@@ThatTattooShow Thanks. Good idea. I find it's a balance to cover well and also be able to change the needle depth. It's fine if using one needle but I find the depth changes when swapping needle sizes.
Perhaps some of the earlier batch didn’t have them. I have a new flux which has the sticker on them. Try reaching out to FK see if they will send you one.
in your opinion compared to a Cheyenne unlimited 3.5 how's the 2.5 exo? even softer? got to run it faster? im more into black and gray realism and micro realism love the videos thanks a lot for doing this
It’s softer yes, depending on how you tattoo and what effect you want to achieve etc then voltage will vary. I run mine between 6v and 8v depending on what I’m doing. If I’m doing detailed stuff I run it slower. Hope that answers your question. appreciate the comment :)
Great video just want to say your both Awesome 🤩 I’m originally from Hereford UK and I’m now apprenticing in South Bay California and you guys remind me of home I frigging love it! Beautiful Uk beautiful fella... just a little bit of Cardiff lingo like.
Thank you for the review! I really want one! I have been reading about it none stop! I have an inkjeta now but I hear this is the only way to go is FKirons EXO!
Also I would say that if you haven’t already looked up the abilities on the app. You should! The app dark lab allows you to change the give through the battery making it softer or harder depending on the type of work you’re trying to accomplish. Just a little note for you!
So I have always used FKs, picked up a 4.0 exo with the two batteries. My question is the give on the Dark labs App for the flux .... does the EXO have this feature?
@@ThatTattooShow So all I can find on the E-Give are videos on TH-cam showing E-give using the Hoover power supply. The app only allows me to Bluetooth to EXO and update firmware, maybe I am missing something on the App to pull up E-give feature just for the Powerbolt?
In my opinion the bishop wand doesn’t compare to the flux. I had a go of a bishop wand but I wasn’t a fan of it. If I can get hold of another one I’ll do a video.
For the kind of fineline dot stuff would you go for 2.5 instead of the 3.4 as well? I got the fluid 4.0 and it’s already crazy what it does but I’m looking at something to work with single needles and 3RL.
That’s down to personal preference I think. I know people that do fine line work with a 4mm stroke machine. Equally I know artists that can do everything thrown at them with a 2.5mm I suppose it comes down to what you are comfortable working with.
@@ThatTattooShow awesome to know cause that’s the one I just ordered. I’m in love with the Flux , I just think it’s so slow when it lines compared to my Dan Kubin... I come from coils originally and it seems I can’t line at the same speed as with a coil or a DK.
Just set the needle back for 4mm but the 2.5 moves quicker technically by physics standard so it is more efficient and probly runs less battery over time.
@@ThatTattooShow which model would suit what type of style and how much they vary in where they feel to use both with and without e-give. and what type of e-give you would use and why. these are just ideas
In the daily use which machine do you find more comfortable to work with is it the Flux or exo? I know that that the exo is built to have a better ergonomic and a different weight balance than the flux. But practically it could be different. Otherwise the 4mm stroke should performs equally on both machines. Everyone would have different opinions what suits better in the hand but I haven’t haven’t hold one of them before. Also what Maschine is practically better and easier to wrap/cover in your opinion?
Good question. I have found that the standard 33mm grip is more comfortable for line work. Although that’s more of a personally preference. Wrapping wise they are both the same tbh. I don’t change how I wrap them because one of the grips is larger etc.
Hey brother. Love your videos! So I have had the Flux since it came out. Love everything about it. I’m looking to buy a back up, slighter different machine and I have my eyes on this bad boy. I do mainly black and grey and colour realism. Should I grab the 3.2 swing? I’m thinking that would be the best of both worlds for what I do, as the flux has a 4mm. I’d love your thoughts on this my friend? I’m totally sold on FK Irons now just per the flux, and the E give option is a game changer. Thanx again bro! Take care and hope you can help, reaffirm my decision…
Presuming the grips from the exo are cross compatible also ? Absolutely love the flux, will probably end up picking up a exo in the 2.5 at some point Thanks for the review !
