Godavari Samvad - 2023 | What is it Bharat that is India or India that is Bharat?
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J. Sai Deepak's power of Expression is extraordinary.
My Prayers for his good health & happiness.
He is the person who has the intelligence to interpretate what exactly happened and who is the hero and who not like the refrance he made of Raja Ram Mohan Rai who actually did a lot of damage but is considered a reformist. Hats of to his research and dedication towards awakening the Sanatanis
May the Goddess Saraswati bless him with eternal wisdom and more insight to Hindu religion and its scriptures.
Jai Sri Ram
There are two ways of reaching out to the students by a teacher: to go down to the level of the student and explain; second one, to raise the student to the level of the teacher and then explain. The second one is always more effective in the long run. So is the case in respect of our sanatan dharm. The Sanatan values should not be diluted to make it understandable by every one. Instead everyone should be raised to the higher level so that he understands the dharmic values better.
beautiful
As myself a teacher I can say that to raise a student to your level first you have to go to the level of student and raise them.
Why do you hate the puranas so much?
For the first time someone has stood up to address the matter and take stand on Hindu, Bharat and Hindus position in their own motherland Bharat. He is very clear and straight in his position. He has laid the foundation stone now it is for hindus to stepup and join this yagya
I probably have listened to almost all speech/interview ofJSD, but this probably is the most important one till date. Jai Shri Ram
Jai shree ram to all sanatani
Key is practice of faith not knowledge, awesome articulation
This young Genius has A VISION for the next 2000 years and more on how to go about our Hindu values to keep our country united and not allow it to decay and disintegrate. We should support him...! Our values should never be compensated and at the same time, we should respect other religions but ensure that they don't overwhelm us.
Like shivaji and maharana pratap Vishnu and sai are our modern days heroes. When they speak the world listens.
Shivaji Maharaj
You guys call Pratap as Maharana then why insult Chhatrapati
North Indians idiots
Beautifully put across the point of Christianing the Hindu Community.
I don't think there's any second person who has understood the true facts of Hinduism indepth and the problems involved in the retrieval of the same, as Sai Deepak. He alone has the guts to talk about it openly and logically.
We need more people like him.
Excellent as always. The more I listen to Sai the more resilient I become about what I have to do to delve deeper into sanatana dharma.
I am following four principles for Hindus articulated by sai
Perfectly said Sai, it must be included as nithya karma. that is what is lost with our generation.
Looking forward to read both your books soon.
- fan of Anand Ranganatha, J Sai Deepak, S Jaishankar....
Very well conveyed.... That is sole reason why I always listen to him..keep going sir..
Thanks a lot J Sai Deepak ji ..
We were honored to have got an opportunity to listen to you.
When was this programme held in Nashik? Thanks
Sai Deepak' s assertion that the Vedas are the absolute foundation and bulwark of Hinduism and his call to clearly draw the boundaries of the Hindu identity are very pragmatic and realistic in today's world where Hinduism is under seige.
It would also be useful if he were to clarify what his notion of jati is. Does he interpret it as birth based occupational grouping?
I don't think he needs to clarify his notion of what jaati is, I think you need to educate yourself on the difference between jaati, varna and caste. Therein lies the problem & only you can educate yourself on it. Caste comes from Casta, a Portuguese cultural system wherein a son was expected, and societally forced, to follow the profession of his father and ancestors in general. Jaati, is the Sanskrit term for clan of which many professions can be found. Varna is in relation to someone's profession that they, most importantly, picked based on passion and merit. Ones varna changed over their life going from a student to a warrior to a tradesman to a craftsman and/or jumping over any one of those at any time based on again, passion and merit. Ones varna (profession) may not be what ones father or ancestors did but one does belong to the same jaati (clan). Our first colonizer was the Portguese, that looked at things in classifications and they, by their own words like the British (Our later colonizer), could not make sense of the seemingly chaotic (for them), Hindu society. Hence they used what they knew from their culture, Casta, and carried out indoctrination of misconstruing various Jaatis and professions to fit under their Casta mould. There is enough papers in the British Archives that even detail the British endeavors of the same and villages running the officers out and refusing to buy into this notion of a hierarchy. Don't believe me? Read the papers of Chinese and Greek envoys. They mention Indian society was made up of 7 main professions & note that this society did not have slaves nor beggars and all seemingly were content with how they contributed to society. They go on to make note of how this was odd for their society didn't have these aspects and mention that all boys and girls were required to attend mandatory schooling (gurukula) & Indian women were part of every profession. This is reflected in the Gita wherein Lord Krishna chastises those who look down on others because of the family they come from and reminds them that all passions (varnas) come from Him and it is Him who instills these desires to experience life in various ways in this life. Those who believe otherwise should consider parting with their head, hands, legs and feet ie. All are dear to someone's life and functioning regardless of the ego of humans brains thinking one is more valuable than the other. I'd suggest you read his books as they have primary sources to elaborate more on these concepts that are considered synonymous yet are completely not.
