Look at mercedes.. its 200% temu😂 i really like that the new light bar. Looks really solid! And quality and bmw is like🤝🏻. Audi, Merc and other quality is getting worse.. but bmws is still very nice. For eyes and fingers.
Honestly, the whole interior does. That bland styling with the tacked on screen looks cheap as hell. Personally, I prefer an RS6 interior over this 1000% of the time. Both have their climate controls in a screen which is total BS, but at least the screens on the RS6 look integrated into the interior design... not like this monstrosity.
Facts. I don't think people should compare it to the F90. They're way different. Let's appreciate the previous gen for what it is ( Pure performance car ) while this is a modernized F60 with a hybrid motor to help make it more suitable as a daily while keeping the power of the M car.
~180kg (~10%) increase is justifible with AWD, extra power of S58 engine and torque converter to handle the extra torque, plus the comfort functions and wider front tire. Most importantly, G82 is faster. ~500kg (~25%) increase but slower is another story. 2.46t is the league of RR21. Keep in mind that G12 M760i weights 2.3t, with a massive V12, 2 alternators, 3 12V batteries and loads of default comfort and entertainment options.
Sadly car companies nearly have no choice to have big engines without batteries(hybrid), but new m5 just looks like fat bmw that ate up whole pallet of marshmellow
This design, both on the inside and the outside, has a very 'look what they’ve done to my boy!' vibes all over it. Dear lord, BMW, don't go down that road...
@@nikitamarynich1794 Being a hybrid means massive reliability issues in future. This thing is meant to last 5 years and be scrapped. The "way newer" technology makes it heavier and not any quicker or more efficient out of town or on the highway which is where it's always going to be. There isn't a single upside.
Have to test it myself. I rode passenger in an M8 Competition and you could absolutely tell it weighed 1900+ kg. Especially in the corner speeds and the amount of brake pedal force needed to slow it down. Difficulty believing it is not the same in the much heavier M5..... but who knows. Maybe BMW did find a magic wand to mask the weight.
I got an opportunity to look at the new G90 in detail in the BMW showroom. The exterior looks like a generically designed sports car for the Chinese market. The practicality once F90 had is now lost because trunk space is reduced by 63 litres in order to accommodate the hybrid battery and the active suspension system. The quality of the interior is lower than F90. Seats feel cheaper than the previous generation sports seats now having fewer adjustment points. At the bottom of the door is a hard-pack plastic with no felt padding, while F90 had a soft-touch plastic with the padding from the inside. Plastic on the console looks and feels as it is of lower quality than F90 generation. As for the 2,5 ton weight, it may not be a problem as long as the wheels have traction because the active suspension system can compensate the roll and make the heavy car stable, but if the traction is lost eg. on a wet curvy B road, the innertion could make the situation uncontrollable and pose a large risk of crashing. I was already in such a situation with a couple of other heavy car models. The slide caught me by surprise, and I barely avoided a total crash.
@Autotopnl what you describe of the gearbox, is not directly because of the electric engine but the absence of torque converter replaced by some clutches which do not provide the same smooth transitions.
Agreed totally, but the most disgusting thing I've seen in ages are those new fully electrical BMWs with a cheap-looking low resolution grill-like "paintings", looks horrible
Yup! And it doesn't have the touchscreen only ipad IOS software. Plus it has a proper shifter. But it will be gone soon. Its a shame as its the only BMW on sell today with a classic BMW interior.
Nothing better than going almost as fast as 16 year old cars, while having less room in the back seats and your braking distance being questionable at such speeds
@@gewhdwgdiwgf2313 Weight has zero benefits and affects all driving dynamics negatively. Feel free to name any, or even just one benefit of weight in a car.
@@jackdoe3889The car will feel planted onto the ground due to the low centre of gravity, improved safety since their huge mass absorbs the impact of the crash. Comfortable ride for a performance car.
For the first time ever as a BMW lover of M5 series, I'm kinda left disappointed. F90 was the last of the beautiful body lines and heart throbbing performance! Great video overall👌🏾
@@tshepanglesufi9958That and the car just looks bloated. The rear looks very off and the headlights have such little presence because they went with cat eyes and were prioritising an LED grille...
F90 prices will skyrocket, that car was perfect. I can't afford any but I'll have a look at what audi has to offer, hope they haven't hired chinese boat designers.
Dude are u guys slow? U still trust bmw on paper numbers jesus. Go check out Joe Achillies review he just uploaded he got 3.1 sec 0-60 and this guy got 7.13 60-130 making it faster then the old m5 comp and even audi rs6 modified to 800hp and the m3 cs.