I like the 2.5 for black and grey and the 3.2 I have been using it this last few weeks and it’s great for some things although it’s all down to personal preference. but yeah totally it’s the exact same drive system. Just different grip, stroke length and has an rca module.
@@ThatTattooShow i was really hoping it to be more of a difference, theyre good machines! I wish they had a 3,7 stroke that would be perfect! Im thinking about trying the stigma force
Tbh I think 3.7 is to close to 4.0 for there to be much of a difference. Having the shorter stroke works much better for being able to layer colour without causing to much irritation to the skin and for slowing you to create a lot smoother black and grey more efficiently. Don’t get me wrong I can get smooth b&g with a flux 4.0 but it’s far more efficient using that shorter stroke and give a nicer effect in my opinion.
@@ThatTattooShow yeah true it would be very close that stroke but it still would hit a little different like the xion 3,7 ! I’m getting smooth shades with the 4.0 no problem but sometimes with black n grey its a little to hard. It’s just to bad the strokes aren’t interchangeable in the new machines haha that would be so nice
How about the 3,2 stroke is good ?? Before I'm buying i just want to know from the experience like you. Couse is expensive machine and i don't want to be disappointed couse i chose the wrong choice 😁😁
@@ThatTattooShow ok then but i think 4.0 is not good for soft shading right?? Thank u so much the answers is very helpful couse i live in Bali, indonesia which is if i buying the exo the shipping and tax cost me alot of money and I don't wanna making a wrong decision. And i hope i can get a give away the exo from u but is impossible couse I'm far away🤣🤣🤣🤣 @Ngurahsenda that's my Instagram Thank u for the answer🙏🏻
The 4.0 you can get soft shading if using the right technique and needles etc. But the shorter stroke will be better and more efficient. I think the 3.2 could be a good solution as you would be having the best of both. I’ve tattooed myself with the xion in 3.2 stroke and it was nice and smooth for shade. It also packed the black in.
Love your videos and always well explained! Just need to ask one question as I want to buy either the Exo or Flux. Which stoke would you recommend for line working? As I mostly work line-work and whipped shading. Thanks a lot and keep it up! 😊
Color realism is so dope with the 3.2 i really like it for bng and even though its a short stroke i can line with it up to a 9rl but i really thi k the 2.5 us too short for my liking
@@ThatTattooShow i dont own the 2 .5 i have the 3. 2 but i remember the spirit i had a snag or two cause of the stroke might just be me and i was just coming from coils ever since ive been weary of using such a short stroke but i want to try it all i do is bng....i never got the sol luna but i definetely want to try it one of my coworkers uses a 2.5 mm stroke and extremely low volts and he does really good bng realism
Good video and shirt eh! But yeah, i'm thinking of getting an exo myself soon, it's my new favourite machine for sure. But if you're giving one away, I'll definitely stay tuned and maybe I'll be the lucky winner so I can save myself $1000 haha
I think all this new technology is leaving me behind. I have two of the 4mm spectra flux machines. I love them although a do find black n grey a lil harder then full colour with them. I would really be interested in a full comparison on the workings of the 4mm 3.5mm and 2.5mm machines. Great show guys!
@@adamwilhelmgabor6622 i have the xion as well with gorilla grip still in my draw since the exo arrived its worth the money 💰 and so much freedom with the battery packs love it 😀
Powerbolts are pure junk. They do not hold a charge beyond a day. If I fully charge them, the very next day the are dead. Tried updating firmware, no difference.
I have the 3.2 it lines beautiful and does grey wash incredible
What voltage do you run for lining and shading on the 3.2 please
I just ordered my number 2 3.2 exo black ops I love my 4.0
have u tried lining with putting a little give on I have a 3.2mm exo
What cover do you use to wrap the EXO? I have to use a small bag on each end right now because I can’t find a large enough cord cover.
