Excavating Sodom & Gomorrah (with Joel Kramer)
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- The Bible describes burning sulfur raining down from the sky which destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah (Gen 19:24). Is there any evidence that matches the Bible’s description of what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah? Many people dispute the site of Sodom and Gomorrah. However, Joel Kramer shows archaeological evidence of how the Bible's account certainly could have happened. You will be impressed at how the Sulfur Balls still burn after 4000 years!
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The key too life is too love your neighbor as yourself. But above all to love the Lord with all your heart and soul.
But you lost it eh titch?
Fascinating. Sodom and Gomorrah is one of the bible's best examples of narcissism and it's just rewards. How Amazing God's Grace, that we could receive mercy, in place of justice.
It's a wonderfully funny story, by it's only a story, "just rewards" according to whose idea of just?*Of_course* its a myth.
The evidence found exactly fits the biblical story of Sodom.
How incredibly heart breaking. All of the men, women who were of an age of accountability when this destruction occurred have been in torment.
I am so thankful for all the men and women who are working in Christs church and in all the missionaries around the entire world.
Sean, awesome work! I spent some time with your dad one day while I was doing media relations for Promise Keepers events in the early 2000s, and I helped him get to various reporter interviews. But I never forgot one of his awesome statements from the stage: “Rules without relationship leads to rebellion.“ I thought of that often and even quoted it to people over the last 20 years as I raised my three kids in the Lord. Now it’s exciting to see you shining the McDowell ministry torch brightly to another generation, the digital generation. Exciting!
Thanks Steve! I love that line.
@@SeanMcDowell por favor ponga sus videos con subtítulos en español, llegaría a mucha gente Latinoaméricana q buscamos estos materiales y solo están en Inglés, sería muy bueno si le pone subtítulos en español, muchas gracias
YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO ALL THE BIBLICAL FINDING THAT RON WYATT FOUND. PLEASE LISTEN TO THE ARK FILES. IT WAS RON WYATT THAT FOUND SODOM AND GAMORAH. HE ALSO FOUND NOAH'S ARK. MOUNT SINAI WHERE GOD CAME DOWN WHICH IS I SAUDI ARABIA. HE ALSO FOUND THE ARK OF THE COVENANT. HE FOUND ALL THESE BIBLICAL FINDING BUT WERE NOT SPOKEN OFF BECAUSE OF HIS RELIGION. HE WAS A SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST
Thank you for having Joel on, he is always so interesting! Love it!
Absolutely fascinating and awesome conversation, so interesting! Thank you!
I just subscribed to Expedition Bible - can't wait to explore the videos! This was so interesting, thanks guys
Someone said, “Evidence will not give a person faith, but evidence will strengthen a person’s faith”. ❤️🙏🏻 Thank you for strengthening my faith. I think all of this is so interesting. God is amazing! I can’t believe I get to witness so much of the Bible coming to life before my eyes! Praise Jesus! Isn’t Lot’s wife still found as a pillar of salt even today. I always wondered how God did that to her? But He is God! And He can do anything!
I think it can anď will give non believers what they need, depending on the individual and their amount of pride and fear! Not all of them but, I believe that God preserved the evidence to win souls just before His return! Otherwise, why would He preserved them ya know!?
@davefrimml1518 I agree. God is slow to anger. He is giving time for everybody to choose him not Satan.
It depends on the person. I used to be an agnostic who became a Christian strictly because of evidence. Don't think that knowing evidence for Christianity is useless. You can convert some people just with evidence and with others evidence is helpful but it is not all that is needed.
Ron Wyatt found Sodom & Gomorrah. And there are sulpfur balls buried into the building relics at the southern end of that Dead Sea
Watch Ron Wyatt Discoveries video to see Sodom and Gomorrah and his other findings like the crossing of the Red Sea, Noah's Ark, that big rock that Moses hit with his staff and God made water come forth to water the Israelites. That rock is split in two. And showed erosion at its base from the large amount of water that flowed out of it. He also found the ark of the covenant and the crucifixion site of Jesus. The ark is under that site.
Great video, Sean. Also, it was great seeing you up at Hume Lake. My daughter, Carley, loved the short video you made for her.
Thanks Steve!
I wish there could be a conversation between Kramer and Dr. Collins.
Yes, I like Joel……but he’s wrong on the location.
It would be good to see a discussion between Joel Kramer and Steven Collins about the discovery of Sodom.
However people who disagree with Dr. Collin’s do NOT have the evidence……Biblical AND scientific mind you……that Collin’s has.
Dear @gjjk84
Excellent idea !! McDowell !!! Do you hear this ??
I was very surprised that Kramer would take this position on this issue. My respect fro Kramer has dropped .
I suspect Dr. Collins would eat Kramer's arguments whole !
Awesome 🤩
Just got Joel’s book. Great stuff with pics and illustrations. 🙏🏼✝️
What is his book called?
@@jamesmaybury7452
The title is, “Where God came down”
@@shipwright6122 thanks,
Not so available in UK, but I’ll see if I can get it.
I'm such a nerd 🤓 for these types of interviews. It makes me believe in the Bible even more ✝️ I did subscribe to his channel. Thank you for the interview!