Hi. For me what is amazing is that you are still fit enough to make these videos holding the steering wheel like this. Even driving one handed at over 200km/h!!!
I've heard "they hid the weight incredibly well" or things like that so many times, yet I've never felt that myself...heavy cars always felt heavy. It'd be great if this really is an exception, but until I drive one I'll remain unconvinced. One area it's impossible to hide weight: tyres. They'll heat and wear quicker, sure the new tyres might be great, but stick those same tyres on a car half the weight and they'll wear and heat half as quickly, obviously. However, I do find the styling somewhat OK in this colour - and the touring rear end looks pretty good. The interior & ergonomics...well they stuck dumbo ear buttons on the wheel yet couldn't put the seat controls on buttons. Those aren't deal-breakers, but they are a bit silly. The big question for me is: why wouldn't you just buy an M3?
Agreed, weight will always be weight. You cant hide or change that no matter what youre working with. Big cars like these will suffer massively on anything other than a dragstrip. Especially the wear on the tires.
@@Z4G. It might set good lap times, I'm sure they'll have benchmarked it against the previous gen since it can't be slower than a base F90 for marketing reasons, surely. Still, I drive a 308 GTi, it's slower (and worse in many ways). It's also less than half the weight of this and the handling balance is unbelievable when pushed. I test drove a 992 C4S last month and it felt a bit heavy compared to the Pug, so I can only imagine how this G90 feels. (I was really comparing the C4S to my 981CS rather than the Pug, I'm crazy but not *that* crazy 😄)
Just look at the awful lines he takes in the twisty section while saying he can’t feel the weight… Obviously when you are going straight in every turn… 😂
@@Porkycheun To be fair I think that's just lazy driving, you can't really judge a car based on where the driver puts it, without seeing how the tyres and suspension are responding to the inputs. I suspect you might be right, but I like to have a flawless factual basis for mocking things...that way they just have to sit there and take it 😁 Anyway, it's heavier than an Alfa Giulia QV...towing a Cessna. I feel like that's all I need to know.
To be fair Bentley made first the miracle of agile handling on a heavy car with the Continental GT. Regarding to the M5 (lack of?) sound, I do prefer this setup: loud exhaust is for the joy of those who are outside of the cabin, and this way you (driver) just hear the "real sound", the engine note, and it's indeed a nice V8 tone to enjoy.
@@PanPeklo Really? What a pity. Maybe it's just to enhance the engine noise because of the cabin sound isolation? Because I know the speakers faking it's a common thing on 4 cylinders or even some v6, but it's strange that any v8 needs any help to sound good.
It doesnt look bad, but being slower and like 500kg heavyer than the old M5 kind of makes it laughable Edit:Apparently they managed to make it not feel that heavy
That's only because there is no direct reference. If you would get out and directly drive a 700kg lighter car after it you would feel massive difference. You can't never mask weight... Never!
lack of shifter is quite a bummer. drifting will be painful now. glad to see it at least drives good despite it’s weight 👍 M2 taught us weight doesn’t always mean bad
All are complaining about the weight and stuff. Maybe 1% will take it on a ride at a Race Track. 99% will use it as daily at the Autobahn and stuff. And it`s performing well. The car has a 0,5% tax in the end and definitely hitting it`s target group. Take a economic view, BMW nailed it with the car.
@@The.Brave.Warrior mercedes is bringing the v8 back and theres also a v8 hybrid s class which is lighter and more powerful than bmw and especially better looking
As a old F90 M5 comp LCI owner, I do not think I will buy this one. I am driving AMG GTR now. But to be honest I miss F90 M5 comp. Wish It could be a little less sleeper.
That's what it sounds like. You get grumbles in the low end but the European models have dead sound due to particulate filter which makes it bland in the mid and higher range
Bro the E60 is soooo slow compared to everything that came after, both in straight line and cornering wise. Stop glorifying it just because it sounds amazing. It surely does, but even the engine is a ticking time bomb.
@@matteochiantore4769 if i wanna go fast around corners i can buy a porsche for 100k that does it better, your argument is absurd, you don't really buy a FAMILY SEDAN to go around the nordschleife? i am FROM MUNICH and a big bmw supporter, but that's just madness and i don't know many M5 owners that race them around the track. better cars exist for that purpose.
i tried to sugarcoat it to myself several times, but there is just no way to find anything positive about the concept of this car i saw it in real life and the looks really got me, but knowing you move around 3 tons if there is some luggage and a passenger in it is just too crazy. i bet the car drives good, but imagine how good it would drive with 2 tons
well the m5 was never about lightweight but yeah its heavy, it was never a track car, its a big body highway ass hauler built for speed and comfort, not sure I love this new car but its seductive in some ways
Because of EU regulations. Even the top speed of modern holy trinity(F80, W1 & the upcoming Porsche V8 supercar) have same top speed as the old ones(P1, 918 & LaFerrari).
