"When you're creating your own fantasy world, why would you further perpetuate this negative, harmful stereotype of masculinity- that men have to be protective over women, or that they have to have some sort of ownership over women?" 👏👏👏👏 Aaaaand this is the reason I can't bring myself to read anything written by Sarah J. Maas. And frankly you SHOULD make a video just on this topic, that would be fantastic!
Shakespeare and Such This is strange to me. I've always love Sarah J Maas's books because she's so pro-feminist and her characters are as well. All the Females are super strong and most of the men (except for Tamlin but he's a tool and he's the only one) Are super feminist. Rowan and Rhysand. (I don't want to spoil anyone for ACOMAF). But I know she says how we shouldn't excuse it because they are Fae males. But It explains the history behind it and in every relationship she's created That I've read the guys lighten up. They know that the way they act isn't right and that their significant other handles themselves. There are a ton of situations I've read in her books that explain this. So I'm just wondering how far/how many books of here's you've read? Because if you've only read ACOTAR than I would highly recommend reading ACOMAF because it explains this very well.
From what I understand ACOTAR does get better when you read the second book, I just hate having to slog through one book that annoys me to get to a really great one, if that makes sense? It's not any hate against her as an author, it's just not my cup of tea.
Oh well I think it's totally worth it to get to the second one. It's one of my favorite books of all time! At least ACOTAR is a quick read so if you do you won't have to go through it for long. :)
Shakespeare and Such I totally agree with this sentiment but ACOTAR would probably surprise you--the first book seems like it's going to go in the direction you state but it all gets flipped around in ACOMAF :)
You know, people always seem to say that ACOMAF is all feminist and everything, but Rhys is just as over protective and territorial than all the other love interests...idk, it bothers me so much that no one seems to see it
I totally agree with you on Rowan and Aelin!!!!! ugh I have always felt like it was forced and like there's no actual depth to their relationship, all the rest of the characters have such perfectly developed relationships so I don't know why theirs is the worst!!!
I feel that way about so many relationships (in books, movies, and tv) where the main relationship you're supposed to be invested in is BY FAR the most boring/problematic/worst one
This sounds weird but can I just say I am so relieved that you didn't put a disclaimer in this video. There's no reason for you to apologize for your opinions, it's your channel and we all saw the title, lol. And also yes to your answer on the least favorite trope!!! I am totally here for you making a video going in more depth about that, too. and i agree with you on Colleen Hoover... i read 3 of her books and hated 2/3 of them. i dont understand the hype either
Aria which ones did you read & which one was okay? When I read November 9 I LOVED IT, but everyone said it was extremely problematic (I see that now). But when I read Ugly Love, it was such a toxic relationship yet nobody talks about it. I want to get into her other books but I'm hesitant as to which ones perpetuate harmful topics now
Kelsey Partridge I read Ugly Love, Too Late, and her latest release It Ends With Us. I agree with you on Ugly Love, I found the relationship in that book to be really toxic and the main character totally lacked agency when it came to the love interest. Too Late was a little better but it was a mess in my opinion and had a lot of dark and sensitive themes that weren't portrayed well, instalove, and the epilogues (there were two, didn't get the point of that) were totally cringy ruined the whole story for me. It Ends With Us is the only book of hers I enjoyed, it deals with abuse and toxic relationships, which is kind of ironic, considering that seems to be a theme that is romanticized often in her other books.
Aria haha that's ironic! And I was actually really hoping you'd say It Ends with Us was good bc I got it for Xmas, but didn't know if I'd read it after the others. Thanks!
i'd recommend you read Slammed ! its very good! i hate this genre but slammed really got me into hoover's books .. dont like them all but the best one is slammed series for me !
Omg Rowan and Aelin are the most forced ship EVER. Also, if you want a good sci-fi series, I would recommend The Lunar Chronichles. I never read sci-fi (I don't even like it) but these books blew me away.
Finally someone! Honestly I just can't stand Clary. She was so annoying to me that I almost throw Lady Midnight on wall when I saw her name on page. Ugh
I agree with you on the book trope about the territorial male characters. And also even though I still really like Sarah J Maas's books I think that she has some issues that she could improve on. Also what's so weird to me is that even though she pushes a lot of feminist ideas in her books she still romanticizes these male possessive characters.
I've just started reading Throne of Glass, and so far I'd have to agree. I also don't feel like I can connect with the main character, Celaena, at all.
If you want a cool YA trilogy without the focus being the romance arc I recommend the Chemical Garden Trilogy (the first book is called Wither). It has a LITERAL love triangle where the protagonist is kidnapped and forced to be a sister wife with two other women, but the romance angle is never pushed with her husband. She starts falling for a servant who is also falling for her, but he is practically an afterthought in the books. Her main goal is escape and finding her brother, and none of the guys (even the forced husband) ever push themselves on her. It is a HUGE expectation subversion when it comes to male/female dynamics. I hope I'm not hyping you up just to let you down with the series, but I honestly recommend it so hard!
I understand your opinion on the whole overprotective alpha male/territorial alpha males in books especially YA Fantasy. It's definitely become a popular trend for authors to use in their books. I usually read about these types of characters in the New Adult and Romance genre. As a reader who loves romance, I personally love the alpha male characters. But I do think is overused and can sometimes come off as abusive and controlling, which isn't attractive. I think putting a controlling male character in a YA books can easily give younger readers the wrong perception that it's okay for a guy to be overprotective and jealous if the girl even looks at another guy. So while I enjoy it in to romance books when not overdone, I don't feel like it should be used in the YA genre.
As far as a series everyone seems to love that I didn't, it had to be Throne of Glass for me. I just didn't buy Celaena as a badass assassin. I mean, we are TOLD over and over again that she's this cut-throat killer, but all we ever see her doing is eating cake and obsessing over what she is wearing. I also didn't like that the 'competition' to find the best baddie mostly happened off-page and what we do see is pretty lame...I mean really...an obstacle course? Anyway, I know I am very much in the minority on this one...oh well.
Desiree McLaughlin That annoyed me too but my guess is that we were told it over and over and over by the narration to echo her thoughts and the fact she needed to believe it even if it wasn't 100% the truth.
RKTFTW27 So many people are obsessed with this series, so maybe it gets better. But I have WAY too many unread books on my shelves (seriously...it's a sickness) that I'm actually excited about reading. I also started trying to read her other series awhile and didn't like that either. I just don't think SJM is for me. Oh well ☺
yes!!!! They say she is an assassin and she's actually supposed to be the best one, that's what they say. But she does so many stupid stuffs, the battle scenes are so bad written. Assassins are supposed to be smart cold blooded murders who work in the shadows and make strategies about what they are going to do. She's like aah I have a fight tomorrow, but I'm the best so I'm just going to try on a lot of dresses eat cake and do a lot of stupid things. I love the idea of a badass female assassin and that's why I read it but it was so disappointing.
I feel like what may have happened was Sarah J Maas and this may be kind of spoilly you've been warned! I feel like she was going to have Chaol be endgame but then Rowan this hot old gray haired fae animal popped into her head and as she was writing the third book she decided right in the middle of the third book right after she created such a beautiful friendship she decided "You know what change of plans I like Rowan much better then Chaol maybe Rowan and Aelin should actually be together!" "You know what yes yes they should in fact I'm going to make them mates so no one can question their relationship and say they shouldn't be a thing!" Even though in book five they say if mates can't physically hurt each other yet Rowan and Aelin have hit each other so many times! :l
It said that mates who are aware of the bond cannot harm each other and in HoF neither of them knew that they were mates. In addition to sarah j mass said that chaol is her favorite character hence she wrote a full book about him AKA ToD.