Wait until we get to meet Him!
@@jason3775 amen to 🙌
For sure! It's so obvious I feel like the last couple years has revealed the results of God giving "them" over to a depraved (or reprobate) mind. Society's ultimate division. 🙏 God bless
Are you a blood Jew or a religious Jew?
We collected pieces of tephra (lava cooled while airborne) from a location on the SE side of the Dead Sea near Bab edh-Dhra, right off hwy 50. I have a piece sitting on my desk.
Our prof pointed out the remains of an ancient gate and spoke of tombs that had been burned from the top-down. (Top-down destruction of tombs is abnormal. While raiders will burn a city, they will plunder any valuables from a tomb and won't bother burning graves)
Good stuff!
That must be quite the souvenir
Wrong location. The bible tells exactly where Sodom is located and it isn't at the South end of the Dead Sea. Genesis 13.18-13 clearly state that Sodom is East of Bethel and Ai. Lot left from Bethel and Ai to Sodom. He surely didn't go south to the Dead Sea.
Ask any Israeli where the Jordan river ends and they will all tell you that the Jordan ends when it enters the Dead Sea. Sodom may have fought a war south of the Jordan but Sodom is East of Bethel and Ai.
See my notes above.
@@nahshon9998 the Lord declared in Ezekiel 16:46 that Sodom is Southern of Jerusalem
@@phamnguyet8737 My study Bible says nothing about Sodom's location in Ez. 16.46.
@@nahshon9998Mine says: "Your elder sister is Samaria, who dwells with her daughters to the north of you; and your younger sister who dwells to the south of you is Sodom and her daughters." - Ezekiel 16:46 (NKJV)
And those verses are speaking to Jerusalem.
Sounds like a location to me. What does your study Bible say for that verse if it doesn't say that?
Thank you for your work both of you
I've been to Bab edh-Dhra and it was fascinating (back in the 80's). Part of my archeological work as a grad student at Vanguard - 2 seasons at Tel Dor in Israel and then lots of middle east travel - Jordan, Egypt, Israel. Thanks for this amazing presentation, I would like to use in my CWV class if that's ok.
Interesting stuff and very edifying
Sean, I love that you also interviewed Dr Steven Collins concerning discovery of Sodom at Tall el-Hammam. That video description links to this video as an alternative. How about a link here to the Collins interview as an alternative?
I love Joel’s videos showing biblical archaeological sites(holy sepulcher, David’s tomb, Gezer standing stones). I believe he misses on this one.
@Sr. Sean McDowell your interview questioning technique is amazing. I appreciate how you prepare in advance and help lead us through a quantity of information. The fact you respond in context to the interviewees comments and content is refreshing as well. God Bless and thank you.
Yeah, I like the way that he gives full attention and time to allow a guest to explain the views, without an antagonistic debate. Unfortunately, we don't a full examination of the debate, but it does help a little.
AMAZING, AMAZING, AMAZING. Great Video.
👊👊👊
Awesome. I love this stuff
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Love him or hate him, Ron Wyatt deserves a bit of credit on this subject.
He does, but these guys are talking about a different area from the place Rob found.
The real area has nothing growing like these guys speak of. The whole area is just dead.
Why on earth would Wyatt deserve any credit ??
@@Silverheart1956 Because he was the first to popularize these sites and the sulphur balls around there as Sodom and Gomorrah.
@@Xenosaurian , Hello !
Well, that site (the area off the south western coast of the Dead Sea) has a tradition of speculation of the presence of Sodom.
That is why you will find a geological structure around that location called "Lot's Wife" and another called "Mount Sodom". These sites have been known long before Ron Wyatt was born. They also have been rejected as a plausible site for the location of Sodom long before Wyatt was born. Wyatt was pulled in by the traditional hype.
The area has been subject to archaeological survey by professionals (before Wyatt's birth) and nothing was found relating to the actual city of Sodom. The area is considered archaeologically insignificant in relation to the idea that it was the location of Sodom and that is why no one has any interest in conducting any excavations in the area. Excavations are expensive - why would anyone want to spend that kind of money when nothing was found in the archaeological survey.
Wyatt found Sulfur balls in the area. These sulfur balls are a naturally occurring geological phenomenon resulting from the many sulfur springs in the area. The area is a major fault system called the "Dead Sea Transform" where the African Plate and the Arabian Plate are pulling apart. This is why the Dead Sea is so far below Sea Level. That also explains why sulfur and seismic activity is plentiful in the area.
Wyatt did not consult any professional geologists to help him with his understanding of the area. I suppose he thought his training as a nurse qualified him to make these geological interpretations (LOL). Real archaeologists use specialists and consultants.
NOTE: the area (Bab Edh-Dhra) being spoken of in the video, where some sulfur balls are found, is located across the Dead Sea from where Wyatt's Sodom is at. There are sulfur balls on each side of the Dead Sea. This just proves that sulfur balls are present all around the Dead Sea. There are sulfur springs on both sides of the Dead Sea because of the geological activity in the area of the Dead Sea.!
