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The Tragic Death of the ITC in 1996

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2024
  • Welcome to another new video on this video!
    When the DTM (= Deutsche Tourenwagen Meisterschaft) was founded in 1984, no one had an idea that it would become one of the most popular series throughout Europe. Sadly, their attempt to transform this series into a World Championship failed due to several reasons. In this video, I will go over it's history, it's one and only full season and it's demise. Enjoy!
    DISCLAIMER: This video is not intended for persons 13 years or under. Special mention to all the original sources of certain clips used in my videos. Please do check out their content for the full videos.
    Copyright Disclaimer: Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. There are certain scenes from the ITC rounds and from the DTM where footage is used. All those rights are property of the ITR and the ADAC. Other photos and news elements are used solely for the purpose of assisting the original content illuminate a more in depth story.
    #dtm #itc #itc1996 #mercedes #opel #alfaromeo

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  • @Matnrach2-mf9qr
    @Matnrach2-mf9qr หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I was responsible for the development of the Opel engine and I have to say it was the best time. Money no object and consequently the rate of development was very rapid . The learning from this project later fed directly into F1, as this was effectively a 2.5l V6 rev restricted F1 engine so efficiency was paramount. We will never see the likes of this again.

    • @Reggo
      @Reggo หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Ich hatte letzten Sommer das Glück, am originalen Opel Calibra Sieger Auto von Team Joest helfen zu können. Ich hab ein Praktikum bei einem Mittelständischen Unternehmen gemacht und da stand er in der Werkstatt mit einem Stück der Frontlippe abgebrochen. Ich habe mir ewig den Motor Raum und die Aufhängung angeguckt.

    • @Matnrach2-mf9qr
      @Matnrach2-mf9qr หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Reggo All the engines were returned to Cosworth to change the air springs over to wire springs as they did not want the technology to leave the company as Opel only licenced it.

    • @MyILoveMinecraft
      @MyILoveMinecraft หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Matnrach2-mf9qr Glückwunsch für die Chance.
      Der ITC Calibra war meiner Meinung nach einer der schönsten Rennwagen aller Zeiten und funktiona war er auch, ihr habt Klasse Arbeit geleistet

    • @Matnrach2-mf9qr
      @Matnrach2-mf9qr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MyILoveMinecraft Thank you. I learned a lot from that project. Clean sheet of paper design. First run in February and 8 cars racing by April. If anything went drastically wrong it would have been a disaster! Thankfully it went well!

    • @rolux4853
      @rolux4853 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Matnrach2-mf9qrthat is really interesting!
      Where did the blocks come from?
      Did Opel cast them in their production facilities or were they cast by Cosworth?
      Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I remember the rules something like this:
      The engine rule for the ITC was that the car must have a displacement from any production engine that Opel sold, but it doesn’t have to use any stock parts of that production engine.
      Is that true or am I mixing this up with a different series?
      I’d love to have a chat with you, I’m an automotive engineer working for a German manufacturer.

  • @MrDavidfball
    @MrDavidfball หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    the ITC was designer by Ecclestone to destroy the DTM that was taking eyes off F1 same with the Group c sportscars going to 3.5-litre engines.
    the idea push costs so far north that teams would either give up, go bankrupt or join F1 for racing around the world

    • @sabataskull9661
      @sabataskull9661 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Typical of Ecclestone...

    • @MrDavidfball
      @MrDavidfball หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@sabataskull9661 F1 was his baby and he would do anything to protect his income stream.
      if that means killing rival championships by taking over the promotion he did it

  • @thomasoviatt
    @thomasoviatt หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    great video wasent paying attention when i clicked it and looked halfway through the vid to see how many millions of views this had and saw only 300. stick with it man you have tallent give it a while and you will be one of the biggest youtubers

  • @CahasRetroChannel90sRevivalVHS
    @CahasRetroChannel90sRevivalVHS หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The ITC was too expensive. But the races were great. :)

    • @jm69eng35
      @jm69eng35  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      100% agree.

    • @godwindracing6056
      @godwindracing6056 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is what ‘race fans’ think - ‘who cares the series is killing itself with high cost, the racing is great.’
      It’s all about what benefits themselves, not the series the long term

  • @emenesu
    @emenesu หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    DTM and similar categories were the best. Normal cars with beefed up bodykits, not supercars everywhere.

