Thag sounds like something someone would say in an episode of Big Bang Theory. Then, people would calm down until Sheldon goes "Yeah but I'm right" then conflict would start again.
Back before Disney, Star Trek vs Star Wars was always a big debate between sci-fi fans. Then they both seemed to have signed a peace treaty to join forces against JJ Abrams.
@@Tim23Vicious Guess that explains why the best roast came from SW side I mean seriously "Just respect data and don't be racist to alien, there I solved Star Trek" you just roasted them 😂
The main difference between sci-fi and fantasy is that fantasy says "it's magic bro" and sci-fi says "it's not magic, its science, bro. But for all intents and purposes, its basically just magic"
I definitely agree from a writing stand point. It's won't be very compelling if the audience doesn't understand the magic or science then one character pulls some random crap and saves the day because what the science or magic can do wasn't set up well. The laws of Brandon Sanderson's magic do a better job explaining it than me with the a brain smother than a space station
It depends on how hard the sci fi is. Cyberpunk is usually pretty hard sci-fi, and doesn't have much in terms of fantasy-elements beyond maybe super-intelligent AIs.
Oh, i really love the comics, but i don't understand why people dislike the Alien vs Predator (Movie 1) I get it that the Alien vs Predator 2 is bad, but, i really like the 1.
@connertomaterhater6691 100% A setting where we can have soulless terminators with technology so advanced its basically magic, and green mushrooms that if they believe in something hard enough it gets conjured into existence.
This feels like it was made a back when hating on the politics of the Prequels was the cool thing to do. But then after the Sequels came out and had a supreme lack of any insight on the politics of the galaxy (besides a very minor part in Last Jedi), people started to appreciate them more in both the Prequels and the episodes of Clone Wars that put more focus on said politics. Such as how the cost of the Clones was proving detrimental to the citizens of the Republic. But Star Trek (at least from my understanding, it could’ve changed with future shows or movies) gets mostly praise for their portrayal of space politics.
"Gentleman, let's calm down We can at least agree that you're both soft sci-fi with foolishly pretentious world-building yet highly entertaining and engaging storytelling, right?" Cue entreprise/death star mutual destruction and picard arguing with vader in the space wreckage
@@aliceakosota797 oh sht Apparently they're called Dropout now But no it still exists , it's just 10 years old so it's hard to find th-cam.com/video/gd5yB9Vmd6I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=3aMksXb_a1-1eGNs (I highly doubt that link is gonna work)
@@aliceakosota797 my comment got removed for adding the link, nice But no. They go by Dropout now. You can look up the title of this video with "college humor" and it should pop up
Meanwhile an ancient cathedral shaped ship barrels towards them. Slaves who have never seen the light of day shovel their friend’s corpses into engines which nobody knows how to work anymore. Through the vessel’s twisted halls echoes a chant, BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!”
Not gonna lie this is kinda funny. I mean i'm definitely on the side of Trek when it comes to Star Wars being a bit simple, but i do have to admit the fights are kinda fun to watch. Star Trek is engaging in a philosophical way, and Star Wars is engaging in a dumb fun way, but they're both quite engaging.
@@sovietunion7643 We need optimistic views for the future. The alternative is despair. No thanks, i'd rather have a piece of media to aspire towards in real life, than yet another dystopian "you can't fix anything anyway" setting.
"Your special effects are lame" The updated vfx for a new hope added praxis rings to the death star explosion after they were used in star trek 6. ILM did a ton of work for both star wars and star trek, so they shared a lot of vfx tricks in their respective movies. The two series are ironically linked together by a company that was owned by george lucas.
I would argue that it's the opposite, you need to be a huge nerd to get all that technobabble from Star Trek while being a star wars geek just gives you cool merch and lightsabers
@hufnaaratnaaf do we have strict definitions for what a geek vs a nerd is? I always assumed people just went with the one they thought sounded better? Like they would say I'm not a geek I'm a nerd but not really have a strict definition. Though I might just be projecting I think that's what I did. Nerd and geek culture is getting more main stream and it's easy for people to find a niche on the internet
@@Flamewolf14 Yeah nerd is more related to intellectual while geek is more related to emotional, like a nerd would delve into the history and lore of a show they like while a geek would buy all the merch of that show and dress as the characters So Star Trek is often nerdier as it has an entire language you can readily learn and Star Wars tends to be geekier because it has very iconic characters and items for people to want to play with
I yearn for star wars to show us a galaxy in a feudal states type of era where we have more than 3 factions fighting over dominance in a rapid series of small isolated wars over multiple generations, with each faction specializing in different things Wait a minute. I just described warhammer.
