Wait until the 10 years pass and you can'y buy an extended 12C warranty.....looking at a $60k car with tons of issues while the 458 never gets below $110k
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Followup: Shipped my car to California for Monterey. Followup to that: My 458 burned but everybody is ok. *goes and burries another car next to the Range Rover while crying deeply*
Granted he was talking about the time. The guy pulled out on a secluded street by a rich neighborhood, I think he was just voicing his concerns with potentially having issues, given he doesn't know the area.
Ferrari would catch on fire and the insurance check gets you a new one... Or the Mclaren breaks all the time but has a warranty... Boy, decisions decisions
As a huge Ferrari fan growing up honestly I've fallen out of the brand since about the 458 Specialè, but I think that's due to my personal taste changing with age, I would do anything for a Spyker for example, I personally think it's gorgeous inside and out, sounds great, has the doors like a Murcièlago, and is something to talk about and open conversations that aren't generic Italian supercar questions. Don't get me wronge, I'd take a 355 GTS, 575 SuperAmercia, 599 SuperAmerica, really almost anything pre 2010. The 458 just rides that line for me, I'll admire one but never specifically dream of one. The modern McLaren line has been cool and respectable but if it came to putting money down I'd pass on pretty much everything except a nicely MSO spec'd 675 LT Spider. I really like topless cars if you haven't picked up on that.
"Everything just feels so much smoother--less frantic. You may chalk this up to me owning this car for a while." Said after having the car for 2 months--apparently an eternity in Hoovie time. Start the approximate 1 month countdown to "I'm selling my McLaren MP4-12c..."
Agreed the look of a McLaren is way way better, but I'm based as I love the style of the intake that's just behind the doors, and in front of the rear wheels. The Ferrari is missing it so loses that supercar look, and I feel it's just the name that makes them sell. I notice most Ferrari models don't have that intake (or they're very tiny) which is probably why I'm not a fan of Ferrari. As well as Ferrari (and Porsche) are too much of a cliche that old rich guys buy. Whereas a Lamborghini is more unique than a Ferrari, as well as the Aventador and Gallardo have that intake styling.
You have a unique style in presenting. You are charismatic and have the gift of the gab all coupled with a self deprecating sense of humour. Love your work from Sydney, Australia. Ps I love cars and drive a 2005 Toyota Camry. She never lets me down!
His review is the first I've heard that the car is 'intense' and uncomfortable on a short drive. The 458 is extremely comfortable for a supercar, even more so when I drive in "bumpy road" mode.
@Gus Kipper With the s2000, you get the best of both worlds. You need to put the key in the ignition, turn it, and then press the start button. And you need to keep it pressed down until the engine runs. Not like on modern cars where you just need to push the button and the computer does everything for you 🤩
First time I drove a 458 I was just given the keys and left to it. I fired it up and the radio was on full, took a few minutes just to find the volume knob as its like the black space ship in Hitch Hikers guide (black buttons on a black panel labeled in black) and then had to figure out the park/hand brake...
You get what you pay for! Supercars require constant love and attention from responsible caring owners. If you are not that person buy a 'stang? But don't buy a worn-out rat fucked neglected supercar and assume that they're all like that! Unless you're doing it to feed your youtube channel?
Good editing hahah, I love how you try things you obviously can't accomplish perfectly, don't ever hire a proper editor or flim crew, you're the best as is!
@@iaintdonknow I think the the current Z06 is one. It can track the time of your beloved. It's cheap in comparison.. Plus you can can do maintenance with a 100 dollar tool kit. I men brakes, oil change and all plus that's at 40k or later.
I've driven both of these from a couple of the exotic car racing experiences and I can attest that the Ferrari is WAY more exciting to drive. I was impartial going into it, but now its my dream car. That said, I like the styling of most McLarens better
The 458 is one of the greatest looking cars ever made, the 12c looks generic, even the name is generic, I almost forgot that it even existed. It seems to me that you downplayed the Ferrari. If I had the money 458 would be the obvious choice.
Buying it new, yes, you took quite a bath on depreciation. Buying it a few years old like the one in the video, well you keep it for 4-5 years, put a few thousand miles on it, sell it for what you bought it for. Granted you'll spend several thousand dollars in maintenance, but you gotta pay to play IMO.