@@panjabipandit Thank you for this detailed explanation. I have listened to literally every speech of Sai Deepak. He has a tendency to bring in jati, varna etc into decolonization and Hindutva. Those who believe in jati and varna for whatever reasons can keep them within their homes and their respective mathas. Temples too can follow their sampradayas without excluding anyone from the Hindu fold. Shirdi Sai whose devotee Sai Deepak supposedly is, went beyond jati, varna and religion. The Ramakrishna Mission and the Sai movements have embraced every Hindu into their fold.
Suggest that you listen to many voices on Hindutva besides Sai Deepak to stay in touch with a very complex ground reality. Here is one discussion you could listen to :th-cam.com/users/liveLUbT3Sp2xoY?si=KGIQCoIF7rv6g6mn
@@achuthanbaskaran3689 Wow! Thank you for the clarification.
@@achuthanbaskaran3689please quote that shloka of specific shastra.
1 billion Hindus and only 15 likes ??
Lord Rama save us !!
Saideepak save us 🙏🏽🙏🏽🕉🕉
Maybe language is the barrier. Somebody should take initiative and make all his speech videos in various languages. I'm not expert in English otherwise I would do it.
As a civilisation we bent a lot and we were made to bend a lot politically , socially and expecting more.
Blessings to J sai Deepak
40:37 Thank you Sai Anna. You have probably instilled in a few of our minds, the need for basic discipline. Perhaps, personally, atleast I understood the need for discipline in our lives. May be I shall indeed take some time to reach a marked level in it, but atleast I have realised the importance of it .
You are a lawyer but more than a lawyer you are a great teacher
Such clarity on the subject and practice of Hindutva other than in Sai Deepak, exist only in the dreams of other Hindus. Other Hindus should draw inspiration and the courage from him.
Very well said
One of the main things that I derive from this is Hindus should congregate regularly at least once in a week and exchange ideas in general and assure each other that we are existing for each other.....Thanks Sai Deepak....
True. But try bringing 10 Hindus to perform aarti at your neighborhood mandir. Really really hard. Sometimes it breaks my heart
We need better thinkers and true leaders, like Sai Deepak who will be able to enlighten people in the right way through proper logic, and not just any xyz who has no knowledge or sense to gauze the deep rooted real problems. Most of the existing Hindus do not have a clue about how our roots are being plucked out, two to three generations has been disconnected with our culture and rituals, barring a few which is followed only at convenience and show off.
Here women play a major role in holding the culture strings together, with men's support at the basic household level, but people are very busy following the western culture and only clap for speaches given by such great learned genius and don't even make any attempt to correct the present situation.
This is our present general situation.
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MY HUMBLE PRANAAM & SHAASHTAANG NAMASKAAR TO RESPECTED JSD.
MAY GOD GRANT U LONG LIFE & GOOD HEALTH. 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for the awareness of real education and you’ve really awakened the feelings of our religion, culture , tradition and it’s our prime duty to retain is nothing but for our principle of life and it’s reflection of our disciplined personality! Really added food for our brain!
Satyam param dimahi
Great discussion
Om tat sat
I enjoyed this narration. God bless you 🙌🏻
Sai deepak is so meticulous on his assertions. he goes to the tip of the root of the tree not just at the base level. The entire population should listen to his discussions.
Temples should have more control of how we practice our faith and also congregational prayer once a week should be a must . Temples also should conduct discourse in the congregation how to financially, politically, emotionally, socially we should protect our faith and how to unite as a HINDU irrespective of language, state, caste !!
Enlightening besides encouragingly profound motivation to all sections. Very many thanks to your visionaries your direct honest involvement at all levels .
Our best wishes sir.
The day Hindus aggressively protect their faith in all aspects just like how the other side do … that’s when we survive
As always fantastic to hear you
Deepak Sai is awesome ❤
Sai Deepak you are brilliant as usual
Sanatan is the study to answer the question of humanity " what am I " rest all is social jargon .
He is a gift of god , not only for Hinduism, but to Bharat as a whole.
More power to you!
More power to you, God bless you
Blessings to J Sai Deepak
I have read his books and these books will be considered classic books of decolonization in the upcoming future.
