Distilling does rewove Fluoride and chlorine. It removes all dissolved solids. Those chemicals are solid minerals/salts that are too heavy to be picked up by the steam. The harsh taste you get sometimes in your distilled water isn't because of chemicals, it's just the remnants of carbon gas from the junk in the dirty water breaking down. Any harsh tastes will go away if you let it sit. That has more to do with with the daily quality of water and how much algae/plant material is in the tap. What it doesn't remove are alcohols and vinegars, which are almost non existent in any drinking water. There's not much of anything that distilling misses. If you want to deep clean your condenser tubes in your distiller, put a little vinegar in it and run a batch.
thanks for the feedback. I will do more research on it and have a chat with my chemist on it. Problem with chlorine and fluoride is they are both gases trapped in the water, not solids. this makes it hard to remove with distillation.
I put a 1/2 teaspoon of Citric Acid into the water that I am going to boil, boil the water and then I have it shut the distiller off just before it runs dry, then add more water if boiling again. I usually do two batches, sometimes three before I throw what is left out. I then run it through a ProOne G2.0 7-Inch Gravity Water Replacement Filter, And the water is ready.
@@keithjohnson5190if you are adding Citric acid every single time to the water you are distilling for drinking and not just for cleaning, that could affect the longevity of the steel. I'm not sure about throwing citric acid in there every single time.
Hi, what I do is add one teaspoon, boil, I usually have about 1” water left in the pot, then I add more water again boil again, add more water and do another boil. I usually get 3 boils before I clear the distiller or add any more Citric Acid.If it is clean I just add water and boil again. I have been doing it this way for about 10 years with my oldest distiller, it looks like it is new. Thanks guy.
This might be hard for you to believe but right after I started drinking DW (even without charcoal filter), I started to feel really bad and getting nausea. Then I stopped for couple days and symptoms went away. Then drank again and immediately got really bad feelings in my body. So it is from the DW. Then I asked about this in Water Distillers FB group and there were people who are also very sensitive to DW. One guy said he was sick for 2 weeks drinking it. And they said sensitive individuals should slowly increase their intake of DW and at the beginning titrate it with filtered tap water. At first I couldn't believe it but now I gotta believe. I've always been extremely sensitive person to many things like supplement etc. Just wanted to share you this if you have any experience with this. Because Google doesn't show up any info about this case. it should be something about that the water is super clean so it starts to pull toxins from the body and that is causing these herxheimer reactions. But I would love to know it for sure.. what is the mechanism causing this issue.
I have said this in numerous videos. distilled water and Reverse Osmosis water should not be drank. Water is extremely polar negative and positive. What it means is that by itself it is very needy. Normally with drinking water the minerals fill in the holes, so not a problem. Now take those out and the extreme polar nature of water returns. And you know where it gets the nutrients to fill up those holes, from your body as it passes through it. DW and RO water is okay for a week for detoxing the body. it will do this job well. After that you need to switch to filtered water, alkaline water or tap water. RO and DW water would be fine with coffee, tea, or mixing it with something like Emergen C. Still my preferred drinking water personally is alkaline water at about 8.5ph. You can safely use DW and RO water if you remineralizer it. Here is a link to my video on re-mineralizing DW and RO water: th-cam.com/video/ep03cswkZ80/w-d-xo.html
@@AlchemyWizard Thanks a ton. Now I'm starting to see the picture. I'm planning to buy ProOne filtration system. Most likely that won't cause me the issues. But I will try DW with mineralization later as well. Will watch the video you linked to me.
You might not believe it but I've always been very allergic to charcoal. So when using the sacket, I get allergic reactions. Glad I find the answer that it's not mandatory to use it. I also always put already filtered water to my distillation pot.
Yep, no need for charcoal. You pre filter it, so what you get on the output is as pure distilled water as you can get. Here is another tip. Don't let the distiller empty out. Turn it off about half hour before it will be empty. Discard the small amount of water left in it. When the water gets low, the minerals left in the water are concentrated and because these are not lab quality distillers, some of those minerals may vaporize due to the high temperature of the small amount of water. These can recombine in your distilled water. Also by doing it this way, you never hard boil the distiller and you won't need to clean it that often, if at all.
@@AlchemyWizard Yes, I actually knew this tip about turning it off half our before the end. Thanks for your answer. I really appreciate TH-camrs who answer the comments.
How do you feel about distilling the tap water first then run it through one of those zero water filter systems? Maybe it would produce the same results while allowing that filter to last longer.....
I've tested this. After distilling the water, the video microscope shows it clear of things in there. After I pour the now clear distilled water through the zero filter, the microscope shows addition of some compounds, probably carbon or some other media they use in it that does not break down. The water still measures 0 PPM. If your are doing LVDC electrolysis the water would probably be fine. However it does not work with plasma arc, which is telling that there certainly is something in the water that was not there after distilling. Plasma arc will only form when it's pure water with nothing in it.
I have a question. I have a zero water filter pitcher. It came with a TDS meter. I use this water for my ice cubes. The last few times I used my distiller the water smelled horrible. I cleaned out the tube and the base with vinegar & baking soda. Thoroughly rinsed it and removed the charcoal packet. The bottom of my distiller would always have disgusting ruminants from the water used. Can I use the zero water filtered water in my distiller and get rid of the problem? Or am I being redundant? Is water with a 0 TDS reading like distilled water?
yes, I would use the zero-water filter water in the distiller. it is a low cost way of making pure distilled water without having to use RO water. Tap water can leave gunk on the bottom of the distiller and may still have a bad taste to it, without redistilling it again. You also will not have to clean out the distiller when using RO or Zero-Water filtered water.
This makes sense. I've started experimenting with a ZeroWater filter and it claims to remove everything VOCs and TDS (including Chlorine to 0.03mg/l), and indeed the TDS measures at zero and I think the results are good enough for my needs (remineralising water according to recipes for making coffee). So distilling will remove the remaining tiny amounts of things but perhaps I don't need to bother. I was looking at distillers in the hope that I could use them *instead* of the filters. But if I have to filter before (or after) distilling anyway that negates the point for my purpose. *Unless* I can use some cheaper filter first. That might be worth investigating.
If your intention for a distiller is just to clean up the water for teas, coffees, recipes and re-mineralized drinking water, you can just use a good filter, zero filter, or RO unit. Which one you use depends on how much water you need for your household. Here with electric cost, it costs about 25 cents to distill a gallon of water, and takes about 3.5 hours. You only need distilled water for things like CPAC machines, vaporizes, etc, and of course laboratory work.
Do a combo. Distill first for the purification heavy lifting, then use the ZeroWater in post to remove any lingering VOCs or minimal remaining TDS. The ZeroWater filter will last a super long time too since the distiller is doing most of the work. Meanwhile sometimes those cheap distillers leave a bit of an odd taste despite making the water really clean, and the ZeroWater will handle that.
@@4DTravelr I think the conclusion I'm coming to is that for coffee water, the Zero water filter is both unavoidable and sufficient. Some other treatment first would make the ZeroWater filters last longer but it might not save much (if any) money given the cost of the other treatment.