@@aguyfromgermany5202 True. It should be more power efficient, which this car is. We have to evolve and car manufactures have to abide by the laws in order to keep producing performance cars. It's a very good compromise all things considered.
If the car actually drives that well, how much better would it drive if the car had at least 2.2 tons? I can't wait to see the new M5 without the battery and how much it will weigh
I don't understand how the top speed is 305 and that's only with the drivers package? I have an ls3 at about 650hp at the rear and it tops out between 310 and 320? Is the engine just severely limited or what?
This channel may have posted the best 2025 m5 video great work! ** also there will not be a m5 competition the m5 will just have an option you pay called M mode that will technically be the comp**
I just refuse to buy a car with no/few physical buttons- literally no one - NO ONE wants to adjust their seat or AC through a screen menu - why do they do this??
My Favorite M5 is the F10 and the E60 ,it is surprising for me that I actually somehow like this M5 too. Not as much as the older ones but it still has something and about the the weight we don’t even have to argue that this car is heavy.
The current 5-series HAS to be a Touring. The back looks too funky on the sedan, but the wagon really hits the spot. Just a shame the rear diffuser is so chunky, it ruins the look (not that it was a looker in the first place). Also sucks that the window on the trunk hatch no longer opens on the G61/G99, that was what made Tourings unique.
@@nikitamarynich1794 Definitely is, I still don't like the front too much but the rest does honestly look quite cool. I've been seeing G60 almost daily since the i5 came out so I've gotten quite used to seeing them around.
Since a discovered your Chanel, I watch at every video that you upload, doesn't matter the car type. The way that you present is like every car is your own car. We'll done and all the best.
@@Its_proofzy People love to hate just in general The new M5 looks like it goes like stink despite being 2.5 tons, boat or not I'm pretty sure it'll still outpace a lot of it's "lighter" competitors
This car doesn't have leather dash and door panels, has the full leather option been removed? Seems many other options are gone too compared to the F90, i.e., laser headlights, soft-close doors, seat massage, fewer front seat adjustment points, gone physical seat control buttons (which were great), even the hood sound deadening foam at 2:21 is gone :/
Rate the M5 G90 /10
1/10 incredible ugly
8/10. It’s amazing. I just like the F90 M5 better tho.
@@Hamza_AlMaliki06 agree
9/10
4/10
'Lets start in Hybrid mode'
Drives 50cm
'Okay thats enough for hybrid mode'
@@origaminefretami3480 that's how long all the ev test drives should be 🙃
@@filend_it haha big facts
Everyone is lying as usual. But BMW will always be faster.
it's way funnier that i had to read this then go back to it 😂
@@filend_ithybrid mode is not the same as ev mode.
The Hellcat drivers can finally catch a break from all the boat jokes.
but now they're going to receive toaster and boat jokes for the new charger
Challenger hellcats are 1000 pounds lighter than this car😂😂😂
@@Symmetricall this is a starship destroyer then
It’s still faster😂
They have worse jokes to worry about now
Next M5 gen will be 4 tons and 2,000 ps with unchanged performance and more disco-like ambient lighting, can’t wait
And 5 extra screens, don t forget.
Problem is it hasnt even 700hp, they just add electric motors and the battery doesnt last and you are left with 5xx hp
They won't be around in 40 years time like some original M5s are still around today. Everything will have died ...
@@zakelwe 40 ? They wont be around in 20 years. Nobody will repair the hybrid stuff except from some rich collectors
And 100% larger grille
AutoTopNL❌ BoatTopNL✅
You really want a boat SVR or Brabus g wagon but I like this one either way
9:38 wow another M5
I went on an m5 to Norway, it has buoyancy! So big and so light per sq metre, it floats! Has 400 rooms, 4 pools, a gym and allsorts
😂😂
idk what was bro lookin at, thats a MAN truck
@@donttouchthewatch645 exactly. He was ironic
This car is the single best advertisment for a used F90 M5 I've ever seen, bravo!
Lol im still wanting to get an F10 M5 or E60 M5
best comment here, still wondering who is buying that new crap. It is like a joke at all customers of BMW. now former customers
Why is there a boat on this car channel?
Cars gettin bored i guess 😂
Boats are the new go to 👍🏼
Why is there a cruise ship on this channel?
Damn bro. Didn't have to roast it like that...😅😅
Nothing new man, he has already reviewed several challengers
Why is there "funny" comments from people who will never buy this?
BMW went full Chinese market with the interior.
