FM8.

    • @AbrahamBIM
      @AbrahamBIM 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      bro is flexing

  • @hugo59208
    @hugo59208 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +324

    Where GT's lighting engine(pun intended) shines,the way headlights cast light on the track is fantastic, same for the sparks

    • @KikuraKun
      @KikuraKun 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Don't forget about the moon shining

    • @evilformerlys4704
      @evilformerlys4704 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      What's crazy is GT7 headlights use more than one source, you can see this when the car bounces around or approached different level parts of the track around 6:40 on up, you can see the light intensity change when low beam and high beam converge, really evident on steep grade. PD really went in with lighting, if they had more power they'd have really went nuts. Look at the moonlight gently illuminating the skybox, Forza is invisible for some strange reason. I've never seen a pitch black sky, even in moonless nights due to our atmosphere that's impossible to see happen.

    • @sherlock_backs
      @sherlock_backs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea, the lighting cone is definitely a thousand times more detailed@@evilformerlys4704

    • @thejoker-bi4es
      @thejoker-bi4es 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@KikuraKunmoon over the castle

    • @LJ-wo1wf
      @LJ-wo1wf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also noticed that some of the track signage - the white rectangles that look the same size as speed limit signs (I know they’re not.. lol), small orange squares, etc - on the GT7 side go dark when the headlights don’t shine on them. I mean, it’s obvious that they should go dark, but the effect is less evident on the Forza side. I think I understand Forza’s intent for lighting up the whole track, making it seem like a special sanctioned event - but I like the extra fear that GT7’s unlit track gives me.

  • @M24OFGUN
    @M24OFGUN 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +472

    FM8 literally puts lights on every apex while GT7 its just you, your car in dark forest

    • @jorge_781
      @jorge_781 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Which is not realistic, there is lights there.

    • @user-liotan0120
      @user-liotan0120 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      Wait but Nurburgring doesn’t have lights bro

    • @M24OFGUN
      @M24OFGUN 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@user-liotan0120I agree but in FM8 we couldn’t expect much. They literally recycled tracks from the ground and somehow make them worse.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@M24OFGUNeven its somehow way worse than Nordschleife from Gran Turismo 4 and NFS SHIFT 2 UNLEASHED.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@user-liotan0120Nurburgring has lights but only on the GP circuits.

  • @andreasmoller9798
    @andreasmoller9798 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +613

    Gt7 gets my vote nurburgring dosent have lights in reallife

    • @martosraynierideljesus7454
      @martosraynierideljesus7454 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      No

    • @andreasmoller9798
      @andreasmoller9798 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@martosraynierideljesus7454 nurburgring dosen’t have lights in reallife you should look it up,

    • @snafu1635
      @snafu1635 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

      @@martosraynierideljesus7454 explain

    • @mozzkilla_rusrussianvirtua784
      @mozzkilla_rusrussianvirtua784 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      th-cam.com/video/8vaNVk5K4Z0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=b4A2g2c_ZYujF3Iu

    • @0ompaLoompa
      @0ompaLoompa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      Just wanted to write almost the same. That Forza just adds lights where there are none.

  • @PedroHenriquePS00000
    @PedroHenriquePS00000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +238

    gran turismo is more biblically accurate

    • @ark14700
      @ark14700 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      forza's is heresy

    • @trinidad111
      @trinidad111 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Amen god is good lol

    • @runescaper1333
      @runescaper1333 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is that a good thing cause biblically accurate angels looks scary

    • @PedroHenriquePS00000
      @PedroHenriquePS00000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@runescaper1333 just like nurburgring at night during the rain

  • @4thManonCross
    @4thManonCross 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +155

    Gt7 has light beam patten that shows the source of headlight coming from the car it lights up the pavement in front of car and road ahead and it moves with car angles on hills descent - bumps etc. Forza has a stationary white box that only highlights right in front of the car that road beside but not the distance ahead. Their is no concentrated beam pattern like on GT to show it is a headlight coming from a car. This can also be shown in the night rain as GT7 headlights show rain drops falling but Forza headlights doesn't its invisible . Gt7 dynamic light beam > Forza stationary white light filter box. If u prefer forza good 4 u, I'm just happy that realistic application appeals to my tastes

  • @phosphor112
    @phosphor112 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

    Interesting decision to put a light on every corner for the Forza version. I like how GT, most sections you rely on your headlights and not extra lights around the track that don't normally exist.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Does Gran Turismo 6 added more lights like in 7?