@@4DTravelr I've actually tested this. It be fine for drinking and for nebulizers, oil diffusers, vaporizes, etc. Not sure about CPAC though. The filter media i zero filter messes up the distilled water and leaves things behind that prevent a plasma arc from forming. They can even pose a problem with LVDC electrolysis colloidal, especially with ruby red gold, where these particles can have unpredictable results.
I need distilled water for a cpap machine. We are not drinking it. Would I need the carbon filter? Also, if I am not drinking it, would I need to use citric acid to clean it? Any info you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
You won't need the carbon filter in the distiller, unless the water you distill has some kind of odor in it. As far as cleaning the distiller, yes you still need to clean it because the minerals from your water will build up on the inside. If the concentrations get high enough these minerals will vaporize and you will have them coming out the distilled water side. Here is another good tip, which I did not include in this video but in a later one. use a timer with your distiller and have it shut off 30 minutes before all the water is gone. This will prevent heavy minerals in the water from vaporizing at the last 10 minutes of the process, as the distillers internal temperature skyrockets. I use Alexa with my distiller hooked up to one of those power on off devices. but an old fashion time works too. Also it will make cleaning the distiller much easier as you won't be baking the minerals into the bottom of the distiller.
For CPAP machine it will not matter if you leave the carbon filter in there. However you will have to change the carbon filter after about 300 gallons of distillation. When the carbon gets saturated it will start to dump the stuff back into the water it previously absorbed. The distilled water could develop a smell or taste if the carbon filter needs changing.
I've been using carbon filters for years in various water filtration units. just run water through it. Im pretty sure you could just rinse it in a strainer with running water as an alternative.
IMO, the carbon filter is so small in the end of the distiller that even if it did not contribute to the contamination of the final product water, it's fairly useless for removing anything.
I always thought that distilling water didn't remove chlorine and fluoride. Thanks for confirming that . I was also told RO removes fluoride. So now you've confused me again. Can you tell us the ppm for all water types you have please? Thanks . Most underwater sink filter systems use carbon filters yet they don't remove fluoride. So I'm totally confused how a little teabag of carbon can do what a twin system can't?
RO filters use a carbon filter which will remove chlorine. Fluoride is removed by the RO filter itself, as the Fluoride molecule is too large to pass through the RO filter. The PPM formula is the same for all the colloidal: • ppm = material used (in grams) x 10^6 / amount in mL. • ex: 14ppm = 0.007g X 1000000 Now just a note on this general formula for PPM. It is a general formula. It by no means takes into account the size of the molecules. For example gold is larger molecule than silver. If you take into account the size of the molecule, you get very different PPM numbers but much more accurate. However the general PPM formula has become the de facto standard these days. Sadly it is only a guide of the material used in the process and not actual PPM numbers. That small carbon filter in the end of the distiller does nothing. It is just a gimmick. I myself tried pouring fluid through these small tea-bag filters and it made no difference on the TDS meter. The under sink carbon filters like you find in 3 and five stage water filtering do remove that stuff.
A RO filter system is not a standard under the counter filter system. It must contain the RO filter in the final stage. This stage forces the water through a membrane that will only let a certain size particles pass through it. the size of the fluoride molecule cannot fit through the membrane, so the fluoride does not pass.
RO water will read 8ppm or lower on the TDS meter. Spring water will read about 30 to 60ppm. Well water reads 90 to 180ppm depending on your well water. I have no idea what city water measures at. perhaps someone can test that and let us know.
Distillation removes fluoride lol. As for chlorine many distillers remove it through both VOC vents and a post carbon filter pouch. Still distillation is not always the best for VOCs especially chloramines are stubborn, so you could run through a PUR carbon block pitcher or a ZeroWater pitcher after distillation to really get them out.
@@AlchemyWizard I was considering a ro system, but think distilled is better. I visited a local water store with a massive ro system, but was surprised they still had a problem with some contaminates. Do you think the carbon filter in my samsung fridge is effective enough as a first step?
btw, I told the water store guy I was looking for glass jugs, and he said they were as hazardous as plastic, since they had forever chemicals in them. I'm skeptical. :)
@@tonyd4941 RO will give you 8 parts per million water. It's not distilled water and the microscope shows a considerable difference. Distilled is the most pure but it really depends what you are looking to use the water for. For things like breathing machines you need distilled water. For drinking either distilled water or RO will work but you should re-mineralize them for drinking. The carbon filter in the refrigerator good start to removing most of the big offenders from the water. Below are some links to look at: th-cam.com/video/ep03cswkZ80/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/4FxeAH_jgkE/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/TmQZ3KL0Fbg/w-d-xo.html
@@tonyd4941 If its modern glass then it should be fine. Glass is the safest way to store drinking water. Older glass jugs had lead and other not so nice chemicals in them but that was years ago. I've no idea what he means by "forever chemicals." With that said if you can use glass great. If not then Class 5, PP, Polypropylene is probably the best kind of plastic. I've got a video on the different kinds of plastic. th-cam.com/video/rzcC2YK3lCM/w-d-xo.html
I use rain water when ever I get a good rain, I wait to give it time to clean the metal roof and just set a plastic dishpan under the down spout and then dump it into a plastic bucket, about three times will fill the 5 gallon bucket. I run two 1 gallon distillers and do 2-3 boils when I run them.
@@keithjohnson5190 I've measured rain water here at 5-ppm. And yea it can make a good clean water to dump into your distiller to take the last of that stuff out. You should get 0-ppm at the output, but I suppose it still could depend on what in your rain water to start with.
Thank you for this video, I was wondering why there was a carbon filter in my distiller. It also imparts a taste to the distilled water I don’t like so will be putting it in a filter before distilling.
My friend is a chemist and she also removes the carbon bag out of the output of distiller. It just messes with the experiments. Thanks for dropping me a note.
Thank you for this video. I have learned so much from you, thank you. I fortunately have access to an artesian spring that I use for making distilled water. However, it's high in minerals, and after watching one of your other videos I need to distill the water 2x to get it to 0ppm.
My water is high in minerals as well. You can put it through something like ZeroFilter first, but then you will have to buy filters as the ZeroFilter becomes clogged. And it clogs fast due to the high mineral content. Other thing you can do is get a RO (reverse osmosis) system for the mineral water and then put that water into the distiller. That is if you don't want to distiller it twice. Amazon Associate Links • ZeroWater Pitcher on Amazon: amzn.to/3BARy1X • RO Water Unit on Amazon: amzn.to/3dDAy3g
I did not read the manual and drank one glass of the first batch. Did i poison myself? It tasted nasty. Also the distiller said it is "food grade" but even after i washed it there was grey stuff coming of the metal parts when i wiped it. All this stuff is made in China, not sure it is so "food grade".
