When doddy says "you wanna get into a bike company " more like dave needs to start his own . maybe get in touch with allen millyard and get a gearbox integrated into the bike .awesome tech .well done to dave I'm building my own adjustable suspension bike and this has given me inspiration
@@brandonb6164 yhea I didn't think that was the actual reason for it just what I think it looks like happened. If it was a patch up that would have been dangerous as well as ugly. Just really not a fan of that design. The build now the build quality looks amazing. My comment came early in the video. The front half of the bike is cool. It's the seat tube and the back end I'm not a fan of. However when he explained that it hadn't actually cost him all that much the whole bike starts making a lot more sense. Not paying for the machining at all nor the carbon he's used and doing the work himself it's probably been fairly cheap so far so why the hell not.
I've actually got an Enduro design of my own in the works. 180f/160r, 27.5, 64° hta, short chainstays, average reach, just something I'm designing around what I'd like to see in a bike to start. I can always change these figures later for the market, once I get the suspension design proven. This guy gives me hope and inspiration to finish my CAD model.
What you using to test how the suspension works? I take it you can't build to test so do you have some software to simulate the various things you need to test.
@@itarry4 I have been designing a bike in the last couple of months and I have been using GIM because it is free but a royal pain in the ass, once I am sure I will actually build it i'll just go out and pay for linkage x3
@@itarry4 I'm using LinkageX3. Jorris, it is worth the money, I promise. My particular design is a royal pain to get right, and I've been fiddling with it for the better part of two years. I feel like I'm almost ready to finally get a prototype made and tested, to prove the design. There's just a few things I need to sort out. I can have anti-squat at around 100% at sag with low pedal kickback (between 3-7°) if I use a static gearbox with a 6:1 ratio, allowing smaller gears and a wider range of equipment, but sourcing the constant mesh gears in the proper size will prove to be an issue unless I have them custom made, increasing the production cost (I do want to sell this bike at some point). With this gearbox, I can also tune the anti-rise to be right around 100% or lower at sag, minimizing the effect braking has on the suspension with this particular linkage driven single pivot. It will also allow the bike to have an effective seat tube angle of 80° or steeper, increasing pedaling efficiency. My aim is for this bike to be worthy of a podium spot in the Enduro world series. If it places on the podium, especially if I can price it within an affordable range, it will sell very well. Sizing shouldn't be much of an issue. Unfortunately, the leverage ratio will be a touch higher than most people would look for. This poses a few problems for the longevity of the system. I'm also trying to use links that are as small as possible to minimize lateral flex that may reach the shock, increasing longevity. Hopefully, if I can get all the parameters within tolerable specs, this bike would be able to race with, or ahead of, the competition.
Dave has been lucky enough to be in a position that every tall rider has wished they'd been in. If he ends up being picked up by a bike company he should focus on XXL bikes for those over 183cm (6') as there is a void in the market that needs to be filled.
Incredible build and love the finish to the carbon. Now if Doddy was drooling over this prototype bike there definetly be some bike manufacturers thinking we need to speak to David surley . Great video #GMBNTech
Great job on the prototype bike build Definitely worthy on a job interview with one of the big brands. Carry on with what you do best and you will get the opportunity to show them how it's done
This is a remarkable achievement and is fully deserving off recognition by a myriad of industry leaders if this is the level of production achieved in essentially spare time just imagine the innovation this guy could bring to the table .. this guy may have a new career imminently.... Bravo sir.
@@itarry4 damn bro. Where's yours? Re the design. High pivot idler bikes are here and more are coming. Commencial supreme, New trek dh bikes, norco shore, actofive, forbidden, deviate, and the evan turpen bike More are coming....
@@EnglertRacing96 i like high pivot it's nothing to do with that although his looked a bit strange and he admitted himself wasn't quite right. It's tte actual shape of the down tube I had a issue with. It's got a funny bulge at the top and was really thin at the bottom. To be fair to him my comment happened at the start after seeing the bike side on and I couldn't see how well done the carbon lay up was and how nice the front part of the bike was. It's the down tube and rear triangle chain stay that I didn't like. Especially after he talked about the little cost he'd so far had I now don't blame him at all and can understand why he did it. Just at first it seemed a bit unnecessary as such long bikes now exist.
