Doesn’t work in the game. Everything that was on the test track that made you want this vehicle is absolutely the opposite when you get it into real battle. It doesn’t penetrate armor anything like it does on the test track another trick by gaijin.
@@pikantoz7146 well, you would know that if you would’ve tested it before you unlocked it, the missiles flew completely straight. They had no curvature in the vehicle fired on the move and it also didn’t roll back-and-forth like a boat.
shhhh, let them act like they know anything about document release orders and export projects/blueprints being open to the public.@@komisiantikorupsikoruptord6257
Well the missiles should actually be more accurate since the targeting system in real life could fire at two tanks simultaneously and the missiles should fly a bit straighter off launch
This missile really shows how much the netcode bugs up all the missiles. The nerf to missiles from a few months ago wasn't supposed to make them as bad as they are in a live match. The predictive guidance needs to be dampened a lot. Might make it slightly harder to hit evasive targets, but a lot easier to hit nonmoving targets.
Damped is exactly right. It should actually make it much easier to hit moving targets, since even a basic PID controller is going to critically damp the oscillation very effectively.
They actually seem to have updated the launch trajectory today where it pops up a little first. Yesterday it did not do that for me and its made it more reliable at range and even stranger at close range.
Yeah the missile comes out the tube going basically Mach one but gaijin is braindead so the missile acceleration and burn time is completely scuffed alongside the tracking
So we get F-100 with less gun, the missile that doesn't know where it is, low tier AGM, and a ship I'm certain the 3 people that get it will certainly do something with. Can't say I'm all that upset about missing this event.
@@multimemer5317that's even worse, as it's an artificial dam to prevent you from reaching the goal. Not RNG "crafting chance", but rather just something purely to frustrate you and your efforts even more so than the soul crushing grind this game demands.
@@stillcantbesilencedevennowthat's not worse LOL. It is no different from other events. Sure, in other events you had to craft 1 thing and here 3, but it is multiple times easier to craft, so it is kinda even in the end
I like how it had the problem of the missile dipping when it fires which in reality, it didn't do, the round flew straight as an arrow after launch and they fixed it by instead making the arrow arch UP when it fires lmao
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Yeah Odd I cannot imagine how bad this missile is with high ping (F for Australian players,) I'm getting an average of 25-65 ping depending on the server cluster it puts me in and the missile rarely ever hits where I'm aiming past ~1.2km. Hopefully they fix this, but I doubt it, since it's the same bug that plagues the ADATS missile for many months now.
Funny how the krizantema has no struggle with missile dip, wobble, or guidance. Almost like gaijin doesn't want the LOSAT to be good and only want players to pay for it
Man gaijin just made this tank absolutely shit with how the missiles for some bizzare reason can't fly straight and level, instead corkscrews everywhere, inexplicably lofts up, or dumps into the ground. And the fact that a hypersonic kinetic energy missile gets stopped by cover is stupid, when in reality it had so much kinetic energy (80kg kinetic energy missile going at ~1500m/s is a shit ton of energy) that it obliterated its test targets into confetti. Like why? Why can't you make sense Gaijin? Why can't you make good, reliable event vehicles?
Another vehicle that was featured in a IRL vehicle requests video made by Spookston. Now we wait to see if any other vehicles from those videos gets added a some point in the future.
I don’t know if anyone has noticed but the ground RP gains seems to be lessened. I got 11 kills 2 assists and only got about 5k rp. This was with the turm lll and it seems different.
Ssdd. The snail waited until folks stopped watching and reinstated their "economy improvements" I'd wager. That or just across the board nerfed things and smirked about the lazy, pointless "boycott" people did that they've since gone back on. Pay pigs are ALL gaijoob cares about. Dunno why folks keep taking it on the chin then acting surprised. My brother in Christ, eschew the snail.
It's been a few months now and gaijin still refuses to fix the ATGM problems. I don't think they have even acknowledges their existence despite being so incredibly obvious
Yea, but the missile flew straight from the go, without guidance it would fly at a constant alight upward angle identical to the tube angle. In game it falls down if you are on a back slope and up when on an incline... so 100% a bug... and they "fixed" it by making the missile go up even more... so on an incline you are launching a rocket to the moon.
They need to reintroduce the old atgm system back for this vehicle to work properly, firing on the move and atgm indicator so u dont waste 1 missile to test if u are elevate enough, also 1 extra 12 shots reload because i aint going to cap zone to reload for 2 minutes when there are no friendly to protect me.
@@ZzVinniezZ I agree wiith everything except the extra ammo. They should just make the restock time much faster and remove the reloading time after you restock.
Gaijin netcode at it again. Only been bitching about the servers being trash for 5 years but hey. "skill issue". ATGM's never behave like they do in the test drive.
