Worth an EXTRA $1,600? | 2021 Yamaha MT09 vs MT09sp
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Yamaha did a giant overhaul on the MT09 for the 2021 model year and with the SP model we are getting into really amazing bike territory. In this video we try to figure out, if you are picking up a 2021 Yamaha MT09 should you spend the extra $1,600 and get the SP model.
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Appreciate this. At this price point, it's quite the value if you can afford to grab the SP it seems. Helps a lot. I'm in research mode atm and this answered a big question for me. Thank you!
Yamaha did great with the MT series. Very respectable bikes
Short answer will always be yes. If a manufacturer has a up model you are going to save big on components by virtue of scale of production
SP is worth it features wise. But imo the base model looks better. I just like the colors more
thank you!
If you take it to the tract and need maximum stability while racing in streets, then sp is worth it, but I am a regular rider, I had 2018mt09 sp and it was nice yes, but standard is good enough now anyways
Base colors are ugly to me
OC: I have the SP. No question, it is worth every penny over the base model.
Edit : Also, the electronics are amazing for wet/rainy track days. Slide control absolutely slaps
Hows the turn radius? The stops are quite short. Any issues for U-Turns?
Can’t wait to pick one of these up in a few years
OC: Well since I don’t get free gear… I would get the MT-09 and spend the 1600 on gear or training.
I rode the non sp version and it handles quite amazingly. Keeps a line and leans right over no problem. No wobbles or anything
is it ok bike for a beginner?
@@tazzicek Nooo lol, definitely not. I’d suggest something less aggressive/fast and cheaper like an MT-07. MT-09 is a good second or third bike depending on your goals and experience.
@@tazzicek Define beginner? First bike?
@@tazzicek’ve been riding 2 weeks and got the ‘23 base. I think it’s perfect
OC: Definitely would go straight for the SP. For commuting on the highway everyday Cruise Control is a Godsend. Plus if it'll cost more than $1600 to upgrade a standard MT09 to the SP level, you'd have to be crazy to not go for the SP to start with. Also the bloopers at the end killed me🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yes and standard MT09 can’t be upgraded with cruise control
OC: I THINK the regular mt09 has more value, it'd be less expensive to maintain things (for example the front and rear suspension) plus maybe 5% of riders would notice the difference between the regular KYB and the upgraded one.
plus more color choices
Exactly, you’re better off getting the suspension adjusted for your weight in the regular 09 version and if that maxes it out get new fork cartridges for half the price
@@jackmeoff7686 But you're also paying for labour and taking away time you'd have riding which evens out the whole buisness imo.
@@Daniel-dj7fh I never had an issue with my base model 09, suspension setup took all of 30 minutes and never need fork cartridges but yes you’re right
that extra 1.6k can buy you an exhaust and tune which in my opinion is worth more than that little extra adjustability on your suspension which you really only use when you ride HARD
After you done those upgrades, then you will eventually think about suspension upgrade, then at time time, you will realize how expensive you do it on your own. In my opinion, it worths every penny.
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OC: "General Hooliganism"!!!???. Way to go Chase.... love you bro😊
OC: wowie.. That's a lot of upgrade. And you made a captivating presentation :). Reminds me of my first ever first ride to watch, which was your First Ride review of the 2016 MT 07 while they were still optionally FZ-07..loved that video..watched it so many times as a new rider, (in Kenya)..Five years later and still watching you Chase..keep up with the great growth buddy!!!!!
SP over base, but depends on what you want. Getting my SP this weekend. Can't wait to start riding it.
How was your first summer with the SP?
@@Poopybutts it has been fantastic. It has not disappointed!
@@YantoSP nice. What bike did you come from?
@@hisride I started on '06 R6
I’ve owned so many Motorcycles in the last 8 years and absolutely love my 22 MT09 SP.
OC: Ordered the SP Aug 3rd....(3 months - still no bike) I've already started to mod...the bike that I don't have ... with ASV levers....gold with blue adjusters...Gonna order a radiator guard...thinking of sequential turn signals. Already have an ICON Airflite helmet (Black with Blue graphics) I like the rims on the 2022 XSR900
OC SP all the way man. Love the looks and the extras are worth the cash. Love the outtakes ha ha
Awesome!! I'm leaning towards the non sp model since I don't think I need/want cruise control. The nicer suspension is cool but I think the upgraded fork of the non sp version seems to be decent.
I'm in the same boat. However the older I get the more I seem to like the idea of cruise control lol
I'd only say that the sp makes sense if you're not planning on selling it ever. Like as a final bike, ride it till it dies kind of situation.
Io le ho provate entrambe e la sp è meglio
I never knew cruise control was as awesome as it is until I installed on my KTM. I love it!
