Interactive Discussion on the book- "India, Bharat and Pakistan" | Shri J Sai Deepak
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- Speaker's Profile:
Shri J Sai Deepak is an engineer-turned-litigator practicing as an arguing counsel before the High Court of Delhi and the Supreme Court of India. He graduated with a bachelor’s degree in mechanical engineering from Anna University (2002-06) and a bachelor’s degree in law from IIT Kharagpur (2006- 09). Civil Commercial litigation, Constitutional law, and Competition law are his primary areas of practice.
He has been involved in numerous important cases, including those involving the Sabarimala Ayyappa Temple, the Sri Padmanabhaswamy Temple, the Basmati Geographical Indications, and the Indian Penal Code’s Marital Rape Exception. He received the Young Alumni Achiever’s Award from his home institution, IIT Kharagpur, in 2019. In addition to giving lectures on constitutional matters, he produces plenty of material for prestigious newspapers and periodicals.
About the book:
India, That Is Bharat, the first book of a comprehensive trilogy, explores the influence of European 'colonial consciousness', in particular its religious and racial roots, on Bharat as the successor state to the Indic civilization and the origins of the Indian Constitution.
India, Bharat and Pakistan, the second book of the Bharat Trilogy, takes the discussion forward. It explores the combined influence of European and Middle Eastern colonialities on Bharat as the successor state to the Indic civilization, and on the origins of the Indian Constitution. To this end, the book traces the thought continuum of Middle Eastern coloniality from the rise of Islamic Revivalism in the 1740s following the decline of the Mughal Empire, which presaged the idea of Pakistan, until the end of the Khilafat Movement in 1924, which cemented the road to Pakistan. The book also describes the collaboration of convenience that was forged between the proponents of Middle Eastern coloniality and the British colonial establishment to the detriment of the Indic civilization.
This Interactive discussion with Shri J Sai Deepak was held on 30th October 2022 at CLT, IIT Madras.
Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this talk are those of the speaker.
Timestamps:
0:00 : Central Lecture Theatre (CLT), IIT Madras
2:50 : Introduction to Vande Mataram Forum, National Song "Vande Mataram"
6:13 : Welcoming Shri J Sai Deepak
10:05 : There are many books that dealt with the ‘Partition of India’ & ‘Two-Nation Theory’, so what is something new that the readers can get from reading your book? And what according to you was the necessity or origin of the ‘Two-Nation Theory’?
19:17 : What is your opinion on ‘Identity Theft’ as a part of Coloniality that is prevalent in society today?
27:15 : How did you conclude that stratification of Muslims along the line of Arab and non-Arab origin in the subcontinent, has nothing to do with Hinduism ‘infecting’ Islam, but it is in fact, inherent to the Islamic faith and worldview?
32:26 : Was there no Jati and Birth-based discrimination in India before the colonizers came? What difference should we bring to our understanding of caste?
42:29 : Do you think that the leaders of the pre-independence era lacked political wisdom, and what led the political leaders at that time to decide on “showing loyalty” as an essential need for independence rather than an uprising?
47:44 : Isn’t the need to adopt a single language as a link or state language itself colonial in nature and a significant impediment to the revival of India as a civilizational state?
52:18 : Historically, was there a link language?
56:19 : Has the society forgotten its Kshatra Dharma?
1:03:54 : What is the solution to the mass obliteration of colonial consciousness and what do you think is the way forward? And, in this regard, what would you like to convey to the students of IITM?
1:09:06 : "Delhi ka Vakil bhahar nikal ke aayega"- Shri J Sai Deepak
1:10:04 : How should we look at Devdasi tradition, without being blindsided or partial?
1:14:08 : Why is there a need for identity, since any identity will lead to division?
1:24:44 : What was the view of Moderates and Extremists on the Two-Nation theory?
1:32:00 : Do you plan to explore the relationship between Muslims and Dalit communities in India?
1:33:57 : Has reservation worked? What is the way forward for meritocracy in India?
