I feel like I'm the only person in existence who got hyped over finding out the save block actually exists in the demo. I mean, just look at that star on the top spin. It's majestic.
I have to thank this prototype for finally revealing that basically everyone in the beanbean kingdom is actually just two fighter flies in a trenchcoat.
Bowletta's kinda creepy, yeah. But this version looks like Bowser fused with a rabid bulldog. I definitely know that seeing this design has made Bowletta's final version retroactively more appealing in MY eyes, if nothing else. @@asra-5180
Those 4 missing candles in Joke's End are only missing their graphics, using Firebrand where they are does activate them and allow you to progress. Joke's End is 100% completable without hacks, even though the block minigame and final dash section are VERY unforgiving.
21:07 Worth noting that at the very least, Lemmy's battle sprite is in the game, although the other Koopalings don't seem to be, it's different from the final as well in that he's riding on top of a ball
The others are in the game too, and all have the single placeholder sprite like a lot of unused enemies in this build do. Lemmy's is just the only one that's different from the final.
It's interesting that they cobbled together the final Fawful pre-battle cutscene mech and that "Bowletta"'s defeat (squishing a couple of Fighter Flys) actually triggers a rudimentary version of her death cutscene.
There were many things that I think were cooler than in the end like instead of the Yoshi theater, having to save a Yoshi from starving or Mario and Luigi only starting to freak out after Popple told them so but I am so glad that they changed the Bowletta sprite because the beta one looks like Bowsers corpse was already starting to rot when fawful found it.
11:43 The candles sprites might not be present but the event still works as intended if you know where the candle triggers are and use the Firebrand in the correct position
16:23 What's odd is, the layering on the Mario and Luigi hug sprites is done correctly here, whereas in the final game, Mario just goes over Luigi for some reason. It always weirded me out, and it's made even weirder by the fact they had it right in pre-release versions. If anyone has any insight, by all means, I'd be interested to know.
Since the layering on several other things is broken, they presumably re-layered all the spritepriorities and accidentially screwed this one up. Well, nothing a fanpatch cannot fix now that we know it is supposed to look diffrent.
19:04 I don't know if the chuckle fruit sequence is present in this demo version, but these plants that got replaced by the piranha saplings are actually used in the final version as the plants the specially-colored chuckle fruits grow on
i kinda love the old bowletta sprite. something about it is very unnerving. i also love seeing how the game deteriorates near the end of it, it's super neat
Honestly, I think that the game is near universally better in the finished product with one exception: I think that having to choose between the type of counterattack is much better and should have been implemented as part of a "hard mode" or similar.
i guess in this episode everyone doesnt know what to feel at all in the right times and some of the koopalings learned identity fraud what a holly jolly thanksgiving
Interesting. Bowletta's original design is just a possessed Bowser. His body wasn't altered like in the retail version. I wonder if they though that children would be freaked out by seeing a demonic bowser.
The Candles are actually just invisible. You can hit them with Fire if you stand at the correct spots. Fawfulthegreat showed it. Here's hope TH-cam doesn't say this comment is inappropriate >.>
I saw a gameplay of the last part of the demo but it wasn't working properly since the dude missed the hammers and hands. Glad to have this finished final part.
@@asra-5180 The cutscenes could still be hidden in the code, even if the café room doesn't work. This very video starts with cutscenes that were previously considered missing.
@@poudink5791 Has it been confirmed the cutscenes literally don't exist in the code, or just that you can't trigger them normally because of the unimplemented shop menu?
2:54 The Clown car sprite DOES get used in the final. The cutscene which Mario and Luigi tricks Bowletta into releasing peach while kidnapping a disguised Luigi in Jokes End.
I can assure you. If you compare and freeze frame at the Jokes End cutscene where Peach(Luigi) it being carried by the Koopa Clown's mouth, it's the exact same sprite(Minus peach's beta eyes) used in the beta Bowletta reveal cutscene.
Well, I checked, and you're correct that it does have those teeth, it's still seems to not be the same sprite as used in the Joke's End scene... cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/868583504391307304/1169572331673362442/image.png
That Cackletta sprite is used in an overworld cutscene. I checked all the enemy IDs for the previous video in the playlist and the Cackletta fight is not present.
