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- The tried and tested Layering System has been the staple choice for walkers, mountaineers and climbers for decades. By combining multiple performance layers, outdoor users can enjoy their time in the mountains whilst remaining warm, comfortable and safe. There’s an old saying that goes: “there’s no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothing”. With the right clothes, any outdoor experience can be enjoyable, even in the most extreme conditions. However, make the wrong clothing choices and that experience can be at best miserable, and at worst life threatening.
Baselayer we used: www.trekitt.co.uk/32896/produ...
Midlayer we used: www.trekitt.co.uk/33804/produ...
Wind Layer we used: www.trekitt.co.uk/33130/produ...
Insulating Layer we used: www.trekitt.co.uk/33876/produ...
Shell (or Outer Layer) we used: www.trekitt.co.uk/33864/produ...
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Awesome vid! Good laughter at: theres not much to see its very cold @6:15
This video changed my outlook on clothing for winter hiking. Getting caught in heavy rain and freezing temperatures at the top of Kinder Scout and having the wrong clothing during my earlier hiking days also helped too!
Only too glad to be of assistance and happy to hear that your future adventures will be comfortable. Paul.
Concise and to the point...great introduction on the 4 causes of heat loss and then good discussion of layers...
-Yes hoods are wonderful, I have been known to wear 4 hooded garments at the same time, it gives versatility when controlling your temperature in cold conditions. You don't have to wear all the hoods at once, pick the most suitable combination for your comfort and the conditions. Wearing a wicking hood helps your hard shell keep you dry in wet weather. One of the best explanations of the layering system I have seen. You looked a bit chilly in your base layer
Thank you, the best layering guide ive seen!
Incredibly enlightening for a newbie, thank you!!
Thank you for this. This vid explains so much, especially layers with zipper.
Excellent explanation and video. Great job! Thanks for making this video.
I am a big fishnet proponent for the base layer. Chose from top short sleeve or long sleeve and bottoms. After the poly fibers came into vogue in the 80's fishnet has been hard to to find. The best source is Bernie of Norway. They are available in the States and Canada and Europe on line and a few stores. They have the traditional cotton fishnet as well as poly antibacterial mesh as well as a Moreno wool polly- fiber. . For my mid layer I can chose from an alpaca hoodie or a tight weave wool hoodie based on a 1800 work shirt. both are designed to be worn untucked out and over your butt to allow water vapors flow out and trap the warm body heat. One of my inner layers will always have a hood, so that when I need to add or subtract layers I never expose my head and neck to the wind and cold. One very positive side of wool and alpaca is they are natural fibers that nature designed to have a thermal range They keep you cool when it is warm and keep you warm when it is cold. Poly fleece can not dot that. Remember the space between each layer is a thermal layer of dead air.
Such a great video. Really appreciate how informative this is!
Thank you, thats really helpful, I knew I was missing a layer and its the 3rd/wind layer.
AWESOME VID... Thank you, well done... very informative!!!
Great information.. needed this for long.. thanks..
Always, excellent reviews and info. Keep it up! Greetings from México.
Hi Paul, succinctly put as usual. Layering options makes this a really complicated subject and what works as a basic guide can end up as useless for an individual's needs. Alluding, as you do, to alternative approaches to layering, is probably food for thought for those who are locked into the conventional base/mid/shell layering system.
Thank you for making this video.
I live in a cool-ish area (Like 14°C at the lowest, which is rare, its 22ish most of the time) but it rains a lot, so i usually go for base layer and a shell jacket, either a 3L goretex shell or a 2L goretex shakedry, and I love to go out on a downpour lol its satisfying to see that water bounce off entirely.
Excellent video. I used the 3 layer system the other day and I was really doing well until we started to come back from our summit and then I started to feel really cold. When I got back home my back, arms etc were as cold as ice. This has never happened before, not sure why. And I am accustomed to some really cold below zero temps with painful wind chills. I think your extra layer system would have really helped me in that situation and I will start using it from now on. Thanks for posting.
informative and hands down funny video! Thanks mate! really enjoyed it
Real good information, Thank you much.
We went up Sugarloaf and Skirrid Fawr last year. Very nice too.
