Mr. Giant Reacts to Why are British place names so hard to pronounce?

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  • @sheepsky
    @sheepsky ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Jay Foreman/Map Men videos are great! Definitely worth checking out some others

    • @MrGiant
      @MrGiant  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I plan to.

  • @stevelknievel4183
    @stevelknievel4183 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    There's a hill in New Zealand called Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitnatahu. Apparently it translates from Maori into English as 'the summit where Tamatea, the man with the big knees, the slider, climber of mountains, the land-swallower who travelled about, played his nose flute to his loved one'.

    • @MrGiant
      @MrGiant  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you for the comment.

    • @jimbo6059
      @jimbo6059 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kenny Everett used to say that in his television show.

  • @jackcarter5101
    @jackcarter5101 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    0:47 Leominster is 'LEMSTER', Bicester is 'BISTER', Godmanchester is 'GUMSTER' (traditionally), Loughborough is 'LUFFBURRA', and Keighley is 'KEETHLEE'.
    More examples - Ulgham is 'UFFAM', Happisburgh is 'HAYZBURRA', Milngavie is 'MULGUY', Barnoldswick is 'BARLICK', and Woolfardisworthy is 'WOOLZERY'.
    Examples local to me in North East England - Finchale is 'FINKLE', Houghall is 'HOFFLE', Prudhoe is 'PRUDDA', and Ireshopeburn is 'EYES-UP-BURN'.

  • @Mercure250
    @Mercure250 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If we stick to single-word place names, Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch is the second longest, and as people pointed out, the longest is
    Taumata­whakatangihanga­koauau­o­tamatea­turi­pukaka­piki­maunga­horo­nuku­pokai­whenua­ki­tana­tahu.
    But if we go with place names with multiple words, the longest is Bangkok, known as Krung Thep in Thai, or in its full form :
    Krungthepmahanakhon Amonrattanakosin Mahintharayutthaya Mahadilokphop Noppharatratchathaniburirom Udomratchaniwetmahasathan Amonphimanawatansathit Sakkathattiyawitsanukamprasit

    • @MrGiant
      @MrGiant  ปีที่แล้ว

      wow, I will not sttempt to pronunce those.

  • @sheepsky
    @sheepsky ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Aberystwyth doesn't sound like English because it isn't haha, it's Welsh. Actually the place I was born

    • @DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek
      @DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek ปีที่แล้ว

      Although English has celtic origins too and shares words with Welsh.

    • @sheepsky
      @sheepsky ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek English doesn’t have a Celtic origin but a Germanic one. Very few of its words come from Celtic languages

  • @fermageehamilton1402
    @fermageehamilton1402 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If you go back 500+ years ago English is extremely difficult to understand. It’s fascinating. And 500 yrs From now, I don’t think there’ll be many of us left speaking any language, we all can see what is happening with right now, we can not say anything without someone getting offended. I’m an Irish person speaking the English language who at the moment resides in the Southwest US, among the Navajo people.

    • @RenaissanceEarCandy
      @RenaissanceEarCandy ปีที่แล้ว

      We can't say anything without offending someone? What, anything? Don't talk such utter bollocks.

  • @MrGiant
    @MrGiant  ปีที่แล้ว

    Playlist:
    th-cam.com/video/lWhDUtwD3b8/w-d-xo.html

  • @johncrwarner
    @johncrwarner ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was a teacher in Britain
    and I had a young lad in my class
    from the Caribbean
    and his parents were from Barbados
    and were really nice folks
    At one parent's evening they complained
    about their son's accent changing
    from Bajan to Jamaican
    and I realised the power of the Jamaican dialect
    on Black British youth
    (like you said about understanding Reggae music)
    I taught him mathematics and my favourite thing he wrote
    was:
    "and my solooshun is ..."
    written as he spoke it.

    • @johncrwarner
      @johncrwarner ปีที่แล้ว

      BTW I used to live in Bicester
      pronounced /ˈbɪstər/

    • @TomMerson
      @TomMerson ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why have you written this like a poem

    • @johncrwarner
      @johncrwarner ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TomMerson
      I am following an American writer and academic
      called Lillian Lieber
      who described her style thus:
      "This is not intended to be
      free verse.
      Writing each phrase on a separate line
      facilitates rapid reading,
      and everyone
      is in a hurry
      nowadays."
      I learnt Einstein's Theory of General Relativity
      from Liliian's book
      written in this style
      and it is a sort of homage
      to her

  • @PeterDay81
    @PeterDay81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you sir.

  • @jameshumphreys9715
    @jameshumphreys9715 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The official name for the capital of Thailand shorten to Kung Thep, the Th is pronounced T, and a place in New Zealand with a maroi name.

  • @simondobbs4480
    @simondobbs4480 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for an insightful video, Mr Giant. I live in Leicestershire, which is pronounced "lestasha". The county town is called "Lesta" by everyone in Britain , excepting those who live there, who call it ""lesto"- the final O rhyming with cop or shop.

    • @MrGiant
      @MrGiant  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have heard of Leicestershire, not a lot but know of the place by name.

    • @simondobbs4480
      @simondobbs4480 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrGiant it is beautiful. Do visit. I would love to shake you by the hand, because I really appreciate your videos and insights.

  • @gavingiant6900
    @gavingiant6900 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is from Wikipedia so I don't know how true it is, Taumata­whakatangihanga­koauau­o­tamatea­turi­pukaka­piki­maunga­horo­nuku­pokai­whenua­ki­tana­tahu. A hill in New Zealand.