Wyatt also saw geological structures that lead his imagination to interpret them as ruins of buildings. He was quick to jump to the unmerited conclusion that these structures were man made buildings of Sodom. Geologists have completely dismissed this idea. These same kinds of geological structures are found all around the Dead Sea - we know the buildings of Sodom did not surround the Dead Sea !
If Wyatt and/or associates wanted to provide any real evidence for such assertions, then it is NECESSARY to conduct excavations and if there are any human structures there, there WILL BE EVIDENCE ! Until evidence is found, there is no reason to believe Wyatt found anything other than a vivid imagination. Only gullible, naive people will believe Wyatt's imagination, of Wyatt's Sodom, without any real tangible verifiable evidence, other than Wyatt's imaginations and descriptions of his mind.
A major consideration that that students of the Scriptures will be aware of is that The Scriptures provide us with the general location of Sodom and the cities of the plain (Kikkar), and Wyatt's Sodom does NOT fit the description of the location given in the Scriptures. Wyatt and his followers area generally not people who study the Scriptures deeply and in a scholarly manner. This is clear in Wyatt's many Scriptural blunders. He likes to chose and use certain Scriptures that support his ideas at the exclusion of of the significant point of Scripture, and his followers are never the wiser.
Bottom line. - Wyatt should have used the Scriptures to find Sodom, not his imagination - But Wyatt ignored what the Scriptures said about the issue.
Be Well, DZ
@@Silverheart1956 Be careful tearing other people down. If you are supporting the Lord's plan for your life, then you should never tear down other people.
Great video! So interesting!
I'm so glad you enjoyed it!
What about Ron Wyatt I saw a whole video where he was traveling through and they found a lot of them a lot of those sulfur balls and they found a lot of a lot of symmetrical shapes that look like they could have been buildings made out of mud that had been eroded you know so I'm like I saw this a long time ago on one of his videos
Ron Wyatt doesn't necessarily have the best reputation. I've seen some of his videos where he declared certain information that hasn't debunked. Ron Wyatt was an anesthesiological nurse not an archaeologist.
@@francinec2941 so what
@@francinec2941That didn't stop him from finding Noah's Ark.
Dear @davidnajor7536
That is Wyatt's Imagination at work !
If he or someone who has the credentials to get a permit, wanted to provide some evidence fro these claims then it is NECESSARY to excavate in order to have proof that there are buildings. An excavation would provide evidence, IF there is any thing there.
No one has been willing to excavate the area because there is no reason to believe anything is there and no one is wiling to fund and excavation that has such poor potential for any success in finding anything.
Besides that is NOT the area that the Scriptures say Sodom and the cities of the kikkar are located. Wyatt used his imagination and ignored using the Scriptures.
@@francinec2941 Ron Wyatt only has a bad reputation in the eyes of haters, and not true supporters of the Lord.
Jude1:7as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire
Yeah they also ignored the only true religion to the Father 📜💦 meanwhile pandemic orphans and widows 📈📈📉📉 still skyrocketing ..
@@skellingtonmeteoryballoon Yeah, the "vaccine" is wiping people out. Shame.
@@IISeverusll they're breakthrough cases, it does sound kinda better
I don’t even want to imagine what “strange flesh” meant. 🤢
Expedition Bible fan .... watching his channel getting the class time along with amazing footage of archeological biblical history 👍💯🇮🇱
Great findings!
Thank you both and God bless you and your ministry richly ❤
Great video
Several years back the history channel did a special on Sodom and Gomorrah. I had to turn it off because the first several minutes were spent attacking the Bible. This is interesting and I wish the history channel had just presented what was found and let the viewers come to their own conclusions. At the point of turning it off the only explanation given was maybe a gas pocket was released and exploded when it filled the cities.
The History Channel lies about everything they report. Pure junk disinformation.
In what ways did they attack it?
@@ivyrose779 bot.
@@ivyrose779 Basically they tried to say if you believe the biblical account then you are a fool.
Discovery and history channels are useless for Christian topics. I wont watch them.
AMEN brother McDowell I really appreciate your Christ centered and Scripturally accurate content for the furtherance of The Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ 🙏❤️👊. Josephus Flavius mentioned that Sodom and Gomorrah were visibly evidentiary in his writings back over two thousand years ago. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of but not macro or micro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
just a note, you forgot the Greek empire in Daniel's prophecy.
Joel is awesome!
Joel is great :)
So good to hear your probrams. the H.S. elevates my mind and spirit through your work. God bless.
Amen!
Just a comment about seeing burned cities, show the city in Italy , Pompei with bodies burned by lava, very sad and impressive.
Is there any chance of putting these places on a map. I type in Numeira and it comes up in that location but here are people clearly living there. I'm guessing the excavation site is elsewhere.
Logical, concise...great!
I believe the Fire came from above and below. The Earth. You don't mess with the Most High Father.
I LOVE this stuff. Can you do something on Mt Sinai/Jebel El Lawz?
Joel and I are going to do more of these together, so stay tuned!
@@SeanMcDowell Awesome! I can't wait!
Joel is amazing!!!!!
So cool. Thank you.
Joel does great work
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Those that abuse capital letters not only emphasise nothing but the hysteria of the abuser, they also declare the abuser to be a lunatic
Abusers abuse all sorts, who or what remains to be seen or prosecuted.self -abuse like abusing capital letters is like masturbation generally best not done in public.