    • @hybridShinx
      @hybridShinx หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      True, when I saw DTM series with just GT cars on the grid in 2018, I knew something was wrong
      The super saloons are replaced 🙄

    • @marfrandema1884
      @marfrandema1884 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ITC were very far away from "NORMAL CARS"

    • @hybridShinx
      @hybridShinx หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marfrandema1884 least they weren't supercar to begin with

    • @DeathHammer1994
      @DeathHammer1994 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@hybridShinxThey were more expensive lol
      GT3 is where it's at

    • @godwindracing6056
      @godwindracing6056 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DeathHammer1994GT3 was what killed DTM, 2G Class 1 was no better too

  • @MaunoKoivistoOfficial
    @MaunoKoivistoOfficial หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hadn't seen a picture of young Dario before! You have some really great sources here. Top notch production

  • @mladenpavlenic1273
    @mladenpavlenic1273 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for this great review of last season of DTM/ITC 😢. In my opinion, this racing series have been great from 1989-1996 and then again from 2000-2018. I can't understand that German car manufacturers can't fix this series and make it great again, something like Nascar, "constitutional" commitment in motorsport, use it as showroom for German heritage in motorsport and show all know-how muscles. Three brands, iconic german tracks, prescription for success 🙌

  • @CJ-gh4eh
    @CJ-gh4eh หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Keep it up I really loved the format! I was just in Turin and got to see one of the Martini Alfas. I was completely in awe in how it truly was a prototype with a roadcar body! I can't wait to see what other video's you end up producing! Subbed!

    • @tacticalnuclearpingutv290
      @tacticalnuclearpingutv290 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I believe they also took the original chassis and heavily modified them. This is different to say IMSA GTO and Trans Am which features bespoke chassis in a true silhouette series (like 2000 DTM revival). If you look at the development of the Mercedes, you see how the floor pan and chassis is mainly intact for the 1994 versions, but. By 1995 the whole of the front is replaced by space frame. Not sure if they replaced the roofs with carbon composite but it wouldn’t surprise me. Awesome cars, absolutely the maximum we’ll ever see extracted from a road going machine

  • @noobiplays5364
    @noobiplays5364 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Absolutely thrilling! This video perfectly captures the excitement and intensity of the ITC racing series. The footage is top-notch, with stunning camera angles and impeccable editing. The commentary adds so much depth and insight into the race. Kudos to the team for putting together such an engaging and high-quality video. Can’t wait to see more! 🚗💨 #ITCRacing #AdrenalineRush

  • @brdllc
    @brdllc หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video. Subscribed. I can’t get enough of dtm/itc and sadly there’s not much out there in English. Absolutely insane amounts of development and tech in these gorgeous race cars.

  • @stenovitz
    @stenovitz 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where have all the flowers gone? I didn't even realise ITC was decased. Whatched it maybe the last season, got busy in life...and *boom* 28 years have passed in a finger snap. Your kids grew up and left home, and the MC was not sold yesterday but before the new Millenium, suddenly you realized that mid life crizis was 20 years ago.
    OK I'll just pretend it's still 1996. It worked just fine for me so far. Greets from Denmark

  • @novaldigunturputra495
    @novaldigunturputra495 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great video man, hopefully this video blows up

  • @rockinrolla102
    @rockinrolla102 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a great video! Top notch work!

  • @AngelecciYT
    @AngelecciYT 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Deutsche Rennsport Meisterschaft:
    Lack of budget
    Group A:
    Lack of Restrictions
    Deutsche Tourenwagen Meisterschaft:
    Lack of Manufacturers
    R.I.P

  • @latotf2
    @latotf2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    reminds me very heavily of peter brook's content (which i love!), especially using the same music he uses in a lot of his videos

    • @jm69eng35
      @jm69eng35  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you like it :)

  • @rsb363
    @rsb363 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This GT1, Super touring, start of NASCAR boom. The mid 90s was a special time

  • @Thomas-yz7lv
    @Thomas-yz7lv หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Peak of Touringcar Racing was either Group A or Super Touring, even during ITC Super Touringcars was present around the World, way more international than a overbudget German prototype series with 3 Manufacturers.
    I'm 10 seconds into the video and already disagree

    • @godwindracing6056
      @godwindracing6056 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wonder how old this YTer and many of those who muse about the series are when that season was around. I had started to watch DTM from the 1994 season on Eurosport (my family did not have cable until them), I had thought it was quite odd to see no DTM from them that year then it had mysteriously disappeared from sight. When I read about that season in Wikipedia, it was completely unsurprising how the series killed itself.

    • @jm69eng35
      @jm69eng35  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      As great as Super Tourers were (I do like them aswell), they were simply too boring in comparison to Class 1. No wonder that the STW (= Supertourenwagen Cup) never worked in Germany after the DTM/ITC died. Also, whilst these regs were used all around the world, these rules still had many flaws with homologation and rising costs. There is a reason why the BTCC were suffering from poor grids for a few years from 2000 onwards.

