I've had a few GoreTex jackets in the past but I find Beta LT from Arc'Teryx as my favourite one so far. I'm in love with that jacket. Breathability is just fabulous (even when I'm cycling very intensively I don't get sweaty), great cut, durable meterials and 100% protection from the elements. Highly recommended versatile jacket for multiple outdoor activities.
I get so confused with the AR, LT and such lineage. So, would this be an appropriate outer layer over an atom LT because it has gore Tex? Or should one step up to the Beta AR with an Atom LT mid layer?
Hi Mike, the Beta LT would work perfectly over an Atom LT. The Beta is a hard shell jacket and works as the outer protective layer. To help with your confusion: SL = Super Light LT = Lightweight AR = All Round SV = Severe These suffixes apply to all Arcteryx garments and help to indicate their intended use.
Wind protection will be the same, durability will go to the AR, noise will be a negligible difference. I'd probably go for the AR, purely as it's a longer, slightly looser cut and it'll provide a bit more protection.
Hi. I’ve been looking at reviews of this jacket and have seen a few negative comments about the changes from the previous model. To be honest, most of the changes are a positive, in my view, for the types of activities I will be using the jacket for. The only concern is the change in front zip from Vislon to a coil type zip. This type of zip seems to be a bit of a weak spot for Arc’teryx, from comments I’ve read online. As a retailer, I imagine you get to see a few returned Arc’terx jackets. Is failure of coil zips something you see regularly? Thanks.
Hi Lee, to be honest, we see very few Arcteryx returns, and even fewer due to faulty zips! The new Beta LT is a belter and having owned and used the previous version for many years, I’d be happy to swap over to the new one without fear of downgrading. Paul.
Get a Beta Ar, I always prefer buying the highest end, the cheaper models cheap out for little price difference. I avoid the sl lt etc they’re all just downgraded versions of Ar/Sv. They’re all super light weight. I’d go for membrane ultra light out-dry Columbia for a light jacket and beta ar for serious.
Im not sure if I will get an Response, but im 6,2 and 145 Pounds, looking for an normal fit don’t like my jacket to long, but I’m normally wearing an Size L in everything but the LT seems a little long to me and I prefer a more like cropped fit slightly under my belt, I want it to more fashion based, u think an M or a L will fit better? Thank you so much :)
A large will be huge, so either a small or a medium, depending on your overall build and how many layers you're wearing underneath. It's not a particularly long fit so with one of the smaller sizes you should be absolutely fine. Harry
How durable is the Beta Lt? I would love to use it for everyday use and for biking and light hiking. I’ve read people’s comments on poor durability issues, wetting out issues with the dwr wearing out quickly etc. Just want to hear your take on it.
Quite a few members of staff here have had Beta LT jackets and no issues with durability. They will wet out faster than 5-10 years ago due to more environmentally-friendly coatings, but they just need washing & treating more often.
I’m very tempted to buy this jacket, but I’m a bit concerned about the thinness of the material. I would be using it for one day hikes with a backpack and the occasional overnight camp. Do you think I’d get several seasons out of this jacket, or would I be better off getting the Beta AR with the hardier goretex pro? This is going to be my first goretex jacket.
i’m 6’3 too like you but i’m very slim around 75kg with a 36-38” chest, do you think a M would be fine for me considering i plan to wear a layer or two underneath
Great review as always. I’m currently torn between purchasing the beta Lt and a Rab Kangri gtx. I really don’t know what to go for, what would be your opinion/advise cheers
Hi! Don't know if you will respond anymore to this old video, but do you know when I could have a chance to pick up a Black Beta LT in size M again? Its sold out on every site, and I really want a black one. I have found one in the "Tatsu" colorway in my size, so probably have to pick that up if they are not restocking the black one any time soon. Also tried to search on second hand market, but seems like no one wants to let their personal one go.
Just picked up a Mens medium Beta LT. Fits almost perfect. The only complaint is the hem is a bit snug. I’m 5’8 & 180, 34” waist. Rest of jacket fits gr8. I can easily fit a base layer & atom lt underneath. Even got another mid layer. Wondering if the hem in a L might be a bit roomier? Concerned the rest will be to big. Expect to use this 3 seasons. Limited use in winter as I use another product. Any thoughts or comments? Luv the videos. Appreciate the insight
The hem will be looser, but you may find there's a lot of excess fabric in the small of your back; or at least this is what I find. It won't affect the performance of the jacket but it may be a bit annoying. Harry
Great review. Any thoughts on Beta FL 2020 version? Which has the gore Tex pro but without pit zip. Dose Arcteryx downgrades LT in order to make room for FL?
I'm afraid the FL isn't a jacket we stock, so I haven't used or seen it yet. I think the idea with the LT was to make it more affordable for most people, whilst in the process negating some features. Harry
Hello! Great vid :) I am doubting between this an the beta AR for commuting to work with a high speed e bike. I live in Belgium and it rains allot here. Would also be for all seasons. What would you recommend?
i really cant decide between this and the beta ar. honestly going to be using it on dog walks in the winter in saint louis. it can get pretty cold. going to wear a thick fleece under or hoody or eventually get an atom lt or ar.... would this keep you warm in 0-20 degrees with a thick under layer? is the ar warmer? i do some hiking but no mountaineering
The Beta range doesn't provide any warmth, so the thermal differences between the two are negligible. The main difference is the durability - the AR is tougher and includes more features, but consequently is heavier and less packable. The AR is my personal choice. Harry
Any advice on this vs Black Diamond StormLine Stretch? I’m torn because I can get the BD for almost a third of the price, but I know it isn’t as waterproof or breathable. Also, what about just the regular Beta jacket? I’m looking more at that than the LT probably.