    • @jkorkea
      @jkorkea 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@purwantiallan5089 nope, GT6 nürburgring is as dark as GT7

  • @GunBlasts
    @GunBlasts 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +171

    Look at how GT7’s rear lights is actually a light source and is casting on itself not like Forza’s where in the rendering scene is the lowest form of an emissive material where it doesnt cast a light and shadow. So much for people bragging that Forza uses RT lol

    • @sherlock_backs
      @sherlock_backs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea lol, you can see the lights illuminate the car chassis

    • @XenonArcher
      @XenonArcher 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You can also see the tail lights illuminate the ground behind the car in certain points

    • @betofernandez5524
      @betofernandez5524 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Even forza horizon has it. FM shows lot of laziness In all the stuff.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@betofernandez5524even GT5 and 6 have Ray Tracing also on majority of those tracks.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@sherlock_backsespecially on LMGT3 cars.

  • @HikariSakai
    @HikariSakai 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

    1 thing I will say, I prefer GT7's pitch black darkness over Forza's darkness, for some reason Forza doesn't like making things pitch black and I honestly don't get it. Do they not understand how night time works? Night time is an issue in the Horizon games aswell, it's just too bright for night time like are they afraid of people saying they can't see shit? Like no shit, ITS FUCKING NIGHT TIME. lol

    • @JeldesTV
      @JeldesTV 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Forza usa ray tracing, aunque te duela su iluminacion es mucho más realista que GT

    • @HandlesSuck123
      @HandlesSuck123 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yup. It's that way by design because in their minds, it'll be more accessible.

    • @rheacevert
      @rheacevert 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      @@JeldesTVForza doesn’t use rt global illumination, and it _barely_ uses rt reflections. It’s just bad lighting/colouring and would look especially bad on an oled display

    • @rosaria8384
      @rosaria8384 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      It's even worse when you realize that even Forza Horizon 3 from 2016 actually rendered night time as dark as possible. Yikes

    • @richpoor146
      @richpoor146 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Do you make the same complaint for GT7 during the day when the colors are extremely too bright and over saturated with way too much reflection from the sun?

  • @lemanlifestyle
    @lemanlifestyle 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    The lighting in GT7 looks amazing. By far my preference

  • @Axle0Bullitt019
    @Axle0Bullitt019 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +158

    Its really weird that Forza could be so lit up and yet look darker than GT7 at the same time.

    • @michaelnight9162
      @michaelnight9162 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Forza looks better, from the environment, atmosphere, motion and sense of speed. Gt has a more realistic lighting approach but it’s overall less compelling and less lively.

    • @Diax1324
      @Diax1324 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And that Forza sound sounds like Gran Turismo sound lmao

    • @scuckplexity
      @scuckplexity 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      ​​@@michaelnight9162to each of their own really as it's a matter of opinion

    • @rzt430
      @rzt430 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      @@michaelnight9162 the complete opposite lol. the only thing more "realistic" about forza is the lesser use of saturation but the washed out colors are dogshit during anything but night time. can't you see how far apart the headlight simulation is between the two?? you need glasses my man

    • @rsr-warrior
      @rsr-warrior 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@michaelnight9162 very true, car graphs do look bad though, the rest to me looks more realistic. Also too much headshaking on GT7 (sure it can be reduced).

  • @haziqhashim2618
    @haziqhashim2618 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Rear lights in Forza are a disgrace. It looks someone never bothered to do their job properly. Since when LEDs are very dim.

  • @GuilhermeAlmeida-mu7ng
    @GuilhermeAlmeida-mu7ng 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    There are no lights at Nürburgring at night:
    th-cam.com/video/DlDnk_n0i2g/w-d-xo.html
    I vote for GT7.

    • @foxfilmesbr6716
      @foxfilmesbr6716 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Forza Motorsport fake nurburgring LOL
      Forza Motorsport fake ALL CARS LOL

  • @synek03
    @synek03 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    Better lightning, engine sound... nothing to compare, easy GT7 win.

    • @FedericoFroebel-dw4je
      @FedericoFroebel-dw4je 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      What lighting? 😂😂😂 Its all darker, which surely helps to hide GT7 horrendous trees

    • @mercuryfulmina
      @mercuryfulmina 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      go to an eye doctor gt7 seems terrible

    • @Salmon_VP_
      @Salmon_VP_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FedericoFroebel-dw4jeEric Yui posted a video comparing the GT SPORT and real life at the Nürburgring at night, but the real Nürburgring, like the GT, looks very dark because there are almost no exterior lights on the track, and it is not as spectacular as the Forza.
      Nürburgring 24h Reality Check | Gran Turismo Sport th-cam.com/video/W6Rx4Hjf1gY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=SglTBdgSilPqf-iC

    • @NeoGeo822
      @NeoGeo822 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      On god GT7 visuals are a huge improvement compared to playing GT5 and GT6 on a PS3 back in the day. Especially on an OLED TV GT7 is eye candy.@@mercuryfulmina

    • @lautarodesouza6860
      @lautarodesouza6860 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@FedericoFroebel-dw4je Nurburgring en la vida real no tiene Luces, ¿De qué hablas? Justamente es lo que hace más realista a GT7 en este caso

  • @192venom
    @192venom 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Definitely more of a fan of the darkness in GT7. Forza has a light source basically every apex lol. But I like racing in the dark for the darkness. I want to just see what's right in from of me and that's it.

