Great question. I prefer the Stihl Rapid Super chain (It is full comp Stihl 33RS, 84 drive link chain in the video on all saws). For farm and ranch or consumer grade saws that run a shorter bar, a full comp chain is best. On bigger professional saws when running a 25" bar and longer is needed, a Stihl Rapid Super in a full skip tooth configuration is my go-to chain. I have a bench mouted chain grinder to sharpen square-ground chain, and I do slightly change the bevel and angle based on what wood type I will primarily be cutting (softwood, soft hardwoods, or hardwood). I do run some Carlton carbide tip chain if I am cutting really dirty wood from storm damage that may have been on the ground for a while. Thanks for watching!
That was a fabulous comparison. About as fair of a test as anyone could do. Those pro saws are impressive. Didn't realize there would be so much difference in how they perform vs the ranch saws.
They don't , it's only the construction for durability and lighter weight, the CC performance is relatively similar. Biggest difference is going to be how sharp the chain is and if the saw is properly tuned.
What a crock of shit. There is a night and day difference between a pro level saw and a box store saw. My Stihl 462 (70cc) saw will work circles around my 460 (60cc) husky at a fraction of the weight. The Stihl cuts like it has three times the power. I love my husky and it’s a great backup but apples to oranges. No different than a Husky xp lineup against a homeowner Stihl. 462 costs 1400 and the husky is 500$ at tractor supply. You mean to tell me I am paying all that extra money for nothing? I can put a 32 inch bar on my 462 and sink it in red oak and it will eat and hardly bog down. The 460 can’t even handle that 24 inch bar. Runs good with a 20inch though.
Good job I have the 460 but it’s not even broke in. Maybe 2-tanks of fuel I have a husky 55 that I bought in the 90’s that starts every time I go to get it and never had it apart! Runs like a champ! I need to get some time on the 460 and tune it we’ll just to see how it will perform.
Been running Husqvarna saws for about 8yrs now. My buddy runs Stihl. Honestly, both are great saws, but my Husqvarna saws start better in the cold with the primer. I prefer to cut firewood in the winter also. My other noticeable difference between the two is the Husqvarna saws will lug down and work, they have more torque. Whereas the Stihl is more reliant on keeping that RPM high for its cutting ability when they lug down they can't hold the load. Just do me one favor, don't ever bring a Poulan to help clear trees or cut firewood. Nothing more irritating than having a helper that spends half the time trying to get the saw started and the other half the time complaining cause they end up loading the trailer while I cut the rounds.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Lol...yes, there's always the guy who shows up to help with the dull chain and Poulan saw he hasn't started since he cut that one branch that fell in his yard 5 years ago. LOL! And you are correct, as I mentioned, the long stroke on the Husky will have more torque with a burried bar; the Stihl revs a couple thousand rpm higher with the shorter stroke, so it will cut faster as long one keeps the rpm's up...but that will usually require running a skip chain on bars over 25". And, yes, the primer is helpful in sub-zero temps, but where I live it is rarely cold enough to cause issues starting a saw without primer bulb. Thanks again for the input!
A sharp Pollan 40cc wild thing with an 18 inch bar and a (person) that knows how to use it is welcome anytime by me. 28years feeding 4 heaters in a family guy.
@@EddieLindsay681 even the home owner Husqvarna saws and a step above the Poulans. They all have their places. I run their farm & ranch line with great results. So far have 8yrs on my 445 cutting firewood.
I have a stihl and a husqvarna the stihl air filter plugs up so fast and it loses power because of it, I can't stand it, and plan on trading it on another husqvarna. It's clear you held the husqvarna back at one point lol
I love my 311. Great saw with a 24" (if you know how to cut wood, and keep a sharp chain). I use a cheapo Ryobi 16" 37cc for my limbing and small cuts (super lightweight, and a good inexpensive little saw for little projects). Of course, I upgraded that Ryobi to an Oregon bar and chain to make it work well. But I digress. I am not a brand specific kind of guy when it comes to saws. I have used Husqys, old Homelites, and a few others. A nearby neighbor of a property that my father and I share saved the day with his 36" bar Husqy that made short work of a diseased 100+ year old hardwood smack dab next to our cabin (much love to Oregon State Forest Service members). I choose this particular Stihl because I wanted to to go one model higher than my Father's 291 with a 24" bar. It is way too much fun to ask him if he needs a little more 'oomph' when he is sawing (while I am offering him to use my 311). Whatever saw you choose to take home, just remember the mantra of wise men everywhere. 'She is a fickle bitch. You have to learn just what she wants. Just what she needs, even if she will never articulate that fact to you. Use your Zen power, and figure out what she needs to be happy and grind hard. She will never tell you, so you had better figure that out for yourself. If you can unlock that mystery, she will stay by your side forever, and never let you down'.
If they have an adjustable oil screw then I do open up the oiler for longer bars, especially in harder or drier wood, where chain Temps may rise more. Many residential and farm grade saws do not an adjustable oiler though.
