Physical media is really a bargain these days. In the 90s a laserdisc cost at least fifty bucks. And that's in 90s dollars. We're so spoiled to have 4k now. It's like having a 35mm print, only way cheaper.
Agreed. I have a laserdisc player and was just thinking about firing it up again. Mr. Frost with Jeff Goldblum on laserdisc is a classic and is totally different than the US release.
@@LordDementus1987believe it or not, they really are hurting. Most of the studios are on a downward death spiral - streaming has taken away 80% of their cable tv revenue, and 80%+ of physical media sales. Los Angeles production is faltering, and everything is being shot where the tax breaks are best because the industry is getting into extremely small margins. Just think about how many flops and strikes there recently have been. Forgot the a-list celebrity and top executive, they are disgustingly overpaid. But the rest of the crew and production - it’s not doing well
I buy both Blu-Ray and 4K discs. Sometimes I will buy the cheaper Blu-Ray if it is a movie that didn't get a great 4k transfer or is a comedy or drama that doesn't really need the upgrade. That said, especially if you are patient, the 4K discs can be quite affordable. I own a ton of 4K discs that were between $10 and $15. It does blow my mind that people are still buying DVDs unless it is an OOP situation. If you like it enough to buy it, get a Blu-Ray at least.
I agree, although there are a few movies/tv shows that never came out on blu-ray so owning the DVD is pretty much your only option. I personally like how a lot of movies look without the HDR
@@CD-z7d5k On any decent 4K TV you can disable the upscale. That said, quality of upscale varies wildly. Some are very good. You generally get what you pay for.
I check the reviews. Some 4K blu-rays come from new scans and the effort is put into the HDR to make it worth picking up. Others are either 2K scans or just elements that don't offer much improvement. For the most part if I already have a standard blu-ray I'm happy with I don't even consider a 4K version unless it is something special.
A VERY strange take. 4K discs will always look better even on a $500 system compared to blu ray. No, they won’t look as good as they will on a $5K system, but then nor do standard blu rays! 4K will always look and sound better no matter what lever you’re at. Also, you should be noticing the details. That’s what the director intends when making a film. That’s why they strive over colour grading, grain, all the small details they strive over is part of the film so yes you should be paying as much attention to that as you are the film. I find your take here very bizarre. But then, it’s your opinion of course
I collect primarily 4K, regular bluray, and niche old school VHS I grew up with. I only go DVD when i thrift and only of its a niche title not available on any other format. I don't believe my LG soundbar gets Dolby Atmos as its over a decade old (and still kicking!) I don't care though, my 75" Samsung does showcase 4ks well but I only get 4k when I want to treat myself (rarely), it's a bday or Xmas gift, or if it's a movie i absolutely LOVE and refuse to have it in lower resolution (i.e. The Crow 4k, The Abyss 4k, etc). Most of my titles are blurays and I've had to store away to sell off a lot of old DVDs I've upgraded to HD.
I try to buy only 4K blu ray these days and I only buy blu ray if the 4K is not available. I also made a promise to myself that I will not double dip where if I already have a movie in blu ray, I won't buy it in 4K. So far my collection still has more blu rays but 4K is increasing really fast, it is about 40% of my colleciton now. I think 4K looks way better than blu ray but I do have an 85 inch TV and on a TV that big, 4K makes a huge difference.
Lately, I've been buying secondhand DVDs in thrift stores between $1-$5 and later, if I locate the same film in either blu-ray or 4k (depending on the film; also secondhand) I'll potentially upgrade, but still hang on to the DVD because I didn't break the bank to begin with.
It upscales Blu-Ray to 4k and DVD to 1080P and does some color enhancements. It’s not native, but with blu-rays that were remastered correctly and have the film grain intact, the image can look really sharp, assuming you like the film grain to begin with. Even if you already buy 4k; it helps with blu rays that never got a 4k release.