  • @Satori-Automotive
    @Satori-Automotive 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Forza would look good if it was darker without those artificial light sources.
    but i heard the community complained last game about the track being to dark lol.

    • @MemeboiMustangYT
      @MemeboiMustangYT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Yeah that's kinda the point. Nürburgring is in the middle of a forest, of course it's gonna be dark

    • @Petrolhead55823
      @Petrolhead55823 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most people are saying it's because the transam cars don't have headlights at night

  • @jaglemans6778
    @jaglemans6778 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    Forza's dev's just can't help themselves by lighting everything up like a Christmas tree and adding extra trackside objects. But who is this for? Sim fans just want a realistic depiction of the the track.

    • @danipaino8370
      @danipaino8370 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Seguramente sos corredor profesional y pasas horas corriendo de noche en esa pista

    • @adriancampos2913
      @adriancampos2913 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      The game is made so that most people feel comfortable, if not there is no point in having it in Game Pass

    • @IAmSCG
      @IAmSCG 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      "Sim fans", Well this game is for other public destination and looks better than "realistic" and flat tracks.

    • @fenoir_insomniak
      @fenoir_insomniak 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      c'est exactement ça... j'espère gt7 sortira sur pc

    • @Maverick9k
      @Maverick9k 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@danipaino8370my man, it's not that hard to watch onboard footage for the 24h of Nurburgring.

  • @GREENY_SO
    @GREENY_SO 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    -Forza 3d trees really shine during night, you can actually notice the depth of the trees when the light is on them, unlike GT7 2d trees which look flat 3:10
    -GT7 has more accurate spectators and lights, in Forza there's too many lights around the track, this is an issue with a lot of tracks in the game 4:40
    -I love the skybox in GT7, I also like how the full moon made the sky slightly brighter. 4:15
    -Headlights and tail lights are more accurate in GT7, you can even see the tail lights reflecting on the bumper 4:50
    -The exhaust flames doesn't emit light in GT7, in Forza they do 5:39
    -Lights doesn't cast shadows in the interior in GT7, unlike Forza, which doesn't look good especially in tracks with a lot of lights like Tokyo Expressway 0:05
    -Different materials and objects react to light more realistically in GT7, look at the billboard 8:06

    • @Jenci
      @Jenci 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Pretty much, however, the FM8's doesn't have/use (?) a high beam light except GT7. You can see far away light distance in GT7 at 3:10

    • @HikariSakai
      @HikariSakai 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The lights everywhere isn't an issue though, that's more of an artistic design choice. They wanted every track to be lit up at night whether the real track has those lights or not.

    • @TheFurryInShambles
      @TheFurryInShambles 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@HikariSakaiShoulda added a option to take them off though for those that want a authentic Nurburgring

    • @blm7929
      @blm7929 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HikariSakai It IS an issue. You can't feel the real vibe of racing on the Nurb at night because of lights everywhere, it feels like a nightclub. Unbearable...

    • @HikariSakai
      @HikariSakai 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@blm7929 again, not an issue, just an artistic design choice that most people disagree with.

  • @ClarenceThompkins
    @ClarenceThompkins 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    Microsoft Exec: We need to be inclusive and diverse in our hiring process.
    Turn 10: *hires deaf guy for sound design" "That should go well"

    • @falcongamer58
      @falcongamer58 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Add to that the contractor type of workers, the lack of passion and drive, the focus on maximizing game pass renewals, etc

    • @oi118
      @oi118 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@falcongamer58 I don't understand this, since they put details on the Forza track that Gran Turismo doesn't have.

    • @M16_Akula-III
      @M16_Akula-III 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@oi118There are no floodlights in the real life Nurburgring

  • @Hinterhof-qx5ql
    @Hinterhof-qx5ql 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Whats the point of having a night setting if every corner is as bright as daylight

    • @Petrolhead55823
      @Petrolhead55823 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most people are saying it's because the transam cars don't have headlights at night so it would be virtually impossible for them to race. And forza has a decent amount of them.