The 3 german brands are all doing a cheap interior contest at the moment
@@SudSale31who does better interiors tho?
@@origaminefretami3480 Of the three?
They are all became really bad in my opinion
@@origaminefretami3480 aston martin
@@matthewgwynne7874 hmmm
The tractor next to us was shown for a reason. Good sense of humor.
M5 F90 value 📈
After 9 long years, Hellcat owners can finally hand over the title of being boat owners and be in peace.
Nkw, you can take a new tittle on "Toaster Owners" because thenew ones look like toasters :(
And even those are a half thousand pounds less than this
What is up with these jokes? I'm not a car person.
@@camolambox2525 The people who will buy the new electric Chargers are NOT the same people who bought the real V8 muscle cars.
@@kaspervestergaard2383 that card these days are so heavy and that some of them drive like boats, like the charger/challenger platforms.
The ambient lighting looks like something off a massage chair you’d order on Wish
back in the days all those lights could be bought with 5$ on aliexpress
@@dimmacommunication Dropshippers sells those lights for $95 or more lol.
😂😂😂😂
Look at mercedes.. its 200% temu😂 i really like that the new light bar. Looks really solid! And quality and bmw is like🤝🏻. Audi, Merc and other quality is getting worse.. but bmws is still very nice. For eyes and fingers.
Honestly, the whole interior does. That bland styling with the tacked on screen looks cheap as hell. Personally, I prefer an RS6 interior over this 1000% of the time. Both have their climate controls in a screen which is total BS, but at least the screens on the RS6 look integrated into the interior design... not like this monstrosity.
Thanks for this CruiseShipTopNL POV review
“So that was it in hybrid mode” after then seconds of driving is crazy
Same hate happened with the G80/G82 yet it became one of the most popular cars ever produced
Facts. I don't think people should compare it to the F90. They're way different. Let's appreciate the previous gen for what it is ( Pure performance car ) while this is a modernized F60 with a hybrid motor to help make it more suitable as a daily while keeping the power of the M car.
G80 is a good car but the grill is a bit ugly, the new m5 is is just worse than the f90
~180kg (~10%) increase is justifible with AWD, extra power of S58 engine and torque converter to handle the extra torque, plus the comfort functions and wider front tire. Most importantly, G82 is faster. ~500kg (~25%) increase but slower is another story. 2.46t is the league of RR21. Keep in mind that G12 M760i weights 2.3t, with a massive V12, 2 alternators, 3 12V batteries and loads of default comfort and entertainment options.
damn, got a boat license?
Hahahahah lmaoo 🤣👍🏼
Sadly car companies nearly have no choice to have big engines without batteries(hybrid), but new m5 just looks like fat bmw that ate up whole pallet of marshmellow
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Very funny. Then the same AMG fans like you will whine in the comments to the video where BMW will be the winner.
what color is your m5
This design, both on the inside and the outside, has a very 'look what they’ve done to my boy!' vibes all over it. Dear lord, BMW, don't go down that road...
2.5ton😂
They already have
😂
Too late, they need to please their chinese overlords.
It is just very modern. It looks like E60 from Cyberpunk 2077.
I don’t see a single reason to get this m5 over an rs7 performance or even a used f90 m5. Somehow, somewhere along the way the m5 has lost its magic.
More practical as a daily with hybrid mode and way newer technology.
@@nikitamarynich1794 Being a hybrid means massive reliability issues in future. This thing is meant to last 5 years and be scrapped. The "way newer" technology makes it heavier and not any quicker or more efficient out of town or on the highway which is where it's always going to be. There isn't a single upside.
@@MyRealNameExactly. And if you want "practicality" buy a 550 or 540 not a freaking M5
@@MyRealNametbf full EVs are just as disposable. Thats just his how new cars are nowadays.
@@nikitamarynich1794looks worse
Most of the commenters calling G90 M5 a boat, heavy and slow are people who haven't even driven a 300HP car. These internet kids are insane
They just watch too much Carwow
They think they are funny though
@@SashaFujiwara Internet Keyboard Warriors they are 🏳️🌈
Have to test it myself. I rode passenger in an M8 Competition and you could absolutely tell it weighed 1900+ kg. Especially in the corner speeds and the amount of brake pedal force needed to slow it down. Difficulty believing it is not the same in the much heavier M5..... but who knows. Maybe BMW did find a magic wand to mask the weight.
Speed yellow... It's like yellow submarine, but not....but it is 😂
looks like signal yellow?
Tavarish flooded P1 is the yellow submarine
evros yellow is best yellow. arabic yellow
also lityellow and gold yellow.