The Torah has *Fcuk_Nothing* to do with the way of christ of which you understand nothing
Hi, Joel and Sean brother's in CHRIST JESUS.
Joel, can you explain from Gen. 13:10 Jordan valley to your assumption south of the deadsea presence and Zoar of the travel of LOT after leaving Abram
In Ezechiel 16:46 we are standing in Jerusalem looking south: left Sanaria, right sodom, correct?
I visited these 2 cities in 1999 when I visited Masada. Lol. Everyone in Israel knows where they are. Ron Wyatt brought them to the world's attention 30 years ago. Cmon guys.
Ron Wyatt was good on some things, and horrible on others..... He didn't "find them", he heard what the locals had said. Such as the Holy Mountain in Saudi.
@@TheRevering i didn't say Ron Wyatt "found them". Try reading what I said.
Right? Everyone keeps “finding” Ron Wyatt’s finds. Disingenuous.
@@navion1946 Based on Wyatt’s history, I certainly wouldn’t take his word on it. I’d want confirmation from someone with a reliable record.
@@ivyrose779 Hundreds of thousands have visited Sodom and Gomorrah. They aren't hard to find. There are plenty of witnesses. I went there in 1999. Sulphur balls and all. You can clearly see them also from standing on top of Masada!
Do fascinating!
So, took a look at some of his videos, while some of the story of Sodom and Gomorrah may be preserving cultural memory, the two sites he talks about, Bab edh-Dhra and Numeira, weren't destroyed at the same time and the latest levels of destruction have been dated to a few hundred years earlier than pretty much any chronology of the patriarchal period. Looking forward to the video though and hope it discusses what we do/don't know archaelogically with some nuance.
Cool. We do discuss dating and he gives his reasons for why he thinks they do line up together with the biblical chronology. You can watch and be the judge if you're convinced!
@@SeanMcDowell AMEN brother McDowell I really appreciate your Christ centered and Scripturally accurate content for the furtherance of The Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ 🙏❤️👊. Josephus Flavius mentioned that Sodom and Gomorrah were visibly evidentiary in his writings back over two thousand years ago. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of but not macro or micro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
@@SeanMcDowell Thanks for the response and his take on the C14 dating and pottery alignment is pretty interesting. I think my major issue is that Schaub (the one who he references as taking over the excavations after Lobb) explicitly states that the major destruction layer of Bab edh-Dhra occurred roughly 2350 BC followed by a later resettlement in an unwalled village. He also dates the demise of Numeira to 2600 BC. Neither the re-occupation, the time-period gap, nor the Early Bronze dating seem to fit the Middle Bronze story of Abraham. I'll dig around some more, but would love to see any papers that specify a later dating or deal with the resettlement issue -- the main source I'm looking at right now is "Crossing Jordan: North American Contributions to the Archaeology of Jordan".
Edit: Just pulled the field report and it looks like Rast and Shaub also dated the pottery of Strata II (the layer destroyed by fire) at Bab edh-Dhra to EB III (to roughly the same time frame as the C14 date gave), so even if later pottery from the re-settled Strata I matches a Middle Bronze date, the layer with destruction seems from both the account of pottery and C14 dating to be too early.
@@photoionized Excellent feedback, thanks. I will check that out.
The amazing fact is that from the Israeli side of the Red Sea, you can from approximately 20 km away, still observe the blackened topography on the Jordanian side, of the exact location where the main burn destruction occurred 3000 years ago. The Bible is the truth!
Can you tell me, has the Book of Esther been found in the dead sea scrolls and if not, what is the oldest known transcript?
Yacov rambsel would have had data like that
Esther isn't in qumran. It's hidden
Joel Kramer mentioned C-14 dating was not reliable. But surely some dates of some carefully chosen objects found in carefully examined relatively undisturbed strata provide more reliable dates than others. There are also additional ways to date some objects. What are the results so far? What detailed attempts have been made to obtain such dates?
I would love to see you get Mr. Kramer on a panel with Steve Collins. I think they'd have a great discussion on Sodom.
I'll place another vote on that idea !!!
So what do yall say about the sights Ron Wyatt found on the west side.?
Joel Kramer shows other locations than Ron. Ron thought, that Gomorrah would be found right and left of the parking place under Masada, the destroyed cities Zoar, Sodom, Gomorrah, Adama and Zebojim being in one line on the western banks of the dead sea.
Those are the areas., where You still find the sulfur balls. I believe, that Ron found the right places, but i'm still wondering if God transformed it so completely that there was only a boiling mess with brimstone and fire. Then the valleys are just wadis cut into the ashes by desert rainfalls.
Or if HE wants us to get more proof, that this once were cities. But i don't think, that "normal" excavations would be best to gain proof. I believe core drilling or jabbing a staff with a camera in front into the walls would be best to investigate the area. You don't have a high risk something collapsing in on You, You do not destroy much and You need a camera anyway to document the proof...