  • @wordsshackles441
    @wordsshackles441 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    It’s night and day !
    Literally 😂

  • @NoxiousPond
    @NoxiousPond 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    yea forza looks like theres a ghetto bird right above you at all times shining its spotlight on your car like your some kind of fugitive. GT7 looks like a car driving through the forest at night. In other words, forza sucks.

  • @qbala31
    @qbala31 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    In GT we can see that the light source is car’s headlights. Meanwhile, in Forza, the track simply lights up in front of the car and it has nothing to do with how the car's headlights actually work. Forza fails. As usual.

    • @xmorowe
      @xmorowe 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and what did forza better than gt ?

    • @ImSantiago8949
      @ImSantiago8949 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@xmorowenothing

  • @lyci13
    @lyci13 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    You should do the actual Replay Tv style mode… GT really shines in that mode!

  • @valterpereira8014
    @valterpereira8014 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Anyone else notice the small details? The backlight buttons on the steering wheels, the shift lights casting light that reflects on the top portion of the dash and have the smooth halo around them (unlike the generic coloured circles with a white hotspot in the same place in forza that look 2D), the backlight of the LCD dash panel being rendered true to life... Also how close it is to onboard videos from Nurburgring night driving in terms of darkness, light output and colour rendition

  • @alanzyoutube
    @alanzyoutube 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Don't forget you can change the headlights in GT7 and this will affect the visuals, the ones on the AMG-GT3 in this could be stock, where the super bright white ones will look a bit closer to the ones on the Forza AMG-GT3.

    • @MotoGamesTV
      @MotoGamesTV  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Forza has yellow headlights th-cam.com/video/QDzafdWFNvw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=5IyfHOsv-ESkPPuG&t=10

    • @alanzyoutube
      @alanzyoutube 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@MotoGamesTV Oh! what colour was on the GT7 version? Forza just looks too bright, GT7 looks more natural and realistic imo, and in VR it's truly next level imo.

    • @MotoGamesTV
      @MotoGamesTV  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Also yellow

    • @Durzy007
      @Durzy007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MotoGamesTVForza pathetic, yellow lights glow white....

  • @williamhayot5185
    @williamhayot5185 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    J'ai l'impression que les devs de forza ont tellement pas confiance en leur communauté qu'ils ont rajouté de la lumiere et oriflamme partout permettre au gens de rester sur la trajectoire 😂😂😂😂

    • @MoJo-2977
      @MoJo-2977 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pck y’a énormément de casu sur FM, c’est réfléchis…

    • @Fearis
      @Fearis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂​@@MoJo-2977

  • @davidgomez725
    @davidgomez725 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Gran turismo more realistic

  • @imranhossainrohit6990
    @imranhossainrohit6990 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Really loving GT7 night tone and the lighting system. Very accurate to real life hope I could afford Play Station one day definitely try Grand Turismo.

  • @林憲堂-x9o
    @林憲堂-x9o 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I read the comments section and saw someone mentioning ray tracing in FM23.
    Ray tracing in Forza only applies to cars.
    Only the reflections of the cars and some shadows use ray tracing, while everything else remains the same as before (like in FH5).
    Therefore, the lighting in FM23 still has inaccuracies. It seems like Turn10 is unwilling to spend time trying to fine-tune it.

    • @林憲堂-x9o
      @林憲堂-x9o 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If FM23 incorporates path tracing in the future, it would be an epic upgrade
      But I think it's unlikely to happen 🤣

    • @Botinha
      @Botinha 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      FM23's Ray Tracing also applies to tracks, ambient occlusion and global illumination, it's not just in cars

    • @blm7929
      @blm7929 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Botinha According to FM website it's ray traced car and track mirror reflections with ray traced ambient occlusion

    • @Botinha
      @Botinha 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@blm7929 and global illumination

  • @LOPESYT266
    @LOPESYT266 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I don't know this track very well, but I saw another comparison in Le Mans, and what I noticed is that the scene in Forza is very well filled and lit, is that beautiful? yes, but on the real track there is almost no lighting at night, and there are not so many details, it looks more like it is in Gran Turismo 7

    • @e-money9251
      @e-money9251 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Having lights on la sarthe (aka Le Mans) at night is a criminal offense. La sarthe being dark AF is part of its charm and why racing drivers would risk their lives going +200mph down the mulsanne

    • @deathtrooper2048
      @deathtrooper2048 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most tracks on GT7 have too little lights and look like the power went out.

    • @e-money9251
      @e-money9251 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@deathtrooper2048 maybe because there are no light sources on the circuits except for the pit lane

    • @KikuraKun
      @KikuraKun 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@deathtrooper2048When the track owner want to make the track as dark as possible for Endurance racing, like in Nordschleife and de la Sarthe.

