One of Impossible Foods’ competitors added hemoglobin to their meatless meat, and Impossible sued. The European Patent Office revoked one of their patents late last year, and a Delaware Court is currently deciding the fate of a U.S. patent. We’ll see how this all unfolds! dockets.justia.com/docket/delaware/dedce/1:2022cv00311/78256 register.epo.org/application?tab=doclist&number=EP14737766&lng=en
Meat imitation products have gotten a lot better recently. I think having them at fast food places has been a bit of a watershed moment for them. However I'm always a little amused that we Americans can't seem to imagine a vegetarian diet without some 1:1 analog for meat. Most cultures and countries have have been making food without animals for thousands of years, but in the US food consumption is shaped as much by advertisers and industry lobby groups as it is by culture and history.
Your logic eludes some people. Some people don't even are if the fake meat would be exactly identical to real meat in every way, they still want real meat because they WANT something to die. Humans are objectively the worst. 😠
We shouldn’t call it meat. If vegetable protein based substitutes want to have a chance at all, they need to stand on their own merits, not be a worse version of actual meat. That’s why I respect the humble slab of tofu: it’s what it is.
That's one way to look at it. The other way is that the reality is the bulk of the population eats meat, and if you're trying to convert them you should do it in a way they're more likely to accept. I looked through my fridge at all my various meat substitutes and most of them don't actually say "plant meat" or anything like that. They'll say plant sausage or plant burger but don't actually mention it as an alt-meat. Even the company name "beyond meat" could be interpreted as another way of saying "not meat" as opposed to a particular type of meat.
I don't see what's so hard about the definition. If it comes from an animal it's considered meat whether it's a spider leg a slug cow chicken cat dog whatever It's considered meat. If it comes from the fungus kingdom it's not considered meat If it comes from the plant kingdom it's not considered meat either. If these plant-based substitutes for beef add something that came from an animal it's considered a meat product Not meat.
"human flesh" GASP..."Relax, it's just flesh of someone who doesn't look or think like us, so it's okay that we took their life from them unnecessarily" The fact that it wasn't human doesn't change the offense. You need a justification for taking their life from them, making a video, or getting food from them when you could have eaten something else that isn't sentient, isn't a justification. If they were threatening your life or if you had no other option are justifications. I do appreciate this video being pro blurring the lines of these meat definitions, though.
Youre not going to save humanity by depending on ultra-processed, herbicide/pesticide soaked, industrially farmed monocrops grown on fossil fuel derived fertilisers. USA's number one export is topsoil.
Jezus freaking christ these youtube creators are treating us like kindergarten children. Hey did you know that words can be used in a literal sense as well as a figurative sense? That's why we can refer to the 'meat' or even the 'flesh' of an orange, or even the 'meat' of an issue. Hey did you know that the watery stuff inside a coconut has been called 'milk' for centuries?
Um, I think you missed the point. Did you watch to the end? He clarified that this will end up being a legal thing. Did you know that "American cheese" isn't cheese? Those cheese slices are "cheddar-STYLE cheese-PRODUCT". Words matter and the law cares.
@@I.____.....__...__ My comment is in response only to the title of the video, which seems to take issue with the figurative or creative use of the word 'meat'. As to your other questions, I teach food science so yes I'm familiar with labeling requirements for foods. American cheese is certainly cheese as most people usually use the word. Legally it must be labeled "processed cheese" or "cheese product", depending on the amounts of cheese blends and fat that end up in the final product. But this is my whole point - people are going to decide what they want to call 'meat', 'milk', or 'cheese' even though it may irritate the occasional TH-cam creator.
And? 🤨 That's not the gotcha you think it is. 🙄 Humans have made balls of plant materials long before they made balls of meat. Besides, simulating a food by substituting ingredients doesn't mean they actually want that ingredient, it means they DON'T want that ingredient but like the food as a whole. Duh. I guess you'd say that people who eat fat-free ice-cream really want fat or people who want gluten-free bread want gluten and so on. 😒
I don't think the appeal of tasting like meat is for the sake of existing vegetarians. It's more intended for encouraging carnivores to replace some of their meat intake with a source that won't fart its way to an environmental apocalypse
One of Impossible Foods’ competitors added hemoglobin to their meatless meat, and Impossible sued. The European Patent Office revoked one of their patents late last year, and a Delaware Court is currently deciding the fate of a U.S. patent. We’ll see how this all unfolds!
dockets.justia.com/docket/delaware/dedce/1:2022cv00311/78256
register.epo.org/application?tab=doclist&number=EP14737766&lng=en
You should have gave the dog the burger You weren't going to eat it.
The experiment with George's dog extremely well executed with definitive results. I died laughing at the conclusion! 😂
Can't argue with the conclusion.
I like the writing style, "acting", and editing of your recent videos. Keeps me engaged and even laughing at times :)
This guy is an amazing host. The timing on the show is great. It's funny and witty humor, I loved it.
We think he's pretty okay
I've had both and literally explained it like this: "Impossible Burger tastes more like beef, but Beyond Meat tastes better."
Someone should now mix Beyond and Impossible to see if it gets better or worse.
There was talk about doing this--perhaps we'll do it for a short in the upcoming weeks
In theory, it should produce a meat substitute with the texture and taste of meat, but i highly doubt it.
The dog 🥰🥰🥰
Caper's such a good girl
10:37 I like how George is so systematic going from left to right.
Isn't cannibalism also a bad idea chemically because of prions?
Yes
That's how we got Kuru... quite the terrifying condition. Its remarkable prions have yet to be weaponised as of this comment...
Why would anyone not consider a spider or human meat? Meat is what animals are made of. I personally would also consider cultured meat as meat.
If it turns out that my meatball is sentient and wants me to worship it, what should I do?
Eat it quicker.