Star Wars and Star Trek aren't enemies. They're best friends. Comrades. Lovers even. Star Wars and Star Trek are making out in the bathroom at the party while Dune gives a 40 minute speech about why it's better than everything else while also being the most boring fucking thing in existence.
Star Trek enjoyers who know the universal truth of the franchise: Garak is precious 🌸 Star Wars enjoyers who know the universal truth of the franchise: THE STAR WARS GALAXY IS A DYSTOPIAN HELLISH NIGHTMARE! THE FORCE ROBS YOU OF ANY CHANCE OF BEING HUMAN! YOU HAVE NO AGENCY! IF YOU EVER EAT CHOCOLATE YOU BECOME HITLER!
I love both the Star Trek and Star Wars but I agree the Force rules!!!! If the Star Wars universe ever got into a fight with Star Trek then Star Trek would lose against the Force, Vuzhon Kong, Death Stars and the plethora of cosmic eldritch entities that are there in Star Wars but nobody really knows
Meanwhile Final Fantasy 7 Remake: Idk why we're fighting against corpos responsible for impending doom, or how the Lifestream came about and how it powers the world, but tifa and aerith is hot, altho basically everything you see is hot, and despite the side quests, you could argue that our world runs on hotness.
Sci-fi didn't really distinguish itself from fantasy until the 60s or so when spaceflight was on everyone's minds. Even in the aughts I remember sci-fi and fantasy was basically the same shelf at Borders.
Funnily enough, the main reason I like the OG trilogy of Star Wars (The good part) is because it's the closest it's ever felt to being like Star Trek. The OG trilogy has much less of the braindead flashing lights Star Wars would unfortunately come to be known for and more intelligent dialogue that feels like actual adults talking to each other. It just has this air of Sophistication to it.
A proton torpedo didn't do any damage when it impacted on the surface of a battle station. Photon torpedoes are antimatter bombs travelling at relativistic speeds, and perforate Borg cubes.
@@davidwuhrer6704 looking it up, the Borg Cubes seem to be nowhere near the size of the Death Star, so the DS probably has thicker armor and better shields than the BC, meaning just because the photon torpedo perforated a BC (the first few times) doesn't mean it could do the same to the DS. If we take the sizes of ship each is launched from into account (a ship, at most, a bit more than 1/3 the length of a Star Destroyer for Star Trek ships, and something that's about the size of a fighter plane for Star Wars ships) and assume torpedo sizes from that, as well as assuming that bigger = more damage, then the photon torpedo probably does do more damage. But honestly, we'd need something that both Photon and Proton torpedos have hit to make a good comparison. Also I wanna complain about naming a bit. If the photon torpedo is an antimatter bomb, then why isn't it called an antimatter torpedo? And, iirc, a proton is essentially an anti electron, so a proton torpedo would also be an antimatter bomb I think?
@@blehbleh8552 Protons are not anti-electrons. An anti-electron is called a positron. Protons are baryons, made of quarks and gluons, they have much more mass than electrons. There is no explanation for what a proton torpedo is or why it is called that. Photon torpedoes are described, and one is shown in the films, but the name is never explained. Maybe it's because matter-antimatter reactions result in gamma radiation, which is photons. One proton torpedo impacted near the exhaust port and did no damage. The exhaust port is two metres across, nowhere near the size of a Galaxy class ship.
Star Wars is a T2 galactic civilization Star Trek is T1. (Military Force Projection.) The only thing Star Trek has that Star Wars doesn’t that is remotely viable are Teliporters
Star Trek has the transporter, holodecks, replicators, computers, god-like alien beings, galactic level threats, and warp drives that can cross lightyears in minutes. Also phasers, shields, photon torpedoes, dilithium crystals, the actual Klingon language, actual astronomy, and did I mention replicators? Star Wars has the Force, laser swords, lightsabers, turbo lasers, blasters, droids, death stars, star destroyers, super star destroyers, TIE fighters, proton torpedoes, Sith lords, kyber crystals, hyperspace where the fastest ship goes 1.5 times light speed, and lasers. To quote from The Outrageous Okona: Lasers‽
Because watching nothing but goofy youtube goobilltiguk all today long can't be good for him. Trying to get him to just sit down and watch a movie is an uphill battle Also whats with the spam reply
UFO and Doctor Who nodding in the background. Red Dwarf looking confused. ST:TOS remastered looking smugly at the SW Special Editions, although nobody knows why.