    • @blm7929
      @blm7929 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@deathtrooper2048 Because this is the case on the real circuit of the real life ! This is not like the power went out, this is like there is no power because in the real circuit there is no power !

  • @arixant
    @arixant 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    7:47 is the most egregious inaccuracy in forzas nord. that corner is like 4x as wide.

    • @deathtrooper2048
      @deathtrooper2048 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The banking is more noticeable on GT7 compared to Forza.

  • @GoatedAtNFS
    @GoatedAtNFS 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    there’s pretty much no point doing this comparison as they’ve (forza) recycled this since FM6

  • @wagnerxxi
    @wagnerxxi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    GT7 🔥🔥

  • @liamcarroll1993xx
    @liamcarroll1993xx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    GT7 wins................again - FM was such a letdown.. I was so hyped being a long term Forza fan

    • @DrTrizio
      @DrTrizio 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      "again" .. I think you judge a """""Racing Game"""" only by """"TH-cam"""". I think you have never diriven in FM.

    • @FranciscoFJM
      @FranciscoFJM 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      What the fuck would that accomplish@@DrTrizio

    • @jwfpeters85
      @jwfpeters85 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Both good games on there own way Both shit launch….. sooooo controller psysics and chase cam are the best in Forza. While details in GT are way better like the rims in GT7 are just perfect and in Forza the cars are getting dirty. Both trade blows both good games on there own.

    • @FedericoFroebel-dw4je
      @FedericoFroebel-dw4je 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      GT7 loses. Again. Don't lie to yourself

    • @liamcarroll1993xx
      @liamcarroll1993xx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DrTrizio I got it on game pass to try it out before buying and I tried to like it for at least 20-30 hours but found it very shallow and just a massive disappointment... I was wanting to spend hundreds of hours on it...

  • @adeomara5361
    @adeomara5361 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Forza doing very weird lighting

  • @gabor-toth
    @gabor-toth 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Forza is a disaster. It should be compared more fairly to GRID Legends or Asphalt 9 instead of GT7. They're just not even in the same league.

  • @RambitoAce
    @RambitoAce 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Built from the ground up", Greatest marketing lie ever told on videogames!

  • @Stance1988
    @Stance1988 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    GT7 easy.. Visuals, lighting, sound. FM sounds like the car is exhausting into a freaking can. Original beats knockoff I guess, go figure.

  • @jamarcus_OG
    @jamarcus_OG 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Damn they both look insane ! But the moisture/humidity patches on the tarmac in GT7 (see 5:20-5:30) are on another level of detail, very impressive. I mean, at 5:51 there's a moisture patch right under a tree, the amount of detail and precision is beyond me.

  • @NovaXP
    @NovaXP 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wanted to give you props for getting the footage between both games as close as you did. No doubt it took a good amount of skill and effort to pull it off

  • @bobmylo
    @bobmylo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    when i saw the car drive through the purple lighting i knew it was over for FM8 hahahah

  • @R.SHIELD
    @R.SHIELD 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I believe the reason why FM has many lights is because you can drive “F1 like” cars that doesn’t have lights. So their solution was adding lights at every corner. Idk if gt7 allows those cars in the night but if it would then I don’t think you can even finish in less than 6 minutes like in day time. But still both games follow their own artistic visions.

    • @Sliced_Bread1
      @Sliced_Bread1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      GT7 allows those cars its just that they are almost impossible to drive

    • @blm7929
      @blm7929 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I find it so debitating to try and transcribe a real circuit and modify it to make things that don't exist...
      If you want to drive an F1 car on the Nurb, then do it during the day, rather than modifying the circuit so that it no longer corresponds to reality when 95% of the other cars have headlights.

  • @Danielbode14
    @Danielbode14 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    In VR GT7 its dark and u can see the the stars lit up the sky is just something else

  • @UnknownParallel
    @UnknownParallel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Gran Turismo 7 is clearly the winner. The lighting overall in that game, alongside the reflections and shadows, really shines.

  • @Durzy007
    @Durzy007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Forza is like Hollywood movies. Realism doesn't matter, as long as it's spectacular and the kids like it.

  • @MaeveSterling
    @MaeveSterling 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Wow FM Nurburgring was a blasphemy

    • @oi118
      @oi118 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why? I don't understand this, since they put details on the Forza track that Gran Turismo doesn't have.

