HTC Vive Focus 3 & HTC Vive Pro 2 - Everything You NEED To Know
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2024
- I cover everything you need to know about the brand new HTC Vive Focus 3 & HTC Vive Pro 2 VR headsets! In this video, I'll give you all the information on the specs, design, FOV, resolution, price, controllers, release date and much much more...
Check out the new Vive Pro 2 & Vive Focus 3 from HTC here;
www.vive.com
You can register for Vivecon 2021 here;
www.vive.com/uk/vivecon2021
Timestamps;
00:00 - Intro
01:06 - HTC Vive Pro 2
05:13 - HTC Vive Focus 3
09:44 - Final Thoughts
Let me know what you think about the new HTC Vive Focus 3 and HTC Vive Pro 2 in the comments below?
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Well, that's disappointing. I was really hoping to see some competition for the Quest. Hopefully in the near future they will not just market their standalone for business.
The ceo of htc stated their next standalone would not compete with quest 2
I knew there wasn't gonna be one, just curious what it would be like
coming from an index i already have all the steam vr gear. paired wiht an rtx 3090 im totally vibing with the pro 2. just pre-ordered it :)
@@jonathanelkin3830 same its a big upgrade over the index in my opinion as a already have the controllers and basestations
Yeah major disappointment. That leaked cloth fitness headset was awesome. I was really hoping that was real. Vive Focus 3 looks cool too but I don't understand who they think there market is for that.
Everything I needed to know was that neither one is for my budget xD
Same bro, same.
Sticking with quest 2
If Facebook chose the vive focus 3 spec and put it in a quest 2 pro I'd pay £600-£800. 120⁰ FOV and IPD.all the way up to 72mm would swing it for me.
Yeah, but only if it had 120hz (and even if it didn't I'd probably still get it but for a little less)
It would be really cool but they need to make some solutions for heating and battery. I think 120Hz should be the new standard for VR but this could generate a lot of heat in the long run. The battery swap feature is really cool and I would like to see it in Quest 3.
@@SoMNoMW I'd take a wider FOV then 120hz personally. You have to make trade offs somewhere, 90 fps is pretty good.
The price point is not bad... if they had included controllers with it.
One has horrible controllers, the other doesn't have outside out tracking... Worthless.
@@Nekotaku_TV hopefully u can play with knuckles controllers if u have some base stations, I heard you can use the index controllers with the oculus quest 2 so I'm sure if u were planning on getting the vive focus 3 and were planning on playing it with the index controllers then I'm sure they will have that option to merge those two. Provided that u have some base stations on u for the controllers
I'm not really sure why anyone would buy the full Vive pro 2 kit for $1400 when you can buy the headset from HTC and the base stations and far superior Index controllers from Valve for $1380.
Can you even buy the stations? Are they in stock now?
@@ZoKKeRFreAK Not right now, but that's likely due to the chip shortage. Assuming they get their supply lines sorted out that won't be an issue by next year.
Agree, I don't know why they won't update their dated controller design.
@@Arsonist00 I had the same controller in 2017 when I first started this VR c****
@@ZoKKeRFreAK I got mine from a regular online shop for hardware and it's still available. At the vive website it seems available, too. But both prices are at 200 instead of 160€.
Appreciate you mentioning directly to Vive that you think there's a market for a consumer version of the Focus 3 at a Quest 2 2x price point. I think you're right, and I would definitely buy something like that even at a $800-$900 price point.
I upgraded to the Vive Pro 2 from my original Vive, ordering it during the release event. It is an excellent update, comfortable fit and amazing resolution. I detached the ear pieces (the box had plastic covers to protect the contacts thankfully), not because they were bad, but because I use a full ear wireless headset with 7.1 surround and boom mic. I had the controllers / base stations from my old Vive and they work very well.
Coming from an original Vive was a huge step up in quality and res. 120 Hz (Varies depending on resolution) / 120 degrees of FOV. You will need a powerful graphics card to run this 5K beast. With a 3090 it is phenomenal.