The game implementation is utter nonsense. I worked on this system. First it’s not a beam rider. Second the fire control automatically tracks and locks the first three targets it sees. There is no need to ‘sight’ or move the turret or aim anything. If it’s in the FLIR wide field of view the system does everything. All the gunner had to do was consent to fire at any or all of the locked targets. Less than a second between missile launches. The lethality is nonsense. The system will one shot any vehicle. If it’s a turret hit the turret is gone. If it’s a hull hit the entire frontal armor plate fails and is injected into the rest of the fighting compartment. No vehicle could survive a KEM hit. None. The missile trajectory is offset from the line of sight…and the laser is only used to remove initial launch errors. It pointed at the missile aft end so the target was never illuminated…a laser warning receiver does it no good. If the motor burn out has not occurred the propellant going high order is equivalent to 100lb GP bomb…in addition to the penetrator. I could go on but the game dev obviously doesn’t know or understand how the system worked. In its final iteration the vehicle could be parked and left unmanned - killing anything it saw. A data link between fire units insured that no two systems fired at the same targets. A platoon of LOSAT could kill an entire tank battalion in less than 60 seconds if the targets were either exposed or popping in and out view. It could engage helicopters and aircraft - as long as it’s in the FLIR field of view. The missile had plenty of maneuverability for such targets. If a jet was ‘incoming’ and not crossing laterally it would be a dead jet. I could go on but watching this video was painful as it’s obviously a case of gimped modeling.
One thing worth mentioning a major mount for these things was supposed to be the roofs of regular utility vehicles, not the armored vehicle setup in game. Random Humvees being able peek you and make you disappear four times in 3 seconds is a scary thought.
Looks like the missile is so god damn fast that it doesn't know what to do with prediction on the server side when it's being moved remotely by the user, making it spazz out. Your analysis looks bang on, this seems to be a networking issue.
no the premium is gonna be a fun low tier troll machine im gonna enjoy using that agm as an aam to shoot down big ass bombers its slow enough it should be easy to guide but fast enough that no bomber can get away from it
Something definitely affects the missile on live servers and it causes the missiles to make large, abrupt, changes, instead of small, gentle ones when aiming. Here is a demonstration of the issue: th-cam.com/video/KIZB5sQeKws/w-d-xo.htmlsi=7P0gmOvHU3g4ZX5E
The LOSAT system "was designed to be mounted onto a Humvee light military vehicle while allowing the vehicle to remain air-portable. LOSAT eventually emerged on an extended-length heavy-duty Humvee with a hard-top containing four KEMs used by special operations." But yeah we need more shitty technicals. pickup trucks with t-34 turrets, scooters with recoilless rifles, motorcycles with machine guns.
Hey Odd, love your vids and learned quite a bit from them. Today i was able to launch my first nuke and while its not much in the grand scheme it felt like a small accomplishment. Anyway keep up the nice vids and have a good one.
Yo Odd I think the issue with the missile comes from the game itself. If you look at some of those modded planes with 10x engine power etc. After they go a certain speed the plane just starts jittering. Same thing that is happening to this missile by the looks of it. Might be whats going on but idk
I love these vids but I can't help but think of how many people play in a prem and leave after one death trying to be like the content creators. I wish you'd play some lineup videos.
Now when it hits its just normal size apfsds round like a tank round and detonates if u try to hit a plane or heli. Game is just russian win simulator to its core.
Welp, time to make a new video on the losat odd. been a literal day since ur first one and its basically a completely different tank now cause they nerfed it to hell.
That killcam at 15:32 where the whole missile just ricochets off of the ammo storage is just Gaijin's recent masterwork in how not to make a viable and functional game.
As goofy as this thing is, it's a real shame I won't be able to grind for it since I'm currently deployed. The LOSAT is and always has been one of my favorite pieces of tech, so it's no wonder Gaijin would do an event like this when I'm not able to play the game.
Me too, im deployed as well, and couldn't grind for it. low key annoying. They should just make it to where you can buy it if you couldnt grind for it.
Partly due to him sitting on downslopes and partly from the missile dropping before it gets up to speed. The second part has been hotfixed and they get a bit of lift right after launching. But you still don't want to fire while your launcher is pointing at the ground.
As someone who has the losat it's very limited on what it can do. Ot doesn't go up or down and can't shoot on the go. But if you manage to connect it'd very deadly
Currently it has the same problem as the ADATS. The american beam riding missiles seem to wiggle and make easy shots miss. This doesnt happen in test drive but does happen in live matches. Weirdly enough this desnt happen to russian beam riding missiles. Hmmmm...
That was mostly from Phly not watching where the vehicle was parked. It takes a while to get used to the fact that you can't elevate the turret while sitting on the downslope of a hill. If your hull is angled down your turret is also angled down.
There's is blueprints of the Obj. 279 armed with a 240mm Rocket launcher and one armed with a missile launcher which fires the same missile as the IT-1. The obj. 279 had tons of different variants planned, and one of them had composite armor for the hull front and sides.
