The Sad Decline Of DVDs
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ย. 2024
- Today, I talk about the sad decline of the DVD (and blu ray and 4K blu rays) and how it was dethroned by streaming services like Netflix, Disney Plus (Disney +) Hulu, HBO Max, Peacock, paramount plus (paramount +) and prime video
Also I talk about The things that came before it like theatres, TV (Television) and VHS
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PHYSICAL MEDIA BETTER THAN STREAMING 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
Absolutely correct. What we need is a viewer's bill of rights including abandonware automatically made public domain. Tired of not having the 2014 Believe show starring Johnny Sequoyah or 2016 CW Containment on physical media because both shows filmmakers are acting like bigots towards their customers
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As of 2024, DVD is still the most sold physical media format on the market. It overtook blu ray in 2021 and has held the title ever since.
Weird how it overtook blu ray.
@bluejaysfan965 DVD is cheaper and smart TVs can do some techno magic to make them look almost as good as blu ray.
@@theotherjared9824also they are better than the ones from 20 years ago
It's because they're cheap, education buys em cause they can be played in all DVD drives. Sony encrypting Blu-Ray hard is what stopped it from overtaking DVD
Physical media is GOATed.
Internet? Not required
Quality? 480p - 4K UHD
Sound? Stereo - Atmos
Ads? None during the movie
Cost? 5 - 30$ per disc
Compression? None
Hotel? Trivago
@@LemonSoundLogosPhysical still has compression, just much less than streaming.
@@washere3955 i heard thether tapes have like 1tb or something per movie, so 4k is the best way for you to get the highest quality thing.
@@washere3955 Well yeah. It would take huge amounts of data for uncompressed video. Basically, all consumer video (outside of studios), is compressed unless analog.
@@LemonSoundLogosPAL DVDs are 576p.
Ironically enough the DVD format is the only successful physical media since the small domination of streaming. Not only has it outperformed Blu-Ray's and the new 4K's, but it has actually gotten cheaper while the HD and UHD formats have become more expensive.
God bless DVD's all the way!
Erm, cheaper unless you are trying to find out of print kung-fu films. 15 years ago it was great. ...If you do see "The Blade Spares None" anywhere for a tenner, give me a shout.... asking for a friend.
DVDs are on their way back mostly cuz streaming services keep removing content on a whim without any notice, whereas on dvd they can’t take it away from you, also dvds are dirt cheap rn
But why DVD and not blu ray? Who wants standard definition in 2024.
@@goldenhourkodak upscaling exists on modern cheap dvd players.
@@GoHardDrive-b9f And is actually better than some BD in a few cases.... I recently bought BD set of an upcaled SD show that I also on on DVD.... the 'locked in' upscaling by the studio on the bluray is actually significantly worse than the upscaling my player already did on the DVD (and with a firmware upgrade was absolutely amazing)
It all depends on if the Studios involved had decent quality control practices.... The 4K release of Aliens (along with others )is supposedly bloody terrible due to them using AI to upscale an old lower res transfer-that was used to do the 1080p version (That looks better on 4k TVs as a result of upsampling than this 'burned in' mess)
@@Georgie_R my guess is that you need more proccessing power to upscale 1080p blu ray. 480p is easier so it looks better.
@@goldenhourkodak eh. only reason i use bluray is just for newer films and also for bluray 3d.
Afraid of it becoming a "realizing it's too late to now care about DVDs" kinda thing 😢
Physical media should be preserved
It’s not too late! Start collecting now
wdym too late. Theyve been the cheapest its ever been, even if none are produced any more
@@eightcoins4401 none produced anymore? Do you think new releases aren't coming out on physical media?
#PhysicalMediaLivesMatter
@@therandommariofan this comment should get a heart
Common therandommariofan W (I'm a Physical Media fanatic)
Been collecting over the last year, feels satisfying owning an actual collection of shows and movies I like. I feel like physical media might become a novelty thing eventually like vinyl records are now.