We don't stock the latter I'm afraid, so it would be unfair of me to compare without having tried both. The Beta Jacket is a good option when you want a little more comfort and mobility (thanks to the C-Knit backer). It's a bit more walking/trekking based whereas the Beta LT feels like it's aimed at mountain use more than trekking. Harry
It would be overkill for running. You're better off with something like this for running: www.trekitt.co.uk/clothing/jackets/montane-mens-minimus-stretch-ultra-waterproof-jacket-black__45710
I'd probably go up to a large. It's not the end of the world if a hardshell is a little too big, but if it's too small it'll compress the down jacket and make it less effective. Harry
When it comes to waterproof jackets from Arcteryx this is definitely the most bang for buck one. I personally use this for snowboarding and can’t really complain kn anything. Genuinely use it for everything and love it.
The Beta AR is a little longer and probably more suitable for snowboarding if you can fork out the extra. I don't know how much it retails for in the US though. Harry
Thanks for the review! It is very helpful. What if you could choose between Beta LT 2019 and Beta LT 2021 at almost the same price (just 25 Eur less for the 2019 model)? Will you go to the 2021 sacrificing the Gore-Tex Pro of the 2019? Thanks in advance!
@@jonesy1895 There aren't many Gore-Tex jackets with insulation as the two layers are typically separated for greater versatility. There are waterproof & insulated options available (such as Rab's Valiance Jacket), but it doesn't use Gore-Tex specifically. For everyday use this would be a good option-for outdoor use, the two layers should be separate.
@@trekitt it’s gore I want! Can alway layer up inside the jacket. Mainly every day use ( rainy days ) and hike / walks! Live in Ireland so it can be wet and miserable a lot. The Beta LT may for fit my needs so. Thanks
This colour is called Binary, however it's no longer available. Unfortunately shipping and manufacturing delays mean we're unable to provide a date as to when new stock will arrive. Sorry I can't be more help. Harry
Worth trying on! It's not so important with hardshells to get the perfect size (like it is with insulated jackets). I always prefer using something a little too big rather than too small. Harry
Hi guys. I know you like both this and the Rab Kinetic Alpine 2.0 jacket. My uses for these jackets would be frequent and very varied, including carrying a backpack with laptop to work on both wet and dry days, mountain biking and road biking with a hydration pack, day hiking, and backpacking (although I'd bring a gnarly shell for that too). If you had to choose between the two to be that versatile, which would it be please? Thanks for all the hard work you do on these videos. They're terrifically informative, and just plain enjoyable to watch as well.
The Kinetic will be more suitable for biking but the Beta will be better when trekking/backpacking. If you already have a gnarly shell, I'd go with the Kinetic. Harry
You'd probably have to size up with the Beta LT. The Beta is a more mountain focused piece that'll work for hiking, climbing, etc, whereas the Zeta is solely focused on hiking/trekking. Harry
I own leaf and regular arc. Im wondering how far your bucks per garment in the 2015s vs now can get you pre-china owned. As for me, I used my leaf alpha gen 2 for a few years on the field and camping/hiking from when it was made in Canada. So far no issues on my leaf gear but 2020-21 regular arc it does feel cheaper. My gore shell tore afster the first hike which my early germant didnt in the same exadt uses.
The Arcteryx LEAF range is designed for more arduous use and it's therefore a little unfair to compare it with the "regular" range, irrespective of its country of manufacture. Paul.
Hi, the new Beta LT is a tougher, slightly heavier and a more versatile jacket. The Beta SL Hybrid was designed to be super lightweight and was not as suitable for regular, everyday use. Thanks for watching. Paul
I’d love to ‘downgrade’ from my Beta AR to something a little lighter and quieter. The AR is a little overkill for what I use it for but the issue, for me, is that I just don’t want to give up the drop hood on the AR. So, come on Arcteryx, bring something lighter out with the drop hood rather than the storm hood please.
@@trekitt It is a great hood design - the only negative could be that it’s not so good for hooded mid layers underneath but that doesn’t effect me. In fact, I liked the drop hood that much that I bought a Camosun Parka for general winter wear from you aswell last year due to it. I do wish Arcteryx would use it on a few more jackets.
It's cut a lot shorter than a traditional skiing jacket and doesn't feature a snowskirt, so although it'll provide waterproof protection from above, you'll probably get a load of powder up your back. Harry
The side pockets on this new model are way too low to be used with a climbing harness or waist belt, they are considerably lower than the 2019 model. It was a deal breaker for me. I returned it and bought the discounted 2019 beta sl model
The pit zips are a great addition, your choice should depend on your intended use . For general hill and mountain use the LT is brilliant and the new fabric is so much softer and quieter than Gore-Pro. So unless you’re going to give your jacket a good thrashing each time you go out, the LT will be perfect. Thanks for watching. Paul.
The Beta will easily cope with regular pack use. You may want to consider something tougher if you are doing some gnarly mountaineering or heavy backpacking. Paul.