Dang... first their phones, now their headsets. HTC is going to get outpaced if they keep playing it safe with these incremental updates RIP
it's too expensive, they basically gave up selling to normal people
@@Carnyzzle I still don't understand that argument completely. If the quest is essentially a smartphone with a few extra bells and whistles strapped to your face I don't really understand how it's not possible to strip back to the essentials for a comfortable consumer experience but design a product that is modular and has opportunity for future attachments and upgrades. We have the tech to make it cheaper and I still don't buy that Facebook is subsidizing quest 2 revenue with data sales
@@rapidey3movement360 It's data sales to third parties, store sales and personal advertising from Facebook
@Carnyzzle the materials and manufacturing required for the bare minimum of comfort and functionality in a headset would only cost the consumer like $4-500 in order for companies to make a profit without third party bs. Hell Vive could have given us the enterprise device for $8-900 and marketed it as a pro standalone and would have made bank
It's like they want people to screw themselves, as if they don't do that already.
Finally!!! An upgrade for my Index!
delighted to hear that the wireless kit also works with the new vive pro 2. for me, as i already own lighthouse tracking, index controllers and the vive pro wireless kit, the vive pro 2 seems to be the perfect upgrade.. im eager to see the reviews once there out.
Such a missed opportunity with the focus 3. Even if they pitched it at 800-900 there will be people who would pick it over the Quest 2.
It has no games other than fake vr crap from the andriod store, lmfao. No one wants it.
@@evolicious not true not everyone has a pc to do pc vr so the quest 2 is perfect 👌 for that reason alone
@@evolicious there are plenty of games for the quest that could be ported over relatively easily, plus there is wireless PCVR which is a huge selling point in itself.
@@Arsonist00 yeah I agree and how portable it is I can just take it to my friends house and just play with them that's huge for me and it's both pc vr if you have a pc and it's a stand alone so best of both worlds
I have my quest 2 and only use it for pc vr because I like the wireless and inside out tracking ..I would buy focus 3 ..wish we started having 200 fov as the norm tho
I’ll keep my quest 2 and virtual desktop
cool :D
dont forgret airlink
@@mufradr airlink still doesn't work with a lot of GPUs unfortunately
@@NeytozINF I didn't know that luckily it works for my friends that just got it
@@RawWrath Good for them! I wasn't so lucky, but VD works great
What I find most impressive about all this is that everyone detests Facebook but they always blow us away so much that we look the other way. HTC is well liked but they literally never fail to disappoint
HTC don't know what their doing. Stick with Quest & PSVR2 ! Between them they will bring proper VR gaming experiences and advanced, seamless VR software.
@@Art-Sin neither of those devices are anything like the dedicated vr system experience.
Facebook doesn't bother me, if I log into my xbox with xbox live it doesn't degrade the platform or give me a lesser experience so logging into Facebook does what in a degrading sense?. its just a means of logging in I don't see the problem. the thing I find contradictory is most people that moan about this have a Facebook account.
Love or hate Facebook all you want, you gotta admit that they know what they're doing when it comes to vr
@@dazlee3449 How much are you being paid by Facebook?
I'm very happy they announced a vive pro 2. Just upgraded to 4 x 2.0 base stations. I have the wireless adapter as well. I'm wondering if that compression may improve the wireless adapter functionality as well.
Nice to see they balanced the Focus 3 with the battery. Hope other future VR wireless headsets follow.
Upgraded to vivepro 2 today and used the promo code which worked perfectly (UK). It's the FOV, refresh rate and 5k that does it for me the build quality on the headset has always been very good. I would have liked the headset to look different. Updated looks will have given a wow factor just for aesthetics and maybe lighter but hey it is what it is. I already have the wireless add on which of course is supposed to work with the new headset. So a 5K wireless headset hmmm I wonder what It will be like. Can't wait! Thanks for the vids Mike 😁
I just placed Vive Pro 2 on preorder. I have been using the original Vive since it launched. The one thing I didn't know until watching this video was if I needed to buy new bay stations. So glad to know I can use the ones i have, so for me this will be a great upgrade at min cost.
Its base stations NOT bay stations lol
The vive pro 2 is what I am interested in. I have the index currently and the bump in resolution seems promising and being able to use my existing trackers and controllers makes it an easy upgrade
No BMR, same bulky and heavy HMD, old outdated controllers, HTC QC and support, smaller FOV. It could be a downgrade compared to the Index.
@@evolicious I would use my existing index controllers and trackers as I mentioned. The FOV difference is negligible (especially since its not a static 130 on the index) but the resolution is a significant increase. Weight is basically the same on them as well.
