CADILLAC BREMBO BRAKE SWAP FOR YOUR SUBARU WRX ON THE CHEAP- HOW TO INSTALL PT-06
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- What's up guys in this video I show you how to install the Cadillac ATS 4 Pot Brembo Brakes on your Subaru for as little as $600 bucks!
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Subaru and Scion 4 Piston ATS Caliper Big Brake Bracket Kit
This big brake bracket kit allows you to install 2015 Cadillac ATS 4 piston Brembo calipers onto the front of your Subaru BRZ, Scion FR-S, Subaru WRX, Subaru Forester, and many other similar Subaru models using a 5x100 bolt pattern 326mm (12.8") 2004 STI rotor.
If you have a 2015+ WRX you will need 2005 5x114.3 STI rotors
This kit requires-
Both front 2013-2015 ATS Brembo calipers
2004-2007 Cadillac CTS-V brake pads
2004-2007 Cadillac CTS-V Caliper pin kit
2004 STI 5x100 front rotors
This will work on Subaru's including pre-2015 WRX's, Legacy's, Foresters, Outbacks, Impreza's, and any other Subaru that you are able to swap factory STI Brembo's onto.
Below are all the parts with links you need for the Install of you BBK:
ACDelco 172-2587 GM Original Equipment Front Passenger Side Disc Brake Caliper Assembly geni.us/7OEiC3 [Amazon]
ACDelco 172-2586 GM Original Equipment Front Driver Side Disc Brake Caliper Assembly geni.us/tyE6BT3 [Amazon]
Centric 950.47507 Brake Line Kit geni.us/XgFl9y [Amazon]
950.47006 Stoptech Stainless Steel Braided Brake Line Front geni.us/hjRFG [Amazon]
Stop Tech 950.47507 Stainless Steel Brake Lines Rear geni.us/Q6fQd [Amazon]
ATE 706202 Original TYP 200 DOT 4 Brake Fluid - 1 Liter geni.us/5QAL [Amazon]
StopTech 125.47019 2004 Subaru STI 5x100 12.8” rotors Premium Brake Rotor geni.us/6VRujC [Amazon]
ACDelco 18K1971X Professional Front Disc Brake Caliper Hardware Kit geni.us/JEezs [Amazon]
Total Cost for Brand New Brembo’s with Race Pads and steel braided lines front and rear $860.59
If you want drilled and slotted Rotors 2004 Subaru STI 5x100 12.8” rotors
StopTech (127.47019L) Drilled and Slotted 5x100mm Brake Rotor geni.us/G10M [Amazon] $121.97
StopTech (127.47019R) Drilled and Slotted 5x100mm Brake Rotor geni.us/DTUBA [Amazon] $121.97
www.ctsvbrakesw... mounts $220.00
Milwaukee 48-89-2740 9/16-Inch Thunderbolt Black Oxide Drill Bit geni.us/cBAis [Amazon]
Muteki 32905B SR Series Black 12mm x 1.25mm SR48 Open End Lug Nut Set geni.us/wXNy [Amazon]
ARP 1007716 Wheel Stud Kit for Subaru geni.us/v6zw [Amazon]
2004-2007 CADILLAC CTS V Hawk HPS Front Brake Pads geni.us/9g9VIIs [Amazon]
Cheapest Setup
StopTech 125.47019 Premium Brake Rotor geni.us/6VRujC [Amazon] $70.39 + $12.99 Shipping X 2 = 166.76
ACDelco 172-2587 GM Original Equipment Front Passenger Side Disc Brake Caliper Assembly geni.us/ecGMA [Amazon] $86.06
ACDelco 172-2586 GM Original Equipment Front Driver Side Disc Brake Caliper Assembly geni.us/D1eNO0M [Amazon] $81.17
ACDelco 18K1971X Professional Front Disc Brake Caliper Hardware Kit geni.us/JEezs [Amazon] $17.51
ACDelco 17D1050M Professional Semi-Metallic Front Disc Brake Pad Set geni.us/BMUTl0 [Amazon] $34.69
www.ctsvbrakesw... $220.00
Total Cost for Brand New Brembo’s 606.19
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Gained another sub here, man! I hope you blow up! Your demeanor, content and especially quality of video are fantastic! So I have got to know, what camera did you use to shoot this video?
Cheers!
+Aaron McFarlane thanks man really appreciate it. It's a canon 70d check my video description It has all the gear I use with Amazon links.