@@TheLowBudgetOutdoorsman Thanks for the fast reply, I just bought a 311 with a 25" bar and was watching a few videos on them and they do have a adjustable oiler screw on the bottom of the saw next to the sprocket. I'm very excited to use this saw, and thanks for the great video and advice, Much Appreciated
agreed man, a mate of mine asked to go help him get a few loads of wood, took my ms362 n he took his ms 291 i’m pretty sure, i looked around n he was pulling it back n forward, before ya know if, fucked the chain
On the newest 460 & 311, they both have side chains tightening, but the 460 has adjustable oil screw. And the 311 comes with 3/8 chain and the 460 has a .325. Also when you did the comparison cut, I can guarantee you that the 460 was NOT running full RPM! I could hear in the video it was loading up!! Sorry your test DID NOT IMPRESS me because that 460 was NOT RUNNING good! I don’t own either one but I do repair them.
Exactly! I own both and the 460 wasnt performing like it should! That wasn’t a fair performance test for the husky! The husky 460 455 Rancher personality never use the primer, funny to say but she starts on second pull 98% of the time with out priming in Canadian weather! verry smooth consistent idle chaisaw out my 9 Steal husky and Jonsereds that in own it feels good in your hands and balanced real nice the most easy reliable saw in its class! Perfect all rounder in my opinion not to big not to small just right and light weight! Love my Sthil saws too dont get me wrong!
Is that 311 stock I just bought mine and it doesn't seem to run that strong and I only have a 18in bar on it granted I'm still on the stock green chain but yours sounds like a screamer compared to mine
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I admit I don't know much about chainsaws, but I have heated my home with firewood for the past 51 years. I personally have had bad luck with Stihl and Husqvarna. They seem to be in the shop getting repaired more than in the woods cutting firewood. 2 and 1/2 years ago when covid hit I purchased an Echo saw. This is the first Echo brand I have ever owned, and this thing doesn't skip a beat. All I have done to it is sharpen the chain, put gas and oil in it and cut firewood. I was so impressed with the Echo chainsaw I bought me an Echo string trimmer. Again, the Echo brand string trimmer hasn't given me any trouble in the 2 years I've owned it. I sold both my Stihl chainsaws and string trimmer. I still have my Husky chainsaw as a backup, but I plan on replacing it with an Echo after winter. Like I said, I'm not a chainsaw mechanic but I cut about 15 ricks of wood per year off my own property to heat my home. Echo seems to be a more dependable saw for cutting firewood compared to Stihl or Husky. Just my personal experience.
Good video dude. Looking at saws now, have access to husqvarna and Stihl. But the shop near me works on Husqvarna only I believe. Both are great saws (ms311 & 460). Leaning more towards the husky because of the shop, but if the price is right, Stihl will be in my future.
Husqvarna last longer. And more solid unit. Will never go back to stihl since owning a Husqvarna. Now I have almost all there saws from the 120 to the 460 rancher
Quick hands, and nice save, @ 07:34, not so much @ 12:06! Obviously you’re good, and savvy and experienced in use of saws, and that one handed thang makes for good footage, but I’m less impressed. It doesn’t take much to go from ‘0 to tragedy!’ Now most people that are watching your videos, are bound to be experienced, but my concern is with those that are not, and then ‘tries out’ your style, and then something happens. It’s your channel, and your call, but at the end of the day, we all have to take responsibility and be accountable for what we do. Or at least that is how it used to be. Enjoyed the video and I gave it a like. I hope you take this comment well, as it was only meant that way. Thanks! Stay safe and healthy! 👍 ✌🏻 😊
Awesome video minus the sound. Next time would like to see an echo 590 timberwolf 59.8cc farm and ranch saw. Thanks! FWI your voice was very low but the saws blew the speakers off.
If you are using an Alaskan mill to rip or slab logs, a bigger saw would be much better option. I have done quite a bit of stabbing with an Alaskan mill, and use a Stihl MS660. That being said, if you just want to do a couple smaller logs in softer woods, then either of those would work. Between the two, the longer piston stroke of the Husqvarna 460, probably is a better choice for milling. If you have some nice bigger logs you want milled on site, it may be worth paying someone with a portable bandsaw mill to come mill them for you. Just my thoughts. Chainsaw milling is fun, but it is slow and is work. Make sure you wear a mask to keep you from breathing the exhaust fumes and dust from chainsaw.
Thanks. That answers my question. The trees I'm dealing with are a mix of pine and oak, some put 18-24" diameter. I would like to mill some of the nicer trees into planks or lumber for making furniture, etc. Mostly I've just turned the downed trees into firewood. In the next few years more trees are coming down, especially as we expand the foot print. Milling lumber isn't my first or primary activity. I like having the option though. I do have an Alaskan mill-type of device to help get flat and even thickness planks.Thanks
I like both saws. Either one you can’t go wrong. They still would get the Job done. But for the Value and money. Bang for yo buck you gotta go with the Echo 590. Or just a lil more cash go with the 620 pro version. 👍 good video.
Thanks. Echo makes some good saws! I just don't currently own one, I have in the past...and probably will again sometime...you can't have too many saws. Lol
@@TheLowBudgetOutdoorsman I’m the same with woodworking routers and drum gear. Can never have too many. I’ll be getting a Rancher 460 after using cheap saws for years . After I get a taste of a real chainsaw I’m sure I’ll move up the line and get a big Stihl. Too much power is a beautiful thing.