@@blindsay still missing out on BMR and comfort. I wouldn't hold my breath for the pro 2 actually being better overall, but would be great as the highest quality wireless HMD.
@@evolicious Comfort is completely subjective and personal, BMR are just fancy over the ear speakers. Audio is much easier to modify to your preference but the screen you cannot change. I had a Rift S for a while which had garbage for audio.
This was the best VR news since the valve index controllers. I love my vive pro, and the index was a no go since it's not wireless. I have 4 quests for my family, but no tracking works as well as the Steam VR system. Vive knocked it out of the park for me, by marrying the best features of the index, with the wireless adapter and increasing the resolution; while eliminating the Screen Door effect. I say Good Job to HTC.
I've waited for a while to check on what htc is working. guess I'll have to get myself a quest 2 :/
I know you might be sad about Facebook requirment but trust me the headset is great
@@birdah8 yeah looks like I'm getting a quest 2. I hate the Facebook login but it definitely is an amazing headset especially from the price
Can't believe you waited this long to get one.
Wait for Decagear, they may be a good cheaper competitor.
@@That_Guy42 what if he doesn't have a pc? (like the main reason people buy the quest)
Always great content!
Why in the world are they still using the Vive Wands? I thought we'd moved on from that style. Just look at literally any other current headset, and analog sticks are a must for one.
Because they know everyone buys index controllers anyways, isnt worth of research and desing competive controllers.
been a while since i watched a vr news video, i gotta catch up cuz THIS IS FIRE!
love your content
Cheers Joshua! []-)
Really like the look of the Focus3 and the swap-able battery is a great idea.
I made a cartridge for an extra battery on my Quest which I can swap over when it gets low so I don't have to stop playing to recharge.
I like the higher resolution but I didn't hear anything about having direct video throughput with a cable like the new Pico neo has and without that it's not really going to provide images at that resolution.
I'll be sticking with my OLED ogQuest it seems.
Might look at the Pico Neo when it comes west?
Fun thing is that Mike literally dropped this video a minute before the "VIVEgone for Bruhsiness" started where these were presented officially for the first time...
2:51 HP Reverb "114" FOV :D
3:56 600 extra bucks for the old Wands (who _wands_ these anymore?) and the base stations, ooofff!
5:58 Finally someone does this. Had the idea a while ago already to have quadrophonic audio in the headstrap for better spatial sourround sound.
6:25 That display will be sick especially for flight simming. And finally we'll have a better FOV without using the Index with just 1600px vertical res or the Pimaxes. But the hardware requirements to run that will sick be as well :D
6:49 That is some awesome feature IMHO.
7:05 I imagine the thing having a regular battery at the front as well, otherwise the hot swapping wouldn't work. And having just the rear one only wouldn't cut it either.
7:37 That's great, so it's clearly not entirely business only. I hope they'll somehow make this thing a consumer headset as well, I mean, basically it would just need to have a store for games on it and wireless link. A stripped down "light" version would be nice as well, but I'd also like to have the _option_ to go for the full thing.
Also, when I got that right, the thing isn't locked behind a subscription model and you don't have to own a company to be able to buy the Focus 3 which is a good thing already. Yeah, it's expensive, but I'm sure there are people who would buy it if it could be fully used for gaming.
Love the look of the Focus and yeah, a stripped down version bundled with Vive Port would have been exactly what the market needed right now. Disappointed overall []-(
I feel ya mate []-/
Sitting through Vive Event: This is boring
*Notifications*
‘Everything you NEED TO KNOW about Vive Event’
“I would rather watch my favorite TH-camr explain it than watch this lady.” *click*
@El Triunfo showing the appreciation for the hardwork of our host here. and showing that he was actually watching the vivecon as well while letting us know he's quite an enthusiast:P
@El Triunfo if you need to ask a question like this I am surprised you figured out how to use youtube.
@El Triunfo Did you know that toddler watch TH-cam?
@El Triunfo Took you long enough. Maybe the ball pit at Chucky's cheese is more of your speed.
@El Triunfo Geez thanks, you're better than grammerly. Can I pay you with Chuck E Cheese tickets?
I've been holding out on a PC VR upgrade because I wanted something compatible with the Vive Wireless adapter that I already invested in, however it is important to note that the Pro 2 specs say that the display is limited to 90Hz when using the wireless adapter. Still, might be worth it for the big jump in resolution over the now 5 year old Vive.