Generally it takes one batch of distilled water in a new machine before it makes pure distilled water. I'm sure you will be fine drinking the one glass. I'd toss the rest. I certainly would not use this first batch for colloidal work. Make another batch. Use a TDS meter and measure the output and make sure its near 0-ppm. If the water you put in to distiller is high in minerals you may have to pre filter the water or distill the water a second time. If the grey stuff was coming from inside the distiller body that could be normal. The water left behind in the distiller will be full of the impurities that was in the water you put in it. If grey stuff was coming out the output, then I don't know. See what happens with a second batch. Test it with TDS meter before drinking the second batch.
basically all the distillers that look like the one featured in the video are the same. some add timers and electronics to them. None of them are perfect and if your water is heavily mineralized, like over 90ppm, you probably will have to distill the water twice to get it down to 0ppm. If you run your tap water through one of those pitcher filters first, then you will probably only have to distill the water once.
My working hypothesis is that the brisk boiling causes microscopic droplets of water to float out of the machine along with the steam. I have to distill twice to get acceptable results. I'm about to try to put the carbon inside of the distiller to trap water droplets before the get out, and allow only the steam. If only steam was coming out, we would never need any carbon at all. Any comment?
Sounds reasonable. These distillers are quick distillers, they are not the same as the glass laboratory distillers, which take much longer and produce far less distilled water. However the water coming out of them is extremely pure. let me know how your experiment works out.
@@AlchemyWizard Just received my TDS meter. Base line is tap water at 77ppm. Distilling twice with the lower unit connected to 100Vac and the resulting water reads 3ppm. I have another batch at 90Vac on its second pass. My next move is to add a charcoal filter inside of the boiler, before it even gets inside of the condenser coil. We'll see how it comes out.
@@AlchemyWizard A minor milestone: Supplying the base of the distiller with 80Vac I distilled one gallon in one pass that took 9 hours, and the water read 2 ppm on the TDS scale. Furthermore, the water had no smell at all. This would tend to support my working hypothesis to the effect that brisk boiling produces tiny water droplets that get pushed out of the boiling vessel to contaminate the distilled water in the receiving container. I am now trying at 75Vac using the same Variac as a power source and feeding 120Vac to the top part.
Wow, I want one! Yes that is an excellent (and an expensive) filter system to use. Nice going there. It should be fine for using before your distillation process.
If you don't have the real Floride Berkeley filter and I'm 100% sure you don't just distill the water the Berkeley ain't doing nothing the FDA shut Berkeley from making real Floride filters
Very helpful. I received this distiller as a gift to use in humidifier and CPAP. Do you know if it’s safe to breathe in water distilled this way with the carbon? I’ve been using store bought distilled and thought this would be cheaper and more convenient long term (plus more environmentally friendly)
The carbon will remove some Volatile organic compounds (VOCs) . I like using the carbon filter before the distillation, as the carbon filter at the output of the distiller will change the PH and add some carbon in the water. Also that small carbon filter becomes saturated fast and when that happens it just dumps the VOCs back into your water at twice the amount. For a humidifier the VOCs should not present any problems, nor should the small amount of carbon that may be in the water effect those as well. I'm not sure about the CPAP. What I would suggest, even though it may be an extra step, I would get one of those carbon filter pitchers. Remove the carbon bag from the output of the distiller. Fill the carbon filter pitcher thing with tap water. Then pour the filtered tap water from the pitcher into the distiller. Now you will have as clean distilled water you can get. Below is a link to the Zero Water Filter Pitcher. I am sure you have seen them. • ZeroWater Pitcher on Amazon: amzn.to/3BARy1X
Never had a problem with mine, water tastes fresh and sweet every time. one very important tip - use a timer and cut it short of boiling down to much. which can afeect the taste and will make it easyer to clean and extend the life of the Disstiler. water from the tap may be safe to drink but its not healthy, limescale is calcium and that can build up in the joints and the arterys and cause kidny stones just for starters. so even if you are just useing a britta filter its better for you. but when you can get a Disstiller plug it in at night with a timer wake up to 4 ltrs of fresh filtered water every day for years to come, sadly thats no going to be good enough for a family so then RO becomes your best option. we are 85% water so its important.
I have the amazon alexa and the tp link devices. I plug one of the switch things. One is dedicated to my distiller. I just say "Alexa turn on the distiller for 3 hours 30 minutes. the timer stops it with about an inch of water left in the bottom. I agree the distilled water comes out much better if you stop the process before all the water boils away. I did an article on re-mineralizing distilled water using sea salt. Check it out. While you can drink distilled and RO water, you should plug up the holes in waters polar nature. th-cam.com/video/ep03cswkZ80/w-d-xo.html
@@AlchemyWizard i prefer anolog its more dependable and gives me peace of mind but its a clever idea. sea salt is ok but better with a dedecated organic mineral suppliment as the minerals are in cystaline form in salt. but from the research i have done its not that important while it will break down the calcium deposits it leaves the other minerals alone and you want to get rid of that exess calcium anyway. thanks for the feedback and happy drinking.
Yeay tell me about it i used your tip to boil for 10 minutes the charcoal filters and they all busted open just scrapped all my 4 filters lol😂😂😂😂😂😂 but i found a solution to these filters i use my keurig coffe machine carbon filters much better quality and most of people know that you have to soak these filters at least 15minutes and then rinced them well
not quite right , the chlorin is going through the destiller in the beginning then it will end , so cast away the first cup then it will be clean and you can mesure it with the meter .
Correct, if you have chlorinated water, it will pass through the distiller because it's a trapped gas. However if you put the chlorinated water through a charcoal filter first, then in the distiller, you can probably remove most of it. I don't have chlorinated water here, but my guess is if I did, I have to do what you are doing as well or take a sample at the start to make sure the chlorine is not making its way out of it.
Do you know What is better at removing the birth control hormones and estrogen from the tap water reverse osmosis or a water distiller I don’t know if you know how effective a water distiller would be at removing them
It is unbelievable that we in a world where the lifeblood fluid we need to survive is often contaminated with these things. I really do not know the answer to this question. I went to google and started reading about it. I don't really want to say anything like I did with fluoride because again there seems to be various opinions and research on it. With estrogen and birth control hormones articles that I found they say it can be removed with distillation and RO filter and others say it cannot or only reduced. One articles states that carbon filter may remove 80%. One scientific paper I found shows that Reverse Osmosis removes estrogen from the water. With RO filtration the deciding factor would be the size of the particle you want to remove. If the RO membrane has a smaller hole size than the hormone or estrogen particle it would not go through it. With distillation it would depend if the substance is stored in the water as a ionic substance or as a gas. Gas substances will pass through the distillation process and recombine when it cools. Distillers have a hard time removing VOC (volatile organic chemicals) and SOC (synthetic organic chemicals). I will talk to my chemist on this and see if she can find out the size of these particles and their state when mixed with water. I will report back. It is an interesting question for sure. Perhaps someone else who may be more in the know can share as well on this topic.
