The actual golden rule of F1: Money won't guarantee you titles, but you can't win any titles without excessive amounts of money. Brawn GP was and always will be the sensation of the century.
This is mighty overblown. Let us not forget when these rules were initially due to come into effect. Teams already had started on them, albeit in a very small way. Basic philosophy is no doubt set since 2020 or earlier.
I absolutely agree. I think most, if not all, teams have really been focused on the new regs since early to mid 2020. That's one of the reasons that teams were required to use carry-overs as there were complaints from all teams that they'd already started developing for the new regs originally set to begin at the start of 2021 and millions had already been spent on the new designs. They couldn't possibly be able to start 2021 with underdeveloped cars so they had to carry-overs the 2019 machines, albeit with some minor changes.
@@Dick.n.B-RockShow, I agree with everything you said apart from the carry-over car having minor changes. The cut to the rear floor the reg change stipulated they make was a big change.
@@Dick.n.B-RockShow no after the rules got pushed back all development for 2022 was banned until Jan 2021 and only the minimal work had been done before that came in.
I don't care who ends up in front, I just hope it's a fight with at least three teams. It would be so disappointing to see Merc finish 20 seconds ahead in Bahrain.
Nah, not really. It was for Mercedes last year but other than engines, everyone gets a completely fresh start, no limited homologation like last year. If Ferrari, Alpine and McLaren, have done a good enough job with the extra time they had, RBR and Mercedes back foot will be miles behind, not ahead. Especially RBR.
People forget that RedBull has Newey. The new season regs will reward excellent aerodynamic engineering. I am confident that Merc, RB, Ferrari will all be very close.
Newey cannot do on his own. Only when Honda kicked in, RB was competitive. Given 2021. performance, you can't really say that Mercedes has "worse" aero. Especially now when they could start over and move away (maybe) from low rake. And on engine, Lewis and Valtteri spent 11 engines while Max and Sergio 8 (like everyone else), so they played with more aggressive ECU mapping, but that does not mean Honda cannot do the same.
@@GranDaddo Given the new regs and under floor downforce prominence, most are assuming that it's more likely that ALL teams will now move towards low (or at least, lower) rake. So the question is... Does Merc have an advantage from the fact they've been using that approach for longer? Or does Red Bull have the advantage in that they approach these new regs with fresher eyes on a low-rake concept instead of making assumptions based on previous low-rake knowledge.
@@jakeandrews6296 this is what I was just about to write. The new regs are based on a low rake and underbody generating philosophy, something only Mercedes and Aston Martin use. Red Bull, even with Newey, have been at the ultra extreme at the opposite end, their entire design philosophy will need to change which won’t be easy
@@Daniboi971 They used exactly the same the parts of the car throughout the entire season. Only difference was on how hard they ran their engines. They took penalties to ensure they had an engine that they could use for 3 races instead of the usual 7, so they could run it at maximum power for longer. Good video by Driver61 on this.
@@Vaidulis I don't understand why people keep pushing this narrative that Merc didn't put any effort into developing the 2021 car. They may claim that they stopped aero development at Silverstone but they still spent the rest of the year chasing power unit issues.
The engine development is essentially carried over from the previous regulations far as I understand. In my opinion the next regulation advancement should be to reduce some weight from the power-trains, possibly with a marginal performance hit, but in order to make the cars slightly smaller and lighter. Due to the engines being similar, we should expect the engine situation from 21 to carry over into 22 barring major engine developments in the off season. I don't think it's impossible that a midfield team advances to be a top team. I do think because of the engines and that these cars are an evolution more that a total redesign, the front runner paradigm is likely to still be there. Can't wait to see the reveals of these 22 cars, love that its early in the aero development so we will see a lot of different concepts more than likely
Your wish may come true in 2026 with regards to the engine rules. There has been talks of banning the MGU-H (I think thats the one), to reduce running costs, reduce car weight and improve overall engine noise. I hope its true though.
It will be interesting to see if anybody has come up with "game changer" innovation, as Braun/Honda did with the double-diffuser. Such a thing could put a totally unexpected team at the front.
For 2017 Merc didn’t really stay on top. Ferrari caught them aerodynamically from a winless 2016, but the superior Merc engine (and maybe Hamilton) ultimately made the difference. Given how Ferrari went from sixth to third by mostly tweaking aero last year, I think the reds can challenge Merc and Red Bull. The team works and the system works. Hopefully the Maranello horses run faster this year so we can have a proper three-way fight. Maybe McLaren can join too, but I’m not sure.Even with the mighty Merc engine last year they weren’t that impressive already coming from third in 2020. Monza and Sochi being exemptions. Ferrari did throw away a win at Monaco and could have/should have won Silverstone. Anyway; bring it!
I really hope so. It's time for other teams to shine and for these 2 to spend at least one season some positions behind. I wanna see the best teams in the history of the sport ahead : Ferrari Mclaren and Williams
There are 2 types of people 1. Those excited to see Schumacher at the front if Haas jumped everyone 2.Those who are not excited because Mazepin will be up the front
Red bull have massive disadvantage this year cuz they use all or almost all of theif resources last year aka they got less room for massive upgrade compare to team like ferrari who got extra more resources to build their 2022 car
@@zedrhyx1788 Did they, the Red Bull car didn't seem to make any improvements during the second half of last season and I don't remember any upgrades coming?
@@lQuantumHD Agreed, it seems people see random youtubers shout that without any proof and now everyone believes it because they keep seeing it repeated. Mercedes doesn't have a good track record with aero regulations, just the engine department and that advantage is as close to gone as it has been for the last 8 years. I see no reason why RB wouldn't be good under new Aero regs.
I hope so. Hopefully Alpine Ferrari and Mclaren are the top teams while Merc and RB are like upper midfield teams that can grab the odd win or podium here and there...remember in 2009 where it wasn’t uncommon to see Toyota, BMW Williams etc up in the podium places. I also think that driving a midfieldish car would be the true litmus test for Lewis and max to demonstrate their superiority
Yep, as this^^^ guy said, and even if ferrari do start off as the fastest RB and Merc will definitely catch up to them by the first half of the season. I mean, it is RB and Merc after all...
@@slapmynutz Well, sure... as long as they are willing to sacrifice the development budget allocated to the 2023 season... All teams will have to pace themselves if they want the money to last the full season AND have enough money to develop the following year's model. That super push development mode we are used to seeing from Red Bull/Mercedes/Ferrari isn't something we should continue to expect with the new budget caps in place, alongside the aero testing restrictions.
Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't the Mercedes been in development about a year longer than everyone else? I think 2022 could be similar to 2014 for Mercedes tbh...
Technically, F1 teams were not allowed to develop their 2022 car until the 2021 season was already under way. The push back of the start of this new chassis formula muddled the waters a bit, but that rule that requires teams to only develop the current and next year cars during the current season was still in place from what I understood.
If Redbull had lost both titles it would've been a double whammy, I've joined the Ferrari hype train but I want Max V Charles for the championship more than I want merc to be a mid field team
Max vs Charles would be interesting. I'm not convinced Charles has the stamina for a full season, he is too error prone (not many but generally race ending)
@@Daniboi971 Time will win. Lewis is done at Mercedes. I doubt Mercedes will have enough in hand next year and Russell will give Hamilton enough of a work out that he'll pull an Alonso or Vettel and retire, that's my bet.
If Ferrari isn't fighting again at the front this year then it's safe to say they're completely hopeless. Especially when you consider all the money and resources they have then again though their engine will still probably be inferior to Mercedes or Honda engine.
I would like to see other teams on top for the 2022 season. However, realistically, I think Red Bull would be behind compared to Mercedes. They're set for success but probably still have a lot to figure out now considering that they're building their own engines. Mercedes probably has the infrastructure to make something good but it will lack refinement due to their work during 2021.