🔥Sai deepak sir 🔥a savage of the savages!!!!
Love you anna 🙏
Now a days RSS Sirsanghachalak is saying every one born in Hindustan is a Hindu? Sai ji your nailed truth
The brilliant session brother are exceptional i love you 😊😊
It is BHARAT, not India. Period. India is an imposed name, get rid of it immediately.
It's not in reality a religious war it's a civilizational war that doesn't has a concept of religion.
The body is Bharat and the civilization is Maa Bharati who's children we all are...
Few fought it on the name of religion and the invisible god was their banner... We fought it on the name of Dharma... Which is not a Religion.
Jai Maa Jaaniki
Let The Subcon be free let her loosen her hairs so that under the shade of her hairs the world can reside.
Lets invoke her name the mother from whom everything came...
Unleash her energy to bring in wealth and fame.
AkhandBharat Jai Maa Janiki Jai Maa Bharati.
We are learning from you, thanks for your discourse, need to implement.
I feel we Bharatiyas should use Jai Shriram or Jai shrkrishna or Jai Matadi expressions (Instead of hello, good morning, Good evening etc.)for meeting salutation and Om shanti..Hari Om..for parting salutation.. because these salutations must have been in use in our culture at ancient times.
The book is also available in MELBOURNE LIBRARY
The B O S S!
Rocks🎉
Jai Bharath...
Thanks
Unity in diversity, or diversity in unity
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वर्ण व्यवस्था जन्म के आधारपर थी क्या जब विष्णू सहस्त्रनाम ललिता सहस्त्रनाम लिखा गया? 34:09
Rastra through sanatan dharm is sarva pari...
Jai shriram
Now Hindus should think that they should remain Hindus only. So far we have compromised to such an extent that we lost our way through. Mentally we were prepared to accept anything whether it's right or wrong. We were confused & dragged out of our track of Hinduism. First place is love marriages inter caste loops which has made a Chakra Vuga & choked Hindus. Instead of love marriages converting other relationship to Hindus we r pulled out to the other side. So this hooks & loops joining made the loops stronger than the hooks. So the main stream of Ganga flowed into drain made the Ganga drain, it's that simple.
Inter caste marriage is not a problem?
I am born a shudra. I used to do the job of a brahmin. Now I do the job of a Vaishya. It doesn't matter brother.
Inter-religious marriages with muslims and christians could be a problem. Although in states like Goa and Bengal, christian families are mostly descendant from colonial times and strongly integrated into local society.
Same goes to converted tribals who still retain "desi" way of life.
@@SattickDas2001Yes. I meant other religion not Hindus.
India already has enough mental guys, this sai deepak is another one. Add to the list
Thanks!
Is there any channel he owns? So that we can subscribe to get more knowledge and spread it
He came to nasik and I didn't even knew 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭...........
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“rajah “ ram mohan was given that title by the british gave him he was a secretary of the british
India with the consciousness state BARATH
I would love to see an "intellectual" from extreme left debating with J Sai on very core of respective ideologies/values.
Pls upload vishnujis interaction also
BHARAT THAT WAS INDIA.
I think it's beautiful what Deepak sir is saying and many of my doubts have been cleared as a result of listening to this conversation. However, I must also say this- the so called western values, in a sense, can also be understood as global values that people across the world can use to create better conditions for human beings to live on earth as part of societies, rather than giving the societal aspect complete authority over individual nuances. Especially because the societies have transformed greatly from the spiritual to the materialistic domain in the recent decades and because the western values are the consequences of long and intertextual studies done to mitigate these materialistic problems that accompany and not with the sole intention of undermining any particular faith or section.
On that note, can I say that we as human beings should aspire to be more individuals rather than just some integral community blocks, whose intrinsic value equals to minus zero when taken alone, as a reaction to the rising corruption seen on the parts of the politically and economically empowered sections of the society, who by the way are also trying to profess the same kind of community equations with the motive of subjugating those who are unempowered?
Your assumption of undermining of one section or faith is true but you have to clarify on oppressor and who is oppressing them.
What you are prescribing is a perfect scenario as a theoretical subject just as a ideology called Communism which is a ideal theory but practically its the worst form when it is implemented.
Therefore your theory is idealistic but less pragmatic particularly to a section or faith which believes in my faith brotherhood unlike universal brotherhood.