    • @jacobdakis9423
      @jacobdakis9423 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@oi118real track doesn’t have lights ! FM have put lights ! Stop be blind fanboy

    • @Petrolhead55823
      @Petrolhead55823 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jacobdakis9423 Most people are saying it's because the transam cars don't have headlights at night so it would be virtually impossible for them to race. And forza has a decent amount of them.

    • @selective9012
      @selective9012 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Petrolhead55823 But realistically that doesn't make sense. Why in the world would you attempt to drive a car with no headlights at night. It's night... that's like using slick tyres on ice then complaining about lack of grip.

  • @gtone339
    @gtone339 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    GT = realistic, Forza = ehhhh

  • @herrlogan17
    @herrlogan17 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    In Gt you actually hear cockpit engine sound, I don't like Forza hall reverb.

  • @chongomutengo3201
    @chongomutengo3201 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    GT 7 is the best

  • @lilshax7297
    @lilshax7297 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    GT7 win

  • @MrRaphaelLippi
    @MrRaphaelLippi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I clicked because I saw the huge Illumination diference bitween them. Nurbugring doesn't have all the light thar Forza has.

  • @jann1k_MSC47
    @jann1k_MSC47 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Forza has the wrong LED RPM lights 😞

  • @dantton1987
    @dantton1987 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I knew there was something off with FOrza's lights. Everything is pitch black farther than 20m or so. The lights in GT7 on the other hand do look like proper race spec headlights that actually light the track ahead of you. Just look at 6:06. WOW

  • @denikec
    @denikec 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am infuriated by this fartcan sound every single car seems to have in Forza. If you notice it once, you can't unhear it. There is this weird exhaust sound, like at 2:40 you can hear the comparison between the two games. What the hell are they doing? It's like some part of the exhaust is resonating or something. Built from the ground up btw.

    • @deathtrooper2048
      @deathtrooper2048 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Much better than the vaccum sounds in GT7 imo.

    • @deathtrooper2048
      @deathtrooper2048 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Technically, it's built from the ground up, FM7 sounded way more aggressive (and arguably better imo).

    • @stevebell4853
      @stevebell4853 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol. Shat, from the arse down. This video makes me want a PS. If I were an FM dev this video would make me cringe a little bit.

  • @MArcin91
    @MArcin91 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Do I see Ursa Minor correctly in sky in FM (2:46)?🤔
    If so, that's an interesting detail.

  • @IvanCICS-zd9gs
    @IvanCICS-zd9gs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Como fan de Forza, debo reconocer el maravilloso sonido del motor de Gran Turismo

  • @zamnesia369
    @zamnesia369 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Enjoy both games. Gt7 headlight beam looks 👌. Forza Motorsport the headlight beam reflections pop in. Room for improvements.
    With a closer inspection I would say this is could be due to limiting viewing distance in the graphics settings.

  • @nightstepparadise8844
    @nightstepparadise8844 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The audio in Forza is so loud and unfiltered. Its like sandpaper to my eardrums. I'm gonna have to side with gt for this. Gt isn't perfect either but it's definitely more balanced.

  • @purwantiallan5089
    @purwantiallan5089 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nurburgring in Gran Turismo 7 is far more realistic than in Forza Motorsport 8. Nurburgring in FM8 is way off.

  • @LMSCa18det
    @LMSCa18det 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If not for the obligatory light at every corner in FM, they nailed the trackside 24h vibe (GT seems more like a regular "touristenfahrten" but at night)
    For once, the forza engine looks allright at night (compare to daylight GT7 vs FM).

  • @Gaudine
    @Gaudine 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Without hdr we’re not seeing an additional graphical element. You need to upload your comparison videos in hdr only

    • @MotoGamesTV
      @MotoGamesTV  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I could, but what is the percentage of people who are watching YT videos in HDR and they would notice this "additional graphical element"?

    • @ilbroducciore
      @ilbroducciore 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@MotoGamesTVsmartphones largely support HDR these days. People don’t even need to do anything extra to see HDR content on TH-cam from a phone.

    • @user-zc9zt2vl5s
      @user-zc9zt2vl5s 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      HDR would make a huge difference, especially in GT7 with the car lights

  • @emulatorrisi
    @emulatorrisi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Forza fake nurb

  • @thefallenvalley4340
    @thefallenvalley4340 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why is Forza so lit? GT7 is more intimate since it's only you and your car on a dark forest. I like that feeling.

  • @fenoir_insomniak
    @fenoir_insomniak 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    n'achetez plus forza ...cette licence est fini

  • @subi2868
    @subi2868 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Both games are better in their own areas. There are things Gt does better than forza and there are things forza does better than Gt. They are both good games stop yapping.

