I have a friend whose name is "Theo", but only his parents can call his full name "Theodore" because to him, his full name is a symbol of family. Oddly enough, Theo has nicknames for all of his close friends. He barely calls his close friends by their names. This is very similar to Vi. Only her family, and now Caitlyn can call her Violet. Yet she has nicknames for almost everyone. Caitlyn is cupcake, Jayce is pretty boy, Ekko is little man, Jinx is pow-pow, and Ambessa is war pig (I love this one). For Caitlyn, it's completely opposite. Everyone calls her Caitlyn. Some close friends like Jayce (and Vi) sometimes call her Cait. But, nobody calls her by a nickname except Vi. I think it's because of her wealthy family background where nickname is considered as a rude manner. Yet, she likes it. She likes to be called cupcake by Vi because it's affectionate, like couples calling each other sweetheart or honey. That's why I think Caitlyn got "folded" just by Vi calling her cupcake. She really missed that kind of affection. So, in the ending scene, Caitlyn calls Vi as Violet because Caitlyn is now in Vi's family circle. Vi calls Caitlyn as cupcake because Vi is now Caitlyn's lover.
I agree with you specially when Cait folded! She was like addressed as "Commander" by everyone for a year. Then she meets Vi again and calls her "cupcake". It's like a wake up call that she is supposed to be Vi's Cupcake, not everyone's commander. I'd like to think of that moment like that.
Absolutely LOVE this synopsis! Thank you! You have officially added more mushy shit to my head-canon (which I'm just hoping in S3, whatever it may called, becomes TRUE canon"
I agree! Though Jayce does call Caitlyn “Sprout” when pulling her out of her sharpshooter daydream of Jinx. Doesn’t really fit anymore with Caitlyn already on her way to growing and embracing her shadow :)
I don't know that I've seen anyone mention this, but Vi's final look also includes one leather bracer on her right wrist, just like Vander started wearing after his attempt to kill Silco, the last time he used violence before giving up that life "I'm just not that man anymore"
I'd love for Vi, in a future story/series to not be a fighter with her hands but to try and build up a better relationship between Zaun and Piltover by giving a hand to everyone in need, basically.
Great Video! I also think that Cait calls her "Violet" now because she is calling her for who she really is and Caitlyn sees that. I also would like think it's a sweet gesture that she calls her like that now that they are officially together and live together. Like her own way of saying "my love"
VIOLET BECAME VI ALMOST THE SAME WAY THAT POWDER BECAME JINX,BOTH WERE INNOCENT SOULS ONCE,BUT THEN GREAT TRAGEDY HAPPEN TO THEM BOTH AND THEY CHOSE TO BECOME A DIFFERENT PERSON TO SURVIVE THE NEW ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY ARE FORCED IN
a nice detail that comes to mind is that Vi's hair color and Caitly's hair color, when mixed, formed violet. Vi's mother had violet hair and Caitlyn loves the color violet and the person she fell in love with is called Violet...everything makes sense
That scene was cool on many levels. I especially love that they made Vi look so buff since she's a brawler. You see it well in that shot. I don't know why but in fantasy shows, I rarely see fighter lady types like that. Most look like they could barely lift a heavy box. If someone is physically powerful, they should look it, imho!
I was crossing my fingers and hoping we’d get a scene like this, and it paid off. I had to pause and take a minute after hearing cait call her that, it really hit me. Especially within the context that it was in, the fact that they waited to pull that out until their final scene together. It felt so heartfelt, so earned after everything. Really great video and great analysis as always. There’s a lot to focus on within the season as a whole that people seem to skip over these simpler moments, especially with these two. A lot of the discussion I’ve seen has been very jinx/ekko/viktor heavy so I appreciate that you take the time to give caitlyn and vi some love, they deserve it
It's not only about that, even if you're completely right too ! But when you think that only Vander, Jinx/powder and Vi's mother called her Violet when they're all the closest people to Vi, I also think that Vi asking and allowing Cait to call her that means for Vi that she fully considers Cait as her new family now
I'm currently reading a very elaborate fanfic of the two, playing out a bit of an alternate universe for them... There is so much written out there that just fits with both their characters and that I felt the same way about. I gotta say they really did well with what little time they had in Arcane. There's so much to explore in Vi's character and so much unspoken/unshown but it all fits together.
I never really thought about them calling each other with different names. Yes 'cup cake' is a legend now but it is a nickname. Thank you for bringing up that because this is another way of showing great details about the show! Just this detail is enough to understand that creators did a masterpiece! The love between them is also telling us too many thing about love. It is like Caitlyn fell in love with Vi because she is kind of represent opposite of what her family represent. Vi fell in love with Caitlyn because she is so similar to her parents. It is fascinating!