1:40:23 : Is the Indic system winning in terms of institutional fight? Are we heading in the right way with respect to Temple ecosystem?
1:45:08 : Shri J Sai Deepak Message for all
1:46:26 : Felicitation with Momento of Shri J Sai Deepak
1:46:42 : Vote of thanks, National Anthem
1:48:39 : Book autograph and interaction with Shri J Sai Deepak
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It is so heartening to NOT hear the 3 letter Word “SIR”. Instead , I heard SHRI AND JI. ❤🎉.
Truly appreciate this.
The SIR word is also part of Colonial mindset.
It is so heartening to hear this because this is so many of us feel the same. Why this sir sir which is a legacy of colonialism? We know ways to show respect.
Because Ji also Alean to us. Why don't you use south Indian word Instead if you are so .
So true. 🙏 😊
Great to see Sai Deepak Anna at our campus 💯
Thanks to IIT Madras and everyone associated with this. Extremely thankful to you all
IIT madras is way ahead than other IITs in leading the narrative.
It's not narrative..it's just truth
Because it's led by the so called BRAHMANICAL group in IIT Madras
@@dalitnahipehlehinduhu6569 vro narrative is not always lies.
Sai is one of the best person to be followed by every single proud Indian national. i follow him for sure
Every Hindu must listen to this. We need to protect sanatana dharma. Sai Deepak 🙏
Vande Mataram IIT Madras keep it up!! 😊🙏🏻❤ Thanks for this! Keep voicing for the Indic cause🙏🏻🙏🏻🇮🇳🇮🇳🚩🚩
Dear Sri Deepak Sir, I am 71 years old. I am following your speeches.I can't but
applaud your sincere and strenuous efforts to bring out the facts behind that lead to the 2 nation theory and the subsequent formation of our constitution. I wonder if anybody everbefore try venture to the scale you are now in. The current generation at least should try to evaluate all those facts in comparison to our heritage culture and religious faiths and would try to carry forward such merits useful to the society, underlying those principles.
After this I went & watched 5 yrs old session of JSD at IIT Madras organised by this same vande maatram team is still highly relavant today. It had just 20 people in it but now it's almost a houseful
You are so right . That presentation was literally 20 people , such pathetic seen on that day . But it is refreshing to see now many youngsters to listen JSD who is one of the very few young leaders who are working tirelessly to get our nation in right path .
Remember that last guy in QnA
Thanks to IIT madras and Students. Sai J Deepak is just a addictive drugs for the intellect. Hope Students of IIT MADRAS will lead the INDIC cause further 👍👍👍👌
Amazing clarity of thought and talk by Shri Sai Deepak. Great job by IIT Vande Mataram group. It was very nice to see the students breaking free of colonialism even in their attire. Wish you all success. May this spark which has been lighted spread like wildfire all over Bharat and be the stepping stone to reclaim our indic identity.
Vande Matram IIT Madras, you are torch bearer of India Renaissance in tech institutes and hence tech field. 🙏🙏🙏🚩🚩
Superb clarity of thinking, high level of articulation and tremendous confidence in presenting the argument 🙏🏼🇮🇳🙏🏼🕉️🙏🏼
Expected more periyars(chennai being hub) in Q&A session (would've been interesting) but it seems like they chose to ignore JSD considering his invincibility at logic which they don't have
If I am right, there were multiple people who walked out of the event as mentioned by JSD Anna at the end... So yeah still a lot of work to do for us Bharatiyas. 🙏
@@ke4827 May be they were the periyars I was talking about who couldn't stand the facts being thrown by JSD😂😂😂. Jokes aside
I do agree to your point that it's mostly a hindu that's always against Hindus under the name of secularism. So definitely there's a lot of work for us to do
Such groups r lazy bums. Best way to avoid them is keep things early or during their drinking times. 😂
Going to buy his books. His each word is so similar to my thoughts 👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏
Keep thulping Vande Mataram team ❤️🚀
Vande Mataram IIT Madras great job 👍🚩🙏😊💐 🔥🔥🔥
Thankyou IIT Madras for this insightful discourse.