It’s honestly sad to see how few times I see people not buying DVDs at my local Goodwill. It’s so bad, they had to lower the price from $3 to $1 and now even as low as $0.50!
Wished they lowered the price here.
Alot of those are usually movies people already own on physical media when the movie isnt straight up crap
I’ve always been an advocate for physical media I have nothing against streaming services but they don’t give you everything
Streaming is temporary, but DVD is forever ( well unless you damage it )
I never gave up collecting physical media, never trusted streaming and don’t use it. Today I consider my choices to have been very wise
Why all the good shows on streaming now
Waste of space and time
Its all fun and games till your house burns down
DVD is not declining and have increased in the last year or so with many people. I have bought 30 in the last 3 months. I was paying £2-£3 for DVD's whereas a 4K might be £20. Also, there are many films still only on DVD. I have no interest in 4K and don't need the latest picture quality or sound quality. In the past I had over 2000 DVD's .
I was born in the early '90s, so for almost my entire childhood I grew up with VHS, but I think in 2004 or 2005 my parents bought me a Hyundai DVD player and the first DVD movie I watched was The SpongeBob Movie and the jump in picture quality was mind blowing at the time. I have fond memories of renting DVDs, I really liked those which included 2 discs, the second one featuring extras like interviews, behind the scenes and "games"
i love DVDs, i still use them pretty actively with my ps2
so do i & my blu ray player
keep in mind, if you got a slim, they can scratch both game and movie dvds
Physical media will never die. I still buy CDs, DVDs, cassettes,VHS. Most of my films, are DVDs, with some Blu rays, 4K.
Forgot about my records.
I still buy and watch DVDs
*DVDs never "declined".* It's probably the most dominant format EVER. If it declined, it happened NATURALLY, and due to the age of the format.
VHS and DVDs were a part of my childhood along with many others in millennial and Gen Z generations. I believe streaming could be the culprit for the collapse of DVD sales. But, physical media is nostalgic and better than streaming.
there are thousands upon thousands titles not on streaming at all. Many get removed all the time.
So basically just buy the dvd of your favorites and skip all the different subscriptions
In the uk its actually 576p not 480p thats a us thing and dvds can be 8.5gb if its dual layered
Because in uk they use PAL
Most DVD movies are dual layer.
@@richardlara5466In most of Europe.
Not all UK DVDs are PAL, some are NTSC, but yeah, PAL’s more common.
to be fair the ted show is really good imo, the show gives more time to develope charaters rather than squishing everything into 1 film
it all started going down hill at the release of Click on DVD
Okay, this may be a technical "nitpick" but true nonetheless . . . DVDs (more accurately discs under the DVD-Video specification) are 480i (not 480p). The underlying MPEG stream is interlaced, though all modern DVD players will deinterlace and provide a progressive signal (though this is only through HDMI and *maybe* component, composite/s-video connections are obviously limited to interlaced output).
I still have over 1000 of them. I see the stack every time I step in my living room 😊
I still have a lot of DVDs and Blu rays. The first DVD I got was the Wizard of Oz.
For me it's always exiting putting in a new dvd or another one that I've already owned
Actually usually the DVD is dual-sided, which means that we get about 8.5GB of data there. Not 4.7
DVDs with 8.5GB capacity usually had 6-8GB movies on them. A lot of them were single-sided and on a burnable disc, the largest that can fit is 4.37GB
It's also not a very good compression used for DVD. You can convert a DVD file to a MKV file and the space used, lowers from 4GB to about 650MB to 1.5GB, without any loss in quality.
The high capacity DVDs would compress to about a 2.5GB MKV file or less.
Blurays movies are usually 22GB to 40GB on a 25GB-50GB disc.
@@frommatorav1 I think you're missing the point here. The video is misleading. First, it mentions that Blu-ray can hold 25-50GB of data, and HD-DVD about 15-30GB, but then incorrectly states that DVDs can only hold 4.7GB of data. In reality, DVDs can hold between 4.7 and 8.5GB. It's inconsistent to provide a range for one format and not for the others.