Best for what?! Your determination of "best" needs to be considered around your chosen activity and prevailing weather conditions. What's best for me may be worst for you, it's a hugely subjective matter. Paul.
Trekitt thank you for the response. I want a warmer but also waterproof option than the Zeta SL I use now to layer under in winter when walking around the city. I really just want a shell jacket with some basic warmth layer that repels water as effectively as the Zeta.
They're the Montane Terra Mission Pants (found via the link below). Harry www.trekitt.co.uk/clothing/trousers-shorts/montane-mens-terra-mission-pant-black__36000
Hey! Can you make a video on their new Beta LT Jacket Hadron , please? If you have this jacket in store :) I don't know what happened to Arcterix, but starting middle of 2022 they introduced a gazillion of new jackets, etc, etc with weird names. If before it was difficult to decide what to buy, now I just don't see what's the difference between their jacked as description per each of them sounds similar. Is like they are talking about one jacket changing the wording what makes you feel they describe a different jacket. Moreover... None of the local shops in Canada have Arcterix anymore. All of them sell leftovers.
Any tips or advice on base layer clothing would be most welcome!....I find that all technical jackets ( So many brands and models its bewildering to the relative novice!)...no matter the price all appear to be made of nylon!....What should you wear next to your skin though?!....I sweat like an old warehouse of TNT no matter how “Gucci” the jacket!! 🤔😩😉👍( great vid by the way😎)
I would recommend either merino wool or a synthetic base layer. I like synthetic myself: Montane, ME and Arc’teryx all make an excellent base layer that can be worn under the Beta.
@@trekitt that’s a great help thankyou.....is there a particular material that is better as a base layer next to the skin? ie merino wool or some man made materials?..(I’ve always worn cotton T shirts so your advice in the video was enlightening and incredibly useful!...thankyou 👍)
I’ve been looking at this jacket for a while. I want to use it for general hill walking, camping, hiking, long treks and scrambling. I want something for all of this that’s also going to hold up when I have to do 8 hours of hiking in torrential rain. I want inly one hard shell for winter and summer use. Is this the jacket for me?
Just bought this. Excellent and worth the money. Internal pockets are for the midlayer. Also, can't get a 100% waterproof jacket. It has big holes where your head, hands and body go :D
Looks a nice jacket, worth considering, I am currently looking at the Fjallraven keb eco shell, have you done or can you do a review of this Paul please
Hi Kevin. We are not stocking the Eco-Shell jackets from Fjallraven, but I hear that they are very good. However, the Beta LT is going to take a lot of beating and it would be my preferred option. Thanks for watching. Paul.
I have the Keb eco shell and it is quieter, softer, more breathable, more of a regular cut than slim. It's also less durable (polyester - though no problems yet) with an inferior DWR (but possibly more eco friendly). Build quality is Arcteryx level. Tough call. I guess Beta lt is the safer pick but not sure I'd trade my eco shell for one.
Thanks for your honesty. I can take some few grams extra. but won't have something that isn't a hundred percent waterproof as it will have to go through extended rain.
@@trekitt I believe you. And the traditional answer to that is flaps covering the zips. It adds some weight, and probably production cost as well, but as long as you carry it the right side up, that normally solves the problem. Not everyone stays out in extended rain however, but if you do you have to look at details like these. There even are rain coats with double or triple flaps, folding over each other to make a tight a seal as possible I see that Swedish brands often go by the old ways, so I guess I’ll keep to them.
Hi Mark. Arcterx have dropped the Zeta, and just make the Zeta AR with Paclite Plus and a reduced feature set. So, the new Beta LT kind of replaces the old Zeta, but with an improved feature set. It's all about range segmentation...apparently! Thanks for watching. Paul.
Oh yeah! Sorry Robin, I got a bit carried away with my responses. The Alpha SL Anorak is indeed a thing of beauty, but we haven’t ranged it for this year, so, unless Arcteryx send me a freebie, there’ll be no inside look. Paul.
I m really curious about Zeta LT 2021 (if there will be one). Ill wait to compare these two. Im hoping Zeta will have C-knit backer, but they can also change materials like in Beta LT case.
@@trekitt Hi Paul, Arc´teryx introduced "built for rain" collection few days ago. There is no Zeta line. I have read over the internet that Zeta is discontinued entirely. As distributor, do you have any up-to-date information about this? Looks like Beta LT is going to be my go for hiking shell.
That's because pretty much every jacket we do a video for is durable, lightweight, breathable and waterproof. It's the ay that most jackets are heading. Thanks for watching. Paul.
Not that bizarre really, it segments the range nicely and reduces the price to provide a superbly versatile jacket that’s more than suitable for general hill and mountain use. Thanks for watching. Paul.
I have so many arcteryx jackets and am wanting a new atom LT kingfisher colour and use don’t have it in a large every single time I have went to buy a arcteryx jacket of use use never have the colour or size in stock I have only ever gotten the arctery cerium LT in black in a large the stock Use have is a joke man
We have been experiencing some delays to our new season stock due to Brext/Covid etc, please bear with us and the new stock will arrive soon. These circumstances are beyond our control and I fail to see how that warrants your comment that "use is a joke man". I would normally at this point thank you for watching, but on this occasion I will skip that pleasantry. Paul.
@@trekitt it means your stock u have is a joke everythin that I want in a large and the the colour I want is never there to order and it’s really frustrating!