I own a Stihl MS310 I bought brand new over 20 years ago. She's tired and time to replace. I purchased a Husqvarna Rancher 450 last year as a backup saw and the wife now runs it when firewood cutting. I do like it though. I just need something with more power than the 450 to replace the old Stihl and am considering either of the saws you just reviewed. Only about $20 in price difference. This is a tough choice for me as both make great saws. What is your opinion on which to buy? Firewood for home use. I don't cut more than 10 cords a year. Sometimes it's already down, sometimes I have to fell trees. Pacific northwest so this is almost exclusively Alder and Fir that I cut.
If you plan on running a 24"/25" bar, I think the Husqvarna is a slightly better option. Its long stroke has more torque. If a 20" bar will be your normal use bar, the Stihl does cut faster, because the short stroke it can turn a couple thousand rpm faster. So when cutting with a Stihl keep the rpm/chain speed up, and with the 25" bar that is a little tricky. Sorry, that is not a definitive answer. I do like both saws. It can be a pain getting the saw off the bar if you get the bar pinched close to the saw body on the Husqvarna, because the outboard clutch setup. But if mostly cutting firewood, that won't happen often...if at all. Honestly, if you have a dealer in your area who you like doing buisness with, maybe just buy whichever one your favorite dealer sells. Thanks for watching, and commenting. Hope it helped.
I Use stihl full chisel round ground and if you don’t have the budget for that Oregon chains are really hard to beat for the price plus Oregon chains file a touch easier it seems. I use both and they are great.
Turn up your volume and enjoy.. Thanks ... currently looking at both saws. My 21 and 18 year old Stihl still running good but too many big hickory and red oak down. Would be cruel to put them to work on 20-26 inch trees.
I have too! Not generally in the farm and ranch segmemt though. A ported 572xp with advanced timing and properly matched sprocket and square ground skip chain. Is one of the quickest saws I ever run! But stock that turns under 10k rpm
There's more to a chainsaw than cutting performance. The peripheral systems like the bar oiler, chain brake, and air filtration are also important, and I think Stihl has Husqvarna beat in these areas, at least at the price level being tested here. The Husky's cut well and cold start easily, but Stihl's are better designed in the peripheral areas. The older the saws are, the better the Stihl will perform relative to the Husky.
Thanks again for the video, it really helped me out in my decision. Quick question for you, what are your thoughts on what's going on in the world concerning current world events Thanks
Well, that is definitely a loaded question thay would require a very lengthy response...but in summary the old saying, "Everything rises and falls on leadership", is almost always accurate. To address my thoughts on each geo-political, economic, or federal regulatory area would take too long...but as an Afghanistan veteran I will say, it did not need to end this way over there!
Thanks for watching! It's a 25" (84 drive links) bar on all saws in the video. The 460 rancher and the MS311 probably pull and oil a chain on a 20" bar best, but if you need the longer bar they are sufficiently powered to do what you need to do...just not nearly as fast as saws that cost over twice what they do. Lol.
That old Homelite Super XL under the table still runs strong! Unfortunately the newer ones are not made in USA anymore, but the old ones were great...but heavy. Lol
No doubt they are both great saws, but the stihl ms311 was 7 and a half seconds quicker than the husky, there's no primer bulb to split on you and the bar and chain looks much easier to remove. The ms311 is a much better option in my opinion.
Husqvarna lost a little time while he was adjusting his face shield, he didn't have a load on the saw and it was just throwing saw dust instead of shavings during that time. Stihl would have still won the race though just not by as big of a margin.
455 has a 300 hour compliance rated engine like a pro saw... the Stihl does not... speaks to the quality and rings/compression lasting over time... 455 is the lighter and more nimble feeling saw as well.. The echo timber wolf is also a great option...
Save you time and trouble. The trouble part both saws are expensive and Husqvarna speaking through experience is a nightmare. I bought a 460 Rancher about seven years ago and used it for about a total of maybe hour between repairs. Paid retail over $500 and the minute the warranty ran out another $500 times two in repairs not counting trips to the repair shop. To this day have worn out three cheap wal-mart specials and no repairs to be done. The Huskie sits collecting dust. I would be embarassed to even give it to someone.
@@Eric19781 I have rebuilt several saws, and the farm and ranch grade saws have been far more aggravating to rebuild. The pro saws, in my experience are much easier to tear down and rebuild. A top end replacement on that Stihl 660 takes 30-45 minutes, but the same job on a MS290, 310, 390 (those saws are the same with different top end for more displacement) takes a few hours. Thanks again for watching.
Thanks for watching! Might be a subjective statement...lol...but I do find them a little easier to work on, which is one reason I prefer them. There are lots of great saws on the market, and if I had a ton of money, I'd have one of each. Lol. But if I could only use one saw it would probably be a Stihl 462 with a slight mods, I love that saw! Light enough to climb with comfortably, yet powerful enough to fell just about anything we have in the Eastern US.
It is heavy, as far as power to weight goes. A 462 with light weight bar is about the same weight and has a lot more power. The 311 is about the same weight though as the saws it is marketed against (Husky 460 rancher, Echo timberwolf 590 etc)
Ur weak to say its heavy.. I hold my 311 up all day.. limbing, falling, and bucking. Juniper trees in central Oregon. Cutting red fir, pine, and soft woods is easy to cut. Easy...
I have definitely pinched my bar more than once. I keep a second saw. I never thought about an extra bar and chain. Do it enough, and it happens. Or think you can get away with something and most times you do, but then one time you can't.