As someone who goes by a short version of my full name i appreciate Caitlyn’s respect. Caitlyn’s smart she saw the name violet and vi said powder was her sister. This is the place vi chose to go when she thought she was dying. Caitlyn knows immediately what vi is short for but doesn’t even ask why she shortened it. She keeps using vi. She was rased in a world of full names and long titles. She could be rebelling but i don’t get that energy from her over names. She just accepts that is what she wants to be called. A small moment that says a lot about the respect caitlyn has for people. I feel like vi is one of the only characters that got a shorter end of the stick than Caitlyn character arc wise. Yes i am still salty.
Well, Vi's my favorite character by a mile on this show, so yeah, I can see she got shafted by having a lot less screen time and a character act so condensed, mainly reduced to montages and what looks at times a second-fiddle character. But anyways, still can relate so much to her more ager/rage-prone side that it hurts lmao.
@ the writers used montages as a major crutch and the show is worse for it. They had two to three seasons of plot and character crammed into one season that was still full of bloat. While vi isn’t my favorite character. I do find her really compelling and i relate to parts of her story. my big issue is agency. Yes it is a large cast to juggle. Even so she did not get her fair share of screen time. But the real writing problem that angers me is her lack of agency throughout season two. Act 1 there is a good case to be made that Vi lacking agency works for her character. Vi is wrestling with guilt and shame. She is in a house with a man who hates her for what her sister did and she is trying to be supportive to her partner who is going through it. She herself recently been through a lot. So pulling back and being passive makes sense as she tries to figure out how to move forward. However with her lack of agency in the rest of the season it gets frustrating. Act 2 and 3. Stuff happens to vi and she gets dragged around by other characters. In stead of learning who she is on her own (out of jail) and learning to fight for herself. Learning that she matters to people even if she isn’t protecting them. They go right back two it. Now she has two little sisters. Or a little sister and a niece to protect. With Vandar…. In his state she is back to being head of house. The parentified child doesn’t get to self actualize. I am still mad.
@@cattievogelsong96 Well, to me part of Vi not getting much weight in the story is part of her also having less screen time. The self-destructive path she takes after that discussion with Cait is just not even shown a bit, I guess you can understand where she ended up with tme montage and all that, but come on, at least a few dialogue lines with that dude Loris here and there, and some other stuff, even put in some of the lines that they included into the game. Then the same when Jinx appears to tell her that Vander reappeared but as a monstrosity, they could have put her in a more "head on" mode if you will. Finally the leadup to the jail scene, could have used some more dialogue, yes you can get that Jinx realizes she's in everyone's way and that, but crap, tell us a bit of how she came up to that idea, show us a bit of how Vi begrudgingly accepts that, then put a few more lines right after Cait arrives there. I mean, I liked this season still, and it hit me (left me with a lot of mixed feelings tho), but that short runtime and the decision to cram everything onto just one more season left me with that sour taste that there are some things missing...
Caitlyn determining whether or not she should tell Vi her Sister could still be alive,yet also realizing she would go after Jinx to find her, By Caitlyn saying "Are you still in this Fight,Violet" I took it as if she is still with Cait. I think Vi's answer, Understood she should not tell her Jinx could still be Alive, and that Vi won't leave Cait.
Honestly, I think they both know already that Jinx is alive but she left. It's been months since the war and they cleaned out the areas. Cait holding part of Jinx's bomb proves that the scene was already investigated. They both know there's no sign of Jinx's body and no idea where she went.
@@ReeseHei-ran perhaps that is the reason we do not see Vi burn a paper like everyone else who lost someone. As it turns out the Paper Ekko burned had Powder written on it,not Jinx and learning more about the deleted scenes involving Jinx and Ekko and how there was a romantic montage of the two of them building and getting closer in a mirror shot for shot montage that Ekko had with AU Powder it is possible Jinx may have told Ekko she has to leave after they are done fighting the Noxians still having some fear that anyone who gets close to her will die. Still feeling guilt about Isha's death. So perhaps all 3 know Jinx left and Vi is Ok with that,but I do not know. there is a chance I could see Vi go after Jinx since She would never give up on her sister, as Jinx asked Vi in prison as if it was not a good thing and that it was part of the cycle that leads to Violence. Or Vi truly listened to Jinx and she should not feel guilty about being happy with Caitlyn and will not seek out Jinx. I think Jinx was heading to BilgeWater because in the Arcane Artbook which is covered in Jinx's thoughts all over it like it was her scrapbook, she had drawn a Heart over the place on the Map in the book and wrote Snobs over Demacia. So that told me, she would not go to an area where she would run into more snobs, but Bilgewater she has history with,where she got her original pants.
