@@BOLOM7shut up bolom, you’re from a third world country, probably somewhere in India. You hate old games even though you can’t run this game at max on your 1050ti anyway.
And in RDR 1 doing side missions as Jack Jack is more sympathetic meanwhile John is cynical for your next comparison you should see what Jack does better than John in RDR 1
RDR2 didn't do that before, they changed something in an update at some point. I remember killing all the law in Valentine, and once all the law died off, townsfolk would come and try to defend the town, once all of them were killed, that was the end of it.
If i'm not mistaken, there was a feature when you could whistle to your horse while running and it will catch up with you allowing you to mount it while running towards your destination. However, in rdr2 trying to do so leads to your horse running slower than you are, so you have to stop and wait for it to approach you. That makes you lose so much time, especially when you want to chase someone... Can't stand it
Bro I thought I could do this in RDR2 and was so confused why it wasn’t working on my new playthough. I was just misremembering something from RDR1. I felt crazy thank you.
RDR1 having unlimited Bounty Missions and replayable Gang Hideouts is something that should’ve been ported to RDR2. I feel that after you finish the campaign and all of the bounty missions all of your fancy weapons will just be decoration if you don’t intend to massacre a town after an quick save
I definitely wish rdr2 had some replayable/unlimited content. There are a lot of bounties but I feel like you run out of them pretty quickly if you start actually focusing on them. And I wish there were more stagecoach robberies, you run out of those way too quickly.
It's a double edge sword. On the one hand it's cool to do it forever but on the other hand, they're all the same. RDR2's bounty missions maybe limited but they're all memorable
Yeah. Also for the stagecoaches robberies idve LOVED for that to have been infinitely replayable. Wouldn’t have been hard to implement either. Maybe you could elevate it to designated store robberies or bank/train robberies. Wouldn’t have to sell so many damm pelts.
@@SpikeJet2736se um certo sistema nemesis de Shadow of War e Mordor não tivesse uma patente, daria para fazer um randomizador muito divertido que não iria repetir as missões.
Don't forget, after you shot their legs, you can run up to the enemy in RDR 1 to get a unique finisher move by tapping the R2 or RT while not aiming. Can be done from the back or front
i always say this. graphics never equal atmosphere. it can contribue greatly but it's not the definition. RDR1 even with it's aged graphics pack so much atmosphere, along with the soundtrack, it's so nice
@@Mr_guy99I wonder why they removed that feature in RDR2 if it was in the first game. I never even noticed untill this video, but just to know about this downgrade is dissapointing.
RDR 1 also has a feature that tells you where the train is, so you can at least follow it if you want to travel on the roof. The duelling is better too.
@@mikeyb0121 I don’t think I’ve ever seen it. I was playing it yesterday and I wanted to do a train robbery for the 100 % completion and I couldn’t see it anywhere.
The missing jobs and activities is the biggest downgrade in my opinion. 2 has a beautiful world but there’s not a lot to do outside of hunting that’s not a scripted linear thing.
I think they would have added it if they had more time. Believe it or not, they weren't ready, which doesn't show all that much. But really, the way you make money in Rdr2 is robbing people and trains, then you can replace people robbing with hunting and fishing if you're high honor. You could already rob a train in Rdr1 though and in both they still gave you a lot of money. Now fishing? I love fishing, I'm so glad they added that! It just would have been nice for some RNG missions to do so you can make more honest money as high honor, I never thought RNG jobs were bad as long as they did it right.
I don't agree with that "lack of time" or "you are a gang member" bs. Current technology already allows games to get updated, patched, as many times as necessary. I believe rockstar didn't make an investment on the repeatable jobs and post history playability in RDR2, because in fact they did make the content, but they would rather put it on RDR Online, as it's more fit for it and also they believed it would be a success like GTA online.
And even the hunting gets tedious FAST, if not frustrating, even. I don't think I hate anything in that game more than going for the damned satchel upgrades. I like the fishing, though. Fishing is nice.
I mostly miss the ambience tune that played all the time in RDR1. It adds alot to the vibe compared to RDR2. And RDR1 still hat unique cool themes in missions. It just had tunes beside that.
@@YellowBriefs yes it is rdr1 has that drunk animation and climbing object transtion by hands detail and its present in gta 4 and the reason rdr2 didnt had these details because gta v didnt had that details either because of optimizations and some other shit all i am saying, rdr2 is made up by gta v while rdr1 is made up by gta 4 and rdr1 didnt had the pc port because gta 4 optimization is shit and rdr1 used assets from gta 4 and rdr1 would have shit optimization and that is the reason why rockstar id still wokring on rdr1 pc port
Rdr1 is a superior game. 100% main game + undead nightmare (though the dlc is a bit of a dull fetch quest fest) almost fully on my own. Rdr2? Fucking 92%, man, i can’t stand this shit anymore. I also like it how you actually control your horse while following someone while doing missions in Rdr1, while in the second you can’t do shit without your stead going nuts. Why not just make it a cutscene or make the long rides skippable? There’s plenty of story missions in THE FIRST game where you can skip the rides (mostly in Mexico). Honestly, Rdr2 feels like the worst decisions from the first one multiplied by several digits. No improvements in design at all: why did they force those awful “survival” mechanics is beyond me - it’s a huge ass game as it is, why make it even more tedious?