Yeah, I probably should've let it run a little longer. I set it down and put ear protection on in that order to give it a little time to warm up...in those temps it would take around 20-30 seconds to be warmed up. I have rebuilt several of my saws over the years, and none of them had a scored piston on that muffler/clutch side that would indicate I ran them too hard prior to warm up. And I usually let them cool down properly before turning them off, but was just trying to get on with the video. Thanks for the comment.
@@TheLowBudgetOutdoorsman Yeah, I get it. Sometimes you don't pay attention to that stuff when you are thinking about other things. I worked fire for years and repaired multiple saws that were seized because someone jumped out of a truck, turned a saw over, and immediately went to work. Most of the time, it was just a matter or getting it unstuck, removing the piston ring, and lightly removing burs from the piston wall, but a few were permanently damaged.
The Husqvarna 460 Rancher and the Stihl MS 311 are directly marketed against each other ...that's why I did the comparison. Clearly I am aware of the power (rpm, torque, stroke, etc. differences), but they are at, or near, the top in displacement, power, and price point of the mid-level "farm and ranch" grade saws produced by those respective manufacturers. The pro saws I ran were demonstrating the difference in a professional grade saw and a farm grade (the Stihl 462 weighs about the same as those Husky and MS311). So you may want to ask your question to Husqvarna and Stihl ...lol
What brand and what kind of chainsaw chain do you use on the stihl chainsaw?
Great question. I prefer the Stihl Rapid Super chain (It is full comp Stihl 33RS, 84 drive link chain in the video on all saws). For farm and ranch or consumer grade saws that run a shorter bar, a full comp chain is best. On bigger professional saws when running a 25" bar and longer is needed, a Stihl Rapid Super in a full skip tooth configuration is my go-to chain. I have a bench mouted chain grinder to sharpen square-ground chain, and I do slightly change the bevel and angle based on what wood type I will primarily be cutting (softwood, soft hardwoods, or hardwood). I do run some Carlton carbide tip chain if I am cutting really dirty wood from storm damage that may have been on the ground for a while. Thanks for watching!
For firewood cutting you cannot beat a skip tooth chain
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Never thought of a backup saw. Now considering a 311
Husqvarna and stihl both make great saws. Just go with the one that feels best in your hands. Personally, I like the feel of husqvarna
Just bought 311 5 hrs ago made two cuts then it got dark. I hope it holds up. Have 031, ms 251, mcullock limber and 021.
That was a fabulous comparison. About as fair of a test as anyone could do. Those pro saws are impressive. Didn't realize there would be so much difference in how they perform vs the ranch saws.
Thanks. The pro saws are a huge difference.
They don't , it's only the construction for durability and lighter weight, the CC performance is relatively similar. Biggest difference is going to be how sharp the chain is and if the saw is properly tuned.
What a crock of shit. There is a night and day difference between a pro level saw and a box store saw. My Stihl 462 (70cc) saw will work circles around my 460 (60cc) husky at a fraction of the weight. The Stihl cuts like it has three times the power. I love my husky and it’s a great backup but apples to oranges. No different than a Husky xp lineup against a homeowner Stihl. 462 costs 1400 and the husky is 500$ at tractor supply. You mean to tell me I am paying all that extra money for nothing? I can put a 32 inch bar on my 462 and sink it in red oak and it will eat and hardly bog down. The 460 can’t even handle that 24 inch bar. Runs good with a 20inch though.
Great video, I actually have a husqvarna rancher and a Stihl and I never noticed the difference thanks
Good job
I have the 460 but it’s not even broke in. Maybe 2-tanks of fuel I have a husky 55 that I bought in the 90’s that starts every time I go to get it and never had it apart! Runs like a champ!
I need to get some time on the 460 and tune it we’ll just to see how it will perform.
Picked up an 271 Friday. Cut down massive tree. Insanely awesome. Now I wonder if I should pick up a 311 to set up for milling? Looks like a beast!
I guess it depends what, and how much, milling you are doing. I think it may be on the small side for doing a lot of milling
I ain’t never had a stock shihl saw run like that. That saw has had a little love in the porting department.
Been running Husqvarna saws for about 8yrs now. My buddy runs Stihl. Honestly, both are great saws, but my Husqvarna saws start better in the cold with the primer. I prefer to cut firewood in the winter also. My other noticeable difference between the two is the Husqvarna saws will lug down and work, they have more torque. Whereas the Stihl is more reliant on keeping that RPM high for its cutting ability when they lug down they can't hold the load. Just do me one favor, don't ever bring a Poulan to help clear trees or cut firewood. Nothing more irritating than having a helper that spends half the time trying to get the saw started and the other half the time complaining cause they end up loading the trailer while I cut the rounds.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Lol...yes, there's always the guy who shows up to help with the dull chain and Poulan saw he hasn't started since he cut that one branch that fell in his yard 5 years ago. LOL! And you are correct, as I mentioned, the long stroke on the Husky will have more torque with a burried bar; the Stihl revs a couple thousand rpm higher with the shorter stroke, so it will cut faster as long one keeps the rpm's up...but that will usually require running a skip chain on bars over 25". And, yes, the primer is helpful in sub-zero temps, but where I live it is rarely cold enough to cause issues starting a saw without primer bulb. Thanks again for the input!