@@AlchemyWizard yeah it’s disgusting and is one of the main reasons the male testosterone leval isn’t the same as it was in the 1980s and below because it was double to triple back then because the water wasent as near contaminated with birth control as it is now and it would only get worse it’s the birth control and the micro plastics which leak in to the bottled water which have the xenoestrogens which act as estrogens what are the 2 main reasons behind the male testosterone being a lot less then before which is the main reason why I want to get a water distiller so I won’t be consuming the birth control and the estrogen in the plastic bottles I would realistically want the water distiller to Remove 90% or more of the birth control chemicals from the water I don’t know if you know how much estrogens the charcol filter bags they give would remove and would you recommend putting in 2 bags in the water distiller to remove more estrogens or no
@@pitch1691 I would instead get a zero pitcher water filter, put the tap water in to that. This will filter all the chemical junk out or at least reduce it. Then you can put that into the distiller to clean it up. The other more expensive way is to do a RO setup, then distill the water. That small bag of carbon they put in distillers today, does not work.
@@pitch1691 I have this one that I got in here for testing purposes. I do not know how much of the estrogen and hormones or birth control it removes, they do not say. It does remove chlorine and may remove fluoride. It does produce 0-ppm water as measured on the TDS meter. In the microscope it shows some VOC's about 4 to 6 ppm. The RO water shows a little lower in the microscope. The pitcher is a good alternative to RO water without the expense and installation cost. • ZeroWater Pitcher on Amazon: amzn.to/3BARy1X
Is the fluoride in the water after distillation? Some filters like the Britta long life (elite) filter claim to remove fluoride. I have not tested it though. If it does you could put the water through the filter before you put it in the distiller to remove it beforehand.
Reverse osmosis (RO) is a water purification process that uses a semi-permeable membrane to remove contaminants and large particles from drinking water. Typically 120ppm water will be reduced to 6 to 10 ppm (parts per million) Typical RO Unit: • RO Water Unit on Amazon: amzn.to/3dDAy3g
Now you gave me clarity. I'm using well water. So i don't need that carbon filter i guess. That's exactly what's happening to me. 1st distillation i had 0015 PPM. Second i had 0004 PPM. Third 0003 PPM. I'm removing that carbon filter tomorrow.
Check on line to find out what your well water VOC content may be. If its above safe levels then put the well water through a activate carbon filter before distillation, using one of those canister filters where you pour the water through it. But yes, that carbon filter at the end of the distiller, even it if did remove VOC would not remove very much before it started putting it back into your water. Ditch that carbon filter.
@@AlchemyWizard , we have the same distiller. I already removed the carbon filter. Water produced still has 0002 PPM. What else can i do to make it zero by distilling alone?
@@commandernoodles2367 2ppm is okay. You can use that and it will be fine. If you did not want to use a pre-filter (like one of those pitcher filters), then your only other alternative is to distill the water again. What is the PPM of the water you are starting with? VOC will not come out of the water through distillation. If you got VOC in there then you will have to pre-filter the water through a pitcher drip filter with carbon in it. There is also the possibility your meter is off a small bit. I think you will be fine with 2ppm distilled water. Anything below 5 would produce perfect results.
@@AlchemyWizard , ironic because water that we buy which is purified only (not even RO) shows zero PPM. Well water that i distill has 146 PPM. Based on your explanation, distilled water doesn't necessarily mean pure water. Thank you for being informative.
@@commandernoodles2367 These distillers we have today are far from perfect. My well water is 150ppm as well, but I have a RO filter I put the water through first. Then it goes into the distiller. I'm sure if I tried to distill my well water directly I would have to do it twice as well.
You may have to distill it again. If your tap water is like 300ppm then one run through may not be enough. I would also suggest you do not cook the distiller empty. Leave about an inch of water in the bottom. On my distiller it takes 4 hours to do a gallon, so I stop it at 3.5 hours. that stuff at the bottom if it gets too hot can vaporize and contaminate your distilled water. You can also use one of those filter-pitchers to pre-filter the water before distilling it to get rid of the harsh stuff that may be in there.
people do more research my understanding of distillaton is different that his opinion. as for charcole its not a dangerious thing er use charcole for some poisions / ro water is about as clean as water gets . my town uses it with brackish water but does add clorine and necessary minerals as for floride i grew up on floradated water my 2 i and 2 year younger cousins had well water im 70 with 85% of my teeth they had no teeth about 40 yrs old
Nothing wrong with passing RO or distilled water through a carbon filter as long as you do not need pristine water. For creating a plasma arc the arc will not form if you pass the distilled water through a carbon filter after. It all depends on what you're using your water for after it's distilled. For sure, a carbon filter for tap water is good to do before drinking. Refrigerator filters all have a carbon block.
From everything I have read and from conversations with my chemist about Fluoride is that only Reverse Osmosis can remove it completely. Some mechanical filters can reduce it but not remove it completely. Charcoal filter and even distilling will not remove fluoride as it is a gas trapped in the water. you distill it the gas is still trapped in the vapors, it just recombines at the output. Why charcoal removes chlorine and not fluoride, again from what I read, has to do with the molecule size of fluoride. it can pass through charcoal but it can't pass through the membrane in a RO Filter.
@@AlchemyWizard believe it or not my grandmother taught me that. And she was born in 1906. She would take the water and leave it out overnight and then she could water her African violets
Why are you giving wrong information the distillation process dose get rid of fluoride and I’m pretty sure chlorine as well but from what I’ve heard it dose 100persent get rid of fluoride i was questioning all the people I’ve heard say it dose get rid of fluoride because of this video but you have to be wrong your the only person I’ve heard who said it dosent get rid of fluoride from distillation process So you should do your research on how it dose get rid of fluoride before spreading information and making people like me question myself
@@AlchemyWizard how do you know that is there any proof you can give me to back up your state meant ,fluoride gets left behind in the distillation process because it has a different boiling point to water Your the only person I’ve heard tell me that so like I said if you can prove that
@@AlchemyWizard how do you know that is there any proof you can give me to back up your state meant ,fluoride gets left behind in the distillation process
@@pitch1691 I will discuss it with my chemist again and see if she can dig up some papers on removing fluoride. It comes down to how the compound is stored in water. In water, fluoride can exist as a colorless gas or be dissolved in water. Any trapped gas will recombine when the vapor cools and still be present. Dissolved particles are removed by distillation.
@@AlchemyWizard yes because if you look on TH-cam and look at videos on what a water distiller can remove they all say fluoride and there talking about the distillation process I would think not the bags what comes with it if you look online to see what people say there mabye I don’t know because I’ve only seen people say it dose
Distilling does rewove Fluoride and chlorine. It removes all dissolved solids. Those chemicals are solid minerals/salts that are too heavy to be picked up by the steam. The harsh taste you get sometimes in your distilled water isn't because of chemicals, it's just the remnants of carbon gas from the junk in the dirty water breaking down. Any harsh tastes will go away if you let it sit. That has more to do with with the daily quality of water and how much algae/plant material is in the tap.
What it doesn't remove are alcohols and vinegars, which are almost non existent in any drinking water. There's not much of anything that distilling misses.