Mercedes finished developing their 2021 car far earlier than Red Bull and began work on their 2022 car far earlier. However, Red Bull threw the kitchen sink at developing the 2021 car so they could get the championship over the line. I think they will go in 2022 on the back foot I suspect Ferrari Mercedes and possibly even McLaren have done more development with their 2022 cars than Red Bull. Who knows this is merely speculation at least this time Red Bull has a stronger engine going into these new regulations although still weaker than Mercedes. I think they've done a 2013 again they spent so much time and effort developing their championship contender car that they haven't done anywhere near what the rivals have done for the new regulations. That and Mercedes has adapted better to rule changes than Red Bull as seen in 2014 and 2017. That and McLaren and Ferrari have both started developing their 2022 car earlier so they'll be up there as well probably challenging Red Bull.
Honda is building the engine not RBR, only thing RBR will need to worry about in that department, is making sure their name is signed properly, the staff are still talking and getting payments in.
Red bull aren't building engines, i don't even thunk they will in 2026 either if VW enter F1 with Porsche. RB engines is the back up if VW don't enter F1 imo
Even if the top two stay on top or/and possibly Ferrari and McL too as many people here are hoping, it would be awesome to see Russell and Perez on the fight if it comes down to MB and RB after all.
They'll be alright. The real question I'm sure we all want answered is which, if any, of the midfield teams can come out and deliver a race winning car right out the gate. Multiple teams hopefully.
I also think mazepin is a better driver than he showed he was last season the back end of that haas last season was awful even mick spinning out multiple times
Redbull did upgrade trough the whole 2021 season while Merc only did it at silverstone and them optimize the car. Merc was very clear on working with the 2022 car i do believe Merc and Ferrari to be the force and The bulls behind
Flexi wing i doubt it but the suspension trick is very old technique so they just implemented it something that they didn’t need to fabricate. With that said they could permit themselves to concentrate on the 2022 car
After the summer break Merc had multiple updates at several races as the engineer told in their vids. Toto said they wouldnt but that was fake, as his own collegue a day later told 😁 And they were engine testing by giving Valtteri new engines and let him race on a very high setting to see what damage it would bring. Finally Lewis got his engine in Brazil. Merc also had the new frontwing in the last 3 races, especially flown in, those were made to no get damage, new type then before. Hardly any damage in Jeddah with crash with Max. The rearwing was in Brazil made from a flexing material, that was new as well. Thats what Max was testing with his fingers. So, all in all Merc has definately been upgrading in 2nd part of 2021. Just like RB did.
the FIA needs to do more about these regulations about which resources teams should use coz in the end and this my opinion it makes the sport less innovative
The sport been less innovative since long ago compare to the early 80's, 90's cuz all of the tight regulations they put on building the car f1 engineer are a league of their own if you don't limit what they can build they even say that those engineers can build a rocketship easy without all those tight regulations
@@zedrhyx1788 it's actually the opposite, since with the tighter regulations, you'll have to be smarter to find new gains. Using the airflow to simulate the physical skirts of the initial ground-effect cars, for example, is an innovation that might not have happened had the skirts not been banned. The V6 turbo engines are the most efficient combustion engines on the planet. Again, the regulations brought this into existence. I would not be surprised if it turns out that, in absolute numbers, the amount of new innovative solutions brought into F1 to solve (regulatory) issues is the same or even larger than before the rules were tightened up.
I'm predicting the biggest two improvements from the regs are gonna be McLaren and Aston Martin. I really want to say Ferrari too but history says they bork it up on the first year of new regs. Haas will improve, but I don't think they're gonna be groundbreaking near the top by any means.
Personally, I can see Aston Martin fighting with Alfa Romeo for 9th place... Ferrari on the other hand has a very good claim to the top. I will agree that Haas isn't going to win anything though, but I expect them to be in the midfield.
I think the big teams are much more immune to this sort of thing than they were a decade ago. And the 2014 shake up was purely engine based. Merc and red bull will still be there, we just have to hope the likes of Ferrari and McLaren close the gap
It wasn't purely engine based in 2014. Look how Williams jumped all the other Merc powered teams to jump to the 3rd strongest team overall. If it had been purely engine based, then the order between the customer teams would have remained the same. Instead, we saw Williams jump into the top 3, and McLaren fall to a back and forth fight with Force India for 5th/6th.
Listening to the smoothe and calming Edd Straw Narrative on this video is a stark contrast to the Harsh and scratchy comentry of Scott Mitchell on his contributions... More of Straw please
I think they will bothe so reasonably well, but I hope McLaren gets in the mix, they are on a good path, and have started to turn thing around. And you can just never forget Ferrari, it has been some forgettable seasons for them, but with their money and facilities, you can never rule them completely out
I would like a season where teams like Williams and HAAS start with a leg up because greater concentration on the 22 car and maybe Sauber as well. Imagine a season where the earliest races have surprise contenders with 4 different drivers and 3 different teams winning the first 4 races and perhaps 7 or 8 different race winners for the season, why not.
But RB have been at least the 3rd best car in EACH of the past 12 seasons....even more consistent that MERC that came in 2010. I see RB falling behind to 3rd or 4th best but being up to speed by the end of the season and into 2023
From the engine POV, I agree with some other comments that it is highly unlikely. BUT! As they finished 1&2, they will have less wind tunnel time. And as aero is radically changed, I believe there is a chance that, overall, the cars won't be too from the beginning.
The video and concurrent results of more time spent in wind tunnel prove one thing - it doesn't matter if you have more time in the wind tunnel. Haas have progressively got worse, yet always have most time in wind tunnel. The order of time in wind tunnel is basically the reverse of how they all finished this year.
We'll know if the 2022 rule changes had any impact by whether Merc and RB start blaming poor performance on a lack of wind tunnel time. The budget cap is a hunk of swiss cheese, but the wind tunnel limitations seem more rigorous.
5:50 Mercedes doesn't have 70% of the maximum wind tunnel time because the maximum is 115%, not 100%. Mercedes really only gets 61% of the maximum aero testing time.
I just hope one team isn't completely dominant like we've seen for the past few years! I want it to be close some tracks suiting other cars etc. Will be a big let down if we turn up in 2022 & Merc or RB or Ferrari are half a second a lap quicker, will just make the excitement go down like a lead balloon!
I think Mercedes is still gonna dominate this year but from 2023 the other teams such as Mclaren and Ferrari might massively develop their cars and put up a fight for Constructors. Anyone might win the Driver's Championship. We can't possibly predict it.
I don't know why people are placing Mercedes so high... Based on what? They were dominant in the hybrid era due to their engine. That advantage is now pretty much gone. The Honda, Ferrari and Renault engine are finaly up to par. When has Mercedes built a car that would have been WDC with a lesser engine?
I think red bull put too much into last season and haven't prepared enough for 2022 whereas mercedes stopped aeros for 2021 halfway through the season to focus on this year, red bull didnt so will struggle at first maybe later in the season they could do well
Mercedes will dominate for 22 , they have unbelievable resources and can manipulate the Cost cap whatever the FIA say ! There lead driver has had a privileged easy run of championship wins and it’s set to continue for 2022 . Red Bull won’t feature in the top 3 , which are Mercedes’ McLaren and Ferrari .
@@nickypoundtown9568 did you start watching in 2020 ? Ferrari really upped their game in both 2017 and 2018, but Ferrari threw away 2017 and lets not talk about 2018 lmao. They also had the best engine in 2019 (although Illegal) but they didn't had the best car overall. If you are talking about pure domination, then I misunderstood you but op Is talking about title fights.
@@notshubhransh been watching since 1992 and I'm talking about when Ferrari worked together harmoniously as a team and had the right people, they haven't had squat since Brawn left
Want to see Leclerc, Gasly, Norris, Sainz, Russel and Verstappen battle it out in the front !!! Ocon and Riccardo as well but not in the same ballpark.
The cream always rises to the top. Given Mercedes' vast corporate machine it's very doubtful they won't always be at or near the top. Red Bull may have a little more trouble but not much. The effect of the rule changes may benefit Ferrari and Renault however. As for the restrictions on the top teams with regard to wind tunnel development etc. this is a very, very difficult area to police. What's stopping an individual from conducting or "overseeing" wind tunnel tests on supposedly unrelated vehicles and then using the knowledge gained there and applying it to the F1 program. It's impossible to monitor every single person who works for any car company 24 hours a day.
Red Bull have always been quick to resolve aero issues with their cars and Mercedes weren't exactly slow at resolving their rake issues either. I think the first few races will be a case of who adapts to their car the quickest, not who has the best package.