This is a fantastic presentation and really educational for me. Thank you very much. As an aside having watched one of your jacket reviews a few days ago I have just purchased a Rab Valiance jacket from you which i can’t wait to receive tomorrow. Thank you
Thanks for the support Dean, enjoy! Harry
I love that wind on top of the mountains in the UK. Truly lovely.
...and very cold! Thanks for watching. Paul.
Still one of the best layering videos I've seen for a really versatile multi-layer system. The products mentioned aren't current unfortunately so it would be good see a new version of this video.
Whilst the products may no longer be current, we feel the advice still stands. But updating this is something we're looking into as there are more options and alternatives on the market now.
Superb video. Very informative!
very informative and the best video I have seen on Layering systems, Thanks for your Time, Les.
Glad it was helpful! Paul.
Brilliant, truly informative videos, such a pity you don’t have a store nearby :)
Cheers from Serbia
Awesome presentation. Thanks!
These videos are gold.
Glad you liked it.
Brilliant.
Hey man, that was an awesome educational video. I live in the US but right now I am currently overseas on a deployment with the military. I come home next month and my friends and I are getting into camping up in the mountains. Where I live it does tend to get very cold in the fall and winter so this helped me understand a lot more about layering. Thanks for the tips brother!
I might check you guys out online as well and buy some product!
Much appreciated!
Excellent video. The best I've seen on how to layer. Thanks so much.
You're welcome 👍
Really well explained 👌🏼, great video
the US Army has conducted tests that revealed that you lose A LOT of body warmth( even more than from your head) at your WRISTS, because al the blood vessels in that area, so keep them covered especially in windy conditions is importend, except of course when you want to dump heat Quickly! nice video presentation btw.
Bullshit , show me the study
the wrists doesnt have much surface area, so i think its pretty much B.S.
@@martinschulze5399 no it ain't, there was even presentation of this on Discovery channel a few years ago, allso I have experienced this myself many times when is was in freezing conditions myself
@@CraigularjJoeWoodworks an example of this is a clever device developed by some MIT students called " wristefy" Google it to see the results....
@@giottodiotto1 I did Google it, you have made an error, I think you speltvit wrong when trying to correct me. Regardless of what you think I'm a medical professional with 10 years in the field, I assure you one sensationalized article is not congruent with the medical opinion that the wrist has a fraction of the cranium.
Very useful information. Thank you
Amazing thank you so much!
Very good and descriptive presentation! ☺👍 Someone without chest hair needs an extra layer! 😉😉
Nice with the dead bird trim matching your wind shell....slick !
Gotta keep brand consistency!
Thank you for your time and information
Thanks for watching and for your kind comments. Paul.
Wow, that's a lot of layers😁. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I have much to learn about this topic.
Hi, thanks for your comments. All those layers have proved to be highly effective in use. Paul.
That helps a lot. Thanks!
Awesome video, it gave me a few other idea. Because of where I live I also have a down layer. I can imagine not having that.
Well worth watching. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
@14:53 I happened to start watching at this point as TH-cam was on autoplay and I was distracted, and seeing how he kept pulling zipper after zipper only to reveal more layers inside, I almost thought he would keep going even with exposed skin pulling down an epithelial skin zipper, a heart-lung zipper, a spinal cord zipper, and a lats zipper until you could see the hilly scenery behind right through his skeletal frame.
Interesting theory, however I think TH-cam may tell us off if Paul removes anymore layers!
Would be great if you could do a similar video on the pro/cons with regard to options for legs. (Long Johns vs Thermal Trousers, Water proof trousers vs Over trousers etc). thanks
I'll put a poll in our community tab and see what people think. Thanks for the suggestion! Harry
Thanks for posting top video 👍
Awesome vid.
Very informative. Thank you very much! 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Great video. Would you ever use a down insulating layer, or is it too much combined with others? I'm thinking a very cold wind so you get a feels like of say -5 C or worse. Thanks
Great video thanks from an outdoor worker in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania USA👍
Welcome to our channel.
‘There’s not a lot to see, it’s really cold” 😂😂😂
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Thank you for this great tipps, it made me overthink my cloth system! Stay safe! 👍
Hi Daniel, thanks for watching and for your comments. The layering system can, at first, appear complicated, but with experience and good advice you'll soon have it nailed! Paul.