Star trek doesnt need action to be interesting Star wars is for everyone who wants to watch a fun sci fi action movie Star trek is for people who want to watch serious sci fi adventures and politics
I think Star Wars and Star Trek go hand-in-hand. They are the definition of sci-fi. Sure, one at be different than the other, but can’t we all just agree that they both have good qualities? Think about it. Star Trek walked so Star Wars could run, and in turn Star Wars revived as the sci-fi genre, and so Star Trek was revived too, introducing a new generation to Star Trek and all its goodness. They’re both awesome: I say we Star Wars and Star Trek fans should unite! Because at the end of the day, they’re both THE undisputed kings of Sci-Fi. Now, let’s set aside our lightsabers and set our phasers from Kill to, well, nothing, and go hop in our spaceships and have a nice chat. I’ll drink my Blue Milk, and you can drink some Saurian Brandy (or Romulan Ale if you prefer).
Meanwhile a bunch of large asteroids with rockets is heading towards the Death Star and Enterprise-D, and if you listen closely you can hear the faint sounds of "WAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!".
From The Empire Strikes Back, Star Wars had The Force and Force ghosts. The original film had mentalist tricks passed off as actual magic powers by a hobo who was later killed in a duel. By comparison, the geometrically growing psychic powers in Where No Man has Gone Before (on a lifeless planet full of trees) is inexplicable magic. Ignoring this second Star Trek pilot, and long at Star Wars from the second film onward, Star Wars has deliberately inexplicable magic while Star Trek has technobabble.
@@davidwuhrer6704 Interesting that the first episode of each series started off opposite of what the series would later become, in terms of scientific explanation.
@@krakenmahboy Is that so? Some episodes of Star Trek try to work in scientific explanations, but most don't. Where No Man Has Gone Before does, with its references to mathematics and psychology. Back then, things like mind reading and clairvoyance were still the subject of active research. However, the approach to working cutting edge science into the series was often based on a fundamental misunderstanding of hypotheses. Or as Spock says in The Alternative Factor: "Science has conceded the possibility." And Where No Man Has Gone Before is the second pilot. The Cage was first. Star Wars never bothered with science or plausibility. The laser swords aren't swords, or lasers; the turbo lasers aren't lasers either. Nothing really makes sense. How long does it take the Millennium Falcon to go from Tatooine to Alderaan at 1½ times the speed of light? How many parsecs is that? Between The Star Wars and Episode V, a lot of things were changed. Foremost, Darth Vader, the treacherous henchman, became a military leader of his own, and the unseen figurehead emperor became a pro-actively scheming politician. That the Force became a tangible force is not even the biggest inconsistency: Changing the dialogue and adding a voice-over in post-production had already opened the possibility, even if the plot doesn't support it.
@@Tim23Vicious Not gonna lie, aside from the fact I've seen the "Star Wars" movies more than enough times, when it comes to Star Trek, I only have seen "Wrath of Khan", and the new Star Trek Trilogy ("Into Darkness" was great); maybe eventually I'll get into the older series. It's kinda funny, but for me, older movies of that kind of quality tend to be hard to put on the TV, but once they are actually on, they get better.
A friend of mine described it to me pretty well as a kid you have to be a mega nerd to like Star Trek internal magical space wizards with laser swords in Star Trek
As someone who has consumed basically all forms of media from both franchises, I'll give the following short verdict. Corny and lame soap operas, with neither respecting the laws of nature in space which makes both unscientific fiction.
im sorry but trek is incredibly deep politically and socially, just because it didn't show the enterprise taking thousands of years to pass between two solar systems doesen't mean its entire message is inert
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People, calm down. We're all nerds here
Thag sounds like something someone would say in an episode of Big Bang Theory. Then, people would calm down until Sheldon goes "Yeah but I'm right" then conflict would start again.
@@AlexandreSardeiro you are absolutely right
@@AlexandreSardeiroAs a big bang theory fan, this is exactly what would happen, except the episode would end before it would flare up again
Oh my sweet precious nerds if only we can go back in time and warn us of the "mainstream infiltraters" that corrupted our beloved franchise...🥲
I'm not. I had sex with a real live woman once.
This might be the only time I've ever actually seen Star Wars fans arguing with Star Trek fans instead of each other, if you can count it that is.