I don't see Mercedes falling behind simply because they have the best engine on the grid in terms of Performance and after the reliability issues they had last year, they will be focussed intensely on that part As for RB, I see the departure of Honda hurting them as it did with McLaren in the early 90s...yeah, Honda will still be running and maintaining the 2022 PU but they have achieved what they wanted already in 2021 and next year the new biofuel comesin..That said, I still see Red Bull at least 3rd-4th fastest next year with Ferrari, Mercedes and maybe McLaren/ Alpine ahead.....They will still be fighting for race wins on occasion but not consistently like 2021.
I don’t think Mercedes will be able to use engines as consumables next year. We will likely see harsher penalties after the way they abused the regs in 2021.
I would really just like to see a championship that has 3 or more teams all fast enough to be able to win it instead of these 2 horse racing championships we've been having for the last decade.
I dont want Merc to go backwards because George just got there😭😭Neither do i want RB going too far back. I want there to be a big 4 with Mclaren in the mix! I want to see George, Lando, Charles, Carlos, Daniel and Lewis take on Maxs aggressive driving style and see what happens! Max is a god right now, so please can i watch how he handles some of the other best drivers on the grid! Especially Lando because i dont see him taking nicely to Maxs aggressive driving. 😁😁
It only takes a moment of genius from a midfield design team for a Braun moment to occur. Think something clever regarding ground effects which they mostly haven't been involved with up until now. Is there some mid-ranking aerodynamicist at McLaren for instance who wrote his dissertation on ground effects while at university? Maybe he knows more about it that anyone else in the paddock giving McLaren a huge advantage, and with the wind tunnel use being restricted that advantage will be compounded because they don't need so many hours tuning their ground effects allowing them to focus on other aero issues?
Whatever you say, and whatever PR spin they want to put on it. Yes, they will be on the back foot. This is the first rule change under the cost cap regs. Other teams will have been 100% focused on the new rules while Red Bull and Merc couldn't shift their focus completely.
That is in theory..what you forget is that RB and MERC still have some of the best personnel around....Toto, Alllison, Horner and Newey know how to design and win titles....this is not just abt cost cap
God, I hope you're right. I was ready to quit watching at the end of 2020. The possibility of a smaller team jumping to the front seems so impossible these days.
@@suckieduckie Red Bull admitted themselves back then that they got the 2014 regs wrong as they waited too long to shift to 2014, so they ended up behind.
I believe RB went all in last year and Merc only did enough for the 2021 car to stay competitive. I fully expect merc to have a dominant car next season.
@@mtlfpv LOL Mercedes has been focused on 2022 for a while. Mercedes did not develop their car last year. Toto confirmed they felt they were more than ahead with the w11 that they didn’t need to focus much on the w12 even with the aero change.
No real mention of how the other teams will do.... Alpine, Hass and Williams in particular have a strong yearning for success. Let's not forget the budget caps. It's easy to stay on top when you have the money to throw around but when you're forced to scrimp and save, something loses out eventually. Hass, and Williams especially have been running on budgets lower than 2021s cap and the cap is set to get lower as the years go by. So, I'm way more interested in how these teams will go. Frank and Claire may not have anything to do with the team anymore but I will always want to see a Williams fighting for wins again ❤️
Rule changes usually alter the balance of power between the 'big' teams, without throwing teams from the back to the front, and vice versa. The thing to remember about the budget cap, is that it is not about to equalize spending. The small teams will struggle to meet it, while the larger teams will be finding ways to hide spending through 'creative accountancy', and exploiting the fact that they are part of much larger organisations
Every time we get regulation and rule changes we expect a mix up and get disappointed. Unless one of those guys found a "double diffuser" level of loophole, I doubt the pecking order changes that much. And I don't know how they are going to police this cost cap, the bigger teams have very creative ways of moving their staff around to keep them off the books.
I feel like we’ll be going into another couple of years of merc dominance until the pu change in ‘26! 22: ham’s 8th, then he retires! 23-25: russell 3peat! Their engine from brazil on… 🚀 And there’s already talk of them having gained more through development and gained more out of the new fuel mix…
@@funkymarco4411 but RB had high rake philosophy while in 2022 cars will be stuck to the ground for the ground effect. Big difference and easier for low-rake cara to adapt.
@@funkymarco4411 But Mercedes have the superior floor downforce generation, Red Bull have always focused on the Wing aero and everything above the floor. So Mercedes are going into this knowing how to get a lot of downforce from the floor and with a low rake, Red Bull have always run a high rake which for these regulations isn't the optimum strategy.
@@Npc14 ur statement merc having superior floor is not actually correct. High rake or low rake both concepts are there to produce under body downforce. The area under the floor is crucial to generate the downforce. The more the area the more the air and more the downforce. Merc adopted a low rake and long wheel base (longer wheelbase so longer floor to increase the area under). Redbull opted (high rake and shorter wheelbase so more area through high rake). The barge boards front wing are all there to generate vortex to seal the sides of the floor so the air doesn't escape through the sides. The air must exit through the diffuser to make the most out of it. So interms of aero both teams are the same. This is why low rake cars were affected in 2021, reducing the width of the floor meant reduced area, this din affect the redbull much because the area is through rake and not floor length. And the shorter wheel base means the front and rear of the car is much closer to the center so during corners the loads are easily managed. In merc the front and rear of the car is much farther than the center so more load during turing. So the redbull were good in corners.
@@g_webb21 like i explained in the other comment the downforce is not about the rake but about the area. In 2022 ventury tunnels are there to create the area they exactly do the same as a 2021 car get the air through the tunnels and out through a larger diffuser swept up. So air rushed in through a low point and exits through a high point creating pressure difference for sucking the car to the ground. In a way the high rake cars make a better use of this technique u can see the front end more close to the ground and rear end higher from the ground compared to low rake. Squeezing the air from the front through a large area in the diffuser.
Ever since Red Bull has taken engine matters basically into their own hands they will never allow for it to slip anymore, which was the case when they were Renault clients. This makes them together with Mercedes the only teams that have all the right ingredients in place atm: Plenty of resources, an efficient organization and management structure, winning spirit culture, top-level facilities, outstanding car, and engine design teams and the best people in the business attracted to them. The other teams are getting there but still lacking in one or a few areas atm. So there's no reason to believe Red Bull and Mercedes won't end up on top in 2022. There might be a surprise team or two at the beginning of the season but Mercedes and Red Bull will develop the hell out of their cars over the season, which they can do like no other to overcome any deficits.
if there is a cost cap, why aren't teams allowed to do testing's if its within the budget cap? what if for all sports on the planet they say no more practice only 3 sessions before the game/race like f1?
Mercedes will use Aston Martin allocation for the wind tunnel since they use the same wind tunnel and Red Bull , Alpha Tauri allocation. No bother on this one.
Quite honestly, the shambles that was the management of 2021 season by Masi and the FiA makes 2022 the least anticipated season for me. The likelihood being that it's the first time I don't watch. Unless this "investigation" is genuinely honest and far reaching, then the longer they drag it out the more suspicious I and others like me become. I have zero faith that anything significant will happen and as such they have a '21 title that presumably Hamilton wouldn't accept if offered to him and that a great many fans will never accept is legitimately Verstappen's. You simply can't run a sport like that because it ceases to be "sport".
2022 Is the most anticipated season since 2018 I think. New cars, clean slate for everybody..looking forward to that for sure. As for 2021, the year and season ended, that is now the past..I look forward, not backwards
I'm excited for the season, but not because of the new regs specifically. It's because the teams are finally starting to get their act together and fix their internal structure. No more politics plaguing Ferrari and McLaren, no more engine woes for Red Bull, Williams are on the rise, etc. There's still some stuff up in the air (Aston Martin's bigger scope could affect the morale and politics could delay their plans, Alpine's team structure still seems like it's a mess, Alfa is just there and Haas could use some spicing things up) but otherwise it's exciting to see.