@@Fireok73 honestly, the only thing rdr2 does better is the environmental storytelling. I honestly enjoy it a lot and wish rdr1 had more. But I agree with a lot of what you’re saying. I also hate the horses in rdr2, because when you call for them, they just walk away for some reason, and always run away. I have right now 1191 hours on rdr2 and I still honestly hate the horses
It did! And, if I recall, music would also slightly change at night. Or it's just that the music in RDR 1 fit day and night so seemlessly. Like the whistling. Not enough whistle in 2!
@Bycekko Don't the nightfolk disappear after awhile? Like I had I think 3 or 4 different encounters with then after that last one where you're defending that swamp house home whatever I never had another encounter with them again
Here is 2 things rdr1 also does better then rdr2 First:When using Stagecoach in rdr1 you can tell them to drive you to a custom marker you placed in rdr2 you can drive olny to towns Second: you can rob a bank in rdr1 whenever you feel like it meanwhile in rdr2 you do that olny in mission which you can do once unless you download a mod
The combat is shit lmao. Combat in almost every Rockstar game is shit in both gunplay and hand to hand. Only exception is GTA 4 for hand to hand, actual gunplay is garbage. What even is the point of dead eye when the game literally aims for you in the first place.
The combat was BS garbage. Cops shoot you through walls with a pistol from miles away while on a horse or running or not even facing you. Not much better in 2 but at least walls work.
It makes no sense that we can kick doors in RDR2 and them not open. It would’ve been so badass to be kickin down doors and shit, but no, we only get to do it for a single mission.
This is so disappointing 😢 I want a game that everything is destructible like crashing into a building damaged the building and carage and horses are very heavy they can crash into a house and wind up inside it that be awesome graphics lol 😂
When they introduced kicking down doors, I thought that was the thing that you would actually use often, but you only ever use it in scripted scenarios
there are actually a couple of doors in the free roam that you gotta kick for it to open, like the house near Valentine/Dakota River with the two dead children inside, but they are so few in the game that the feature is quite useless
It’s not lol Spamming deadeye Tonics Not having to do any of the things the game tells you to do like Eating Drinking Sleeping Feeding your camp Your horse Cleaning your guns Etc Isn’t realistic rdr2 is unrealistic as hell There’s good details but the gameplay is unrealistic
@@DeadX2Compared to rdr1 it's realistic as hell but it's still a game at the end of the day. If they forced these mechanics in a realistic way you'd be whining about that aswell. Realistic doesn't necessarily mean better but most agree it was a welcome immersive addition.
@@outlawmorgan1853Nothing in RDR2 will top the realism of having risk in combat like in RDR1. You can actually die in a few shots in the first game and only have a few tonics. In RDR2 you have 100 tonics and can take 20 shots before dying. If there's zero risk, how can it ever be realistic? Eating, bathing and all that are just gimmicks.
@@Pedro_Le_Chef The same game where you can sprint infinitly and fire and reload rifles with one hand??The same game where all the revolvers and rifles can be fired without cocking and somehow have fully automatic pistols in 1911? The same game where you can never get knocked out in that goofy hand to hand combat? I get what you mean about taking multiple shots in rdr2 but in rdr1 John instantly dies as soon as water reaches necklevel, both can be ridiculous at times. Overall rdr2 is more realistic but once again that doesn't mean better. I can definitely see why some might find rdr1 gameplay to be more fun than rdr2s.
Those characters also felt way more fleshed out and I liked them more than I did in 2. Like why do some of the characters like Bill and Javier feel so less important than they should? I hardly recall them having missions.
RDR1 embodies the last gen game making, where almost every game wanted to be good, not just mediocre and buyable. Look at Skyrim, Dishonored, GTA4 and many more compared to what we get now, one good game for the year, which also makes the GOTY show boring when there is barely any competition. Also about the ledge climbing, they could have added missions and places where you need to climb a bit, either for stealth or gaining a shooting advantage, but Rockstar said "nah no one uses it" and removed it altogether. Solved with the wrong solution to the problem they made themselves.
gta 4 is a superior game to gta 5 in just about every way besides graphically and even that is debatable if you're judging off the atmosphere and not the realism
Skyrim is a terrible game to use. That game was just about as lazy as Fallout 3. I wish we were back in an era where Bethesda could hide their bullshit just a tad bit better and the only things we had to worry about was Emil's laziness and the poor implementation of dragons.
@troypowers750 fallout 3 had an amazing environment. It's just nobody ever notices the vast details they put in. With the small amount of assets it's easy to see everything as similar which was one of thier big problems.
Its not just the legshots, the whole use of the euphoria engine was impressive and far ahead in RDR1 compared to RDR2. The reason for the huge euphoria downgrade in GTA5 and RDR2 is, that this tech isnt used as a main feature anymore...