Some months ago i did one horizontal "core drill". 2m far, ca. 2cm diameter (big enough to put a camera and lamp into) to find out if there may be still hollows to find. I could not spend more time there, did not find a chamber, only all the same gypsum ash material as on the outside. So the quest for truth is still on. If we could find a proof that there was a city, it might help somebody to leave his way to hell. Right before my drilling i was in Jerusalem and spoke with people whom the police withheld from coming to their homes for hours - because the police had to protect a "pride parade". The first word the Bible uses to describe the sins of S.& G. is "Pride"!
Nobody ever responds when asked about Ron.... The truth is out there
But Wyatt did not consult the Biblical Scriptures to see where the Bible says Sodom and the cities of the Kikkar was located.
The result there is the Biblical location of Sodom based on the Bible. and
there is Wyatt's Sodom, base on Wyatt's speculations and imagination.
I chose to follow the Biblical location, instead of Wyatt's Sodom. DZ
I'm not saying he is cirrect, but his wife goes in great detail about why they think they are on the west side. Some of them have windows and doorways. It's short sighted to respond like that. You obviously don't know the whole theory. Regardless of which sight is correct.
@@theblackflag2020 Hello !
I have studied this issue of the location of Sodom quite a bit, and enough to say that the site Wyatt proposed is contrary to the site the Scriptures describe.
I am also aware that the site Wyatt is proposing (the area off the southwestern coast of the Dead Sea) has been subjected to archaeological surveys and professionals have determined that there is nothing of archaeological significance where Wyatt thinks Sodom was located. Even though there are some traditional sites in the area (Lot's Wife and Mt. Sodom), these are strictly natural geological features and do not have any significance in determining the actual location of Sodom.
As you said Wyatt saw the geological structures on the west side of the Dead Sea and his imagination lead him to think he saw windows and doorways in these structures, so he jumps to the unmerited conclusion that these structures are ruins of the buildings of Sodom.
Unlike real professional archaeologists, Wyatt (who has a poor understanding of the discipline of archaeology) NEVER called in professional geologists and geological consultants (or any consultants of any kind). He relied on his training as a nurse and his imagination to make these interpretations.
Geologists have completely dismissed the idea that these structures are man made.They are without a doubt natural geological structures. These same kinds of geological structures are found all around the Dead Sea - we know the buildings of Sodom did not surround the Dead Sea !
Wyatt also never conducted any excavations which would have provided verifiable evidence as to whether these structures were man-made or natural. If Wyatt and/or associates wanted to provide any real evidence for such assertions, then it is NECESSARY to conduct excavations and if there are any human structures there, there WILL BE EVIDENCE !
Until evidence is found, there is no reason to believe Wyatt found anything other than a vivid imagination. Only gullible, naive people will believe Wyatt's imagination, of Wyatt's Sodom, without any real tangible verifiable evidence.
A major consideration that that students of the Scriptures will be aware of is that The Scriptures provide us with the general location of Sodom and the cities of the plain (Kikkar), and Wyatt's Sodom does NOT fit the description of the location given in the Scriptures. Wyatt and his followers are generally not people who study the Scriptures deeply and in a scholarly manner.
This is clear in Wyatt's many Scriptural blunders. He likes to chose and use certain Scriptures that support his ideas, at the exclusion of of the significant points of Scripture that question Wyatt's interpretations, and his followers are never the wiser.
Bottom line. - Wyatt should have used the Scriptures to find the location of Sodom, not his imagination - But Wyatt ignored what the Scriptures said about the issue.
Wyatt also ignores established protocols of archaeological field work, the use of specialists to help understand the issues accurately and the importance of record keeping and professional verification.
Why people would consider Wyatt has anything creditable to say Is a bit of a mystery, until one hears him speak. He is a master of storytelling and that is how he is able to appeal to those, who don't have the mind of the Bereans.
Be Well, DZ.
Ron Wyitt found multiple different things also , like where Israel crossed the sea and several others
This makes a lot of sense. Lot only had from before dawn to the rising of the sun to make it to Zoar. Zoar as determined by the Madaba Mosiac map as being on the south-east shore of the upper basin of the Dead Sea. It was only 3-5 miles away from Sodom.
Lot later left Zoar and went to live in a cave in the hills. He produced a son with his daughter. That son was named Moab. Moab is the country where Zoar is on the Madaba Map.
According to the Bible the Dead Sea was the location of the battle Abraham fought to get Lot back. It, according to the Bible, was a plain with tar pits. I wonder if it's the place the burning brimstone broke lose from. I wonder what the bottom of the Dead Sea is like.
Didnt josephus mention that the remnants and remains of soddom and Gomorrah were Still visible in his day ?
I am extremely interested in the answer to this question
Olll
Yes he did
Still visible today
@@Dogsday198 what?
Joel is the man, I love his videos.
Thank you.
This is so interesting.
Is sulfur raining down something that we have seen or have evidence of anywhere else? Is this a rare but known phenomena?
If anyone is interested in seeing what Sodom and Gomorrah burning would have looked like at night due to the sulfur, do a TH-cam search for blue volcano Indonesia.
@michaelibach9063
Or look at the actual results on Tell el-Hammam.
Yay! Thanks.
What might the kind of extreme, intense burning that happened at S&G have upon carbon dating?