  • @FOXmateusGamer
    @FOXmateusGamer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    GT7 GOOD

    • @abuelb
      @abuelb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      FM best!😂

  • @OPZ256
    @OPZ256 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I understand that the track scanning in Forza is the current one unlike GT which is an old version.

  • @eefm99
    @eefm99 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I am an Xbox user and been playing Forza Motorsport since FM3, but I'm not a fanboy in any way.
    Gran Turismo 7 looks way better, the lighting plays an important part here and they just deliver a better night experience overall. So much for the "built from the ground up"...

    • @DV-ou1yu
      @DV-ou1yu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      FM7 wasn't great, bjt I would take that over FM23 for sure

  • @solidsnake8572
    @solidsnake8572 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Forza was amazing up to 4, specially 1 and 2 which were way better at handling than GT3 and 4. But FM5 was a disaster, 7 was okay and this new one is really bad when compared to GT7. Not a bad game for sure, but looks like the "expensive copy". I won't say cheap because obviously had a big budget, but damn, no one would say that when half of the game is still recycled from FM4 in models, assets and sound. And gameplay they just didn't evolve while GT Sport and 7 finally had a great improving and now can be considered amazing simcade games. FM is simply a game without a souls, unlike old Forza which were quite unique and had their own personality. It seems only Forza Horizon matters to Microsoft now, because Horizon keeps getting better (since 3 they are amazing games) while Motorsport keeps getting worse and more irrelevant.
    If you want the best of both worlds, get Forza Horizon 5 for arcade and fun racing and GT7 for the simcade experience in circuits and deep love for cars and tracks.

  • @nova8747
    @nova8747 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best way I can describe the version in Forza Motorsport, is intentionally fake.
    It feels like it's going for realistic visuals, while at the same time setting the game up in a way that doesn't sell the illusion.
    GT7, even though I think it fails in many ways, nails it's visuals, and with a bit of tweaking, a filter & a 720p downscale, could pass for real life footage.

  • @jinchan0110
    @jinchan0110 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    진짜 포르자 모터스포츠의 패배다...

  • @StewHeisenberg
    @StewHeisenberg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    GT7’s lighting and presentation is so S-tier that I can’t even put it into words, it’s just objectively more visually impressive and has better atmosphere when driving at night. It’s just you, your car, and the eternal darkness.

  • @huntersandtargets
    @huntersandtargets 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    clearly! forza exposes the entire route so everyone knows what to do... and GT7 is just more natural and professional! The lighting in GT7 is simply photorealistic!

  • @marksimpson1007
    @marksimpson1007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Forza night racing😂😂😂😂😂😂how bright is it.gt7 is and always will be the best sim on any console.forza has to put lights on every night race obviously skillless players

  • @javicruzito
    @javicruzito 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omg okay stop...GT7 is a beast look the details in the night sky you can see REAL constellations and stars and even part of the Milky Way. GT7 is the best!

  • @MarcSob22
    @MarcSob22 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    GT7 way better for sure!!

  • @jordanerickson3714
    @jordanerickson3714 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Forza has XBOX 360 interiors and it drives me NUTS

  • @betofernandez5524
    @betofernandez5524 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Forza looks good. GT7 looks good and realistic. Less sexy? Maybe. But is way more natural. And I dont want to talk about the details...

  • @grantorino9049
    @grantorino9049 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whats with Breaking lights in FM? 😂

  • @BenjaminKarslund
    @BenjaminKarslund 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After listening to the new game called “Le Mans Ultimate” every other racing game just sounds awful and dull compared. 😅

  • @jordanjoestar8839
    @jordanjoestar8839 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GT7 sounds and looks real. Forza interiors are xbox 360 level and its really annoying. Sounds are also trash, and most all sound the same.

  • @jorge_781
    @jorge_781 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GT7 radioactive green on forest is ridiculous, as the physics, but in this regard both are pure crap. GT7 sound also stinks.

  • @th3orist
    @th3orist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    god i hate these dim rear lights on all forza motorsport games and the headlights are also not as impactful as they should be.
    what is with this game and the lighting i ask myself....

  • @deathtrooper2048
    @deathtrooper2048 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Forza has too many lights and GT7 has too little lights (overall, not just this track) and looks like the power is out.

  • @essamallawi9605
    @essamallawi9605 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What about physics and driving? Which one feels better in your opinion?

    • @rsr-warrior
      @rsr-warrior 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also want to know, that you can't always see. GT7 feels very planted and predictable with a GT3 car, almost as if every race car has a 2tonne McMurtry suction fan beneath it, is that accurate? And yes I know about downforce, just not sure if its accurate.