You should absolutely do another video about tropes you have, I think it would be amazing. I completely agree with the possessive, territorial guy trope, it is problematic on so many levels. And a book that everyone loves that I don't really care for is The Book Thief, because while the writing was beautiful and I think it's an important read, I just didn't love it as much as everyone else seems to.
Omg I have the territorial male trope SO much but especially in fantasy like you say, why perpetuate harmful behaviour when you can completely create your own norms? I love this tag so much and agree with so many of your answers! I also have 0 interest in Coleen Hoover
For science fiction recommendations I highly highly recommend Ready Player One. I love it because of all the 80s references, the treasure hunt aspect and the awesome world building
Even before reading the sequel, the best I could ever do was tolerate Tamlin. When reading the first parts of the second book, I was slamming my head against the desk to get through spring court scenes and immediately perked up when night court scenes started up again
I never read sci-fi and the only book that I read "accidently" without knowing anything about it is Divergent and I finished the three books in about a week! I couldn't put it down and I just LOVE them ( regardless of that part from Allegiant that we don't talk about)
Rowan and Aelin YESSSSS! I'm going to watch your booktalks right now because I feel the exact same way! And it's so strange to find someone who doesn't die-hard ship them :P Great vid!
I love how you bash on the insecure/over-protective male bullshit. It's something that I seriously hate as well (in real-life and novels) Continue to spread the word ~
I agreed with much of what you said except for one thing. Well maybe two. I didn't mind Julian's character but i do wanna see more of him in the next book. However I disagree with you about Aelin and Rowan. I loooooooooove those two together soooo much. I just....to me, it was the fact that in Heir of Fire, Aelin is at her lowest point, Rowan is there and sees all the ugliness and shame she tried to hide, but didn't turn away. He accepted everything about her, which was so beautiful. He lets her make the decisions. I love them but it's cool if you're not that much of a fan. Question. Have you read A Court of Thorns and Roses? Any thoughts on those?
Woa Julian is my 2nd fave all time character by Cassandra, just losing for Jem. I'll check out your video about Lady Midnight cause I'm genuinely curious about your reasons to dislike him.
Amen to Aelin and Rowan's insufferable relationship and the annoying territorial trope. I love the throne of glass series but I have so many problems with the writing at the same time.
I completely agree with your opinion about Rowan and Aelin. Rowan, I basically just hated as a character but Aelin I actually liked in the first 3 books as Celaena. Her personality completely changed and it took me a VERY long time to finish QoS. In addition, Choal's personality did as well, and I felt that SJM intentionally tried to make readers hate him. He was the most complex character and essentially just threw him to the side to make way for Rowan and Aelin. I still wish that Chaolena happened.
Dune by Frank Herbert for sci-fi. Its world-building is so detailed, from geological, to political, to religious. It is considered a masterpiece for a reason. I cannot recommend it enough.
lolol haha if you love dylan o brien do you watch Teen wolf?? red queen - everyone loves that book but i do NOT. wow your opinions are super insightful and enlightening. I wouldn't even be able to convey what i want to say in the video its so hard haha
Not sure if this book is already mentioned somewhere, but The Long Way To A Small Angry Planet by Becky Chambers is a really good sci-fi where the focus is more on the characters and social/cultural aspects rather than being it hard, really tech-focused sci-fi. Also, it's amazing.
You are absolutely fantastic! This video should be the introduction to the Booktube sphere, honestly. You don't shame any of those books but you do explain things that happen in a lot of popular YA series that should not be okay and that young people should be aware of before getting into them. They are all amazing escape places but we still have to mention what they do wrong as much as the reasons why we love them and talk about them so much. Great work!
I totally agree with you on a ton of these! However, I do really like John Green but that's probably because his writing resonates with me more than it does with you (which is okay! everyone has their own feelings).
I just started watching your videos and I know this is an old video, but I really appreciate everything you said in this video. It takes a lot of courage to express unpopular opinions--especially when it's something really popular. I haven't picked up a book by Cassandra Clare's since late high school which was five years ago. I think I might read some of her books in the future after cutting down on the list of books that I want to finish. I know her writing has grown since then, and I'm willing to give her books another try.
With me, it's not that I don't like Aelin amd Rowan, I like them, but not as a couple....I just don't ship them... I mean, I absolutely adored their 'friendship' in Heir of Fire but then it developed into something else and it developed way too fast and I just feel like it's costantly shoved down my throat...But that doesn't stop me from enjoying the book...I don't absolutely detest them as you do...and I actually love some of the characters in the series...Manon is by far my favourite. I just see eye to eye with her and we have the same way of thinking and she does all the things I wish I could do...Yeah, Manon is my spirit animal...
I totally agree with what you said about Julian. He just seemed to be losing it a little bit in Lady Midnight and that's not a great sign. I'm thinking Cassandra Clare will use it as plot points in the coming books so hopefully he will have a chance to grow.
I really appreciate your honesty as always. I've been trying lots of books because of booktube and I have many unpopular opinions. Some series I did not like at all were: Winner's Curse, Raven Boys, A Gathering of Shadows and Six of Crows
Julian has flaws but his loyalty and dedication to his family is amazing. He pretty much raised his siblings and ran an institute while he was barely in his teens years. Not liking him becuase he can be "annoying" is honestly so idiotic and totally erases and of his character.
I love your videos, you always have a lot of great opinions, especially on over-used tropes - I share so many of your thoughts on that! Do you think you'd like to make a video of, like: how to write a likeable female protagonist? Or what your ideal female protagonist would be/act like? Would love your thoughts!
Great video! I love this tag. It always bring so many interesting and different opinions. For me it's Shatter Me and Across the universe series. I have a lot of problems with both of them. I also probably won't finish the Mortal instruments series. I've read the 5 books, yeah, but I was so mad after finishing the 5th one that I nearly threw it out of the window. Clary is one of the characters that I almost hate. So I don't want to struggle because of her any longer. Oh, and Throne of Glass... I've only read the 1st book and hearing where it went now, I'm glad I haven't continued. oh, I can rant a lot. I'll stop for now. Thanks for this video!:)
For Sci-Fi I recommend The Long Way to A Small Angry Planet. Especially if you're looking for a feel-good book, the characters and relationships are so heart-warming it makes me smile just thinking about them.
I completely agree with you on The Maze Runner series! The movies are sooo good, but I could barely get through the first book. Even the most suspenseful parts didn't make me feel any sort of excitement.
I just came here from watching your first unpopular opinions tag, and I disagree that you were awkward or that the video was awful in any way - you are simply delightful!
Just wanted to say thank you for all the videos you've made! I stumbled upon your channel a year ago and have been enjoying your videos ever since. Even though I love reading I don't really watch booktubers, but we share a lot of opinions and your voice is very pleasant to listen to (I'm sorry if that sounds weird haha). I think that you've grown a lot as a creator over the past year,
throne of glass was the reason I loved fantasy books,,, I love it,,, but I really really understand who don't love this series,,, me myself really don't like some of the things in it,,, but what I love in it that I cannot find in other books is the plot,,, the plot in Sarah's books is so nice, she doesn't write anything without having an answer or story to it later,,,
I'd love to see another Book Tropes video! I haven't read much fantasy this year but that trope seems very annoying. I guess my answer to #1 for a recentish read would be We Were Liars. I just didn't get the hype and kind of hated all the characters, didn't like the writing or the plot really.
Great video! I totally agree about territorial male trope - why do authors even think that is a good idea? It is not part of a healthy relationship! In terms of science fiction I highly recommend the Old Mans War series by John Scalzi, as well as Fuzzy Nation also by John Scalzi. I also highly recommend Dune by Frank Herbert and The Hunted Assassin by Paul B Kohler. Hope you are having a great day!