Not sure heat would have any effect on the rate of decay of C14 isotopes, but it is less accurate over long periods of time because the margin of error increases. There is something called the Marine reservoir effect where carbon sources from ocean (e.g. a marine diet) are older and can give misleading results. The biggest problem though is the selection of samples which is open to human error! It certainly isn't the magic bullet a lot of people would have you believe
I am curious about what Joel makes of the sulfur balls found over on the west side of the Dead Sea. Are these the sites that Ron Wyatt filmed decades ago, where he claimed that the geological structures where the sulfur balls were found where actual remnants of the cities?
If those aren’t cities, then how do you explain the sulfur balls on the west side of the Dead Sea?
That’s a great question, Chuck. I’m not sure about Ron’s claim, but will ask Joel.
Wasn't Wyatt exposed as a fraudster?
@@bear7098 I don’t know that much about Ron Wyatt. I guess I am skeptical about his claims to have found Noah’s Ark. And I’m not sure that the coral deposits found on the bottom of the Gulf of Aqaba are truly chariot wheels. He may have been a fraudster.
But the films that Wyatt shot of himself picking up sulfur balls below the mountain of Masada are genuine; as this new video by Joel Kramer also is. I’ve been a Christian for over 45 years. I’ve come to realize that even if I’m searching in a garbage dump, sometimes it’s possible to find precious things. And so I continue to seek, knock, and ask.
Check out Ron Wyatt discovery here:
th-cam.com/video/tZKBHyIBrHA/w-d-xo.html
Secular consensus concludes that the sulfur balls match the sulfur of Old Faithful at Yellowstone during Cambrian explosions, then forgotten about in Gobekli teppi stone age as foragers. However, someone uploaded the Kurdish rebel kidnapping news compilations to further expose Ron Wyatt' entire East Turkey Expedition and vandalism on the Anchor stone ⚓.
The OG fake news definitely had better style back in them days . 📰
Can we give Ron Wyatt a hat-tip too please?
Bab-Edh-dhra and Numeira don't seem to match up imho. The reason (in my own words) is as follows:
Genesis 10:19 describes a viewpoint on the south east of the Dead Sea (directly east of Gaza) looking northwards towards Sodom, Gomorrah etc. as far as Laish (Dan) in the far north a the foot of Mt.Hermon.
An additional clue for the location of cities of the plain on the east of the Jordan is found in one of the Ebla tablets, which lists Damascus immediately before the five(six) cities of the plain, just as Genesis 14 mentions Abram chasing the invading kings on their way home north past Damascus, after initially confronting them at Dan (on the east bank of the Jordan). The eastern Jordan plain matches this description slightly better, being east of the Jordan and in greater proximity to Damascus. A more compelling argument however is that the inheritance of Lot in the mountains which he fled to are Ammon and Moab, whose mutual border lies south east of Jericho. The location of Bab-Edh-dhra and Numeira instead are located further south in the territory of Edom (Esau), the people of Abraham’s grandson that occupied this area not long after, south of Moab.
Thus the East-Jordan-plain or ‘northern hypothesis’ for the cities of the plain seems more plausible compared to the traditional sites of Bab-edh-dhra and Numeira. The only convincing evidence for the southern hypothesis is a 6th century AD byzantine map which places Zoar in the circular and admittedly very ‘kikkar’(disc)-like peninsula on the south east side of the dead sea. However this association may have arisen erroneously prior to or during the Byzantine period just as it has arisen today from the same presuppositions concerning a circular salted and desolated plain. Additionally, evidence for a catastrophic airburst event in the eastern Jordan plain exists dated to the Middle Bronze Age (MBII) period, whilst during this same period Bab-edh-dhra and Numeira had both been long abandoned, and although evidence exists for their sudden destruction and burning, there exists no matching evidence for any cosmic event that would match the description of fire from the sky as described in Genesis 19. Therefore the best conclusion regarding these two sites is destruction by an unrelated natural disaster.
An additional scriptural mention which seems to suggest a location for Sodom south of Jerusalem and which did cause me a degree of doubt is Ezekiel 16:46-56. However Ezekiel is very poetic with a lot of flair, and the context of Sodom's mention is this: Your mother was a Hittite (north), your father an Amorite (south), your elder sister is Samaria (North) and your younger sister is Sodom (south). All that can be certain is that Sodom is south of Samaria, and this doesn't necessitate being south of Jerusalem. The verse is just picking the nearest centres of evil in the north and south respectively and is not a geographical survey. Additionally the southern-most Amorites were located in the eastern Jordan plain, and there is no evidence of Amorite inhabitation further south of this, where instead the tribes of Edom dwelt.
I’m quite sure Dr Collins has been digging ancient Sodom for years.
Yeah, I watched a presentation from Dr Collins a while back that seemed convincing. I feel like Collins and Kramer both give compelling reasons for their arguments, but locate Sodom on opposite sides of the Dead Sea. It would be helpful to see them debate this, or at least interact with each other's arguments.
Kramer specifically denied that any such sites exist…is he simply ignorant of that work??
@@JohnVandivier Hi John
I believe he said that he didn’t believe Dr. Collins site at Tall Al Hammam was Sodom for an couple of reasons.
I think they’re at about year 18 in the dig up there. Quite fascinating. Dr. Collins has several presentations and lots of artifacts. He’s fun to watch.