    • @evilformerlys4704
      @evilformerlys4704 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That response won't help you since you have to try it yourself to figure out if you like it or not. I never understand these questions, which are literally just someone else giving you their feelings on something. You don't know them, so how would their input help you in the least?

    • @michaelnight9162
      @michaelnight9162 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      For a long time I always felt Forza physics shined while in playing on a controller but sucked when using a wheel. With gt I always felt sucked on a controller but feels really good when using a wheel. The latest Forza has closed the wheel gap with a slight edge still belonging to Gt. Forza still feels infinitely better on a controller.
      In Gt I feels grip has an on and off button. One minute it’s all good and suddenly it’s gone. When I lose grip I rarely feel like I could have done anything to save it. Every car feels like it’s on rails with excessively stiff springs.
      In Forza I feel like I can make appropriate adjustments to regain lost grip. There is more of a middle ground between having grip and losing it completely. Cars in general are easier to drive in Forza but also have a more arcade feel to them. Both games have amazing physics and I honestly couldn’t say who doing it better at this point. One game is easier to pick up and play and I’m not sure if realism is factor or not.

    • @ImSantiago8949
      @ImSantiago8949 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I feel that forza physics are unrealistically unpredictable, like if you brake 2 meters late for a turn, you lost control of your car, meanwhile in gt7 you can still correct an error like that

    • @michaelnight9162
      @michaelnight9162 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ImSantiago8949 I’ve played the new game to the point of my driver level resetting after hitting 999 and have not noticed the issues you’re describing regarding its physics. Are you using stock tunes? They are atrociously off to the point of some cars being un drivable. Stock values are the only thing i could imagine giving you this much grief. This is without a doubt the best physics T10 has produced

  • @giveaway6314
    @giveaway6314 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fake lights in Forza and some fake environments too kills the realism. GT7 is not great either, it is just that Forza has complete lost the plot

  • @googarlord5102
    @googarlord5102 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    forza spent so long to add the track to the game only for it to be the exact same inaccurate outdated version they've used in the last few games.

  • @9mare
    @9mare 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's just a small wish of mine. If possible, I hope to make an album of various racing games at the Nürburgring, such as Shift, PCars...etc.🥰

  • @Marcelxy
    @Marcelxy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like most of the Forza games, but Forza Motorsports 2023 is really bad in so many cases.

  • @JasonB72481
    @JasonB72481 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Both did an amazing job, that's it. Great games.

  • @gaminggoose2329
    @gaminggoose2329 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank god they added some trackside lights for forza, the headlights are trash being half the distance of Gran Turismo.

  • @velemajstorpajo
    @velemajstorpajo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both games look fantastic. FM8 is better on PC and Xbox and GT7 is much better on PS5.
    So for all blind fanboys: " It is not comparable, as there is no alternative at the moment!".

  • @weilrichschultz5026
    @weilrichschultz5026 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both are far from reality. Headlights of both are not focused, those who write about some kind of movement of light beam are simply fanboys, both are poorly made. And about lighting of track, both do not fall into reality - there should be lights on Nordschleife and it is not pitch dark there, but they do not provide light like 10k-watt floodlights.

  • @poyocru
    @poyocru 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gt7 looks much better

  • @ArcadoyaDonden
    @ArcadoyaDonden 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the tree model in Forza more than in GT7; in GT7, it's just... green.

  • @defnotatroll
    @defnotatroll 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If I was playing I'd probably prefer Forza because I like lots of light so I can see where I'm going. GT7 is more realistic and immersive but too dark for me

    • @ark14700
      @ark14700 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Or just play it in the daytime lol

  • @iiPolaris
    @iiPolaris 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Both don't really sound close to the real gt3

    • @iiPolaris
      @iiPolaris 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      also the rpm led's are wrong in the forza one

    • @paintbywolf8789
      @paintbywolf8789 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Actually Forza is pretty close because the real thing runs the SLS GT3 engine not a turbo AMG engine

  • @imt558delux
    @imt558delux 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why the hell FM2023 has the lights in the places where there isn't any in real life Nurb? GT7 is soooo spot on. Just dark, track and the car. Nothing else

  • @ailabyuhphage08
    @ailabyuhphage08 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Turn 10 indeed truly built the Nurburgring from the ground up! Impressive to some, but with too much details and lights to the point of non-necessity it turned out unrealistic and became Nurburgerkingring even at night

    • @Wayanman28th
      @Wayanman28th 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Nurburgring curbs have been the same since fm6 and 7 tho? How is that built from the ground up?

    • @林憲堂-x9o
      @林憲堂-x9o 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Wayanman28th They only use laser scanning for the tracks; the graphics are not constructed from scratch.