@@EnglertRacing96 yhea that'd definitely help him. I'd also redesign the whole rear end to be honest from the suspension and the down tube and revert to a more traditional maybe Alloy rear triangle....
This is so sick! I like that it's a mix of forged carbon and partly skinned and different weaves, and you can see the seams, but it just looks so good. I just started working with carbon fiber in the hopes of making my own frame. It's a damn cool material!
I'm dreaming of a high pivot point bike like the Forbidden Dreadnought, but I hope they'll get a bit more affordable and available in the next years. Hoping the best for David.
That it some piece of kit! Love the rear swing-arm. Made a red cedar kayak at 6 meters long and thought on making a bike in the same method. Watching your effort has inspired the will to commit. Toyed a few years back with the idea of making a wood/e-glass/carbon hybrid as do large miles occasionally hitting 80 to 98 in a day when fit. This is way beyond my comfort level and to make the idea even more stupid the rear cassette has to be above the bb with 2 rear 160 mm disks mated to enclosed straight pull chains in oil, and the frame will be a trellis stylie able to take 6 litres of fluid, tools, puncture kit and a decathlon short track pump (sick of topeak failing and taking 4 hrs to inflate in the wet) Hope i can get within a million miles of your achievement, a massive challenge and simply stunning. Look forwards to the second frame set.
I bet that frame is super quiet too.. if im assuming correctly that the foam inner cores are left in the frame. That is effin COOL... im 6ft5... I need to get ahold of this guy. I want one of these bikes
His boss must be a gem, home work is a big no no where I work. It’s clever though, if I was looking to have some prototypes made I would be trying to find their number.
As someone who currently works on hand-built carbon fibre racing ocean rowboats, it's pretty interesting to see! Kind of a waste to make the mould out of carbon fibre, Glass fibre works just as well and is a fair bit cheaper. It's nice to see his frame is foam core though, it significantly improves durability, and our racing rowboats also use a Carbon-foam-carbon sandwich layup.
hardly a waste of carbon fabric when the material is out of life anyway and no longer deemed suitable for aerospace applications and thus customer and regulatory authority requirements.
@@hananas2 Because any shop that works with automotive/f1 pre pregs which this is, do not carry a tooling resin system that is glass. Just makes sense to use carbon. Confused by your logic, and assume you haven’t worked in that environment before.
That bike is really really nice and I wish the guy all the best with his future projects🙏🏿, as I now want to see what else he will come up with 🤞🏿. Also I was waiting for Doddy to have a go on it!... What happened 🤷🏿♂️
Incredible quality and concept he needs to get snapped up by Pace or maybe Bird bikes. As an average height person at 6'' 2 it would be brilliant to have some elbow room at last .
No, it wouldn't. Even with the variable tooth count that an oval chainring simulates, it would not alleviate the chain wrap problem. He needs that rear idler higher up and a few more links to accommodate.
Lets be honest guys... this is the pinnacle of being bike crazy... building an own frame would already be a thing to tick off the bucket list... but a carbon frame? My respect.
I was going to suggest moving the idler back above the crank but seems he’s already on the same line of thought and not only would you get more contact on the crank, you’d also eliminate a lot of the slack in the chain. Sick bike though
as for a name... may i suggest Banshee? or perhaps Valkyrie? Just suggestions off the top of my head. and feel free to use em. almost guaranteed they've already been suggested. Awesome rig.
This is just insane. What a skilled guy. I can’t imagine how huge of a challenge this was.
Wouldn’t of thought I would see you here
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When doddy says "you wanna get into a bike company " more like dave needs to start his own .
maybe get in touch with allen millyard and get a gearbox integrated into the bike .awesome tech .well done to dave
I'm building my own adjustable suspension bike and this has given me inspiration
Was just going to say that !!
I built the world's lightest MTB and it got published in two magazines as well as MBR and BikeRumour featuring it . I never took it further though .
@@lightweightbikes2022 Why not?
It was probably crazy expensive to produce.
I'd love to see what Millyard could do if a big bike company were to go to him and give him the budget and the tools to make the bike he wants.
Fund him and put them on the market I think he deserves it
Probably the best bodge we've had on this channel
Definitely the most expensive. What's he doing with that seat tube. It looks really strange. Like it broke and he's patched it up.
Quick to say bodge. When’s the last time you built a full suspension bike? Not to be rude. I believe he deserves credit for this.