Second, you can't definitively claim that most DVDs were single-sided. I own a collection of 6,000 DVDs, and I know that many of the more popular titles, especially from major Hollywood studios, are dual-sided discs. Single-sided discs were more common for lower-budget or straight-to-video releases.
Third, the same logic applies to Blu-ray and 4K discs. While 4K discs can theoretically hold up to 100GB, no single movie disc actually contains 100GB of movie data. The same goes for DVDs, especially since we're dealing with lower resolution formats here.
@@moviemaster00000 I would agree that most Hollywood movies were on dual-layer discs, which hold more. I would disagree that most were 2 sided. For me, that was quite rare and usually only for a movie that was widescreen 16:9 on one side and 4:3 full frame on the other.
@@frommatorav1 still it's misleading to put a range of GBs on one type of physical media and ignore it on the other type of physical media. That was the main reason for my main comment here.
Even then the main film will only be 480p
4:47 "pretty much every movie that was on VHS had been rereleased on DVD at this point". Um, no. Somewhere around 50,000 titles never made it from VHS to DVD.
Can you make video about DVD ,blu ray, and 4K Blu-ray packaging since there a lot that are bad and good packaging. Also good video. 👍
Netflix and Disney will also remove shows/movies . Some shows are stuck on dvd
The resolution of DVDs is higher in Europe, it is 576p compared to the US NTSC resolution of 480p. It might not sound like much, but it makes a big difference.
One of the cool things about consoles like the PS3, PS4 and Xbox One S is that they automatically upscale DVDs to 1080p or even 4K, depending on the type of TV you have. Its funny how many people don't realise that simple and useful feature, yet still decided to upgrade their movies to Blu Ray.
The thought of gen Alpha kids not knowing what a dvd is devastating
Correction: the amount of movies that were released on VHS was far more than has ever been released on DVD. There are loads of movies that have only ever had a VHS release.
I still get DVD movies if the blu ray is sold out
Most tvs don't have aspect ratio adjustment settings, where on a blu ray, the content is locked to a 4:3 format on older content. On a dvd, a blu ray player can stretch the video to screen 16:9 even if it is 4:3.
You can either put a MPEG-2 stream that's 480i or add black bars to the video and upscale to 720p or 1080p atleast for normal bluray
A high quality external video upscaler makes DVD videos look gorgeous and sharp. Just saying.
You are wrong. Commercial DVD's are usually pressed using dual-layer discs which usually can hold around 8gb of data.
DVDs were the life of my era. And also VHS! I wish they would still do them :(
Great video , massive inspiration to us smaller creators 👍👍
One time when I was at Target, all the DVDs were pulled from the shelves which means the future of DVDs is now very uncertain.
Personally, not a huge fan of DVDs, but I’ve been collecting 4Ks/BluRays/VHS and absolutely LOVE them. 😭
0:27 Actually, Kind of Nit Picking here, But DVDs can have a Maximum storage capacity of 8.5GB of Data for a Dual layer Disc which is what Most Companies use for their DVDs. It's Very rare for a Company to use a Single Layer disc which has the max capacity of 4.7GB
Nobody is going to bring up RCA's CED format?
You overlooked 8mm and super 8 film. They were a home media before VHS/Beta.
Super 8 film was never mainstream. He also didn't bring up laser disc. It's superior to VHS quality in every way and close to DVD quality on most releases and better than DVD on a couple of Special Edition laser disc movies . LD was also not mainstream because of the price, so I understand it being skipped, too.
@@frommatorav1 the technology of LaserDisc was fundamental in the eventual breakthrough of DVDs, the technology that superseded DVD was the VideoCD, which I have noticed never seems to be mentioned when talking about the history of how DVDs came into existence.