School bus
God I love my E60 M5 even more now
😂
Until the rod bearings blow
@@benjamincaron46 did the ACL bearing change on jack stands in my garage last year, she runs like a dream now
@@solemate6839done any other reliability mods?
looks like a Korean car... weighs like an SUV... and is slower than an M5 E60
Bro is getting a Truck License for this one
😂😂
I got an opportunity to look at the new G90 in detail in the BMW showroom. The exterior looks like a generically designed sports car for the Chinese market. The practicality once F90 had is now lost because trunk space is reduced by 63 litres in order to accommodate the hybrid battery and the active suspension system.
The quality of the interior is lower than F90. Seats feel cheaper than the previous generation sports seats now having fewer adjustment points. At the bottom of the door is a hard-pack plastic with no felt padding, while F90 had a soft-touch plastic with the padding from the inside. Plastic on the console looks and feels as it is of lower quality than F90 generation.
As for the 2,5 ton weight, it may not be a problem as long as the wheels have traction because the active suspension system can compensate the roll and make the heavy car stable, but if the traction is lost eg. on a wet curvy B road, the innertion could make the situation uncontrollable and pose a large risk of crashing. I was already in such a situation with a couple of other heavy car models. The slide caught me by surprise, and I barely avoided a total crash.
@Autotopnl what you describe of the gearbox, is not directly because of the electric engine but the absence of torque converter replaced by some clutches which do not provide the same smooth transitions.
I don’t know BMW has M truck division, absolutely amazing.
🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍
M = Mother
truck division? Brotha🤣😉
last Gen had the look, the feel, the excitement for the M5. This year BMW really "Killed" it if you know what I mean
no i don’t what do you mean?
Agreed totally, but the most disgusting thing I've seen in ages are those new fully electrical BMWs with a cheap-looking low resolution grill-like "paintings", looks horrible
M8 GRAN COUPE is the one to have. Seen it and new m5 touring in person at Petit Lemans race recently. M8 GC looks great and has the right proportions.
M8 Gran Coupé is 350kg lighter than this M5, incidentally.
Sure. Unfortunately the 8 series is history soon. Bmw will very likely make a 6 series next with the same drivetrain as this.
@@questionyourself718 The next 8 Series will come in 07/26. Look it up on bimmerpost where all the future bmw models are listed.
@@ApothecaryTerryand around 100k more at least in Austria 😅😂
Yup! And it doesn't have the touchscreen only ipad IOS software. Plus it has a proper shifter. But it will be gone soon. Its a shame as its the only BMW on sell today with a classic BMW interior.
Since the launch of G90 M5
I loved it no matter what
And you just made me fall in love with this car again
Whats the app called from the gps tracker on your Phone?
"like the elephant in the room, it's sort of an elephant" is crazy😭😭
Driving 313kmh With a Cruise ship is Crazy☠️
old M5 E60 330+ LOL
yeah and with out the limiter it can probably go 320 or 225 bc of how quickly it went from 300 to 313 it looked so easy for the g90
I hope you know m5 e60 is 330 on dash but like 300 on gps @@igorsol9717
@@igorsol9717We are talking bout Cruise ship or tank not the top speed. We all know Old bmw's faster than this. Take his joke plz...
Nothing better than going almost as fast as 16 year old cars, while having less room in the back seats and your braking distance being questionable at such speeds
BMWs new designers; 14 year old boys who have watched too many Transformers episodes 😅
No, you guys are the 14 year olds complaining about the weight
In my opinion it looks nice
@@gewhdwgdiwgf2313 looks ugly too
@@gewhdwgdiwgf2313 Weight has zero benefits and affects all driving dynamics negatively.
Feel free to name any, or even just one benefit of weight in a car.
@@jackdoe3889The car will feel planted onto the ground due to the low centre of gravity, improved safety since their huge mass absorbs the impact of the crash. Comfortable ride for a performance car.
For the first time ever as a BMW lover of M5 series, I'm kinda left disappointed. F90 was the last of the beautiful body lines and heart throbbing performance! Great video overall👌🏾
This car is amazing, you guys do this a lot, hating on it first till you realize it is actually pretty cool🤣
Then realizing they can’t afford one anyway. 😂😂😂
@@MakeItMakeSense285 thats true ma boy🤣
I think the issue is the weight only honestly. Otherwise it's good.
@@tshepanglesufi9958That and the car just looks bloated. The rear looks very off and the headlights have such little presence because they went with cat eyes and were prioritising an LED grille...
2014: oh I miss the previous m5
2024: oh I miss the previous m5
2034: oh I miss the previous m5
😂😂😂
Best comment!!
No one misses M5 F10 bro
Only e39
bingo
F90 prices will skyrocket, that car was perfect.