When you said blow up in your comment I thought you were referring to his ej at first... I think that makes me a bit of a subie guy haha!
i know I'm kind of off topic but does anybody know a good website to watch new series online ?
@Eddie Talon I dunno I watch on flixportal. You can find it through google :P -enrique
@Enrique Charles Definitely, been using Flixportal for since march myself :D
I love the acid green brembo logo!
Removing important shields, not oiling the tap. Good stuff.
A few misconceptions:
-Keep the shields, they will protect the rubber joints from the heat of the brakes. The heat will kill the joints from the racetrack.
-Rubber lines don't deflect remotely close enough to notice. Regular braided lines also have to be replaced every 2 years.
-XP8 pads are not enough for the heat this car is going to generate on the racetrack, XP10 at the least, XP12 recommended with that horsepower and weight.
-Don't use race pads if you are scared of brake noises
-Only use steel nuts for the wheel
-Lastly, stickers don't matter, it's a performance part, not stance nation rice club.
you forgot to mention the front bias the car will now have affecting it's performance at the track. It's good to have good front brakes but when you neglect the rears and the fronts are doing all the work you're basically hurting your track times especially on turns when the nose will dive forward every time you brake.
you forgot to mention the front bias the car will now have affecting it's performance at the track. It's good to have good front brakes but when you neglect the rears and the fronts are doing all the work you're basically hurting your track times especially on turns when the nose will dive forward every time you brake.
you forgot to mention the front bias the car will now have affecting it's performance at the track. It's good to have good front brakes but when you neglect the rears and the fronts are doing all the work you're basically hurting your track times especially on turns when the nose will dive forward every time you brake.
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Dude this is so awesome thanks for making this video! Screw the sti brembo swap its so expensive. Just subbed to the channel keep it up bro!
Kind sir, you speak very clear and don't say uhm every other word. Thank you for that! Also, very nicely detailed and quality video. TH-cam needs more tutorials like this.
Just found your channel and just bought my first project car. It's a bugeye thanks for the tips you earned a subscriber
+Ian Jacob no prob glad you like the channel.
Sir, thank you. Video helped out a whole lot. my stopping power is incredible compared to my stock.
Subaru Love glad I could help out!
i pretty much hate all car channels other than mcm lol, but i dig this one. has some good info and what not. Probably end up doing this brake swap on my car in the near future.
Thanks for the video!! Just picked up the whole kit from a dude that was selling it so now I just have to buy the break rotors
Sick
i love this brake upgread! i wanted to do it on my 240, but it wasn't 5 lug!
I know I love it already. The CTS-V 6 pots on the 240 are SO DOPE!!
I've been watching your videos for quite some time now and I still can't figure out why your channel hasn't blown up yet! all your videos are good and really informative..anyway I look forward to the review and if they turn out to be decent it looks like that's my next upgrade for my forester.
+Travis Anderson thanks Travis make sure to share the video to help my channel grow.
Great video man can't wait to do this, better than spending 800-1000 on STI brembos
+Christopher Roldan thanks!
Should make a video showing how to bleed the brembo's, since they have dual bleeders unlike the stock calipers.
Been looking forward to this episode, so sick!
Man that's a cool conversion! They look the same as Evo Brembo's. Sweet video
dude props with the best angles you can possible do and recording it!
+bien mendoza Thanks Bien glad you liked all the angles.
I don’t usually subscribe to any channel but this video has been extraordinarily helpful to me and I like what you are doing so I’m subscribed... thank you for all the detailed work and the amazing video quality. Would be awesome to see you post links for the 15+ rotors but they can be found. Thank you again
really diggin these vids bud. I feel like Im right there with ya. Thanks for the detail and step by step instructions. I'm looking at a new STI in a few months, and its nice to know I can do this stuff myself!
Hell yeah that's exactly what I make these video's for glad I can help.
You’re just a crazy guy with knowledge in upgrading your subi. Very informative video. Thanks a lot
Awesome video! I wish I knew this a year ago when I had to change out my rotors... StopTech slotted and drilled sport rotors don't even compare the a big brake kit and calipers...
I subbed because of the beard. A real man's accessory. Also, the brakes are beast.
+MaddoxInc haha thanks for the sub man.
Anyone know what size the spacers are that come in this kit?
best subaru channel...hands down
Congrats on 10k dude! So sweeeeet! This is an epic mod I totally would gave done this if I hadn't of upgraded to the sti!