The compression codec used to make VideoCDs was MPEG 1 (made by the Motion Picture Experts Group), which is a lower quality version of MPEG 2 codec eventually created for DVDs. The only problem with MPEG 1, apart from the low quality, is that you couldn't fit a whole movie on one CD due to the limitations of CDs being 650-700MB at the time. So most commercial VideoCDs came on 2 or more discs, they were also easy to copy, which lead to a lot of VideoCD piracy in the early 90's.
The main aim and challenge was to somehow fit a whole movie onto a single disc, the only technology at the time that could do this was LaserDisc which originally used CD technology to store analogue video & audio information on a large disc, which was expensive to produce and cumbersome for most consumers to use.
The answer was to create a new format of disc that could store the large amount of data required to show a movie at a relatively higher quality than MPEG 1, which had the same quality as VHS. It took almost 9 years to develop a CD like disc that would be able to fit an entire movie on and yet be cheap enough to produce in large numbers. Two corporations helped the MPEG Consortium to research and eventually create what would become the DVD, Philips who originally created the CD and Sony. Other corporation's would eventually join them to help create the DVD Consortium, which still exists to this day.
@@frommatorav1 don't forget VideoCDs as well, which superceded DVDs and has similar MPEG 1 (VHS quality) encoding technology. LaserDisc was seen as a standard to aim for by the Moving Picture Experts Group or MPEG for short, they wanted to find a way to put the amount of audio & video data of a large LaserDisc (several gigabytes of analogue data) onto a CD sized disc. VideoCD was limited to half a movie per disc due to the limitations of CD being 650-700MB per disc and the inefficient MPEG 1 codec compression.
So they teamed up with Philips, who had invented the Compact Disc and Sony to find a solution. After almost 5 years of research they came up with not only a new video codec in the shape of MPEG 2, but a new type of disc that could hold an entire compressed movie in relatively high quality. Although the first version of DVD could only contain 4.5 GB of data per side, which meant that movies with a long run time could not fit on just one side and had to flipped over, so early DVDs were known as "flipper discs."
It would be several years later that this newly founded DVD Consortium (made up of the MPEG team, Philips & Sony initially) would come up with dual layer technology and the tech to make DVD-R discs for recording purposes, although it was initially for use in PCs only.
@frommatorav1 don't forget VideoCDs as well, which superceded DVDs and has similar MPEG 1 (VHS quality) encoding technology. LaserDisc was seen as a standard to aim for by the Moving Picture Experts Group or MPEG for short, they wanted to find a way to put the amount of audio & video data of a large LaserDisc (several gigabytes of analogue data) onto a CD sized disc. VideoCD was limited to half a movie per disc due to the limitations of CD being 650-700MB per disc and the inefficient MPEG 1 codec compression.
So they teamed up with Philips, who had invented the Compact Disc and Sony to find a solution. After almost 5 years of research they came up with not only a new video codec in the shape of MPEG 2, but a new type of disc that could hold an entire compressed movie in relatively high quality. Although the first version of DVD could only contain 4.5 GB of data per side, which meant that movies with a long run time could not fit on just one side and had to flipped over, so early DVDs were known as "flipper discs."
It would be several years later that this newly founded DVD Consortium (made up of the MPEG team, Philips & Sony initially) would come up with dual layer technology and the tech to make DVD-R discs for recording purposes, although it was initially for use in PCs only.
If we're talking obscure tech, He didn't talk about D-VHS, Quality so good it can look on par with Blu-ray in some cases, Some early Blu-ray transfers were based on D-VHS copies since they lost original film prints
I ditched streaming and got back into physical this year zero regrets audio and video is worlds better and its easier for me to find great films on physical too instead of being force fed whatever new garbage each streaming service is pushing at the moment.
I did so too and so agree with you.