@@ArcaneMelodies82 Agreed. I think Vi finally made peace with Jinx's decision to leave. Jinx did tell her, "always with you sis.." but that being said she still is sad to see jinx go even though she understands and respects her decision hence we have Caitlyn asking her if she is still in this fight.. afterall, she was in it for her family (powder/jinx and Vander) now that both is gone. To which Vi responded basically saying, "I'm the dirt under your nails Cupcake..". which to me means she is now all in with Cait. This is what I think happened.
@@ArcaneMelodies82 Also after everything they have been through, I don't think Cait has it in her to keep any secrets from Vi anymore. Given she also showed full trust on Vi on the decision what to do with Jinx before, I think they are now in the stage of their relationship where they fully trust each other's decisions.
@@ReeseHei-ran what still bothers me is the tone in which Cait asks Vi if "she's still in this fight". I can come to many interpretations of that, as well as the answer, but the tone in which she asks is like idk, kinda sad. As a whole that final scene hits super hard, I can get out of it that these two just rely a lot on each other...
Great analysis! You really have an eye for details. It is so nice to understand more and more of the symbolism. I still think about the series and the Cait/Vi relationship everyday. It made such an impact on me ❤😊
I think Katie Leung (the VA for Caitlyn) herself said that Caitlyn would call her Violet. But I’d like to think knowing Vi’s pet name for Cait is “cupcake”, Cait’s suitably (British) posh pet name would be simply (and perfectly sweetly), “Darling” Edit: autocorrect
That's a common thing in the fandom. In almost every fanfic Caitlyn calls Vi darling, but never once does she say it in the show. It's a Mel thing. Lol, but I would have loved for her to say it just once!
I just want to see them happy together... I'm heart broken over the shit they dragged her through... Give me movie with these 2 in it. It's all I need.
Whatttt what what! Wow loved the video and the explanations. I didn’t even noticed nor thought about this and im obssed with them ! Wow you are brillant !
Cait is well educated and cultured and I could easily see her preferring to use "Violet" because she thinks it's more a beautiful name than "Vi" which everyone knows her by. And as you pointed out, it's the reverse for Vi because she is from the streets and shortening your name is a sign of familiarity and acceptance. (In Vi's case, love.) I don't think there is an deeper reason than that. But good video.
I'm curious to hear your reading on why Vi calls Caitlyn "Cupcake" in this scene. Because I made a point of going back over every instance of that nickname being used, and it's never actually flirtatious. The first time in the brothel, Vi is deliberately trying to make Caitlyn uncomfortable and then ditches her. After being saved from Sevika, it's more like grudging respect. The next couple times we hear "Cupcake," Vi is saying goodbye: on the bridge, then again after the Council meeting. But for most of S2, specifically in Act 1 and Act 3, Vi uses the diminuitive "Cait," because they are being fully honest and vulnerable with each other. There is one particularly telling instance of "Cupcake" in Act 2, when they unexpectedly reunite outside the commune. They've broken up by then, and Vi is keeping Caitlyn at arm's length, just like she did in Season 1 Act 2. To me, this looks like a pattern: Vi maintaining emotional distance to protect herself. So after the very cathartic "Cait, I don't fucking care" in the prison cell scene, why does Vi go back to using "Cupcake" in her final line of the series? 🤔
Imho Vi uses cupcake in context of humor, sarcasm, or to put a certain "distance". I believe in the last scene, her answer also contains some level of sarcasm and double meaning, along with some serious self-deprecation, that she might not take that seriously. It's a bit of a joke, a bit of honesty, and a bit of recognizing she's not doing that well to say the least.
If we take into account the "dirt under the nails" part as well, I can think that she's basically saying (only as an interpretation of mine tho) something like "I'll be by tour side no matter what the world thows at us", but implicitly saying "I don't want to talk that much right now, need to wash away my grief a bit", as normally when she calls Cait like that she tries to hide something or to say something indirectly for whatever reason. At least that's my take, but there can be a whole lot of possibilities...
@@AlbnS It's like indicating her grief is super hard, and she's not that willing to talk very much, that it will take her quite a bit of time to overcome it...
It’s a form of intimacy, I personally like that. It’s the reverse situation with Caitlyn; only intimate people call her Cait (Jayce and Vi). It’s cute.