Missiles of all sorts are effected by ping. With my Aussie ping of 170 - 400+ ping this is easily seen. Atgm were impossible to use for over a year if you were Australian.
Ok...looked forward in watching an objective vid from you....and ofc, your absolutely bs bias @ 3:00........yeah, keep it going... another viewer gone 👌...maybe go back playing normal tech tree stuff.
From what I can tell the guidance system should have some elevation especially since it is meant to kill things at a long distance. It is just inaccurately modelled. For the record the turret does not elevate but the tracking system's camera (for lack of a better word) should have considerably better elevation.
My favorite war thunder content creator (Bo Time Gaming) did a video right before Gaijin "patched" the missile behavior. It was on the IT-1. Gaijin said they're adjusting the ATGMs, and their flight after launch, and its definitely broken compared to how it was before 3 months ago. Maybe gaijin watched a bunch of kids cartoons and figured that's how missiles are supposed to work? or a lot of low-budget action movies where the "missiles" are actually firecrackers, and their flight path is "let's veer off comically to the right or left just after launch.."
They'll put this in the game and the Chaparral, but not the MLRS. The same tube launched missiles as the LOSAT and the base vehicle as the Chaparral. I'd even settle for a TOW on a HWMMV but they won't give the American Tech Tree anything but something for Russian Tanks to shoot at. Also a big lack of ARM for USA.
This tank proves once again that gaijin does not test new stuff at all. Like 0 on hoise testing and 0 external testing happens before a release to the players. Without the PVE we would be unable to play the game for a month after each patch. This is also why we need patchnotes telling us of every single change happening, even if it is just sth like "removed line ""clouds postFx=false"" from the code" Every minor change needs to be listed. I am sick and tired of noticing major changes in gameplay interactions each patch. Like walls are now again 50cal able. APDS loosing a bit of pen, bullet speeds changing, new hitboxes for bushes and trees and much much more in just this last patch. Never mentioned once and absolutle relevant to gameplay.
Further proof gaijin doesnt play their own game. They still put 3 minute reloads onto meme tanks when matches last a whole 5 minutes. You fire, kill 2 things, and cant reload before the game ends. Meanwhile the BMP and 2S38 is just running around.
I've noticed a similar bug with ah-1f tow missiles towards the end of their range. They start to wiggle more and more on their path. Not so mush in test drive though. Would be neat to see you try using the stormer at present also, just to showcase how much non rus nations get shafted. They nerfed it hard with the missile changes and that was after already nerfing it previously.
Bruce Leeroy made a video a bti ago about ATGMs and why are they are currentlky terrible, the video directly called: Why ATGMs Are Terrible Right Now (In War Thunder)
Im so happy you are like the only youtuber that makes me feel upset about how much stronger russian vehicles are especially how stupidly op and strong the su-25 and how SHITTTT the a-10 armor is
Hey Odd, could you do another 75 Jumbo video? I know you did a 76 Jumbo video because of the update and BR Changes, but I want to see how the 75 does, thanks!
Tbh the missile issues is not just on this vehicle. The ACRA is also a terrible offender when it comes to not going where you aim. It seems that the faster the missile is, the more it wiggles due to server lag. I think it’s because they only update their flight path every so often to not tax the server to much, but that causes them to overshoot everytime before updating their flight path on the crosshairs, and the faster and nimbler the missile is, the more it will overshoot. But with that there is also the issue that if you have a bad internet connection, the missile just won’t go where you aim, and kinda of will only go in certain predetermined places, so it physically can’t be aim in 80% of the places you want it to go. Those 2 issues makes me unable to use the AMX10M which I wish I could play because it looks so funny
I really want this thing but no way in hell am I grinding the event and I dont feel like buying it for God knows how much on the market, though when I get back to new jersey from Florida I'm probably going to buy the Taiwanese m41
"if the missiles would fly straight as they do in real life" Yeah.... None of the missiles do that in game... All hail gaijin.... Hell a missile fired from a cannon (lets say a T-72) shouldnt dip either but it does
Fascinating, that people still think that if something was russian, wouldve been better in game cause there is russian bias! Stop this nonsense, first of all, look at the US tech tree, it is full of prototype vehicles that failed IRL and Odd saying that this missiles are flying straight in the real life, well ofcourse if you are on a train with 0 degree of elevation, then yes, but when your entire vehicle is facing down or up, the missiles will fly also downwards or upwards at the first! Btw, russian missiles are better and more reasonable than the american ones, otherwise the americans itself wouldve based their military on them, so there is no need for crying for them; it is just bad!
People who don't play with realistic sight location dont shoot the fucking ground challenge. The missiles don't origin from directly in your aimer, they are a sideways higher and lower battery. Some go up some go down to crosshair depending on next one firing. Your turret was not clear during the misses around 6 minutes in the slightest haha. Cant really mortar t hem eaither cause they are too fast. tough vehicle to use in lag.