@@random_content8840 There is no need for the developement of a new euphoria tuning. R* just need to recycle the already existing tuning from Max Payne 3. Would fit perfect. The reality is, that R* will develope a new toned down euphoria tuning which again will kill all the fun of physical NPC interaction.
I didn't realise the not-pushing people thing. It's one of the first things i discovered and that i completely loved about GTA IV. It was a technical revolution, for me. Other things: - In RDR1 the challenges are actually immersive and fun. You feel you cannot NOT do them. - In RDR1 the stranger missions felt like more complementary to the THEME of the main story. It was not just random encounters with bizarre characters. They expanded on the philosophical ideas of the wild west and the presence of death and the dark fate. In RDR2 the most central secondary missions (that are not even "stranger missions) are the Strauss missions, which expanded on the idea of moral dilemmas of the main character.
No it isn't lmao. Where are they similar? Being able to hang from ledges is the closest they come. Horses and cars are not the same, dynamite and RPGs are not the same, a developing frontier and a giant city is not the same, frontier lawmen and LCPD officers are not the same, repeaters and automatic rifles are not the same, I don't see what you mean.
Devs were more focused on New Hanover, Grizzlies, northern part of West Elizabeth and Lemoyne, so thats why New Austin feels so empty (they also have been planning on adding Mexico in RDR2 but they thought that the game is "already big enough")
I just realized the other day you can actually walk on foot across the map it’s smaller than it looks I lost my horse and walked a lot I actually passed the town I was walking to and didn’t notice I way passed it being on foot I miss judged on how long I should walk for I was even playing around lol 😂 it’s doable to walk lol 😂
being able to kick down doors or break locks was such a missed opportunity in rdr2. would've been so cool to break into homes through windows or doors in the middle of the night and raid npcs
The freedom, ambience, setting, and John made this game special. The bandana had a useful worth. Ambience felt natural, fitting, but can't explain on how well it fits the game. John Marston and John Rambo are my heroes. Bad past and try to bring positivity for their future, but trouble keeps coming. They're inspiring and motivational through my life. And John marston should be considered a hero with all the John's.
You quote a lot of useless things... But forgot about the bounty system who allows you to corrupt the police, the graces letters, the fact that the prices of animals parts change dependind of the region, buying properties, the fact you can skin horses, the "little jobs" you can do, totally missing in RDR2, the ability of cheating in a poker game, the possibility of robbing banks.. Dude seriously... With all the things I just quoted, all was coming to you is the fact that when you walk you can't push the npc ? Come on..
When you realise a video, I think its normal to work a little your subject ! I am sorry, but I just losted my time watching a video talking about useless things
It's hilarious in RDR 1 too. When the NPC finally wakes up from the knock out, they come running at you once again. They refuse to quit, no matter how many times you punch their lights out. Makes me laugh every time.
The interiors aren’t open because the one in the saloon was the room for rdr1 because you couldn’t camp outdoors and for the other stores it’s because the town has cholera in Rdr2
The only critical feature i see there is the one i was highly disapointed with when i played RDR2 : Damages location. Being able to disable NPCs by shooting on their knees, feet, hands was realistic af and i really don't understand why rockstar haven't implemented it in RDR2.
@@chancegaming487mostly because it's a much better game. Better shooting, better ragdolls, infinite bounties, random events, duels, more mini games, better music, better outfits with cool attributes, more gang hideouts, jobs in towns, better health system, less tonics, faster deadeye
@@Pedro_Le_Chef shooting and guns felt better in 2, the bounties were disappointing but i don't thin 1 had ultimate bounties, there are random events in 2, ragdolls do not seem to be better and the new animation that come with RDR 2 are better than in 1, same amount of mini games and RDR 2 has better mini games, music didn't seem much if any better at all, outfits were far better in RDR 2 with more customization and far more options, there were duels in RDR 2, there was one less gang hideout but gangs can appear in towns and i don't recall that happening in 1 at all, they can also randomly appear at your camp to wake you and threaten you, not sure what you mean by this because there were jobs in towns, the health system was seemingly identical, i don't see how less tonics is a good thing, if its faster at all its was unnoticeable to me. RDR 2 is a much better game, better story, better gun play, better customization, better hunting, better gangs, better map, better horses, better guns, better random events.