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Well, I used to be more old style, big jacket, big fleece or pullover etc. But a few layers are much more effektiv and versatile than one big. Have a great weekend! 👍
Brilliant. Thanks.
Glad you liked it. Paul.
Lol 😂 THANK YOU SO MUCH! My fav clothing gear as well. Love the bird.
You gotta love a bit of bony bird! Thanks for watching. Paul.
Great video learnt a lot thank you
Glad it was helpful! Paul.
Ty for a great video.
Muchas gracias or tan valiosas recomendaciones!, Analia desde Bariloche, Patagonia Argentina.
Great upload again from Trekkit again. Really informative. Id never go for a shell without pit zips though.
Down should have gotten a mention to complete this, as its a great way to keep warm on the hills when extremely cold and no rain, esp when stationary. Rabs newly designed Microlight is amazing with the high neck. Atom is an amazing jacket though.
Hi David, thanks for your comments and I agree about down jackets, however, I prefer synthetic as it offers greater weather versatility. Paul.
@@trekitt I bought the Lt atom. Best jacket I've ever owned. Got it from you guys for 135 quid!! So I'm super stoked. Prob is, it's looks so good, I don't want to use it for trekking now😂. Cheers Paul. It was your you tube vids that brought the Atom to my attention in the first place
Thank you, very informative :)
I believe that the best material for keeping you warm, especially when you are not moving vigorously is the down jacket or Primaloft one. I've got a very good Primaloft 133 sport jacket which is so versatile that I can wear it when it's 10 degrees Celsius above or below zero
Synthetic sheet insulation such as PrimaLoft Gold is definitely best when stationary, however down typically tends to fare better when moving quickly or sweating heavily. Kind regards, Harry.
Good information. Thank you
Cool video! I really love Arc'teryx products a lot
Us too!
Too pricey never mind
I have two of those Arcteryx jackets!
Brilliant video 👍
Thanks very much!
Good info. but glossed over the trouser layers a bit would have been good to mention which brands of trouser layers etc,
Best video on explaining the science behind layering during cold weather! Now I’ve been curious; do you know if diet effects heat generation within the body?
Hey Gary, that's a good question. I know that the physical amount of food you consume will have some thermal effect, and I know that a poor diet will leave you with less energy/concentration, but I'm not sure if a specific diet would also reduce your overall warmth. Harry
Appreciate this video a lot. Great advice, great vid. Lots of laughter for me at "not a lot to see it's really cold" (re: undies). LOL
Question: what fabrics are best for midlayer / for insulating?
Ohhhh found this! th-cam.com/video/qezzM6nEDAs/w-d-xo.html
Thanks. That was really helpful.
You're welcome!
@@trekitt Based on your great layering advice I went and bought a new base layer and mid layer from Macpac NZ. I've got an external windproof jacket layer on order in my size from them. The base layer has a hood and so does the outer. I enjoy tramping (our Kiwi word for hiking) am am looking forward to a good "warm" walk next weekend. Yesterday did 3900m of ups and downs and got really really wet and cold. First time I've ever hit the wall on a tramp. Was a bit scary. So....yep...you've been an amazing help. Seriously...thank you very much. When the world open up, if you are ever in New Zealand, come and stay.
Great, please make such a technical sound video on sleeping bag for glacier region, with regards
Just watched this, very good video, cheers
Hi Paul, thanks for your kind comments and for watching the video. Paul.
very simple- woolpower base and mid layer where needed waterproof on top
thank you!!
You're welcome!
It was perfectly fine! I treated myself to 3 pairs of twoowsers! There was zero chance of me getting blown off by anything 😤😤😤😤
Very interesting.
Great video. Do you have similar videos for the gloves and trousers?
I'm afraid we don't at the moment, but the same principles apply; baselayer glove, insulated mid glove and a shell mitt or glove for when the weather is particularly foul.