Thanks a lot IIT Madras Vande Maataram for organising this insightful conversation with J. Sai Deepak
JSD is 🔥🔥 always
Sree J Sai Deepak. - modern rishi of Bharath in a mission to usher in Dharmic revival 🙏🏼🕉️🙏🏼
Rishi is something more great ,but your respect is appreciated. Only one who has understood ved- mantra in a near total meaning is Rishi.
J Sai Deepak ji and IIT Madras KO SHAT SHAT NAMAN 🙏 . Brilliant Session Very Interesting .
J Sai Deepak 🔥🔥 awesome
Great work IIT Madras.
IIT MADRAS UFF
LOTS OF LOVE BROTHERS AND SISTERS KEEP IT UP
Brilliant Kids.. May you all bring glory back to our Punya Bhumi... and J Sai.. what to say about you.. listening to you is like Kantara experience... far too deep... May Maa Bhagwati shower all her blessings upon you .. Hey BTW. J Sai... How could you and Praveen Mohan have not crossed path yet.. ??? meeting of yours and his brilliance will be like convergence of Panini and Agastasya Muni.. Okay for youngsters it will be more like Raju and Bheema in RRR :)
So proud of vande matram team🙏
Good job IIT 🎊 🎊 🎉🎉.
Hats off to Jai Sai Deepak.
@Aman Jha surname
Be prepared for blowback from usual suspects.
Arm yourself with the work of Shree Rajiv Malhotra.
His latest work (Snakes in the Ganges) focuses on many things, and it also touches on the attack on IITs by Harvard University.
So disappointed that IITM didn't publicize this more! I am in IITM, JSD came and went and I didn't even know :(
me too
Wow ! Thanks IIT Madras.
Vande Mataram 🙏🏿
Hare Krishna 💕🙏🏿
At the start of your (this) program, the speaker glorified both "MOTHER" and "MOTHERLAND"!
Kudos 🙏🏿.
FYI, Some time ago, I got a video of a Facebook program, showing the only speaker at a large gathering, a man, who was rather hysterical about praising the GLORIES of "MOTHERS" far far far above those of Brahma, Vishnu, and Maheshvara, (BVM), with absolutely no reference whatsoever to BHAGAVĀN (Sri Krishna)❗
So, in response, the following were my necessary comments, without prejudice:-
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Hare Krishna !
A person I know named MrX, sent me this Video.
MrX is, like most Hindus, infatuated with Brahma, Vishnu & Maheshwara (BVM), who, to them, are AS GOOD AS GOD, individually and collectively. To them, Bhagavan Sri Krishna is merely another Avatar of Vishnu, not knowing that Krishna is the SUPREME PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD, SRI BHAGAVĀN, the Original Source Of All Avataras... or the only "AVATAREE"❗
MrX was obviously put into illusion by the flowery language and bombastic-cum-dramatic demeanour of the more grossly illusioned orator in the video. The speaker repeatedly over-magnified the importance of the MOTHER OF EVERY PERSON at the expense of BVM's important roles in the affairs of the universe. He can't distinguish the fact that, by comparison, BVM remain the same three persons for countless ages while one's mother keeps changing life after brief life and species after species.
So, shortsighted people in general, like MrX, deifying their beloved mothers, promise never to forget them in this, and in all future lives(!), forgetting that they have already forgotten ALL their past mothers, and will forget their present mothers at the moment of death. But they forget that BVM remain the same always.
The Hindi speaker in the video, despite all his bravado in glorifying "MOTHERS" at the expense of BVM, displays his colossal ignorance by totally omitting Krishna in his equation. Fortuiteously too, for, had he included Krishna, he'd have committed an even greater offense than minimising BVM, all three of whom are no doubt, very very great godly personalities❗
Since MrX doesn't speak English, I have attempted to reply to him in my broken Hindi (romanized) as follows:-
Dear MrX,
MaaBaap bada hai. Iss janam me ek Maa aur ek Baap. Donom ko nahim bhool sakta, na?