I only get 4k if it's an old movie 1960s and back further to mid 2000's the newer stuff standard bluray as its pretty much same quality its 4k scaled back to 1080, I also get older movies in 1080 if they we're scaled back from a 4k release
@@ebayer1980 Sadly you are mistaken, the studios put that on the label to increase sales and to trick you into buying something more expensive when you're actually buying the same exact thing on (Newer films only), I've personally done side by side comparisons between Ghostbusters after life and ghostbusters frozen empire between standard bluray and 4k both newer films correct, one newer than the other but both new regardless, there was absolutely zero difference what so ever, I tested this with other films as well that are newer zero difference however with older films such as ghostbusters, ghostbusters ll, back to the future trilogy, Yes there's a big difference even when its scaled down from 4k disc to 1080 bluray which only applies to older films & older tv shows, Another franchise that's pretty popular, The Matrix trilogy all 3 look better in 4k than standard scaled down 1080 bluray however the 4th movie is the exact same quality picture and sound on standard bluray and 4k bluray "hdr", If you want to continue to waste your money on something you could get cheaper with same exact picture and sound by all means keep giving into the lie and opinions of others and keep buying the 4k for newer films however as I've done my own research and you obviously haven't I choose to believe the truth and facts that's been stated, Studios loose money all the time so of course they will sell you the same product for a higher price they aren't stupid they will flatter you with a better coverart such as Twisters (the sequel) the 4k cover was the best cover they made for it the standard bluray cover was boring and dull, They know how to make things appealing to the eye, They also know people usually go the route of the (If it's newer it must be better) Look back on old tv's by all means the picture quality was worse however they we're built to last there are 1960s tvs that still work today without any issues some have never been repaired, Nowadays modern tv's don't last long even if they do last up to random numbers 1-5years the 1960s tvs that do still run will more than likely out live us, they build modern tv's to not last on purpose they do it so they can keep making more money, They spend money to make newer models so you bet your ass they're going to try and get you to spend as much money as possible to keep their bank accounts up float same with Hollywood studios, They loose so much money making films they're going to do their best to gain as much of it back as possible Disney has caught on to this with their limited bluray steel case/limited 4k steel case tv shows such as the Mandalorian they could release a standard bluray case version however they know they can make more by releasing steelcase only so that's what they do.
@@FreeJohnDoe2006 no. They put hdr label on all tv's to trick customers. Budget tv's can't show hdr and so no difference. Same with projectors. What tv You are using?
@@FreeJohnDoe2006sorry, but that it is cheap tv with fake hdr. Midrange tcl or hisense with miniLED backlight is minimum in order to see Hdr. Even better would be midrange oled tv, like Lg c4, Samsung s90d
4K Blu-rays never worked reliably for me and really when comparing between 4KBD and BD, I do not see the big deal. I sold the ones I had, sold my 4KBD player, put my LG BP350 back in my setup and went back to regular BD. I have some 4K digitals in Vudu and I love having that when I travel for work. I think most people forget that BD looked perfectly good to begin with.
It depends on the quality of the transfer and the TV you're watching it all on. A great high end tv will make a great 4K transfer look undeniably incredible, while also exposing the shortcomings of a poorly done 1080p transfer...especially if you're used to watching the best examples of 4K (since not all transfers are created equal for a variety of reasons). But I do agree that if someone is happy with their setup then there's little sense worrying about it.
@@Chrisratata And that's the thing. I don't have a great, high-end TV. Even some of the best OLEDs I've seen left something to be desired compared to plasma screens I've seen. The downside with plasma is of course you're limited to 65-inches or less, and 1080p SDR. But the colors look more natural, you don't have issues like blooming and color bleed. And a major complaint I have about OLEDs is screen uniformity usually is bad. Plus smart TVs generally slow down after awhile where plasmas are just dumb displays and do not. I just don't think 4K is worth it most times. There are of course exceptions. But a well done 1080p transfer is going to look perfectly fine. 4K is also getting to the point of too expensive imo. The last two steelbooks I came across on Amazon were $50. The average person isn't going to pay that ever. Even $20 for a 4K is a lot to ask for a movie that has been out for a couple years. I won't pay that when I can go get it on Apple for $4.99-9.99. And not have to pay shipping, not have to deal with skipping/freezing discs. I'm sticking with Blu-ray for the foreseeable future.