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I feel like I'm the only person in existence who got hyped over finding out the save block actually exists in the demo. I mean, just look at that star on the top spin. It's majestic.
I have to thank this prototype for finally revealing that basically everyone in the beanbean kingdom is actually just two fighter flies in a trenchcoat.
jesus that Bowletta sprite is horrifying, imagine if they used that and how many would creep kids out
I mean, only one version of that sprite remains, and that's the final version of Bowletta's pointing & shouting sprite.
@@GlitchanBlackNah, even that is different, though it is a lot closer. Just the hair, shell, and mouth seem to have been changed.
Ah yes. Bowletta isn't creepy in the final. I know a few people that wanna have a talk with you.
Bowletta's kinda creepy, yeah. But this version looks like Bowser fused with a rabid bulldog. I definitely know that seeing this design has made Bowletta's final version retroactively more appealing in MY eyes, if nothing else. @@asra-5180
i think its funny and fits the game more
I kinda like this Bowletta. She actually looks like Cackletta possessing Bowser instead of a fusion
That Bowletta sprite is, uh… certainly something
Those 4 missing candles in Joke's End are only missing their graphics, using Firebrand where they are does activate them and allow you to progress. Joke's End is 100% completable without hacks, even though the block minigame and final dash section are VERY unforgiving.
Huh.
23:05 Fawful's budget didn't go well after all that damage of the Koopa Cruiser he had to repair earlier.
I was half expecting Bowser's Castle to just not exist. But it's really interesting to see how early it was.
21:07 Worth noting that at the very least, Lemmy's battle sprite is in the game, although the other Koopalings don't seem to be, it's different from the final as well in that he's riding on top of a ball
The others are in the game too, and all have the single placeholder sprite like a lot of unused enemies in this build do. Lemmy's is just the only one that's different from the final.
its a shame theres no bowletta battle sprite
It's interesting that they cobbled together the final Fawful pre-battle cutscene mech and that "Bowletta"'s defeat (squishing a couple of Fighter Flys) actually triggers a rudimentary version of her death cutscene.
There were many things that I think were cooler than in the end like instead of the Yoshi theater, having to save a Yoshi from starving or Mario and Luigi only starting to freak out after Popple told them so but I am so glad that they changed the Bowletta sprite because the beta one looks like Bowsers corpse was already starting to rot when fawful found it.
Bowser looks terrifying
11:43
The candles sprites might not be present but the event still works as intended if you know where the candle triggers are and use the Firebrand in the correct position
22:49 that block is not for debug, its the placeholder for the bob-omb that would replace it
Ohh.
Ah yes, the realm of development itself! It’s quite intriguing how the development evolved overtime!
16:23 What's odd is, the layering on the Mario and Luigi hug sprites is done correctly here, whereas in the final game, Mario just goes over Luigi for some reason. It always weirded me out, and it's made even weirder by the fact they had it right in pre-release versions. If anyone has any insight, by all means, I'd be interested to know.
Since the layering on several other things is broken, they presumably re-layered all the spritepriorities and accidentially screwed this one up. Well, nothing a fanpatch cannot fix now that we know it is supposed to look diffrent.
19:04 I don't know if the chuckle fruit sequence is present in this demo version, but these plants that got replaced by the piranha saplings are actually used in the final version as the plants the specially-colored chuckle fruits grow on
I wonder how would beta Bowletta fight sprites look like.
i kinda love the old bowletta sprite. something about it is very unnerving. i also love seeing how the game deteriorates near the end of it, it's super neat
Really surprised the nature of this proto been more safetly broken than other unfinished bosses.
They actually had Bowletta be even more ugly to look at. Sheesh.
24:03 No, Peasley is just this much of a badass, but alas his hubris and narcissism let Fawful run away.
Those Bowletta sprites look like they belong in Doom more than in a Mario game. Geez!
1:20 Mario's a firebender now!
Technically both bros are firebenders as thunder Is a derivate of fire
Honestly, I think that the game is near universally better in the finished product with one exception: I think that having to choose between the type of counterattack is much better and should have been implemented as part of a "hard mode" or similar.
i guess in this episode everyone doesnt know what to feel at all in the right times and some of the koopalings learned identity fraud
what a holly jolly thanksgiving
Superstar saga if it was a B movie with bad acting
THAT LAUGHING MARIO SPRITE THo
Interesting. Bowletta's original design is just a possessed Bowser. His body wasn't altered like in the retail version. I wonder if they though that children would be freaked out by seeing a demonic bowser.