I was using barrier film that sticks to the grip then using xl size clip cord covers.
@@ThatTattooShow Thanks. Good idea. I find it's a balance to cover well and also be able to change the needle depth. It's fine if using one needle but I find the depth changes when swapping needle sizes.
The con is that still no disposable grips for none of them
Wich one for all rounder, Im doing with micro with 1RL, tribals with lot of black packing and letters?
No bullshit or beatin around the Bush in this review,good job!
Any chance to give a review on the 2.5 for black and gray as there is no video on the stoke. Thank you!!!
The 2.5 is good for black and grey.
Also check the exo video, which machine is best for you.
Hi, I just received the EXO 3.2 from Killer Ink, but there’s no sticker on the inside like you’ve mentioned
Perhaps some of the earlier batch didn’t have them. I have a new flux which has the sticker on them. Try reaching out to FK see if they will send you one.
Hello j’ai déjà la exo 3.2, la exo 2.5 convient elle avec tout les magnums meme les 27 ?
Merci de ta réponse 🙏
I have Cheyenne Spirit and really 2.5mm is very good for black and grey.I,m going to have Exo sometime in the distant future,great video,cao.
in your opinion compared to a Cheyenne unlimited 3.5
how's the 2.5 exo?
even softer?
got to run it faster?
im more into black and gray realism and micro realism
love the videos thanks a lot for doing this
It’s softer yes, depending on how you tattoo and what effect you want to achieve etc then voltage will vary. I run mine between 6v and 8v depending on what I’m doing. If I’m doing detailed stuff I run it slower.
Hope that answers your question. appreciate the comment :)
@@ThatTattooShow hi, i got an ulimited 4.0 and im looking to get a pen machine for bng. Think i should go with the 2.5 exo ?
Is this a good upgrade from the xion?
I’ve used both and I think so yes. Unless you have the xion for the adjustable give feature. The exo is direct drive.
That tattoo show
I bought only the wired version and wondering does it still perform good without e give?
Hi chris here. I never use E-give and they perform great.
Great video just want to say your both Awesome 🤩 I’m originally from Hereford UK and I’m now apprenticing in South Bay California and you guys remind me of home I frigging love it! Beautiful Uk beautiful fella... just a little bit of Cardiff lingo like.
Thankyou!
Thank you for the review! I really want one! I have been reading about it none stop! I have an inkjeta now but I hear this is the only way to go is FKirons EXO!
Also I would say that if you haven’t already looked up the abilities on the app. You should! The app dark lab allows you to change the give through the battery making it softer or harder depending on the type of work you’re trying to accomplish. Just a little note for you!
we had early access to the app, there's a few videos we have made discussing the feature etc.
Flux max and exo same motors???
Yes
So I have always used FKs, picked up a 4.0 exo with the two batteries. My question is the give on the Dark labs App for the flux .... does the EXO have this feature?
It does have the feature but it’s controlled on the battery. We have a few videos about the app. It shows how to control the give etc.
@@ThatTattooShow So all I can find on the E-Give are videos on TH-cam showing E-give using the Hoover power supply. The app only allows me to Bluetooth to EXO and update firmware, maybe I am missing something on the App to pull up E-give feature just for the Powerbolt?
Nice video bro...I had a flux... for black and grey and script with 3rl do you think better I get exo 3.2 or 2.5?
What voltage do you run for lining on the 4.0 Flux
Hey Chris, i wonder did you have the chance to compare bishop wand packer and fk exo/flux 4.0, since i am really stuck between the two
In my opinion the bishop wand doesn’t compare to the flux. I had a go of a bishop wand but I wasn’t a fan of it. If I can get hold of another one I’ll do a video.
@@ThatTattooShow was it the packer wand or shader ?
It was the Packer I think. Was a while ago now. I’ll deffo get hold of another one just to double check.