Very informative and very well presented. I have an Arcteryx Theta rain jacket which I trust in a mountain storm. I use it as a wind layer as well. However it's bulky and relatively heavy. I have a very lightweight Montbell Versalite rain jacket which is also a wind jacket , however carrying a backpack I don't trust it in a storm as much. I'm considering getting a lightweight wind jacket like the Patagonia Houdini and the combined weight of the Montbell and Patagonia will be 280 g lighter than the Theta as well as packing much smaller. I think this combination will be better in our warmer Aussie 3 season conditions. My question to you though is for the unpredictable Tasmaniian mountain conditions ( snow storm in Summer possible) is , should I stick to my trustworthy Theta jacket only ? Thanks
It depends how tough you need your jacket to be and what you're doing in it. There are lighter shell jackets available which feature the same hydrostatic head (waterproof rating), but are less durable. You'll probably be glad you kept the Theta in your pack during torrential rain, however if you're dead set on lightening your pack then Arc'teryx's Beta LT could be a good jacket to consider. It still uses Gore-Tex Pro, but it's lighter and more packable. I'll pop a link to it below. Kind regards, Harry.
www.trekitt.co.uk/38195/products/arcteryx-mens-beta-lt-jacket-trail-blaze.aspx
@@trekitt Thank you
Great video very informative
Thank you!
Hi Paul, thanks for the great video, this layering system segment has been extremely educational! I'm curious about the wind layer. Supposedly one could use the hard shell as a windbreaking layer, which would mean one less jacket to lug around. What specific advantages does the wind layer bring over just using your rain layer? Would you consider it an essential piece of kit? I've always just used my rain jacket and never had a huge issue with overheating, but perhaps I dont know what I'm missing. Thanks!
I had another question: Does a wind layer add significant warmth to a setup when already layered under insulating layers? For example, comparing the two layering systems:
(a) baselayer, fleece, wind, insulating, hardshell
(b) baselayer, fleece, insulating, hardshell
Would (a) have any specific advantages over (b)?
HI, I'm, glad our video has been educational, thanks for watching. The big difference between the wind and hardshell layer is breathability. If the weather is cold, windy and not too wet, I'd always opt for the wind layer over a hardshell. they are softer and more comfortable and will always be significantly more breathable. Given that a good lightweight softshell/windlayer weighs very little, it's virtually nothing to "lug" around. Paul.
Hi again. Any "layer" that you add to a system will add warmth by trapping air between the "layers"; so yes, a) will be warmer than b).
I often use my windlayer as a lightweight layer, over my baselayer and under my hardshell, when I just want a little bit more comfort. It really is a case of mixing and matching to suit the conditions and type of activity. I hope that helps. Paul.
Great video! What is your opinion about down and synthetic jackets?
I love them both! For day to day thrashing about in mixed conditions, I use synthetics. But when you just want to throw on some instant warmth you can't beat a down jacket. Thanks for watching. Paul.
These videos are superb and so helpful. I just wish I could afford to buy that many layers at once! Really enjoy watching and learning from these. Thanks Paul and Trekitt
Thanks so much! Paul.
Very nice informative video. I love it. However I feel like the wind layer might be a bit overkill if you already have a shell layer, no? I guess it depends on how light weight you want to pack your backpack.
It largely depends on the weather conditions on the day. A wind layer is such a useful piece to have when moving in the hills when it's not raining hard as they're far more comfortable, breathable and stretchy. We generally wear these for the majority of our time in the mountains, whereas the shell's only come out when it begins to rain heavily. Most wind layers similar to the one in our video weigh less than a can of soup, so unless you're really trying to save weight, we think it'd be a worthy addition. Kind regards, Harry.
@@trekitt I think you made a strong argument there :P I'll add a little context to my comment. I myself have a very bad habit of bringing way too many things on my hike, especially clothes. So lately I'm very focused on trying to trim down my weight to only the 'need to have' items. In the upcoming summer I'll spend 4-6 weeks hiking in the northern part of Sweden. A trip where I really strive to leave the 'nice to have' things at home. I've bought an expensive high end shell with high breathability (at least for a shell) and the option to open up/ventilate in the armpits and of course on the front. I expect that my shell will be good enough for my needs on this trip, but you somehow managed to get through to my inner "gear packing hoarder" ("Oh no! What if X happens and I'll need this item? And this? Better safe than sorry am I right?!"). So now I'll have to reconsider what'll do... so yeah... "thanks" for for the response I guess, Harry ;P
Excellent video! Thanks a lot! Would it make sense to wear a synthetic tee (e.g. Craft Be Active Comfort) as a base layer and then a long sleeve SmartWool (Merino 250) as your midlayer (altought it's a base layer for winter) and then a Rab Kintetic Plus Jacket as a wind layer? I'm really asking about the merino in between two synthetic layers. Does it make sense to wear merino between layers just to give you a bit more of warmth or would a dynamic fleece be better because it doesn't trap water inside? I'm thinking about trekking with a backpack on. Thanks!