Also wondering if the wireless adapter allows full resolution. The Specs say DisplayPort 1.4 or higher with DSC is required for Full Resolution mode
@@quagthias According to the main Vive Pro 2 page, the answer is sadly no. Not only is it limited to 90Hz instead of 120Hz, it is 2448x1224 resolution. Somehow lower than the original! It says 3264x1632 support is coming soon but, while slightly higher than the OG Vive Pro, that's still not the full 4896x2448.
@@sysfailure Ah thank you I didn't see that at the very bottom of the page
@@quagthias It is well hidden. Only the 90Hz bit was on the spec page when I looked. I had to find the resolution bit by scrolling down the main product page where they have all that stuff trying to show off features in a flashy way.
I play a lot of simulators so if I got a VR headset this sounds great due to the high resolution. Being able to see dials and readouts clearly is very important specially for flight sims like DCS world.
If I could obtain one for review that would have been amazing as these are way out my price range. Not sure about still using the base units, I think the inside tracking is the future.
I think you try to fit 'Whilst' into every one of your videos. :)
it’s literally his accent what lol
Vive Pro 2 pre ordered specifically for Sim Racing. Reverb G2 for sale soon assuming the Vive Pro 2 delivers!
I'm upgrading to the Vive Pro 2, I've been hanging out for a headset with a max IPD up to 72mm, the others are all too small at 68mm max. Not fussed about stand alone headsets.
My only hope is that the Focus 3 controllers are available separately, and use SteamVR Base station tracking.
Those coupled with the Index would be the definitive experience for me.
Vive CON! Who would have expected such transparency.
The valve index is yet the best overall
Yes. Please do video about pico neo.
love ur vids
Few questions:
1. Can you play games on the VIVE Focus 3?
2. Can you use the VIVE Focus 3s controllers with other VIVE headsets like Pro 1 or 2?
3. If "No" for question 2 are VIVE making any new controllers for the Pro 1 and 2. I know Valve Index knuckles are a good substitute I own a pair but I'd like a natural controller that doesn't feature finger detection as my hands sweat too much and mess with my gameplay as I can't let go of things all too often.
Wow know what I'm glad I bought the quest 2
Hi, I am considering the vive pro 2 as my first VR set. Which other bits do I need to play Half Life 2 Lynx? i.e controller / base unit? Can you post the item links please. Is vive pro 2 wireless out of the box like the quest 2? Is quest 2 better?
OMG I'm so excited! Similar to the Valve index, but better. That's a dream right there friends. And everyone hates the Vive Wands (Controllers), and would consider it a downside, but I absolutely CHERISH them! :D
I'm considering upgrading from my original Vive to the Vive Pro 2. But I'll definitely wait for your review of it first (assuming you'll get one for review)
I hope you've got a beasty GPU. On my 1060 6GB I could run everything on the vive with ease, but everything looked like I had vaseline smeared on my eyes. Got an index and its a massive difference, but now my PC struggles to keep up on a lot of games. To go even further for a pro2, be prepared to shell out for a new GPU or face horrible performance
its shit
mr.MYSTERIOUS,YT source?
Not disappointed, just intrigued. Oculus hasn't been resting on their laurels, they are working hard pushing development and updates to the Quest 2, and courting triple-A devs for content. The rumoured Quest Pro or Quest 3 will most likely feature similar specs when it's ready.
Either way is cool to see HTC Vive back in the game positively and showing how far enthusiast consumer VR hardware has come.
If I felt the need to upgrade my HMD, I'd go with the Vive Pro 2, but I'm still happy with my Index for now.
The high prices are nothing new from HTC, so unfortunately not overly surprising. I was really hoping to see a lower price for an all-in-one HMD, but maybe in a few months to a year. FB needs to have competition, there's no doubt about it.
Really waiting for the Wireless Steam VR test with this!
Are there any comparable VR headsets that's inside out tracking that connects to the PC that's NOT a quest 2? I like my Rift S, and when it breaks I need a replacement. And I want to get away from fakebook. Vive focus 3 im not getting the hint that you can play games with it. Just business and training and stuff like that.