@@aaronbays4 I totally agree! That's why I'm gonna get a C5 corvette and procharge it with a few other things. You're lookin at $30k max if you do the work yourself. People are so dumb to pay so much money for a car that breaks every 3 months!
No the best to me is a 6 speed manual Gallardo. Your right on with the 458 vs 12c but the hurrican is to me a bit to dulled down and common. The Gallardo is cheaper and has the optional manual. So a great looking car that will gain value even with usage and is quite reliable by supercars standards. That's my vote
Blue Danube into great !!! Long time Kansas viewer and I've had lots of fun viewing your channel for many moons now. Unfortunately by the 5 minute mark I've had to endure you pimping that product followed by 2 commercial interruptions. It's too much. I started to think I was trying to watch a college basketball game on CBS. The advertising time is so dominant that it's no longer an enjoyable experience. Hopefully when your TV show airs you won't be FOCUSING on Ford Focus RS or pizza delivery cars. Don't get rid of The Wizard or you might end up like Wheeler Dealers without Edd. Good luck and THANKS FOR LISTENING !
If I already had a Rolls like Hoovie does, I would have to go with the more raw 458. There's no need for a luxury supercar when you already have the epitome of luxury.
Also you forgot that you got the better engine when they replaced it which is cool! And for a guy who thinks a 96 Buick park Ave super is the best car of all time, the McLaren is best for Hoovie
When I brought my 1st super car in 2014 I compared and researched 3 brands. Ferrari 458, maclaren 12c, and lambo Gallardo. I chose the 458 as I thought and still believe it was the better choice. It was pretty much flawless. Fast forward now I was looking for my new toy and compared the 488 spider, 720s spider and huracan. I compared and chose the 720s. I try to be objective and not a brand fanboy. I feel the 720s spider is the best bang for the buck and a true multi tasking car. The early 18s were a new model and had some issues like most new models but the 19s have been much better. The other brands are still great cars but I feel the 720s spider ticks all the boxes for me!!
This channel used to be exciting to watch as the cars were attainable for most people. Now it's interesting but not nearly as fun to watch. Shame what some fame and money does to youtubers content...becomes unrelatable Time to move on to a different channel
So when I had my dealer license a few years ago we had both a 458 coupe and roaster in inventory I drove the coupe for a month and completely agree with you about it being more technical and just not as comfortable as you would think it should be. Fun, fast, attention getter and beautiful but I was kind of happy to not drive it anymore (sold it at Barrett-Jackson). Until I drove an Aventador for a weekend. Never again for me.... but that's just me and a whole different story. Enjoy the Macky......... all the points you made are true and ya see way more 458's then them especially here in AZ so they have that cool factor especially for you in corn country.
Supercar that you can drive everyday? It's not a 'super car'. Remember...familiarity almost always breeds contempt. The 458 is memorable...the MP4 less so.
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Wait until the 10 years pass and you can'y buy an extended 12C warranty.....looking at a $60k car with tons of issues while the 458 never gets below $110k
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*Next video:* Here's why I traded my McLaren +$50,000 for a used Ferrari 458
Followup: Shipped my car to California for Monterey.
Followup to that: My 458 burned but everybody is ok. *goes and burries another car next to the Range Rover while crying deeply*
Next Tavarish video: I'm Rebuilding A Dirt Cheap Ferrari 458 (Destroyed By FIRE)
Why is this comment line so meta?😂
Would probably come ahead on the long run. Once mclarens warranty expires, it's a worthless piece of machinery
LOL! Probably
Tyler: *buys ferrari 458 and catches fire*
Tavarish: *SWEATS*
He actually told that he will never get another car from Tyler.
It's like a food chain with Doug as the Apex Predator.
@@MrPeteragent He said that about Tylers fleet at the time but if he got a 458 I'm sure he would get it
Does Tyler catch fire?
@@MrPeteragent After the Bentley I would say the same lol
McLaren is a pair of tights... Ferrari a pair of stockings. - Jeremy Clarkson
YOU BOUGHT THE WRONG CAR - Also Jeremy Clarkson
Clarkson drooled all over the 458 when he reviewed it on Top Gear.
Mike McDermott Yeah but he also said the McLaren was better to drive
lamborghini is hosiery
Greeeeeeeeeeeee. That's right red.