I really hate Arc'teryx collar and hood: so wide, so huge! Wind, cold, rain can enter here. And when you use the elastic cords, those fabric's folds are so uncomfortable!
I have the Rush LT, using it for every day and skiing. For skiing (over a helmet) the hood fits great as that's essentially its primary purpose. I do agree that it looks a bit ridiculous when not wearing a helmet. It does the job but definitely looks strange. Can't win 'em all.
They do indeed have voluminous hoods designed primarily to be used with a helmet. If you just can't live with an Arcteryx hood, check out a Rab hood, they are BRILLIANT! Paul.
@@trekitt Thanks! I already have a RAB down jacket and the hood is very nice. No need multiple settings to fit in. I'm curious to known how many trekkers use an elmet during their hikings. Personnally: never. Why those huge hoods are not only present on alpinism jackets? 🤔
I've had a few GoreTex jackets in the past but I find Beta LT from Arc'Teryx as my favourite one so far. I'm in love with that jacket. Breathability is just fabulous (even when I'm cycling very intensively I don't get sweaty), great cut, durable meterials and 100% protection from the elements. Highly recommended versatile jacket for multiple outdoor activities.
Good review. Thanks. Looks like a great jacket (I do think that for £350 the jacket should have an internal pocket).
Fair point, but the addition of features pushes up the price, and personally, I'd prefer pit zips to an internal pocket. Paul.
You can get the regular beta, that one has a inside pocket but no pit zips and different hood.
I get so confused with the AR, LT and such lineage. So, would this be an appropriate outer layer over an atom LT because it has gore Tex? Or should one step up to the Beta AR with an Atom LT mid layer?
Hi Mike, the Beta LT would work perfectly over an Atom LT. The Beta is a hard shell jacket and works as the outer protective layer.
To help with your confusion:
SL = Super Light
LT = Lightweight
AR = All Round
SV = Severe
These suffixes apply to all Arcteryx garments and help to indicate their intended use.
Recommendation on fit.
5’6
180lbs
Waist 34
Broad Shoulders*
I was debating between L or XL, I would prefer a looser fit.
Most likely a large-I would imagine an XL would leave too much excess space and it'll underperform.
Just purchased this jacket today same colour, lovely quality and really happy with it. Fits really well!
Glad you like it!
Would you say it’s a rain jacket? Or winter? Asking because I live in fl
@@Thesneakerfeen17 just a rain jacket mate very good too had it out in 50mph winds & heavy rain on scar fell pike. Kept me bone dry 👍
Hi Paul, for canadian (Quebec) winter bicycling i should go with Beta LT or AR ? (Noise, wind protection , durability)
Thanks!
Wind protection will be the same, durability will go to the AR, noise will be a negligible difference. I'd probably go for the AR, purely as it's a longer, slightly looser cut and it'll provide a bit more protection.
Hi. I’ve been looking at reviews of this jacket and have seen a few negative comments about the changes from the previous model. To be honest, most of the changes are a positive, in my view, for the types of activities I will be using the jacket for. The only concern is the change in front zip from Vislon to a coil type zip. This type of zip seems to be a bit of a weak spot for Arc’teryx, from comments I’ve read online. As a retailer, I imagine you get to see a few returned Arc’terx jackets. Is failure of coil zips something you see regularly? Thanks.
Hi Lee, to be honest, we see very few Arcteryx returns, and even fewer due to faulty zips! The new Beta LT is a belter and having owned and used the previous version for many years, I’d be happy to swap over to the new one without fear of downgrading. Paul.
@@trekitt when someone says "..to be honest.." that is not a good sign. So normally you're not? 😉
Love your reviews! The problems is you make me want every single item!! So whats best Beta LT or Beta AR for hiking, camping and scrambling?!
Thanks for your kind comments. If you're after a massively versatile jacket then you'd be hard pressed to beat the BETA LT. Paul.
Get a Beta Ar, I always prefer buying the highest end, the cheaper models cheap out for little price difference. I avoid the sl lt etc they’re all just downgraded versions of Ar/Sv. They’re all super light weight. I’d go for membrane ultra light out-dry Columbia for a light jacket and beta ar for serious.
@@MobileAura the proton lt is still king however
Im not sure if I will get an Response, but im 6,2 and 145 Pounds, looking for an normal fit don’t like my jacket to long, but I’m normally wearing an Size L in everything but the LT seems a little long to me and I prefer a more like cropped fit slightly under my belt, I want it to more fashion based, u think an M or a L will fit better?
Thank you so much :)
A large will be huge, so either a small or a medium, depending on your overall build and how many layers you're wearing underneath. It's not a particularly long fit so with one of the smaller sizes you should be absolutely fine. Harry
I guess I will wear something underneath like a hoodie, so I think I will buy me an Medium thank you so much my guy ⭐️
Hey Harry Im Sorry i have to update my comment I’m 6,3 should i still take an M or should I go with the Large as you?
@@redrutra1156 I wear a large but weigh 86kg (190lbs), so a large will still be too big if you're 45lbs lighter. Harry
Hey harry u were totally right and the medium fits perfect much love
How durable is the Beta Lt? I would love to use it for everyday use and for biking and light hiking. I’ve read people’s comments on poor durability issues, wetting out issues with the dwr wearing out quickly etc. Just want to hear your take on it.