If you want to deep clean your condenser tubes in your distiller, put a little vinegar in it and run a batch.
thanks for the feedback. I will do more research on it and have a chat with my chemist on it. Problem with chlorine and fluoride is they are both gases trapped in the water, not solids. this makes it hard to remove with distillation.
I put a 1/2 teaspoon of Citric Acid into the water that I am going to boil, boil the water and then I have it shut the distiller off just before it runs dry, then add more water if boiling again. I usually do two batches, sometimes three before I throw what is left out. I then run it through a ProOne G2.0 7-Inch Gravity Water Replacement Filter, And the water is ready.
@@keithjohnson5190if you are adding Citric acid every single time to the water you are distilling for drinking and not just for cleaning, that could affect the longevity of the steel. I'm not sure about throwing citric acid in there every single time.
Hi, what I do is add one teaspoon, boil, I usually have about 1” water left in the pot, then I add more water again boil again, add more water and do another boil. I usually get 3 boils before I clear the distiller or add any more Citric Acid.If it is clean I just add water and boil again. I have been doing it this way for about 10 years with my oldest distiller, it looks like it is new. Thanks guy.
@@AlchemyWizard chlorine is a gas, but fluoride is not a gas
This might be hard for you to believe but right after I started drinking DW (even without charcoal filter), I started to feel really bad and getting nausea. Then I stopped for couple days and symptoms went away. Then drank again and immediately got really bad feelings in my body. So it is from the DW.
Then I asked about this in Water Distillers FB group and there were people who are also very sensitive to DW. One guy said he was sick for 2 weeks drinking it. And they said sensitive individuals should slowly increase their intake of DW and at the beginning titrate it with filtered tap water.
At first I couldn't believe it but now I gotta believe. I've always been extremely sensitive person to many things like supplement etc.
Just wanted to share you this if you have any experience with this. Because Google doesn't show up any info about this case.
it should be something about that the water is super clean so it starts to pull toxins from the body and that is causing these herxheimer reactions.
But I would love to know it for sure.. what is the mechanism causing this issue.
I have said this in numerous videos. distilled water and Reverse Osmosis water should not be drank. Water is extremely polar negative and positive. What it means is that by itself it is very needy. Normally with drinking water the minerals fill in the holes, so not a problem. Now take those out and the extreme polar nature of water returns. And you know where it gets the nutrients to fill up those holes, from your body as it passes through it.
DW and RO water is okay for a week for detoxing the body. it will do this job well. After that you need to switch to filtered water, alkaline water or tap water. RO and DW water would be fine with coffee, tea, or mixing it with something like Emergen C. Still my preferred drinking water personally is alkaline water at about 8.5ph. You can safely use DW and RO water if you remineralizer it. Here is a link to my video on re-mineralizing DW and RO water:
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@@AlchemyWizard Thanks a ton. Now I'm starting to see the picture. I'm planning to buy ProOne filtration system. Most likely that won't cause me the issues. But I will try DW with mineralization later as well. Will watch the video you linked to me.
You might not believe it but I've always been very allergic to charcoal. So when using the sacket, I get allergic reactions. Glad I find the answer that it's not mandatory to use it. I also always put already filtered water to my distillation pot.
Yep, no need for charcoal. You pre filter it, so what you get on the output is as pure distilled water as you can get.
Here is another tip. Don't let the distiller empty out. Turn it off about half hour before it will be empty. Discard the small amount of water left in it. When the water gets low, the minerals left in the water are concentrated and because these are not lab quality distillers, some of those minerals may vaporize due to the high temperature of the small amount of water. These can recombine in your distilled water. Also by doing it this way, you never hard boil the distiller and you won't need to clean it that often, if at all.
@@AlchemyWizard Yes, I actually knew this tip about turning it off half our before the end. Thanks for your answer. I really appreciate TH-camrs who answer the comments.
How do you feel about distilling the tap water first then run it through one of those zero water filter systems? Maybe it would produce the same results while allowing that filter to last longer.....
I've tested this. After distilling the water, the video microscope shows it clear of things in there. After I pour the now clear distilled water through the zero filter, the microscope shows addition of some compounds, probably carbon or some other media they use in it that does not break down. The water still measures 0 PPM. If your are doing LVDC electrolysis the water would probably be fine. However it does not work with plasma arc, which is telling that there certainly is something in the water that was not there after distilling. Plasma arc will only form when it's pure water with nothing in it.
I have a question. I have a zero water filter pitcher. It came with a TDS meter. I use this water for my ice cubes. The last few times I used my distiller the water smelled horrible. I cleaned out the tube and the base with vinegar & baking soda. Thoroughly rinsed it and removed the charcoal packet.
The bottom of my distiller would always have disgusting ruminants from the water used.
Can I use the zero water filtered water in my distiller and get rid of the problem? Or am I being redundant? Is water with a 0 TDS reading like distilled water?
yes, I would use the zero-water filter water in the distiller. it is a low cost way of making pure distilled water without having to use RO water. Tap water can leave gunk on the bottom of the distiller and may still have a bad taste to it, without redistilling it again. You also will not have to clean out the distiller when using RO or Zero-Water filtered water.
This makes sense. I've started experimenting with a ZeroWater filter and it claims to remove everything VOCs and TDS (including Chlorine to 0.03mg/l), and indeed the TDS measures at zero and I think the results are good enough for my needs (remineralising water according to recipes for making coffee). So distilling will remove the remaining tiny amounts of things but perhaps I don't need to bother.
I was looking at distillers in the hope that I could use them *instead* of the filters. But if I have to filter before (or after) distilling anyway that negates the point for my purpose. *Unless* I can use some cheaper filter first. That might be worth investigating.
If your intention for a distiller is just to clean up the water for teas, coffees, recipes and re-mineralized drinking water, you can just use a good filter, zero filter, or RO unit. Which one you use depends on how much water you need for your household. Here with electric cost, it costs about 25 cents to distill a gallon of water, and takes about 3.5 hours. You only need distilled water for things like CPAC machines, vaporizes, etc, and of course laboratory work.
@@AlchemyWizard makes sense. I think I'm on the right track, then.
Do a combo. Distill first for the purification heavy lifting, then use the ZeroWater in post to remove any lingering VOCs or minimal remaining TDS. The ZeroWater filter will last a super long time too since the distiller is doing most of the work. Meanwhile sometimes those cheap distillers leave a bit of an odd taste despite making the water really clean, and the ZeroWater will handle that.
@@4DTravelr I think the conclusion I'm coming to is that for coffee water, the Zero water filter is both unavoidable and sufficient.
Some other treatment first would make the ZeroWater filters last longer but it might not save much (if any) money given the cost of the other treatment.
@@4DTravelr I've actually tested this. It be fine for drinking and for nebulizers, oil diffusers, vaporizes, etc. Not sure about CPAC though. The filter media i zero filter messes up the distilled water and leaves things behind that prevent a plasma arc from forming. They can even pose a problem with LVDC electrolysis colloidal, especially with ruby red gold, where these particles can have unpredictable results.