To be honest I really liked Rowan and Aelin in Queen of Shadows (even though I was still rooting for Chaol), but in Empire of Storms I ended up really disliking their relationship. Really interesting to hear that you don't like Julian, because that's not something I've really heard before!
Yesss! XD Aelin is so insufferable. I wanted to puke during the certain scenes between Rowan and Aelin. You know what I'm talking 'bout. Ick. I get that we're not supposed to love every main female character, at least that's what I convinced myself when I read TOG, but Aelin never gets better imo. She is just a complete a-hole to the bone and the world bends around her to make everyone fall in love with her and give her a position as being the most powerful and beautiful person that has ever set foot on earth. I don't care how many times people shove the 'strong female' line down my throat, she's at Kanye West's level of meglomania. I just want her to get killed off in the last book but I have a feeling she'll probably end up as the ultimate perfect, most powerful goddess of the universe or something. At this point I'm just reading for laughs, and because I stupidly bought all of the books before reading because the first three were on sale.
1. Pretty sure Julian is meant to be scary, so I'm okay with that. 2. Highly recommend Chaos Walking by Patrick Ness as a good sci-fi series. 3. Can I get what you said about territorial males printed on a t-shirt? Because I am so fucking done with the stupid trope.
For science fiction I recommend Clockwork Heart by Dru Pagliossotti. Admitedly I'm still in the middle of this book, so I can't speak to its quality as a whole. However, I'm putting it here because I've already fallen in love with the characters, the plot, and the world-building. It's in the Steampunk subgenre but it's definitely more sci-fi than it is historical fiction or fantasy.
I definitely agree with your comment on Rowan/Aelin, especially in Empire of Storms. I liked them in Queen of Shadows but I felt like their individual character and relationship was completely off in EoS. I miss the days when Nehemia was there to bring Celaena to her senses!
people pleeeeease stop calling her celaena. AELIN. Please. My god. This book is my life. Iss my pet peeve when you people cant even get the female lead's name right.
Zoe Lala I didn't like the fourth Mortal Instruments book like at all. I thought it wasn't necessary, but then I grew to like the characters they introduced and I moved through the series and I loved it all in the end
I agree with the relationship trope. I also hate when, in the same type of relationship that was spoken about, when the male is super dark and brooding and emotionally "damaged" and the female is the exact opposite, and swept off her feet by the male, even when he can be a jerk. Also that she can somehow "change" him into someone better, or when the relationship goes too fast. It feel impractical, demeaning, and overall ridiculous.
I literally started going "YES YES YES! EXACTLY!" and flailing around on my bed when you started talking about the perpetuated harmful stereotypes used in fantasy. That is the reason I could never watch or read Game of Thrones. People always excuse it with "it's like real life!" but honestly, this is fantasy, WHY do you have to make it like real life? The world you're writing is your oyster, you can do anything in it. I will never understand why writers have to continue so many ugly tropes. They should be making new ones, less harmful and better ones.
I nodded my head so much when you talked about Rowan and Aelin and the territorial bf trope it physically hurt. I don't agree with all of these but it's nice to see how you give reasons for your opinions. I've never seen anyone talk about the Gone series by Michael Grant anywhere. I started reading it years ago and reread/finished it last year (which is why I stuck to reading it in Norwegian. My friend said the Norwegian version had a ton of typos, but I didn't even notice.). I loved it so much. I felt like the concept was so fascinating, original and terrifying in a way. I will say I do think it gets better as it goes on, but I loved the characters from book one, I loved the diversity of characters, and I was blown away by how disturbing and terrible everything got as the series progressed. I really wished more people talked about it, but apparently it's bad or just really unpopular. What a shame ):
I have literally just discovered you and I am so glad someone else doesn't like Julian from LM. I finished reading LoS last night and was just thinking about it. It's so good to hear someone else has that unpopular opinion!
Hmm. I definitely see where you're coming from when you describe Julian as territorial cause while it didn't bother me as much as it for you, it was freaking ridiculous at times. I personally like him as a character cause he's different from all the other male protagonists we've had in previous books and he's intense in a scary way... Lol. He in general has a lot of potential.
These are my exact thoughts on both The Mortal Instruments/Shadowhunter Chronicles and CelaenaxRowan. I also read TMI in middle school, quickly became obsessed, and have continued to read all of CC's books eight years later. I realise now that they're not written well, are not at all creative, and are most likely plagiarised but despite all that, I still can't shake them. Every time I read the latest book it brings me right back to being thirteen and I feel nostalgic for weeks after. I'm almost embarrassed to still be reading books that I've accepted are pretty bad and trashy but they've been part of my life for so long now that I don't think I'll ever be able to stop loving them. As for Celaena and Rowan... no chemistry, no clues that they were going to be together before BAM they were, and no real reason to be together at all in my opinion. I thought the relationships in the first TOG were pretty natural but every single one in EOS felt painfully contrived and forced. It's like Sarah J Maas decided that no character of hers would be single for more than a month and then spun a wheel to see who'd end up with who.
Red Rising is amazing sci-fi! I love sci-fi too but barely read sci-fi books, but I read this book earlier this year and it was brilliant. I'm planning on finishing the series soon.
Yes I can't stand either of them either. I liked Rowan in Heir of Fire until he feel for Aelin and I hate her so I lost all respect for her. Yes for the tropes, I hate that one.
I can kind of see what you are saying about Julian but he did go through a lot of bad stuff and having to raise four kids as a twelve year old boy will take a toll on you. And he’s in love with a person that he shouldn’t be. But I do understand you’re opinion haha 🤣☺️
For your tropes portion, I completely agree. A Court of Thorns and Roses and the sequel have a very territorial male, but that sets the plot for the sequel into motion and it is recognized as bad news, so I can get on board with it in that case.
I was hoping to hear what your thoughts were on The Maze Runner And even though I love the series and the fandom has been a big part of my life I agree with your opinions all the way. Looking back James Dashner was extremely sporadic with his writing and the movies just explained the plot better. Plus the cast is 💯
When you said Rowan and Aelin I got so happy I screamed YESS!!! And scared the crap out of my BF I completely agree with you about literally everything you say about how the TOG has evolved. Yasss💕 love the video.
Lollll I hope you didn't scare him too badly 😂😂😂 I always get so happy when people tell me they agree with my opinions on TOG because it reminds me that I'm not alone 💗
Totally agreed about the territorial fae! It seems like it's suppose to be this cute thing, but it's toxic. Kind of dims the main characters badass persona with the protectiveness.
(I read these after they were all out, so I read them in order) Okay. I absolutely loved the first three TOG books (throne of glass, crown of midnight, and the assassins blade). Heir of fire was okay, queen of shadows was a hot mess, and empire of storms was so... infuriating. Like oh no, you better stop erwan, but don’t forget about Maeve, she’s a minor character that turns huge. Then the last book came out, and........what? There’s so many different views that no one knows what the heck is going on. Then the whole thing felt rushed and it was so confusing. Then absolutely no one died that we cared about, except a certain group of people who you’ll know if you read it. Then everyone else got out safe and all the couples were happy. Yay. The only people I liked were Nesryn and her boyfriend (I forgot his name). They are just happy together and neither of them are overly territorial. And they don’t freakin lie to each other all the time. And that’s the tea sis.
About the trope you mentioned, I think Tamlin in A Court of Thorns and Roses by Sarah J. Maas is a prime example. However, that trait is massively important to the second book, and Maas, in my opinion, does a really great job of addressing it.