@@TmanRock9 " shooting and guns felt better in 2" No they don't. That's simply false and can be easily proven by playing both games without auto aim on a controller. RDR1 doesn't have aiming sway, reticle bloom or bullet sponge enemies. "the bounties were disappointing but i don't thin 1 had ultimate bounties" lol what's ultimate bounties"? "there are random events in 2" No here aren't. There are scripted events that play out once and then never repeat themselves, making the world feel empty after you finish the scripted events. At this point I know i am arguing with a fanboy that doesnt even understand the game they are fanboying over. "ragdolls do not seem to be better and the new animation that come with RDR 2 are better than in 1" You mean ragdolls dont seem to be better in RDR2? I agree. Yes RDR2 has better animations, but i am talking about ragdoll physics, not animations. If you mean ragdolls don't seem better in RDr1 the nyou are simply mistaken. I have a video showing all the programmed positions the bodies are made to fall into in RDR2. "same amount of mini games and RDR 2 has better mini games" Same amount of mini games? Ok, lets count them. RDR2:Poker, Blackjack, Finger Fillet, Dominoes. Four Minigames RDR1: Poker, Blackjack, Finger Fillet, Liar's Dice, Horseshoes, Arm Wrestling. Six Minigames. Go back to primary school, you need to relearn basic algebra. Considering that 3/4 of RDR2's miniganmes are the same as RDR1s, you are saying that Dominoes alone is better than Liar's Dice, Horseshoes and Arm Wrestling combined, LOL! I bet you haven't even completed the gambler challenges for the domninoes lmao. "outfits were far better in RDR 2 with more customization and far more options" You have more clothing options in RDR2 yet they don't look as personalized or as well fitted as the outfits in RDR1. Just go compare Legend of the West outfit to Legend of the East. In RDR1 outfits gave you special abilities such as more deadeye, being able to be friends with outlaws in gang hideouts, cheating in poker, entering a luxurious hotel room to play high stakes poker etc. " there were duels in RDR 2" Yes, very, very few of them, i think 10 in the entire game. it's a complete joke compared to RDR1 where as you get more famous more people want to duel you or if you are low honor family members duel you to avenge their relatives. "there was one less gang hideout" One less gang hideout but remember RDR1 world was much smaller so the hideouts were much close to each other, making exploration a lot more fun because you could go from one hideout to the other within a small time frame. In RDR2 hideouts are extremely far apart and take way too long to repopulate. If you want action you basically can only slaughter lawmen. "but gangs can appear in towns and i don't recall that happening in 1 at all" HAHAHAHA ok let me dismantle your argument. *YES there are gang members in towns in RDR1* , and you can even shoot them without getting a wanted level. Gang members also play minigames like poker, blackjack and finger fillet in salloons. There is a random event where gang members ride through a town and drag a civillian with a lasso, you can shoot them to free him and gain honor. Not only that, but there's even a town in RDR1 that's exclusively an outlaw settlement where you can shoot people and not even get a wanted level. You are wrong on so many levels its not even funny. Have you EVER played RDR1 because i don't think you even have, at least not in twelve years. " they can also randomly appear at your camp to wake you and threaten you" As I said, scripted event. It happens a few times but after you've triggered them all they never repeat themselves. "not sure what you mean by this because there were jobs in towns" There are literally zero town jobs in RDR2 what are you talking about? Show me where you can do nightwatch jobs. " the health system was seemingly identical, i don't see how less tonics is a good thing, if its faster at all its was unnoticeable to me. " In RDR1 your health system is the screen and the more red it gets the closer you are to death, and it takes a short while to recover your health. In RDR2 you have a health bar (a circle) that can only be refilled with tonics because the recovery is so slow that it takes real life minutes for health to go back to full on its own. The problem with tonics is that if you have hundreds of them you literally cannot die. You can just keep chugging tonics with no repecussions. I hope I dont need to explain to you why thats bad game design. You didn't make a signle good argument and yet you are convinced RDR2 is the better game while using arguments that were fundamentally wrong. You need to actually think while you play because right now you seem like a brainless fanboy.
@@Pedro_Le_Chef ah a fanboy I see. Yes it better for your character to sway and such it makes the shooting seem more realistic especially when your taking fire. Talk about bullets sponges, have you even used the cattlemen in the original? It sounds so much worse, the effects for guns aren’t even close and it can take 4-5 shots to take down a single enemy. The gun was barely usable in the first one, but in the second one all guns can be used even to the end game and the cattlemen doesn’t feel like your shooting a BB gun. There are more bullet sponge enemies in 1 that I remember than any in 2. There aren’t unlimited bounties in 1 your wrong. False there are scripted one time events and random events that repeatedly occur even more so than the first game. Have you even played the second one? The first game had about 3-5 maybe more random events that repeatedly occurred while the second game has at least 2x that many. Maybe pick it up and give it a try little feller. Your video is no where to be found and no I won’t take your word for it. They seem identical with better animations for the second game. Even the executions and gore are better in the second one. Ah yes I forgot about those, they were some of the worst parts about the game, arm wrestling and horse shoe were terribly boring thankfully they got rid of it and added fishing. Which is far superior. While the unique abilities that were givin by clothing in one were nice they thankfully added much more customization . Clothing looks far superior in the second game and the customization puts the first games clothing options to shame. Surely i don’t have to tell you why player choice is a good part of a game do I? If there were less it was hard to notice, duels are rare in both and it made no big difference to me. One less gang hideout with at least 4 times more in game events. The gangs were also more memorable in the second one while the first one was just forgettable at best. So your problem is you can’t spam the same 7 hideouts for over an hour? Maybe go touch grass buddy. Yes there is an outlaw town in the second one as well. Still a cool scripted event that makes the world feel more alive which the first game does not have. I mean jobs you can take in towns, night watch isn’t in the game it was replaced with camp jobs and ranch jobs. So this is an odd complaint, just go do those cano and ranch jobs. So the health system is pretty much identical just as I said, you can still use the screen for and indication of how low health is getting, and I barely used tonics throughout the game. It’s nearly impossible to die in either one anyways, so again odd complaint. It doesn’t make it impossible to die just very hard to die. You can even fight off people chugging tonics online without using any yourself. So, your upset that the shooting is harder, but you get more tonics? Are you upset it’s too hard or too easy for you? Really hard to tell. You didn’t make a single good argument and yet your convinced the game with the worse story, less content, and less activities is better? Very odd take, just admit it’s nostalgia. You even skipped over a good portion of what I said and were flat out wrong about others. I’m sorry you can’t spam the same 7 hideouts and play arm wrestling all day anymore, truly sad times. My heart aches for you friend. The first game did do something better, but they are few and far between. Maybe at least try playing the second one and try not to let nostalgia cloud your judgement, at this point it’s hard to tell if you’ve even beat it.