I can't afford any but I'll have a look at what audi has to offer, hope they haven't hired chinese boat designers.
It’s a mass produced car it’s price will not sky rocket
Perhaps a slow in deprecation but I doubt it
@@mrbleach4609Correct.
Nice skoda review
You just insulted Skoda bruh Skoda on top
kia
@NyzedOfficial skoda is great but not bmw copying the design💀
Insulate to skoda
skodas are better than this.
Great touch with the carbon fiber interior trim-it really helps save weight!
Your reviews are flawless, you should not only do high speed runs.. detail review them you are so technically gifted.
3.5 secs 0-100? This car is a step backwards in every perspective.
It's BMW claimed, it's prob 3.3 in reality and with a stage 2, it will be sub 3 seconds car.
@@nikitamarynich1794Here is the thing though, the previous model M5 comp is a 3.0 or sub 3 second car without stage 2.
Dude are u guys slow? U still trust bmw on paper numbers jesus. Go check out Joe Achillies review he just uploaded he got 3.1 sec 0-60 and this guy got 7.13 60-130 making it faster then the old m5 comp and even audi rs6 modified to 800hp and the m3 cs.
@@nikitamarynich1794*M5 CS entered the chat*
@@LoboPoderosoSDL shouldnt be the base M5 compared to base M5 lmao ?
A car for the Chinese market.
exactly lol the interior is so ugly
Even Chinese not buying it
Inutile lamentarsi tanto solo loro possono permettersela
The poor and worsened ergonomics really destroy this and all other Beamers. What a shame considering how perfect it was only 4 years ago…
Hi. For me what is amazing is that you are still fit enough to make these videos holding the steering wheel like this. Even driving one handed at over 200km/h!!!
best reviews out there, thanks TopNL
8:33 okay that was insane
Agreed. The way it launches and pulls is amazing considering it's heavy💯🔥
What is going on in the interior?! Looks like a turkish interior design shop...
Ja wat een kermis van binnen , kleurtjes, kermis verlichting , glimmende meuk overal... 😮 de oudere bmw's zijn veel nicer van binnen.
I've heard "they hid the weight incredibly well" or things like that so many times, yet I've never felt that myself...heavy cars always felt heavy. It'd be great if this really is an exception, but until I drive one I'll remain unconvinced. One area it's impossible to hide weight: tyres. They'll heat and wear quicker, sure the new tyres might be great, but stick those same tyres on a car half the weight and they'll wear and heat half as quickly, obviously.
However, I do find the styling somewhat OK in this colour - and the touring rear end looks pretty good. The interior & ergonomics...well they stuck dumbo ear buttons on the wheel yet couldn't put the seat controls on buttons. Those aren't deal-breakers, but they are a bit silly.
The big question for me is: why wouldn't you just buy an M3?
Agreed, weight will always be weight. You cant hide or change that no matter what youre working with. Big cars like these will suffer massively on anything other than a dragstrip. Especially the wear on the tires.
@@Z4G. It might set good lap times, I'm sure they'll have benchmarked it against the previous gen since it can't be slower than a base F90 for marketing reasons, surely.
Still, I drive a 308 GTi, it's slower (and worse in many ways). It's also less than half the weight of this and the handling balance is unbelievable when pushed. I test drove a 992 C4S last month and it felt a bit heavy compared to the Pug, so I can only imagine how this G90 feels.
(I was really comparing the C4S to my 981CS rather than the Pug, I'm crazy but not *that* crazy 😄)
Just look at the awful lines he takes in the twisty section while saying he can’t feel the weight… Obviously when you are going straight in every turn… 😂
@@Porkycheun To be fair I think that's just lazy driving, you can't really judge a car based on where the driver puts it, without seeing how the tyres and suspension are responding to the inputs.
I suspect you might be right, but I like to have a flawless factual basis for mocking things...that way they just have to sit there and take it 😁
Anyway, it's heavier than an Alfa Giulia QV...towing a Cessna. I feel like that's all I need to know.
To be fair Bentley made first the miracle of agile handling on a heavy car with the Continental GT.
Regarding to the M5 (lack of?) sound, I do prefer this setup: loud exhaust is for the joy of those who are outside of the cabin, and this way you (driver) just hear the "real sound", the engine note, and it's indeed a nice V8 tone to enjoy.
sadly its altered by the fake sound coming from the speakers 🥲
@@PanPeklo Really? What a pity. Maybe it's just to enhance the engine noise because of the cabin sound isolation? Because I know the speakers faking it's a common thing on 4 cylinders or even some v6, but it's strange that any v8 needs any help to sound good.