I also think that this trope is... well. Kinda accurate and it CAN be great. For instance, I would very much like my boyfriend to be a bit jealous about some things I do (or don't but COULD to, if you get what I mean xD) to "see if he cares about me". And YES, I know, you shouldn't test someone you love and I'm pretty sure I can say I wouldn't do it because of that but sometimes... I just want to be held and told that he loves me and won't let me go. I am that simple xD It can be portrayed REALLY bad (like Twilight.. I'm sorry, had to throw that in xD) but I actually like it in SJM's books. Well, I like her books but that's not the point! xD I mean... let's be real. Character who's name I won't say but we know who I mean in ACOMAF is also kinda overprotective but it's great (okay, he isn't as overp. as Rowan and not as... territorial, but still^^) 'cause he lets his girl be who she wants to be and talks with her about all this stuff. And Rowan... he and Aelin are not presented as "She's my bitch and I fuck her, so deal with it and get your hands off her, even though you're her cousin!!". That's just... not it in my humblest opinion. Yeah, he IS a bit like that but Aelin constantly mocks him for it and basically tells him to knock that shit off and they agree upon that... at least that's how I see it. And sorry for babbling so much, I hope, you don't mind it xD
I agree with the trope you dislike, Beautiful Disaster and Fifty Shades of Grey were ones that ticked me off with this, especially when the female protagonist tries to prove she's independent and strong only to make excuses for these men in their lives and why they act like they do and do what they say when it is clearly a terrible relationship. The fact we romanticize it is terrible!
yess, love unpopular opinions! Definitely agree with you on n.3 but would change the order of answers 1 and 2 😄😉 my most unpopular opinions from last year were Carry On and the Martian, I really didn't get what everyone was talking about and loving about them 😅😅
That took me a second to put together 😂 I haven't read the Martian and I really loved Carry On, but I can totally see why you wouldn't. It's SUPER meta lollll
I totally agree with John green, but for me looking for Alaska was the only exception! You should try that one, I wasn't disappointed it really pulled at my heart strings
You should read the Mercy Thompson series. It's awesome! Anytime one of the male love interests acts overly territorial, Mercy never lets them get away with it. She might agree at the time, but then she'll just do what she wants.
8:35 Actually, they're trying to sell more copies by introducing all those "strong female characters" that have male traits (they're basically men with boobs) and making the male characters look stupid ,so that the heroine can look better.
My favourite Clare's character will always be will herondale. I thought jace was my favourite but I liked Simon more in TMI and when I read TID I fell head over heels for will herondale. PS. I might not read TID again because of the epilogue
A sci-fi book i really recommend is Aniara by Harry Martinsson, it's about a group of humans that has to leave earth but their spacecraft is hit by an asteroid and they lose the control to steer and are left to drift aimlessly in space. The rest of the story is about the passengers when they realise that they are lost and no help will come.It's really really good
I HIGHLY recommend Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy if you want to read a sci-fi novel. It's an older one, but it's wonderfully witty and amazing and I love it
The Long Way to a Small Angry by Becky Chambers is a wonderful Sci-fi book that isn't super long and is a character-focused book (so don't go in expecting harrowing spaceship fights) I think, based on some of the books you like, that you'd really enjoy it!
i WAS HURT WHEN YOU SAID YOU DIDNT LIKE JULIAN OH MY GOD I WAS JUST LIKE SAYING "why why why" THE WHOLE VIDEO YOU WERE SAYING THAT YOU DIDNT LIKE HIM. BUT HEY HE'S MY HUSBAND SO ITS ALRIGHT ANYWAYS. I LOVE HIM AND YOU DON'T. THAT'S YOUR OPINION OF JULIAN AND ATLEAST YOU ARE TOO 💖 KEEP ON SLAYIN' GIRL!
A book everyone loves but I am not a fan of.... The Throne of Glass series I read the first 2 books and dragged myself through them. I also did not like Me Before You. It was a 2.5 star read for me. I respect your opinions and enjoyed the video a lot :)
The first truly SciFi book I read was Ender's Game in middle school. I didn't 100% understand it until I reread it in highschool and again in college, but even since the first reading I loved it. HOWEVER, there's another book by the same author called Ender's Shadow that recounts most of the story from the perspective of another character dubbed Bean. It is PHENOMENAL. I honestly love it just as much as Ender's Game. It's the same story, but a completely different point of view, motivation, and consequence than the first book had. The writing is familiar, but fresh at the same time and I 100% recommend it to everybody who loves SciFi, or even wants to get into it for the first time.
When you think about it, most of the territorial men in fiction were written by women. *glares at Twilight and Fifty Shades* *shrugs*
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For Sci-fi I would recommend The Lunar Chronicles! It's a pretty "light" Sci-fi but it's very good!
Cornelia S Yes! TLC was my introduction to sci-fi and I'm in love with it!
I'm late, but it's one of my favorite book series ever! It's sooooo good ❤️
"When you're creating your own fantasy world, why would you further perpetuate this negative, harmful stereotype of masculinity- that men have to be protective over women, or that they have to have some sort of ownership over women?" 👏👏👏👏 Aaaaand this is the reason I can't bring myself to read anything written by Sarah J. Maas. And frankly you SHOULD make a video just on this topic, that would be fantastic!
Shakespeare and Such This is strange to me. I've always love Sarah J Maas's books because she's so pro-feminist and her characters are as well. All the Females are super strong and most of the men (except for Tamlin but he's a tool and he's the only one) Are super feminist. Rowan and Rhysand. (I don't want to spoil anyone for ACOMAF). But I know she says how we shouldn't excuse it because they are Fae males. But It explains the history behind it and in every relationship she's created That I've read the guys lighten up. They know that the way they act isn't right and that their significant other handles themselves. There are a ton of situations I've read in her books that explain this. So I'm just wondering how far/how many books of here's you've read? Because if you've only read ACOTAR than I would highly recommend reading ACOMAF because it explains this very well.
From what I understand ACOTAR does get better when you read the second book, I just hate having to slog through one book that annoys me to get to a really great one, if that makes sense? It's not any hate against her as an author, it's just not my cup of tea.
Oh well I think it's totally worth it to get to the second one. It's one of my favorite books of all time! At least ACOTAR is a quick read so if you do you won't have to go through it for long. :)
Shakespeare and Such I totally agree with this sentiment but ACOTAR would probably surprise you--the first book seems like it's going to go in the direction you state but it all gets flipped around in ACOMAF :)
You know, people always seem to say that ACOMAF is all feminist and everything, but Rhys is just as over protective and territorial than all the other love interests...idk, it bothers me so much that no one seems to see it
I totally agree with you on Rowan and Aelin!!!!! ugh I have always felt like it was forced and like there's no actual depth to their relationship, all the rest of the characters have such perfectly developed relationships so I don't know why theirs is the worst!!!
I feel that way about so many relationships (in books, movies, and tv) where the main relationship you're supposed to be invested in is BY FAR the most boring/problematic/worst one
HollyByGollyBooks finally someone who does not like Rowan and Aelin
This sounds weird but can I just say I am so relieved that you didn't put a disclaimer in this video. There's no reason for you to apologize for your opinions, it's your channel and we all saw the title, lol. And also yes to your answer on the least favorite trope!!! I am totally here for you making a video going in more depth about that, too. and i agree with you on Colleen Hoover... i read 3 of her books and hated 2/3 of them. i dont understand the hype either
YES on the disclaimer comment! I don't like that either.
Aria which ones did you read & which one was okay?