The thing I missed most about RDR1 was that when you were put in jail or used a pardon, the game would list off all the crimes you committed, like 38 counts of horse theft lol
I have 6 hours in rd2 and don't really understand the horse riding system but to my knowledge you have continually tap at an annoying rate to go full speed on horses
This reminds me of GTA SA having the feature where your body changes weight depending on you working out and eating. Then in GTA 4 Nico eats but hius wieght doesn't changed in anyway at all and mind you GTA 4 is on the more powerful console.
I love how gunplay is in RDR1, even with Dead Eye shootouts still feel dangerous and bullets hurt for both John and the enemies. In RDR2 Arthur is a frickin Bulletsponge and the shootouts 90% feel too easy even without Dead Eye
RDR1 - Ponchos, Mexico, Baylock, Spaghetti Western atmosphere and UNDEAD NIGHTMARE! 🧟 RDR2 - No ponchos, no Mexico, no Baylock, modern Western atmosphere and no undead nightmare 😪
Dont forget rdr1 fast travel was amazing devs knew players wouldnt wanna mash the A button for 12 minutes straight every time u wanted to go somewhere. U could fast travel to any waypoint u marked and instantly get there.
You can surrender to the law in RDR2 but it has to be before the bullets start flying, while they're pointing guns at you. Not accepting a surrender after the bullets start flying however feels very American law enforcement to me.
Skinning animals was quick and clean, but in RDR2, it's a 30 minute cutscene. There was no gun cleaning, you didn't have to feed your horse, and the gunplay was much faster.
Well, they did try to make the horse feel more important and connected to the player rather than just a mode of transportation and they succeed in it and the gun cleaning part is also a good touch of reality so feels nice, unless if you play the game solely for gunfight like me. In that case after 40 minute gunfight with law, it is truly annoying when the aim suddenly gets horrible because of poor condition of the gun.
In rdr1, If you point a gun at a person and the person opens fire on you, as long as you have not fired any nearby police will immediately kill the other person. I tried this in rdr2 literally in front of the cop and the only time he fired is when I actually hit the person.
@@Heisen_burger-dude But it is fun, and the combat is way more fun than RDR2, you can tank like 10 hits in RDR2 while in RDR1 hardcore you would get shot 3-4 times and die. If RDR2 also had a hardcore mode then it would perhaps be more fun.
I will say one thing I like about RDR2 in regards to the leg shots is that it’s never treated like the NPCs don’t feel anything as you can see them limping around and holding onto their legs depending on the severity of their injuries. It’s still pretty cool imo.
0:29 im glad they changed it tho as much as i love hanging to left or right it was quite slow because just like in gta 4, you need to press the same buttons again... especially if the npc has ridiculous accuracy they put a few bullet while you try to climb
It's weird that they got ready to tell some stories by the stagecoach traveling option, then just cut it and went straight to just letting it not exist at all. Then they totally dropped the ball with John Marston. His face is there, but everything around his face, and I mean starting as soon as his ears are completely Arthur like! If you'll excuse my French. Also, for the shooting the knees thing, I'm pretty sure you can get shot in the leg and still walk. It's pretty accurate because they're limping and can't run when both legs are shot. It's really if you shoot them in the hips they shouldn't walk as when the hip shatters you can't walk at all. But in Rdr2 I don't think it's like that, idk, never tested. That Rdr2 push thing is only if you run. Now if you walk you push them aside, but if you run you push them over, which means the feature is still in the game. How could you miss a detail like that while making this video? lol
If you think RDR1 had more content, you've never played RDR2. And a video showing 8 things means nothing. RDR2 has a thousand times more content and a thousand times more mechanics than RDR1.
@lechugaconsal8604 then where's liar's dice, horse breaking, horseshoe, night watch, arm wrestling, and cheating at poker? For sure, they give you decent horse customization and lots of crafting options, but it all feels redundant when you realize that you'll never need to break a wild horse or craft much aside from meats. I have played the game, and I have no reason to go back to it if the mission design is even more restrictive than Max Payne 3's.
