The d-pad fell out of my second Master System controler back in the day, the little plastic ridges that held it in perished and snapped off. I replaced it with a little flat piece of plastic that we used to use for vacuum forming at school. Worked like a charm! 👍
Your SMS controller collection is truly impressive! I had no idea there existed other controllers than the original one! You really deserve your nickname!
All of my master system controllers are broken.... This seems to be a theme!.. The d pad had fallen out on them all!!... Great video mate hadn't seen the mark 3 stuff before.
@@segahead660 yeah, I have noticed that they don't work with certain games, thats when I have to switch over to the master system controller. I would probably like the master system controller better but all mine suck lol
Dude, who thought a joystick on a controller like that would be a good idea??? That does look mad uncomfortable! It's great to see you back Sega Head! Stay funky!
Ohh 1080p goodness! I've not actually played with any of the other controllers, so it was good to hear your opinions. Having a saggy d-pad can be a blessing and a curse. Also not sure about that round knobble thingy on that white jobbie. Great video mate, keep 'em up!!
Round knobble thingy on that white jobbie....... finally someone who speaks my language :D Yeah this vid was the first of the new ones to be recorded so it was still done with the old camera BUT the videos will improve :) happy to say that the return vid showed it
Welcome back! Hope your neighbour gives you some peace soon. :) I never understood the complaints about the Master System d-pad as all of my controllers had a very similar internal mechanism to the NES one, albeit with the square insert (for that matter, if the rubber membrane wears out a NES one is a direct replacement!) This included an early version that had the screw hole for the joystick cap (which I'm sadly missing). It was only recently when I bought a lot of faulty controllers when I discovered the other design with the bit of foam to keep everything in place and they are pretty awful in comparison. :( I was able to repair one controller by cutting a new foam insert out of a kitchen diswashing sponge, but it still doesn't feel nearly as good as the other design.
The Hori SG Commander is hard to beat. It released under Hori in Japan and it has a much shorter plug and unusual looking connector. In Europe Sega released the Hori SG Commander under the Sega Brand with a nice long cord. In terms of functionality they are both the same controller. I threw a new dpad conductive pad in my own SG commander and it plays so much better. It was either an Nes or Snes conductive pad. I picked up a new old stock competition pro controller recently, but I haven't had the heart to open it. It feels like such a waste to open a new one when I'm already so content with the SG Commander. The Competition Pro is really tough to find here in the states. Importing one usually means shipping that is double or more likely triple the cost of the controller.
Yeah shipping costs suck, I'm lucky to have friends in the USA who are willing to help out and vice versa but because of shipping we never send over individual items, wait till theres a handful of things. So your controller is a sealed one? ooh I dunno if I could open it lol
I recently got an SJ-150 and thought I was close to having all the Sega 8 bit released controllers. Didn't know about the 151... Still need an SJ-200 but those are costly. I don't have any of those off-brand controllers but if the price was right I would jump on getting them. Would also love to get a Korean system. They made some interesting controllers, wheels, sports pad, and other ways to control games across the 8-bit cycle.
It's amazing how both the NES and SMS have such a wide variety of extra tech stuff yet when it comes to SMS we know so little about the full list, I love finding new stuff for this system :)
That's very cool. Do you ever use your Mega Drive controllers on the Master System? I use the Asciiware Mega Stick whick is great for games like R-Type and Hang-on.
Nah I like to use the controllers that belong to the console, plus Megadrive controllers don't work right with every SMS game, Shanghai wont let you move except for up and down for some reason
The controller looks awesome aesthetically but functional wise the second controller...it will be a tad annoying to move the characters with the mini arcade style dpad just no that will hurt the thumbs a lot. An awesome comparison my good sir!!
Nice one, I'm a big fan of the standard SMS controller. I like the SMS don't get me wrong but the main reason I like the controller so much is that it worked perfectly on the Amiga, very useful!
@@segahead660 that's what I figured. I found a very good mega drive knockoff controller, but it's for NES clones. It was a buck a piece so I bought 5 lmao. It feels better than any of the other knockoffs I got for my Master System 3, but the boards are different, so I can't just swap the guts. I think I'll instead mod it for the correct wiring.