@@kadelin3318 I'm the only Star wars fan in a family full of trekies trust me these fights are real 🤣
Back before Disney, Star Trek vs Star Wars was always a big debate between sci-fi fans. Then they both seemed to have signed a peace treaty to join forces against JJ Abrams.
@@Tim23Vicious Guess that explains why the best roast came from SW side I mean seriously "Just respect data and don't be racist to alien, there I solved Star Trek" you just roasted them 😂
I don't understand your comment. It just looks like you've repeated yourself.
@@cumulus1869 They're referring to how nowadays usually you see Star wars fans arguing with themselves rather than arguing against Star Trek fans.
The main difference between sci-fi and fantasy is that fantasy says "it's magic bro" and sci-fi says "it's not magic, its science, bro. But for all intents and purposes, its basically just magic"
Then is fantasy sci-fi a mix?
@@odstithink yeah. Like star wars. Its got parts that are just magic and parts that try and explain things with science.
Star wars is pretty much just fantasy set in space, though, that's pretty overtly stated.
I definitely agree from a writing stand point. It's won't be very compelling if the audience doesn't understand the magic or science then one character pulls some random crap and saves the day because what the science or magic can do wasn't set up well. The laws of Brandon Sanderson's magic do a better job explaining it than me with the a brain smother than a space station
It depends on how hard the sci fi is. Cyberpunk is usually pretty hard sci-fi, and doesn't have much in terms of fantasy-elements beyond maybe super-intelligent AIs.
"What IS Alien?"
"The Dark Horse comics and the original two movies "
And Isolation, Romulus, and hopefully Rogue Incursion
Never have I seen something I agree with much.
I will die on that hill. Although I like Jango Fett very much
@@barragethree5047 Romulus is garbage; its like the TFA of Alien
@@timewarpdrive77 an immensely bold statement but I'm willing to hear you out
Oh, i really love the comics, but i don't understand why people dislike the Alien vs Predator (Movie 1)
I get it that the Alien vs Predator 2 is bad, but, i really like the 1.
Meanwhile warhammer 40k: I know it’s dumb and doesn’t make any sense but I really don’t care chainsaw sword go brrrr
"At least we can agree that 40k is WAAAY nerdier than us both."
40k fans: "Yes, and that's exactly how we want it. FOR THE EMPEROR!"
@@flapperofwar7445 the way it should be where I can enjoy science mumbo jumbo and space magic.
@connertomaterhater6691 100% A setting where we can have soulless terminators with technology so advanced its basically magic, and green mushrooms that if they believe in something hard enough it gets conjured into existence.
@@flapperofwar7445 I love the Orks WAAGH energy is wonderful
@connertomaterhater6691 Indeed. They have some of the funniest lore and memes
Meanwhile Doctor Who is just eating Jelly Babies and watching the drama unfold.
The Emperor of Man: *silently rattles wanting some of the Doctor's candies, but can't have them because he's too bony"
More likely each of the Doctors arguing with one another over the stylistic choices of their respective eras
@@qwertyuio404 Ah yes all 18ish versions of The Doctor stuck in the Tardis console room agreeing and bickering with themselves
@@The_Blue_Otaku 2 and 3
Thats all im saying😂
@@themightybob a dandy and a clown indeed
This feels like it was made a back when hating on the politics of the Prequels was the cool thing to do. But then after the Sequels came out and had a supreme lack of any insight on the politics of the galaxy (besides a very minor part in Last Jedi), people started to appreciate them more in both the Prequels and the episodes of Clone Wars that put more focus on said politics. Such as how the cost of the Clones was proving detrimental to the citizens of the Republic. But Star Trek (at least from my understanding, it could’ve changed with future shows or movies) gets mostly praise for their portrayal of space politics.
It feels like that because it is. I think early 2010s?
This is stolen from College Humor(now Dropout) and their video is dated June 12 2015.
Nothing will ever make me appreciate the politics of the prequel, nor anything from the prequel that is'nt the music
"Gentleman, let's calm down
We can at least agree that you're both soft sci-fi with foolishly pretentious world-building yet highly entertaining and engaging storytelling, right?"
Cue entreprise/death star mutual destruction and picard arguing with vader in the space wreckage
Well at least you're not asking them to unite against A common enemy.... The Judean people's front!
@@Tim23Vicious😂😂😂
@@Tim23Vicious
That is such a good reference!