Getting to the end of the video question: Hell id want that rough frame with all the changable parts/batteries and still be able to play games. I'll happily pay 1200 for this headset -if i can play games on it-
My god I want that consumer vive focus, please htc make that happen!
For those of us without (and having no interest in) a gaming PC but want PCVR quality experiences that mobile processors just can't deliver, I wish a company would produce a VR headset and base station bundle. The base station would be relatively small but contains desktop quality chipsets and streams the video / audio to the headset through direct and automatic wireless pairing and would also serve as a charging station for headset and controllers when docked on to it.
Thats not how any of this works. You are talking about high latency solutions for a product that needs far less latency to work.
Ill stick with my index for now. Im sure valve will make an updated version soon.
What can the Vive Focus 3 bring software wise as a standalone headset? I don't have a high powered gaming pc.
I'm waiting for the Vive Pro 2. I just hope the colors will be as bright as my Og Vive with Deluxe strap. I returned the Index because it was too dark & the extra FOV was filled with blur & god rays. Even the knuckles are screwed up. Holding a one handed weapon the barrel is off to the right by about 10°. You think someone at Valve would have designed the controller to somewhat aim like a weapon. IMHO Valve screwed the pooch. So here's to hoping the Pro 2 will be an improvement.
preordered
I just wish that something like the Vive Focus 3 got some kind of commercial version. It looks so awesome and would be so awesome for standalone gameplay. I would definitely pay $600 for a stripped down Vive Focus 3 made specifically for gaming. Absolutely I would.
I also wish I had the money for the Vive Pro 2. I’m only using a Quest 2 right now and that is so awesome for standalone, but I’m not happy with the performance on PC using Quest Link. The slight delay and the compression bothers me a lot, so I want a high end no compromises PC VR headset. The Vive Pro 2 looks awesome for that (but I’d definitely be getting the Knuckles controllers over the Vive wands, and that is even more money). I’m gonna wait until I get a career going and my own living situation sorted out after college (I have one more year of that) until I start purchasing high end stuff like this, but by then I’m sure there will be an Index 2 or something else along those lines. And by then I’ll probably be having to upgrade my PC even more.
I read an article that said the HTC Vive Focus 3 is a DIRECT competitor to the Quest 2 and I was like what is this guy smoking? In order to be a direct competitor to Quest 2 it would need to be priced the same or near the same price as the Quest 2. It looks like the Quest line of VR headsets will continue to be the King of VR headsets for the average consumer for MANY more YEARS to come!!!
Dude when I saw the price I was like 😔 ye this headset ain’t gonna sell much quest 2 definitely first pick.
Bit of a naff year for anyone wanting to upgrade their PCVR setup all the decent GPU's are out of stock and unavailable to order
I got w vice pro last year. Do u think i should sell it and buy the vive pro 2
I happy with those announcements. None of this XR bullsquish, HTC is fully committed to Virtual Reality
The FOV is still disappointingly low, but this is looking good enough to finally jump into the VR craze
encouraging direction. Hopefully enterprise actually invests in these headsets and then consumers will eventually get some of those next-gen developments (trickle-down). I'm not upset. Quest Pro will be a step forward. Privacy doesn't bother me because I don't spend tons of hours in VR.
Let enterprise beta test some of this early adopter tech. VR needs many perspectives to really be great.
Well get them anyway, these are mostly creature comfort upgrades that will be added once the price makes sense, and price of tech always goes down.
Am getting my quest 2 on Tuesday so I’ll get my first vr headset then
Pre ordering right now
For the moment I'm good with my Quest2
Hi Mike, Do you know about the storage ^^
Very disappointing that we still have no competitor for Facebook and Quest, the stand alone market seriously needs it. I would definitely put £500 or so down for a consumer version of the Focus 3
EXCITED
The Pro 2 will be my next headset.
My pc can barely run minecraft while you are able to run vr and at 4k. Thats insane compared to my 2012 dell pc
This is an awesome improvement. Once I upgrade my cpu i7 6700k I might be able to run it lol, my gpu I have a 6700xt. Soo in the future I will definitely grab one. The price sucks tho.
really wish the vive pro 2 had some wireless functionality, i know the og adapter was a thing but that was a bit rough; with a PCIe card and large antenna for 300 bucks
Thats how 60ghz has to work, and the vive pro 2 is compatible with the wigig adapter. The antenna is the smallest you can make it without occlusion issues.