Playing sonic on master system always proved hard for me because the dpad was the way it was, even though i pushed forward, sonic would roll everywhere because it kept triggering that i was pushing diagonal down, even though i wasn’t... i tried many controllers but it always does the same thing
Sega Head oooh ok lol, it was just so weird going from mega drive sonic to master system sonic because i was soooo used to mega drive sonics controls and i just kept rolling everywhere when i tried to run and was like FUCKING BOLLOCKS! lol
I wish someone just made really good 3rd party SMS controllers. Retrobit makes the six button Genesis/Mega Drive controller for 15 bucks, but that only sometimes works with SMS games. Perhaps it's too niche.
I've seen crap 3rd party ones made to resemble an NES controller. The problem is that even with a good one, some games refuse to work with anything other than the real thing 😞
I'm having a bitch of the time in the states finding SMS controllers with USB ability. Sure, I can buy and solder and do my electric engineering crap, but I'm trying to compact an SMS case with a raspberry pi.... any suggestions??
@@segahead660 @Sega Head [EDIT] You are a genius! I had forgotten the SMS/MD power cords, controllers, etc were all backwards compatible. I've got PIs. I may have an old SMS Power Base w/ a dead motherboard, but if that online sale falls through the most expensive part of the project will be acquiring an SMS Power Base case for me to just take the bad motherboard out and give it away to a chap I know on ebay that makes a living refurbing those. Anyway - I plan to start the project after Christmas. I want to record it and give you credit/drop links to here with your permission. I'm no pro youtuber - just a tinkering mouth breather, but if it helps -- I'd love to do it. Thanks!!!
Ugh--that SG controller looks so uncomfortable. Joystick over D-pad...cord from the side. The size of a joy-con it seems--no thanks. The bee--that one looks much better but that D-pad does look fairly loosey-goosey. lol It's nicer to hope someone gets hit by a sky bus rather than get ill. I like it! Ooooh, that rounded top looks kinda nice to hold. That and the grooves not being comfy is interesting. Certainly had no idea there were so many different SMS controllers--that's pretty cool though.
The D-Pad on all of my master system controllers is broken, it literally comes off, like the glue that was supposed to keep it in place just gave up after a bit. Though in reality it was probably after a few years, but it's odd they all had that same defect. I think I used a competition pro joystick on my master system for shmups, it was made for the Amiga or the C64, but it was the same port, meaning I also used master system controllers on the Amiga - I couldn't play "Yo! Joe!" without it. I was a privileged child, with asperger, so a shut-in and introverted, so I also had a NES and preferred that controller :) c*nt neighbour!
Thats the great thing about that port style, Commodore, Sega and Atari all used it so nearly everyone just used a Megadrive controller on the lot when it came out :)
The d-pad fell out of my second Master System controler back in the day, the little plastic ridges that held it in perished and snapped off. I replaced it with a little flat piece of plastic that we used to use for vacuum forming at school.
Worked like a charm! 👍
That fourth controller is the HORI SG Commander!
I've seen one that says hori on it but this one doesn't...... strange
Your SMS controller collection is truly impressive! I had no idea there existed other controllers than the original one! You really deserve your nickname!
According to the wife my nickname is cunt........
@@segahead660 😂
All of my master system controllers are broken.... This seems to be a theme!.. The d pad had fallen out on them all!!... Great video mate hadn't seen the mark 3 stuff before.
Thanks man :) Yeah Sega didn't really get it right with controllers until the days of 16-bit
Sega was my second system. Great memories
Dude, I love your vaguely hidden rage style. It’s brilliant.
Hidden? lol never heard it called that before
Sega Head I was going to say “barely repressed rage” but it didn’t sound right in my head. :)
It is a satisfying, non-nonsense, I'm above the bullshit aura of awesome. One of the first channels I've found in YEARS I can listen to end to end.
Just came across your channel man. Really enjoyed the video, I like to use my Genesis controllers for master system games lol. Gave you a sub man!
Thank you very much for the sub man :D I would use a Megadrive controller but it doesn't work with Shanghai :(
@@segahead660 yeah, I have noticed that they don't work with certain games, thats when I have to switch over to the master system controller. I would probably like the master system controller better but all mine suck lol
I highly recommend the honey bee controller, has a great feel for a rectangle and the price aint bad :)
Great video again mate
Thanks man :)
Dude, who thought a joystick on a controller like that would be a good idea??? That does look mad uncomfortable! It's great to see you back Sega Head! Stay funky!