@@Tim23Viciousmuch like the Spanish inquisition, I was not expecting that
@@Tim23Vicious
Wait that's us! ...or are we the people's front of judea?
Original creator is CollegeHumor btw
Edit: they go by Dropout now but the video still exists
Was this video taken down or something?
@@aliceakosota797 oh sht
Apparently they're called Dropout now
But no it still exists , it's just 10 years old so it's hard to find
th-cam.com/video/gd5yB9Vmd6I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=3aMksXb_a1-1eGNs
(I highly doubt that link is gonna work)
@@aliceakosota797 my comment got removed for adding the link, nice
But no. They go by Dropout now. You can look up the title of this video with "college humor" and it should pop up
@aliceakosota797 Nope, it's still up on the original account (since rebranded to Dropout after CH went down the pan).
@@TrollDecker whatever happened to the name Collegehumor? I haven't kept up w them in a bit
Riker trying to heroically pose on literally everything is hilarious.
I remember this video from years ago. Who was the original animator?
college humor
The current channel title is Dropout, watched it like 10 seconds ago.
"Star wars or star trek?"
As Henry Cavil once said:
"Stargate"
Goated show.
1:33 W roast 🗿
The first 2 and 9/10ths Mass Effect games are legitimate. We don't talk about the rest.
Marauder Shields is my favourite character.
only the first
Someone found an old CollegeHumor video I see
Okay how about this then: Stargate.
@@endarus6053 *darth vader voice* doesn't count 🤣 sorry couldn't help myself but in all seriousness I absolutely love Stargate so I'm cool with it
Stargate is chad Sci-Fi.
Odyssey's probably cloaked somewhere in the vicinity
Yay Stargate was mentioned!
Probably best to not bring the ancient horse into this.
Meanwhile an ancient cathedral shaped ship barrels towards them. Slaves who have never seen the light of day shovel their friend’s corpses into engines which nobody knows how to work anymore. Through the vessel’s twisted halls echoes a chant, BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!”
Not gonna lie this is kinda funny. I mean i'm definitely on the side of Trek when it comes to Star Wars being a bit simple, but i do have to admit the fights are kinda fun to watch. Star Trek is engaging in a philosophical way, and Star Wars is engaging in a dumb fun way, but they're both quite engaging.
Star trek is way too optimistic of a view on the future of the galaxy tho, there should be WAY more conflict like star wars does
@@sovietunion7643 We need optimistic views for the future. The alternative is despair. No thanks, i'd rather have a piece of media to aspire towards in real life, than yet another dystopian "you can't fix anything anyway" setting.
@@sovietunion7643Warhammer 40k is a more realistic future, tbh
@@joda7697haha and Star wars is for children? You cant even see i to the future with looking at a Utopia
@@The_Squatch_97 The one with actual literal magic and space orcs?!
"Your special effects are lame"
The updated vfx for a new hope added praxis rings to the death star explosion after they were used in star trek 6. ILM did a ton of work for both star wars and star trek, so they shared a lot of vfx tricks in their respective movies.
The two series are ironically linked together by a company that was owned by george lucas.
Both are good for different reasons, and both have really gone downhill recently compared to the older stuff
Spaceballs:🗿🥃
Star Wars is nerdier, star treck is geekier
I would argue that it's the opposite, you need to be a huge nerd to get all that technobabble from Star Trek while being a star wars geek just gives you cool merch and lightsabers
@hufnaaratnaaf do we have strict definitions for what a geek vs a nerd is? I always assumed people just went with the one they thought sounded better? Like they would say I'm not a geek I'm a nerd but not really have a strict definition. Though I might just be projecting I think that's what I did. Nerd and geek culture is getting more main stream and it's easy for people to find a niche on the internet
Those are basically the same thing.
@@Flamewolf14
Yeah nerd is more related to intellectual while geek is more related to emotional, like a nerd would delve into the history and lore of a show they like while a geek would buy all the merch of that show and dress as the characters
So Star Trek is often nerdier as it has an entire language you can readily learn and Star Wars tends to be geekier because it has very iconic characters and items for people to want to play with
Star Wars is NATO, Star Trek is the UN.
The consecutive *RIKER MANUVERS* killed me😂
Meanwhile me as a Stargate fan: "Can we please finish Stargate universe? Please? I promise we'll watch it this time!"
Well at least both fandoms can agree the newer shows aren’t very good
Then SG-1 pops by and goes: "Ladies, relax. We're all nerds here, so let's just have fun."
