I am a coach and I was listening your podcasts about overload eccentrics, you published it right before I was jumping into my cycle with overload eccentrics. Today was the first session and I was also doing overloaded eccentrics for the first time myself and I didn't try it with my athletes yet because I want to test something on myself to gain practical knowledge before applying it to my athletes. Back Squat part of the Session was supposed to be: 1. 92% of 1RM AMRAP, based on which I was choosing the weight for next sets 2. 105% of 1RM overloaded eccentric 10 reps (I had to change the weight myself so it was 1set 10 reps or 10 sets of 1 rep depends how you want to call it) I noticed few issues: -weight is not challenging in the 180-90 degree of knee flexion -weight is not challangind under parallel (about 60 degrees) because it was just falling so weight was only challanging in the 90-60 degree of knee flexion I wasn't training anything in quarter squat position nor in the deep squat I tried to play around with it and came with an idea to attach 2 middle resistance bands to the barbell and I lowered the weight of the barbell from 105% of 1RM to 99% of 1RM resistance of the barbell was looking something like this: 130% of 1RM on the top 120% of 1RM in the quarter squat 110% of 1RM in the half squat band was totally loose right above parallel so: 99% of 1RM in parallel 99% of 1RM in deep squat this fixed all the problems, now barbell was challanging from 120 degree knee flexion - 45 degree knee flexion instead of 90-60 and I could focus on deep position also as I was able to control the barbell nearly to totally deep squat Time under tension lengthen from 4s to 6s what do you think about applaying this type of strategy to advanced/elite athletes? (im intermediate myself). can this mess them up due to lengthen time under maximal tension? or just by decreasing the number of reps we can upgrade it like this? attaching band enables to train under maximal tension in more specific posistions(because you achive max tension under the quarter squat instead of half squat), is this a pro? my practical suggestion in the cycle periodization would look like this if in one cycle you want to train 6 sessions with overloaded eccentrics: session one: 104% of 1RM - 12 reps total session two: 98-102% of 1RM with bands having similar resistance as earlier discussed - 9 reps total session three: 104% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total session four: 106% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total session five: 108% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total session six: 110% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total in classic way of decreasing volume and increasing intensity (volume decrease because time under tension and time under maximal tension are going down with constantly increasing % of 1RM)
Love the idea of the bands, also that you're the guinea pig before you make your athletes do it😂but fr you bring up some really interesting points, the session periodization seems really sound in theory. I might expirement with this if I can find some good bands
@@bluepul9140 lots of injuries, lots of miles...got my first dunk at 14, so it's been over 23 years of jumping a ton. I also was horrible about resting injuries, and didn't know how to work out properly back in the day
Imagine this wasn't about jumping high but sprinting fast😮. I mean those guys arent just very smart in terms of jump programming. They also show up! Sprinting is another level. We all now speed kills! More interest, more need, more money! But also a lot more difficult to improve..
@@JohanLo-b8h i might be mistaken but i think if you click a link on the free week of jump training in the bio it takes you to the skool page then u just have to look around for it there
Isaiah dropping gems:
"You only understand it's worth it, once you've been consistent with it"
All Star cast
Bro Donovan kept a straigh face through the entire podcast
frrr tho i noticed too 😂😂
Finally THP having guests again
I am a coach and I was listening your podcasts about overload eccentrics, you published it right before I was jumping into my cycle with overload eccentrics. Today was the first session and I was also doing overloaded eccentrics for the first time myself and I didn't try it with my athletes yet because I want to test something on myself to gain practical knowledge before applying it to my athletes. Back Squat part of the Session was supposed to be:
1. 92% of 1RM AMRAP, based on which I was choosing the weight for next sets
2. 105% of 1RM overloaded eccentric 10 reps (I had to change the weight myself so it was 1set 10 reps or 10 sets of 1 rep depends how you want to call it)
I noticed few issues:
-weight is not challenging in the 180-90 degree of knee flexion
-weight is not challangind under parallel (about 60 degrees) because it was just falling
so weight was only challanging in the 90-60 degree of knee flexion
I wasn't training anything in quarter squat position nor in the deep squat
I tried to play around with it and came with an idea to attach 2 middle resistance bands to the barbell and I lowered the weight of the barbell from 105% of 1RM to 99% of 1RM
resistance of the barbell was looking something like this:
130% of 1RM on the top
120% of 1RM in the quarter squat
110% of 1RM in the half squat
band was totally loose right above parallel so:
99% of 1RM in parallel
99% of 1RM in deep squat
this fixed all the problems, now barbell was challanging from 120 degree knee flexion - 45 degree knee flexion instead of 90-60 and I could focus on deep position also as I was able to control the barbell nearly to totally deep squat
Time under tension lengthen from 4s to 6s
what do you think about applaying this type of strategy to advanced/elite athletes? (im intermediate myself). can this mess them up due to lengthen time under maximal tension? or just by decreasing the number of reps we can upgrade it like this? attaching band enables to train under maximal tension in more specific posistions(because you achive max tension under the quarter squat instead of half squat), is this a pro?
my practical suggestion in the cycle periodization would look like this if in one cycle you want to train 6 sessions with overloaded eccentrics:
session one: 104% of 1RM - 12 reps total
session two: 98-102% of 1RM with bands having similar resistance as earlier discussed - 9 reps total
session three: 104% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total
session four: 106% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total
session five: 108% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total
session six: 110% of 1RM with those bands - 9 reps total
in classic way of decreasing volume and increasing intensity (volume decrease because time under tension and time under maximal tension are going down with constantly increasing % of 1RM)
Love the idea of the bands, also that you're the guinea pig before you make your athletes do it😂but fr you bring up some really interesting points, the session periodization seems really sound in theory. I might expirement with this if I can find some good bands
@@tommyprogress are you a thp athlete? Just asking
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No way! I was on the velosicoaster this past Sunday! That thing rips!
I've been looking forward to this...
Velocicoaster is in the top 2 of the fastest roller coasters ive been on
The new microphone is a thing, but the questions are not. Overall? Fun anyway!
i'm gonna be 38 soon and jumping is just getting tooooo hard 😫
Myree tho
Do you think it's just aging or accumulation of injuries?
@@bluepul9140 lots of injuries, lots of miles...got my first dunk at 14, so it's been over 23 years of jumping a ton.
I also was horrible about resting injuries, and didn't know how to work out properly back in the day
@@troliskimosko Myree crazy
Donovan had that mkke tyson neck
Imagine this wasn't about jumping high but sprinting fast😮. I mean those guys arent just very smart in terms of jump programming. They also show up! Sprinting is another level. We all now speed kills! More interest, more need, more money! But also a lot more difficult to improve..
Do you guys ever do jump sessions the day after lifting ?
Austin da goat 🐐🐐🥶
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W donovan
5:41 what vertical leap calculator are they referring to?
Its on the Skool page I think the link is in the description
@ found it 🙌
@@tommyprogress I can’t find it
@@JohanLo-b8h i might be mistaken but i think if you click a link on the free week of jump training in the bio it takes you to the skool page then u just have to look around for it there
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nfl combine🙂↔️
Thp combine🙂↕️
Why is it no jump coaches teach women.
highest two foot jumpers*
Highest in general
Until some elite high jumpers test their verts I doubt any one footers are in the 50” range rn
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