@@micahkiyimba8641 There's a reason there's an investigation. It's because the mistakes were so big and so public that the FiA can't ignore them. Even if they change nothing (as I expect they will) they still need to have a public showing that they're looking. Spa was a joke. Abu Dabi was a joke. Many other decisions were completely arbitrary. You don't fix problems by looking forward and pretending they didn't happen. You look back, examine what was done, what went wrong, how people reacted and you try to change things. If not, F1 will be permanently damaged... unless you're a Max fan (literally the only group satisfied with the end of the last race)
@@suckieduckie "small subset"? There are getting on for 70K signatures on a petition to get max's title overthrown. that's getting on for 50% of an average GP attendance. And for something completely extreme and never going to happen. If you say double, possibly triple that number to take in the more moderate, true racing fans, with no particular affiliation to a driver, you're talking over 200K fans who likely feel the race and more specifically the SC period was incorrectly handled. Neither group constitutes a "small subset". Try to swallow your national bias and be honest about it. I understand it's hard being a fanboy but you can look beyond the blinkers once in a while. You'd be surprised how many Dutch fans can!
I really hope so BUT its hard to doubt mercedes after the dominance they had had. I think RB will have a roughstart and pick up at the end of the season. Merc will have a good car I believe but their driver pairing will clash too much to take advantage of their car. Dont think Russel is going to sit back and Be like Bottas
Mercedes will. Proof that they had an advantage with the hybrid engine. They knew long before the other teams and had that pu ready fir the change over.
Merecedes started focusing on the 2022 car from Monaco of last year itself. That's why they only brought one update to the W12, which was after Silverstone. On the other hand Red Bull was fully focused on 2021 and rightfully so because they were clearly in the title fight in the 2021 season. You never know what can happen next year with new regulations so better focus on the fight that you know you can win. But, whatever is the case their back foot is still miles ahead of everyone else.
Ferrari brought 0 updates all season and still comfortably finished 3rd. I expect them to be regulars at the front again, especially Carlos who had an incredible season
I refuse to believe that teams with deep pockets like Mercedes and Redbull will be left behind by teams littered with bad management and a scarcity of budget and resources.
I don’t think anything will be different until 2023, even then I think merc and redbull will just be closer to the other teams but still be the dominate teams
Truly hoping for the 2022 Season will give every team a competitive car. Especially HAAS since they put all of their resources for 2022. With a Competitive car, we finally could truly compare how Mazepin and Mick actual talents with other drivers.
8:07 "You need more than just money to win in F1" *Ferrari* nice one!
The actual golden rule of F1: Money won't guarantee you titles, but you can't win any titles without excessive amounts of money. Brawn GP was and always will be the sensation of the century.
I saw that and had to rewind to make sure. Then looked for this kind of comment lol
The shade of it all
Hah you noticed it too!
Ferrari doesn't spend the most
This is mighty overblown. Let us not forget when these rules were initially due to come into effect. Teams already had started on them, albeit in a very small way. Basic philosophy is no doubt set since 2020 or earlier.
I absolutely agree. I think most, if not all, teams have really been focused on the new regs since early to mid 2020. That's one of the reasons that teams were required to use carry-overs as there were complaints from all teams that they'd already started developing for the new regs originally set to begin at the start of 2021 and millions had already been spent on the new designs. They couldn't possibly be able to start 2021 with underdeveloped cars so they had to carry-overs the 2019 machines, albeit with some minor changes.
@@Dick.n.B-RockShow, I agree with everything you said apart from the carry-over car having minor changes. The cut to the rear floor the reg change stipulated they make was a big change.
HAAS went all in from January 2021
@@Dick.n.B-RockShow no after the rules got pushed back all development for 2022 was banned until Jan 2021 and only the minimal work had been done before that came in.
"You need more than just money to win in F1", *cuts to a Ferarri car*
The editor knows his job well.
I'm thinking Toyota.
I don't care who ends up in front, I just hope it's a fight with at least three teams. It would be so disappointing to see Merc finish 20 seconds ahead in Bahrain.
Imagine if merc finished 1 minute ahead
Get ready for exactly that, Scott. You know what Merc are like now. They're the death star
Never underestimate the ability of Ferrari to start strong and then screw it all up later
@@Daniboi971 do not forget that half of mercedes staff have been taken away by other teams
@@jayb2705 for real 😢
Their back foot is still miles ahead of everyone else.
Very true, I believe the other teams will be closer, but they’ll still have the edge. Ferrari is definitely gonna be up there this year.🏁
Merc's is.
@@kiilwiil2.0 Would be nice to see red on the top step again.
Nah, not really. It was for Mercedes last year but other than engines, everyone gets a completely fresh start, no limited homologation like last year. If Ferrari, Alpine and McLaren, have done a good enough job with the extra time they had, RBR and Mercedes back foot will be miles behind, not ahead. Especially RBR.
Facts 😂❣️
People forget that RedBull has Newey. The new season regs will reward excellent aerodynamic engineering. I am confident that Merc, RB, Ferrari will all be very close.
Newey cannot do on his own. Only when Honda kicked in, RB was competitive. Given 2021. performance, you can't really say that Mercedes has "worse" aero. Especially now when they could start over and move away (maybe) from low rake. And on engine, Lewis and Valtteri spent 11 engines while Max and Sergio 8 (like everyone else), so they played with more aggressive ECU mapping, but that does not mean Honda cannot do the same.
Newey too old to think by his self only, he need peoples to help him for now
@@GranDaddo Given the new regs and under floor downforce prominence, most are assuming that it's more likely that ALL teams will now move towards low (or at least, lower) rake.
So the question is... Does Merc have an advantage from the fact they've been using that approach for longer? Or does Red Bull have the advantage in that they approach these new regs with fresher eyes on a low-rake concept instead of making assumptions based on previous low-rake knowledge.
@@jakeandrews6296 this is what I was just about to write. The new regs are based on a low rake and underbody generating philosophy, something only Mercedes and Aston Martin use. Red Bull, even with Newey, have been at the ultra extreme at the opposite end, their entire design philosophy will need to change which won’t be easy
Newey won’t save redbull he’s not all that the 7 years has proved it
Not a calculated wishlist but I'd love to see a title down to the wire between Alonso and Vettel
I want to see williams, alfa romeo, and haas fight for wcc
@@aadixum dunno if we're gonna see much out of Alfa, they've lost a lot of key items
With Alonso winning
Alpine and Aston Martin probably aren't going to become top teams this year
@@aadixum I wanna see Merc and RB fight for *not last* lmao
I hope it pays off for HAAS. I would love to see Mick in the midfield. And Mazepin struggle at the back without an excuse.
Mazepin is bad but not that bad, give him a mid field car he might get 17th
Yea and if you give mazepin a redbull he would finish 16th
Why does everyone give mazepin so much shit. It was a terrible car last year and hard to handle. Give him a break
@@jacobmate1537 Why, he was smashed by his team mate just like Latifi got smashed my Russell.
@@somguy728 yeah but that doesn't mean we bully the guy, Afterall, his dad is keeping Haas's ship from sinking
I really hope so. I want a McLaren vs Ferrari Season.
We just had one. Not for the top spot, but still a good watch.
Won’t it be better if four teams are fighting for the championship.
@@emmanuelsengo684 yes, but only if Mercedes and Red Bull don't win at the end.
I want new Champions. 12 years Red Bull/ Mercedes is enough.
@@Evan102030 nobody will talk in 5 years about the great battle for third place.
You'll never see that happen with engine client teams.
It would be cool if Merc and RB start midfield and fight their way up during the season.
Realistically unlikely but would be entertaining to see.
I doubt that will happen
I agree, especially Mercedes
@@TrueBeast33 😂 people wanna see Mercedes struggle so badly. Sorta funny
@@alexm5095 yeah 8 years enough
I doubt Merc really stopped major R&D for the 2021 car after Silverstone. Their performance uplift for the last four races was impressive.
It was all in the engine. The chassis and aero dynamics teams didn't have much to do but move on to 2022.
@@samueldorrington8990 Merc was 0.3s behind to 0.3s in front of RedBull. I doubt engine upgrade alone could provide so much performance uplift.
@@samueldorrington8990 It's not just the engine. The gains they made were frightening.
It was all engine. That meant they could run higher downforce with same effects from drag.