I know right the stock brakes are poo poo!
Great video! Are you going to post a review of how good or bad they actually perform? Very curious to see how you like them because you drive your car hard.
Good job on the install. That looks great and I'm sure it's world of improvement with your braking department!
I’m supporting this guy forsure man his videos are super helpful. Thank you
Can't wait for the test drive! I'm definitely nervous to bore and tap those holes for the mounting bracket.
+Code3WRX it really is a lot easier than it seems.
Ascent calipers are twin piston and larger diameter, and made to stop a car that weights 1000# more than an Outback and is rated for towing 2000# more.
These brakes on a WRX would have the effect of throwing out a large anchor, and bolt right up with just longer mounting bolts.
I haven't watched the video yet, but I know it's going to look fresh!
+Krishan Govin thanks Krishan they do look awesome!
Would this modification fit a 2005 blob eye usdm wrx?
And
Do you think that this is better than a jdm caliper swap?
I’m trying to get as much information about this modification. Thank you so much for the video !’
Props for all the information provided and links! I already have brembo's but I watched the video anyway.
Nice video! That's such a killer setup for the money
Very informative video man. I will be follow your steps when i swap my brakes in the future!
I would have used a second wrench on the female end of the SS line to ensure a firm fit instead of using the stamped steel “ bracket.”
Should have left the Cadillac logo as it was from factory, it looked sweet but I don't blame you for changing it. Looks good either way!
+MaddoxInc I thought about it.
You coulda named it the CadiWREX!
MaddoxInc HAHAHA!
Did you notice more travel in the pedal after the conversion?
A lot easier than I thought. I really want to buy some
+Ali Chaudhry DO IT!
Thanks, found this helpful. Did you notice wearing on the pad a little off? Like they were sitting slightly above the edge of the rotor?
it's the whole setup, rotor, braided lines, rear ebc pads, and calipers, and mount bracket asking 700 obo.... for complete set, comes with fluid...
This was an awesome video. I'm probably gonna do the same on my '03 WRX. thanks for the DIY
Congrats on 10k Blake! Great video as always dude
+Evan L. Thanks Evan!
Nice this just popped up in my sub box and has 200+views already! also you can use some saran wrap over your lug nuts before sliding your socket on that will stop them from getting skuffed up if your undoing your wheel nuts all the time for mods and track days if your socket is a super tight fit it wont work but thats what i use on my snapon sockets and no marks so far :) the painting you did on those calipers looks fricking mint. hehe look at that lovely new steering rack and tie rods:P your only 16 subs off 10k man! all the best!
+Jolinator Dude awesome idea! I will use that for sure! Thanks.
Thats a good tip, im goign to try that- thanks!
i did the swap, all works great. I noticed my pads to overlap the top of the rotors by about 2mm. is this something you also found?
lmao i dont even have a subaru so this is completely useless information to me. But you make these videos so easy to follow i feel like its a piece of cake.
Thanks Juan! Now you will know what to do if you ever get one or have a buddy that needs help.
Didnt look through so not sure if it was mentioned or not but it looked like you but the hardware in the caliper upside down. The little curves in the spring are ment to go under the slides. It might work the way it is but it might cause abnormal wear
You seem to have a lot of knowledge! Love these videos man!
+JellyFishJuices Thanks dude!
yet another project I get to figure out if I can make it work on my OBXT... dam you lol... great work.. subscribed
Great video Blake! Congrats on 10k
Thanks, Clint!
Looking sick. Can't wait to see the stock wheels over them.
+Benton Plunkett I have a quick clip on that. I will post it in a few days.
What about the rear brakes? Is there a swap for that?
Very nice vid Blake, I can't wait to hear a review on them.
Damn dude!! This was a fantastic video, very well done - excellent DIY / instructions. I mean, I don't think I can do this on my 2016 wrx hahaha but I still watched and can respect the efforts and work you did bro awesome!! PS; The turbo snail beard tee is f*cking epic hahaha!!
+NinjaxBart Thanks Dude. It will work on the 16 WRX you just need 5x114.3 rotors. I glad your digging the T-Shirt.
Do an update video please? Wondering about brake bias and how well the "torque vectoring" is working with these new brakes.
How about proportioning from front to rear? There is a factory proportioning valve so when you press the break pedal it sends specific pressure to the front and to the rear. Now that the front has changed the rear will need to be compensated for.