Personally, I love and collect blu rays. If a 4k is only a few € more then ok but like 10 more. I can pass unless it's a super amazing movie. I do have some dvds, but some of the great movies from back in the day never made it past dvd.
The thing that bugs me is not only are so many 4K releases horrible but so much older content isn''t being brought over to 4K.... So this makes it borderline mandatory to watch 1080p and below content-which should be no problem, right? Wrong! It means now of you wanna enjoy that older content to its fullest you either need a display that's native to its resolution or you need to sit much further back from your 4K TV (double the seating distance if you're watching 1080p blu rays and about FOUR TIMES the normal seating distance if you're watching DVD/Laserdisc!!!) ....Not so simple now is it! 😑
No 4k blu ray only Regular blu ray with 1080p is the superior one and if you bring a 4K blu. Ray discs, Near my beloved home, including, 4k tv both the 4k tv and 4k blurays discs will be one ticket on the streets by the side walk However if it a 1080p blu-ray discs and 1080p tv it gets to stay Full hd Is the supreme forever.
@ben99ny69 Not I'm not letting 4 Kenya on my home.And if they all dare approach me Against my HD stuff. It will get invicted out of the house and it will be sitting on the sidewalk Only 1080P is allowed to come near my home.
@@Chris-w6q1c thxs for your opinion but that just opinion no ask no one cares i said what i said if u dont like it mind your own stupid buiness its not your choice for me to like what i like.
@@Chris-w6q1c Look! kid i dont need someone to tell me what to do i dont know who you are so back off i never meet you or know you so back off tough guy! just like my mother says i have ever right to have an opinion if u dont like that boo hoo then but dont come up to someone want cause some truoble its rude and disrespectful to come to a comment and like criticized of what i like!
@@CD-z7d5k Ive not told you what to do. Also you’ve rambled on and on about something not to do with anything here. Mental gymnastics at play here. I wish you well
In my opinion there is no point buying physical. Most of the new movie suck and even video games are going digital because each game needs a update every couple months 🤦♂️
What a horrible comment. We need to preserve the tangibility of physical media. There are PLENTY of great movies still coming out. Hell we just got Transformers One and The Wild Robot!
I agree most new movies suck. But seeing and hearing Blade Runner in 4K on a good setup is the best. Far better than any streaming 4K, which I can't really do reliably where I live. Not to mention that I have some physical media movies that are no longer available, like my 2006 DVD of Star Wars and Empire Strikes back with the OG special effects. Studios have been more and more censorship happy for politically correct reasons. Even Criterion cut out a scene of a recent release of The French Connection because it came off as too racist. A friend of mine has a bunch of laser discs that have WW2 wartime cartoon propaganda that has been banned for ages.
Physical media is really a bargain these days. In the 90s a laserdisc cost at least fifty bucks. And that's in 90s dollars. We're so spoiled to have 4k now. It's like having a 35mm print, only way cheaper.
Agreed. I have a laserdisc player and was just thinking about firing it up again. Mr. Frost with Jeff Goldblum on laserdisc is a classic and is totally different than the US release.
It doesn't look like Hollywood is hurting for the money.
@@LordDementus1987believe it or not, they really are hurting. Most of the studios are on a downward death spiral - streaming has taken away 80% of their cable tv revenue, and 80%+ of physical media sales. Los Angeles production is faltering, and everything is being shot where the tax breaks are best because the industry is getting into extremely small margins. Just think about how many flops and strikes there recently have been. Forgot the a-list celebrity and top executive, they are disgustingly overpaid. But the rest of the crew and production - it’s not doing well
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I buy both Blu-Ray and 4K discs. Sometimes I will buy the cheaper Blu-Ray if it is a movie that didn't get a great 4k transfer or is a comedy or drama that doesn't really need the upgrade. That said, especially if you are patient, the 4K discs can be quite affordable. I own a ton of 4K discs that were between $10 and $15. It does blow my mind that people are still buying DVDs unless it is an OOP situation. If you like it enough to buy it, get a Blu-Ray at least.