George has spoken, er barked, er..whatever he’s a good boy
He's a very good boy
"Definitions are socially constructed"
Hermeneutics 1 x 0 Chemistry
Should we trust a taste test to a guy who can’t tell a difference between brined and normal chicken?
That's why we went with the dog--more reliable
How about mixing both together? to combine texture and hemtaste and reduce sweetness. Lets try this :)
Quorn is good at fake chicken. Their spicy “chicken” sandwich is the best frozen chicken sandwich I’ve ever bought.
yuss!!!
For one of your future videos, could you talk about the chemistry of the methods to decaffeinate coffee and making insta coffee? Great video!
The same reason we call plant based milk milk
Why is the audio in this video so quiet?
5:56 that's how you get non-vegan meat
Chemistry in the basement still super creepy.
Also, when IS the golden age of chemistry?!?
The golden-age of chemistry comes after the lead-age of chemistry, it just takes a little time for the process to convert it.
My picky dog likes impossible whoppers.
Let's hope that some Doctor Meatenstein doesn't approximate a nasty prion molecule.
I cannot believe that you did not try mixing the two types of "meat" to see if the taste and the texture would be closer to "meat"
Meat imitation products have gotten a lot better recently. I think having them at fast food places has been a bit of a watershed moment for them. However I'm always a little amused that we Americans can't seem to imagine a vegetarian diet without some 1:1 analog for meat. Most cultures and countries have have been making food without animals for thousands of years, but in the US food consumption is shaped as much by advertisers and industry lobby groups as it is by culture and history.
Conclusion: "Dog likes food." 🤣👌🏻
Truly fused..
imagine if they tasted nicer instead of tasting like meat
Your logic eludes some people. Some people don't even are if the fake meat would be exactly identical to real meat in every way, they still want real meat because they WANT something to die. Humans are objectively the worst. 😠
Very interesting.
Even chemists are not immune from living in r/TvTooHigh homes! :)
I feel like I’m in the home with him
We shouldn’t call it meat. If vegetable protein based substitutes want to have a chance at all, they need to stand on their own merits, not be a worse version of actual meat. That’s why I respect the humble slab of tofu: it’s what it is.
That's one way to look at it. The other way is that the reality is the bulk of the population eats meat, and if you're trying to convert them you should do it in a way they're more likely to accept. I looked through my fridge at all my various meat substitutes and most of them don't actually say "plant meat" or anything like that. They'll say plant sausage or plant burger but don't actually mention it as an alt-meat. Even the company name "beyond meat" could be interpreted as another way of saying "not meat" as opposed to a particular type of meat.
BE NICE TO YOUR DOG
Dog?
I don't see what's so hard about the definition. If it comes from an animal it's considered meat whether it's a spider leg a slug cow chicken cat dog whatever It's considered meat.
If it comes from the fungus kingdom it's not considered meat If it comes from the plant kingdom it's not considered meat either.
If these plant-based substitutes for beef add something that came from an animal it's considered a meat product Not meat.
Yeah, that's likely how it will end up being labelled, just like how "American cheese" has to be labelled "cheddar-STYLE cheese-PRODUCT".
👏🏻😂
"human flesh" GASP..."Relax, it's just flesh of someone who doesn't look or think like us, so it's okay that we took their life from them unnecessarily" The fact that it wasn't human doesn't change the offense. You need a justification for taking their life from them, making a video, or getting food from them when you could have eaten something else that isn't sentient, isn't a justification. If they were threatening your life or if you had no other option are justifications.
I do appreciate this video being pro blurring the lines of these meat definitions, though.
As someone who wants to go vegan but has literally no willpower, cultivated meat is the only solution
Youre not going to save humanity by depending on ultra-processed, herbicide/pesticide soaked, industrially farmed monocrops grown on fossil fuel derived fertilisers. USA's number one export is topsoil.
USA's number one export is topsoil.
Huh, I thought it was bottom feeders
its by its source from an animal its meat if not it made up , you dont call sweats frouts
Jezus freaking christ these youtube creators are treating us like kindergarten children. Hey did you know that words can be used in a literal sense as well as a figurative sense? That's why we can refer to the 'meat' or even the 'flesh' of an orange, or even the 'meat' of an issue. Hey did you know that the watery stuff inside a coconut has been called 'milk' for centuries?
Um, I think you missed the point. Did you watch to the end? He clarified that this will end up being a legal thing. Did you know that "American cheese" isn't cheese? Those cheese slices are "cheddar-STYLE cheese-PRODUCT". Words matter and the law cares.
@@I.____.....__...__ My comment is in response only to the title of the video, which seems to take issue with the figurative or creative use of the word 'meat'.
As to your other questions, I teach food science so yes I'm familiar with labeling requirements for foods. American cheese is certainly cheese as most people usually use the word. Legally it must be labeled "processed cheese" or "cheese product", depending on the amounts of cheese blends and fat that end up in the final product. But this is my whole point - people are going to decide what they want to call 'meat', 'milk', or 'cheese' even though it may irritate the occasional TH-cam creator.
Vegans: "we don't miss meat that much" while eating fake meatballs...LOL
Not every vegan craves for taste pleasure and not every vegan says "I don't miss meat that much" either.
And? 🤨 That's not the gotcha you think it is. 🙄 Humans have made balls of plant materials long before they made balls of meat. Besides, simulating a food by substituting ingredients doesn't mean they actually want that ingredient, it means they DON'T want that ingredient but like the food as a whole. Duh. I guess you'd say that people who eat fat-free ice-cream really want fat or people who want gluten-free bread want gluten and so on. 😒
I don't think the appeal of tasting like meat is for the sake of existing vegetarians. It's more intended for encouraging carnivores to replace some of their meat intake with a source that won't fart its way to an environmental apocalypse