    • @godwindracing6056
      @godwindracing6056 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jm69eng35 in honesty, I felt the rot began with the 1994 BTCC season (peak year IMO was then till 1998) with Alfa Romeo and their controversial spoilers. Allowing extravagant underbody aero devices later in the seasons was simply a spade dug into the grave that eventually killed the class. I can figure why it never caught on in Germany then and somebody should’ve pointed this out when the new Class 1 regulation came in because whatever worked in Japan will never work in Germany (I take Germans like their executive 4 litre V8s, right?). I felt the Superstar series was what DTM should’ve been
      BTW, are you a German? In the UK, BTCC was a big thing then and a lot of enthusiasts supported the ‘2 litre rule’ (a merger of the bottom 3 Gr. A classes) as it was called then than they would to keep the old rules, which was nothing but a spec series for RS500s. In Japan, it had became a spec series for Skyline GT-Rs that eventually became the supertouring class. Also in the UK, DTM was mainly restricted to cable TV (mainly Eurosport) and some 8 minute highlights of some late night sport programmes. BTCC was restricted to some 30 minute highlights on Saturday until 1997 when they lost the rights to F1.
      There was no supertouring in BTCC from 2001 IIRC (supertouring only permitted family 4 doors, no coupes)

    • @jm69eng35
      @jm69eng35  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@godwindracing6056 Yes I am from Germany :D
      I also think that the Supertouring rules were fantastic but inevitably, the big manufacturers were beginning to invest too much money into development (these Supertourers were quicker than the Class 1 cars by 1999).
      Sadly, the new DTM hasn't learned it's lessons from the death of the ITC when the new DTM was on the verge of collapsing after 2020, where they had no choice but to move to GT3 cars.

  • @scottl.1568
    @scottl.1568 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mannesmann? 😮

  • @swordfish189
    @swordfish189 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ich war 96 am norisring

  • @CDeuce152
    @CDeuce152 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The successor series to a certain extent has similarities to the current spec NASCAR Cup Series machinery. I would rather see that chassis be used as opposed to the current era GT3 spec, because GT3 (through my eyes) is almost exclusively for endurance racing not split sprint races.

  • @user-xw6kw2ik3s
    @user-xw6kw2ik3s หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I do like these videos but sometimes wonder if people in Europe ever consider the ATCC/Supercars championship has run continuously since the 70's as a multi race championship?

    • @MrBlazemaster525
      @MrBlazemaster525 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Supercrap sucks

    • @user-xw6kw2ik3s
      @user-xw6kw2ik3s หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MrBlazemaster525 and yet it managed to outlast DTM, ITC, DTM version 2...........

    • @qizza7142
      @qizza7142 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrBlazemaster525definitely now but not back then 😂

    • @MrBlazemaster525
      @MrBlazemaster525 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-xw6kw2ik3s err DTM is still around bozo 🤡🤡🤡🤡

    • @MrBlazemaster525
      @MrBlazemaster525 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@qizza7142 nah, even back then supercrap sucks
      So scared of competition they changed the rules to shoo away the Skylines and Sierras that owned the crappy Commoders and Failcons 😄😄😄😄😄

  • @SprowstonRipper
    @SprowstonRipper หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shame most of this video is just a quick run through of each season and only 3 mins spent on why the series died.
    It can’t be underestimated how much of a role Bernie and Max played in its demise, they insisted on an international series which took it away from its core fanbase.
    The costs did just get too much and not enough was done to contain this, Alfa was a victim of fiat politics who redirected their budget towards the f1 team and Opel couldn’t justify running a class 1 and super touring program in parallel.
    It was probably always going to be doomed but it was glorious whilst it lasted.

    • @jm69eng35
      @jm69eng35  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      To be honest even the manufacturers and the organizers of the DTM were ready to make it an international series by 1995 seeing as the costs were rising so much that it wouldn't make sense to spend that much for a national series. Bernie meanwhile... well he surely is someone to blame aswell but I feel like he isn't the biggest factor in the internationalization of the series, thus I haven't included him in this video. Unfortunately, the big manufacturers just realized too late that the costs went out of control and plans to freeze development for 1997 and to bring in newer, cheaper cars for 1998 were coming way too late. This is why the series ultimately died :(

    • @tacticalnuclearpingutv290
      @tacticalnuclearpingutv290 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed re Ecclestone but Mercedes, who dominated the ITR until their folding of their DTM programme in 2018 bear a lot of responsibility. They pushed for open ended development which resulted in this massive arms race. I always wonder if there could have been a development freeze enacted either before or after 1996 which could have stabilized the spending. It’s always ROI contingent for OEMs, and with Ecclestone’s moves the ROI tanked and sealed the deal.

  • @florianlassnig9769
    @florianlassnig9769 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LE KLINGELTON