When I read November 9 I LOVED IT, but everyone said it was extremely problematic (I see that now). But when I read Ugly Love, it was such a toxic relationship yet nobody talks about it. I want to get into her other books but I'm hesitant as to which ones perpetuate harmful topics now
Kelsey Partridge I read Ugly Love, Too Late, and her latest release It Ends With Us. I agree with you on Ugly Love, I found the relationship in that book to be really toxic and the main character totally lacked agency when it came to the love interest. Too Late was a little better but it was a mess in my opinion and had a lot of dark and sensitive themes that weren't portrayed well, instalove, and the epilogues (there were two, didn't get the point of that) were totally cringy ruined the whole story for me. It Ends With Us is the only book of hers I enjoyed, it deals with abuse and toxic relationships, which is kind of ironic, considering that seems to be a theme that is romanticized often in her other books.
Aria haha that's ironic! And I was actually really hoping you'd say It Ends with Us was good bc I got it for Xmas, but didn't know if I'd read it after the others. Thanks!
i'd recommend you read Slammed ! its very good! i hate this genre but slammed really got me into hoover's books .. dont like them all but the best one is slammed series for me !
Omg Rowan and Aelin are the most forced ship EVER. Also, if you want a good sci-fi series, I would recommend The Lunar Chronichles. I never read sci-fi (I don't even like it) but these books blew me away.
I would definitely recommend The 5th wave or The Lunar chronicles as sci fi books :)
yesss The 5th Wave is defiantly one of my favorite books!
The Lunar Chronicles are amazing!
sakurahan91 I'm yet to read them, but I definitely want to!!
+books before looks Your life isn't complete until you experience the utter amazingness that is The Lunar Chronicles. ..
Ooh yes, I recommend them too. Though I really hated the last 5th Wave book. And not for the obvious reason.
Well my unpopular opinion is that I really don't like Clary fairchild and I really dont like Jace but I like the series
I 100% agree with you
yes finally :) someone who agrees w/ me
Yumn Zubeidat omg finally i can't stand then idek why it's just that they're so idk 😂😂.
but i love Julian 💁
Same i also really don't like Simon
Finally someone! Honestly I just can't stand Clary. She was so annoying to me that I almost throw Lady Midnight on wall when I saw her name on page. Ugh
I agree with you on the book trope about the territorial male characters. And also even though I still really like Sarah J Maas's books I think that she has some issues that she could improve on. Also what's so weird to me is that even though she pushes a lot of feminist ideas in her books she still romanticizes these male possessive characters.
I've just started reading Throne of Glass, and so far I'd have to agree. I also don't feel like I can connect with the main character, Celaena, at all.
If you want a cool YA trilogy without the focus being the romance arc I recommend the Chemical Garden Trilogy (the first book is called Wither). It has a LITERAL love triangle where the protagonist is kidnapped and forced to be a sister wife with two other women, but the romance angle is never pushed with her husband. She starts falling for a servant who is also falling for her, but he is practically an afterthought in the books. Her main goal is escape and finding her brother, and none of the guys (even the forced husband) ever push themselves on her. It is a HUGE expectation subversion when it comes to male/female dynamics. I hope I'm not hyping you up just to let you down with the series, but I honestly recommend it so hard!
I understand your opinion on the whole overprotective alpha male/territorial alpha males in books especially YA Fantasy. It's definitely become a popular trend for authors to use in their books. I usually read about these types of characters in the New Adult and Romance genre. As a reader who loves romance, I personally love the alpha male characters. But I do think is overused and can sometimes come off as abusive and controlling, which isn't attractive. I think putting a controlling male character in a YA books can easily give younger readers the wrong perception that it's okay for a guy to be overprotective and jealous if the girl even looks at another guy. So while I enjoy it in to romance books when not overdone, I don't feel like it should be used in the YA genre.
As far as a series everyone seems to love that I didn't, it had to be Throne of Glass for me. I just didn't buy Celaena as a badass assassin. I mean, we are TOLD over and over again that she's this cut-throat killer, but all we ever see her doing is eating cake and obsessing over what she is wearing. I also didn't like that the 'competition' to find the best baddie mostly happened off-page and what we do see is pretty lame...I mean really...an obstacle course? Anyway, I know I am very much in the minority on this one...oh well.
Desiree McLaughlin That annoyed me too but my guess is that we were told it over and over and over by the narration to echo her thoughts and the fact she needed to believe it even if it wasn't 100% the truth.
Emma - Eh...that may be, but it doesn't work for me. It's lazy storytelling.
Desiree McLaughlin This is exactly what I thought! I only read the first book, but at this point I'm not sure if it's worth continuing...
RKTFTW27 So many people are obsessed with this series, so maybe it gets better. But I have WAY too many unread books on my shelves (seriously...it's a sickness) that I'm actually excited about reading. I also started trying to read her other series awhile and didn't like that either. I just don't think SJM is for me. Oh well ☺
yes!!!! They say she is an assassin and she's actually supposed to be the best one, that's what they say. But she does so many stupid stuffs, the battle scenes are so bad written. Assassins are supposed to be smart cold blooded murders who work in the shadows and make strategies about what they are going to do. She's like aah I have a fight tomorrow, but I'm the best so I'm just going to try on a lot of dresses eat cake and do a lot of stupid things. I love the idea of a badass female assassin and that's why I read it but it was so disappointing.
VERY Unpopular Opinions:
• I like Rowan x Aelin
• I Stan Throne of Glass
• Rowan does not take ownership over Aelin
Umm... Did you NOT read Empire of Storms??
YESSIR 🙌
I feel like what may have happened was Sarah J Maas and this may be kind of spoilly you've been warned! I feel like she was going to have Chaol be endgame but then Rowan this hot old gray haired fae animal popped into her head and as she was writing the third book she decided right in the middle of the third book right after she created such a beautiful friendship she decided "You know what change of plans I like Rowan much better then Chaol maybe Rowan and Aelin should actually be together!" "You know what yes yes they should in fact I'm going to make them mates so no one can question their relationship and say they shouldn't be a thing!" Even though in book five they say if mates can't physically hurt each other yet Rowan and Aelin have hit each other so many times! :l
It said that mates who are aware of the bond cannot harm each other and in HoF neither of them knew that they were mates. In addition to sarah j mass said that chaol is her favorite character hence she wrote a full book about him AKA ToD.
I don't mean to attack you or anything. This is your opinion. You do you and I do me. I was just clarifying.
Omg i finally found someone who doesn't like Aelin and Rowan together! I thought i was the only one!
I hate them too never liked Rowan when he was introduced in Heir of Fire.
I don't like them either! I wanted them to stay just friends because Aelin already had so many love interests but nope.
Charon Lloyd-Roberts Same for me!
Taris Breau Yea i was hoping that would be the direction with their relationship but after the 'claiming' scene in HoF i knew how it would end 😩
Iga Jankowska Ugh I know 😑
You should absolutely do another video about tropes you have, I think it would be amazing. I completely agree with the possessive, territorial guy trope, it is problematic on so many levels. And a book that everyone loves that I don't really care for is The Book Thief, because while the writing was beautiful and I think it's an important read, I just didn't love it as much as everyone else seems to.
The Cinder Chronicles is an amazing series for anyone who enjoys fantasy, sci- fi, or a new take on old stories!
I CANT STAND ROWAELIN AT ALL. im still mad that Celorian never happened.
Me too!!! I loved Celaena and Dorian together >:(
Josh BookDragon me too since the beginning!
Yeah they were cut but they’re good as best friends! And also I’m really shipping Manon and Dorian. It’s just my opinion tho
Sameee
OH MY GOD SOMEONE GETS IT! Dorian is just a far nicer guy to root for, and out of all her love interests, I choose him
Totally agree with you about Rowan and Aelin!!! I despise their relationship I don't think they suit each other at all. I miss Chaol
emma k chaol gives me life.
I actually get so happy whenever I find someone who also doesn't like Julian because SO MANY PEOPLE LOVE HIM SO MUCH and I just honestly can't relate.