Quite a few members of staff here have had Beta LT jackets and no issues with durability. They will wet out faster than 5-10 years ago due to more environmentally-friendly coatings, but they just need washing & treating more often.
I’m very tempted to buy this jacket, but I’m a bit concerned about the thinness of the material. I would be using it for one day hikes with a backpack and the occasional overnight camp. Do you think I’d get several seasons out of this jacket, or would I be better off getting the Beta AR with the hardier goretex pro? This is going to be my first goretex jacket.
The Beta LT will be more than capable of what you've listed above. It's not a delicate fabric by any means. Harry
@@trekitt Thanks a lot, I think the Beta LT will be the one.
Your video gear reviews are the best on TH-cam. Keep up the good work.
@@georgeskuse3076 Thank you!
i’m 6’3 too like you but i’m very slim around 75kg with a 36-38” chest, do you think a M would be fine for me considering i plan to wear a layer or two underneath
Medium should be spot on.
Great review as always. I’m currently torn between purchasing the beta Lt and a Rab Kangri gtx. I really don’t know what to go for, what would be your opinion/advise cheers
Try both on if you can. Both perform similarly but one will fit you better than the other. Harry
Thanks for the great review! I’ll go with the Beta LT :)
Hi! Don't know if you will respond anymore to this old video, but do you know when I could have a chance to pick up a Black Beta LT in size M again? Its sold out on every site, and I really want a black one. I have found one in the "Tatsu" colorway in my size, so probably have to pick that up if they are not restocking the black one any time soon. Also tried to search on second hand market, but seems like no one wants to let their personal one go.
I'm afraid we probably won't be getting any more. Sorry.
Just picked up a Mens medium Beta LT. Fits almost perfect. The only complaint is the hem is a bit snug. I’m 5’8 & 180, 34” waist. Rest of jacket fits gr8. I can easily fit a base layer & atom lt underneath. Even got another mid layer. Wondering if the hem in a L might be a bit roomier? Concerned the rest will be to big. Expect to use this 3 seasons. Limited use in winter as I use another product. Any thoughts or comments? Luv the videos. Appreciate the insight
The hem will be looser, but you may find there's a lot of excess fabric in the small of your back; or at least this is what I find. It won't affect the performance of the jacket but it may be a bit annoying. Harry
Great review. Any thoughts on Beta FL 2020 version? Which has the gore Tex pro but without pit zip. Dose Arcteryx downgrades LT in order to make room for FL?
I'm afraid the FL isn't a jacket we stock, so I haven't used or seen it yet. I think the idea with the LT was to make it more affordable for most people, whilst in the process negating some features. Harry
Hello! Great vid :) I am doubting between this an the beta AR for commuting to work with a high speed e bike. I live in Belgium and it rains allot here. Would also be for all seasons. What would you recommend?
LT will be absolutely fine. The AR would be overkill. Harry
i really cant decide between this and the beta ar. honestly going to be using it on dog walks in the winter in saint louis. it can get pretty cold. going to wear a thick fleece under or hoody or eventually get an atom lt or ar.... would this keep you warm in 0-20 degrees with a thick under layer? is the ar warmer? i do some hiking but no mountaineering
The Beta range doesn't provide any warmth, so the thermal differences between the two are negligible. The main difference is the durability - the AR is tougher and includes more features, but consequently is heavier and less packable. The AR is my personal choice. Harry
Is the combination with a atom lt enough for a north european winter?
Any advice on this vs Black Diamond StormLine Stretch? I’m torn because I can get the BD for almost a third of the price, but I know it isn’t as waterproof or breathable. Also, what about just the regular Beta jacket? I’m looking more at that than the LT probably.
We don't stock the latter I'm afraid, so it would be unfair of me to compare without having tried both. The Beta Jacket is a good option when you want a little more comfort and mobility (thanks to the C-Knit backer). It's a bit more walking/trekking based whereas the Beta LT feels like it's aimed at mountain use more than trekking. Harry
@@trekitt Thanks a bunch for the reply. That was very helpful.
Why is the item inactive? Is Arc’teryx not producing this Beta LT in this colorway anymore?
We no longer stock the Beta LT, and yes by the looks of it they no longer produce this colour.
I'm looking for something to keep me dry in the UK summer i.e. could I go running in this?
It would be overkill for running. You're better off with something like this for running: www.trekitt.co.uk/clothing/jackets/montane-mens-minimus-stretch-ultra-waterproof-jacket-black__45710
About fit.. should I get M or L size if I plan to wear a down jacket under it? My usual size is M for jackets
I'd probably go up to a large. It's not the end of the world if a hardshell is a little too big, but if it's too small it'll compress the down jacket and make it less effective. Harry
Thinking of using this for snowboarding, are there any other arcteryx model recommendations you have under 400-500 USD ?
When it comes to waterproof jackets from Arcteryx this is definitely the most bang for buck one. I personally use this for snowboarding and can’t really complain kn anything. Genuinely use it for everything and love it.
The Beta AR is a little longer and probably more suitable for snowboarding if you can fork out the extra. I don't know how much it retails for in the US though. Harry
Thanks for the review! It is very helpful. What if you could choose between Beta LT 2019 and Beta LT 2021 at almost the same price (just 25 Eur less for the 2019 model)? Will you go to the 2021 sacrificing the Gore-Tex Pro of the 2019? Thanks in advance!