@@roddywhite3601 I meant that he couldn't find his ideal bike so he buipt his own
@@itarry4 it matches the tooling board exactly... that wouldn’t be the case with a repair.
@@brandonb6164 yhea I didn't think that was the actual reason for it just what I think it looks like happened. If it was a patch up that would have been dangerous as well as ugly. Just really not a fan of that design.
The build now the build quality looks amazing. My comment came early in the video. The front half of the bike is cool. It's the seat tube and the back end I'm not a fan of.
However when he explained that it hadn't actually cost him all that much the whole bike starts making a lot more sense. Not paying for the machining at all nor the carbon he's used and doing the work himself it's probably been fairly cheap so far so why the hell not.
What! This guy is even taller than doddy!
He could be Doddy’s Daddy
We from now on call doddy 'Diddy '😃😀
@@nickmassey9104 lmao
Doody is actually quite short
@@Jacob99174 jesus crist dude xD
Was hoping you would give the bike a little ride to tell us how it feels!
I imagine it’s something down to it being a prototype (for safety/legal reasons)
Was gutted he didn’t
I've actually got an Enduro design of my own in the works. 180f/160r, 27.5, 64° hta, short chainstays, average reach, just something I'm designing around what I'd like to see in a bike to start. I can always change these figures later for the market, once I get the suspension design proven.
This guy gives me hope and inspiration to finish my CAD model.
Do it!
What you using to test how the suspension works? I take it you can't build to test so do you have some software to simulate the various things you need to test.
@@itarry4 I have been designing a bike in the last couple of months and I have been using GIM because it is free but a royal pain in the ass, once I am sure I will actually build it i'll just go out and pay for linkage x3
@@itarry4 I'm using LinkageX3. Jorris, it is worth the money, I promise. My particular design is a royal pain to get right, and I've been fiddling with it for the better part of two years. I feel like I'm almost ready to finally get a prototype made and tested, to prove the design. There's just a few things I need to sort out. I can have anti-squat at around 100% at sag with low pedal kickback (between 3-7°) if I use a static gearbox with a 6:1 ratio, allowing smaller gears and a wider range of equipment, but sourcing the constant mesh gears in the proper size will prove to be an issue unless I have them custom made, increasing the production cost (I do want to sell this bike at some point). With this gearbox, I can also tune the anti-rise to be right around 100% or lower at sag, minimizing the effect braking has on the suspension with this particular linkage driven single pivot. It will also allow the bike to have an effective seat tube angle of 80° or steeper, increasing pedaling efficiency. My aim is for this bike to be worthy of a podium spot in the Enduro world series. If it places on the podium, especially if I can price it within an affordable range, it will sell very well. Sizing shouldn't be much of an issue.
Unfortunately, the leverage ratio will be a touch higher than most people would look for. This poses a few problems for the longevity of the system. I'm also trying to use links that are as small as possible to minimize lateral flex that may reach the shock, increasing longevity. Hopefully, if I can get all the parameters within tolerable specs, this bike would be able to race with, or ahead of, the competition.
@@TheDustyShredder if you complete your project I would like to test it, your project seems really cool to me 🔥
Doddy geeking out so hard! Love it, very contagious.
Amazing to see you genuinely gobsmacked about that bike. Considering you've seen it all , over the decades .
This design needs to be trademarked. Got a unique look to it
Dave has been lucky enough to be in a position that every tall rider has wished they'd been in. If he ends up being picked up by a bike company he should focus on XXL bikes for those over 183cm (6') as there is a void in the market that needs to be filled.
A very small void. Statistically, there aren't that many people that are that tall and ride mountain bikes and want to drop a butt load of money.
Incredible build and love the finish to the carbon.
Now if Doddy was drooling over this prototype bike there definetly be some bike manufacturers thinking we need to speak to David surley .
Great video #GMBNTech
Doddy needs to visit that factory... Bring us the inside scoop...
Wow I’ve never seen Doddy lost for words . I think we need more people like this man to come forward, its so dam awesome cheers boys !!!
Seriously Impressive Stuff. Well done to David.🤘👏
I really hope he takes this all the way, it's good to see British engineering isn't dead.
Got a name for it too..... Brand: Proto - Bike Name: Type 1
This looks like a winner once he gets the chain wrap corrected! A real labor of love!