@@ThatTattooShow thanks a lot man, would be really great to see a comparision between exo and wand packer 👍🏻
It might be a while cause I’ll have to find a friend who hasn’t sold theirs.
For the kind of fineline dot stuff would you go for 2.5 instead of the 3.4 as well? I got the fluid 4.0 and it’s already crazy what it does but I’m looking at something to work with single needles and 3RL.
That’s down to personal preference I think. I know people that do fine line work with a 4mm stroke machine. Equally I know artists that can do everything thrown at them with a 2.5mm
I suppose it comes down to what you are comfortable working with.
@@ThatTattooShow never tried a 2.5 stroke. Been working mostly with 3.2 and 4.0. But I’m definitely interested in this one.
So I’ve been using the 3.2 exo this week. I’d go with that for fine line and dot work stuff.
@@ThatTattooShow awesome to know cause that’s the one I just ordered. I’m in love with the Flux , I just think it’s so slow when it lines compared to my Dan Kubin... I come from coils originally and it seems I can’t line at the same speed as with a coil or a DK.
Just set the needle back for 4mm but the 2.5 moves quicker technically by physics standard so it is more efficient and probly runs less battery over time.
hope you make a video where you compare all 3 stroke lengths
What would you like to know?
@@ThatTattooShow which model would suit what type of style and how much they vary in where they feel to use both with and without e-give. and what type of e-give you would use and why. these are just ideas
Have you read the description? I cover some of the things in that.
@@ThatTattooShow I'd still like to hear a more indepth breakdown on the different strokes, biggest hurdle for me.
Nice vid. Like always!
Thanks again!
In the daily use which machine do you find more comfortable to work with is it the Flux or exo? I know that that the exo is built to have a better ergonomic and a different weight balance than the flux. But practically it could be different. Otherwise the 4mm stroke should performs equally on both machines. Everyone would have different opinions what suits better in the hand but I haven’t haven’t hold one of them before. Also what Maschine is practically better and easier to wrap/cover in your opinion?
Good question.
I have found that the standard 33mm grip is more comfortable for line work. Although that’s more of a personally preference.
Wrapping wise they are both the same tbh. I don’t change how I wrap them because one of the grips is larger etc.
My Exo doesn’t have that sticker with the stroke length 🤔
I believe some of the earlier models or the first batches may not have had them.
Does the grip from EXO fits to the Flux body?
Yes
Hey brother. Love your videos! So I have had the Flux since it came out. Love everything about it. I’m looking to buy a back up, slighter different machine and I have my eyes on this bad boy. I do mainly black and grey and colour realism. Should I grab the 3.2 swing? I’m thinking that would be the best of both worlds for what I do, as the flux has a 4mm. I’d love your thoughts on this my friend? I’m totally sold on FK Irons now just per the flux, and the E give option is a game changer. Thanx again bro! Take care and hope you can help, reaffirm my decision…
What do I need to do to win the fk machine that would be great
That will be announced once we figure out what we want to do.
Nice video brother.
Presuming the grips from the exo are cross compatible also ?
Absolutely love the flux, will probably end up picking up a exo in the 2.5 at some point
Thanks for the review !
Yeah it’s all cross compatible between the flux and exo.
Bought it and sold it the same dat haha the 3.2 was too soft for me :) liked the grip and weight but its just a flux with a different grip
I like the 2.5 for black and grey and the 3.2 I have been using it this last few weeks and it’s great for some things although it’s all down to personal preference. but yeah totally it’s the exact same drive system. Just different grip, stroke length and has an rca module.
@@ThatTattooShow i was really hoping it to be more of a difference, theyre good machines! I wish they had a 3,7 stroke that would be perfect! Im thinking about trying the stigma force
Tbh I think 3.7 is to close to 4.0 for there to be much of a difference. Having the shorter stroke works much better for being able to layer colour without causing to much irritation to the skin and for slowing you to create a lot smoother black and grey more efficiently. Don’t get me wrong I can get smooth b&g with a flux 4.0 but it’s far more efficient using that shorter stroke and give a nicer effect in my opinion.