Thank you for your contribution to the series, I see that some channels believe that the most characteristic couple of Arcane are Ekko and Jinx but if we compare it, and I don't like to compare, Vi and Caytlin without the central characteristic of couples and people like many We have felt each other on more than one occasion. Now that I remember only Jayce called Caytlin "Kate"
Couldn't agree more Ola🥰 Funny how that relates to a Violet Flower meaning New beginnings, loyalty and love, amongst other things of course🙂 Much Love Ola stay safe!
No, cuz it's not Cait and Vi. There is no show. Only Cait and Vi. Do not pretend that anything happened other than Cait and Vi. There will be no content on anything that is not Cait and Vi, because that would imply that anything else happened or mattered. Nothing happened. It was 18 episodes of Cait and Vi.
The theme of names and identity is obvious with Jinx/Powder, it's interesting that Vi/Violet may have already gone through such a change herself after the prologue scene, though a much more subtle version.
i had already relized that pwder and vi made purple like their moms hair but i just relized that kats and vi hair (blue and red) also makes violet(purple)
Am I here to listen to your analysis of something related to Caitlyn and Vi relationship first thing in the morning before work - hell right I am. Thank you for making my day! Keep those videos coming, looking forward to those!
At this point I am convinced that absolutely nothing in Arcane is coincidential, every minute detail has symbolism and lots of thought put in both by the showrunners and Fortiche.
I think that violet is also a sign of ownership, she is literally already his wife Or at least their relationship is already at a very high point of commitment. and caitlyn is not very tender or expressive with her words She'd rather let criminals escape from prison, betray a Noxian dictator, or accept the most unconventional family than say anything sweet.or at least that's how I saw it
To me Vi does not look healthy, but instead "half dead" from her still grieving at the end of the show. (She reminds me of (Disney's) Hercules after he found about Meg was working for Hades.) But okay...I guess you can also call that peaceful. I did not notice that she put on some weight, but if she did that could also be from her being depressed after losing everyone in her family for good.
She's not completely healthy, and she never fully will be, but she is a far cry from where she was before. She is still grieving, but that's the point: she's grieving. She hasn't even been able to do that. She hasn't had a safe place to grieve over the death of her parents, over Vander, over Claggor and Mylo, over her sister. But she can now. She feels safe enough to grieve instead of bottling it up and ignoring it.
Thank you for your hardwork and always love your video analysis. I don't have any added extra commentary and I love everybody else's thoughts. I think I've said it before but "Cupcake" is my favorite character from the series.
I was a little sad to see that in the French version she justs says Vi. Using Violet denotes a very close connection between the characters. I think only Powder called her sister Violet in the show ?
Why in half of the scenes Cait and Vi are together, either of them is hurt? They should work on blocking better. Vi stabbing weapons and Cait... explosions. That said, I suppose I agree with it. After all that happened Violet should start rebuilding her life (with Cait's help too) letting go of her hostility for topside and all and be free. Again.
I have a friend whose name is "Theo", but only his parents can call his full name "Theodore" because to him, his full name is a symbol of family. Oddly enough, Theo has nicknames for all of his close friends. He barely calls his close friends by their names. This is very similar to Vi. Only her family, and now Caitlyn can call her Violet. Yet she has nicknames for almost everyone. Caitlyn is cupcake, Jayce is pretty boy, Ekko is little man, Jinx is pow-pow, and Ambessa is war pig (I love this one). For Caitlyn, it's completely opposite. Everyone calls her Caitlyn. Some close friends like Jayce (and Vi) sometimes call her Cait. But, nobody calls her by a nickname except Vi. I think it's because of her wealthy family background where nickname is considered as a rude manner. Yet, she likes it. She likes to be called cupcake by Vi because it's affectionate, like couples calling each other sweetheart or honey. That's why I think Caitlyn got "folded" just by Vi calling her cupcake. She really missed that kind of affection. So, in the ending scene, Caitlyn calls Vi as Violet because Caitlyn is now in Vi's family circle. Vi calls Caitlyn as cupcake because Vi is now Caitlyn's lover.
I agree with you specially when Cait folded! She was like addressed as "Commander" by everyone for a year. Then she meets Vi again and calls her "cupcake". It's like a wake up call that she is supposed to be Vi's Cupcake, not everyone's commander. I'd like to think of that moment like that.