Both are great options and in practice there is very little difference. Eeny meeny miny moe?
That means the old model is better and he can’t say that because he got paid for this advertising
@@getoutdoors2693 It could be... I Know the old model is better but I like the pit zips, here are my doubts!
Nice review! Any warmth in it? What’s the cap
No warmth besides keeping the rain and wind off you. The headwear is Arc'teryx's Calvus cap.
@@trekitt appreciate the reply! Recommendations on some warmth with gore tex?
@@jonesy1895 There aren't many Gore-Tex jackets with insulation as the two layers are typically separated for greater versatility. There are waterproof & insulated options available (such as Rab's Valiance Jacket), but it doesn't use Gore-Tex specifically. For everyday use this would be a good option-for outdoor use, the two layers should be separate.
@@trekitt it’s gore I want! Can alway layer up inside the jacket. Mainly every day use ( rainy days ) and hike / walks! Live in Ireland so it can be wet and miserable a lot. The Beta LT may for fit my needs so. Thanks
I can't choose between this Arc'teryx BETA LT JACKET (New) and the Fjällräven KEB ECO-SHELL JACKET. What do you think?
That's a tough choice, but personally I think that Gore-Tex outperforms virtually all other performance fabrics and lasts longer. Paul.
Would you think I could take the beta lt skiing?
It will work, but doesn't have a snowskirt and isn't quite as long as a traditional skiing jacket.
What colour is this jacket and when do you plan on getting more back in stock?
This colour is called Binary, however it's no longer available. Unfortunately shipping and manufacturing delays mean we're unable to provide a date as to when new stock will arrive. Sorry I can't be more help. Harry
Is the beta lt good for resort snowboarding with a insulation layer?
Hmm, it's probably too short to be honest. I'd opt for something longer and ideally with a snowskirt.
After all these years, I would love to see the Alpha SV jacket review presented by you guys. The jacket needs a profesional review on TH-cam.
We'll see what we can do.
Would you recommend it for casual use?
It'll be overkill, but it'll work.
shame I'm between the sizes in Arcteryx. the only one that fits me is Squamish 2020 in XL I wonder how this Beta LT in XL would fit me.
Worth trying on! It's not so important with hardshells to get the perfect size (like it is with insulated jackets). I always prefer using something a little too big rather than too small. Harry
Hi guys. I know you like both this and the Rab Kinetic Alpine 2.0 jacket. My uses for these jackets would be frequent and very varied, including carrying a backpack with laptop to work on both wet and dry days, mountain biking and road biking with a hydration pack, day hiking, and backpacking (although I'd bring a gnarly shell for that too). If you had to choose between the two to be that versatile, which would it be please? Thanks for all the hard work you do on these videos. They're terrifically informative, and just plain enjoyable to watch as well.
The Kinetic will be more suitable for biking but the Beta will be better when trekking/backpacking. If you already have a gnarly shell, I'd go with the Kinetic. Harry
@@trekitt Thank you Harry. You, Paul, Hannah, and the rest provide an invaluable service.
@@AnthonyRicco Thanks Anthony, much appreciated!
I’m a medium if I’m wearing a atom LT under should I size up or stay my size and what is better the beta LT or Zeta LT
You'd probably have to size up with the Beta LT. The Beta is a more mountain focused piece that'll work for hiking, climbing, etc, whereas the Zeta is solely focused on hiking/trekking. Harry
what size would you recommend for someone 5'9 150 pounds with a waist of 31
Most likely a small. Harry
I own leaf and regular arc. Im wondering how far your bucks per garment in the 2015s vs now can get you pre-china owned. As for me, I used my leaf alpha gen 2 for a few years on the field and camping/hiking from when it was made in Canada. So far no issues on my leaf gear but 2020-21 regular arc it does feel cheaper. My gore shell tore afster the first hike which my early germant didnt in the same exadt uses.
The Arcteryx LEAF range is designed for more arduous use and it's therefore a little unfair to compare it with the "regular" range, irrespective of its country of manufacture. Paul.
Beta lt or zeta sl for regular commute and everyday use as a student?
Defo the Beta LT, it’s more durable and will cope better with everyday use. Thanks for watching. Paul.
How does this Jacket compare to the discontinued Beta SL Hybrid?
Thank you for your informative videos.
Hi, the new Beta LT is a tougher, slightly heavier and a more versatile jacket. The Beta SL Hybrid was designed to be super lightweight and was not as suitable for regular, everyday use. Thanks for watching. Paul
@@trekitt Thanks for your fast and informative reply Paul.
Thoughts on this vs the beta AR for snowboarding and everyday use?
The LT will be too short in the body. I'd go for the AR out of these two, however, bear in mind that neither has a snow skirt. Harry
I’d love to ‘downgrade’ from my Beta AR to something a little lighter and quieter. The AR is a little overkill for what I use it for but the issue, for me, is that I just don’t want to give up the drop hood on the AR. So, come on Arcteryx, bring something lighter out with the drop hood rather than the storm hood please.
That's a good point, the drop hood is very good! Thanks for watching. Paul.
@@trekitt It is a great hood design - the only negative could be that it’s not so good for hooded mid layers underneath but that doesn’t effect me. In fact, I liked the drop hood that much that I bought a Camosun Parka for general winter wear from you aswell last year due to it. I do wish Arcteryx would use it on a few more jackets.