A sharp Pollan 40cc wild thing with an 18 inch bar and a (person) that knows how to use it is welcome anytime by me. 28years feeding 4 heaters in a family guy.
You do know Husqvarna makes Poulan, but I do agree they are junk just like the non professional Husqvarnas.
@@EddieLindsay681 even the home owner Husqvarna saws and a step above the Poulans. They all have their places. I run their farm & ranch line with great results. So far have 8yrs on my 445 cutting firewood.
Adjust ur high side in 1/8 of a turn.. ul notice a huge difference
How did plastic clamshell make pro grade?
I have both a Stihl and a Husq Rancher. Both have been good saws. If you forced me to choose between the two I would keep my Husq Rancher.
Those pro saws are ridiculous!! Thanks for the great tips and honest comparison of two sweet saws.
I have a stihl and a husqvarna the stihl air filter plugs up so fast and it loses power because of it, I can't stand it, and plan on trading it on another husqvarna. It's clear you held the husqvarna back at one point lol
I love my 311. Great saw with a 24" (if you know how to cut wood, and keep a sharp chain). I use a cheapo Ryobi 16" 37cc for my limbing and small cuts (super lightweight, and a good inexpensive little saw for little projects). Of course, I upgraded that Ryobi to an Oregon bar and chain to make it work well. But I digress. I am not a brand specific kind of guy when it comes to saws. I have used Husqys, old Homelites, and a few others. A nearby neighbor of a property that my father and I share saved the day with his 36" bar Husqy that made short work of a diseased 100+ year old hardwood smack dab next to our cabin (much love to Oregon State Forest Service members).
I choose this particular Stihl because I wanted to to go one model higher than my Father's 291 with a 24" bar. It is way too much fun to ask him if he needs a little more 'oomph' when he is sawing (while I am offering him to use my 311).
Whatever saw you choose to take home, just remember the mantra of wise men everywhere.
'She is a fickle bitch. You have to learn just what she wants. Just what she needs, even if she will never articulate that fact to you. Use your Zen power, and figure out what she needs to be happy and grind hard. She will never tell you, so you had better figure that out for yourself. If you can unlock that mystery, she will stay by your side forever, and never let you down'.
I got a 69 dollar reconditioned Ryobi I put an 18 inch bar on it that little saw is a beast
when using the 25" bar and chain on the stihl did you turn up the oiler at all
If they have an adjustable oil screw then I do open up the oiler for longer bars, especially in harder or drier wood, where chain Temps may rise more. Many residential and farm grade saws do not an adjustable oiler though.
@@TheLowBudgetOutdoorsman Thanks for the fast reply, I just bought a 311 with a 25" bar and was watching a few videos on them and they do have a adjustable oiler screw on the bottom of the saw next to the sprocket. I'm very excited to use this saw, and thanks for the great video and advice, Much Appreciated
Very elaborate great video for someone who is just learning about saws. Great video.
Good to see a guy who knows how to let the machine do the work. Too many folks work their chainsaws like they were handsaws.
agreed man, a mate of mine asked to go help him get a few loads of wood, took my ms362 n he took his ms 291 i’m pretty sure, i looked around n he was pulling it back n forward, before ya know if, fucked the chain
On the newest 460 & 311, they both have side chains tightening, but the 460 has adjustable oil screw. And the 311 comes with 3/8 chain and the 460 has a .325. Also when you did the comparison cut, I can guarantee you that the 460 was NOT running full RPM! I could hear in the video it was loading up!! Sorry your test DID NOT IMPRESS me because that 460 was NOT RUNNING good! I don’t own either one but I do repair them.
Exactly! I own both and the 460 wasnt performing like it should! That wasn’t a fair performance test for the husky! The husky 460 455 Rancher personality never use the primer, funny to say but she starts on second pull 98% of the time with out priming in Canadian weather! verry smooth consistent idle chaisaw out my 9 Steal husky and Jonsereds that in own it feels good in your hands and balanced real nice the most easy reliable saw in its class! Perfect all rounder in my opinion not to big not to small just right and light weight! Love my Sthil saws too dont get me wrong!
460 comes with a 24” 3/8 chain and bar for 2023
i have a 460xp...3/8 x .050 chain...not .325
Exactly.
One hand slowmo on the husky? Not a fair test?
Is that 311 stock I just bought mine and it doesn't seem to run that strong and I only have a 18in bar on it granted I'm still on the stock green chain but yours sounds like a screamer compared to mine
It is stock. But chain will make a huge difference. I was by a metal building so it sounded louder than normal.
Not even a close comparison as on the first cut you laid back on the Husky but kept even pressure on the Stihl
I noticed that as well 😂😂
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That really helps me understand the differences.! I appreciate it, thanks 🙏🏻.
You're welcome
I admit I don't know much about chainsaws, but I have heated my home with firewood for the past 51 years. I personally have had bad luck with Stihl and Husqvarna. They seem to be in the shop getting repaired more than in the woods cutting firewood. 2 and 1/2 years ago when covid hit I purchased an Echo saw. This is the first Echo brand I have ever owned, and this thing doesn't skip a beat. All I have done to it is sharpen the chain, put gas and oil in it and cut firewood. I was so impressed with the Echo chainsaw I bought me an Echo string trimmer. Again, the Echo brand string trimmer hasn't given me any trouble in the 2 years I've owned it. I sold both my Stihl chainsaws and string trimmer. I still have my Husky chainsaw as a backup, but I plan on replacing it with an Echo after winter. Like I said, I'm not a chainsaw mechanic but I cut about 15 ricks of wood per year off my own property to heat my home. Echo seems to be a more dependable saw for cutting firewood compared to Stihl or Husky. Just my personal experience.