Absolutely LOVE this synopsis! Thank you! You have officially added more mushy shit to my head-canon (which I'm just hoping in S3, whatever it may called, becomes TRUE canon"
omg i absolutely love you for this 😢
this is absolutely genius. omg you legend. THANK YOU FOR THIS AMAZINGLY INSIGHTFUL COMMENT, WOW this show gets more amazing by the day 😭😭😭
I agree! Though Jayce does call Caitlyn “Sprout” when pulling her out of her sharpshooter daydream of Jinx. Doesn’t really fit anymore with Caitlyn already on her way to growing and embracing her shadow :)
I don't know that I've seen anyone mention this, but Vi's final look also includes one leather bracer on her right wrist, just like Vander started wearing after his attempt to kill Silco, the last time he used violence before giving up that life
"I'm just not that man anymore"
I'd love for Vi, in a future story/series to not be a fighter with her hands but to try and build up a better relationship between Zaun and Piltover by giving a hand to everyone in need, basically.
Great Video! I also think that Cait calls her "Violet" now because she is calling her for who she really is and Caitlyn sees that. I also would like think it's a sweet gesture that she calls her like that now that they are officially together and live together. Like her own way of saying "my love"
Awwwwwww that’s so cute! Like how Vi calls Cait, ‘Cupcake’
Vi's character was really well constructed. Her story is very moving
VIOLET BECAME VI ALMOST THE SAME WAY THAT POWDER BECAME JINX,BOTH WERE INNOCENT SOULS ONCE,BUT THEN GREAT TRAGEDY HAPPEN TO THEM BOTH AND THEY CHOSE TO BECOME A DIFFERENT PERSON TO SURVIVE THE NEW ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY ARE FORCED IN
a nice detail that comes to mind is that Vi's hair color and Caitly's hair color, when mixed, formed violet. Vi's mother had violet hair and Caitlyn loves the color violet and the person she fell in love with is called Violet...everything makes sense
She deserves it. She deserves to be happy. She deserves to be loved. She deserves cupcake
That scene was cool on many levels. I especially love that they made Vi look so buff since she's a brawler. You see it well in that shot. I don't know why but in fantasy shows, I rarely see fighter lady types like that. Most look like they could barely lift a heavy box. If someone is physically powerful, they should look it, imho!
I was crossing my fingers and hoping we’d get a scene like this, and it paid off. I had to pause and take a minute after hearing cait call her that, it really hit me. Especially within the context that it was in, the fact that they waited to pull that out until their final scene together. It felt so heartfelt, so earned after everything. Really great video and great analysis as always. There’s a lot to focus on within the season as a whole that people seem to skip over these simpler moments, especially with these two. A lot of the discussion I’ve seen has been very jinx/ekko/viktor heavy so I appreciate that you take the time to give caitlyn and vi some love, they deserve it
It's not only about that, even if you're completely right too ! But when you think that only Vander, Jinx/powder and Vi's mother called her Violet when they're all the closest people to Vi, I also think that Vi asking and allowing Cait to call her that means for Vi that she fully considers Cait as her new family now
I appreciate you making this videos. I am not over Arcane yet. I don't think I ever will
I'm currently reading a very elaborate fanfic of the two, playing out a bit of an alternate universe for them... There is so much written out there that just fits with both their characters and that I felt the same way about. I gotta say they really did well with what little time they had in Arcane.
There's so much to explore in Vi's character and so much unspoken/unshown but it all fits together.
Whats the name of this fanfic? 🙏🏼
Can you mention the name of the fanfic please 🌹
"The threads of fate tangle and twist"
Knock yourselves out.
Don't be shy, share the name with the group
@@mischievousscroundel7277 huh it didn't post from my phone for some reason...
it's "The Threads Of Fate Tangle And Twist".
Knock yourselves out.
I never really thought about them calling each other with different names. Yes 'cup cake' is a legend now but it is a nickname. Thank you for bringing up that because this is another way of showing great details about the show! Just this detail is enough to understand that creators did a masterpiece!
The love between them is also telling us too many thing about love. It is like Caitlyn fell in love with Vi because she is kind of represent opposite of what her family represent. Vi fell in love with Caitlyn because she is so similar to her parents. It is fascinating!
As someone who goes by a short version of my full name i appreciate Caitlyn’s respect. Caitlyn’s smart she saw the name violet and vi said powder was her sister. This is the place vi chose to go when she thought she was dying.
Caitlyn knows immediately what vi is short for but doesn’t even ask why she shortened it. She keeps using vi. She was rased in a world of full names and long titles. She could be rebelling but i don’t get that energy from her over names. She just accepts that is what she wants to be called.
A small moment that says a lot about the respect caitlyn has for people.
I feel like vi is one of the only characters that got a shorter end of the stick than Caitlyn character arc wise. Yes i am still salty.