Blake needs to put on some arm and leg extensions and give it a proper test ride. That finish is amazing.
If you manufactured this bike .Some would pay any amount for that quality .Amazing
Great job on the prototype bike build
Definitely worthy on a job interview with one of the big brands. Carry on with what you do best and you will get the opportunity to show them how it's done
This is so incredibly cool! I’d have so many questions to ask Dave
Beautiful, absolutely 🤩
Greater than I expected small, compacted, easy to use
Yes Dave 👏
That's one seriously cool looking bike, I hope you can get a production model dialed in and produced en masse. Good luck buddy, ride hard, ride fast.
This is a remarkable achievement and is fully deserving off recognition by a myriad of industry leaders if this is the level of production achieved in essentially spare time just imagine the innovation this guy could bring to the table ..
this guy may have a new career imminently....
Bravo sir.
I'm gonna be amazed if a bike company isn't trying to reach out to him after this video lol XD His work is amazing :O
He used available software to design a fairly ugly bike. He's good at the build part but I'm not sold on the design side at all.
@@itarry4 damn bro.
Where's yours?
Re the design.
High pivot idler bikes are here and more are coming.
Commencial supreme, New trek dh bikes, norco shore, actofive, forbidden, deviate, and the evan turpen bike
More are coming....
@@EnglertRacing96 i like high pivot it's nothing to do with that although his looked a bit strange and he admitted himself wasn't quite right. It's tte actual shape of the down tube I had a issue with. It's got a funny bulge at the top and was really thin at the bottom. To be fair to him my comment happened at the start after seeing the bike side on and I couldn't see how well done the carbon lay up was and how nice the front part of the bike was. It's the down tube and rear triangle chain stay that I didn't like.
Especially after he talked about the little cost he'd so far had I now don't blame him at all and can understand why he did it. Just at first it seemed a bit unnecessary as such long bikes now exist.
@@itarry4 I think he should move the lower guide idler half way up the chainring to alleviate some of his wrap issue.
@@EnglertRacing96 yhea that'd definitely help him. I'd also redesign the whole rear end to be honest from the suspension and the down tube and revert to a more traditional maybe Alloy rear triangle....
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This bike is the sickest thing of the week on #GMBNTECH
This is so sick! I like that it's a mix of forged carbon and partly skinned and different weaves, and you can see the seams, but it just looks so good. I just started working with carbon fiber in the hopes of making my own frame. It's a damn cool material!
Every rider dreams of creating their own bike and he has done it...hope we see more of it!
The cool name for this bike might be "Gulliver" ! 💪😎✌🚀
The concept so sick dudeee!!
Wow, so cool GMBN Tech
So awesome and skilled👌👍 Better than many famous bike brands😉❤
I'm dreaming of a high pivot point bike like the Forbidden Dreadnought, but I hope they'll get a bit more affordable and available in the next years. Hoping the best for David.
That it some piece of kit! Love the rear swing-arm.
Made a red cedar kayak at 6 meters long and thought on making a bike in the same method. Watching your effort has inspired the will to commit.
Toyed a few years back with the idea of making a wood/e-glass/carbon hybrid as do large miles occasionally hitting 80 to 98 in a day when fit. This is way beyond my comfort level and to make the idea even more stupid the rear cassette has to be above the bb with 2 rear 160 mm disks mated to enclosed straight pull chains in oil, and the frame will be a trellis stylie able to take 6 litres of fluid, tools, puncture kit and a decathlon short track pump (sick of topeak failing and taking 4 hrs to inflate in the wet)
Hope i can get within a million miles of your achievement, a massive challenge and simply stunning. Look forwards to the second frame set.
Some serious talent going on there ! Can't wait to see the finished article !! 👍👌
What an absolute legend. The bike looks amazing. Even as a prototype, it's unreal.
This might be one of the coolest mtb tech videos ever
This is seriously impressive! Great content Doddy! more like this! Brrraaap!
Nice bike. Honestly I would buy his bike. Just knowing someone hand built it is amazing. Keep up the great work.
Ok GMBN, Pinkbike have done it and I'm certain Doddy wants to, so when will we see the series on the GMBN custom bike!?
Carbon Grim donut!
Work must work for you, what a boy.
Really cool. This guy has dedication.
This is insane, and so inspiring. Well done David!