The industry's abandonment of physical media has always baffled me. When streaming options led to the inevitable decrease in DVD/Blu-Ray sales, they declared the medium dead. Just...throw away all those potential sales instead of making the logical choice, which is cutting physical media prices. Blu-Rays cost less than $5 to produce, DVDs less than that, yet the few that are still on the shelf, studios are still haplessly trying to sell them at the old overinflated prices when demand is too low to support that price point. Even making a new DVD top out at $10, that's still a decent profit. New Blu-Rays at this point shouldn't be over $15 unless its some packed collector's edition, yet here we are.
i miss constantly looking at the cover art and just going through the extras menus trying to find content
Weirdly enough 480 p isn't that bad for me I feel how its naturally intended to watch
just no
It isn't that bad bro, it's ok@@colinthornborrow
Dvds haven't declined at all still outsell blu ray and 4k blu ray I still buy them for latest releases
People buying DVDs is actually the same reason why people stream content online. People don't care about having the highest quality.
DVDs look amazing on crt
They're still selling DVDs. I think a lot of people understand the non-permanence of digital and want a disc, but probably never upgraded from DVD to Blu-ray or 4K and so it's familiarity that's keeping the format alive. There are also quite a few DVDs that have special edition or extended cuts, or different audio tracks and extras that make them worth getting over the Blu-ray or 4K.
I like getting dvds and blurays for cheap and then trying to use h265 to get the entire movie and all of its extras to fit onto little 8cm miniDVDs
It's such a fun process. I even make icons, M3U playlists, and even the little ini files that add a description to the CD drive in explorer 😄
The funnest challenge I've ever done is get an entire(13 episode) TV show season onto one, in 720p HD. With its extras and everything. I can't imagine how good AV1 would be for this since miniDVDs are only about 1.4GB but well.. I can't do AV1 yet. 🥀
Sounds fun. I love projects like that
I have been buying up every single movie released on 3D Blu-ray since the format is now in hospice mode lol. I've had a total blast watching movies I never would have otherwise, and have been making bit-perfect backups for digital preservation. Hopefully others like me keep supporting releases!
Easy sub right here, very good video.
DVD may be capped at 480p but it still looks better than streaming!!!
Not my streaming. Bluray looks as good as streaming much of the time, but not DVD.
@ I appreciate the satire you’re very funny
I started buying DVDs in 2004. The only movies in my collection that are Blu-rays are a few movies that were left on DVD in 4:3 and those discs I just put in their DVD clamshells.
Whether it's music, movies, or tv, I'll always prefer physical media.
The background music is giving me flashbacks 🫣
I hate modern Netflix it no longer has the older Seasons of Thomas
right after watching this I placed an order for a tv show on Bluray.
What are you talking about, I still ADORE DVD, BD-DVD AND 4kDVD
1:40 the talk tuah podcast 😂😂😂 great easter egg
"most tvs are 4k today" brother... Please...
Oscar, I BEG OF YOU, to make a video on Pokemon talk, a youtube plush series by MANDJTV, it was a great fucking series I used to binge when I was younger
Bluray and 4K Bluray aren't necessarily on the decline. The number of releases per year has actually gone up pretty consistently since 2016 (for 4K at least)
DVDs certainly didn't 'instantly' replace VHS, from the mid 90s when it launched until 2003, DVDs continued to lag behind VHS as the main media format. Stuff like the PS2 launch and the terrible quality of the third Harry Potter movie on VHS are usually cited as reasons why people (and studios) began to migrate hard in the mid 00s.
You see, if the streaming services bothered to put on the bonus features under the “extras” section of the selected movie- maybe I wouldn’t be so surprised when I turn on a movie I want to watch and scroll through the extras only to be greeted by “View a promo of this release” on my screen.
I was born in 2003 and I'm a fan of LaserDisc.
Now that Redbox is over, I am hamstrung for getting DVDs. I used to copy them to my Beta machine so I could only pay for 1 night and watch them later.
Rip them to a computer HDD, to watch later. Much better quality than Beta. Blurays blow away Beta and DVD quality.
I used to do that... 15+ years ago. Time to adapt.
So you own "Mean Girls" on vhs, dvd and 4k?
Even with this digital revolution we are in my family still ask why I still collect movies on dvd blu ray and in 4K even though I have bad internet connections and bad broadband width but I still love collecting movies
#SavePhysicalMedia
I still use dvds
Except for the fact that DVD sales make up the bulk of physical media purchases and are up year over year. Troll alert.