The adapter still IS a thing, and that's what makes this so cool. The index, or Pimax or Reverb don't even have this option. Steam VR still has the best tracking system, especially for motion seat where trackers are in play. This is awesome.
Hopefully they'll make an adapter 2.0 where it's smaller and lighter
@@BlitzStudiosIsinsideyourhome You don't like the weight? I wear it alot, never bothered me. I hope adapter 2.0 comes out using 802.11ay. Supposedly that can send out 40 gigabits per second compared to the current 8 gbs of 802.11ad. Then we can really push some resolution and refresh rate.
@@yeshuasmc7436 Maybe not the weight but just the size cause it's fairly big, at least for me
What about the public release of the HP Reverb G2 OE?
They STILL haven’t thought to make new controllers for pcvr? Really? That’s just sad.
Immediately lost any interest in the new vive tech.
You can at least still use Valve Index knuckles controllers if you buy the headset on its own and order the controllers from Valve.
@@sleev1091 unfortunately i live in Australia, so i can’t get an index. I never would have bought the original vive pro if i was able to get an index.
I do however have the Etee controllers preordered, so i won’t have to use my vive wands much longer
@@Aiana3D why not have a friend in us have ut ship to them , then you pay to have it shipped to you . It’s more expensive but you would have it
@@ssj3vegett0 primarily because of warranty issues, and the fact that i can’t spend that amount of money at the moment. Maybe later on though, of my vive pro starts to fall apart even more
@@sleev1091 exactly. for me this makes perfect sense. why would i need controllers from htc, unless they were way better thean the index controllers, which is alomost impossible ;-)
Pro 2 looks surprisingly interesting... Just a shame I can barely run the index let alone even higher resolution. This will take a long time to be viable, just like the G2. Although the G2 has so many issues from being a WMR device that it cant really compete on anything
I’m quite tempted to get something to run some high quality PCVR games, but I feel this headset it just kind of “off” on what we all wanted? Like, the specs look great, but only the headset specs seem updated, like, a controller update would’ve been nice, seems a bit bittersweet.
Are the controllers and base stations that there launching in august exactly the same as the old ones?
Yes. Just buy the Base Station 2.0 and a pair of index controllers. Please do not buy their package. The vive wands are horrible, and honestly... No VR controller beats the index, which makes this the best VR news in a while. The option to do wireless pc VR with higher than index fidelity.
I have vive pro wit da blue controllers n 2.0 base stations that came with it.was thinkin of selling it,duno how to go about sellin it as be hard 2 sell the headset alone.might just but the headset so and index controllers
@@darrenpatton7250 That's a tough one. It might be a hard sell, but hardware is coming hard to find... so maybe not.
I always ask myself: is the enterprise market this huge and demanding of HTC Headsets, that HTC can live just from that? I can't see a benefit of upgrading my Index to an Vive Pro 2 (just the resolution - but that's not worth the cost)... Eyetracking would have been a killer feature together with the Face-Controller though...
Way better video than the Vive event Matteo streamed earlier 🤣
WAIT!!!!
Will the Vive Focus 3 have 120hz ? Just like the Valve Index or Oculus Quest 2? Will this be a feature that Vive will add as an update to the headset much like how Facebook did with the oculus quest 2 ? Don't get me wrong 90hz is great but with those visuals I would prefer playing it at 120hz if the headset even has that option which I'm hoping It does!!!
Well, if it uses the same screens as the Pro 2 it should be able to reach 120Hz.
I think the VP2 is a fantastic upgrade from OG Vive but need Knuckle controllers which makes it a 1200 + 600 upgrade which is exy. However I have not spent a cent onVR hardware for 3 years (upgraded sound) so I'm probably in.
1200 is with the wands, so not really 1200+600. You don't mention the currency but the knuckles are 300€. VP2 headset alone is 800€, then knuckles for 300€ and if you already have OG Vive you have the stations, so 1100€ with knuckles.
But I would wait for reviews, VP2 uses similar lens configuration as the Index for the FoV, but the glare is the worst issue with the Index for me.
so its a bit better than the reverb g2, but double the price, wow ;P
Sticking to those Vive wands just feels so dated, HTC loves to make new headsets but they haven't updated their controllers in ages (no the cosmos does not count IMO).