@@tylerenns Great suggestion. Maybe I can have them on together next!
@@tylerenns Like the Holy grail, I don't think it matters "where it is." What matters is the message and what can happen now if we don't take heed.
What is Google Earth coordinates ?
Nice interview, as for Sodom I don't think so.. I'm still looking for Santa's workshop.
So you've refuted all the claims being made here? Give us one refutation.
So how is your dig going near the Dead Sea?
Could the sulfur balls have been ball lightning?
Why... do Tells contain several chronological remainders of cities?
What about the mineral content of the soil beneath the ash? What percentage is sulphur?
Apparently just 50% but it's enough to burn blue 🔥🔵
@@skellingtonmeteoryballoon What is the data source? And what is the mineral content around the Dead Sea in general?
@@edwardtbabinski I tromped around Gomorrah in 2011...there really is no "soil" just compacted ash. You'd prob have to dig deep to get to earth that was not exposed to high temps...also , I recovered some sulfur balls from Gomorrah and had it tested with FTIR Spectroscopy.....95% pure sulfur.
the Greek New Testament doesn't have "end of the world", for when God's wrath comes on the world. It has "end of the Age". He must be getting end of the world from the KJV where they translate Age as world.
It seems like the KJV has a significant amount of mistranslations and not inconsequential ones. I don’t understand why so many people insist that it is the “right” Bible outside of that’s just what they’ve been told their entire lives.
It's the end of evil. And the beginning of true peace.
"Evil" meaning It-doesn't-like-it(what else?)
It just *is_not* going to like everything; there is always the peace of the grave and the fast asleep.
Sean reminds me of the adult version of tin tin from the adventures of tin tin.
on satellite images you can still make out a riverbed connecting the Dead Sea and the Gulf of Aqaba, but it looks like something must have stopped up the river stopping the Jordan from flowing all the way to the Gulf
Wow!
One thing I find striking every time I go back to the Bible is that they never really get magnitude across. From a plain reading, you'd think there was one Ark of the Covenant, one Noahs Ark, one Sodom and Gomorrah, Jesus was crucified on one cross, poked with one spear, etc. Little did we know there are dozens to hundreds of each in each story. Really changes your perspective when you worship, glory to God! 🙌🙌🙌
Dozens to hundreds of each? What do you mean by that?
@@winniecash1654 Noah had a fleet of Arcs for all the Arks that have been found. Multidimensional Jesus was simultaneously crucified on thousands of crosses for all the cross wood that was found. It's a joke at expense of the fact that every relic that Christians find important has been "found" at least dozens of times. Sodom and Gomorrah have been "found" many times too.
P.s. "found" = someone claimed that some random nothing was the relic
@@bouncycastle955 I think I understand your point. There's a yes and a no (or perhaps not literally speaking). I'll mull it over.
Are you a blood Jew or a religious Jew?
Thank You. This is a Very Interesting Study, goes somewhat along with what I've Learned over the Decades about S & G.
Plus- I learned a Fresh Swear!
Now, when I Drop a Cast Iron skillet on My Foot or the Dog Runs Out and I can't catch Up in My Wheelchair... I CAN Exclaim:
SULFERBALLS!!!
Hahahahaahaha!
Yeah- THAT's the Ticket!!!
Ron Wyatt has footage of where he thinks Sodom and Gomorrah are.
Dear @jlouutube65
But Wyatt did not consult the Biblical Scriptures to see where the Bible says Sodom and the cities of the Kikkar was located.
The result there is the Biblical location of Sodom based on the Bible. and
there is Wyatt's Sodom, base on Wyatt's speculations and imagination.
I chose to follow the Biblical location, instead of Wyatt's Sodom. DZ
Am fascinated by this story. Yes I agree that burning Sulfur balls likely devastated the two cities and they evidence is in the Sulfur balls still present in the grounds close by. But my question is where did they come from. I understand that sulfur balls come from Volcanic activity so this should also be looked at and researched. Also, was it volcanic activity that ignited the sulfur balls as the tradition states is was "raining brimstone". So this means they were likely ejected at the same time ?.
According to R.Wyatts records it is not volcanic sulfur, which is yellow and is less pure than the white sulfur found at the site
@@marionchase-kleeves8311Ron Wyatt is a fraud and shouldn’t be used to help Christianity
Who told you that"burning Sulfur balls likely devastated the two cities", and why do you believe them, oh credulous little kinderlander child?
burning Sulfur balls my arse! You kinderlander-Americans, are as credulous as imbecile children I think because that is how you are programmed or conditioned r wound up. burning sulphur balls indeed. Complete balls that is. Obvious nonsense that not even a retarded child would believe- only the kinderlander, the children of the peoples of the world and as credulous as children.
Yes Ron Wyatt made this discovery back in 1989. The videos on still on TH-cam.
He never discovered squat. He was a fraud. Amazing all these things he 'found' but never produced a thing for any of them.
Joel Kramer shows other locations than Ron. Ron thought, that Gomorrah would be found right and left of the parking place under Masada, the destroyed cities Zoar, Sodom, Gomorrah, Adama and Zebojim being in one line on the western banks of the dead sea.