"I just want a normal gun" then use a regular tank. The downside of the tank is very obvious in test drive so to complain about what you already know kind of irritates me.
I've been struggling for motivation to play WT recently, I was kinda hoping this vehicle would reinvigorate a bit of drive to try and grind for it on this event after seeing the devblogs, but everything I've seen so far has left me wanting in the motivation dept. I'll stick to sim racing for now. @OddBawz @bamikazegarage More S2000 content please!!! 😁😁😁
This is the only event in 4 years that made me quit wt during the time its live, great decision titanfall 2 is amazing after it being gone for so long. Other then that the losar is trash, jada, jada, jada. Illget it if it reaches 10 bucks or something XD
The biggest upside of this vehicle is the sheer hilarity of the killcam when an APFSDS round the size of a telephone pole just sheers through the tank
And the very little shrapnel that accompanies it compared to its size...
Doesn’t work in the game. Everything that was on the test track that made you want this vehicle is absolutely the opposite when you get it into real battle. It doesn’t penetrate armor anything like it does on the test track another trick by gaijin.
@@jameshopkins5702how are the vehicles in the testing track in any way different from the vehicles in an actual match..?
@@pikantoz7146 well, you would know that if you would’ve tested it before you unlocked it, the missiles flew completely straight. They had no curvature in the vehicle fired on the move and it also didn’t roll back-and-forth like a boat.
Dont forget it should obliberate any tanks with it massive ass telephone pole and yet some time it only kill 1 crew man
Gaijin trying to NOT release anything in a broken state that makes it look unfinished: Impossible
If it's not Russia then it ain't getting finished
@@snek1557, unless it benefits said russian/soviet vehicle.
@@YeEpIkAiYeIit's easier to make something you see every day. (75% countries used Soviet tanks)
shhhh, let them act like they know anything about document release orders and export projects/blueprints being open to the public.@@komisiantikorupsikoruptord6257
Well the missiles should actually be more accurate since the targeting system in real life could fire at two tanks simultaneously and the missiles should fly a bit straighter off launch
Also the X-Ray shots is bugged. It shows the whole missle penetrating the vehicle instead of the internal dart. Quite the comical sight tbh
Just a huge log failing to pen vehicles, nothing to see here.
@@Three60Mafia "We fire the whole bullet! That's 65% more bullet per bullet!"
It's not bugged it's just not modeled that the missile itself gets destroyed on impact, it's not like the dart detaches midair
Need it
I'd love to see you and Spookston in a collaboration again. I always enjoy when you have too much fun!
I'd love to see Spookston and Phly sometime
You didn’t hear about the falling out?
@@cheesetownboatrepairmainte2101Elaborate.
@@cheesetownboatrepairmainte2101wait who had a falling out?
@@cheesetownboatrepairmainte2101
Proof. Trust me bro
This missile really shows how much the netcode bugs up all the missiles. The nerf to missiles from a few months ago wasn't supposed to make them as bad as they are in a live match. The predictive guidance needs to be dampened a lot. Might make it slightly harder to hit evasive targets, but a lot easier to hit nonmoving targets.
The physical missle model really messed up fast atgms.
Damped is exactly right. It should actually make it much easier to hit moving targets, since even a basic PID controller is going to critically damp the oscillation very effectively.
Yeah even missiles like the ACRA are wobbly
They actually seem to have updated the launch trajectory today where it pops up a little first. Yesterday it did not do that for me and its made it more reliable at range and even stranger at close range.
Yeah the missile comes out the tube going basically Mach one but gaijin is braindead so the missile acceleration and burn time is completely scuffed alongside the tracking
So we get F-100 with less gun, the missile that doesn't know where it is, low tier AGM, and a ship I'm certain the 3 people that get it will certainly do something with. Can't say I'm all that upset about missing this event.
The actual crafting event is RNG as well, you get " defective " parts that nearly resets your progress in crafting.
Snail strikes again. Can't wait until the "player base" consists of the youtubers gaijoob floats along and ONLY the TH-camrs.
@@eaglemach9992no it’s not the first 2 missiles are always faulty and the third is always good pretty sure. No rng as you say
@@multimemer5317that's even worse, as it's an artificial dam to prevent you from reaching the goal. Not RNG "crafting chance", but rather just something purely to frustrate you and your efforts even more so than the soul crushing grind this game demands.