I didn’t seem to have much of an imbalance
@@BlakesGarage good to know. Once I'm done with the upgrade I'll try and lock them up without ABS and if the rear locks up first I put a new prop valve in.
Great tutorial bro. The channel has come far, keep on at it. Btw beard on point now only if I can grow a full bread that would be mint.
Thanks Benny!
This video is very pragmatic I love it, thanks bro. Question can this be done to my 98 legacy outback Gt 2.5?
and if you press the brake pedal with a stick or prybar before you start you loose almost no oil from the hose and it doesnt constantly leak
Please do a Brembo upgrade for the Subaru Impreza non WRX owners. on the 16 inch rims.
Hey, Blake! Great job on the video man! I have a 2016 WRX and am wanting to do this eventually. Are you planning to do a rear brake upgrade video?
Yes I will eventually. Trying this out for now to see what I think. I'm really liking the upgrade so far.
You're replacing a floating caliper, with what looks like a one piece caliper. The rotor is not really floating since it will be held in place by the wheel lugs. You should always use two piece floating rotors with a one piece caliper, otherwise you will have uneven pad wear and loss of braking power. Also the new bracket seems to be made of aluminum, hopefully it will be strong enough as the other steel components around it and not flex during heavy braking.
Since it has not been two long since this video was posted, I assume there hasn't been much wear on components. Please keep a close eye on your pad wear pattern and update people if there are problems, in the interest on safety. Advertising a potentially problematic and possibly unsafe upgrade is obviously something no one wants.
Also, not sure if Subaru recommends hubcentric wheel mounting. If so, you have also reduced the amount of hub ring on which with wheel should rest.
Hopefully everything works out for you.
Thanks.
Well thats just patently false...
I know this video has been out for a little while and I love your series. Great info and fun. I'm planning on doing this myself with my '16 wrx but wonder if there is a difference between getting the brakes you used or if the "V" brakes are virtually the same thing or could they offer better performance? On the site it does say it's a "V" kit but I believe the ones you used are the standard CTS berm no brakes. I may be wrong...
You need to use these calipers:
ACDelco 172-2587 GM Original Equipment Front Passenger Side Disc Brake Caliper Assembly amzn.to/1SrwQI0 ACDelco 172-2586 GM Original Equipment Front Driver Side Disc Brake Caliper Assembly amzn.to/1U460oz They do use the CTSV calipers for some of the other car brands that they make spacers for, But the Subaru kit requires these. Check the description for all the links to the parts needed.
outstanding job on the video and links Blake - thanks!
Nice install ! will you put a video on about bleeding your brakes ?
10k!!!!! Congrats
+Do Boy's Garage Thanks Man!
sucks that the price for the cadillac brembos are now like 170. I think they may have caught on
congrads on 10k! love the vids! keep up the great work!
Everyone wants ridiculous money for sti Brembos, I’ve been saying for a while how much better of a deal camaro or CTS-V brembos are! Didn’t know people were putting them on subies though!
just alittle fyi to make your life easier, if you turn the wheel to the opposite side you are working on it will create alittle more working room and you could probably avoid removing the lower strut bolt
HAHA oh yeah good idea! Next time.
I love the vid but I wonder will it fit my subaru SH 2012? I know a lot of impreza parts fit but I want to be sure before making the investment.
Great vid Blake, keep up the good work. Have you experienced any pad knockback with the new brembos?
+slobson No I haven't noticed anything.
I have removed my dust covers before. Now I have to clean my rims weekly or they look black all the time.
Please do a video on a regular 2010 Impreza, brake upgrade.
a NON- WRX or non STi
Why? This will work just the same. It is exactly the same upgrade.
Nice Video. May I know the measurement for The Caliper Bracket Between top and bottom. It 130mm or 140mm
Respect for all the work and the video, but wouldn't be (alot) easier and cheaper just to get some STi gold brembos?
This is much cheaper. Also all new parts. If you get a great deal on some STI Brembos then maybe, but you run the possibility that they are stripped out and you would still need to buy new pads/rotors.
This is cheaper? How much is this? A set of Brembo gold, in europe, with rotors and pads, you can get it for 600-700€ from various respectfull sellers.
Pedro Teixeira You can do this as cheep as 600 USD for the fronts all new. For new Brembos your talking 1200 USD for the front.
dude that was awesome. nice work :D is this a brake swap only for the front ?