I have a stihl ms441 and a ms180. Both are fantastic.
Good video dude. Looking at saws now, have access to husqvarna and Stihl. But the shop near me works on Husqvarna only I believe. Both are great saws (ms311 & 460). Leaning more towards the husky because of the shop, but if the price is right, Stihl will be in my future.
Husqvarna last longer. And more solid unit. Will never go back to stihl since owning a Husqvarna. Now I have almost all there saws from the 120 to the 460 rancher
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: )Hi Mike, when you say Husqvarna last longer are you referring to parts?
Thanks
Quick hands, and nice save, @ 07:34, not so much @ 12:06! Obviously you’re good, and savvy and experienced in use of saws, and that one handed thang makes for good footage, but I’m less impressed. It doesn’t take much to go from ‘0 to tragedy!’ Now most people that are watching your videos, are bound to be experienced, but my concern is with those that are not, and then ‘tries out’ your style, and then something happens. It’s your channel, and your call, but at the end of the day, we all have to take responsibility and be accountable for what we do. Or at least that is how it used to be. Enjoyed the video and I gave it a like. I hope you take this comment well, as it was only meant that way. Thanks! Stay safe and healthy! 👍 ✌🏻 😊
Thanks for the comment.
Awesome video minus the sound.
Next time would like to see an echo 590 timberwolf 59.8cc farm and ranch saw. Thanks!
FWI your voice was very low but the saws blew the speakers off.
Yeah, sorry about the sound. It did not equalize properly in edit, and I did not catch it. Sorry.
It's all relative. Swap chains and the Husky would probably be quicker. It seemed you pushed the Stihl a lot harder, especially at the start.
I ordered myself MS311 should be here tomorrow..
How would you compare these two for making planks, ripping a log lengthwise?
If you are using an Alaskan mill to rip or slab logs, a bigger saw would be much better option. I have done quite a bit of stabbing with an Alaskan mill, and use a Stihl MS660. That being said, if you just want to do a couple smaller logs in softer woods, then either of those would work. Between the two, the longer piston stroke of the Husqvarna 460, probably is a better choice for milling. If you have some nice bigger logs you want milled on site, it may be worth paying someone with a portable bandsaw mill to come mill them for you. Just my thoughts. Chainsaw milling is fun, but it is slow and is work. Make sure you wear a mask to keep you from breathing the exhaust fumes and dust from chainsaw.
Thanks. That answers my question. The trees I'm dealing with are a mix of pine and oak, some put 18-24" diameter. I would like to mill some of the nicer trees into planks or lumber for making furniture, etc. Mostly I've just turned the downed trees into firewood.
In the next few years more trees are coming down, especially as we expand the foot print. Milling lumber isn't my first or primary activity. I like having the option though. I do have an Alaskan mill-type of device to help get flat and even thickness planks.Thanks
Great video. Subbed. Keep the informative and helpful content coming!
Thanks!
I've ran them all.Echo is the only one that stays running without having to tune it every week.
I've run Ms311 for years and never had a problem.
Turn ur volume up
Amigos no hay diferencias entre la 311 y la 460 , solo que el amigo le sacó rpm a la 460 y además tiene la cadena si filo
I like both saws. Either one you can’t go wrong. They still would get the Job done. But for the Value and money. Bang for yo buck you gotta go with the Echo 590. Or just a lil more cash go with the 620 pro version. 👍 good video.
Thanks. Echo makes some good saws! I just don't currently own one, I have in the past...and probably will again sometime...you can't have too many saws. Lol
@@TheLowBudgetOutdoorsman yup true that 👍
@@TheLowBudgetOutdoorsman I’m the same with woodworking routers and drum gear. Can never have too many. I’ll be getting a Rancher 460 after using cheap saws for years . After I get a taste of a real chainsaw I’m sure I’ll move up the line and get a big Stihl. Too much power is a beautiful thing.
I own a Stihl MS310 I bought brand new over 20 years ago. She's tired and time to replace. I purchased a Husqvarna Rancher 450 last year as a backup saw and the wife now runs it when firewood cutting. I do like it though. I just need something with more power than the 450 to replace the old Stihl and am considering either of the saws you just reviewed. Only about $20 in price difference. This is a tough choice for me as both make great saws. What is your opinion on which to buy? Firewood for home use. I don't cut more than 10 cords a year. Sometimes it's already down, sometimes I have to fell trees. Pacific northwest so this is almost exclusively Alder and Fir that I cut.
If you plan on running a 24"/25" bar, I think the Husqvarna is a slightly better option. Its long stroke has more torque. If a 20" bar will be your normal use bar, the Stihl does cut faster, because the short stroke it can turn a couple thousand rpm faster. So when cutting with a Stihl keep the rpm/chain speed up, and with the 25" bar that is a little tricky. Sorry, that is not a definitive answer. I do like both saws. It can be a pain getting the saw off the bar if you get the bar pinched close to the saw body on the Husqvarna, because the outboard clutch setup. But if mostly cutting firewood, that won't happen often...if at all. Honestly, if you have a dealer in your area who you like doing buisness with, maybe just buy whichever one your favorite dealer sells. Thanks for watching, and commenting. Hope it helped.