@@troypowers750 Oh right, a map 4 times bigger, a thousand times more alive and dynamic, with a thousand times more characters, physics mechanics in structures, rocks and the game mapping, dynamic real-time weather, the life that NPCs have and the realistic behavior of animals based on real-life attitudes doesn’t mean anything, right? And the possibility to see how a house is built, how animals and NPCs hunt, water physics, explosion physics, animal and NPC dismemberment, lasso physics, snow and ice physics, weapon, character and horse customization, the possibility to see how characters and NPCs age in the game, doesn’t mean anything either, right? Fighting duels, watching NPCs react in real time to everything independent and dependent on the player, watch the animals react in real time to everything independent and dependent on the player, see the player himself react in real time to everything around him, doesn't count either?
@@troypowers750 And that's without even mentioning the collectibles and their rewards, their mysteries, characters, real-time world changes, and how the player's actions affect both the NPCs and the game map itself.
@@troypowers750 Now, if we talk about actions, yes, there are a couple of mini games in RDR1 that are not in RDR2, but everything else is there and a thousand times superior.
Hanging grab wasn't invented in 1899. It was invented in 1903 by Henry Hanging Grab
Wasn’t it invented around the same time as the backflip? Invented by John Backflip ofcourse
Then explain how GTA 4 has it but GTA 5 doesn't?
Your reality logic dont apply in fictional game.
@@SeriousDragonifythat’s 2008 and 2013
@@chancegaming487 Nope, it's laziness.
Gonna say same with forced to stand to can throw the knife (which RDR didnt have it) as well?
@HendrixTheBunny That's correct! These two Goobers in my reply section don't know anything about history.
In rdr1 you can pay crime witnesses to shut up while in rdr2 you can only threaten or kill them.
Because John isn't a outlaw in a gang anymore, he was working for Ross in rdr1 and couldn't do much crimes.
I'd much rather just threaten someone than give them money
@@jonmovies7353 Yes, that makes sense,but still you can bring havoc upon a town quite literally if you want 😂
@@jonmovies7353yeah but john isn’t a outlaw in the epilogue
And Rob
The thing rdr 1 does so much better than rdr 2 is John's walk. That shits so iconic
Luckily if you’re on PC you can download a mod that makes John walk like he does in rdr1….. 😂
@@lastcat617 JOHN'S WALK IS NOT EVEN HIS WALK... BECAUSE NPC WALK LIKE JOHN... PLEASE LOOK AT JOHN'S WALK IN RDR2. SO CONFIDENT
Goofy for a big game like RDR2 though so
but i'm sure it's the same guy in mocap
@@BOLOM7shut up bolom, you’re from a third world country, probably somewhere in India. You hate old games even though you can’t run this game at max on your 1050ti anyway.
And in RDR1 when you massacred a town cops wont spawn infinetly
True!
And in RDR 1 doing side missions as Jack Jack is more sympathetic meanwhile John is cynical for your next comparison you should see what Jack does better than John in RDR 1
I love that tbh I hate infinite enemies in games
RDR2 didn't do that before, they changed something in an update at some point.
I remember killing all the law in Valentine, and once all the law died off, townsfolk would come and try to defend the town, once all of them were killed, that was the end of it.
If this thing was in rdr2 I would have explored the whole map as arthur..
If i'm not mistaken, there was a feature when you could whistle to your horse while running and it will catch up with you allowing you to mount it while running towards your destination. However, in rdr2 trying to do so leads to your horse running slower than you are, so you have to stop and wait for it to approach you. That makes you lose so much time, especially when you want to chase someone... Can't stand it
Happened to me last night I was pissed thinking “how tf am I out running my horse” 😂
Agreed I really can't believe they took that away. I think your horse should be able to do that when you are fully bonded.
Bro I thought I could do this in RDR2 and was so confused why it wasn’t working on my new playthough. I was just misremembering something from RDR1. I felt crazy thank you.
This. That is one of my favorite gameplay features in the first game and it was a hard habit to kick playing RDR2. lol
@@andrewgoode2558 I'm on my 5th playthrough and still haven't kicked the habit.
RDR1 having unlimited Bounty Missions and replayable Gang Hideouts is something that should’ve been ported to RDR2. I feel that after you finish the campaign and all of the bounty missions all of your fancy weapons will just be decoration if you don’t intend to massacre a town after an quick save
I definitely wish rdr2 had some replayable/unlimited content. There are a lot of bounties but I feel like you run out of them pretty quickly if you start actually focusing on them. And I wish there were more stagecoach robberies, you run out of those way too quickly.
It's a double edge sword. On the one hand it's cool to do it forever but on the other hand, they're all the same. RDR2's bounty missions maybe limited but they're all memorable
Yeah. Also for the stagecoaches robberies idve LOVED for that to have been infinitely replayable. Wouldn’t have been hard to implement either. Maybe you could elevate it to designated store robberies or bank/train robberies.
Wouldn’t have to sell so many damm pelts.
@@SpikeJet2736se um certo sistema nemesis de Shadow of War e Mordor não tivesse uma patente, daria para fazer um randomizador muito divertido que não iria repetir as missões.
It gets old. Honestly for me.
In rdr1 you can also go to bank and crack safe in rdr2 you can't
you can in rdr2 if you have the special version
That's only in a quest.