Tum sochta hai ki tumara bhavishya janam me bhi donom logom ko tum nahim bhool sakta, na?
Lekin, yah baat galath hai. Tum zara socho: Tumara ek ek purva janam me tumko ek ek Maa aur ek ek Baap mila tha, aur ek ek time, tum socha ki ve logom se bada dusra koyi log nahim tha. Uss time bhi tum bola ki unhom ko tum nahim bhool sakta. To iss janma me tum kyom unhom ko bhoolkar naya MaaBaap ko bada-bada bante ho? Yah kya baat hai?
Jo-jo log ka munda me thoda buddhi hai to, vo log ko samajh sakta ki unko koti-koti MaaBaap tha, lekin iss janam me sabko bhoolkar, naya MaaBaap ko hi tum bada banta hai !! Tum maayaa sansar me gir gaya, baba.
Mera upadesh suno : Woh murgha pravachan karne wala ka baat sabhi cchodkar, sirf Krishna ke raasta me hi raho. Krishna se bada Maa aur Baap iss poora brahmanda me nahi milega. Krishna ko bhakti se seva karega to, tumara koti koti MaaBaap ko seva karne se zyaada phal milega.
Krishna ka raasta me chalo. Tumara jeevan naash karne wala, jhooti pravachan karne wala ko cchod do. Nirantara Krishna ka MahaMantra hi bolo. Tumara jeevan safal hoga. NISHCHIT !!
HARIBOL !
Sathyasenan Gangadharan
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❤️VANDE MATARAM 🙏🏿
I really love your campuses visiting. Cos providing directions to young minds is very significant for thriving Indic consciousness..
And students like you are the future leader of indic cause. 👍
Vry nice sai never disappoint hindu
Sai ji will be appreciated enough. I want to also appreciate the guy who sang Vande Mataram. Beautiful.
Great job persisting thru the oppressive left pressures in even universities.
Always a pleasure to hear to JSD!
It's great to see the bright young minds out of IIT MADRAS and Gandhinagar leading the charge to reclaim and set the narrative.
JSD in his usual best, knowledgeable, inspiring, empowering personality.
Kudos to Vande Mataram group at IITM in their efforts to keep connect with Indic roots, are girls not part of this group very few in attendence, not sure why.. they need more inputs in these times of falling prey to LustJihad or become part of isis.
Just bought the book...very gripping narrative... must read for all Indians of Bharat
Indic narrative
Too good! Very informative! Keep up your work team VM! 😄
The man possesses such a high intellect......... ❤️❤️❤️
Great Sai garu, He removed slippers below the stage when he saw the two guys came up. that is the respect . Great
I missed the show. Thank you for uploading this.
1924 Khilafat movement led to the formation of Pakistan in the year 1947. The current islamisation of certain parts of India is the step towards formation of another Pakistan. It is just a matter of time. Many still don't believe it or rather are incorrigible to the fact. Sai Deepak has taken a lot of responsibility on his shoulder, we should atleast support him and beg not to differ with him. We need to bond strongly with a single narrative that is Bharath. Jai Hind. 🙏
Hat's off j.sai Deepak thammudu congratulations jai Bharat matha ki vande mataram Sathya meva jeyathe jai Bharat 🇮🇳🌷😍👏👍👌
Great work IIT Madras kudos 🙏 specially JSD is Bang on as always.
Thanks. Thats was quite insightful. I have been listening to J saideepak for the past 3 days, and i feel my reservoir of knowledge about certain topics expand. Keep up with the good content. Also @VandeMataramIITMadras please take questions from YT commetn section as well, the next time you bring in another guest. Most of us dont have the medium to meet the intellects that you guys have the opportunity to do so, which is why do pay heed to my advice.
The singing of ‘Vande Mataram’ was delightful. Keep it up.