Very O'Neill. 😎
...with two L's.
Meanwhile, Stargate in the corner: "Aww..." 😢
By the time the argument is done between Picard and Vader, SG-1 has already boarded both their ships and gated back to Earth!
**Roci swoops by and shreds the Enterprise and the Death Star with hard-physic tungsten slugs**
Star Trek and Star Wars: arguably fighting
Star Blazers: (Eating and Drinking in the background)
Dang that's an old reference!
Average Star Trek fan: 🤓
Average Star Wars enjoyer: 🍷🗿
Depends how into it you are lol
The senate thing is somewhat well written politics
Meanwhile Star Trek politics: "why can't we be friends?"
I love the inplication of Vader living and just spiting them while flying off into space lmao
I yearn for star wars to show us a galaxy in a feudal states type of era where we have more than 3 factions fighting over dominance in a rapid series of small isolated wars over multiple generations, with each faction specializing in different things
Wait a minute. I just described warhammer.
Star Wars and Star Trek aren't enemies. They're best friends. Comrades. Lovers even.
Star Wars and Star Trek are making out in the bathroom at the party while Dune gives a 40 minute speech about why it's better than everything else while also being the most boring fucking thing in existence.
Well, Star Wars is just a shallow Dune knock-off, with Valerian thrown in for set dressing.
Stargate, because every answer involves C4
A person of class, I see.
I do enjoy how this meme fight got the power scaling right. I also enjoy that Vader won the roast-off. Very fun video all around
Star Trek enjoyers who know the universal truth of the franchise:
Garak is precious 🌸
Star Wars enjoyers who know the universal truth of the franchise:
THE STAR WARS GALAXY IS A DYSTOPIAN HELLISH NIGHTMARE! THE FORCE ROBS YOU OF ANY CHANCE OF BEING HUMAN! YOU HAVE NO AGENCY! IF YOU EVER EAT CHOCOLATE YOU BECOME HITLER!
I love both Star Trek and Star Wars...
And this is hilariously accurate
I miss this time period. These nerds were the best of us.
Ryker needing to do the Captain Morgan pose! 😂😂😂
True inner peace is realizing that they're both awesome
Havent seen this in years. Glad to see it's aged well
And Vader somehow survived that
Well… at least we have Doctor Who!
I love both the Star Trek and Star Wars but I agree the Force rules!!!! If the Star Wars universe ever got into a fight with Star Trek then Star Trek would lose against the Force, Vuzhon Kong, Death Stars and the plethora of cosmic eldritch entities that are there in Star Wars but nobody really knows
...
"Vuzohn......Kong"
Yuzaan Vong don't count. They're lame as fuck.
Q would beat them all to be honest.
*yuuzhan vong*
@@zetester98isn’t q incredibly unprofessional
"The clone wars cartoon and the original movies. Except the Ewoks." This checks out and the most correct statement ever made about starwars.
John Luc Picard looking like Caillou 😏
I was gonna say 😂
Riker's Captain Morgan pose gets me every time.
I love both franchises, and this is funny as heck! 😆😆😆
Meanwhile Final Fantasy 7 Remake: Idk why we're fighting against corpos responsible for impending doom, or how the Lifestream came about and how it powers the world, but tifa and aerith is hot, altho basically everything you see is hot, and despite the side quests, you could argue that our world runs on hotness.
It’s like Anakin briefly came back just to troll Picard
What about stargate?
Oh this is such a fun video
a certified hood classic
Vader is the dude you want to hang around with.
As a person who’s watching both TNG and Clone Wars rn I confirm everything in this vid is true
Star Trek: Interesting
Star Wats: Epic
Sci-fi didn't really distinguish itself from fantasy until the 60s or so when spaceflight was on everyone's minds. Even in the aughts I remember sci-fi and fantasy was basically the same shelf at Borders.
And me... Over here... Enjoying both.
And I love the pseudoscience stuff. Gets the imagination going.
I love how they fight like people in comment sections
Funnily enough, the main reason I like the OG trilogy of Star Wars (The good part) is because it's the closest it's ever felt to being like Star Trek.
The OG trilogy has much less of the braindead flashing lights Star Wars would unfortunately come to be known for and more intelligent dialogue that feels like actual adults talking to each other.
It just has this air of Sophistication to it.
Star Trek or Star Wars? The answer is simple. Babylon 5.