@@stillcantbesilencedevennowthat's not worse LOL. It is no different from other events. Sure, in other events you had to craft 1 thing and here 3, but it is multiple times easier to craft, so it is kinda even in the end
I like how it had the problem of the missile dipping when it fires which in reality, it didn't do, the round flew straight as an arrow after launch and they fixed it by instead making the arrow arch UP when it fires lmao
*GAIJIN FIXED WIGGLY MISSILE THIS MORNING KINDA* THE LOSAT MIGHT BE BUGGY... BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT ISN'T? THE GAIJIN STORE! GET MY DECAL AND 3% OFF HERE: store.gaijin.net/catalog.php?category=WarThunder&partner=Oddbawz&partner_val=2bpa5qx4
Hey odd I need a pz.70 the 4.3 one vid man
U need to play the rest of missile ifv's they are hell to use since the missile at launch tries to literally eat the dirt
HOLY CAPS xD
Hey odd can you try to teach the people watching you how to properly use the tiger tanks? Both 1s and 2s
Yeah Odd I cannot imagine how bad this missile is with high ping (F for Australian players,) I'm getting an average of 25-65 ping depending on the server cluster it puts me in and the missile rarely ever hits where I'm aiming past ~1.2km. Hopefully they fix this, but I doubt it, since it's the same bug that plagues the ADATS missile for many months now.
Funny how the krizantema has no struggle with missile dip, wobble, or guidance. Almost like gaijin doesn't want the LOSAT to be good and only want players to pay for it
Man gaijin just made this tank absolutely shit with how the missiles for some bizzare reason can't fly straight and level, instead corkscrews everywhere, inexplicably lofts up, or dumps into the ground. And the fact that a hypersonic kinetic energy missile gets stopped by cover is stupid, when in reality it had so much kinetic energy (80kg kinetic energy missile going at ~1500m/s is a shit ton of energy) that it obliterated its test targets into confetti. Like why? Why can't you make sense Gaijin? Why can't you make good, reliable event vehicles?
We knew the missiles were kinda screwed but this gameplay showed the problem much more clearer
They need to remove the new flight physics and add old controls back to atgms
The missiles fly like a straw wrapper being blown off…. Change my mind
Another vehicle that was featured in a IRL vehicle requests video made by Spookston. Now we wait to see if any other vehicles from those videos gets added a some point in the future.
Live Spookston Reaction.
I don’t know if anyone has noticed but the ground RP gains seems to be lessened. I got 11 kills 2 assists and only got about 5k rp. This was with the turm lll and it seems different.
I got a 3 kill air rb game in the Saab-105g and got 3k rp where I would’ve normally got 7
You guys get rp?
Ssdd. The snail waited until folks stopped watching and reinstated their "economy improvements" I'd wager. That or just across the board nerfed things and smirked about the lazy, pointless "boycott" people did that they've since gone back on. Pay pigs are ALL gaijoob cares about. Dunno why folks keep taking it on the chin then acting surprised. My brother in Christ, eschew the snail.
Wierd. I get pretty good rewards. Like 16k rp when capturing 2 points, 4 kills and 2 assists
@@digitalisman3267 wtf? You using a premium or something?
It's been a few months now and gaijin still refuses to fix the ATGM problems. I don't think they have even acknowledges their existence despite being so incredibly obvious
I think they broke missiles on many vehicles. Even in terms of aircraft, the AS-30 Nord on the Milan is pretty wiley as well for some reason
Missles were given a proper in game physical model which means that it gets screwed by the ping
Well irl the launcher was tilted slightly upwards to counteract the missile from hitting the ground and help the missile get up to speed effectively.
Yea, but the missile flew straight from the go, without guidance it would fly at a constant alight upward angle identical to the tube angle.
In game it falls down if you are on a back slope and up when on an incline... so 100% a bug... and they "fixed" it by making the missile go up even more... so on an incline you are launching a rocket to the moon.
I really hope the fix this thing, because it's a very weird and cool vehicle.
They need to reintroduce the old atgm system back for this vehicle to work properly, firing on the move and atgm indicator so u dont waste 1 missile to test if u are elevate enough, also 1 extra 12 shots reload because i aint going to cap zone to reload for 2 minutes when there are no friendly to protect me.
@@ZzVinniezZ I agree wiith everything except the extra ammo. They should just make the restock time much faster and remove the reloading time after you restock.
@@russman3787 yeah faster restock would been better if they gonna keep it like this.
This video should be titled "Not Ideal"
Gaijin netcode at it again.
Only been bitching about the servers being trash for 5 years but hey.
"skill issue". ATGM's never behave like they do in the test drive.