Do you know if this jacket is good for apline skiing?
It's cut a lot shorter than a traditional skiing jacket and doesn't feature a snowskirt, so although it'll provide waterproof protection from above, you'll probably get a load of powder up your back. Harry
Perhaps showing close ups of the jacket more would be good
Appreciate your still-timely info. Of and from are both prepositions, so neither is correct, sorry.😢
The side pockets on this new model are way too low to be used with a climbing harness or waist belt, they are considerably lower than the 2019 model. It was a deal breaker for me. I returned it and bought the discounted 2019 beta sl model
I was waiting for those pit zips! I have to ponder AR vs LT again.
The pit zips are a great addition, your choice should depend on your intended use . For general hill and mountain use the LT is brilliant and the new fabric is so much softer and quieter than Gore-Pro. So unless you’re going to give your jacket a good thrashing each time you go out, the LT will be perfect. Thanks for watching. Paul.
will hold up with backpack wear ?
Yes.
The Beta will easily cope with regular pack use. You may want to consider something tougher if you are doing some gnarly mountaineering or heavy backpacking. Paul.
Had a previous jacket lasted for 4 years . Just renewed it with this jacket worth every pound spent
What is the best Arcteryx Gore Tex jacket that also has some type of insulation?
Best for what?! Your determination of "best" needs to be considered around your chosen activity and prevailing weather conditions. What's best for me may be worst for you, it's a hugely subjective matter. Paul.
Trekitt thank you for the response. I want a warmer but also waterproof option than the Zeta SL I use now to layer under in winter when walking around the city. I really just want a shell jacket with some basic warmth layer that repels water as effectively as the Zeta.
Someone knows where can I buy the jacket in the same colorway?
It'll only be available second hand as this colour is no longer produced. Harry
Is this the ‘Binary’ color way?
'Tis indeed.
is the logo stitched or ironed on?
Stitched
Another superb review...what are you wearing for pants...
They're the Montane Terra Mission Pants (found via the link below). Harry
www.trekitt.co.uk/clothing/trousers-shorts/montane-mens-terra-mission-pant-black__36000
Hey! Can you make a video on their new Beta LT Jacket Hadron , please? If you have this jacket in store :) I don't know what happened to Arcterix, but starting middle of 2022 they introduced a gazillion of new jackets, etc, etc with weird names. If before it was difficult to decide what to buy, now I just don't see what's the difference between their jacked as description per each of them sounds similar. Is like they are talking about one jacket changing the wording what makes you feel they describe a different jacket. Moreover... None of the local shops in Canada have Arcterix anymore. All of them sell leftovers.
I'm afraid we can't get Arc'teryx products anymore. Sorry!
@@trekitt Is any secret story behind it?
Any tips or advice on base layer clothing would be most welcome!....I find that all technical jackets ( So many brands and models its bewildering to the relative novice!)...no matter the price all appear to be made of nylon!....What should you wear next to your skin though?!....I sweat like an old warehouse of TNT no matter how “Gucci” the jacket!! 🤔😩😉👍( great vid by the way😎)
I would recommend either merino wool or a synthetic base layer. I like synthetic myself: Montane, ME and Arc’teryx all make an excellent base layer that can be worn under the Beta.
This may help...th-cam.com/video/GhYOFc8K-io/w-d-xo.html.
@@trekitt that’s a great help thankyou.....is there a particular material that is better as a base layer next to the skin? ie merino wool or some man made materials?..(I’ve always worn cotton T shirts so your advice in the video was enlightening and incredibly useful!...thankyou 👍)
How "crinkly" is the jacket? Is it noisy?
Not massively. The noise of the rain is louder than the jacket itself during use.
Hi, is there an inner chest pocket on 2021 model?
Afraid not!
I’ve been looking at this jacket for a while. I want to use it for general hill walking, camping, hiking, long treks and scrambling. I want something for all of this that’s also going to hold up when I have to do 8 hours of hiking in torrential rain. I want inly one hard shell for winter and summer use. Is this the jacket for me?
YES!
Is it a warm coat to wear
No. It's uninsulated and is designed purely for weather protection. Harry
What colour is it? Thanks
Binary. This is no longer available, though. The nearest equivalent is now called Pixel. Harry
The coil zippers on this model turned out to be its Achilles heal. They are in fact NOT waterproof
Is a UK Large the same size as US Large?
It is indeed
Just bought this. Excellent and worth the money. Internal pockets are for the midlayer. Also, can't get a 100% waterproof jacket. It has big holes where your head, hands and body go :D
True!
Looks a nice jacket, worth considering, I am currently looking at the Fjallraven keb eco shell, have you done or can you do a review of this Paul please
Hi Kevin. We are not stocking the Eco-Shell jackets from Fjallraven, but I hear that they are very good. However, the Beta LT is going to take a lot of beating and it would be my preferred option. Thanks for watching. Paul.
I have the Keb eco shell and it is quieter, softer, more breathable, more of a regular cut than slim. It's also less durable (polyester - though no problems yet) with an inferior DWR (but possibly more eco friendly). Build quality is Arcteryx level. Tough call. I guess Beta lt is the safer pick but not sure I'd trade my eco shell for one.
Thanks for your honesty. I can take some few grams extra. but won't have something that isn't a hundred percent waterproof as it will have to go through extended rain.