The Japanese always did like to make gaming more of a challenge lol thanks man I'll try my best :)
I loved my original sms controller back in the day and thought it was great..... but.... playing with it now is fooking hard work lol
Yeah the D-pad never was all that epic :( but hey at least with all the different styles out there it doesn't mean we can't still enjoy the games :)
Have to agree about the SEGA logo when I hold the Mega drive mini controller I feel gaming history in my hands
It's a shame I can only click like once on this comment :)
Ohh 1080p goodness! I've not actually played with any of the other controllers, so it was good to hear your opinions. Having a saggy d-pad can be a blessing and a curse. Also not sure about that round knobble thingy on that white jobbie. Great video mate, keep 'em up!!
Round knobble thingy on that white jobbie....... finally someone who speaks my language :D Yeah this vid was the first of the new ones to be recorded so it was still done with the old camera BUT the videos will improve :) happy to say that the return vid showed it
Really good video mate. I hadn't seen any of those before except the one that comes with the MS 👍
Always fun to make a Master System vid :) even better when I can show stuff people may not of known about before
Ah yes the Master System Control Pad.... not so much press right, press up..... more like smoosh right, smoosh up
Exactly, pressing is overrated, LETS SMOOSH STUFF
That was really interesting and very entertaining great video as usual keep up the good 👍👍😎😎
Thanks man :)
Welcome back! Hope your neighbour gives you some peace soon. :)
I never understood the complaints about the Master System d-pad as all of my controllers had a very similar internal mechanism to the NES one, albeit with the square insert (for that matter, if the rubber membrane wears out a NES one is a direct replacement!) This included an early version that had the screw hole for the joystick cap (which I'm sadly missing).
It was only recently when I bought a lot of faulty controllers when I discovered the other design with the bit of foam to keep everything in place and they are pretty awful in comparison. :( I was able to repair one controller by cutting a new foam insert out of a kitchen diswashing sponge, but it still doesn't feel nearly as good as the other design.
I know what you mean about the foam, it really is a lucky dip when buying a SMS controller :(
The Hori SG Commander is hard to beat. It released under Hori in Japan and it has a much shorter plug and unusual looking connector. In Europe Sega released the Hori SG Commander under the Sega Brand with a nice long cord. In terms of functionality they are both the same controller.
I threw a new dpad conductive pad in my own SG commander and it plays so much better. It was either an Nes or Snes conductive pad.
I picked up a new old stock competition pro controller recently, but I haven't had the heart to open it. It feels like such a waste to open a new one when I'm already so content with the SG Commander. The Competition Pro is really tough to find here in the states. Importing one usually means shipping that is double or more likely triple the cost of the controller.
Yeah shipping costs suck, I'm lucky to have friends in the USA who are willing to help out and vice versa but because of shipping we never send over individual items, wait till theres a handful of things.
So your controller is a sealed one? ooh I dunno if I could open it lol
I missed the "my neighbor's a cunt rants" 😂 kills me man haha
Oh yeah the dick is still pissing about with his home
4:22 to 4:30 I couldn't help but laugh, literally laughing hysterically. 🤣
Always happy to start a giggle 😁
I recently got an SJ-150 and thought I was close to having all the Sega 8 bit released controllers. Didn't know about the 151...
Still need an SJ-200 but those are costly.
I don't have any of those off-brand controllers but if the price was right I would jump on getting them. Would also love to get a Korean system.
They made some interesting controllers, wheels, sports pad, and other ways to control games across the 8-bit cycle.
It's amazing how both the NES and SMS have such a wide variety of extra tech stuff yet when it comes to SMS we know so little about the full list, I love finding new stuff for this system :)
@@segahead660 Agreed, there was so much for the SMS/Mark III/Sg-1&3K that wasn't released outside of Japan and the information isn't wildly available.
That's very cool. Do you ever use your Mega Drive controllers on the Master System? I use the Asciiware Mega Stick whick is great for games like R-Type and Hang-on.
Nah I like to use the controllers that belong to the console, plus Megadrive controllers don't work right with every SMS game, Shanghai wont let you move except for up and down for some reason
The controller looks awesome aesthetically but functional wise the second controller...it will be a tad annoying to move the characters with the mini arcade style dpad just no that will hurt the thumbs a lot. An awesome comparison my good sir!!