Omg I have the territorial male trope SO much but especially in fantasy like you say, why perpetuate harmful behaviour when you can completely create your own norms? I love this tag so much and agree with so many of your answers! I also have 0 interest in Coleen Hoover
For science fiction recommendations I highly highly recommend Ready Player One. I love it because of all the 80s references, the treasure hunt aspect and the awesome world building
AndreaMGC YES I TOTALLY AGREE, Ready Player One is my most favorite book this year!!
I finished reading it 2 days ago and absolutely loved it as well!!
Stella Wenny Kimberly - The Blonde & The Book - Right!? Like... can the Oasis just be thing now? Cause I want it.
Yes! I loved this book, and it's one of those that I still randomly think about!
AndreaMGC my brother recommended it to me but idk is it any good?
About the book trope: Tamlin. Ughh hate him.
TAMLIN IS THE WORST!
Even before reading the sequel, the best I could ever do was tolerate Tamlin. When reading the first parts of the second book, I was slamming my head against the desk to get through spring court scenes and immediately perked up when night court scenes started up again
YES TAMILN SUCKS
Oml I hated him so damn much
I don.t like Rowan and Aelin too. They are sooooo ...nothing. Manon is life
I never read sci-fi and the only book that I read "accidently" without knowing anything about it is Divergent and I finished the three books in about a week! I couldn't put it down and I just LOVE them ( regardless of that part from Allegiant that we don't talk about)
Also you should defend do a whole video on the over protective male top
tropes*
definitely* OMG
jennysbook DEAD 😂
Rowan and Aelin YESSSSS! I'm going to watch your booktalks right now because I feel the exact same way! And it's so strange to find someone who doesn't die-hard ship them :P Great vid!
I love how you bash on the insecure/over-protective male bullshit. It's something that I seriously hate as well (in real-life and novels)
Continue to spread the word ~
When you said Rowan and Aelin are your absolute NOTP I've never clicked like more fast hehe! Totally agree with what you said there!
I agreed with much of what you said except for one thing. Well maybe two. I didn't mind Julian's character but i do wanna see more of him in the next book. However I disagree with you about Aelin and Rowan. I loooooooooove those two together soooo much. I just....to me, it was the fact that in Heir of Fire, Aelin is at her lowest point, Rowan is there and sees all the ugliness and shame she tried to hide, but didn't turn away. He accepted everything about her, which was so beautiful. He lets her make the decisions. I love them but it's cool if you're not that much of a fan.
Question. Have you read A Court of Thorns and Roses? Any thoughts on those?
Woa Julian is my 2nd fave all time character by Cassandra, just losing for Jem. I'll check out your video about Lady Midnight cause I'm genuinely curious about your reasons to dislike him.
Beatriz Zacharias you like Julian more then Ty
Amen to Aelin and Rowan's insufferable relationship and the annoying territorial trope.
I love the throne of glass series but I have so many problems with the writing at the same time.
I completely agree with your opinion about Rowan and Aelin. Rowan, I basically just hated as a character but Aelin I actually liked in the first 3 books as Celaena. Her personality completely changed and it took me a VERY long time to finish QoS. In addition, Choal's personality did as well, and I felt that SJM intentionally tried to make readers hate him. He was the most complex character and essentially just threw him to the side to make way for Rowan and Aelin. I still wish that Chaolena happened.
Dune by Frank Herbert for sci-fi. Its world-building is so detailed, from geological, to political, to religious. It is considered a masterpiece for a reason. I cannot recommend it enough.
lolol haha if you love dylan o brien do you watch Teen wolf??
red queen - everyone loves that book but i do NOT.
wow your opinions are super insightful and enlightening. I wouldn't even be able to convey what i want to say in the video its so hard haha
brandonthebookaddict lmaooo I'm teen wolf trash 😂😂😂
+A Clockwork Reader thank you for Saying how they don't go together
brandonthebookaddict Well I hate red queen as well
And you're teen wolf trash?? This gets better and better
k a m m y yeah exactly season 1 and 2 is okay but season 3 is when it's getting better so it's definitely the best.
Not sure if this book is already mentioned somewhere, but The Long Way To A Small Angry Planet by Becky Chambers is a really good sci-fi where the focus is more on the characters and social/cultural aspects rather than being it hard, really tech-focused sci-fi. Also, it's amazing.
You are absolutely fantastic! This video should be the introduction to the Booktube sphere, honestly. You don't shame any of those books but you do explain things that happen in a lot of popular YA series that should not be okay and that young people should be aware of before getting into them. They are all amazing escape places but we still have to mention what they do wrong as much as the reasons why we love them and talk about them so much.
Great work!
It’s funny that with the question about the author she answers John green and that turtles all the way down is now her favourite book
The colonialism and imperialistic view of Throne of Glass was pretty awful and made me HATE AELIN
I would definitely recommend The Long Way to a Small Angry Planet as a sci-fi book.
I totally agree with you on a ton of these! However, I do really like John Green but that's probably because his writing resonates with me more than it does with you (which is okay! everyone has their own feelings).
I just started watching your videos and I know this is an old video, but I really appreciate everything you said in this video. It takes a lot of courage to express unpopular opinions--especially when it's something really popular. I haven't picked up a book by Cassandra Clare's since late high school which was five years ago. I think I might read some of her books in the future after cutting down on the list of books that I want to finish. I know her writing has grown since then, and I'm willing to give her books another try.
With me, it's not that I don't like Aelin amd Rowan, I like them, but not as a couple....I just don't ship them...
I mean, I absolutely adored their 'friendship' in Heir of Fire but then it developed into something else and it developed way too fast and I just feel like it's costantly shoved down my throat...But that doesn't stop me from enjoying the book...I don't absolutely detest them as you do...and I actually love some of the characters in the series...Manon is by far my favourite. I just see eye to eye with her and we have the same way of thinking and she does all the things I wish I could do...Yeah, Manon is my spirit animal...
"an overload of insufferable" i am laughing so hard that is so true. I literally only stick around for Dorian at this point.
I totally agree with what you said about Julian. He just seemed to be losing it a little bit in Lady Midnight and that's not a great sign. I'm thinking Cassandra Clare will use it as plot points in the coming books so hopefully he will have a chance to grow.
I really appreciate your honesty as always. I've been trying lots of books because of booktube and I have many unpopular opinions. Some series I did not like at all were: Winner's Curse, Raven Boys, A Gathering of Shadows and Six of Crows
Julian has flaws but his loyalty and dedication to his family is amazing. He pretty much raised his siblings and ran an institute while he was barely in his teens years. Not liking him becuase he can be "annoying" is honestly so idiotic and totally erases and of his character.
I love your videos, you always have a lot of great opinions, especially on over-used tropes - I share so many of your thoughts on that! Do you think you'd like to make a video of, like: how to write a likeable female protagonist? Or what your ideal female protagonist would be/act like? Would love your thoughts!
Great video!
I love this tag. It always bring so many interesting and different opinions.
For me it's Shatter Me and Across the universe series. I have a lot of problems with both of them.
I also probably won't finish the Mortal instruments series. I've read the 5 books, yeah, but I was so mad after finishing the 5th one that I nearly threw it out of the window. Clary is one of the characters that I almost hate. So I don't want to struggle because of her any longer.
Oh, and Throne of Glass... I've only read the 1st book and hearing where it went now, I'm glad I haven't continued.
oh, I can rant a lot.
I'll stop for now.
Thanks for this video!:)
For Sci-Fi I recommend The Long Way to A Small Angry Planet. Especially if you're looking for a feel-good book, the characters and relationships are so heart-warming it makes me smile just thinking about them.
I completely agree with you on The Maze Runner series! The movies are sooo good, but I could barely get through the first book. Even the most suspenseful parts didn't make me feel any sort of excitement.