Hi Persy. A mid-weight Merino "baselayer" would perform just as well as a light "midlayer" over a synthetic tee. The Kinetic Plus would also act as a light wind layer, although you may find the breathability a bit of an issue if it's not raining and you're working hard. A light weight softshell would work better as a wind layer as it breathes so much better and will be stronger under your backpack strap; something like this - www.trekitt.co.uk/39104/products/rab-mens-borealis-jacket-firecracker.aspx. Thanks for watching. Paul.
@@trekitt I watched Trekitt's review of Kinetic Plus and I fell in love with that piece, also because of its beautiful colour (Persy is just a nick, I'm a girl) and decided to buy it. I agree, breathability might be a bit of an issue but most of the time I ride a bike (not trek) and it protects my neck perfectly with just a tee underneath. Also, I didn't want to take out a hard gore-tex pro shell every time it rained so I really really like it. Thanks for the light midlayer opinion. I will try it out then. Your reviews are so great that I although I have a down jacket, I decided to put Arc'teryx Atom LT on my shopping list :) I will wait for a nice colour though. I think I watched your layering videos like 3-4 times already. Great job!
@@trekitt Thanks Paul, I'm a happy owner of both the Kinetic Plus and Borealis Jacket now :) they're both lovely but also very different. The latter, which you recommended, perfoms amazingly well in summer. I'm amazed how warm you can be while cycling and only with a tee underneath. Thanks again!
Hi Paul / Trekitt. Any chance of an updated version of this please as all the suggestions are completely out of stock, not just with yourself but everywhere?
Hi Greg. The principles have remained the same for decades, and the clothing in the video is still available (albeit updated) For instance the Arteryx Atom LT - www.trekitt.co.uk/40263/premium/arcteryx-mens-atom-lt-hoody-kingfisher.aspx
It's just a case of finding relevant product to suit your needs. We'd have to update this type of video twice a year to keep up! Thanks for watching. Paul.
I know this video is old. Do they still have the ventus jacket?? If they still is it still the same name or something else? I always enjoy watching your videos!!
Rab now produce the Borealis which is fairly similar: www.trekitt.co.uk/clothing/jackets/rab-mens-borealis-tour-jacket-deep-ink__43243
Very useful tips there, thanks. Just out of interest, do you stock/ sell the Rab Ventus Pull On or has it been discontinued/ replaced? Andy
Ventus has been discontinued, the new version is called the Borealis. The Borealis Pull-On is hooded and the Borealis Tour is non-hooded. We only stock the Borealis Pull-On, but I'll pop a link below if you want to have a closer look. Regards, Harry.
www.trekitt.co.uk/facetresults.aspx?Term=borealis
can you do one on waterproof jackets i have a rab down poor and i get more wet from sweat than the rain thanks
Have a watch of this: th-cam.com/video/4GlHQKvlUfw/w-d-xo.html
Fountain of knowledge
That he is! Harry.
I'm new to extremely cold climates I come from the southern part of the states where the coldest that it gets is 30 for like one day a year rest of the time it's in the 80s to 90s last year I moved up to the border with Canada here is where it gets interesting I got a job in a big rig 18 wheeler shop as a truck washer and the wash bay isn't heatedquit often in the winter after I've washed two or three trucks and I'm dripping wet I'll have to either go out in the wether and start a truck or beat the brakes on a truck because of ice build up now what I need to now is how many layers should I have on and what should they be
I'm afraid I won't be able to tell you exactly how many and which layers to wear, as it's a pretty personal thing and depends largely on how warm you are as a person, which layers you currently wear, how warm you get while working, etc. It sounds like you could benefit from something with a good amount of synthetic insulation and a waterproof membrane though - have a look at the Arc'teryx Fission SV. You'll also want a fairly warm moisture-wicking baselayer (Icebreaker make some great Merino wool options) which will increase warmth even further. Then, with those two layers, you can decide whether you need any more warmth and can adapt from there. Kind regards, Harry.