Still more viable upgrade paths for valve index or old Vive hmd users isn't a bad thing.
I would say that this is more than I expected from their headset announcements, but not by much. The quest definitely needs competitors but I don't think it's going to be HTC anytime in the near future in the standalone market.
The resolution needs a 3090 to drive, base station detection is old tech vs inside out tracking.
Yeah, ill wait for something that is an actual upgrade and doesn't cost double the price just for a resolution increase. What I want are better lenses, a lighter headset, a mic that isn't garbage, audio that compares to index, and eye/face tracking integrated into the headset. If it wasn't for the HP omnicept inside-out tracking that would be the best headset for me but they need lighthouse tracking for me to buy. Still waiting for headsets like this and I'm not giving a cent more until it comes.
i’m still vibin with my quest 2 and my link cable
why dont you use virtual desktop?..
*AirLink
@@Ailasor my internets bad and i just prefer the stable Link Cable
this is unfortunate. great to see all those pixels tho. was obviously hoping for better prices but it is what it is. hopefully, that headset from Singapore will kick ass
I just hope the PC specs for Pro 2 doesn't change, or it will cost me more than just buying a new headset 😭
Whats your PC specs at the moment?
I have an RTX 2070 and an i7 8th gen core processor so I'm sure I'm fine if I buy the vive pro 2. Hopefully its compatible with my PC specs!!!!
Just run it on a lower res in steam vr?
@@tylerdurden6917 if I doesn't work with a 2070 then it's not worth a purchase at all lol
@@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 that's the thing my dude!!! Lol I have to know !!!!
I was able to get a 3070 for 949 euro’s, otherwise i would have not be able to run the vive pro 2
"The vive focus 3 is only for business"
Me with a dad who has a business: hehehehehe
100% waiting for Quest killer. Would pay.
Not going to happen. The amount of money, time, and invested partnerships it took to just build the platform is unheard of currently. The hardware is not the issue.
I’d buy Focus 3 for $6-700 today! If Virtual Desktop would work on it, it would be a dream machine.
do you remember me Mike I was in big screen vr with you and you were playing Mario
I just want Valve to step up and also work on a cheap alternative, there's tons of people that do not want to buy the Quest but it's the only thing affordable at the moment.
Call it Vive Lite or smth plesssssss
Let's hope they release a Focus 3 for consumers for 600-800$. This would be a fair price compared with the Quest 2.
8:16 what's the headset on the bottom?
My question is can u play games on the focus 3
6:00 Hmm sort of a shame, me and my friends loved being able to hear what's happening in game as we took turns playing.
He said "privacy setting" so I assume you can toggle it
@@maugdw That would be cool, really strange setting though. I wonder how that works
Where do I preorder in the USA for $749. HTC's website is $799? Thanks !
Good day! A question for knowledgeable people! Yesterday I decided to make a factory recover on Oculus Quest 1 after resetting the settings, there was a firmware update and now after turning it on, a window with the inscription * your device is corrupted * pops up and turns off, then I decided to try again and again this inscription, I pressed the power button again when this label and it turns on as usual. In short, now this window pops up every time you turn it on! Maybe someone knows how to solve this problem? Thanks in advance!
I AM HYPED OUT OF MY MIND!!!
Haha what are you most hyped for? []-)
Ok
For this? Man, the vr community is desperate, lol
@@VirtualRealityOasis increased pixel density for crisp sniper vision!
@@TheLonelyViper Need to see those enemy feet through the scope ;)
I'm somewhat confused by the pricing here. For anyone who does not own anything from Vive ecosystem and thus has to buy the whole package, the price is 1300 just as well. From that point of view, I'm much more disappointed with the price of Vive pro, than the other headset.
Still, I really really do not understand the insistence on external tracking. Inside out tracking is so much more convenient and I never had any issues with it. If anything I did have severe issues with IR tracking (trackIR) on a bright sunny day, despite being indoors. Is there a meaningful comparison of inside out tracking v. base stations?
What does "business use only" mean? Can't I just buy it myself and play SteamVR games or standalone games?
If the audio on the consumer HTC was upgraded, the +$200 from the Index (for just the headset) might be a reasonable price. I'll wait to see how the Decagear looks.
Decagear is not a real product. They are a company from China infamous for scams and fraud.