@@Anonymous-wb3nz did u just call somebody a troll in 2024?💀
Awesome vid
I mostly used Blu-rays instead of DVDs 🤷 DVDs should have been obsolete a long time ago
DVDs are cheaper, it's as simple as that.
I've always been of the opinion that stand alone DVD releases should have been obsolete a long time ago. With how common the Bluray plus DVD combo packs are, those should have been the basic standard while stand alone DVDs should have been phased out. People would still have their DVDs with the option of upgrading to a bluray player.
putting out a bluray title isnt that easy. its a pricey thing to rescan many movies.
Had to slip Talk Tuah in there. I see you
I still watch DVDs (in addition to Blu-Rays) but, these days, I pretty much only watch DVDs on the same 13-inch Macbook Pro screen on which I am typing this comment and, on a 13-inch screen, DVDs still look pretty good (especially considering that I think there's some upscaling going on either with the Mac itself or within VLC).
I find that DVDs still look great, not feeling the 480p at all. More like £4.80p in Oxfam. ...For many.
this happened to me with Beetlejuice and Gladiator
People should be buying Blurays and not DVD. I've kept my DVDs but I don't understand why people still buy them. I understand not everyone needs 4k UHD BDs but bluray should be the new minimum. DVD is legitimately bad on a large 4k TV. DVD is way better than VHS but that isn't saying much. Used blurays are also very cheap.
DVD also doesn't keep up with streaming quality with a good internet connection. Bluray is normally equal or better than streaming.
I've lived through all these formats and prefer the better looking formats over the older ones. I believe there is a huge difference in DVD quality to HD Bluray quality on just about any 1080P HD or 4k TV, which bothers me that all (or at least most) consumers don't buy Bluray. It's especially noticeable with TVs over 50".
With the right equip, the upgrade to 4k HDR physical media is well worth it too, but only on OLED and high end LED TVs. If you don't have the best TV, the upgrade is much less noticeable.
The audio is also way better than on streaming or on DVD, so with the right AVR and speakers or soundbar, the movie experience is much better and immersive.
I will choose DVDs over Blu-rays any day.
9:18 You got me dude lol
When i rent or buy dvds, i rip them to MP4. It keeps the movies and special features intact, no problems with scratching, and i can throw them onto a flash drive and play them on my smart TV. 🙂
But anything from DVDs is still utterly trash quality by 2024 standards. Even by 2014 standards.
@tardistrailers if you say so 🙂 to me VHS is trash.
@@marccaselle8108 You're both right.
I like 📀 DVD myself. But even I can't ignore the advantages of being able to instantly buy films via Amazon. 🤔 Shrugs. 🤔
Love my DVD collocation and some movie having be update Blu-ray
The end of a age
No it's not.
Can't understand why DVD is still king when it comes to physical media? With alot of movies and shows, especially TV series still getting DVD only releases. Loved the 2 TED movies but didn't even know there was A TED TV series. Shows how much these streaming services don't promote there shows. Or alot of times even care to release it physically.
fucking DDLC jumpscare in the beginning of the video
Streaming services being way too much is no longer a hot take. But people are too attached to convenience and on demand, I guess? I don't get it personally, I'm a blu-ray user and i'm doin' just fine on a shoestring budget
Still waiting for the American release of the Damn Haikyuu Blu-ray
I have some DVDs and Videocassettes and Don’t worry, I have a Disney+ account so I can watch The Rescuers Down Under.
Great video
But even though at least half the stuff on Netflix isn’t on 4K…I only the originals are in 4K?!!
I guess this is aimed at 12 year olds?
i remember this things
They lose money with streaming which is why they added ads. I would definitely pay $4 or even $5 for a new release DVD That is us due in 3 days to avoid ads and not need Internet.
6:18 I thought they didn’t release this on Blu-ray in the UK?
0:25 Blu ray exists