Probably the MG would be more useful than the missiles themselves lol
Sad part is that mg even have limited elevation which u cant use it like a turtle to shoot down aircraft....so yeah...this thing is so sad
@@ZzVinniezZ :((((
The game implementation is utter nonsense. I worked on this system. First it’s not a beam rider. Second the fire control automatically tracks and locks the first three targets it sees. There is no need to ‘sight’ or move the turret or aim anything. If it’s in the FLIR wide field of view the system does everything. All the gunner had to do was consent to fire at any or all of the locked targets. Less than a second between missile launches. The lethality is nonsense. The system will one shot any vehicle. If it’s a turret hit the turret is gone. If it’s a hull hit the entire frontal armor plate fails and is injected into the rest of the fighting compartment. No vehicle could survive a KEM hit. None. The missile trajectory is offset from the line of sight…and the laser is only used to remove initial launch errors. It pointed at the missile aft end so the target was never illuminated…a laser warning receiver does it no good. If the motor burn out has not occurred the propellant going high order is equivalent to 100lb GP bomb…in addition to the penetrator. I could go on but the game dev obviously doesn’t know or understand how the system worked. In its final iteration the vehicle could be parked and left unmanned - killing anything it saw. A data link between fire units insured that no two systems fired at the same targets. A platoon of LOSAT could kill an entire tank battalion in less than 60 seconds if the targets were either exposed or popping in and out view. It could engage helicopters and aircraft - as long as it’s in the FLIR field of view. The missile had plenty of maneuverability for such targets. If a jet was ‘incoming’ and not crossing laterally it would be a dead jet. I could go on but watching this video was painful as it’s obviously a case of gimped modeling.
One thing worth mentioning a major mount for these things was supposed to be the roofs of regular utility vehicles, not the armored vehicle setup in game.
Random Humvees being able peek you and make you disappear four times in 3 seconds is a scary thought.
I think you should take a T-34-85 into 10.3 to see if you can beat your score with this weird thing :D
Looks like the missile is so god damn fast that it doesn't know what to do with prediction on the server side when it's being moved remotely by the user, making it spazz out.
Your analysis looks bang on, this seems to be a networking issue.
This thing looks so painful. Looks like all the event vehicles are worthless (I know nothing about naval.)
Nobody cares about naval.
no the premium is gonna be a fun low tier troll machine im gonna enjoy using that agm as an aam to shoot down big ass bombers its slow enough it should be easy to guide but fast enough that no bomber can get away from it
@@paktahn I'll use it against cancer Ostwind IIs at 5.7 BR range.
Something definitely affects the missile on live servers and it causes the missiles to make large, abrupt, changes, instead of small, gentle ones when aiming.
Here is a demonstration of the issue: th-cam.com/video/KIZB5sQeKws/w-d-xo.htmlsi=7P0gmOvHU3g4ZX5E
15:40 did bawz mean he’d do better with the t34 85 at 10.3 because I’d like to see that
They should give us a Humvee with a TOW launcher.
The LOSAT system "was designed to be mounted onto a Humvee light military vehicle while allowing the vehicle to remain air-portable. LOSAT eventually emerged on an extended-length heavy-duty Humvee with a hard-top containing four KEMs used by special operations."
But yeah we need more shitty technicals. pickup trucks with t-34 turrets, scooters with recoilless rifles, motorcycles with machine guns.
Maybe we could start with a Toyota pickup with a .50 cal on it
At 15:40 you mentioned you could do better with a t34-85. Could that be the next challenge video then? A top tier t34.
"I just wish I had a normal gun" is a pretty damning review of this thing.
Been a horrible experience playing this event, playing at chinese times, reviewing games just to report bastards....
A certified spoon kid classic
BRENDA
Nahh, thats lucky lamma
Hey Odd, love your vids and learned quite a bit from them. Today i was able to launch my first nuke and while its not much in the grand scheme it felt like a small accomplishment. Anyway keep up the nice vids and have a good one.
The wiggly missile was caused by Gaijin simply copy-pasting the missile physics from ADATS.
It’s day 283 of writing comments for the algorithm.
Only 1 today cause I’m kinda drunk and I can’t write that well
Yo Odd I think the issue with the missile comes from the game itself. If you look at some of those modded planes with 10x engine power etc. After they go a certain speed the plane just starts jittering. Same thing that is happening to this missile by the looks of it. Might be whats going on but idk
You mean the wings jitter about because they’re about to fly off, which they’re known to do?
Don’t use all the rockets...the restock on a cap is soooooooooooooo....long
I love these vids but I can't help but think of how many people play in a prem and leave after one death trying to be like the content creators. I wish you'd play some lineup videos.
what a coincidence, a wiggly missile gives your mom anxiety too
You know what isn't broken? The Jpz 4-5. pLeaSe i beG yOu
Pls play the ikv 91-105. I found the apds to be very good
Now when it hits its just normal size apfsds round like a tank round and detonates if u try to hit a plane or heli. Game is just russian win simulator to its core.
Welp, time to make a new video on the losat odd. been a literal day since ur first one and its basically a completely different tank now cause they nerfed it to hell.
That killcam at 15:32 where the whole missile just ricochets off of the ammo storage is just Gaijin's recent masterwork in how not to make a viable and functional game.
You've done better than most in this thing. Average was 3 kills and a few assists. 😂😂
As goofy as this thing is, it's a real shame I won't be able to grind for it since I'm currently deployed.