I need distilled water for a cpap machine. We are not drinking it. Would I need the carbon filter? Also, if I am not drinking it, would I need to use citric acid to clean it? Any info you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
You won't need the carbon filter in the distiller, unless the water you distill has some kind of odor in it. As far as cleaning the distiller, yes you still need to clean it because the minerals from your water will build up on the inside. If the concentrations get high enough these minerals will vaporize and you will have them coming out the distilled water side.
Here is another good tip, which I did not include in this video but in a later one. use a timer with your distiller and have it shut off 30 minutes before all the water is gone. This will prevent heavy minerals in the water from vaporizing at the last 10 minutes of the process, as the distillers internal temperature skyrockets. I use Alexa with my distiller hooked up to one of those power on off devices. but an old fashion time works too. Also it will make cleaning the distiller much easier as you won't be baking the minerals into the bottom of the distiller.
@@AlchemyWizard Thank you so much! I appreciate the help!
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If only using this machine to make water for a CPAP machine should there be an issue?
For CPAP machine it will not matter if you leave the carbon filter in there. However you will have to change the carbon filter after about 300 gallons of distillation. When the carbon gets saturated it will start to dump the stuff back into the water it previously absorbed. The distilled water could develop a smell or taste if the carbon filter needs changing.
I used the carbon for making black powder.
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I've been using carbon filters for years in various water filtration units. just run water through it. Im pretty sure you could just rinse it in a strainer with running water as an alternative.
IMO, the carbon filter is so small in the end of the distiller that even if it did not contribute to the contamination of the final product water, it's fairly useless for removing anything.
I couldn't find info on this thanks.
Glad to help, thanks for dropping me a note.
I always thought that distilling water didn't remove chlorine and fluoride. Thanks for confirming that . I was also told RO removes fluoride. So now you've confused me again. Can you tell us the ppm for all water types you have please?
Thanks .
Most underwater sink filter systems use carbon filters yet they don't remove fluoride. So I'm totally confused how a little teabag of carbon can do what a twin system can't?
RO filters use a carbon filter which will remove chlorine. Fluoride is removed by the RO filter itself, as the Fluoride molecule is too large to pass through the RO filter.
The PPM formula is the same for all the colloidal:
• ppm = material used (in grams) x 10^6 / amount in mL.
• ex: 14ppm = 0.007g X 1000000
Now just a note on this general formula for PPM. It is a general formula. It by no means takes into account the size of the molecules. For example gold is larger molecule than silver. If you take into account the size of the molecule, you get very different PPM numbers but much more accurate. However the general PPM formula has become the de facto standard these days. Sadly it is only a guide of the material used in the process and not actual PPM numbers.
That small carbon filter in the end of the distiller does nothing. It is just a gimmick. I myself tried pouring fluid through these small tea-bag filters and it made no difference on the TDS meter. The under sink carbon filters like you find in 3 and five stage water filtering do remove that stuff.
A RO filter system is not a standard under the counter filter system. It must contain the RO filter in the final stage. This stage forces the water through a membrane that will only let a certain size particles pass through it. the size of the fluoride molecule cannot fit through the membrane, so the fluoride does not pass.
RO water will read 8ppm or lower on the TDS meter. Spring water will read about 30 to 60ppm. Well water reads 90 to 180ppm depending on your well water. I have no idea what city water measures at. perhaps someone can test that and let us know.
Distillation removes fluoride lol. As for chlorine many distillers remove it through both VOC vents and a post carbon filter pouch. Still distillation is not always the best for VOCs especially chloramines are stubborn, so you could run through a PUR carbon block pitcher or a ZeroWater pitcher after distillation to really get them out.
Great info, I agree with your take on after filtering., thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
@@AlchemyWizard I was considering a ro system, but think distilled is better. I visited a local water store with a massive ro system, but was surprised they still had a problem with some contaminates. Do you think the carbon filter in my samsung fridge is effective enough as a first step?
btw, I told the water store guy I was looking for glass jugs, and he said they were as hazardous as plastic, since they had forever chemicals in them. I'm skeptical. :)
@@tonyd4941 RO will give you 8 parts per million water. It's not distilled water and the microscope shows a considerable difference. Distilled is the most pure but it really depends what you are looking to use the water for. For things like breathing machines you need distilled water. For drinking either distilled water or RO will work but you should re-mineralize them for drinking. The carbon filter in the refrigerator good start to removing most of the big offenders from the water. Below are some links to look at:
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@@tonyd4941 If its modern glass then it should be fine. Glass is the safest way to store drinking water. Older glass jugs had lead and other not so nice chemicals in them but that was years ago. I've no idea what he means by "forever chemicals."
With that said if you can use glass great. If not then Class 5, PP, Polypropylene is probably the best kind of plastic.
I've got a video on the different kinds of plastic. th-cam.com/video/rzcC2YK3lCM/w-d-xo.html
Can I use rain water instead the vivohome don’t come with filters 😢
Sure, you can put rain water in the distiller.
@@AlchemyWizard thank you sir 🙏🏼 God bless you fm 🇯🇲
I use rain water when ever I get a good rain, I wait to give it time to clean the metal roof and just set a plastic dishpan under the down spout and then dump it into a plastic bucket, about three times will fill the 5 gallon bucket. I run two 1 gallon distillers and do 2-3 boils when I run them.
@@keithjohnson5190 I've measured rain water here at 5-ppm. And yea it can make a good clean water to dump into your distiller to take the last of that stuff out. You should get 0-ppm at the output, but I suppose it still could depend on what in your rain water to start with.
Thank you for this video, I was wondering why there was a carbon filter in my distiller. It also imparts a taste to the distilled water I don’t like so will be putting it in a filter before distilling.
My friend is a chemist and she also removes the carbon bag out of the output of distiller. It just messes with the experiments. Thanks for dropping me a note.
Thank you for this video. I have learned so much from you, thank you. I fortunately have access to an artesian spring that I use for making distilled water. However, it's high in minerals, and after watching one of your other videos I need to distill the water 2x to get it to 0ppm.
My water is high in minerals as well. You can put it through something like ZeroFilter first, but then you will have to buy filters as the ZeroFilter becomes clogged. And it clogs fast due to the high mineral content. Other thing you can do is get a RO (reverse osmosis) system for the mineral water and then put that water into the distiller. That is if you don't want to distiller it twice.
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I did not read the manual and drank one glass of the first batch. Did i poison myself? It tasted nasty. Also the distiller said it is "food grade" but even after i washed it there was grey stuff coming of the metal parts when i wiped it. All this stuff is made in China, not sure it is so "food grade".
Generally it takes one batch of distilled water in a new machine before it makes pure distilled water. I'm sure you will be fine drinking the one glass. I'd toss the rest. I certainly would not use this first batch for colloidal work. Make another batch. Use a TDS meter and measure the output and make sure its near 0-ppm. If the water you put in to distiller is high in minerals you may have to pre filter the water or distill the water a second time.
If the grey stuff was coming from inside the distiller body that could be normal. The water left behind in the distiller will be full of the impurities that was in the water you put in it. If grey stuff was coming out the output, then I don't know. See what happens with a second batch. Test it with TDS meter before drinking the second batch.
