When and How to Use Beyond in SSF - PoE 3.25 - Beyond Guide

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  • @joshuaattard8060
    @joshuaattard8060 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    IMPORTANT!
    So to clarify on a really important note, base map inhabitants and league mechanic monsters are not created equal when it comes to beyond. It is important to note that the chance of spawning a beyond for a normal monster in the map may be 15% but a monsters from breach for example have a MUCH lower chance at spawning a portal. The more monsters a league mechanic spawns the less the chance for a beyond portal to actually spawn.
    Due to this adding mechanics such as breach and legion is not the best way to spawn more beyond monsters. The best way to spawn more beyond monsters is by adding more natural map inhabitants into the map. Things like shines and strong boxes for example are great. Ritual is another really good option. A good strategy for beyond would be something like this. Beyond with ritual and delirium. You do not need to fully spec into dele just a few points to make it spawn. Followed by map effect nodes and alters for pack size on your maps.
    As for evidence I level from 97-100 and invested completely into beyond and breach. As breach is a mechanic that spawns a lot of mobs the chance for portals to spawn are very low. Compared to the strategy above with dele and ritual, I got more tanted currency from ritual and dele in 10-15 maps than I did from level 97-100.

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes true, I've read this as well on the Wiki, about the much lower chance breach has. Although it may be offset by the ridiculous number of monsters breach spawns, so it is likely still very decent. Let me pin the comment, it is a good one.

  • @TricksterMK
    @TricksterMK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The bgm (esp tuning in and out between each section), the tone you deliver, the info flow, the logic, the clarity of the contents.. all of those show the heart and efforts you put into this. To me, and I'm not exaggerating, your stuff is much better than quite a few so called big channels. Hope you could keep making poe contents. RESPECT ❤❤❤❤

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey Trickster, thanks so much for the kind words. It's much appreciated. Happy to hear you pick up on the details.

    • @TricksterMK
      @TricksterMK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Thyworm well deserved and enjoy your vocation!!

  • @Woll5
    @Woll5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks for the videos lately man, great to have some polished SSF specific content! Subscribed 😊

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks a lot!

  • @JonathanBarratt.PhaerusIconix
    @JonathanBarratt.PhaerusIconix 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wow, endless tide no longer the go-to! that is quite the change, i never would have thought to test it again this league so thank you very much for braving it for us first generous exile!

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ye, I was a bit surprised too. It is still limited data of course, but the loot difference is so big, it is pretty clear

  • @Ferd_Turgeson
    @Ferd_Turgeson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kinda new - in POE terms anyway. Just hit 400 hours and things are starting to click - I def took the hard road - only look at Ninja for a general idea of things and have recently really committed to reading the wiki and learning things a mechanic at a time…. happy to say I’m now obsessed with the game. Anywho, I play SSF and your vids are super chill and I enjoy watching them. I’ve learned a bunch from you thanks. Respect. 👍

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Kinda new and 400 hours haha. But it is true, that is just the start. I'm glad you find value in the videos. So you don't follow a build guide then? That is very brave, but if you can stomach the challenges and issues, it is a great way to learn

  • @Chris-zg7ty
    @Chris-zg7ty 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting topic. Now if I just knew WTF the purpose of beyond mobs/bosses were!

  • @Tom_Rose
    @Tom_Rose 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the guide!
    What do you think about using beyond to farm div cards? I'm trying to farm a rysthlatsas coil and tried using this tech with delirium, ritual and ambush to spawn more beyond monsters, but I'm not sure how effective it is.

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm not sure that would work. I guess the main question is if beyond monsters are considered in a similar fashion to native map monsters, and thus can drop div cards. I think they can, but that's just me

    • @Tom_Rose
      @Tom_Rose 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Thyworm you mean local div cards or div cards in general? Cause the whole idea was to use the node for beyond monsters drop 30% increased div cards

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All div cards are local since this league, no? General div cards do no longer exist it seems?

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What I think happened in my case is that I scried div cards to a new map, ran beyond on that map, and the beyond monsters seemed to drop the scried div cards. But again, not easy to tell if it was exactly a beyond monster dropping it, or an altar monster or a monster that just didn't die yet

  • @CG_INcrease
    @CG_INcrease 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what do u think is the best setup to farm a specific div card from a specific map, a mix between div scarabs and ambush scarabs?

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe the best is to scry the div card using the Nameless Seer to a map you enjoy running, which makes everything a lot easier. And then indeed the div card scarabs and just as much juice as you can get on these maps.

  • @timoftelucian4635
    @timoftelucian4635 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can you make a video about alva? how is temple this league?

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I made one last league, a whole guide. I don't think anything changed?
      th-cam.com/video/V6xqkV_3oa0/w-d-xo.html

  • @Elchameau504
    @Elchameau504 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    any unique atlas tree working to farm uniques on ssf? i reached my goal with my chars and want to loot for fun and do whatever build i drop the unique for

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm still trying out a few things, but nothing is as broken as the strategy last league. Tormented spirits and or rogues with massive pack size might be the way.

  • @chill110
    @chill110 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video, I may have missed it but do the Beyond monsters drop gold?

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They don't, at the moment

  • @stealthycat8113
    @stealthycat8113 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Has anyone figured out the actual mechanics for use of shipping and dust with the 3.25.1 changes?

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Someone perhaps. I'm doing some tests with just food and dust. I've only shipped a few things, but so far it doesn't look all that different to be honest. The changes may have mostly impacted the risk attached to larger shipments, and perhaps not so much the rewards.

  • @aetheriality
    @aetheriality หลายเดือนก่อน

    how dangerous are beyond monsters for HC?

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think in high tier maps, pretty dangerous

  • @CG_INcrease
    @CG_INcrease 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh damn the ammount of mythic orbs seems quit lacking, i neee to farm about a 100 of them, thats gonna be fun

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a small sample size of course, but I didn't get many at all.

  • @StatTheMusicFinder
    @StatTheMusicFinder 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have a starting atlas tree for this season? I just started ssf. Thx

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have. I have a video over here: th-cam.com/video/fncU8jyPNVk/w-d-xo.html and also in the description you can find a bunch of resources

  • @soupervised
    @soupervised 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    could i ask for the PoB ? wanna double check the ignite nodes etc

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      pobb.in/3RbuHSbe2OUj

  • @CuteDog_
    @CuteDog_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FIRST

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Again Sir, how do you keep doing it.

  • @tobiaslarsen2302
    @tobiaslarsen2302 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hm. Not very attractive mechanic for me.

    • @Thyworm
      @Thyworm  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It does attract beyond demons though. I mean, that is something