Yeah just for the front for now.
got a theoretical question about the wheel spacer, i'm assuming its only like 5mm, but can't you just install 5mm Washers in between the brake mounting bracket and the new caliper. Like where the 2 bolts go, that way the pads can still be even? I think it would eliminate the need for a spacer, and it would push out the caliper 5mm instead of the rotor 5mm if that makes sense. I think that's what i'm going to try when i install this kit to avoid using the spacer and extended lugs. Thanks for the install vid btw!
+Brian Lee no do not do that. They make a spacer for a reason and it's hubcentric. Putting washers behind the wheel is not a good idea at all. Also washers are almost never the same thickness.
Brian Lee wouldn't work anyway. the caliper is already too far out, that's why You're spacing the rotor out. the alternative would be to move the caliper in, but you can't because it's already up against the steering knuckle.
What size spacer did you use and where did you get it?
Sorry, one more question Blake. How are those Brembo decals holding up under the heat of braking? Where did you get them from again?
badass video brotha, super sick setup!!
love watching the beard grow as the channel does
Did you make a follow up video on bedding in the breaks and if you gotting any squeeking after the install?
Out of curiosity, would you happen to have a measurement for the caliper mounting bolt spacing for the new caliper?
Bro absolutely astounding! I am going to do this shit to my 2016 WRX.
+Michael Vereecke Do it you will love it. I have all of the links for the parts you need in the description.
Did you ever upgrade your rear caliper or run more aggressive pad? Scoping out this upgrade for my VA WRX
If you keep the brake pedal pressed in, you will stop brake fluid from leaking.
serious question....how do we know these are better? what is better about them? These are just two piston.....are they much bigger?
Very nice install! 👍🏻Your rotors came off way too easy. Lol. I have changed rotors on 2 cars & both times needed to use the bolt holes. I'll be changing rotors on my STi either later this week or next, I hope mine come off that easy. Lol.
+HawkeyeSTiGuy Thats that Cali weather.
Blake's Garage Lucky. Lol. The threads on my coilovers are completely seized up too from the salt & moisture, so I can't adjust ride height either. Lol. They do need rebuilt though, but I may make a video on how to break them free, once I figure it out myself. I will kneed a huge 'FH'. 'Haha.
Hey man what’s up l. Now did the swap on my FRS can you tell me what rim you using an the offset on the rim most important looking forward to your response
For that wheels set up, did you need wheel spacers to clear front brembo calipers?
Okay so how have they worked so far?
I noticed the brake pad hangs over the rotor a little did that affect anything? Did you have any other problems with the pads?
So Blake another Subie guy here looking for Brake options for my WRX. So what about the rears???
I really want to do this but I wonder if I should wait...my car is still pretty new < 10k mi and I want to do things that are more "warranty" friendly and people always recommend doing things like brakes/suspension. With nothing wrong with either I probably should be a little more patient. Maybe I'll just start slowly piecing this together over time so it doesn't seem like so much at once...even though this is already far cheaper than a traditional bbk.
It will effect anything with the warranty besides the brakes. Life's to short to stay stock!
The caliper pins should have some type of locking pin so they don't slide out(cotter pin)?
Nope not these, they have a compression piece on the end to keep them seated.
Great video! is there a way to get these in the rear also?
Are these real OEM Brembo calipers that ACDelco (reseller) is selling? Or is ACDelco the actual brand of the calipers? I'm confused why you put that "Brembo" sticker on it.
Awesome video mate!
Do you know if these would fit Rota Grid R 18x9.5+38?
How would you compare these to the STI calipers? Also will this fit behind my 17” wheels?
Wow. Awesome work man. I wanna do this to my 2017 wrx.
+drewgunner14 You will love it! Such a good value for the increase in performance.
+Blake's Garage question did you just put sticker over the cadillac logo and replaced it with the neon brembo?
+Blake's Garage and now you mentioned performance, have you tested 0-60? Theres one dude here in youtube who only had about 3-4 ft difference from the stock.
drewgunner14 Yes I painted the caliper black then put a Brembo sticker one that.
Sup dude! Thanks so much for the detailed info on the video! Quick question , are you having any issues with the brake pads overhanging? If not, how are your pads holding up? Thanks so much in advance!
Yeah, if I remember correctly, the brake pad is overhang just a little bit. It’s not really a problem as it will wear and work fine
If you wanted to call a company like G-Loc, you could ask for a custom set of pads and they could probably take a bit off the top for you if you’d like
@@BlakesGarage nice thanks for the plug! I’ll definitely give them a shout :)