Well, Vi's my favorite character by a mile on this show, so yeah, I can see she got shafted by having a lot less screen time and a character act so condensed, mainly reduced to montages and what looks at times a second-fiddle character. But anyways, still can relate so much to her more ager/rage-prone side that it hurts lmao.
@ the writers used montages as a major crutch and the show is worse for it. They had two to three seasons of plot and character crammed into one season that was still full of bloat. While vi isn’t my favorite character. I do find her really compelling and i relate to parts of her story.
my big issue is agency. Yes it is a large cast to juggle. Even so she did not get her fair share of screen time. But the real writing problem that angers me is her lack of agency throughout season two.
Act 1 there is a good case to be made that Vi lacking agency works for her character. Vi is wrestling with guilt and shame. She is in a house with a man who hates her for what her sister did and she is trying to be supportive to her partner who is going through it. She herself recently been through a lot.
So pulling back and being passive makes sense as she tries to figure out how to move forward. However with her lack of agency in the rest of the season it gets frustrating.
Act 2 and 3. Stuff happens to vi and she gets dragged around by other characters. In stead of learning who she is on her own (out of jail) and learning to fight for herself. Learning that she matters to people even if she isn’t protecting them. They go right back two it. Now she has two little sisters. Or a little sister and a niece to protect. With Vandar…. In his state she is back to being head of house.
The parentified child doesn’t get to self actualize. I am still mad.
@@cattievogelsong96 Well, to me part of Vi not getting much weight in the story is part of her also having less screen time. The self-destructive path she takes after that discussion with Cait is just not even shown a bit, I guess you can understand where she ended up with tme montage and all that, but come on, at least a few dialogue lines with that dude Loris here and there, and some other stuff, even put in some of the lines that they included into the game. Then the same when Jinx appears to tell her that Vander reappeared but as a monstrosity, they could have put her in a more "head on" mode if you will. Finally the leadup to the jail scene, could have used some more dialogue, yes you can get that Jinx realizes she's in everyone's way and that, but crap, tell us a bit of how she came up to that idea, show us a bit of how Vi begrudgingly accepts that, then put a few more lines right after Cait arrives there.
I mean, I liked this season still, and it hit me (left me with a lot of mixed feelings tho), but that short runtime and the decision to cram everything onto just one more season left me with that sour taste that there are some things missing...
Caitlyn determining whether or not she should tell Vi her Sister could still be alive,yet also realizing she would go after Jinx to find her, By Caitlyn saying "Are you still in this Fight,Violet" I took it as if she is still with Cait. I think Vi's answer, Understood she should not tell her Jinx could still be Alive, and that Vi won't leave Cait.
Honestly, I think they both know already that Jinx is alive but she left. It's been months since the war and they cleaned out the areas. Cait holding part of Jinx's bomb proves that the scene was already investigated. They both know there's no sign of Jinx's body and no idea where she went.
@@ReeseHei-ran perhaps that is the reason we do not see Vi burn a paper like everyone else who lost someone. As it turns out the Paper Ekko burned had Powder written on it,not Jinx and learning more about the deleted scenes involving Jinx and Ekko and how there was a romantic montage of the two of them building and getting closer in a mirror shot for shot montage that Ekko had with AU Powder it is possible Jinx may have told Ekko she has to leave after they are done fighting the Noxians still having some fear that anyone who gets close to her will die. Still feeling guilt about Isha's death. So perhaps all 3 know Jinx left and Vi is Ok with that,but I do not know. there is a chance I could see Vi go after Jinx since She would never give up on her sister, as Jinx asked Vi in prison as if it was not a good thing and that it was part of the cycle that leads to Violence. Or Vi truly listened to Jinx and she should not feel guilty about being happy with Caitlyn and will not seek out Jinx. I think Jinx was heading to BilgeWater because in the Arcane Artbook which is covered in Jinx's thoughts all over it like it was her scrapbook, she had drawn a Heart over the place on the Map in the book and wrote Snobs over Demacia. So that told me, she would not go to an area where she would run into more snobs, but Bilgewater she has history with,where she got her original pants.
@@ArcaneMelodies82 Agreed. I think Vi finally made peace with Jinx's decision to leave. Jinx did tell her, "always with you sis.." but that being said she still is sad to see jinx go even though she understands and respects her decision hence we have Caitlyn asking her if she is still in this fight.. afterall, she was in it for her family (powder/jinx and Vander) now that both is gone. To which Vi responded basically saying, "I'm the dirt under your nails Cupcake..". which to me means she is now all in with Cait. This is what I think happened.