@@Daniboi971 They used exactly the same the parts of the car throughout the entire season. Only difference was on how hard they ran their engines. They took penalties to ensure they had an engine that they could use for 3 races instead of the usual 7, so they could run it at maximum power for longer. Good video by Driver61 on this.
"You need more than just money to win F1" *as The Race casually shows the Ferrari*
McLaren and Ferrari in 2009…although I get the impression that Red Bull went more all in on 2021 than Mercedes did…
Red Bull stopped developing their car with big upgrades in hungary, while Mercedes stopped in Silverstone
@@thomasvisscher7006 They didn't stopped till Qatar and never stopped on relationship with Massi.
@@tbreytenbach9845 ...also, they still needed Masi’s corrupting the rules to overcome the Mighty Mercs!
@@Vaidulis I don't understand why people keep pushing this narrative that Merc didn't put any effort into developing the 2021 car. They may claim that they stopped aero development at Silverstone but they still spent the rest of the year chasing power unit issues.
@@mtlfpv they messed with PU modes, but PU itself. There is plenty videos about party and spicy modes.
The engine development is essentially carried over from the previous regulations far as I understand. In my opinion the next regulation advancement should be to reduce some weight from the power-trains, possibly with a marginal performance hit, but in order to make the cars slightly smaller and lighter. Due to the engines being similar, we should expect the engine situation from 21 to carry over into 22 barring major engine developments in the off season. I don't think it's impossible that a midfield team advances to be a top team. I do think because of the engines and that these cars are an evolution more that a total redesign, the front runner paradigm is likely to still be there. Can't wait to see the reveals of these 22 cars, love that its early in the aero development so we will see a lot of different concepts more than likely
Your wish may come true in 2026 with regards to the engine rules. There has been talks of banning the MGU-H (I think thats the one), to reduce running costs, reduce car weight and improve overall engine noise. I hope its true though.
It will be interesting to see if anybody has come up with "game changer" innovation, as Braun/Honda did with the double-diffuser. Such a thing could put a totally unexpected team at the front.
For 2017 Merc didn’t really stay on top. Ferrari caught them aerodynamically from a winless 2016, but the superior Merc engine (and maybe Hamilton) ultimately made the difference. Given how Ferrari went from sixth to third by mostly tweaking aero last year, I think the reds can challenge Merc and Red Bull. The team works and the system works. Hopefully the Maranello horses run faster this year so we can have a proper three-way fight. Maybe McLaren can join too, but I’m not sure.Even with the mighty Merc engine last year they weren’t that impressive already coming from third in 2020. Monza and Sochi being exemptions. Ferrari did throw away a win at Monaco and could have/should have won Silverstone. Anyway; bring it!
I really hope so. It's time for other teams to shine and for these 2 to spend at least one season some positions behind. I wanna see the best teams in the history of the sport ahead : Ferrari Mclaren and Williams
Imagine if Haas jump everyone and you see Mazepin towards the front eugh
I ate my clutch then
One might say that he could - turn it around.
There are 2 types of people
1. Those excited to see Schumacher at the front if Haas jumped everyone
2.Those who are not excited because Mazepin will be up the front
That would be lit, I actively hope this would happen. I wanna see twitter lose their marbles and mald into a black hole implosion. XD
@@imza5535 sadly, I'm both types.
No way top 3 teams will drop the ball. Most likely Ferrari will have a head start and RB will do a bit of catch up, so similar pecking order to 2018.
Red bull have massive disadvantage this year cuz they use all or almost all of theif resources last year aka they got less room for massive upgrade compare to team like ferrari who got extra more resources to build their 2022 car
@@zedrhyx1788 Did they, the Red Bull car didn't seem to make any improvements during the second half of last season and I don't remember any upgrades coming?
@@lQuantumHD Agreed, it seems people see random youtubers shout that without any proof and now everyone believes it because they keep seeing it repeated. Mercedes doesn't have a good track record with aero regulations, just the engine department and that advantage is as close to gone as it has been for the last 8 years. I see no reason why RB wouldn't be good under new Aero regs.
8:06 "You need more than just money to win in F1".
Goes on to show a Ferrari 😂 You madlads
"sass"
@@lukewood2662 😂
I hope so. Hopefully Alpine Ferrari and Mclaren are the top teams while Merc and RB are like upper midfield teams that can grab the odd win or podium here and there...remember in 2009 where it wasn’t uncommon to see Toyota, BMW Williams etc up in the podium places.
I also think that driving a midfieldish car would be the true litmus test for Lewis and max to demonstrate their superiority
Mercedes and Red Bull have a great engineering team along with management to let that happen.
Yep, as this^^^ guy said, and even if ferrari do start off as the fastest RB and Merc will definitely catch up to them by the first half of the season. I mean, it is RB and Merc after all...
@@slapmynutz Well, sure... as long as they are willing to sacrifice the development budget allocated to the 2023 season...
All teams will have to pace themselves if they want the money to last the full season AND have enough money to develop the following year's model. That super push development mode we are used to seeing from Red Bull/Mercedes/Ferrari isn't something we should continue to expect with the new budget caps in place, alongside the aero testing restrictions.
Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't the Mercedes been in development about a year longer than everyone else? I think 2022 could be similar to 2014 for Mercedes tbh...
I hope so
That's what Mercedes put out there themselves. And it is probably true.
Technically, F1 teams were not allowed to develop their 2022 car until the 2021 season was already under way. The push back of the start of this new chassis formula muddled the waters a bit, but that rule that requires teams to only develop the current and next year cars during the current season was still in place from what I understood.
If Redbull had lost both titles it would've been a double whammy, I've joined the Ferrari hype train but I want Max V Charles for the championship more than I want merc to be a mid field team
Max vs Charles would be interesting. I'm not convinced Charles has the stamina for a full season, he is too error prone (not many but generally race ending)
Ferrari was Brawn and Schumacher, that team is finished
It will be Lewis vs Time
@@nickypoundtown9568 They'll be back.
@@Daniboi971 Time will win. Lewis is done at Mercedes. I doubt Mercedes will have enough in hand next year and Russell will give Hamilton enough of a work out that he'll pull an Alonso or Vettel and retire, that's my bet.
8:06 are they saying this specificly to ferrari because the show a ferrari when the say it 😂
If Ferrari isn't fighting again at the front this year then it's safe to say they're completely hopeless. Especially when you consider all the money and resources they have then again though their engine will still probably be inferior to Mercedes or Honda engine.
What's awesome is that we're 4 weeks from Winter Testing in Spain... We'll start to see then!
I would like to see other teams on top for the 2022 season. However, realistically, I think Red Bull would be behind compared to Mercedes. They're set for success but probably still have a lot to figure out now considering that they're building their own engines. Mercedes probably has the infrastructure to make something good but it will lack refinement due to their work during 2021.
Honda is still building the engines for the time being, just not officially
Mercedes finished developing their 2021 car far earlier than Red Bull and began work on their 2022 car far earlier. However, Red Bull threw the kitchen sink at developing the 2021 car so they could get the championship over the line. I think they will go in 2022 on the back foot I suspect Ferrari Mercedes and possibly even McLaren have done more development with their 2022 cars than Red Bull.
Who knows this is merely speculation at least this time Red Bull has a stronger engine going into these new regulations although still weaker than Mercedes. I think they've done a 2013 again they spent so much time and effort developing their championship contender car that they haven't done anywhere near what the rivals have done for the new regulations. That and Mercedes has adapted better to rule changes than Red Bull as seen in 2014 and 2017. That and McLaren and Ferrari have both started developing their 2022 car earlier so they'll be up there as well probably challenging Red Bull.
Red bull is set to build its engines starting in 2026.
Honda is building the engine not RBR, only thing RBR will need to worry about in that department, is making sure their name is signed properly, the staff are still talking and getting payments in.
Red bull aren't building engines, i don't even thunk they will in 2026 either if VW enter F1 with Porsche. RB engines is the back up if VW don't enter F1 imo
The ideal would something like 2010 with a multi driver/multi team fight for the titles
Even if the top two stay on top or/and possibly Ferrari and McL too as many people here are hoping, it would be awesome to see Russell and Perez on the fight if it comes down to MB and RB after all.