I agree, although there are a few movies/tv shows that never came out on blu-ray so owning the DVD is pretty much your only option.
I personally like how a lot of movies look without the HDR
4k tvs are trash they make all my 1080p blu-ray discs into its garbage upscale compare to my new 1080p samsung hd tv
@@HugxoMartinez i got my backup plans to avoid 4k in my home i go ebay to found 1080p tvs cuz 4k tvs are bad they make my blu-rays awful upscale to 4k
@@CD-z7d5k On any decent 4K TV you can disable the upscale. That said, quality of upscale varies wildly. Some are very good. You generally get what you pay for.
I check the reviews. Some 4K blu-rays come from new scans and the effort is put into the HDR to make it worth picking up. Others are either 2K scans or just elements that don't offer much improvement. For the most part if I already have a standard blu-ray I'm happy with I don't even consider a 4K version unless it is something special.
A VERY strange take. 4K discs will always look better even on a $500 system compared to blu ray. No, they won’t look as good as they will on a $5K system, but then nor do standard blu rays! 4K will always look and sound better no matter what lever you’re at. Also, you should be noticing the details. That’s what the director intends when making a film. That’s why they strive over colour grading, grain, all the small details they strive over is part of the film so yes you should be paying as much attention to that as you are the film. I find your take here very bizarre. But then, it’s your opinion of course
I collect primarily 4K, regular bluray, and niche old school VHS I grew up with. I only go DVD when i thrift and only of its a niche title not available on any other format. I don't believe my LG soundbar gets Dolby Atmos as its over a decade old (and still kicking!) I don't care though, my 75" Samsung does showcase 4ks well but I only get 4k when I want to treat myself (rarely), it's a bday or Xmas gift, or if it's a movie i absolutely LOVE and refuse to have it in lower resolution (i.e. The Crow 4k, The Abyss 4k, etc). Most of my titles are blurays and I've had to store away to sell off a lot of old DVDs I've upgraded to HD.
I try to buy only 4K blu ray these days and I only buy blu ray if the 4K is not available. I also made a promise to myself that I will not double dip where if I already have a movie in blu ray, I won't buy it in 4K. So far my collection still has more blu rays but 4K is increasing really fast, it is about 40% of my colleciton now. I think 4K looks way better than blu ray but I do have an 85 inch TV and on a TV that big, 4K makes a huge difference.
go back to 1080p tv 1080p blu-ray if u want better movie picture and sound u got go back on full hd on movies
1080p blu-rays and 1080p tvs is much better then your garbage 4k stuff
Lately, I've been buying secondhand DVDs in thrift stores between $1-$5 and later, if I locate the same film in either blu-ray or 4k (depending on the film; also secondhand) I'll potentially upgrade, but still hang on to the DVD because I didn't break the bank to begin with.
@@cas05005 DVDs are still very watchable, more so if you watch on a smaller screen. Blown up to a 75” TV makes the image look bad
M cable? Does that really make a difference.
It upscales Blu-Ray to 4k and DVD to 1080P and does some color enhancements.
It’s not native, but with blu-rays that were remastered correctly and have the film grain intact, the image can look really sharp, assuming you like the film grain to begin with.
Even if you already buy 4k; it helps with blu rays that never got a 4k release.