@@ArcaneMelodies82 Also after everything they have been through, I don't think Cait has it in her to keep any secrets from Vi anymore. Given she also showed full trust on Vi on the decision what to do with Jinx before, I think they are now in the stage of their relationship where they fully trust each other's decisions.
@@ReeseHei-ran what still bothers me is the tone in which Cait asks Vi if "she's still in this fight". I can come to many interpretations of that, as well as the answer, but the tone in which she asks is like idk, kinda sad. As a whole that final scene hits super hard, I can get out of it that these two just rely a lot on each other...
Great analysis! You really have an eye for details. It is so nice to understand more and more of the symbolism. I still think about the series and the Cait/Vi relationship everyday. It made such an impact on me ❤😊
I think Katie Leung (the VA for Caitlyn) herself said that Caitlyn would call her Violet.
But I’d like to think knowing Vi’s pet name for Cait is “cupcake”, Cait’s suitably (British) posh pet name would be simply (and perfectly sweetly), “Darling”
Edit: autocorrect
That's a common thing in the fandom. In almost every fanfic Caitlyn calls Vi darling, but never once does she say it in the show.
It's a Mel thing.
Lol, but I would have loved for her to say it just once!
Good stuff. I like that she calls her Violet. It’s so respectful and sweet 🧁
Beautiful video. Is wonderful how a name can mean with these two.
I just want to see them happy together... I'm heart broken over the shit they dragged her through...
Give me movie with these 2 in it. It's all I need.
I need at least 1 ACTUALLY happy moment of them in whatever spin-off they make next😪
@sckmindfrud I need it to last. That's what ruined me.
Really we need that😭😭😭
I adore your videos about Caitlyn and VI thanksss❤
You are so good at helping us see what is hidden in plain sight. Thank you.
Yar vids are always a joy to see.
Whatttt what what! Wow loved the video and the explanations. I didn’t even noticed nor thought about this and im obssed with them ! Wow you are brillant !
Cait is well educated and cultured and I could easily see her preferring to use "Violet" because she thinks it's more a beautiful name than "Vi" which everyone knows her by.
And as you pointed out, it's the reverse for Vi because she is from the streets and shortening your name is a sign of familiarity and acceptance. (In Vi's case, love.)
I don't think there is an deeper reason than that. But good video.
I’m enjoying your insight. Excellent job.
Thank you for such a great video, you explained everything very well!
LET HER COOK 🔥 Love this channel ❤
2:57 the amount of tries it took me to get the netflix series to stop EXACTLY on this frame so I could see what her mom looked like
I've also read that Caitlyn called her Violet because VI "died" alongside Jinx in the final scene
I'm curious to hear your reading on why Vi calls Caitlyn "Cupcake" in this scene. Because I made a point of going back over every instance of that nickname being used, and it's never actually flirtatious. The first time in the brothel, Vi is deliberately trying to make Caitlyn uncomfortable and then ditches her. After being saved from Sevika, it's more like grudging respect. The next couple times we hear "Cupcake," Vi is saying goodbye: on the bridge, then again after the Council meeting. But for most of S2, specifically in Act 1 and Act 3, Vi uses the diminuitive "Cait," because they are being fully honest and vulnerable with each other. There is one particularly telling instance of "Cupcake" in Act 2, when they unexpectedly reunite outside the commune. They've broken up by then, and Vi is keeping Caitlyn at arm's length, just like she did in Season 1 Act 2. To me, this looks like a pattern: Vi maintaining emotional distance to protect herself. So after the very cathartic "Cait, I don't fucking care" in the prison cell scene, why does Vi go back to using "Cupcake" in her final line of the series? 🤔
I totally see your point. Will discuss that in a video I think because it also made me wonder
Imho Vi uses cupcake in context of humor, sarcasm, or to put a certain "distance". I believe in the last scene, her answer also contains some level of sarcasm and double meaning, along with some serious self-deprecation, that she might not take that seriously. It's a bit of a joke, a bit of honesty, and a bit of recognizing she's not doing that well to say the least.
If we take into account the "dirt under the nails" part as well, I can think that she's basically saying (only as an interpretation of mine tho) something like "I'll be by tour side no matter what the world thows at us", but implicitly saying "I don't want to talk that much right now, need to wash away my grief a bit", as normally when she calls Cait like that she tries to hide something or to say something indirectly for whatever reason. At least that's my take, but there can be a whole lot of possibilities...
@@AlbnS It's like indicating her grief is super hard, and she's not that willing to talk very much, that it will take her quite a bit of time to overcome it...