J Sai Deepak 🔥
Sai sir must get Bharath Rathna 👌👍🙏
Vande Matram Jai Hind Vande Matram Bharat Mata ki Jai 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
Excellent 👏👏👏
All the leading educational institutions should start these thought provoking sessions to bring clarity in people's mind.
Through these talks, you (Sai Deepakji) are doing a real excavation of Historical Truth buried in the facts... No body dared to take this head on, till date... "Thanks!" is a very small word to shower my gratitude on you... but, I am tied by language...
🌺🙏🏻।। हर हर महादेव ।।🙏🏻🌺
Extremely powerful session
Those who are looking for answer to the question ‘ do we need one common language across the country today?’ Watch the video. Great insight.
Sai Deepak you are a great mind!
Probably the best session with Sai Deepak anna 🙏🏽☺️
So sharp in his arguments 👏👏
Excellent discussion
J.Saideepak is relative of tamil poet ' Subramanya Bharathiyar '
Is it?
Thanks 😍🙏🏻😇 @vande mataram iit madras 🥰❤️
constitution always distroyed us in every manner ,i always knew beacuse i observed my surroundings first i was not having the knowledge but at last i am now making my base strong ,and gaining knowledge 😇 only knowledge is the key
Excellent explanation Sai Deepak thammudu congratulations jai Bharat 🇮🇳🌷😍👏👏😀👏👍👌
We got to crowd source resources for building an app for daily ingestion and assimilation of Sai Deepak's accumulated wisdom, especially if Indic identities and cultural roots matter to one. Is anyone with me on this?
Yes. That's a very good thought. Where do we get skills and resources from -- we should try to explore.
Awesome, congratulations for the entire team
Descriptive Time Stamps are very helpful. All videos should have this.
JSD is a force of nature armed with logic
Jai shree Ram. Be happy and blessed always 💕
🙏🙏🙏Sai sir🙏🙏🙏
sir could you visit West Bengal once because here people are still sleeping in islamic era
great talk.. #IndiaBharatAndPakistan
Helping Algorithm
The man speaks with brilliance..Here comes a brilliant young man ,which I believe India looks forward to & very different from remaining pack of wolves we live with....A very rising & proud young son of the land ,we need to support & listen to the very idea he professes....The articulation he offers to express his opinions are worthwhile to listen... Brilliant again to say the least..
Excellent analysis
❤️🙏
जी अर्ज है,
"लहर-दर-लहर यूं ही उठती रहे जब तलक सैलाब कोई आता नहीं;
चिंगारीयां यूं ही उडती रहे, जब तलक आग दिलों की आवाम की आग बनता नहीं ।।
The portion on caste from 35:00 to 41:00 kindly cut it short and post on instagram!!! I think this is the most crucial portion
Thanks
Awesome work! Keep it up
Isn't Sai Deepak fed up getting introduced as engineer-turned-litigator for so long now? It has been more than a decade since he became a law graduate.
i think that would inspire and motivate ppl from other professions also to switch their intrest and persue new careers and help build dharmic society. i see no problem but only good with that introductory statement.
👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏✨
Great
J sai 🔥
jai shree ram
Push it up the algorithm.
🔥🔥🔥
Now I have decided that I will go for IIT Madras not IIT Bombay
Jai shree Ram 🚩
Jai Hindu Rashtra 🚩
Jai akhand Bharat 🚩
👍👍👍👍
Helping algorithm
Yep 😂 👍
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how ? how does it work enlighten me
@@himavanthdhanvanthri7401 commenting on a video will nake TH-cam think that the video has something interesting and people are responding to it, do the algorithm ll push the video in more recommendations.
40:10 better treatment within varna system 👍
जय हिंद वन्देमातरम
❤🤝👍🙏
Great speaker at a great university - IITM80 student
Man the crowd is dead?! Seriously!!!!! You need to cheer atleast at 42:28
It’s only Sai Deepak can convince people on Caste, Skill and Heritage
Haiii! boys in vesti!!! 🥰 So cute
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