Love to see Danny Ric and Lando fight for championship
8:06 "You need more than just money to win an f1"
Proceeds to show ferrari
Can't wait! I hope Ferrari will be competitive again. Two extra drivers in front means three times as many crazy actions from Max.
8:00
"You need more than just money to win in F1"
*CUTS TO FERRARI*
They'll be alright. The real question I'm sure we all want answered is which, if any, of the midfield teams can come out and deliver a race winning car right out the gate. Multiple teams hopefully.
I just want Haas to have a midfield capable car again. Mick is gonna light up the grid if he gets a better car.
I also think mazepin is a better driver than he showed he was last season the back end of that haas last season was awful even mick spinning out multiple times
@@mo121s5 I don’t think so mate.
Mazepin will still struggle 😄, we will see!
@@Soldiertjj maybe but he is a better driver than he was last year this years he’s got a chance to prove what he can do
Mick isn't good lol.
Redbull did upgrade trough the whole 2021 season while Merc only did it at silverstone and them optimize the car. Merc was very clear on working with the 2022 car i do believe Merc and Ferrari to be the force and The bulls behind
That was their plan but it clearly wasn’t the case. They introduced their flexi rear wing and rear suspension trick.
Flexi wing i doubt it but the suspension trick is very old technique so they just implemented it something that they didn’t need to fabricate. With that said they could permit themselves to concentrate on the 2022 car
After the summer break Merc had multiple updates at several races as the engineer told in their vids. Toto said they wouldnt but that was fake, as his own collegue a day later told 😁 And they were engine testing by giving Valtteri new engines and let him race on a very high setting to see what damage it would bring. Finally Lewis got his engine in Brazil. Merc also had the new frontwing in the last 3 races, especially flown in, those were made to no get damage, new type then before. Hardly any damage in Jeddah with crash with Max. The rearwing was in Brazil made from a flexing material, that was new as well. Thats what Max was testing with his fingers. So, all in all Merc has definately been upgrading in 2nd part of 2021. Just like RB did.
@@DavidCP524 exactly
@@gealingeman8643 Mercedes used no development tokens last year. They made minor tweaks to their car LOL
Why do so many TH-cam videos have background music played at such a low volume? It really makes watching videos difficult
Thank you guys for pumping out F1 content while we wait for the coming season!!
8:06 says "you need more than just money to win F1" while ferrari is the background video. What a legend
the FIA needs to do more about these regulations about which resources teams should use coz in the end and this my opinion it makes the sport less innovative
The sport been less innovative since long ago compare to the early 80's, 90's cuz all of the tight regulations they put on building the car f1 engineer are a league of their own if you don't limit what they can build they even say that those engineers can build a rocketship easy without all those tight regulations
@@zedrhyx1788 it's actually the opposite, since with the tighter regulations, you'll have to be smarter to find new gains. Using the airflow to simulate the physical skirts of the initial ground-effect cars, for example, is an innovation that might not have happened had the skirts not been banned. The V6 turbo engines are the most efficient combustion engines on the planet. Again, the regulations brought this into existence. I would not be surprised if it turns out that, in absolute numbers, the amount of new innovative solutions brought into F1 to solve (regulatory) issues is the same or even larger than before the rules were tightened up.
I'm predicting the biggest two improvements from the regs are gonna be McLaren and Aston Martin. I really want to say Ferrari too but history says they bork it up on the first year of new regs. Haas will improve, but I don't think they're gonna be groundbreaking near the top by any means.
Personally, I can see Aston Martin fighting with Alfa Romeo for 9th place... Ferrari on the other hand has a very good claim to the top. I will agree that Haas isn't going to win anything though, but I expect them to be in the midfield.
I think the big teams are much more immune to this sort of thing than they were a decade ago. And the 2014 shake up was purely engine based. Merc and red bull will still be there, we just have to hope the likes of Ferrari and McLaren close the gap
Let's not forget the cost cap though.
It wasn't purely engine based in 2014. Look how Williams jumped all the other Merc powered teams to jump to the 3rd strongest team overall. If it had been purely engine based, then the order between the customer teams would have remained the same. Instead, we saw Williams jump into the top 3, and McLaren fall to a back and forth fight with Force India for 5th/6th.
I hope the cars are so close that all teams can score a few points and it's not always the same 1-2 teams being the worst on the Sundays
To whom it may concern i am from the future and i here to say Mercedes won and Mazepin is still the worst driver
I agree. I am from the future too, it was as easy for Merc as 2020 was.
@@Daniboi971 Don't forget 2014-16 either.
Listening to the smoothe and calming Edd Straw Narrative on this video is a stark contrast to the Harsh and scratchy comentry of Scott Mitchell on his contributions... More of Straw please
I think they will bothe so reasonably well, but I hope McLaren gets in the mix, they are on a good path, and have started to turn thing around.
And you can just never forget Ferrari, it has been some forgettable seasons for them, but with their money and facilities, you can never rule them completely out
Not until they drop Ricardo, he's been running since Red Bull.
@@manjsher3094 he has 1 bad year and you write him off? Lol
@@anthonyduque6066 since Red Bull, yea I write him off.
@@manjsher3094 why’s that? I still think Daniel is a valuable asset in the sport and a proven solid driver
@@anthonyduque6066 not since Red Bull.
I would like a season where teams like Williams and HAAS start with a leg up because greater concentration on the 22 car and maybe Sauber as well. Imagine a season where the earliest races have surprise contenders with 4 different drivers and 3 different teams winning the first 4 races and perhaps 7 or 8 different race winners for the season, why not.
the bigger worry for RBR is that Adrian Newey, despite all of his brilliance, hasn’t nailed a rule change at first time of asking since 2009
How many big scale rule changes have occurred since then?
@@Daniboi971 Well the last huge one was 2014.
But RB have been at least the 3rd best car in EACH of the past 12 seasons....even more consistent that MERC that came in 2010. I see RB falling behind to 3rd or 4th best but being up to speed by the end of the season and into 2023
@@laurensgoddijn6219 2017
@@laurensgoddijn6219 That was engine based. Newey does aero, not engines....
From the engine POV, I agree with some other comments that it is highly unlikely. BUT! As they finished 1&2, they will have less wind tunnel time. And as aero is radically changed, I believe there is a chance that, overall, the cars won't be too from the beginning.
BUT HERE COMES SEBASTIAN VETTEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He's washed up.
@@ad5558 tell me why
@@flamingphoenix7307 look at his performance last 3 years,vettel peaked in Red bull and that's the end
This is the truly frustrating thing about F1. The real competition takes place over the winter as teams further refine and build their cars.
The video and concurrent results of more time spent in wind tunnel prove one thing - it doesn't matter if you have more time in the wind tunnel. Haas have progressively got worse, yet always have most time in wind tunnel. The order of time in wind tunnel is basically the reverse of how they all finished this year.
Haas didnt bother with this car though..theyve gone all out for 22...same as alpine
I think you have misunderstood something. The wind tunnel rule is new. It has nothing to do with Haas being so far behind...
@@benn87 How new is the wind tunnel rule?
@@Daniboi971 I think it was only implemented last year
@@justinburley8659 OK. We need more data then, my original comment is wrong
We'll know if the 2022 rule changes had any impact by whether Merc and RB start blaming poor performance on a lack of wind tunnel time. The budget cap is a hunk of swiss cheese, but the wind tunnel limitations seem more rigorous.
5:50 Mercedes doesn't have 70% of the maximum wind tunnel time because the maximum is 115%, not 100%. Mercedes really only gets 61% of the maximum aero testing time.
Hoping the changes lead to enough "chaos" to have teams like Ferrari and McClaren get back in the title game.
I just hope one team isn't completely dominant like we've seen for the past few years! I want it to be close some tracks suiting other cars etc. Will be a big let down if we turn up in 2022 & Merc or RB or Ferrari are half a second a lap quicker, will just make the excitement go down like a lead balloon!
I hope Mercedes are dominate just so they can fuck Michael Masi for breaking the rules last season lmao.
Prediction: Mclaren will be the surprise package of the year
Mclaren announces that they will use modified MP4/4 chasis
@@wahyudyatmika5119 hopefully, want to see Danny ric win a title before he retires
Ferrari domination.
I thought you worked for RedBull.