I only get 4k if it's an old movie 1960s and back further to mid 2000's the newer stuff standard bluray as its pretty much same quality its 4k scaled back to 1080, I also get older movies in 1080 if they we're scaled back from a 4k release
No, 4k is quite better on newer films also, because of hdr
@@ebayer1980 Sadly you are mistaken, the studios put that on the label to increase sales and to trick you into buying something more expensive when you're actually buying the same exact thing on (Newer films only), I've personally done side by side comparisons between Ghostbusters after life and ghostbusters frozen empire between standard bluray and 4k both newer films correct, one newer than the other but both new regardless, there was absolutely zero difference what so ever, I tested this with other films as well that are newer zero difference however with older films such as ghostbusters, ghostbusters ll, back to the future trilogy, Yes there's a big difference even when its scaled down from 4k disc to 1080 bluray which only applies to older films & older tv shows, Another franchise that's pretty popular, The Matrix trilogy all 3 look better in 4k than standard scaled down 1080 bluray however the 4th movie is the exact same quality picture and sound on standard bluray and 4k bluray "hdr", If you want to continue to waste your money on something you could get cheaper with same exact picture and sound by all means keep giving into the lie and opinions of others and keep buying the 4k for newer films however as I've done my own research and you obviously haven't I choose to believe the truth and facts that's been stated, Studios loose money all the time so of course they will sell you the same product for a higher price they aren't stupid they will flatter you with a better coverart such as Twisters (the sequel) the 4k cover was the best cover they made for it the standard bluray cover was boring and dull, They know how to make things appealing to the eye, They also know people usually go the route of the (If it's newer it must be better) Look back on old tv's by all means the picture quality was worse however they we're built to last there are 1960s tvs that still work today without any issues some have never been repaired, Nowadays modern tv's don't last long even if they do last up to random numbers 1-5years the 1960s tvs that do still run will more than likely out live us, they build modern tv's to not last on purpose they do it so they can keep making more money, They spend money to make newer models so you bet your ass they're going to try and get you to spend as much money as possible to keep their bank accounts up float same with Hollywood studios, They loose so much money making films they're going to do their best to gain as much of it back as possible Disney has caught on to this with their limited bluray steel case/limited 4k steel case tv shows such as the Mandalorian they could release a standard bluray case version however they know they can make more by releasing steelcase only so that's what they do.
@@FreeJohnDoe2006 no. They put hdr label on all tv's to trick customers. Budget tv's can't show hdr and so no difference. Same with projectors. What tv You are using?
@@ebayer1980 Again sadly you are mistaken, Ruku 4k tv.
@@FreeJohnDoe2006sorry, but that it is cheap tv with fake hdr.
Midrange tcl or hisense with miniLED backlight is minimum in order to see Hdr. Even better would be midrange oled tv, like Lg c4, Samsung s90d
4K Blu-rays never worked reliably for me and really when comparing between 4KBD and BD, I do not see the big deal. I sold the ones I had, sold my 4KBD player, put my LG BP350 back in my setup and went back to regular BD. I have some 4K digitals in Vudu and I love having that when I travel for work. I think most people forget that BD looked perfectly good to begin with.
It depends on the quality of the transfer and the TV you're watching it all on. A great high end tv will make a great 4K transfer look undeniably incredible, while also exposing the shortcomings of a poorly done 1080p transfer...especially if you're used to watching the best examples of 4K (since not all transfers are created equal for a variety of reasons).
But I do agree that if someone is happy with their setup then there's little sense worrying about it.
@@Chrisratata And that's the thing. I don't have a great, high-end TV. Even some of the best OLEDs I've seen left something to be desired compared to plasma screens I've seen. The downside with plasma is of course you're limited to 65-inches or less, and 1080p SDR. But the colors look more natural, you don't have issues like blooming and color bleed. And a major complaint I have about OLEDs is screen uniformity usually is bad. Plus smart TVs generally slow down after awhile where plasmas are just dumb displays and do not.