I'm looking to get a distilled machine. Im So confused about what one to get . And to complicated
basically all the distillers that look like the one featured in the video are the same. some add timers and electronics to them. None of them are perfect and if your water is heavily mineralized, like over 90ppm, you probably will have to distill the water twice to get it down to 0ppm. If you run your tap water through one of those pitcher filters first, then you will probably only have to distill the water once.
My working hypothesis is that the brisk boiling causes microscopic droplets of water to float out of the machine along with the steam. I have to distill twice to get acceptable results. I'm about to try to put the carbon inside of the distiller to trap water droplets before the get out, and allow only the steam. If only steam was coming out, we would never need any carbon at all. Any comment?
Sounds reasonable. These distillers are quick distillers, they are not the same as the glass laboratory distillers, which take much longer and produce far less distilled water. However the water coming out of them is extremely pure. let me know how your experiment works out.
@@AlchemyWizard Just received my TDS meter. Base line is tap water at 77ppm. Distilling twice with the lower unit connected to 100Vac and the resulting water reads 3ppm. I have another batch at 90Vac on its second pass. My next move is to add a charcoal filter inside of the boiler, before it even gets inside of the condenser coil. We'll see how it comes out.
@@pierrec1590 Keep us informed.
@@AlchemyWizard A minor milestone: Supplying the base of the distiller with 80Vac I distilled one gallon in one pass that took 9 hours, and the water read 2 ppm on the TDS scale. Furthermore, the water had no smell at all. This would tend to support my working hypothesis to the effect that brisk boiling produces tiny water droplets that get pushed out of the boiling vessel to contaminate the distilled water in the receiving container. I am now trying at 75Vac using the same Variac as a power source and feeding 120Vac to the top part.
@@pierrec1590.. update?
I don't use the charcoal filter, I just run the water through my Brita filter when I am done to make it taste better.
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Ive been passing water through a Berkey filter prior to distilling because that is what I have. Any comments on that?
Wow, I want one! Yes that is an excellent (and an expensive) filter system to use. Nice going there. It should be fine for using before your distillation process.
If you don't have the real Floride Berkeley filter and I'm 100% sure you don't just distill the water the Berkeley ain't doing nothing the FDA shut Berkeley from making real Floride filters
I use that too but I run it after I distill the water, not before.
Very helpful. I received this distiller as a gift to use in humidifier and CPAP. Do you know if it’s safe to breathe in water distilled this way with the carbon? I’ve been using store bought distilled and thought this would be cheaper and more convenient long term (plus more environmentally friendly)
The carbon will remove some Volatile organic compounds (VOCs) . I like using the carbon filter before the distillation, as the carbon filter at the output of the distiller will change the PH and add some carbon in the water. Also that small carbon filter becomes saturated fast and when that happens it just dumps the VOCs back into your water at twice the amount.
For a humidifier the VOCs should not present any problems, nor should the small amount of carbon that may be in the water effect those as well. I'm not sure about the CPAP.
What I would suggest, even though it may be an extra step, I would get one of those carbon filter pitchers. Remove the carbon bag from the output of the distiller. Fill the carbon filter pitcher thing with tap water. Then pour the filtered tap water from the pitcher into the distiller. Now you will have as clean distilled water you can get. Below is a link to the Zero Water Filter Pitcher. I am sure you have seen them.
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Never had a problem with mine, water tastes fresh and sweet every time.
one very important tip - use a timer and cut it short of boiling down to much.
which can afeect the taste and will make it easyer to clean and extend the life of the Disstiler.
water from the tap may be safe to drink but its not healthy, limescale is calcium and that can build up in the joints and the arterys and cause kidny stones just for starters.
so even if you are just useing a britta filter its better for you.
but when you can get a Disstiller plug it in at night with a timer wake up to 4 ltrs of fresh filtered water every day for years to come, sadly thats no going to be good enough for a family so then RO becomes your best option.
we are 85% water so its important.
I have the amazon alexa and the tp link devices. I plug one of the switch things. One is dedicated to my distiller. I just say "Alexa turn on the distiller for 3 hours 30 minutes. the timer stops it with about an inch of water left in the bottom. I agree the distilled water comes out much better if you stop the process before all the water boils away.
I did an article on re-mineralizing distilled water using sea salt. Check it out. While you can drink distilled and RO water, you should plug up the holes in waters polar nature.
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@@AlchemyWizard i prefer anolog its more dependable and gives me peace of mind but its a clever idea.
sea salt is ok but better with a dedecated organic mineral suppliment as the minerals are in cystaline form in salt.
but from the research i have done its not that important while it will break down the calcium deposits it leaves the other minerals alone and you want to get rid of that exess calcium anyway.
thanks for the feedback and happy drinking.
Yeay tell me about it i used your tip to boil for 10 minutes the charcoal filters and they all busted open just scrapped all my 4 filters lol😂😂😂😂😂😂 but i found a solution to these filters i use my keurig coffe machine carbon filters much better quality and most of people know that you have to soak these filters at least 15minutes and then rinced them well
Great job! Thanks for the Keurig tip. I will have to remember that.
not quite right , the chlorin is going through the destiller in the beginning then it will end , so cast away the first cup then it will be clean and you can mesure it with the meter .
Correct, if you have chlorinated water, it will pass through the distiller because it's a trapped gas. However if you put the chlorinated water through a charcoal filter first, then in the distiller, you can probably remove most of it. I don't have chlorinated water here, but my guess is if I did, I have to do what you are doing as well or take a sample at the start to make sure the chlorine is not making its way out of it.
Do you know What is better at removing the birth control hormones and estrogen from the tap water reverse osmosis or a water distiller I don’t know if you know how effective a water distiller would be at removing them
It is unbelievable that we in a world where the lifeblood fluid we need to survive is often contaminated with these things.
I really do not know the answer to this question. I went to google and started reading about it. I don't really want to say anything like I did with fluoride because again there seems to be various opinions and research on it. With estrogen and birth control hormones articles that I found they say it can be removed with distillation and RO filter and others say it cannot or only reduced. One articles states that carbon filter may remove 80%. One scientific paper I found shows that Reverse Osmosis removes estrogen from the water.
With RO filtration the deciding factor would be the size of the particle you want to remove. If the RO membrane has a smaller hole size than the hormone or estrogen particle it would not go through it. With distillation it would depend if the substance is stored in the water as a ionic substance or as a gas. Gas substances will pass through the distillation process and recombine when it cools. Distillers have a hard time removing VOC (volatile organic chemicals) and SOC (synthetic organic chemicals).
I will talk to my chemist on this and see if she can find out the size of these particles and their state when mixed with water. I will report back. It is an interesting question for sure.
Perhaps someone else who may be more in the know can share as well on this topic.