Buy a pro saw, don't mess with home owners saws
I've never heard of flipping the bar. Thanks for that tip!
You're welcome!
I do it all the time. It helps the give the bar equal wear
Thank you for the comparison video my Friend, Appreciated
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
If you pinch your bar drive a wedge in the top of the cut and itll free it up.
I Use stihl full chisel round ground and if you don’t have the budget for that Oregon chains are really hard to beat for the price plus Oregon chains file a touch easier it seems. I use both and they are great.
Awesome video Food for thought
stihl doing 4.4 bhp compared to the husqvarna doing 3.62 bhp, the stihl farm boss series are just better power wise against the rancher saws.
Unfortunately, I can't hear a word you're saying in this video. Hope you can fix that.
Sorry about that
Put some headphones on; problem solved. Not hard.
Great job by a pro! Loved those saws... awesome.
Thanks for the comment!
Turn up your volume and enjoy.. Thanks ... currently looking at both saws. My 21 and 18 year old Stihl still running good but too many big hickory and red oak down. Would be cruel to put them to work on 20-26 inch trees.
Sorry about the sound
Great video!👍🏾👍🏾
Super informative!!
Thank you, I'm glad it was helpful!
I'm a Stihl guy all the way. But I've seen some huskys that are high rev and cut quick .
I have too! Not generally in the farm and ranch segmemt though. A ported 572xp with advanced timing and properly matched sprocket and square ground skip chain. Is one of the quickest saws I ever run! But stock that turns under 10k rpm
@@TheLowBudgetOutdoorsman Ones I've seen are older huskys not familiar with new ones.
The best comparison would be the Stihl MS391 vs Husqvarna 460
There's more to a chainsaw than cutting performance. The peripheral systems like the bar oiler, chain brake, and air filtration are also important, and I think Stihl has Husqvarna beat in these areas, at least at the price level being tested here. The Husky's cut well and cold start easily, but Stihl's are better designed in the peripheral areas. The older the saws are, the better the Stihl will perform relative to the Husky.
Thanks for the video, appreciate your experience an opinion
You're welcome.
Thanks again for the video, it really helped me out in my decision. Quick question for you, what are your thoughts on what's going on in the world concerning current world events
Thanks
Well, that is definitely a loaded question thay would require a very lengthy response...but in summary the old saying, "Everything rises and falls on leadership", is almost always accurate. To address my thoughts on each geo-political, economic, or federal regulatory area would take too long...but as an Afghanistan veteran I will say, it did not need to end this way over there!
@@TheLowBudgetOutdoorsman Thank you, please go to brand new tube search latest videos for more information it's important. Wishing you a Great day.
@@TheLowBudgetOutdoorsman I wrote you a long response with a lot more information which was removed.
@@wd4313 yeah, the powers that be remove lots of stuff these days...
@@TheLowBudgetOutdoorsman Yes Sir and it has to stop. The mainstream media is the biggest problem.
Amazing review! Thank you!
Thanks for watching and the comment...glad you found it beneficial!
Love the video. What length bar do you have on the 311?
Thanks for watching! It's a 25" (84 drive links) bar on all saws in the video. The 460 rancher and the MS311 probably pull and oil a chain on a 20" bar best, but if you need the longer bar they are sufficiently powered to do what you need to do...just not nearly as fast as saws that cost over twice what they do. Lol.
I like the 311 but I wouldn’t mind the husky either.
Both are good saws!
Very nice. Good Info!
Thanks!
Works great so far
Hearing a good saw run well gives me a semi.
i still use homelite usa running strong
That old Homelite Super XL under the table still runs strong! Unfortunately the newer ones are not made in USA anymore, but the old ones were great...but heavy. Lol
@@TheLowBudgetOutdoorsman thats wat i run igot 3 super xl and one husky 440 all good
No doubt they are both great saws, but the stihl ms311 was 7 and a half seconds quicker than the husky, there's no primer bulb to split on you and the bar and chain looks much easier to remove. The ms311 is a much better option in my opinion.
Husqvarna lost a little time while he was adjusting his face shield, he didn't have a load on the saw and it was just throwing saw dust instead of shavings during that time. Stihl would have still won the race though just not by as big of a margin.
That Stihl is sharp!
I have 2 20 year old 455 ranchers they are great saws
That totally satisfied!
455 has a 300 hour compliance rated engine like a pro saw...
the Stihl does not...
speaks to the quality and rings/compression lasting over time...
455 is the lighter and more nimble feeling saw as well..
The echo timber wolf is also a great option...
Save you time and trouble. The trouble part both saws are expensive and Husqvarna speaking through experience is a nightmare. I bought a 460 Rancher about seven years ago and used it for about a total of maybe hour between repairs. Paid retail over $500 and the minute the warranty ran out another $500 times two in repairs not counting trips to the repair shop. To this day have worn out three cheap wal-mart specials and no repairs to be done. The Huskie sits collecting dust. I would be embarassed to even give it to someone.
Thank you
That Stihl is a heavier saw and uou weren't pushing on the husky at all..
Great video. Thanks for the tip of flipping the bar!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching and commenting.
Great video
Your a natural
Thank you!