I actually wonder which would be more destructive, a proton torpedo or a photon torpedo?
A proton torpedo didn't do any damage when it impacted on the surface of a battle station.
Photon torpedoes are antimatter bombs travelling at relativistic speeds, and perforate Borg cubes.
@@davidwuhrer6704 looking it up, the Borg Cubes seem to be nowhere near the size of the Death Star, so the DS probably has thicker armor and better shields than the BC, meaning just because the photon torpedo perforated a BC (the first few times) doesn't mean it could do the same to the DS.
If we take the sizes of ship each is launched from into account (a ship, at most, a bit more than 1/3 the length of a Star Destroyer for Star Trek ships, and something that's about the size of a fighter plane for Star Wars ships) and assume torpedo sizes from that, as well as assuming that bigger = more damage, then the photon torpedo probably does do more damage. But honestly, we'd need something that both Photon and Proton torpedos have hit to make a good comparison.
Also I wanna complain about naming a bit. If the photon torpedo is an antimatter bomb, then why isn't it called an antimatter torpedo? And, iirc, a proton is essentially an anti electron, so a proton torpedo would also be an antimatter bomb I think?
@@blehbleh8552 Protons are not anti-electrons. An anti-electron is called a positron. Protons are baryons, made of quarks and gluons, they have much more mass than electrons.
There is no explanation for what a proton torpedo is or why it is called that. Photon torpedoes are described, and one is shown in the films, but the name is never explained. Maybe it's because matter-antimatter reactions result in gamma radiation, which is photons.
One proton torpedo impacted near the exhaust port and did no damage. The exhaust port is two metres across, nowhere near the size of a Galaxy class ship.
Warhammer fans:
What are they talking about ?
Warhammer fans:
They're working *with* the xenos? Ew.
Heh, wait till Warhammer 40K enters the chat.
this reminds me of the nerd vs geek rap battle
Star Wars is a T2 galactic civilization Star Trek is T1. (Military Force Projection.) The only thing Star Trek has that Star Wars doesn’t that is remotely viable are Teliporters
Star Trek has the transporter, holodecks, replicators, computers, god-like alien beings, galactic level threats, and warp drives that can cross lightyears in minutes. Also phasers, shields, photon torpedoes, dilithium crystals, the actual Klingon language, actual astronomy, and did I mention replicators?
Star Wars has the Force, laser swords, lightsabers, turbo lasers, blasters, droids, death stars, star destroyers, super star destroyers, TIE fighters, proton torpedoes, Sith lords, kyber crystals, hyperspace where the fastest ship goes 1.5 times light speed, and lasers.
To quote from The Outrageous Okona: Lasers‽
Why does this have the same energy as me trying to get my nephew to watch anything other than TH-cam on his freaking iPad
What for?
Because watching nothing but goofy youtube goobilltiguk all today long can't be good for him. Trying to get him to just sit down and watch a movie is an uphill battle
Also whats with the spam reply
@@chief664 There are movies and documentaries on TH-cam.
Everyone is equally a need here
2:33 Yes, it iiiiiiissss.
Gotta agree, the background and special effects can really make or break a sci-fi.
UFO and Doctor Who nodding in the background. Red Dwarf looking confused. ST:TOS remastered looking smugly at the SW Special Editions, although nobody knows why.
Both Star Trek and Star Wars had some terrible special effects, and some great ones. Explosions in space looked pretty terrible in both of them.
Meanwhile, there’s a certain WWII battleship being turned into a spaceship
Star trek doesnt need action to be interesting
Star wars is for everyone who wants to watch a fun sci fi action movie
Star trek is for people who want to watch serious sci fi adventures and politics
I need two more episodes and a corporate buyout that milks this for all it has
The Expanse:
Allow me to introduce myself-
“So what DOES count then?”
“The Clone Wars cartoon and the original movies. Except the Ewoks.”
Well he’s not wrong
The 2003 clone wars cartoon
@@Studiocarre2 both were good
* sniff * this is CINEMA
And then the black templars arrived
Stargate is the best
I like them both for different reasons. I don't understand the conflict.
I think Star Wars and Star Trek go hand-in-hand. They are the definition of sci-fi. Sure, one at be different than the other, but can’t we all just agree that they both have good qualities? Think about it. Star Trek walked so Star Wars could run, and in turn Star Wars revived as the sci-fi genre, and so Star Trek was revived too, introducing a new generation to Star Trek and all its goodness.