I think weight is not that big problem. As we can see it is still insanely fast. However sound is not as it was
It doesnt look bad, but being slower and like 500kg heavyer than the old M5 kind of makes it laughable
Edit:Apparently they managed to make it not feel that heavy
That's only because there is no direct reference. If you would get out and directly drive a 700kg lighter car after it you would feel massive difference.
You can't never mask weight... Never!
@@CAR_NL Until you drive it, you can't make such assumptions. It has an electric motor still that 4.4 V8. It's still a beast.
for now i believe the media but i will go for a test drive as soon as possible to get my own opinion
Frontlights are such a downgrade imo
But I still prefer the old one
lack of shifter is quite a bummer. drifting will be painful now. glad to see it at least drives good despite it’s weight 👍 M2 taught us weight doesn’t always mean bad
All are complaining about the weight and stuff. Maybe 1% will take it on a ride at a Race Track. 99% will use it as daily at the Autobahn and stuff. And it`s performing well. The car has a 0,5% tax in the end and definitely hitting it`s target group. Take a economic view, BMW nailed it with the car.
The only adult in this comment section
Who buys an M5 to use as a grocerie getter? 😂
@@raksanrambo1230 You'd be surprised
@@raksanrambo1230a lot lol it’s a family sedan
Ah finally someone sensible. The target audience for this car will love it
Best test and thoughts on this car by far. Super practical and focused. Can’t wait for mine’s to arrive in Jan ‘25.
BMW M5 F90 OR BMW G90
G90
The car just looks so planted and powerful and driving so effortlessly.
Seems like quite the driving experience
The back end looking like a camry 😂😂😂
didn’t know you guys reviewed boats
BMW M has lost it soul...
It’s still a V8💪🏻 Look at Mercedes C63 with 2.0 4 cylinder engine…. BMW is still in the game 👍🏻
@@The.Brave.Warrior mercedes is bringing the v8 back and theres also a v8 hybrid s class which is lighter and more powerful than bmw and especially better looking
Doesn't seem like it from what he says about it.
@@aaronjantti9176 still slower tho
@@aaronjantti9176it’s also a lot worse of a track car and slower, BMW always owned the game
Donde se ajusta la densidad de transito? Y desde cuando deja ponerla en minimo?
What if the battery is empty? What are the times then?
You review semi trucks now?
As a old F90 M5 comp LCI owner, I do not think I will buy this one. I am driving AMG GTR now. But to be honest I miss F90 M5 comp. Wish It could be a little less sleeper.
BIG big autotop! I’m an old school bmw guy and I’m not mad at this. I actually like it
Ive been waiting for this upload since I saw the release. As a previous F90 M5C owner I thank you
Does this also have engine sounds coming from the speakers?
4:44 That fake engine sound 😱
That's what it sounds like. You get grumbles in the low end but the European models have dead sound due to particulate filter which makes it bland in the mid and higher range
E60 still king, aftermarket exhaust and you have a sound reminiscent of old F1 days. V10 beats hybrid all day, every day
Bro the E60 is soooo slow compared to everything that came after, both in straight line and cornering wise. Stop glorifying it just because it sounds amazing. It surely does, but even the engine is a ticking time bomb.
Not to mention you need a equity loan just to keep the thing running.
@@matteochiantore4769 e60 might be less quicker but it beats the g60 in top speed after what 15 years?
@@matteochiantore4769and that gearbox is really realllllyy bad
@@matteochiantore4769 if i wanna go fast around corners i can buy a porsche for 100k that does it better, your argument is absurd, you don't really buy a FAMILY SEDAN to go around the nordschleife? i am FROM MUNICH and a big bmw supporter, but that's just madness and i don't know many M5 owners that race them around the track. better cars exist for that purpose.
the tail light looks like camry haha
Vista v50
Does it also break on the electric motor when in most sporty mode?
Thank you, confirmed my order yesterday 😁
i tried to sugarcoat it to myself several times, but there is just no way to find anything positive about the concept of this car
i saw it in real life and the looks really got me, but knowing you move around 3 tons if there is some luggage and a passenger in it is just too crazy. i bet the car drives good, but imagine how good it would drive with 2 tons
imagine being stuck on internet benchmark racing theories than not trusting the M division at BMW 😂
@@Johnnygga they can deactivate physics? Nice
well the m5 was never about lightweight but yeah its heavy, it was never a track car, its a big body highway ass hauler built for speed and comfort, not sure I love this new car but its seductive in some ways
so its the same speed as the f90 and you're ok with that but the f90 only needs the engine? the new car should be a lot faster with this equipment
Because of EU regulations. Even the top speed of modern holy trinity(F80, W1 & the upcoming Porsche V8 supercar) have same top speed as the old ones(P1, 918 & LaFerrari).