I just came here from watching your first unpopular opinions tag, and I disagree that you were awkward or that the video was awful in any way - you are simply delightful!
Awww Hannah, your videos make me so HAPPY!! I haven't even watched this next but I'm pretty sure I agree with everything you've said☺☺
writingthewrong ahhh thank you!! You're the sweetest 😊🙈💖
Just wanted to say thank you for all the videos you've made! I stumbled upon your channel a year ago and have been enjoying your videos ever since. Even though I love reading I don't really watch booktubers, but we share a lot of opinions and your voice is very pleasant to listen to (I'm sorry if that sounds weird haha). I think that you've grown a lot as a creator over the past year,
Lorerania (Not weird at all 😄)
Thank you so much for saying that, it means so much to me. And thank YOU for sticking around for so long ❤️❤️❤️
throne of glass was the reason I loved fantasy books,,, I love it,,,
but I really really understand who don't love this series,,, me myself really don't like some of the things in it,,, but what I love in it that I cannot find in other books is the plot,,, the plot in Sarah's books is so nice, she doesn't write anything without having an answer or story to it later,,,
I'd love to see another Book Tropes video! I haven't read much fantasy this year but that trope seems very annoying. I guess my answer to #1 for a recentish read would be We Were Liars. I just didn't get the hype and kind of hated all the characters, didn't like the writing or the plot really.
I like how refreshing you are. Yes! I agree with the trope, it is so annoying
Great video! I totally agree about territorial male trope - why do authors even think that is a good idea? It is not part of a healthy relationship! In terms of science fiction I highly recommend the Old Mans War series by John Scalzi, as well as Fuzzy Nation also by John Scalzi. I also highly recommend Dune by Frank Herbert and The Hunted Assassin by Paul B Kohler. Hope you are having a great day!
To be honest I really liked Rowan and Aelin in Queen of Shadows (even though I was still rooting for Chaol), but in Empire of Storms I ended up really disliking their relationship. Really interesting to hear that you don't like Julian, because that's not something I've really heard before!
Yesss! XD Aelin is so insufferable. I wanted to puke during the certain scenes between Rowan and Aelin. You know what I'm talking 'bout. Ick. I get that we're not supposed to love every main female character, at least that's what I convinced myself when I read TOG, but Aelin never gets better imo. She is just a complete a-hole to the bone and the world bends around her to make everyone fall in love with her and give her a position as being the most powerful and beautiful person that has ever set foot on earth. I don't care how many times people shove the 'strong female' line down my throat, she's at Kanye West's level of meglomania. I just want her to get killed off in the last book but I have a feeling she'll probably end up as the ultimate perfect, most powerful goddess of the universe or something. At this point I'm just reading for laughs, and because I stupidly bought all of the books before reading because the first three were on sale.
1. Pretty sure Julian is meant to be scary, so I'm okay with that.
2. Highly recommend Chaos Walking by Patrick Ness as a good sci-fi series.
3. Can I get what you said about territorial males printed on a t-shirt? Because I am so fucking done with the stupid trope.
Karkat Vantas Chaos Walking is one of the most shocking and life changing books I've ever read. I can't do anything but recommend it.
For science fiction I recommend Clockwork Heart by Dru Pagliossotti. Admitedly I'm still in the middle of this book, so I can't speak to its quality as a whole. However, I'm putting it here because I've already fallen in love with the characters, the plot, and the world-building. It's in the Steampunk subgenre but it's definitely more sci-fi than it is historical fiction or fantasy.
I definitely agree with your comment on Rowan/Aelin, especially in Empire of Storms. I liked them in Queen of Shadows but I felt like their individual character and relationship was completely off in EoS. I miss the days when Nehemia was there to bring Celaena to her senses!
Also which ship you shipping ( in throne of glass) I'm Dorian and celena
I ship Celena and death. ;)
Mee Mee I love that omg
hahaha !!!! XD I know the feeling
I ship Chaol x Dorian and Celaena x Misery or Death. I hate her.
people pleeeeease stop calling her celaena. AELIN. Please. My god. This book is my life. Iss my pet peeve when you people cant even get the female lead's name right.
No offence meant, this is an honest question, but why do you read the Throne of Glass series if you don't like the characters?
Because I loved the characters in the first two books and I used to love the series, so I feel obligated to finish reading it
Zoe Lala I didn't like the fourth Mortal Instruments book like at all. I thought it wasn't necessary, but then I grew to like the characters they introduced and I moved through the series and I loved it all in the end
I am literally thankful you pulled out fault in our stars!
I agree with the relationship trope. I also hate when, in the same type of relationship that was spoken about, when the male is super dark and brooding and emotionally "damaged" and the female is the exact opposite, and swept off her feet by the male, even when he can be a jerk. Also that she can somehow "change" him into someone better, or when the relationship goes too fast. It feel impractical, demeaning, and overall ridiculous.
I'm with you on Rowan and Aelin, John Green and the territorial male trope. Also, I would love to see another video on disliked/overused tropes!
I'm new to your channel and I must say I enjoy your honesty. I also enjoy how you read so many different genres of books.
I literally started going "YES YES YES! EXACTLY!" and flailing around on my bed when you started talking about the perpetuated harmful stereotypes used in fantasy. That is the reason I could never watch or read Game of Thrones.
People always excuse it with "it's like real life!" but honestly, this is fantasy, WHY do you have to make it like real life? The world you're writing is your oyster, you can do anything in it. I will never understand why writers have to continue so many ugly tropes. They should be making new ones, less harmful and better ones.
I nodded my head so much when you talked about Rowan and Aelin and the territorial bf trope it physically hurt.
I don't agree with all of these but it's nice to see how you give reasons for your opinions.
I've never seen anyone talk about the Gone series by Michael Grant anywhere. I started reading it years ago and reread/finished it last year (which is why I stuck to reading it in Norwegian. My friend said the Norwegian version had a ton of typos, but I didn't even notice.). I loved it so much. I felt like the concept was so fascinating, original and terrifying in a way. I will say I do think it gets better as it goes on, but I loved the characters from book one, I loved the diversity of characters, and I was blown away by how disturbing and terrible everything got as the series progressed. I really wished more people talked about it, but apparently it's bad or just really unpopular. What a shame ):
I have literally just discovered you and I am so glad someone else doesn't like Julian from LM. I finished reading LoS last night and was just thinking about it. It's so good to hear someone else has that unpopular opinion!
Hmm. I definitely see where you're coming from when you describe Julian as territorial cause while it didn't bother me as much as it for you, it was freaking ridiculous at times. I personally like him as a character cause he's different from all the other male protagonists we've had in previous books and he's intense in a scary way... Lol. He in general has a lot of potential.
These are my exact thoughts on both The Mortal Instruments/Shadowhunter Chronicles and CelaenaxRowan. I also read TMI in middle school, quickly became obsessed, and have continued to read all of CC's books eight years later. I realise now that they're not written well, are not at all creative, and are most likely plagiarised but despite all that, I still can't shake them. Every time I read the latest book it brings me right back to being thirteen and I feel nostalgic for weeks after. I'm almost embarrassed to still be reading books that I've accepted are pretty bad and trashy but they've been part of my life for so long now that I don't think I'll ever be able to stop loving them. As for Celaena and Rowan... no chemistry, no clues that they were going to be together before BAM they were, and no real reason to be together at all in my opinion. I thought the relationships in the first TOG were pretty natural but every single one in EOS felt painfully contrived and forced. It's like Sarah J Maas decided that no character of hers would be single for more than a month and then spun a wheel to see who'd end up with who.