The Candles are actually just invisible. You can hit them with Fire if you stand at the correct spots. Fawfulthegreat showed it. Here's hope TH-cam doesn't say this comment is inappropriate >.>
4:00 correction, if Luigi jumps on it, it turns him into a literal Green Mario. His sprite literally turns into Mario's.
I saw a gameplay of the last part of the demo but it wasn't working properly since the dude missed the hammers and hands. Glad to have this finished final part.
Proto-Bowletta sure is... something...
You know what I'm curious to see if it's in this build? The cutscenes with Fox, Link, Wario and the others!
Watch part 1. The café doesn't work in this build.
@@asra-5180 The cutscenes could still be hidden in the code, even if the café room doesn't work. This very video starts with cutscenes that were previously considered missing.
It seems this question has somehow been asked under every part so far despite being answered in part 2. They're not there.
@@poudink5791 Has it been confirmed the cutscenes literally don't exist in the code, or just that you can't trigger them normally because of the unimplemented shop menu?
@@fawfulthegreat64 Nobody was able to trigger them yet. Think you could?
idk why but I want to see a fangame with Bowletta's old design and "deceased Mario"
2:34 Gotta say, the demo version of Luigi meeting Bowletta is *_MUCH_* better than the final. Really instills the fear.
except does it look like anything that has Cackletta related though
@@Lightpaladin720 No, and thank god for that. I did not like the Bowser with boobs design the final game had.
@@GlitchanBlack that's why they changed it because it has nothing Cackletta related it just looks like Bowser on an off day
Is Ludwig's shell so small in the final version because it was based on the relatively smaller Spiny placeholder?
Glad they change bowletta,that thing is nightmare fuel
The koopa klown with teeth makes me unusually irate
good stuff!
i hope the partners in time e3 build or some early bowser's inside story (i'm talking like 2008 early) build gets leaked.
17:50 Bowser's Castle looks very different than in the finished game.
Question. Did something happen that made it impossible to look at the debug maps? Or were they just absolutely empty?
They're just not very interesting, yeah.
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2:54 The Clown car sprite DOES get used in the final. The cutscene which Mario and Luigi tricks Bowletta into releasing peach while kidnapping a disguised Luigi in Jokes End.
No, the one in the final game does not have rodent teeth.
I can assure you. If you compare and freeze frame at the Jokes End cutscene where Peach(Luigi) it being carried by the Koopa Clown's mouth, it's the exact same sprite(Minus peach's beta eyes) used in the beta Bowletta reveal cutscene.
Well, I checked, and you're correct that it does have those teeth, it's still seems to not be the same sprite as used in the Joke's End scene...
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Oh! They must of cut some parts off the teeth.
It was grinding it's teeth too much before release.
Is this the longest you’ve done a series in TCRF?
Not even close. See: Yoshi's New Island, New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe, perhaps Deltarune Chapter 2 if that counts.
@@Meatball132 Ah
I think that cackletta Sprite in the cutscene after the bowletta """fight""" means that the bosses are still there
That Cackletta sprite is used in an overworld cutscene. I checked all the enemy IDs for the previous video in the playlist and the Cackletta fight is not present.
@@Skawooh
22:30 I was always more of a Burger King fan
Nice.
I'm not one to reply "First", but why not. FIRST. (This is a joke by the way)
Bowletta here has the mouth of a Moblin from Wind Waker lol
How did you managed to explore more of the game in the prototype?
Hacking.
@@supercoolsonic1 GameShark codes included?
@@smartass643 not cheat codes. Literal editing of the hex.
@@asra-5180 I mean, GameShark codes would've worked all the same too, though. That's basically just another method by which to edit the "hex".
What room ID is the Star Stache Minigame?
It's not a room - the minigames are somehow separate from rooms. You can get to it from the Debug Room with id 02 by talking to one of the Toads.
Dios hay bowser si da miedo, parece realmente que lo poseyeron
Tickle
Nintendo should not of made the possessed bowser changes
Como e o final
Please take a look at starbeans cafe.
I did in Part 2.
Oh