Those are the areas., where You still find the sulfur balls. I believe, that Ron found the right places, but i'm still wondering if God transformed it so completely that there was only a boiling mess with brimstone and fire. Then the valleys are just wadis cut into the ashes by desert rainfalls.
Or if HE wants us to get more proof, that this once were cities. But i don't think, that "normal" excavations would be best to gain proof. I believe core drilling or jabbing a staff with a camera in front into the walls would be best to investigate the area. You don't have a high risk something collapsing in on You, You do not destroy much and You need a camera anyway to document the proof...
Some months ago i did one horizontal "core drill". 2m far, ca. 2cm diameter (big enough to put a camera and lamp into) to find out if there may be still hollows to find. I could not spend more time there, did not find a chamber, only all the same gypsum ash material as on the outside. So the quest for truth is still on. If we could find a proof that there was a city, it might help somebody to leave his way to hell. Right before my drilling i was in Jerusalem and spoke with people whom the police withheld from coming to their homes for hours - because the police had to protect a "pride parade". The first word the Bible uses to describe the sins of S.& G. is "Pride"!
But Wyatt did not consult the Biblical Scriptures to see where the Bible says Sodom and the cities of the Kikkar was located.
The result there is the Biblical location of Sodom based on the Bible. and
there is Wyatt's Sodom, base on Wyatt's speculations and imagination.
I chose to follow the Biblical location, instead of Wyatt's Sodom. DZ
Have any deposits of salt found???
dr steven collins is an amazing archaeologist!
Wyatt discovered this site years ago.
Joel Kramer shows a different location than Wyatt. Ron thought, that Gomorrah would be found right and left of the parking place under Masada, the destroyed cities Zoar, Sodom, Gomorrah, Adama and Zebojim being in one line on the western banks of the dead sea.
Those are the areas., where You still find the sulfur balls. I believe, that Ron found the right places, but i'm still wondering if God transformed it so completely that there was only a boiling mess with brimstone and fire. Then the valleys are just wadis cut into the ashes by desert rainfalls.
Or if HE wants us to get more proof, that this once were cities. But i don't think, that "normal" excavations would be best to gain proof. I believe core drilling or jabbing a staff with a camera in front into the walls would be best to investigate the area. You don't have a high risk something collapsing in on You, You do not destroy much and You need a camera anyway to document the proof...
Some months ago i did one horizontal "core drill". 2m far, ca. 2cm diameter (big enough to put a camera and lamp into) to find out if there may be still hollows to find. I could not spend more time there, did not find a chamber, only all the same gypsum ash material as on the outside. So the quest for truth is still on. If we could find a proof that there was a city, it might help somebody to leave his way to hell. Right before my drilling i was in Jerusalem and spoke with people whom the police withheld from coming to their homes for hours - because the police had to protect a "pride parade". The first word the Bible uses to describe the sins of S.& G. is "Pride"!
So is Numeira actually Gomorrah?
Joel what do you think of Dr Steven Collins work he used the Bible as a road map and found what he believes is the Biblical site and his evidence seems so complete?
One kind of liar is he who believes what he *wants* to believe
In reality Dr. Collins has been excavating Sodom for about a decade. Tall el Hamman is now accepted as Sodom of the bible by the archeological community consensus.
The archeological consensus is that Dr. Collins has found Sodom. Google TH-cam for Tall el Hammam
The crossing of the Red see is a misunderstanding... The Bible speaks about the see of reeds....
the inly times that spelling matters is when you seek to convey the verb to see or the noun the sea, and do not wish to confuse the two, but you missed that class presumably, ty red sea
Show me the pictures.
Sean, if you ever want to talk "O sun, stand still over Gibeon..." Get into Velikofsky or the guys of the Electric Universe, they have a thing or two to say about Sodom & Gomorrah, it is a different scientific perspective which allows for the catastrophism in the Bible
Could you please use account rather than story as that can make the difference in understanding that the biblical accounts aren't stories is myths. Many thanks
Why don't you use a map?
Tall el-Hammam Excavation Project
Faith creates its own supposed proof.
Are you saying the sulfur balls were a kind of napalm? Like a “mud” ball of sulfur, held together with crude oil (?) and raining down like a cluster munition?
Also, the Russian natural explosion and has from earthquakes with gas could explain general destruction. How did these natural events nail 4 cities and spared 1? It looks like targeting to me.
I just watched a video about Ron Wyat. His wife makes it sound like he found Sodom and the other cities. Now this video sounds like Ron was not the first to find it.
Can you bring on Eric Metaxas? He has an account in his most recent book that has evidence that these cities were northeast of the Dead Sea where there is a layer of black melted rock that had to be at temperatures that could not be produced on earth at the time.
Eric Metexas isn't an archeologist.
He already interviewed Erick metaxis last year on that book. It was a great interview. I'm really wanting to get the book
Good suggestion, and yes, had him on a few months back!
What temperature couldn't be achieved on Earth at that time?
The name to check out is Dr. Stephen Collins excavating Tal El Hammam. More convincing than this IMO.
Steve Collins already discovered it
Sodom and Gomorrah are all around us
2:30 translate that to how the Jewish Christians survived the end of the age
Darwin's theory √*criticalness