Red Rising is amazing sci-fi! I love sci-fi too but barely read sci-fi books, but I read this book earlier this year and it was brilliant. I'm planning on finishing the series soon.
Yes I can't stand either of them either. I liked Rowan in Heir of Fire until he feel for Aelin and I hate her so I lost all respect for her. Yes for the tropes, I hate that one.
Lucifersdaughter Same, Rowan was way better as a friend for Aelin back in Heir of Fire
I can kind of see what you are saying about Julian but he did go through a lot of bad stuff and having to raise four kids as a twelve year old boy will take a toll on you. And he’s in love with a person that he shouldn’t be. But I do understand you’re opinion haha 🤣☺️
For your tropes portion, I completely agree. A Court of Thorns and Roses and the sequel have a very territorial male, but that sets the plot for the sequel into motion and it is recognized as bad news, so I can get on board with it in that case.
I was hoping to hear what your thoughts were on The Maze Runner And even though I love the series and the fandom has been a big part of my life I agree with your opinions all the way. Looking back James Dashner was extremely sporadic with his writing and the movies just explained the plot better. Plus the cast is 💯
When you said Rowan and Aelin I got so happy I screamed YESS!!! And scared the crap out of my BF I completely agree with you about literally everything you say about how the TOG has evolved. Yasss💕 love the video.
Lollll I hope you didn't scare him too badly 😂😂😂
I always get so happy when people tell me they agree with my opinions on TOG because it reminds me that I'm not alone 💗
A Clockwork Reader dw, you're not alone!
Yes to the trope video!!!
Totally agreed about the territorial fae! It seems like it's suppose to be this cute thing, but it's toxic. Kind of dims the main characters badass persona with the protectiveness.
(I read these after they were all out, so I read them in order)
Okay. I absolutely loved the first three TOG books (throne of glass, crown of midnight, and the assassins blade). Heir of fire was okay, queen of shadows was a hot mess, and empire of storms was so... infuriating. Like oh no, you better stop erwan, but don’t forget about Maeve, she’s a minor character that turns huge. Then the last book came out, and........what? There’s so many different views that no one knows what the heck is going on. Then the whole thing felt rushed and it was so confusing. Then absolutely no one died that we cared about, except a certain group of people who you’ll know if you read it. Then everyone else got out safe and all the couples were happy. Yay. The only people I liked were Nesryn and her boyfriend (I forgot his name). They are just happy together and neither of them are overly territorial. And they don’t freakin lie to each other all the time. And that’s the tea sis.
The Long Way to a Small Angry Planet is a great scifi read. Not too heavy but with a lot of heart, it's a a great jumping on point.
About the trope you mentioned, I think Tamlin in A Court of Thorns and Roses by Sarah J. Maas is a prime example. However, that trait is massively important to the second book, and Maas, in my opinion, does a really great job of addressing it.
I also think that this trope is... well. Kinda accurate and it CAN be great. For instance, I would very much like my boyfriend to be a bit jealous about some things I do (or don't but COULD to, if you get what I mean xD) to "see if he cares about me". And YES, I know, you shouldn't test someone you love and I'm pretty sure I can say I wouldn't do it because of that but sometimes... I just want to be held and told that he loves me and won't let me go. I am that simple xD
It can be portrayed REALLY bad (like Twilight.. I'm sorry, had to throw that in xD) but I actually like it in SJM's books. Well, I like her books but that's not the point! xD
I mean... let's be real. Character who's name I won't say but we know who I mean in ACOMAF is also kinda overprotective but it's great (okay, he isn't as overp. as Rowan and not as... territorial, but still^^) 'cause he lets his girl be who she wants to be and talks with her about all this stuff. And Rowan... he and Aelin are not presented as "She's my bitch and I fuck her, so deal with it and get your hands off her, even though you're her cousin!!". That's just... not it in my humblest opinion. Yeah, he IS a bit like that but Aelin constantly mocks him for it and basically tells him to knock that shit off and they agree upon that... at least that's how I see it. And sorry for babbling so much, I hope, you don't mind it xD
I agree with the trope you dislike, Beautiful Disaster and Fifty Shades of Grey were ones that ticked me off with this, especially when the female protagonist tries to prove she's independent and strong only to make excuses for these men in their lives and why they act like they do and do what they say when it is clearly a terrible relationship. The fact we romanticize it is terrible!
yess, love unpopular opinions! Definitely agree with you on n.3 but would change the order of answers 1 and 2 😄😉 my most unpopular opinions from last year were Carry On and the Martian, I really didn't get what everyone was talking about and loving about them 😅😅
That took me a second to put together 😂
I haven't read the Martian and I really loved Carry On, but I can totally see why you wouldn't. It's SUPER meta lollll
I totally feel you on the third and second to last points. Completely agree and are glad you brought these up.
I totally agree with John green, but for me looking for Alaska was the only exception! You should try that one, I wasn't disappointed it really pulled at my heart strings
You should read the Mercy Thompson series. It's awesome! Anytime one of the male love interests acts overly territorial, Mercy never lets them get away with it. She might agree at the time, but then she'll just do what she wants.
I HATE Rowaelin with all my heart I'm glad someone else agrees
8:35 Actually, they're trying to sell more copies by introducing all those "strong female characters" that have male traits (they're basically men with boobs) and making the male characters look stupid ,so that the heroine can look better.
My favourite Clare's character will always be will herondale. I thought jace was my favourite but I liked Simon more in TMI and when I read TID I fell head over heels for will herondale.
PS. I might not read TID again because of the epilogue
You can also read books from Independent writers. That'll mean alot to them. And can give use fresh picks of underrated or unpopular books.
A sci-fi book i really recommend is Aniara by Harry Martinsson, it's about a group of humans that has to leave earth but their spacecraft is hit by an asteroid and they lose the control to steer and are left to drift aimlessly in space. The rest of the story is about the passengers when they realise that they are lost and no help will come.It's really really good
I HIGHLY recommend Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy if you want to read a sci-fi novel. It's an older one, but it's wonderfully witty and amazing and I love it
You have to read Illuminae. You might not be hooked in the first few pages but then if you keep reading its gets AMAZING
The Long Way to a Small Angry by Becky Chambers is a wonderful Sci-fi book that isn't super long and is a character-focused book (so don't go in expecting harrowing spaceship fights) I think, based on some of the books you like, that you'd really enjoy it!
I also hate the aelin/rowan relationship. I shipped her with Dorian 😭😭😭
i WAS HURT WHEN YOU SAID YOU DIDNT LIKE JULIAN OH MY GOD I WAS JUST LIKE SAYING "why why why" THE WHOLE VIDEO YOU WERE SAYING THAT YOU DIDNT LIKE HIM. BUT HEY HE'S MY HUSBAND SO ITS ALRIGHT ANYWAYS. I LOVE HIM AND YOU DON'T. THAT'S YOUR OPINION OF JULIAN AND ATLEAST YOU ARE TOO 💖 KEEP ON SLAYIN' GIRL!
I like this comment so much. You're lovely.
A book everyone loves but I am not a fan of....
The Throne of Glass series
I read the first 2 books and dragged myself through them.
I also did not like Me Before You. It was a 2.5 star read for me.
I respect your opinions and enjoyed the video a lot :)
The first truly SciFi book I read was Ender's Game in middle school. I didn't 100% understand it until I reread it in highschool and again in college, but even since the first reading I loved it. HOWEVER, there's another book by the same author called Ender's Shadow that recounts most of the story from the perspective of another character dubbed Bean. It is PHENOMENAL. I honestly love it just as much as Ender's Game. It's the same story, but a completely different point of view, motivation, and consequence than the first book had. The writing is familiar, but fresh at the same time and I 100% recommend it to everybody who loves SciFi, or even wants to get into it for the first time.