Doug upload video, Tavarish upload a video, Hoovie upload a video
*their period synced*
Zenn Lozanno the Big 3
Doug tells you why to buy a car...
Freddy tells you how to keep it on the road...
Tyler tells you how much money you will lose when you sell it!!!
All dipshits who don't actually know much about cars but have money from subs to show you what they bought with it
Hoov's and Tav's maybe, but Doug is just an aquaintance of theirs...
@@wallynicholas5 what Doug calls his penis???
5 o'clock traffic in Kansans is 2 o'clock traffic everywhere else.
He said 5 o clock traffic and it was like 3 cars on the road. I live in Los Angeles the only time it isn't 5 o clock traffic is between 2am and 5am.
Granted he was talking about the time. The guy pulled out on a secluded street by a rich neighborhood, I think he was just voicing his concerns with potentially having issues, given he doesn't know the area.
Here's why Parker is having another BBQ
Ribs always taste better when they're grilled over a Ferrari engine.
ha. Maclaren learns fast, a lot more reliable now, probably better than Ferrari.
I presume you are talking about Parker the young gold miner on the show Gold Rush?
@@The90sGamingGuy Nah he's talking about Porker from Vehicle Virgins. You know, the guy that turned Hoovie's Ferrari into scrap metal.
Ferrari would catch on fire and the insurance check gets you a new one...
Or the Mclaren breaks all the time but has a warranty...
Boy, decisions decisions
I'm not crazy Ferrari fan, not at all. But I would choose 458 any day. McLaren looks just so sterile.
Marek, The McLaren looks like a pair Nike shoes you wear every day for five years, next to pair new Nike's you just bought.🤔
I love the mclaren looks. Its almost underpowered and i think this is nice. This makes it almost " not that agressive" but its actually a beast.
Simps
As a huge Ferrari fan growing up honestly I've fallen out of the brand since about the 458 Specialè, but I think that's due to my personal taste changing with age, I would do anything for a Spyker for example, I personally think it's gorgeous inside and out, sounds great, has the doors like a Murcièlago, and is something to talk about and open conversations that aren't generic Italian supercar questions. Don't get me wronge, I'd take a 355 GTS, 575 SuperAmercia, 599 SuperAmerica, really almost anything pre 2010. The 458 just rides that line for me, I'll admire one but never specifically dream of one. The modern McLaren line has been cool and respectable but if it came to putting money down I'd pass on pretty much everything except a nicely MSO spec'd 675 LT Spider. I really like topless cars if you haven't picked up on that.
Sterile is probably the most accurate MP4-12C description I’ve ever heard
"5 o'clock traffic"
3 cars on the 4 Lane road...
I doubt the 458 will depreciate, it’s the last naturally aspirated Ferrari :)
No it's not
It already has
It will it.... the 458 speciale aperta is only one that won't depreciate but we would able to drive it much since every mile is a big depreciation.
Last NA v8 Ferrari
Um, 812?
Amazing intro hoovie!🙌🤣
Very good timing.. Freddy's video just stopped playing as you uploaded.. Its a beautiful day
C. Ofe
Wow you’re life is empty 😂😂 Freddy should get his tits removed
You're right.. I only watch Tavarish cuz I'm jealous...
Mom and dad this is Freddy
Freddy this is my mom and dad
NOW SHOW EM THEM TITTIES!!!
does skill share teaches me how to buy cars like Hoovie?
🤣🤣🤣
Step 1. Inherit family money. Step 2. Buy cars.
DON'T
DO
IT!!!
Oh heell nawh brother that's some next level skill only hoovie and Tavarish has!
Best comment
Should've called me about that Huracan thing 😁
that intro music was beautiful.
MontieMongoose I forget the name of the piece? Anyone know what the name of that classical piece in the beginning is?
@@buyfrommason The Blue Danube by Johann Strauss II
A Black Ferrari Spider? Sounds Familiar. Where i could buy the best fire extinguisher? Haha
4:11 You know it's bad when you say that a Ferrari is " *obviously* *much* more reliable "...
"Everything just feels so much smoother--less frantic. You may chalk this up to me owning this car for a while." Said after having the car for 2 months--apparently an eternity in Hoovie time.
Start the approximate 1 month countdown to "I'm selling my McLaren MP4-12c..."