It’s a form of intimacy, I personally like that. It’s the reverse situation with Caitlyn; only intimate people call her Cait (Jayce and Vi). It’s cute.
Vi has hundreds of pet names for Caitlyn: KittyCait, Cupcait, and Cupcake being some of them. This is true, I read it in the dictionary.
Thank you for your contribution to the series, I see that some channels believe that the most characteristic couple of Arcane are Ekko and Jinx but if we compare it, and I don't like to compare, Vi and Caytlin without the central characteristic of couples and people like many We have felt each other on more than one occasion. Now that I remember only Jayce called Caytlin "Kate"
Amazing explanation👏
Great point ! I can't wait to see what you got in store ❤
Couldn't agree more Ola🥰 Funny how that relates to a Violet Flower meaning
New beginnings, loyalty and love, amongst other things of course🙂
Much Love Ola stay safe!
Could you analyse the scene were Ekko talks to Jinx before she blow herself up?
No, cuz it's not Cait and Vi. There is no show. Only Cait and Vi. Do not pretend that anything happened other than Cait and Vi. There will be no content on anything that is not Cait and Vi, because that would imply that anything else happened or mattered. Nothing happened. It was 18 episodes of Cait and Vi.
Yes she's no longer the same person, she evolved. I love your videos ❤
great video!!
The theme of names and identity is obvious with Jinx/Powder, it's interesting that Vi/Violet may have already gone through such a change herself after the prologue scene, though a much more subtle version.
I wish i was vi or had vi and cait in life
The legendary cheat ability of Arcane fans to overanalyze every minor detail
Well, is not like they didn't put tiny details and references all over the place haha
i had already relized that pwder and vi made purple like their moms hair but i just relized that kats and vi hair (blue and red) also makes violet(purple)
❤❤❤❤ bellissimo!! Video grazie!! Non vedo l'ora che le mie ragazze tornino❤
Am I here to listen to your analysis of something related to Caitlyn and Vi relationship first thing in the morning before work - hell right I am. Thank you for making my day! Keep those videos coming, looking forward to those!
Again a very nice analysis.
This hit me hard 1:14
At this point I am convinced that absolutely nothing in Arcane is coincidential, every minute detail has symbolism and lots of thought put in both by the showrunners and Fortiche.
YES
I think that violet is also a sign of ownership, she is literally already his wife Or at least their relationship is already at a very high point of commitment. and caitlyn is not very tender or expressive with her words She'd rather let criminals escape from prison, betray a Noxian dictator, or accept the most unconventional family than say anything sweet.or at least that's how I saw it
YAYYYY another caitvi analysis dropped😊
This isn't THE video about their relationship through both seasons right? Cause I'm waiting with popcorn and.... I just saw the outro nvm
@SebastianCONSTAINCALERO haha yeah that one is still coming!
Well done....It sort of comes down to the height thing on the wall. But the essay is fun.
So uh where'd you get that Arcane poster behind you 🤭 PLEASE I NEED IT
These are Displate ones, metal, check their website, they have a whole Arcane series I am obsessed with!
To me Vi does not look healthy, but instead "half dead" from her still grieving at the end of the show. (She reminds me of (Disney's) Hercules after he found about Meg was working for Hades.)
But okay...I guess you can also call that peaceful.
I did not notice that she put on some weight, but if she did that could also be from her being depressed after losing everyone in her family for good.
She's not completely healthy, and she never fully will be, but she is a far cry from where she was before. She is still grieving, but that's the point: she's grieving. She hasn't even been able to do that. She hasn't had a safe place to grieve over the death of her parents, over Vander, over Claggor and Mylo, over her sister. But she can now. She feels safe enough to grieve instead of bottling it up and ignoring it.
@@Sorfallo That is something I can agree with.
I love this and how much detail they have put into the show. I was wondering if I was the only one that noticed she gained a little weight.
Thank you for your hardwork and always love your video analysis. I don't have any added extra commentary and I love everybody else's thoughts. I think I've said it before but "Cupcake" is my favorite character from the series.
I was a little sad to see that in the French version she justs says Vi. Using Violet denotes a very close connection between the characters. I think only Powder called her sister Violet in the show ?
She called her Violet cuz she respects her loves her and cuz Cait is a British..
Why in half of the scenes Cait and Vi are together, either of them is hurt? They should work on blocking better. Vi stabbing weapons and Cait... explosions.
That said, I suppose I agree with it. After all that happened Violet should start rebuilding her life (with Cait's help too) letting go of her hostility for topside and all and be free. Again.
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Well VI is not her real name her real name is
Violet
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Are we having essays for everything now?
For as long as I breathe