Why would you have the insulation layer over the wind layer I would think it would be the other way around? I would think the wind layer would help keep the heat in the insulation layer and that would keep you warmer?
It depends on the scenario. If you were moving a little faster and just had a baselayer, midlayer and wind layer, then the insulating layer could be added over the top when you stop to provide extra warmth. If you're moving a little slower in colder conditions, then the insulating layer can be worn underneath the wind layer during your activity. Kind regards, Harry.
thats a great for a novice like me, will you be doing on on trousers?
Most of the same principles of this video will apply to trousers as well, so we don't currently plan to make a legwear-specific one. Personally, I use a pair of Mountain Equipment Ibex trousers during autumn/winter with no further layers on underneath unless it's below 0°C. If it's tipping it down, a set of hardshell trousers can easily be layered over the top. Nice and simple! Kind regards, Harry.
Very informative video. Thanks for all your detail and great to see it was your own personal items, not a sponsored product.
I think the addition of a 1970s Open University guy in a white lab coat and pointing stick would be good.
*immediately purchases both for next time *
@@trekitt 😂😂😂
fantastic video but what about on the legs, for shell etc
Legwear is pretty easy. Softshell trousers for the majority of the year here in the UK, with baselayer leggings underneath if extremely cold and overtrousers layered on top if extremely wet.
What gloves are you using here?... great info!
Paul had packed a few options. The lightweight liner gloves were the Arc'teryx Rho Gloves, and the thicker ones were Black Diamond's Stance Gloves. Kind regards, Harry.
I’ve had some odd looks when I’m sticking an insulator over the waterproof. But then I’m comfortable and they’re not. 😄😄
Haha, queue the smug face
Would you still need thermal/insulating layers in summer? In doing the yorkshire 3 peaks in June and have no idea how to layer for this as im expecting all types of weather. Do I still need warm layers?
Layers are key for something like that, you may well experience all kinds of weather as you've mentioned. You should be taking spare insulating layers with you as a just in case. The other thing worth considering is a spare fresh baselayer to change into, especially if we get a summer this year (we can dream right?), swapping to a fresh baselayer will be much more comfortable if you've been working hard and end up getting pretty sweaty.
Good luck on the Yorkshire 3 peaks!
If you need more specific advice we'd be more than happy to help via our customer service team, feel free to reach out and they will be able to talk you through some best practices. Call 01432 263335 or email support@trekitt.co.uk
I really hate having too many zippers at the same spot. Newbie here and still learning.
the way i do it,
Uniqlo Regular Heattech Turtleneck/Crewneck (call me weird but it works well for me)
Arcteryx Atom AR
TNF Dryzzle Jacket
Hi Froilan, that's not weird if it works for you. Keep enjoying your adventures. Paul.
Hey Paul, I’m kind of a tweeter in Arcteryx sizes. I’m roughly 6’0 and 195lbs (88-89kg), 33 inch waist athletic build and broad shoulders. I want to be able to layer a Beta lt as a shell over an Atom lt for an Iceland trip. Do you have a size recommendation for the Beta?
I'd probably go for a large based on the measurements above; medium will be too snug with layers on underneath. If it isn't quite the right size, you can always send it back to us for a full refund as long as it's in the same condition as when it arrived. Kind regards, Harry,
I wear USGI level 1 polartec silks as my base layer and USGI level 2 polartec grid as my mid layer.
Would you wear a water proof layer underneath an atom AR if it were raining&cold or would you put it over the atom AR?
It depends; if you were walking in sub-zero temperatures and could comfortably wear the Atom AR as a midlayer with a shell over the top, then this would be a good option, however if it was too warm to wear an Atom AR as a midlayer and you were simply wearing a baselayer and then your shell, then you could pop the Atom over the top of the shell when you stop (to have lunch, for example). I hope that helps!