Everyone who says that always ends up regretting it
Cruise control is such an underrated feature, so many times I wish I had it when riding long distance
I would say yes totaly got SP and it rides like a dream once setup
It would be nice if Yamaha could get the SP version to the dealerships.....And when a dealerships does get one....they slap on these bloodsucking fees which will take it well above MSRP...
OC: if i had the money for a big boy bike, i would definitely go with the SP
OC: SP all the way for me with a few inexpensive mods like tail tidy and mirrors.
Awesome video I wish you could get the dark side of Japan colors for the SP it’s so sick.
love the addition of the rounder wheel on the 2021 model
🤔 rounder wheel, aren't the wheels as round as it can get before already?
@@Daniel-dj7fh holy whoosh, holy shi
I was totaly on board with geting a MT-09 SP next year only for cruse control. But now i have to have the 2022 SXR900 in black. It has cruse control and i think it looks better too.
Xsr
In Europe the difference is 2000 euro / 2500 usd. I'm thinking standard plus a 600 euro ohlins rear shock without the remote adjustability. For some mountain rides that should do.
OC. The SP is getting into mt10 money. Still very interested in either for sure.
Got the 23 mt09 standard in all black after 50 yrs and dozens of bikes can't fault it, get a reflash you won't regret it.
I just pre ordered the 2022 MT09SP 😄
I just got a standard MT09, didn’t get a chance to test ride the SP as no one has any for that purpose near me, seems to ride and handle very well, I’d say it’s softer the 2022 XSR 900 which I had for a while which for me is a plus point, from what I’ve heard the MT09SP is even stiffer than the XSR 900 so I don’t think I’d buy an SP for that alone, plus I’m not a good enough rider to make use of the better suspension
I'm going with the 2023 standard MT-09 in Matte Raven Black. I'll spend the additional $1700 for the SP on aftermarket accessories to make it mine. I'm hoping the stock suspension will hold up to my 5'7" 175lbs. If not I have a local Ohlins dealer and suspension tuner just giddy to sell me some parts. Hoping it doesn't come to that.
OC Raven Black base model for me, waiting on delivery and its probably just floating in the ocean somewhere.
Just got my 21 MT 07. So stoked to see the 09 changes. How much of the 09 tech do you think will trickle down to the 07 for 2022?
None
Was so looking forward to a Friday first ride for this. Really gonna milk this one out? come on!
We're running behind a little. First Ride comes out tomorrow hopefully.
@@chaseontwowheels you rock love your content would compare nicely to the 890r ktm for a comparison.
Is funny how all TH-camr get they hands on the SP but if u go to any dealer here in PA they don’t have answers on went u can get one.
I ordered the SP in September just waiting for delivery hopefully in March
Where your from?
@@Wisperride England
If I was in the US and an expert rider, the base model, mostly because yeah I get the value but I prefere the darker shocks, they look more natural. Plus with all that skill I can use the extra cash for gear or games or something else, damn that 1600 is more than half the price of the bike I own!
Oc... Bloopers legit! SP if money is no object and dig the script.
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I’m waiting patiently for your comparison between the MT10 and this new MT-09 SP, I can’t decide between the two bikes.
Same, I'm waiting to see the revamped MT10 to upgrade from my XSR700 to either the 9 or 10.
@@ganuvien From what I’ve read the new MT10 it is just a styling refresh, the CP4 is the same with a slight bump in hp. Hopefully it will be revealed at EICMA.
This is definitely on our list of vids to make!
@@birdseyeview3510 yeah and there are some "leaked" pictures of the new MT10. The Storm Fluo will probably get turquoise rims instead of the red ones.
Does the regular mt09 come with a quickshifter on the base model or do u have to add it
OC: I'd for sure take the SP and just change a couple things. This new one is amazing compared to my '14 FZ-09!
I got the standard version as the SP version was not available where I live. I actually prefer the look of the raven matte black finish of my standard model. It is bad ass although I agree with you that the SP is well worth the extra money. But in any case I'm loving my standard version.
OC, should I sell my KTM 890 Duke R for this bike? Which would you pick Chase?
I’ve ordered my SP & previously had a z650 but Yamaha offer a much better bike for less money than the z900 SE so it was an easy choice to switch. Why bother with the standard?
cruise control as being the only selling point........you can get ohlins suspension for 2k and sure its better than mass produced stuff for manufacturers......stock stuff is fine for most........motocross has for years now........i would get stock bike and throw ohlins NIX cartridge kit and TTX shock in rear DTL and keep stock componets for resale or just sell them .......cruise control in LA is useless.........adaptive cruise would be something though
OC - price is cheap for a nice yamaha. I would always go with the highest model you can afford. and then upgrade as you go.
Answer: yes 👍🏻
Now ride the thing! And compare it to the mt10...Especially regarding the fuel economy
if only you can find one... it's hard to get one..