458 is way better looking... buy I would get the MP4-12C too!
"The technology already feels dated"...cuts to b-roll that was shot on a Motorola Razor V2.
I would take an F430 with a gated, personal preference, and my first super car crush
James Power relatable. Gated 360 coupe
@@kallespecki1644 SAME
@Gus Kipper neither will you
I would take the McLaren.Looks much better and not everybody has one.
Agreed the look of a McLaren is way way better, but I'm based as I love the style of the intake that's just behind the doors, and in front of the rear wheels.
The Ferrari is missing it so loses that supercar look, and I feel it's just the name that makes them sell. I notice most Ferrari models don't have that intake (or they're very tiny) which is probably why I'm not a fan of Ferrari. As well as Ferrari (and Porsche) are too much of a cliche that old rich guys buy. Whereas a Lamborghini is more unique than a Ferrari, as well as the Aventador and Gallardo have that intake styling.
The 458 is one of the most beautiful cars ever built. That McLaren will beat it...but I'd still have the 458.
It's still my favorite modern car pretty much
F8 is much better looking but sound 458 is nice.
a $150k car that catches fire or $105k car with a transmission that keeps dying every other month, hmmm, hard to choose one.
*The way he said "Now: Back to cars.."* 😍😍
@@johndoe-hr5yk yep. You guessed it. Im totally super duper double gay..
Not to mention that the 458 will appreciate due to being the better N/A setup, while the the 650 is not going to be desirable in the future.
458 is a great looking car, but this McLaren is gorgeous.
You have a unique style in presenting. You are charismatic and have the gift of the gab all coupled with a self deprecating sense of humour. Love your work from Sydney, Australia. Ps I love cars and drive a 2005 Toyota Camry. She never lets me down!
458 is up there in terms of best looking cars of all time. Fact.
No. No its not.
Even f430 is better looking
Krusher i want some of what you’ve been smoking bro 😂
@@TheNinjaCowboys hashish
Whats even more exciting than the F458: a F430 spider with a 6 speed manual!
These even hold their value pretty good.
Hey Tyler have you ever wondered about live streaming an auction where you're buying cars?
Jesus, the entire chat would just scream "BUY IT BUY IT"
@@Ryukachoo Hahahaha so true!
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458's are cool, but I like the mp4-12c more
The Ferrari aged like a rock, the Mclaren aged like an avocado
The McLaren doesn't look dated, it just looks less exciting.
Hoovie, why don't you buy an old car from the 30's?-60's
Hoovie, you need to push the suspension button on the steering wheel and the 458 is remarkably smooth car.
His review is the first I've heard that the car is 'intense' and uncomfortable on a short drive. The 458 is extremely comfortable for a supercar, even more so when I drive in "bumpy road" mode.
Take the mclaren to the nurbergring that is a tollroad not a racetrack
Sure, wanna pay for that?
Pavel Dostal exactly j you should ship the car there
@@ahmadAli-rw9hm i'm not the one making 6 figures a year doing these video's
Ferrari 458. Still one of the most beautifully shaped cars I've ever seen. Ciao!
I love Kansas 5 pm traffic!
Traffic in Kansas doesn’t exist. Try 5pm traffic in LA where it takes an hour to go 7 miles...
@@ripem1417 that's my comment. Not one car in front of him or behind him as he turns right.
What if you bought an abandoned super car from Dubai??
If my name was Doug, I would say neither car. Ford GT!
Don't listen to people tripping on the the 12C. Its so much more cutting edge design .
The start button in the S2000 is not cheesy.
An S2000 owner.
I like them, they're really gouda..
Yeah I didn’t get that... how is a simple engine start button cheesy?
@Gus Kipper With the s2000, you get the best of both worlds. You need to put the key in the ignition, turn it, and then press the start button. And you need to keep it pressed down until the engine runs. Not like on modern cars where you just need to push the button and the computer does everything for you
🤩
First time I drove a 458 I was just given the keys and left to it. I fired it up and the radio was on full, took a few minutes just to find the volume knob as its like the black space ship in Hitch Hikers guide (black buttons on a black panel labeled in black) and then had to figure out the park/hand brake...
That Ferrari is good looking, but your McLaren is just as pretty in my opinion.