Big Man Bikes - I think is the ideal name!!!
I bet that frame is super quiet too.. if im assuming correctly that the foam inner cores are left in the frame. That is effin COOL... im 6ft5... I need to get ahold of this guy. I want one of these bikes
Absolutely stunning.
That is a beautiful bike. Well done guy
Dave..." yeah, I really want to get into the bike industry"
Dave's boss, who allowed him to build his project ......"Your Fired!"
I really enjoyed the no bollocks intro. Getting straight into it :)
great effort
Dude looks like a Giant compared to Doddy😮
That is super cool. Big Ups!
Cracking video with a talented guy. How many times is ‘so’ used in this video - must be a new record.
That is absorbed mad! Love it! I would love it if he would make an Enduro hardtail like this🤩
About a year ago Easy Composites made a promotion video with exact same process, step by step
Thats amazing.
His boss must be a gem, home work is a big no no where I work. It’s clever though, if I was looking to have some prototypes made I would be trying to find their number.
Awesome looking bike and Dave has some real talent
As someone who currently works on hand-built carbon fibre racing ocean rowboats, it's pretty interesting to see!
Kind of a waste to make the mould out of carbon fibre, Glass fibre works just as well and is a fair bit cheaper.
It's nice to see his frame is foam core though, it significantly improves durability, and our racing rowboats also use a Carbon-foam-carbon sandwich layup.
hardly a waste of carbon fabric when the material is out of life anyway and no longer deemed suitable for aerospace applications and thus customer and regulatory authority requirements.
@@clarkie005 I guess? still tho
@@hananas2 Because any shop that works with automotive/f1 pre pregs which this is, do not carry a tooling resin system that is glass. Just makes sense to use carbon. Confused by your logic, and assume you haven’t worked in that environment before.
Awesome effort, totally needs a test ride review.
So GMBN may as well cancel their "Hacks & Bodges" section now then.
This guys wins everything. 🏆
That’s incredible!
Wow, well done 👍
That’s amazing what he has done.
Looks awesome! I'd buy one for sure!
Looks sooo much better than the new Pole
fantastic upload
thanks
That bike is really really nice and I wish the guy all the best with his future projects🙏🏿, as I now want to see what else he will come up with 🤞🏿.
Also I was waiting for Doddy to have a go on it!... What happened 🤷🏿♂️
In the process of building a carbon high pivot Enduro bike as well. Would love to get in touch! Where can we find David?
Incredible quality and concept he needs to get snapped up by Pace or maybe Bird bikes. As an average height person at 6'' 2 it would be brilliant to have some elbow room at last .
envy, pure envy
this thing is freakin awesome!
I hope he got some calls already. That's a nice bike.
That is just incredible!!!
Amazing work
That bike is insane!
Damn that bike is a monster and even though the rider is taller than Doddy...😮😮😮
Amazing bike 😎
What a great projekt and nice bike.
I wonder would an oval chain ring help with tooth ingagement instead of moving the ideler wheel back?
That makes no sense
No, it wouldn't. Even with the variable tooth count that an oval chainring simulates, it would not alleviate the chain wrap problem. He needs that rear idler higher up and a few more links to accommodate.
Lets be honest guys... this is the pinnacle of being bike crazy... building an own frame would already be a thing to tick off the bucket list... but a carbon frame? My respect.
Wow...what can you say ? That was amazing . Thank you Mr Dodd , vorsichtig !
I was going to suggest moving the idler back above the crank but seems he’s already on the same line of thought and not only would you get more contact on the crank, you’d also eliminate a lot of the slack in the chain. Sick bike though
That chain must be almost 2 full chains, what a sick bike congrats
He should be approaching his bosses to let him start up a bike section to the company....
That is a thing of beauty.
Very talented guy
as for a name... may i suggest Banshee? or perhaps Valkyrie? Just suggestions off the top of my head. and feel free to use em. almost guaranteed they've already been suggested. Awesome rig.
Designed in Fusion 360, Nice!
Super nice!
that linkage instantly made me look at my old school Dh rig, a 98 Sintesi Bazooka.
fantastic!!! it needs a name..the idler
sick bike
Looks so cool.
Nice 👍
Such a SWEEET bike :)
I thought Doddy was in league with the tallest men in the world. There’s always a bigger fish.