A newer car shouldn't always be faster than the latest generation.
@@aguyfromgermany5202 True. It should be more power efficient, which this car is. We have to evolve and car manufactures have to abide by the laws in order to keep producing performance cars. It's a very good compromise all things considered.
Oh my he got it 1st. This man got some Power
15:22 did he say “brick”? That would be the first time an M5 is called a brick! XD
The sound is cut off in the section that says Sound. Is the video corrupt?
Why is there a bruised banana on a car channel?
If the car actually drives that well, how much better would it drive if the car had at least 2.2 tons? I can't wait to see the new M5 without the battery and how much it will weigh
I'm really sad for the future of cars enthusiasts
Sad times man.
Tesla will eliminate car enthusiasm on its own anyway. There wont be car enthusiasts in the future.
Bro this M5 looks and looks like it drives like a car for proper enthusiasts
Nothing to be sad about. C63 destroyed their AMG series, this is still a proper M car.
@@nikitamarynich1794thus M5 wanna be is a vacuum cleaner 8 cylinder car
I don't understand how the top speed is 305 and that's only with the drivers package? I have an ls3 at about 650hp at the rear and it tops out between 310 and 320? Is the engine just severely limited or what?
This channel may have posted the best 2025 m5 video great work! ** also there will not be a m5 competition the m5 will just have an option you pay called M mode that will technically be the comp**
I felt the its weight even though watching on my phone.
I just refuse to buy a car with no/few physical buttons- literally no one - NO ONE wants to adjust their seat or AC through a screen menu - why do they do this??
My Favorite M5 is the F10 and the E60 ,it is surprising for me that I actually somehow like this M5 too. Not as much as the older ones but it still has something and about the the weight we don’t even have to argue that this car is heavy.
Totally agree with you Max on the gear shift! Love the channel!
The current 5-series HAS to be a Touring. The back looks too funky on the sedan, but the wagon really hits the spot. Just a shame the rear diffuser is so chunky, it ruins the look (not that it was a looker in the first place). Also sucks that the window on the trunk hatch no longer opens on the G61/G99, that was what made Tourings unique.
Touring looks better but it's still a pretty slick car. Since it's already quite bulky, there is no need for a wide bodykit.
@@nikitamarynich1794 Definitely is, I still don't like the front too much but the rest does honestly look quite cool. I've been seeing G60 almost daily since the i5 came out so I've gotten quite used to seeing them around.
0:30 you got me god damnit😭🤣
Driving the new M5 in the Netherlands should be forbidden as it increases flood risks.......
Since a discovered your Chanel, I watch at every video that you upload, doesn't matter the car type. The way that you present is like every car is your own car. We'll done and all the best.
Wich one is better amg gt 63 se or the new m5
2.5 тонны веса это дохрена, газель легче
Потом выпустят M5 CS, в которой выкинут гибридную установку и шумку, и будут продавать в 1,5 раза дороже...
Но газель не едет 7 секунд 100-200)
@@filend_itне выкинут сто процентов, просто машина будет нереально жёсткой
Дак мало того, что у неё масса, как у чугунного моста, она ещё и выглядит отвратительно...
выглядит как корейская машина... весит как внедорожник...и медленнее чем M5 E60
2:37 those unsymmetric intake pipes are bothering me so much 😅
Nice boat
Officer : Sir Cruise ships are not allowed on autobahn
Him : WAIT WHAT!
Is it released in the Netherlands already Max
3:29 what kind of phones are elderly people using these days😂
He probably mean some eldery people phone have big red sos button
7,16 100-200
Feels good for the weight
Once all the performance tuning companies start working on it, it will be a 5 sec 100-200 car.
@@nikitamarynich1794 Maybe
It won't be that easy tho
Guys, it’s a car channel, not a boat channel. Please remember it
I really love the new m5 but people love to hate because it is really heavy
@@Its_proofzy People love to hate just in general
The new M5 looks like it goes like stink despite being 2.5 tons, boat or not I'm pretty sure it'll still outpace a lot of it's "lighter" competitors
@@stefakyou6103 yeah but I get why people hate because the same people that hate glaze the f90
@@Its_proofzy It's just children, the same ones that hate on the MK5 Supra
@@Its_proofzyI don’t glaze the F90. I simply like it more
I love that autotopnl does actually high speeds for cornering and actually tests it (even though some parts were a bit illegal😂)
This car doesn't have leather dash and door panels, has the full leather option been removed? Seems many other options are gone too compared to the F90, i.e., laser headlights, soft-close doors, seat massage, fewer front seat adjustment points, gone physical seat control buttons (which were great), even the hood sound deadening foam at 2:21 is gone :/