Says that this is the last non turbo V8 Ferrari and goes on to talk about depreciation, I think James May would have something to say about that.
I found that an odd comment as well. McClaren's are the worst depreciating supercar, period. Ferarri's hold their value well.
That McLaren is going to depreciate a lot more here in about 3 years.
Yeah and he financed it
Ah. I know the correct answer to this: a used (new) NSX.
The 458 still looks better than the 488 and almost as nice as the f8 tributo
20/20 vision
I had a ride in a 458 Spyder and you need to press the bumpy road button, after that it's all gravy!
A new sportier front bumper would do wonders for the McLaren.
$15K parking brake failure lololol 😂🤣
MP4-12C is cheap for a reason
You get what you pay for! Supercars require constant love and attention from responsible caring owners. If you are not that person buy a 'stang? But don't buy a worn-out rat fucked neglected supercar and assume that they're all like that! Unless you're doing it to feed your youtube channel?
Because people that buy/collect super cars don’t care about mclarens, with exception to the f1.
6:08 did you film this on the McLarens backup camera?
Nope, his Mrs. drove another lead vehicle.
5 o'clock traffic.....2 cars behind you. Thank you for making me laugh.
That intro soundtrack was something else. My man!
Next video: I just bought the cheapest 458 in the USA!
It's like sitting in between 2 super models and trying to decide which one you are going to dinner with. Clearly there is no loser.
Sell the McLaren for 75k, buy a 458 for 150k then hand it to Tavarish for 50k That way you save us time on watching videos.
A bumper to (what?) extended warranty? Couldn't make that out
Bumper
Good editing hahah, I love how you try things you obviously can't accomplish perfectly, don't ever hire a proper editor or flim crew, you're the best as is!
This time on Hoovie's Garage: Doug DeMuro dons a Hoovie suit and does one of the facile reviews for which he's so famous on a Ferrari 458.
Definitely prefer that 12C engine note. I think you made the right choice on this one.
I love turbos as much as the next guy but the sound of the Ferrari N/A V8 is absolutely intoxicating in person
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Check it
i 100% would but ure hoovies so any mclaren will be perfect for u. ure allergic to anything thats remotely reliable
Zac obviously you’re oblivious to his schtick on this channel..i.e. the channel formula.
No foreign supercar is reliable. They all need constant maintenance.
@@jamalpeoples3736 and which American supercar exists that is reliable?
@@iaintdonknow Chevrolet Corvette?
@@iaintdonknow I think the the current Z06 is one. It can track the time of your beloved. It's cheap in comparison.. Plus you can can do maintenance with a 100 dollar tool kit. I men brakes, oil change and all plus that's at 40k or later.
I've driven both of these from a couple of the exotic car racing experiences and I can attest that the Ferrari is WAY more exciting to drive. I was impartial going into it, but now its my dream car. That said, I like the styling of most McLarens better
You should have bought a Camry cause it's reliable
Then he won't be entertaining us...
94. Celica, best car ever.
Camry nowday still broken down.. Toyota used too much cheap OEM too much.
Sorry this is hoovies garage, we don't take reliable cars
The 458 is one of the greatest looking cars ever made, the 12c looks generic, even the name is generic, I almost forgot that it even existed. It seems to me that you downplayed the Ferrari. If I had the money 458 would be the obvious choice.
marko galetin without a doubt! The Ferrari looks killer.
Think of spending all that money on a Ferrari and only driving 2000 miles in 7 years. You'd be better off burning your money!
Buying it new, yes, you took quite a bath on depreciation. Buying it a few years old like the one in the video, well you keep it for 4-5 years, put a few thousand miles on it, sell it for what you bought it for. Granted you'll spend several thousand dollars in maintenance, but you gotta pay to play IMO.
@@aaronbays4 I totally agree! That's why I'm gonna get a C5 corvette and procharge it with a few other things. You're lookin at $30k max if you do the work yourself. People are so dumb to pay so much money for a car that breaks every 3 months!
No the best to me is a 6 speed manual Gallardo. Your right on with the 458 vs 12c but the hurrican is to me a bit to dulled down and common. The Gallardo is cheaper and has the optional manual. So a great looking car that will gain value even with usage and is quite reliable by supercars standards. That's my vote
Can you buy the cheapest I8? there are going for about $60k now
Umer Farooq he probably would if they were worth buying.