It sucks in Canada that its equivalent to 2200 usd more to get the sp here. 1600 is no brainer but 2200 is a lot that I can't spend on upgrading later. If Cruise control was on both, I would go for the regular one easy
How hard/expensive would it be to put cruise on the mt09
OC - I'd save the money, would I notice the difference? I like to use my right hand!
But i want the cyan storm colors with SP upgrades 😅😂
The difference here in the UK is about 1600-2000 dollars between sp and non sp. Is it really worth the extra? I could live without cruise control and I actually don't like the blue wheels. I never go on track. Shame there's not an all black sp lol
Exactly what I was thinking.. And I don’t have experience with that premium suspension but I assume only a real track rider would have benefits from it.
I they were going to offer the SP in one color combination, this was not it. Not for me anyway. For starters, I've never liked color rims, unless that color is black or some iteration of silver.
For me it's a decision on "is cruise control worth 1600 extra dollars for me, that is my only deciding factor for me.
The best yamaha commercial ever Lol, still not into the front head light
I think the standard version is a better deal.
I recently bought a very lightly used Matte Raven Black 2021 MT-09. I was given the choice between it and a new 2022 MT-09 SP coming in a week later.
After my test ride, on a road of my choice, I felt no need to spend the extra cash for the SP. The dealer sold the bike to me for list price, with a 2 year Yamaha warranty.
I've been tuning the suspension and tire air pressures, I'm not quite through yet, but this bike handles great!
I'm a happy man, this is the most fun bike I've ever ridden!
no steering dampners for mt series?
OC: I'd get the SP and spend some more on accessories as they come out..
This is cool…if one could find one in a dealer
The bike looks so good
OC: SP 100%
The cruise control the sp offers May be the only thing worth going with it over the standard for me.
Can I update standard mt09 to cruise control? 🧐
SP is worth the extra $1600.00 a nice exhaust is usually around $2400.00+
I got a regular one bc it was all I could find haha.
my brother bought the new mt09 basic model and here in ireland they are 11,000 euro(12,700 dollar's}....taxes are crazy over here....
The front end does look a lot better
I loooooove that bike!!!!!
OC: I'd go for the SP. dat cruise control
OC: SP all day. I’m bias but for a reason. TOCE exhaust coming soon 👀
@Sonrise Sunset oh I definitely will as soon as I get It back
Wouldn't the toce fit the non-sp?
@@Daniel-dj7fh it’ll fit both
OC: What’s your thought on the new MT-10???
Here in aus the price difference between sp and non sp is 3k man :/
You forgot the part on the sp where it comes with a quick shifter too
They both come standard with up and down quick shifter
Can't the exhaust inhibit tire wear since it is aimed downwards and the hot gas might hit the back wheel?
I might just have to trade my fz07 for the sp
OC trying to figure out if I want the mt 09 or the tracer 9gt.
09 or z900, tracer doesn't work for me
Why would anyone buy a cb650r when the mt09 is only 100 more? WT.F
Maybe some people want a good-looking bike that is gutless below 10,000-rpm? I can’t believe Honda can get away with that price.
Dah! Why must they make the non crossplane so good and tempting :(
I'm buying an mt 09,20 21 next week😎👍👍🏍
man in Australia the price of the SP model is 18k 😅
OC: definetly going for the new 2022 XSR900. More mature optics and cruise control as standard
I want it in black
Just give me a round headlight on this thing!!! Make it an option.
totally worth it…
I like the older design more, but the features in the 2021 model is perfect.
Wish the bike was as cheap in the UK
OC-Love both bikes but would definitely go for the SP. Only thing is I wished they switched the colors. Those orange wheels are captivating 🤤
A Smort video would be the MT09 vs the New XSR900. Just sayin
Hasn't been confirmed for U.S. yet though 🙄. Europe always getting the cool bikes.
Just wish there was a MT07sp.
I own a SP. Worth every penny.
OC: That MT-09 Sp is good value for the monies.
In the older model 09SPs it wasn’t worth it with the Ohlins being the cheapest set of ohlins suspension
@@jackmeoff7686 So you’re saying it’s better to purchase the based model? Then purchase and add better suspension?
I'll take the SP, the 1200 is a bargain
i think it a steal for 1600
Wheels are ROUNDER???
2022 yamaha R9 gonna be the best sport street bike ever made
As of May 2024 the R9 does not exist.
If you value your life, absolutely. I'm talking from experience, it was extremely dangerous, out of control, nearly died many times. Then the fact that the standard shock wears out after 8,000 miles, it needs to be replaced anyways. Ohlins shock and k-tech springs completely transformed it to a very planted fun bike. Also use Motul 10w on compression fork and 15w on rebound
Are you talking about the gen 1 bikes?
I'm going to get a MT-07 as my next bike. I currently have a 2020 MT-03.
Good choice. I have a 15 fz-07, great bike for the money. Take your time ...learn how to ride.
@@johnrettburg8224 yeah, I'm going to wait until the tail end of 2022.
These are impossible to find.
SP please