The Beta LT fabrics are 100% waterproof. The only part that isn't is the zips, but that's the same for every outdoor waterproof. Harry
@@trekitt I believe you. And the traditional answer to that is flaps covering the zips. It adds some weight, and probably production cost as well, but as long as you carry it the right side up, that normally solves the problem. Not everyone stays out in extended rain however, but if you do you have to look at details like these. There even are rain coats with double or triple flaps, folding over each other to make a tight a seal as possible
I see that Swedish brands often go by the old ways, so I guess I’ll keep to them.
Do the zippers glide easily or are they hard to pull?
Harder to pull than an Atom, for example, but not hard in the grand scheme of things. Harry
Peculiar choice by Arcteryx. Not too sure why I'd want this over a Zeta with C-Knit. Bought a 2nd one at a discontinued price.
Hi Mark. Arcterx have dropped the Zeta, and just make the Zeta AR with Paclite Plus and a reduced feature set. So, the new Beta LT kind of replaces the old Zeta, but with an improved feature set. It's all about range segmentation...apparently! Thanks for watching. Paul.
Can you review the new alpha sl anorak!?
Already done! Check out our content for the video. Paul.
I think you might be thinking of the atom sl anorak there, Paul.
Oh yeah! Sorry Robin, I got a bit carried away with my responses. The Alpha SL Anorak is indeed a thing of beauty, but we haven’t ranged it for this year, so, unless Arcteryx send me a freebie, there’ll be no inside look. Paul.
thanks for the video, just bought one
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Love arcteryx 💪
Yup!
What color is this?
It’s the new Binary colour. Thanks for watching. Paul.
Logo stitch or printed?
Stitched!
@@trekitt been looking for this info
really helpful thank you
Glad it helped!
Excellent informative
I m really curious about Zeta LT 2021 (if there will be one). Ill wait to compare these two. Im hoping Zeta will have C-knit backer, but they can also change materials like in Beta LT case.
The new Zeta is now just in "SL", which uses Paclite Plus. So, effectively the new Beta LT replaces the old Zeta. Thanks for watching. Paul.
@@trekitt Hi Paul, Arc´teryx introduced "built for rain" collection few days ago. There is no Zeta line. I have read over the internet that Zeta is discontinued entirely. As distributor, do you have any up-to-date information about this? Looks like Beta LT is going to be my go for hiking shell.
I think I like the older one better Neptune colour is so nice best colour out the lot
Can't go wrong with Neptune 👌
@@trekitt what would u go for the older version or newer
@@Scouseking The honest answer is you'll barely notice a difference in performance. Both are great jackets.
can you pull hydrogen blonde art student chayas with this?
Yeah why not, give it a go and let us know how you get on
@@trekitt ordered it thank you
Every video you make "its tough, its durable, its lightweight, breathable and waterproof'" LOL
That's because pretty much every jacket we do a video for is durable, lightweight, breathable and waterproof. It's the ay that most jackets are heading. Thanks for watching. Paul.
Absolutely bizarre decision to downgrade the fabric. I cannot understand the reasoning.
Not that bizarre really, it segments the range nicely and reduces the price to provide a superbly versatile jacket that’s more than suitable for general hill and mountain use. Thanks for watching. Paul.
The arms looks really long man I like to wear size large and am 5.11 but the arms on that look to long for me deffo
Better to have sleeves too long than too short, you can always adjust the cuffs! Thanks for watching. Paul
I'll stick with my water proof pocket jacket.
everything OK except the colors only for seniors nothing refreshable like in the last years.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. Thanks for watching. Paul.
I have so many arcteryx jackets and am wanting a new atom LT kingfisher colour and use don’t have it in a large every single time I have went to buy a arcteryx jacket of use use never have the colour or size in stock I have only ever gotten the arctery cerium LT in black in a large the stock
Use have is a joke man
We have been experiencing some delays to our new season stock due to Brext/Covid etc, please bear with us and the new stock will arrive soon. These circumstances are beyond our control and I fail to see how that warrants your comment that "use is a joke man". I would normally at this point thank you for watching, but on this occasion I will skip that pleasantry. Paul.
@@trekitt it means your stock u have is a joke everythin that I want in a large and the the colour I want is never there to order and it’s really frustrating!
@@trekitt I just want the atom LT kingfisher jacket of use
This video is sponsored by arcteryx! 😂
I wish! If it was I would get to keep all that lovely kit. Thanks for watching. Paul.
@@trekitt just messing. Lovely gear. 👍
I really hate Arc'teryx collar and hood: so wide, so huge! Wind, cold, rain can enter here. And when you use the elastic cords, those fabric's folds are so uncomfortable!
Not in my experience mate. synced properly they are vervet bit as protective as any other jacket.
I have the Rush LT, using it for every day and skiing. For skiing (over a helmet) the hood fits great as that's essentially its primary purpose. I do agree that it looks a bit ridiculous when not wearing a helmet. It does the job but definitely looks strange. Can't win 'em all.
They do indeed have voluminous hoods designed primarily to be used with a helmet. If you just can't live with an Arcteryx hood, check out a Rab hood, they are BRILLIANT! Paul.
@@trekitt Thanks! I already have a RAB down jacket and the hood is very nice. No need multiple settings to fit in.
I'm curious to known how many trekkers use an elmet during their hikings. Personnally: never. Why those huge hoods are not only present on alpinism jackets? 🤔