@@DanielSchmuhl-ku6nt hmm could have sworn you could have but ok
@@Kai_Flufftailnope your thinking of the Rhoades side mission with Charles and uncle you can only do once in chapter 3
@PRIMETIMECEO_ yeah I never heard of that before until I saw a video about it earlier today
Don't forget, after you shot their legs, you can run up to the enemy in RDR 1 to get a unique finisher move by tapping the R2 or RT while not aiming. Can be done from the back or front
You can do a similar thing by walking into them and shooting as well
Very useful in Undead Nightmare
Oh you could also sneak up on people and rob them without no one seeing in rdr2 people see no matter how you do it lol 😂
@@lukeanthony2279 how
You can do that in RDR2 as well with every single weapon and they don't even need to be leg shot.
@@FatalShotGG no you cant.
. Pardon Letters
. Mexico
. Infinite Bounties
. Horseshoes
. Liar’s Dice
. Waypoint fast travel
. Horses can be summoned anywhere.
I miss liar's dice so much 😭
@@MrBoomxlI absolutely hated liars dice at first but once I learned how to play it, I never stopped.
Infinite bounties hunting or town bounty?
Hunting@@joshter
@@zw6512 thanks
For me, the sense of atmosphere is better in RDR1, some of the vibes I got from just travelling the world give me chills to this day.
i always say this. graphics never equal atmosphere. it can contribue greatly but it's not the definition. RDR1 even with it's aged graphics pack so much atmosphere, along with the soundtrack, it's so nice
Leg shot really bothers me I want a game with cool combat but I can shoot a person 20 times in the leg and they would still get up
use mods
BUT YOU CAN SEE THEM GRAB THEIR LEGS WHILE SHOOTING IN RDR2
@@YoupTH-cam I’m on Xbox
@@BOLOM7 it doesn’t matter they all have the same get up animation. It’s a weird to see someone shot in the leg and get up like nothing happened
@@Mr_guy99I wonder why they removed that feature in RDR2 if it was in the first game. I never even noticed untill this video, but just to know about this downgrade is dissapointing.
RDR 1 also has a feature that tells you where the train is, so you can at least follow it if you want to travel on the roof. The duelling is better too.
Rdr2 does aswell, it just doesn’t always show for some reason
@@mikeyb0121 I don’t think I’ve ever seen it. I was playing it yesterday and I wanted to do a train robbery for the 100 % completion and I couldn’t see it anywhere.
All we had to do was to follow the damn train John
Dueling was easier in the first. In the second, you make one mistake & it’s over 😂
@@YMining We need MONEY
You could skin your horse and even dogs in RDR1 but not in RDR2
💀
Bro that's crazy.💀☠️
It's a good thing that they removed this feature to be honest.
U can skin dogs in rdr2 I’ve done it
@@BestBelieve77you monster
@@foxlandrie8816
😂😂😂
2:45 Bro thinks he is john Marston
Rdr1 : Spaghetti Western .
Rdr2 : Quentin Tarantino type western.
Both great in their own ways.
But he made spaghetti westerns also if I'm not mistaken. Almost made his own genre of it. Thoughts?
@@RAGABINGA, Tarantino’s westerns have Spaghetti elements because one of his biggest influences is Sergio Leone, the father of the Spaghetti Western.
@@jahimuddin2306 Rings a bell to me. I watched a documentary (?) on QT, and that's why this peaked my curiosity.
And thats a critical reason why the first game is superior
The missing jobs and activities is the biggest downgrade in my opinion. 2 has a beautiful world but there’s not a lot to do outside of hunting that’s not a scripted linear thing.
I think they would have added it if they had more time. Believe it or not, they weren't ready, which doesn't show all that much. But really, the way you make money in Rdr2 is robbing people and trains, then you can replace people robbing with hunting and fishing if you're high honor. You could already rob a train in Rdr1 though and in both they still gave you a lot of money. Now fishing? I love fishing, I'm so glad they added that!
It just would have been nice for some RNG missions to do so you can make more honest money as high honor, I never thought RNG jobs were bad as long as they did it right.
Youre playing as an outlaw.
Both dont match in game.
In RDR does because John is off the lawmen's list.
@@SeriousDragonify The gang literally gets deputized. Some night watch missions and random bounties would be fine
I don't agree with that "lack of time" or "you are a gang member" bs. Current technology already allows games to get updated, patched, as many times as necessary.
I believe rockstar didn't make an investment on the repeatable jobs and post history playability in RDR2, because in fact they did make the content, but they would rather put it on RDR Online, as it's more fit for it and also they believed it would be a success like GTA online.
And even the hunting gets tedious FAST, if not frustrating, even. I don't think I hate anything in that game more than going for the damned satchel upgrades.
I like the fishing, though. Fishing is nice.
I mostly miss the ambience tune that played all the time in RDR1. It adds alot to the vibe compared to RDR2.
And RDR1 still hat unique cool themes in missions. It just had tunes beside that.
Yeah I felt like rdr1 was way cooler
And rdr2 more Relastic
RDR one was western film. RDR two was a lifestyle.