They’re both awesome:
I say we Star Wars and Star Trek fans should unite! Because at the end of the day, they’re both THE undisputed kings of Sci-Fi.
Now, let’s set aside our lightsabers and set our phasers from Kill to, well, nothing, and go hop in our spaceships and have a nice chat.
I’ll drink my Blue Milk, and you can drink some Saurian Brandy (or Romulan Ale if you prefer).
"Star Wars is like philosophy for children" You see it's funny because that's the point.
Darth Vaders chest piece is an NES controller
They're dead, Jim. They're both dead.
Damn it, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a hard sci-fi scriptwriter!
Is this a repost? I remember this from so long ago!? Still funny
That was a great laugh
But Stargate is better~
Meanwhile a bunch of large asteroids with rockets is heading towards the Death Star and Enterprise-D, and if you listen closely you can hear the faint sounds of "WAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!".
This screams early 2010s
I think both are nerdish and I'm in for the absurd of both
This is like arguing if Starfox is better than Bucky O'Hare And The Toad Wars.
nah, star trek literally had a real space shuttle named after the enterprise, also star wars ship design is ugly compared to trek
Didn't this video release like years ago?
I saw this before
I always found trek the more magical series and Star Wars more grounded.
Don't you mean the other way around?
From The Empire Strikes Back, Star Wars had The Force and Force ghosts.
The original film had mentalist tricks passed off as actual magic powers by a hobo who was later killed in a duel. By comparison, the geometrically growing psychic powers in Where No Man has Gone Before (on a lifeless planet full of trees) is inexplicable magic.
Ignoring this second Star Trek pilot, and long at Star Wars from the second film onward, Star Wars has deliberately inexplicable magic while Star Trek has technobabble.
@@davidwuhrer6704 Interesting that the first episode of each series started off opposite of what the series would later become, in terms of scientific explanation.
@@krakenmahboy Is that so?
Some episodes of Star Trek try to work in scientific explanations, but most don't. Where No Man Has Gone Before does, with its references to mathematics and psychology. Back then, things like mind reading and clairvoyance were still the subject of active research.
However, the approach to working cutting edge science into the series was often based on a fundamental misunderstanding of hypotheses. Or as Spock says in The Alternative Factor: "Science has conceded the possibility."
And Where No Man Has Gone Before is the second pilot. The Cage was first.
Star Wars never bothered with science or plausibility. The laser swords aren't swords, or lasers; the turbo lasers aren't lasers either. Nothing really makes sense. How long does it take the Millennium Falcon to go from Tatooine to Alderaan at 1½ times the speed of light? How many parsecs is that?
Between The Star Wars and Episode V, a lot of things were changed. Foremost, Darth Vader, the treacherous henchman, became a military leader of his own, and the unseen figurehead emperor became a pro-actively scheming politician. That the Force became a tangible force is not even the biggest inconsistency: Changing the dialogue and adding a voice-over in post-production had already opened the possibility, even if the plot doesn't support it.
star trek is smarter while star wars has more mass-appeal action scenes
"Be nice to Data, and don't be racist to aliens. There. I solved Star Trek."
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@@bridgerhibbert2993 and a family full of Star Trek fans I'm the only Star wars one and they absolutely hate when I pull that line out on them 🤣🤣
@@Tim23Vicious Not gonna lie, aside from the fact I've seen the "Star Wars" movies more than enough times, when it comes to Star Trek, I only have seen "Wrath of Khan", and the new Star Trek Trilogy ("Into Darkness" was great); maybe eventually I'll get into the older series.
It's kinda funny, but for me, older movies of that kind of quality tend to be hard to put on the TV, but once they are actually on, they get better.
IMAO, the best Star Trek movie is Forbidden Planet.
Classic video ❤
Where is the Star Gate community to mediate them
If you immediately know the candlelight is fire, then the meal was cooked a long time ago!
advanced enough tech is magic if you went to cavemen with a flamethrower they would worship you as a god
A friend of mine described it to me pretty well as a kid you have to be a mega nerd to like Star Trek internal magical space wizards with laser swords in Star Trek
I like them both
As someone who has consumed basically all forms of media from both franchises, I'll give the following short verdict. Corny and lame soap operas, with neither respecting the laws of nature in space which makes both unscientific fiction.
im sorry but trek is incredibly deep politically and socially, just because it didn't show the enterprise taking thousands of years to pass between two solar systems doesen't mean its entire message is inert