Imagine HAAS manages to come up with this generation’s “double diffuser” and Mick/mazepin dominate the season
"You need more than just money to win in F1“
*cuts to Ferrari* 👀
No, Merc will dominate. It's too obvious
Aston Martin
Imagine if all the teams had equall pace at the start of the season.
I think Mercedes is still gonna dominate this year but from 2023 the other teams such as Mclaren and Ferrari might massively develop their cars and put up a fight for Constructors. Anyone might win the Driver's Championship. We can't possibly predict it.
I don't know why people are placing Mercedes so high... Based on what? They were dominant in the hybrid era due to their engine. That advantage is now pretty much gone. The Honda, Ferrari and Renault engine are finaly up to par. When has Mercedes built a car that would have been WDC with a lesser engine?
@@suckieduckie 💯
@@yugarten8523 THIA
@@yugarten8523 That thing was being beaten by Ferrari's illegal engine, so when that engine got banned, Mercedes were back on top.
@@suckieduckie êxactly ferrari and mclaren haven an edge when it comes to development of the new cars
i would sub man but yall spoil the race for EVERY TIME before i can watch lol
Think Mercedes will still have the best car. Red Bull will drop back to 3rd or maybe 4th best I believe
I think red bull put too much into last season and haven't prepared enough for 2022 whereas mercedes stopped aeros for 2021 halfway through the season to focus on this year, red bull didnt so will struggle at first maybe later in the season they could do well
Mercedes will dominate for 22 , they have unbelievable resources and can manipulate the Cost cap whatever the FIA say ! There lead driver has had a privileged easy run of championship wins and it’s set to continue for 2022 . Red Bull won’t feature in the top 3 , which are Mercedes’ McLaren and Ferrari .
I reckon Ferrari will be up there with Mercedes. McLaren will be nipping at their heels, Red Bull will slip, I think.
Ferrari have shown nothing since 2004
@@nickypoundtown9568 did you start watching in 2020 ? Ferrari really upped their game in both 2017 and 2018, but Ferrari threw away 2017 and lets not talk about 2018 lmao. They also had the best engine in 2019 (although Illegal) but they didn't had the best car overall. If you are talking about pure domination, then I misunderstood you but op Is talking about title fights.
@@nickypoundtown9568 forgot about 2007 , 2008 and 2010 then?
@@tombardsley3081 2007 was running on the fumes of Schumacher 2008/10 didn't impress me
@@notshubhransh been watching since 1992 and I'm talking about when Ferrari worked together harmoniously as a team and had the right people, they haven't had squat since Brawn left
Imagine the twist when Albon and Latifi lap Russel and Verstappen in 2022 :)
Want to see Leclerc, Gasly, Norris, Sainz, Russel and Verstappen battle it out in the front !!! Ocon and Riccardo as well but not in the same ballpark.
I think Riccardo will be better than you think, just like with renualt I think it just takes him a while.
Still Riccardo & Ocon are as good as anybody on the grid.
Add hamilton and alonso
@@adityareddy876 vettel
@@kushagraN ya good choice
The cream always rises to the top. Given Mercedes' vast corporate machine it's very doubtful they won't always be at or near the top. Red Bull may have a little more trouble but not much. The effect of the rule changes may benefit Ferrari and Renault however.
As for the restrictions on the top teams with regard to wind tunnel development etc. this is a very, very difficult area to police.
What's stopping an individual from conducting or "overseeing" wind tunnel tests on supposedly unrelated vehicles and then using the knowledge gained there and applying it to the F1 program.
It's impossible to monitor every single person who works for any car company 24 hours a day.
RedBull will struggle due to engine development
there's no real engine development now. Engines are frozen ironically because RB had a sook.
The honda was the second best engine this year and it got close to the merc.
@@louiscypher4186 Frozen from 22
Not 21
@@lingtondaniel Honda were still developing in 2021 so your point is completely moot. Happy New Year 😊
@@Dick.n.B-RockShow i hope so
Red Bull have always been quick to resolve aero issues with their cars and Mercedes weren't exactly slow at resolving their rake issues either. I think the first few races will be a case of who adapts to their car the quickest, not who has the best package.
I don't see Mercedes falling behind simply because they have the best engine on the grid in terms of Performance and after the reliability issues they had last year, they will be focussed intensely on that part
As for RB, I see the departure of Honda hurting them as it did with McLaren in the early 90s...yeah, Honda will still be running and maintaining the 2022 PU but they have achieved what they wanted already in 2021 and next year the new biofuel comesin..That said, I still see Red Bull at least 3rd-4th fastest next year with Ferrari, Mercedes and maybe McLaren/ Alpine ahead.....They will still be fighting for race wins on occasion but not consistently like 2021.
I don’t think Mercedes will be able to use engines as consumables next year. We will likely see harsher penalties after the way they abused the regs in 2021.
I would really just like to see a championship that has 3 or more teams all fast enough to be able to win it instead of these 2 horse racing championships we've been having for the last decade.
I dont want Merc to go backwards because George just got there😭😭Neither do i want RB going too far back. I want there to be a big 4 with Mclaren in the mix! I want to see George, Lando, Charles, Carlos, Daniel and Lewis take on Maxs aggressive driving style and see what happens! Max is a god right now, so please can i watch how he handles some of the other best drivers on the grid! Especially Lando because i dont see him taking nicely to Maxs aggressive driving. 😁😁
It only takes a moment of genius from a midfield design team for a Braun moment to occur. Think something clever regarding ground effects which they mostly haven't been involved with up until now. Is there some mid-ranking aerodynamicist at McLaren for instance who wrote his dissertation on ground effects while at university? Maybe he knows more about it that anyone else in the paddock giving McLaren a huge advantage, and with the wind tunnel use being restricted that advantage will be compounded because they don't need so many hours tuning their ground effects allowing them to focus on other aero issues?
Whatever you say, and whatever PR spin they want to put on it. Yes, they will be on the back foot. This is the first rule change under the cost cap regs. Other teams will have been 100% focused on the new rules while Red Bull and Merc couldn't shift their focus completely.
That is in theory..what you forget is that RB and MERC still have some of the best personnel around....Toto, Alllison, Horner and Newey know how to design and win titles....this is not just abt cost cap
God, I hope you're right. I was ready to quit watching at the end of 2020. The possibility of a smaller team jumping to the front seems so impossible these days.
@@micahkiyimba8641 as did red bull in 2013 and ferrari and mclaren in 2008, yet they still messed up the new regs and struggled to recover.
@@MattGP01 RB didn't mess up the aero regs in 2013-2014. Renault messed up the engine regs.
@@suckieduckie Red Bull admitted themselves back then that they got the 2014 regs wrong as they waited too long to shift to 2014, so they ended up behind.
Gonna be the same old lang syne with perhaps the usual suspects sneaking wins in... Occam's razor is applicable here....
I believe RB went all in last year and Merc only did enough for the 2021 car to stay competitive. I fully expect merc to have a dominant car next season.
Hmm. Merc stopped developing the 2020 car very early and that didn't help them much in 2021...
@@mtlfpv LOL Mercedes has been focused on 2022 for a while. Mercedes did not develop their car last year. Toto confirmed they felt they were more than ahead with the w11 that they didn’t need to focus much on the w12 even with the aero change.
No real mention of how the other teams will do.... Alpine, Hass and Williams in particular have a strong yearning for success. Let's not forget the budget caps. It's easy to stay on top when you have the money to throw around but when you're forced to scrimp and save, something loses out eventually. Hass, and Williams especially have been running on budgets lower than 2021s cap and the cap is set to get lower as the years go by. So, I'm way more interested in how these teams will go. Frank and Claire may not have anything to do with the team anymore but I will always want to see a Williams fighting for wins again ❤️
This video isn’t about the rest of the field. This is clearly about the two front runners who were in the “2021 F1 War”. Keep up, Bruv.
The drama in alpine doesn't have any solid evidence of success
Rule changes usually alter the balance of power between the 'big' teams, without throwing teams from the back to the front, and vice versa.
The thing to remember about the budget cap, is that it is not about to equalize spending. The small teams will struggle to meet it, while the larger teams will be finding ways to hide spending through 'creative accountancy', and exploiting the fact that they are part of much larger organisations
Plus, they will get SIGNIFICANTLY higher time in CFDs than the upper tier teams.