Your faulty assumption is that teh western values are automatic global values on teh basis of their intrinsic 'higher'. values!! Far from it. These universalization of western values and belief system are a long time exercise in using power to subjugate the native culture and its intrinsic values. It - teh universalization - was done with massive campaigns that included actual, brutal and unrelenting violence on teh native societies. As per the "obvious" better value of individual rather than societal, the results are most strikingly visible all around the world. It has destroyed cultures, religious traditions, cohesions of indigenous societies, religions and even the family unit. These native or indigenous societies were and are not, what you call "just some integral community blocks"!! That is essence of what JS Deepak has been talking and writing about. The western world has brought the whole world so near its own destruction by these same individualistic obsession. You are so awfully wrong!
@@ashplv663What I assume is we all have the same education that is a pragmatically modified version of Macaulay's recommendation and which has empowered you and me me to introspect and be conscious about our choices as well as enabled us to argue like this- in a civilized manner, employing the benefits of language, reason and tech, instead of...
B. Coz Sastra Sampradhaya disrespected, Hindus don't respect the Prohit & Acharyas. We question our own rules & regulations insteadof following it. Who r we to question, analyse & comment. This type of thoughts fed in our youngsters mind by the other religion. We think we r intelligent by questioning our religious books which was writen long ago & followed by our Ancestors who were Rishis, Alwars & Acharyas. In fact we try to use our intelligence
freedom of temples most be on our election mandate
true!
Jai hindu rastra
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MY RESPECTS PRANAAM TO MADAM SHEFALI JI 🙏🙏🙏
Bharat, that was (British) India.
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Vikash Divyakirti not harmed in the meaning of " India that is bharat " 😊 jsd🔥🔥
Could you provide the time stamp
@@chaitanyavelamala7268 0:50 😅 and Vikash sir says that he like " Bharat that is India"
The prethatma of congresatva jumped into Modi and bjp now he is supporting Christian cm in ap , there is a bill to free temples introduced in parliament in 2014 but until now the bill has not passed mohan Bhagavath going to Muslims and saying u and I have same dna it’s consciousnesses that matters it is like ginnah and Arabindo ghosh had same dna
That Is what I have been saying and complaining - that the very people, Mr. Modi/Shah/BJP who were given the mantle of power have back tracked have adopted the age-old approach of appeasement of the aggressive, determined, intransigent and deceptive groups claiming minoritysm!! On all teh major issues that affect National security and its sovereign status, its wholeness, this Govt. has remained silent, passive, absent and even openly appeasing the predators. Despite losing practically whole of South politically, they refuse to wake up and take up teh fight that is desperately needed. In my opinion, BJP and outside Hindu organizations should demand and put pressure on BJP leaders to ask Mr. Modi to not seek re-election and asked not to seek PM position. Let a younger, more determined and courageous leader take up teh PM position. They can make Mr. Modi the president which will give much more power constitutionally. He appears to have been bought off, cowered, intimidated or blackmailed. Every major issues of last 5 years were allowed to be festered on their own without any solid and determined action by him or his govt.
Modi's biggest achievement was scrapping article 370 and building Ram Mandir, it is unfortunate that Chandrababu opposed Modi in 2019 and Jagan coming to power,he is playing havoc in Tirupati appointing Christians in the temple.
JSD is fantastic. India will remember him for reiterating untold aspects of truths. However, to me, hindu dharma's flexibility lies in its power to absorb different schools of thought. Sanyassi andolan was important. So important was the reforms propelled by Vidyasagar, Raja Rammohan Roy. Sitting in the 21st century, we can't imagine the painful lives of widows. Sometimes seeing the past with binoculars makes intricate details to blur. If we start to claim everything was so good then we will again fall. I also disagree with him on some points regarding restrictions in learning. In mahabharata , through the life of Karna, teaches the society to be flexible and acceptable concerning learning any particular skill. Through the voice of Vishma (in his death bed), the society apologized to Karna. With the practices of true learning and with the open minds, we could do good for our society. This endless flexibility is the main reason for which Sanatan Dharma is still thriving. We should not forget this.
See the basis of hindu traditions are more about scientific research then social fabric maintainance
Wearing ornaments, wearing tilak, all are originated from yoga and ayurveda
Today we completely sidelined the basis and only hanging on social aspects of it
The very way of lige is already homogenised, we are living just like any other religious person
Hinduism is not about beliefs, its all about the practices
What clothes we wear
What food we eat
How we sit,
We have diluted the basis, that's why trying very hard to give justifications and protecting
No we dont need to talk this much, just start practicing it
In every aspect of life
Belive me the whole world will understand just by the enhancement and efficacy of dharmic lifestyle
This is the land where the postures for different purposes defined clearly with its positives and negatives
What lacking is Dharma,
Kaama overtaken dharma
Thats it
Hindus listening to JSD, please listen to Rajarshi nandy to find your roots in sanaatan
West is solely responsible ,for the presant choas situation.