    • @MrGiant
      @MrGiant  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow that crazy, someone else pointed this out.

  • @jaycee330
    @jaycee330 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:54 There are several Ohio towns that have different than expected pronunciations, Bellfontaine (bell-FOUNTAIN), Russia (roo-SEEYA), Cairo (KAY-row) etc.

  • @darrylbrookes2780
    @darrylbrookes2780 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    living in england i have to speak "american" to alexa or google so they understand
    its strange but unless ya speak like harry potter or the queen its never gunna get it .
    there must be 2 many not important enuff dialects and acsent in england to program in or somthing

  • @jimbo6059
    @jimbo6059 ปีที่แล้ว

    My father came from Pedro district. I lived there for a year as a kid in the early 1980s. Opposite the Gordon's shop and bar on the road towards Brownsall. Went to Watermount all age school. Then we moved the Havendale in St Andrews/Kingston. I went to St Richards primary school on the red hills road and Meadowbrook high school for a year and a half. Then the family returned to the UK.

  • @markrichardson3421
    @markrichardson3421 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love listening to you. My uncle (sadly no longer with us) was from Carriacou. I used to love listening to him talk.

    • @MrGiant
      @MrGiant  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice place Carriacou, you should visit there if you have not already.

    • @markrichardson3421
      @markrichardson3421 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Mr. Giant one of my cousins visits to see their side of the family. My side is shockingly British so I've often thought of visiting but don't know if I'd cope with the heat.

    • @MrGiant
      @MrGiant  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markrichardson3421 The heat is not so bad, what with the constant ocean breeze.

  • @JuneWrench
    @JuneWrench ปีที่แล้ว

    Use to live about 5 miles from Godmanchester is how you pronounce I

  • @flumpah
    @flumpah ปีที่แล้ว

    Its a place in New Zealand I think , look up Quantum Jump on here, they say it on the song opening, I have to admit to spending many hours learning that, I still know it .. 🤪

  • @bobclarke1815
    @bobclarke1815 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They all had a peace, and now they have all peaced off

  • @jaycee330
    @jaycee330 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:02 Because it's not, it's Welsh (Cymmrag).

    • @jaycee330
      @jaycee330 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same as Llanfairpwllgwllchwyrn....etc.

  • @timglennon6814
    @timglennon6814 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The longest place name in the world is in New Zealand. The Welsh one is the second longest.

    • @MrGiant
      @MrGiant  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you.

    • @ThatDamnPandaKai
      @ThatDamnPandaKai ปีที่แล้ว

      The Welsh one is the longest name for a municipality, the NZ one is just the name of a hill (which is on private property)

  • @bryansmith1920
    @bryansmith1920 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ting that' your ting, That is why the World needs a language Humans need to be able to communicate to avoid missing our intent, Let us not allow Bigots to destroy the Human Net-work,

  • @TomMerson
    @TomMerson ปีที่แล้ว

    They didn't talk about it in the video (although they showed a photo of the road sign) but I have no idea why Godmanchester always comes up in things like this. It's pronounced as it looks.

    • @stevelknievel4183
      @stevelknievel4183 ปีที่แล้ว

      Historically the locals pronounced it as though it were spelled 'Gumster'. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_irregularly_spelt_places_in_the_United_Kingdom

    • @TomMerson
      @TomMerson ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevelknievel4183 I'm aware, but historically most places were pronounced/spelt differently to now, but Godmanchester always gets mentioned for some reason.

  • @grahamsangster1042
    @grahamsangster1042 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm from menzieshill which is pronounced meeniss-hill,we have an extinct volcanoe called The Law which people call the law hill,Law means Hill in scottish so saying the law hill is like the hill hill 😂,people still say law hill

    • @MrGiant
      @MrGiant  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is funny lol.

  • @jaycee330
    @jaycee330 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:45 Taumatawhakatangi­hangakoauauotamatea­turipukakapikimaunga­horonukupokaiwhen­uakitanatahu (Taumata) in New Zealand.

    • @jaycee330
      @jaycee330 ปีที่แล้ว

      Llanfairpwllgyll is the shorter version of the Welsh village, often abbreviated to Llanfair PG.

  • @johnp8131
    @johnp8131 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nobody, but nobody here pronounces Godmanchester, "Gumster"? I live within 10 miles of it and I've known people that live there for over forty years. Must have been said once, by someone semi-literate with a heavy cold!!!!

  • @flumpah
    @flumpah ปีที่แล้ว

    And Americans say Urbs for Herbs...

  • @flumpah
    @flumpah ปีที่แล้ว

    Slaithwaite in Yorkshire is pronounced slawit, its not to far from where I live in the Pennines

    • @MrGiant
      @MrGiant  ปีที่แล้ว

      Its quite interesting learning where the names came from.

    • @flumpah
      @flumpah ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrGiant Accents are another thing the UK has a lot of, in my area people's vocalisation was modified by the type of machinery used in the local cotton mill, Fred Dibnah had a very "Northern" accent, they have become tempered over time and are less abrupt sounding now, but you can still tell, people from Bolton, Fred Dibnah and Peter Kay have very strong accents, the older generation used to be able to locate a specific area sometimes to street level.. by their vocalisation, i am 62 and I got the tail end of the generation that applied to.

  • @gagada124
    @gagada124 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remember, you are trying to pronounce these places with todays alphabet and mindset, when these placenames are 1000 years old at least, some 2000 years, and are made up of several languages including old English, Saxon, Viking etc. Think of all the Native American places you have in the US, these are not even English.