The LOSAT is and always has been one of my favorite pieces of tech, so it's no wonder Gaijin would do an event like this when I'm not able to play the game.
Me too, im deployed as well, and couldn't grind for it. low key annoying. They should just make it to where you can buy it if you couldnt grind for it.
I saw Phly’s video on this thing, and he was having the issue of the missiles constantly landing in front of him 30 meters away…
Partly due to him sitting on downslopes and partly from the missile dropping before it gets up to speed. The second part has been hotfixed and they get a bit of lift right after launching. But you still don't want to fire while your launcher is pointing at the ground.
As someone who has the losat it's very limited on what it can do. Ot doesn't go up or down and can't shoot on the go. But if you manage to connect it'd very deadly
it's wiggly because it's a rocket
it's not rocket science
Currently it has the same problem as the ADATS. The american beam riding missiles seem to wiggle and make easy shots miss. This doesnt happen in test drive but does happen in live matches.
Weirdly enough this desnt happen to russian beam riding missiles. Hmmmm...
What could possibly be the cause of this difference? We must put our best scientists on answering this.
Looks like they've partially fixed it; Phy had a vid yesterday where the thing kept nosediving every shot straight into the ground.
That was mostly from Phly not watching where the vehicle was parked. It takes a while to get used to the fact that you can't elevate the turret while sitting on the downslope of a hill. If your hull is angled down your turret is also angled down.
You need to test the losat on ships and the russian nuke tank!
Hi oddbawz! I was wondering if you could play the AMX 50 FOSH?
This video had a lot of commentary on what everybody else is doing 😂
It was from a program around the same time as the CCVL since the US wanted to test using a kinetic missile
Yeah it was as a whole discontinued in 2003.
Any plans on making a vid with the IS-7?
Probably not unfortunately
LOSAT but russian, Oh god dont give them any ideas.
They'll end up mounting LOSAT missiles on an obj 279
There's is blueprints of the Obj. 279 armed with a 240mm Rocket launcher and one armed with a missile launcher which fires the same missile as the IT-1.
The obj. 279 had tons of different variants planned, and one of them had composite armor for the hull front and sides.
@@UnknownMemoryOfTheDistantStar dear god
DAY 36: @OddBawZ i love the content and i have a request can you please play the Swedish BKAN 1C !
The missile doesn't know where it is
Missiles of all sorts are effected by ping. With my Aussie ping of 170 - 400+ ping this is easily seen. Atgm were impossible to use for over a year if you were Australian.
As Goldfinger knew:
First time: Happenstance. Second time: Coincidence. Third time: ENEMY ACTION.
The missile knows where it is....
Ok...looked forward in watching an objective vid from you....and ofc, your absolutely bs bias @ 3:00........yeah, keep it going... another viewer gone 👌...maybe go back playing normal tech tree stuff.
From what I can tell the guidance system should have some elevation especially since it is meant to kill things at a long distance. It is just inaccurately modelled. For the record the turret does not elevate but the tracking system's camera (for lack of a better word) should have considerably better elevation.
My favorite war thunder content creator (Bo Time Gaming) did a video right before Gaijin "patched" the missile behavior. It was on the IT-1. Gaijin said they're adjusting the ATGMs, and their flight after launch, and its definitely broken compared to how it was before 3 months ago. Maybe gaijin watched a bunch of kids cartoons and figured that's how missiles are supposed to work? or a lot of low-budget action movies where the "missiles" are actually firecrackers, and their flight path is "let's veer off comically to the right or left just after launch.."
3:07 ok Go cry more like damn
They'll put this in the game and the Chaparral, but not the MLRS. The same tube launched missiles as the LOSAT and the base vehicle as the Chaparral. I'd even settle for a TOW on a HWMMV but they won't give the American Tech Tree anything but something for Russian Tanks to shoot at. Also a big lack of ARM for USA.
I love it....perfect event vehicle. Weird, unique, and not OP.
It is how it should be
war thunder needs to fix the br ratting to more year, not br, as im in a ww2 tank fighting god damn, modern tanks, like its pissing me off
This tank proves once again that gaijin does not test new stuff at all.
Like 0 on hoise testing and 0 external testing happens before a release to the players. Without the PVE we would be unable to play the game for a month after each patch.
This is also why we need patchnotes telling us of every single change happening, even if it is just sth like "removed line ""clouds postFx=false"" from the code"
Every minor change needs to be listed. I am sick and tired of noticing major changes in gameplay interactions each patch. Like walls are now again 50cal able. APDS loosing a bit of pen, bullet speeds changing, new hitboxes for bushes and trees and much much more in just this last patch. Never mentioned once and absolutle relevant to gameplay.
Further proof gaijin doesnt play their own game.
They still put 3 minute reloads onto meme tanks when matches last a whole 5 minutes.
You fire, kill 2 things, and cant reload before the game ends. Meanwhile the BMP and 2S38 is just running around.