@@ThatTattooShow yeah true it would be very close that stroke but it still would hit a little different like the xion 3,7 ! I’m getting smooth shades with the 4.0 no problem but sometimes with black n grey its a little to hard. It’s just to bad the strokes aren’t interchangeable in the new machines haha that would be so nice
How about the 3,2 stroke is good ?? Before I'm buying i just want to know from the experience like you. Couse is expensive machine and i don't want to be disappointed couse i chose the wrong choice 😁😁
The 3.2 is nice yes, I just personally prefer the 2.5 and 4.0.
@@ThatTattooShow ok then but i think 4.0 is not good for soft shading right?? Thank u so much the answers is very helpful couse i live in Bali, indonesia which is if i buying the exo the shipping and tax cost me alot of money and I don't wanna making a wrong decision.
And i hope i can get a give away the exo from u but is impossible couse I'm far away🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Ngurahsenda that's my Instagram
Thank u for the answer🙏🏻
The 4.0 you can get soft shading if using the right technique and needles etc. But the shorter stroke will be better and more efficient.
I think the 3.2 could be a good solution as you would be having the best of both. I’ve tattooed myself with the xion in 3.2 stroke and it was nice and smooth for shade. It also packed the black in.
Love mine !!!
Love your videos and always well explained!
Just need to ask one question as I want to buy either the Exo or Flux. Which stoke would you recommend for line working? As I mostly work line-work and whipped shading.
Thanks a lot and keep it up! 😊
Thanks.
I’d say either the 3.2 exo 4.0 exo or flux.
@@ThatTattooShow awesome :D thanks a lot for your reply!! 😊
Nice video! Looking forward to the give away!
Good luck!
Color realism is so dope with the 3.2 i really like it for bng and even though its a short stroke i can line with it up to a 9rl but i really thi k the 2.5 us too short for my liking
3.2 is nice but I preferred the 2.5 for black and grey.
@@ThatTattooShow i dont own the 2 .5 i have the 3. 2 but i remember the spirit i had a snag or two cause of the stroke might just be me and i was just coming from coils ever since ive been weary of using such a short stroke but i want to try it all i do is bng....i never got the sol luna but i definetely want to try it one of my coworkers uses a 2.5 mm stroke and extremely low volts and he does really good bng realism
In all honesty i cant afford another machine id like to have the other ones but geez they are quite pricey
What voltage do you run for lining and shading on the 3.2? Please
Good video and shirt eh! But yeah, i'm thinking of getting an exo myself soon, it's my new favourite machine for sure. But if you're giving one away, I'll definitely stay tuned and maybe I'll be the lucky winner so I can save myself $1000 haha
I think all this new technology is leaving me behind. I have two of the 4mm spectra flux machines. I love them although a do find black n grey a lil harder then full colour with them. I would really be interested in a full comparison on the workings of the 4mm 3.5mm and 2.5mm machines. Great show guys!
Sorry 3.2mm
Flux 4.0 and Exo 4.0 same thing?
Same drive mechanism yes. Just different grip and rca module
Awesome 😎
Thanks 🤗
Nice
Thanks
Got my black ops with batteries it’s bad asss can’t fking put it down 😀😀😀
Sir, can You compire it to Xion ? I use xion 3.2 . And idk its a lot of money.
@@adamwilhelmgabor6622 i have the xion as well with gorilla grip still in my draw since the exo arrived its worth the money 💰 and so much freedom with the battery packs love it 😀
I would love to just to get to tattoo with it
Powerbolts are pure junk. They do not hold a charge beyond a day. If I fully charge them, the very next day the are dead. Tried updating firmware, no difference.
Better then Valhalla
Haven’t used the Valhalla so can’t comment.
I hate the exo, sold it as soon as someone would buy it lol