Great video
Thank you!
Might be a good video if I could hear what he is talking about
The 455 rancher has more cheap aftermarket parts I got all kinds of parts of ebay my ms 311 only has used parts no cheap parts
Never seen a 460 run that bad.. wth did you do to it lol.
Echo CS590 60cc, Uber reliable and best bang for the buck.. I used to run huskys
I’m convinced that Stihl is a much better and faster saw. Have two now I will retire or sell my Chuckavarna
Dolmars n kitas are best I own em all
I wouldn’t know anything about these chainsaws when I need to cut a tree like that I do it with my bare hands.
The sledgehammer is for when the Husqvarna quits working..😀
You may want to do your research on revving your saw out like that before warming them up it can cause catastrophic failure
Thanks for watching!
@@TheLowBudgetOutdoorsman I Was trying to find someone rebuilding an MS 311 saw your video and decided to watch
@@Eric19781 I have rebuilt several saws, and the farm and ranch grade saws have been far more aggravating to rebuild. The pro saws, in my experience are much easier to tear down and rebuild. A top end replacement on that Stihl 660 takes 30-45 minutes, but the same job on a MS290, 310, 390 (those saws are the same with different top end for more displacement) takes a few hours. Thanks again for watching.
Good ole’ painting table haha, I relate
Lol. Yep
I much prefer my ms311 over the Husq.
I have a 310 and run full chisel love it.
Volume too low to hear.
stihl the best!!!
Thanks for watching! Might be a subjective statement...lol...but I do find them a little easier to work on, which is one reason I prefer them. There are lots of great saws on the market, and if I had a ton of money, I'd have one of each. Lol. But if I could only use one saw it would probably be a Stihl 462 with a slight mods, I love that saw! Light enough to climb with comfortably, yet powerful enough to fell just about anything we have in the Eastern US.
Stihl 💩 husqvarna the beast!!!
did dude ever survive those angry squirrels
I won't use nothing but a Poulan 40cc juggernaut
That purple wild thing is always the saw to break out when amongst saw guys. Lol
Good vid, deff need to pick up a mic!
Listening on my phone, volume is full loud... too bad he doesn't have a lapel mike..
Might be a good video but if I can't hear it,im not watching
Stihl is hard to start, i'm going dolmar
Also your sound was PPP or terrible
Bad edit...didn't normalize properly. My bad. Sorry
Stihl the best! 👌😘
Dolmars are best no comparison then husky then Stihl I have em all
The MS311 is a heavy saw, but has the same power as a MS261. I own a 311 and it cuts good just heavy.
It is heavy, as far as power to weight goes. A 462 with light weight bar is about the same weight and has a lot more power. The 311 is about the same weight though as the saws it is marketed against (Husky 460 rancher, Echo timberwolf 590 etc)
Ur weak to say its heavy.. I hold my 311 up all day.. limbing, falling, and bucking. Juniper trees in central Oregon. Cutting red fir, pine, and soft woods is easy to cut. Easy...
I’ve never ever got my bar pinched, I know how to fell correctly 😊 😇
Pinching usually occurs when bucking downed trees, or logs under tension.
Obviously you haven't cut much wood
I have definitely pinched my bar more than once. I keep a second saw. I never thought about an extra bar and chain. Do it enough, and it happens. Or think you can get away with something and most times you do, but then one time you can't.
Хускварна лучше 100% в -40 лучше заводиться! Привет с Якутии!
11:52 and thats how you ruin a saw. Gotta give it time to warm up man or you risk damaging the piston and cylinder
Yeah, I probably should've let it run a little longer. I set it down and put ear protection on in that order to give it a little time to warm up...in those temps it would take around 20-30 seconds to be warmed up. I have rebuilt several of my saws over the years, and none of them had a scored piston on that muffler/clutch side that would indicate I ran them too hard prior to warm up. And I usually let them cool down properly before turning them off, but was just trying to get on with the video. Thanks for the comment.
@@TheLowBudgetOutdoorsman Yeah, I get it. Sometimes you don't pay attention to that stuff when you are thinking about other things. I worked fire for years and repaired multiple saws that were seized because someone jumped out of a truck, turned a saw over, and immediately went to work. Most of the time, it was just a matter or getting it unstuck, removing the piston ring, and lightly removing burs from the piston wall, but a few were permanently damaged.
My friend just sold his 311 and I think thats the weight.
Stihl 311, Husqvarna 460 rancher, and Echo 590 are all within a couple ounces of total weight in wood, with stock 84dl bars and chain.
That's not a match try the Stihl 462 and the husqvana 460
Sharpen those chains and make sure you use the same chain on each saw to compare. My 450 rancher cuts faster than both those.
Chains were sharp off the grinder
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It doesn't hav4 php
2.7 kW vs 3.1 kW?wtf man
The Husqvarna 460 Rancher and the Stihl MS 311 are directly marketed against each other ...that's why I did the comparison. Clearly I am aware of the power (rpm, torque, stroke, etc. differences), but they are at, or near, the top in displacement, power, and price point of the mid-level "farm and ranch" grade saws produced by those respective manufacturers. The pro saws I ran were demonstrating the difference in a professional grade saw and a farm grade (the Stihl 462 weighs about the same as those Husky and MS311). So you may want to ask your question to Husqvarna and Stihl ...lol