I just don't think 4K is worth it most times. There are of course exceptions. But a well done 1080p transfer is going to look perfectly fine. 4K is also getting to the point of too expensive imo. The last two steelbooks I came across on Amazon were $50. The average person isn't going to pay that ever. Even $20 for a 4K is a lot to ask for a movie that has been out for a couple years. I won't pay that when I can go get it on Apple for $4.99-9.99. And not have to pay shipping, not have to deal with skipping/freezing discs.
I'm sticking with Blu-ray for the foreseeable future.
Good call. Shrek is unwatchable without HDR.
I actually like how it looks more without it.
Not sure how it looks stock cause I always use the mcable.
DVDs are still king cause they are hella cheap
They look the same on any 4K or 8K certified HDMI cable. Not just the M cable.🙄
Personally, I love and collect blu rays. If a 4k is only a few € more then ok but like 10 more. I can pass unless it's a super amazing movie. I do have some dvds, but some of the great movies from back in the day never made it past dvd.
The thing that bugs me is not only are so many 4K releases horrible but so much older content isn''t being brought over to 4K.... So this makes it borderline mandatory to watch 1080p and below content-which should be no problem, right? Wrong! It means now of you wanna enjoy that older content to its fullest you either need a display that's native to its resolution or you need to sit much further back from your 4K TV (double the seating distance if you're watching 1080p blu rays and about FOUR TIMES the normal seating distance if you're watching DVD/Laserdisc!!!) ....Not so simple now is it! 😑
Truly price per value 4k is just not great at all.
No 4k blu ray only Regular blu ray with 1080p is the superior one and if you bring a 4K blu. Ray discs, Near my beloved home, including, 4k tv both the 4k tv and 4k blurays discs will be one ticket on the streets by the side walk However if it a 1080p blu-ray discs and 1080p tv it gets to stay Full hd Is the supreme forever.
What a stupid mindset.
@ben99ny69 Not I'm not letting 4 Kenya on my home.And if they all dare approach me Against my HD stuff. It will get invicted out of the house and it will be sitting on the sidewalk Only 1080P is allowed to come near my home.
@ben99ny69 No 4K in my house. And if it dares approach me against my beloved Samsung smart HDTV I have. It will get invicted down the streets.
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1080p blu-ray and 1080p tv is better
4k blu-ray and 4k tvs garbage
Absolute mind numbing comment,and you’ve made a few of them on this channel.
@@Chris-w6q1c thxs for your opinion but that just opinion no ask no one cares i said what i said if u dont like it mind your own stupid buiness its not your choice for me to like what i like.
I see, you’ll give an opinion but don’t like it when another person gives an opinion.
@@Chris-w6q1c Look! kid i dont need someone to tell me what to do i dont know who you are so back off i never meet you or know you so back off tough guy!
just like my mother says i have ever right to have an opinion if u dont like that boo hoo then but dont come up to someone want cause some truoble its rude and disrespectful to come to a comment and like criticized of what i like!
@@CD-z7d5k Ive not told you what to do. Also you’ve rambled on and on about something not to do with anything here. Mental gymnastics at play here. I wish you well
In my opinion there is no point buying physical. Most of the new movie suck and even video games are going digital because each game needs a update every couple months 🤦♂️
@@danielvazquez392 You still got the old movies! And there are also a couple of them that you can’t even stream, like “28 Days Later”
What a horrible comment. We need to preserve the tangibility of physical media. There are PLENTY of great movies still coming out. Hell we just got Transformers One and The Wild Robot!
I agree most new movies suck. But seeing and hearing Blade Runner in 4K on a good setup is the best. Far better than any streaming 4K, which I can't really do reliably where I live. Not to mention that I have some physical media movies that are no longer available, like my 2006 DVD of Star Wars and Empire Strikes back with the OG special effects. Studios have been more and more censorship happy for politically correct reasons. Even Criterion cut out a scene of a recent release of The French Connection because it came off as too racist. A friend of mine has a bunch of laser discs that have WW2 wartime cartoon propaganda that has been banned for ages.
My bet is you don't have a flagship TV or a solid home theater setup.
“New movies suck” watch more movies little bro