I drove both in Vegas on a track a few years ago. The Mac is by far the most poised and track focused. But it comes down to driving style.
Busy five o'clock traffic in Wichita Kansas: 10 cars on the road.
Last time I was this early, I barley even finished typing my comment on Dougie’s video. Y’all need to interval!
Hoovie needs a Exotic car support group and should invite Travarish.
The 458 is fire 🤑
I love what you did with the front of your house.
Hoovie question, would you purchase a recreation 65 Shelby Cobra?
Blue Danube into great !!! Long time Kansas viewer and I've had lots of fun viewing your channel for many moons now. Unfortunately by the 5 minute mark I've had to endure you pimping that product followed by 2 commercial interruptions. It's too much. I started to think I was trying to watch a college basketball game on CBS. The advertising time is so dominant that it's no longer an enjoyable experience. Hopefully when your TV show airs you won't be FOCUSING on Ford Focus RS or pizza delivery cars. Don't get rid of The Wizard or you might end up like Wheeler Dealers without Edd.
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12c would be worth 45K when it is 10 years old. Beauty falls off at around 10
plus RUST 🤮🤮🤮
@@rj6110 12C has carbon fibre tub, so the chassis is fine
If you dont want a Ferrari and want something comfortable. Get an R8 V10. Way nicer than the MP4. Awesome V10 sound
Or a gallardo / huracan that sounds nice and looks better than the R8
If I already had a Rolls like Hoovie does, I would have to go with the more raw 458. There's no need for a luxury supercar when you already have the epitome of luxury.
Hoovie thought the M5 was to repair needy to keep. Wait till that Mclaren warranty expires gonna find out quick should have kept the M5.
glorious symphony!thank you Hoovie!!!
I don't want to see Ferrari's and McLarens and rolls Royce's. I want to see the Buicks,oldsmobile and hoopties.
Yup, I agree. Hooptie was an original, now he becomes thirteen in a dozen.
Also you forgot that you got the better engine when they replaced it which is cool! And for a guy who thinks a 96 Buick park Ave super is the best car of all time, the McLaren is best for Hoovie
How is Del Mar, Kansas this time of year?
They're getting ready for the fair.
When I brought my 1st super car in 2014 I compared and researched 3 brands. Ferrari 458, maclaren 12c, and lambo Gallardo. I chose the 458 as I thought and still believe it was the better choice. It was pretty much flawless. Fast forward now I was looking for my new toy and compared the 488 spider, 720s spider and huracan. I compared and chose the 720s. I try to be objective and not a brand fanboy. I feel the 720s spider is the best bang for the buck and a true multi tasking car. The early 18s were a new model and had some issues like most new models but the 19s have been much better. The other brands are still great cars but I feel the 720s spider ticks all the boxes for me!!
I wanna see the Previa!
Don't do drugs, kids!
You are a blessed man. I would take your McLaren over the Ferrari any day. I think it is beautiful. Great Vid!
This channel used to be exciting to watch as the cars were attainable for most people.
Now it's interesting but not nearly as fun to watch. Shame what some fame and money does to youtubers content...becomes unrelatable
Time to move on to a different channel
In the Ferrari you need to activate "bumpy road mode" to get the smooth ride.
12C is far more interesting than the 458. The 458 does sound damn good, though.
So when I had my dealer license a few years ago we had both a 458 coupe and roaster in inventory I drove the coupe for a month and completely agree with you about it being more technical and just not as comfortable as you would think it should be. Fun, fast, attention getter and beautiful but I was kind of happy to not drive it anymore (sold it at Barrett-Jackson). Until I drove an Aventador for a weekend. Never again for me.... but that's just me and a whole different story. Enjoy the Macky......... all the points you made are true and ya see way more 458's then them especially here in AZ so they have that cool factor especially for you in corn country.
Listened to this blind - the McLaren sounds better.
When it works..
Supercar that you can drive everyday? It's not a 'super car'. Remember...familiarity almost always breeds contempt. The 458 is memorable...the MP4 less so.
Maybe you shouldn't of bought a McLaren so early
So McLarens started as race cars but the warranty is voided if they are raced. Yep, that makes so much sense. [eye roll]
Sound? Just kick the muffler off a Dodge Neon and save yourself a quarter mil.