@@AlchemyWizard yeah it’s disgusting and is one of the main reasons the male testosterone leval isn’t the same as it was in the 1980s and below because it was double to triple back then because the water wasent as near contaminated with birth control as it is now and it would only get worse it’s the birth control and the micro plastics which leak in to the bottled water which have the xenoestrogens which act as estrogens what are the 2 main reasons behind the male testosterone being a lot less then before which is the main reason why I want to get a water distiller so I won’t be consuming the birth control and the estrogen in the plastic bottles I would realistically want the water distiller to Remove 90% or more of the birth control chemicals from the water I don’t know if you know how much estrogens the charcol filter bags they give would remove and would you recommend putting in 2 bags in the water distiller to remove more estrogens or no
@@pitch1691 I would instead get a zero pitcher water filter, put the tap water in to that. This will filter all the chemical junk out or at least reduce it. Then you can put that into the distiller to clean it up. The other more expensive way is to do a RO setup, then distill the water. That small bag of carbon they put in distillers today, does not work.
@@AlchemyWizard what zero water pitcher filter would you recommend are sure they would take out a fair amount of the birth control and estrogen
@@pitch1691 I have this one that I got in here for testing purposes. I do not know how much of the estrogen and hormones or birth control it removes, they do not say. It does remove chlorine and may remove fluoride. It does produce 0-ppm water as measured on the TDS meter. In the microscope it shows some VOC's about 4 to 6 ppm. The RO water shows a little lower in the microscope. The pitcher is a good alternative to RO water without the expense and installation cost.
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Excellent info! Thank you!
Your Welcome!
We have a small amount of flouride.
Is the fluoride in the water after distillation? Some filters like the Britta long life (elite) filter claim to remove fluoride. I have not tested it though. If it does you could put the water through the filter before you put it in the distiller to remove it beforehand.
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Now you gave me clarity. I'm using well water. So i don't need that carbon filter i guess. That's exactly what's happening to me. 1st distillation i had 0015 PPM. Second i had 0004 PPM. Third 0003 PPM. I'm removing that carbon filter tomorrow.
Check on line to find out what your well water VOC content may be. If its above safe levels then put the well water through a activate carbon filter before distillation, using one of those canister filters where you pour the water through it.
But yes, that carbon filter at the end of the distiller, even it if did remove VOC would not remove very much before it started putting it back into your water. Ditch that carbon filter.
@@AlchemyWizard , we have the same distiller. I already removed the carbon filter. Water produced still has 0002 PPM. What else can i do to make it zero by distilling alone?
@@commandernoodles2367 2ppm is okay. You can use that and it will be fine. If you did not want to use a pre-filter (like one of those pitcher filters), then your only other alternative is to distill the water again.
What is the PPM of the water you are starting with?
VOC will not come out of the water through distillation. If you got VOC in there then you will have to pre-filter the water through a pitcher drip filter with carbon in it.
There is also the possibility your meter is off a small bit.
I think you will be fine with 2ppm distilled water. Anything below 5 would produce perfect results.
@@AlchemyWizard , ironic because water that we buy which is purified only (not even RO) shows zero PPM. Well water that i distill has 146 PPM. Based on your explanation, distilled water doesn't necessarily mean pure water. Thank you for being informative.
@@commandernoodles2367 These distillers we have today are far from perfect. My well water is 150ppm as well, but I have a RO filter I put the water through first. Then it goes into the distiller. I'm sure if I tried to distill my well water directly I would have to do it twice as well.
Me trying to absorb this info from the "Colombo" water guy🤣
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Stands to reason as with any carbon refrigerator water filter they tell you to run a gallon of water thru it before using..
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seems to me that ro water distills faster than tap water.
yep, it takes my RO water to distill about 3.5 hours, if use tap water it's over 4
I'll fill mine with filtered water.
Yep, that will work.
Why does my water taste so bad after using my distiller.
You may have to distill it again. If your tap water is like 300ppm then one run through may not be enough. I would also suggest you do not cook the distiller empty. Leave about an inch of water in the bottom. On my distiller it takes 4 hours to do a gallon, so I stop it at 3.5 hours. that stuff at the bottom if it gets too hot can vaporize and contaminate your distilled water.
You can also use one of those filter-pitchers to pre-filter the water before distilling it to get rid of the harsh stuff that may be in there.
people do more research my understanding of distillaton is different that his opinion. as for charcole its not a dangerious thing er use charcole for some poisions / ro water is about as clean as water gets . my town uses it with brackish water but does add clorine and necessary minerals as for floride i grew up on floradated water my 2 i and 2 year younger cousins had well water im 70 with 85% of my teeth they had no teeth about 40 yrs old
Nothing wrong with passing RO or distilled water through a carbon filter as long as you do not need pristine water. For creating a plasma arc the arc will not form if you pass the distilled water through a carbon filter after. It all depends on what you're using your water for after it's distilled. For sure, a carbon filter for tap water is good to do before drinking. Refrigerator filters all have a carbon block.
A charcoal filter will not remove fluoride from water
From everything I have read and from conversations with my chemist about Fluoride is that only Reverse Osmosis can remove it completely. Some mechanical filters can reduce it but not remove it completely. Charcoal filter and even distilling will not remove fluoride as it is a gas trapped in the water. you distill it the gas is still trapped in the vapors, it just recombines at the output. Why charcoal removes chlorine and not fluoride, again from what I read, has to do with the molecule size of fluoride. it can pass through charcoal but it can't pass through the membrane in a RO Filter.
@@AlchemyWizard I've read that filling a container with water and leaving it over night. That the chlorine dispersed
@@questioneverything4952 I think most of it would but some may remain.
@@AlchemyWizard believe it or not my grandmother taught me that. And she was born in 1906. She would take the water and leave it out overnight and then she could water her African violets
@@AlchemyWizard --- It is also reported that boiling water for 30 minuets will evaporate the chlorine.
Why are you giving wrong information the distillation process dose get rid of fluoride and I’m pretty sure chlorine as well but from what I’ve heard it dose 100persent get rid of fluoride i was questioning all the people I’ve heard say it dose get rid of fluoride because of this video but you have to be wrong your the only person I’ve heard who said it dosent get rid of fluoride from distillation process So you should do your research on how it dose get rid of fluoride before spreading information and making people like me question myself
commercial distillers may remove fluoride, not the 100$ ones they sell for general purpose distilling.
@@AlchemyWizard how do you know that is there any proof you can give me to back up your state meant ,fluoride gets left behind in the distillation process because it has a different boiling point to water Your the only person I’ve heard tell me that so like I said if you can prove that
@@AlchemyWizard how do you know that is there any proof you can give me to back up your state meant ,fluoride gets left behind in the distillation process
@@pitch1691 I will discuss it with my chemist again and see if she can dig up some papers on removing fluoride.
It comes down to how the compound is stored in water. In water, fluoride can exist as a colorless gas or be dissolved in water. Any trapped gas will recombine when the vapor cools and still be present. Dissolved particles are removed by distillation.
@@AlchemyWizard yes because if you look on TH-cam and look at videos on what a water distiller can remove they all say fluoride and there talking about the distillation process I would think not the bags what comes with it if you look online to see what people say there mabye I don’t know because I’ve only seen people say it dose