They went beyond their limit for exposing themselves ,that they really more humanatrian than any body by inviting zihadi mind set society with out understanding the true context of their texts.
The end results are beeing enjoyed by them,let them enjoy.
Now all the sanatani hindhus should understand the inner text meaning of their verses of quran and ultimate goal of zihadi society
in bigger context .
Need of the hour is unity of hindhu society to save our sanatani dharma.
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silver tongued flame thrower!
Dec 6 badhai
Set correctly madàm
we also need a detailed discussion on casteism in Islam and Christianity, which particular identity subgroup
denomination in both these religions control churches and mosques in different parts of the country.
Do Pasmindas/ahmadiyas/ low caste dark skinned muslims get enough space or are low caste dalit
chiristians treated well in the midst of rich and fair skinned people in these religions.
WHY R THERE LOW CASTES POOR PEOPLE IN BOTH RELIGIONS IF THEY R TREATED WELL AND LOOKED AFTER?
WHO FROM WHICH DENOMINATION SUB GROUP CONTROLS THE WEALTH IN THESE INSTITUTIONS
WHEN WAS HE IN NASHIK ⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️WHEN?
Being brahamin I actually don't know about veda content and knowledge. Someone has to explain them for present generation.
Pray to lord Krishna every day and read gita everyday, you will find the way
don't really agree with JSD on bringing back Varna and Jatti system...not sure if the way forward is to put more identities in an already diverse culture. If anything, India needs a bit of more homogeneity.
He is not asking to bring them back. He is saying understand them. The varna system was made as a classification of professions..like how will you career counsel a child? You will tell them that of you want to pursue knowledge you will live as brahman, if you want to pursue kshatriya niti to defend your land you will lead a life of a kshatriya amd if you wish to contribute to prosperity of the society you will lead a life of a vaishya and if you wish to contribute to sustainability of the society you will live a life of a shudra. No where is it mentioned that one "class" should discriminate over some other. The people got misguided and greedy and corrupt as in any society and introduced discrimination. Well if you compare it to today, we have lawyers and doctors and professors who are pandits and brahmins, you have army people who are kshatriya, you have businessmen who are vaishya and you have cleaning people, serving people, who are shudra...and the one with more money discriminate the other don't they?
The division of classes and jatti will always be there but the discrimination is what to be eradicated through better understanding of this system. This system was just theory to better understand aptitude of people so they could chose a career accordingly and thus contribute to the society as per their abilities. Its our wants as an individual to be more wealthy and comfortable, rather than our duty principle of dojng the right for the society that has taken over. Well, this is what's kalyug was predicted to be isn't it?
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Sathish is not mentioned in Ramayana Dasharatha’s wife did not do sati
In Mahabharata only Madri did because of her Pandu died
Sathyavathi did not do Sati
In modern time because of Islamic invaders they started Ssti to avoid atrocities
Sati not mentioned
I've a question: you said that if we do away with the rituals then we have opened ourselves to something else" and you gave the example of Punjab. But in Vedant school of thought there is not rituals in Aarya Samaj there is no rituals and even then they remain Hindu and in the case of Vedant, it actually is a leading thought of Hinduism. How do you see this? Is it possible that christianization is the result of False promises and by missionaries and their ability to exploit the fact that people of the so called "Lowe casts" are still untouchables in most of the India. I see this as a biggest cause of Chritianization of Hindus. What are your thought on both these questions?
Sa plus idhara ,= sutra...
Shifali madame,
the audience collectively invested their time listening, they are not responsible for running behind schedule, you show lack of respect to their feelings, audacious is your response, if you want to rule ypur show, why expect an audience.
It is a cultural wake up call for all to participate,not a talk show
I am just watching the program on u-tube, no any connection to this program organizers. It looks like there are more speakers planned to speak after this speech by Sai D. It is encouraging to see you guys sit through extra 45 mins and willing to sit more. You have great interest in this subject to protect Dharma. You won’t mind extending program time as much as it takes, may be another hour to two hours. Organizers have next person lined up. They probably added buffer time between two speakers, which is used up. They have to put hard limit to manage the time. Please consider being in their shoes, help them out rather than getting angry.
@@harism5589 if there is going to be restricted participation from the audience,here the youngsters,it kills their involvement. This is an attitude of " we control your time and thoughts" the very objective of youth participation in resurgence us thus abruptly nipped. This is her pattern, I have been observing. She tries to project herself as if
It is her podium
Nonsense debates......do...some...innovations...think...other..side..of..the...world