I've noticed a similar bug with ah-1f tow missiles towards the end of their range. They start to wiggle more and more on their path. Not so mush in test drive though.
Would be neat to see you try using the stormer at present also, just to showcase how much non rus nations get shafted. They nerfed it hard with the missile changes and that was after already nerfing it previously.
Bruce Leeroy made a video a bti ago about ATGMs and why are they are currentlky terrible, the video directly called: Why ATGMs Are Terrible Right Now (In War Thunder)
Im so happy you are like the only youtuber that makes me feel upset about how much stronger russian vehicles are especially how stupidly op and strong the su-25 and how SHITTTT the a-10 armor is
Hey Odd, could you do another 75 Jumbo video?
I know you did a 76 Jumbo video because of the update and BR Changes, but I want to see how the 75 does, thanks!
Tbh the missile issues is not just on this vehicle. The ACRA is also a terrible offender when it comes to not going where you aim. It seems that the faster the missile is, the more it wiggles due to server lag. I think it’s because they only update their flight path every so often to not tax the server to much, but that causes them to overshoot everytime before updating their flight path on the crosshairs, and the faster and nimbler the missile is, the more it will overshoot.
But with that there is also the issue that if you have a bad internet connection, the missile just won’t go where you aim, and kinda of will only go in certain predetermined places, so it physically can’t be aim in 80% of the places you want it to go. Those 2 issues makes me unable to use the AMX10M which I wish I could play because it looks so funny
I really want this thing but no way in hell am I grinding the event and I dont feel like buying it for God knows how much on the market, though when I get back to new jersey from Florida I'm probably going to buy the Taiwanese m41
Proof Gaijin just throwing new useless vehicles into game without consideration. 🙄 I dream of the day updates are about fixes like major fixes.
was grinding this event for this but after seeing gameplay i stopped
"if the missiles would fly straight as they do in real life" Yeah.... None of the missiles do that in game... All hail gaijin.... Hell a missile fired from a cannon (lets say a T-72) shouldnt dip either but it does
I need more boolets
If only gaijin could buy better servers for all those “new” players 😂 the wiggly missile bug is annoying, makes the tow’s really shaky unlike irl too
Fascinating, that people still think that if something was russian, wouldve been better in game cause there is russian bias! Stop this nonsense, first of all, look at the US tech tree, it is full of prototype vehicles that failed IRL and Odd saying that this missiles are flying straight in the real life, well ofcourse if you are on a train with 0 degree of elevation, then yes, but when your entire vehicle is facing down or up, the missiles will fly also downwards or upwards at the first! Btw, russian missiles are better and more reasonable than the american ones, otherwise the americans itself wouldve based their military on them, so there is no need for crying for them; it is just bad!
imp pretty sure that you cant ammorack losat since its a solid shot penetrator with rocket fuel. there are no explosives
Might be able to critical hit it like smoke canisters though
@@volteer1332 perhaps
People who don't play with realistic sight location dont shoot the fucking ground challenge.
The missiles don't origin from directly in your aimer, they are a sideways higher and lower battery. Some go up some go down to crosshair depending on next one firing. Your turret was not clear during the misses around 6 minutes in the slightest haha. Cant really mortar t hem eaither cause they are too fast. tough vehicle to use in lag.
Woah, i know for a fact it took some patience playing this thing for so many matches lol
This is a suffer one but show why the EBR 1963 that is now at 7.7 is absolute garbage. But also do as you do and show you can make gold out of crap
It just doesn't do anything any other APSFDS MBT can't do better.
"I just want a normal gun" then use a regular tank. The downside of the tank is very obvious in test drive so to complain about what you already know kind of irritates me.
Hey odd, can you please play churchill mk7 or chieftain mk3? Please?
For some reason all atgms now act like this. My bmp1 missles just dive right into the ground 99 percent of the time
The killcam: “I’m here to talk to you about your tanks extended warranty.”
It's bad.
4 times faster would be way worse imagine you shoot at a guy 1000m away and before you can even react it's already 3km away.
I've been struggling for motivation to play WT recently, I was kinda hoping this vehicle would reinvigorate a bit of drive to try and grind for it on this event after seeing the devblogs, but everything I've seen so far has left me wanting in the motivation dept. I'll stick to sim racing for now.
@OddBawz @bamikazegarage More S2000 content please!!! 😁😁😁
They need to bring back an event that lets you get goofy vehicles like the VF1-2, the VFW, Sav 20.12.48, and Strumtiger
This is the only event in 4 years that made me quit wt during the time its live, great decision titanfall 2 is amazing after it being gone for so long. Other then that the losar is trash, jada, jada, jada. Illget it if it reaches 10 bucks or something XD
I'll grab it if it goes low enough that I can trade the swedish wheeled thing for it, on the off chance that gaijin fixes it and it becomes busted op.