Thank you kind sir :) since recording this I tried completing Sonic with just the Japanese controller......... My thumb is crippled
Nice one, I'm a big fan of the standard SMS controller. I like the SMS don't get me wrong but the main reason I like the controller so much is that it worked perfectly on the Amiga, very useful!
I'll remember that if I ever get a chance to try it out :)
What's the easiest to get a hold of? Cus all SMS controllers I find (when I find them that is) are all outrageously priced.
I would say use a megadrive controller if you wana go cheap BUT there is a small selection of games that won't work with that, shanghai for example
@@segahead660 that's what I figured.
I found a very good mega drive knockoff controller, but it's for NES clones. It was a buck a piece so I bought 5 lmao.
It feels better than any of the other knockoffs I got for my Master System 3, but the boards are different, so I can't just swap the guts.
I think I'll instead mod it for the correct wiring.
Playing sonic on master system always proved hard for me because the dpad was the way it was, even though i pushed forward, sonic would roll everywhere because it kept triggering that i was pushing diagonal down, even though i wasn’t... i tried many controllers but it always does the same thing
My mate Dave had the same problem, holding near diaganol up fixes it :) sounds weird but you get used to it
Sega Head oooh ok lol, it was just so weird going from mega drive sonic to master system sonic because i was soooo used to mega drive sonics controls and i just kept rolling everywhere when i tried to run and was like FUCKING BOLLOCKS! lol
I wish someone just made really good 3rd party SMS controllers. Retrobit makes the six button Genesis/Mega Drive controller for 15 bucks, but that only sometimes works with SMS games. Perhaps it's too niche.
I've seen crap 3rd party ones made to resemble an NES controller. The problem is that even with a good one, some games refuse to work with anything other than the real thing 😞
I have never seen the SJ-151 Controller, that was really interesting.
And really weird lol
Where can I buy the competition pro
Should be several on ebay dude
Theres only one controller and you cant say otherwise
Would one of these plug in & work on a sega genesis? Or is the controller ports different
Yup, works fine 🙂
I'm having a bitch of the time in the states finding SMS controllers with USB ability. Sure, I can buy and solder and do my electric engineering crap, but I'm trying to compact an SMS case with a raspberry pi.... any suggestions??
How about a megadrive to usb adaptor? The master system controller should work in it aswel
@@segahead660 @Sega Head [EDIT] You are a genius! I had forgotten the SMS/MD power cords, controllers, etc were all backwards compatible. I've got PIs. I may have an old SMS Power Base w/ a dead motherboard, but if that online sale falls through the most expensive part of the project will be acquiring an SMS Power Base case for me to just take the bad motherboard out and give it away to a chap I know on ebay that makes a living refurbing those. Anyway - I plan to start the project after Christmas. I want to record it and give you credit/drop links to here with your permission. I'm no pro youtuber - just a tinkering mouth breather, but if it helps -- I'd love to do it. Thanks!!!
Ugh--that SG controller looks so uncomfortable. Joystick over D-pad...cord from the side. The size of a joy-con it seems--no thanks.
The bee--that one looks much better but that D-pad does look fairly loosey-goosey.
lol It's nicer to hope someone gets hit by a sky bus rather than get ill. I like it!
Ooooh, that rounded top looks kinda nice to hold. That and the grooves not being comfy is interesting.
Certainly had no idea there were so many different SMS controllers--that's pretty cool though.
You make a good point, that curved top controller may be much better for you and hey it's got an NES D-pad :)
@@segahead660 NES on Sega? It's win-win! lol
The D-Pad on all of my master system controllers is broken, it literally comes off, like the glue that was supposed to keep it in place just gave up after a bit. Though in reality it was probably after a few years, but it's odd they all had that same defect. I think I used a competition pro joystick on my master system for shmups, it was made for the Amiga or the C64, but it was the same port, meaning I also used master system controllers on the Amiga - I couldn't play "Yo! Joe!" without it. I was a privileged child, with asperger, so a shut-in and introverted, so I also had a NES and preferred that controller :)
c*nt neighbour!
Thats the great thing about that port style, Commodore, Sega and Atari all used it so nearly everyone just used a Megadrive controller on the lot when it came out :)
the original d-pad for sms was shit for Zillion.
Yeah..... yeah it kinda was :(
Who's the shit disturber who gave thisna thumbs down?! Must be your neighbor.
That would mean the shit nugget would have to put his drill down for over 10 seconds.... he's not capable of that
A hundred of likes :D
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