Every time we get regulation and rule changes we expect a mix up and get disappointed. Unless one of those guys found a "double diffuser" level of loophole, I doubt the pecking order changes that much. And I don't know how they are going to police this cost cap, the bigger teams have very creative ways of moving their staff around to keep them off the books.
Could it not be a strategy to start the season slow to get more wind tunnel time?
I feel like we’ll be going into another couple of years of merc dominance until the pu change in ‘26!
22: ham’s 8th, then he retires!
23-25: russell 3peat!
Their engine from brazil on… 🚀
And there’s already talk of them having gained more through development and gained more out of the new fuel mix…
Sources??
If 22 is competitive enough I think hamilton will stay for a bit longer
@@johnpml7590 Source: trust me, bro!
What am I, Google?!
@@bynahelemaal maybe :p
what a pointless video I know you have make content but can stop the speculating a wait for testing PLEASE or least the launches
i bet it's just red bull that will get a set back
I think its merc cuz they aren't as good with the aero as the bull's.
@@funkymarco4411 but RB had high rake philosophy while in 2022 cars will be stuck to the ground for the ground effect. Big difference and easier for low-rake cara to adapt.
@@funkymarco4411 But Mercedes have the superior floor downforce generation, Red Bull have always focused on the Wing aero and everything above the floor. So Mercedes are going into this knowing how to get a lot of downforce from the floor and with a low rake, Red Bull have always run a high rake which for these regulations isn't the optimum strategy.
@@Npc14 ur statement merc having superior floor is not actually correct. High rake or low rake both concepts are there to produce under body downforce. The area under the floor is crucial to generate the downforce. The more the area the more the air and more the downforce. Merc adopted a low rake and long wheel base (longer wheelbase so longer floor to increase the area under). Redbull opted (high rake and shorter wheelbase so more area through high rake). The barge boards front wing are all there to generate vortex to seal the sides of the floor so the air doesn't escape through the sides. The air must exit through the diffuser to make the most out of it. So interms of aero both teams are the same. This is why low rake cars were affected in 2021, reducing the width of the floor meant reduced area, this din affect the redbull much because the area is through rake and not floor length.
And the shorter wheel base means the front and rear of the car is much closer to the center so during corners the loads are easily managed. In merc the front and rear of the car is much farther than the center so more load during turing. So the redbull were good in corners.
@@g_webb21 like i explained in the other comment the downforce is not about the rake but about the area. In 2022 ventury tunnels are there to create the area they exactly do the same as a 2021 car get the air through the tunnels and out through a larger diffuser swept up. So air rushed in through a low point and exits through a high point creating pressure difference for sucking the car to the ground. In a way the high rake cars make a better use of this technique u can see the front end more close to the ground and rear end higher from the ground compared to low rake. Squeezing the air from the front through a large area in the diffuser.
I can see Redbull having a championship hangover. I see Merc coming out guns blazing to prove a point.
Ever since Red Bull has taken engine matters basically into their own hands they will never allow for it to slip anymore, which was the case when they were Renault clients. This makes them together with Mercedes the only teams that have all the right ingredients in place atm: Plenty of resources, an efficient organization and management structure, winning spirit culture, top-level facilities, outstanding car, and engine design teams and the best people in the business attracted to them. The other teams are getting there but still lacking in one or a few areas atm.
So there's no reason to believe Red Bull and Mercedes won't end up on top in 2022. There might be a surprise team or two at the beginning of the season but Mercedes and Red Bull will develop the hell out of their cars over the season, which they can do like no other to overcome any deficits.
if there is a cost cap, why aren't teams allowed to do testing's if its within the budget cap?
what if for all sports on the planet they say no more practice only 3 sessions before the game/race like f1?
Impossible to write Mercedes off, especially after they got better after the last, granted less significant, rules change.
Mercedes will use Aston Martin allocation for the wind tunnel since they use the same wind tunnel and Red Bull , Alpha Tauri allocation. No bother on this one.
Quite honestly, the shambles that was the management of 2021 season by Masi and the FiA makes 2022 the least anticipated season for me. The likelihood being that it's the first time I don't watch.
Unless this "investigation" is genuinely honest and far reaching, then the longer they drag it out the more suspicious I and others like me become. I have zero faith that anything significant will happen and as such they have a '21 title that presumably Hamilton wouldn't accept if offered to him and that a great many fans will never accept is legitimately Verstappen's.
You simply can't run a sport like that because it ceases to be "sport".
2022 Is the most anticipated season since 2018 I think. New cars, clean slate for everybody..looking forward to that for sure. As for 2021, the year and season ended, that is now the past..I look forward, not backwards
I'm excited for the season, but not because of the new regs specifically.
It's because the teams are finally starting to get their act together and fix their internal structure. No more politics plaguing Ferrari and McLaren, no more engine woes for Red Bull, Williams are on the rise, etc. There's still some stuff up in the air (Aston Martin's bigger scope could affect the morale and politics could delay their plans, Alpine's team structure still seems like it's a mess, Alfa is just there and Haas could use some spicing things up) but otherwise it's exciting to see.
'Great many fans' by that you mean a small subset of Hamilton fans that are still complaining about it.
@@micahkiyimba8641 There's a reason there's an investigation. It's because the mistakes were so big and so public that the FiA can't ignore them. Even if they change nothing (as I expect they will) they still need to have a public showing that they're looking.
Spa was a joke.
Abu Dabi was a joke.
Many other decisions were completely arbitrary.
You don't fix problems by looking forward and pretending they didn't happen.
You look back, examine what was done, what went wrong, how people reacted and you try to change things. If not, F1 will be permanently damaged... unless you're a Max fan (literally the only group satisfied with the end of the last race)
@@suckieduckie "small subset"? There are getting on for 70K signatures on a petition to get max's title overthrown. that's getting on for 50% of an average GP attendance. And for something completely extreme and never going to happen. If you say double, possibly triple that number to take in the more moderate, true racing fans, with no particular affiliation to a driver, you're talking over 200K fans who likely feel the race and more specifically the SC period was incorrectly handled.
Neither group constitutes a "small subset".
Try to swallow your national bias and be honest about it. I understand it's hard being a fanboy but you can look beyond the blinkers once in a while. You'd be surprised how many Dutch fans can!
I really hope so BUT its hard to doubt mercedes after the dominance they had had.
I think RB will have a roughstart and pick up at the end of the season.
Merc will have a good car I believe but their driver pairing will clash too much to take advantage of their car. Dont think Russel is going to sit back and Be like Bottas
imagine merc rb ferrari and mclaren all with relatively equal cars this year
The master🅱️lan wil work in 2022. FORZA FERRARI!
Mercedes will. Proof that they had an advantage with the hybrid engine. They knew long before the other teams and had that pu ready fir the change over.
Merecedes started focusing on the 2022 car from Monaco of last year itself. That's why they only brought one update to the W12, which was after Silverstone. On the other hand Red Bull was fully focused on 2021 and rightfully so because they were clearly in the title fight in the 2021 season. You never know what can happen next year with new regulations so better focus on the fight that you know you can win. But, whatever is the case their back foot is still miles ahead of everyone else.
Ferrari brought 0 updates all season and still comfortably finished 3rd. I expect them to be regulars at the front again, especially Carlos who had an incredible season
I refuse to believe that teams with deep pockets like Mercedes and Redbull will be left behind by teams littered with bad management and a scarcity of budget and resources.
I don’t think anything will be different until 2023, even then I think merc and redbull will just be closer to the other teams but still be the dominate teams
I feel like the aero rules on wind tunnel time is extremely unfair. So you punish me for getting the exact same regs right?
Truly hoping for the 2022 Season will give every team a competitive car. Especially HAAS since they put all of their resources for 2022. With a Competitive car, we finally could truly compare how Mazepin and Mick actual talents with other drivers.
I don't think Haas will last after this year gene Haas has no patience left and a bad season next year will mean he leaves f1
I'd like Williams to pull off a 'brawn gp' type of season
Albon 2022 world champion?
8:07
"You need more than just money to win in F1"
**Shows video of Ferrari**