@@stimswwolf7867No. RDR1 was a Spaghetti Western, RDR2 was more like a phylosphic deep Western
A what?
@@leaks2.073 charchaters were deep sure 👌
Traveling in real time on stage coaches is one of my favorite features in RDR1 cuz you can continually SCREAM at the driver to speed up and slow down
😂
It's important to note that RDR1 used a lot of assets from GTA 4 and RDR2 used a lot of assets from GTA 5
No, not really
@@YellowBriefs yes it is
rdr1 has that drunk animation and climbing object transtion by hands detail and its present in gta 4 and the reason rdr2 didnt had these details because gta v didnt had that details either because of optimizations and some other shit
all i am saying,
rdr2 is made up by gta v while rdr1 is made up by gta 4
and rdr1 didnt had the pc port because gta 4 optimization is shit and rdr1 used assets from gta 4 and rdr1 would have shit optimization and that is the reason why rockstar id still wokring on rdr1 pc port
@@BlackSmith6969 that's because they both share the same version of Euphoria, they're not "assets"
examples?
@@YellowBriefs Look at RDR 2's drunk animation and tell me they didn't rip that off of GTA V.
It's literally the exact same.
And they actually gave Jack a new face and hair in rdr1, while in rdr2 they just changed the face of Arthur's TB body and hair color for John.
Huh?
@Emir-i9qJohn is Arthur 2.o in the epilouge
@@CommunityFanJohn is Arthur 2.o in the epilouge
It’s just realism bro he had to lie low 🤡
Funnily enough, that wasn't always the case. John used to have his own body. But some patch, for some reason, changed that.
Very underrated, I loved seeing someone actually repping rdr1 instead of meat riding rdr2
Rdr1 is a superior game. 100% main game + undead nightmare (though the dlc is a bit of a dull fetch quest fest) almost fully on my own.
Rdr2? Fucking 92%, man, i can’t stand this shit anymore.
I also like it how you actually control your horse while following someone while doing missions in Rdr1, while in the second you can’t do shit without your stead going nuts. Why not just make it a cutscene or make the long rides skippable? There’s plenty of story missions in THE FIRST game where you can skip the rides (mostly in Mexico).
Honestly, Rdr2 feels like the worst decisions from the first one multiplied by several digits. No improvements in design at all: why did they force those awful “survival” mechanics is beyond me - it’s a huge ass game as it is, why make it even more tedious?
@@Fireok73 honestly, the only thing rdr2 does better is the environmental storytelling. I honestly enjoy it a lot and wish rdr1 had more. But I agree with a lot of what you’re saying. I also hate the horses in rdr2, because when you call for them, they just walk away for some reason, and always run away. I have right now 1191 hours on rdr2 and I still honestly hate the horses
@@PRIMETIMECEO_ nah, that’s the crappy AI, we have stuff like Ray tracing today, yet npcs are still a glitchy mess
Rdr1 has a much better story
Chronically online cels will call it meat riding if they ever see someone like something
RDR1 > RDR2 for me. But both insane good games
I have rdr2 as my favorite, but yeah both games are great..
Nightime felt more dark and spooky in the first one
It did! And, if I recall, music would also slightly change at night. Or it's just that the music in RDR 1 fit day and night so seemlessly. Like the whistling.
Not enough whistle in 2!
Except the swamp in RDR2 . Alligators and nightfolks are scary
No way dude nighttime is spooky af in Roanoke and Bayou
@Bycekko Don't the nightfolk disappear after awhile? Like I had I think 3 or 4 different encounters with then after that last one where you're defending that swamp house home whatever I never had another encounter with them again
Yeah they do but there's also the ghost in the swamp which adds to the scariness@@41Brother2
Here is 2 things rdr1 also does better then rdr2
First:When using Stagecoach in rdr1 you can tell them to drive you to a custom marker you placed in rdr2 you can drive olny to towns
Second: you can rob a bank in rdr1 whenever you feel like it meanwhile in rdr2 you do that olny in mission which you can do once unless you download a mod
In RDR , combat feels good without having to mod the game
The combat is shit lmao. Combat in almost every Rockstar game is shit in both gunplay and hand to hand. Only exception is GTA 4 for hand to hand, actual gunplay is garbage. What even is the point of dead eye when the game literally aims for you in the first place.
That's savage
RDR2's combat feels really clunky sometimes, and great on others. It's weird.
RDR2s physics are still downgraded. RDR2 with the euphoria tuning from RDR1 would be a dream.
The combat was BS garbage. Cops shoot you through walls with a pistol from miles away while on a horse or running or not even facing you. Not much better in 2 but at least walls work.
Rdr1 was peak, yall remember online mode?
Still finding good sized lobbies on PS3.
I remember having so much fun with the zombie survival mode
The online in RDR1 was better. All the characters looked realistic.
@@Flipdodge392my god really
@@randyandy2809 💯
Funny cuz when u shoot them in the neck they hold it while it’s bleeding and it’s realistic but in the legs they stand back up and not hold anything
Most people tend to die from getting shot at necks
@@chancegaming487 and most people goes limp the moment their body parts used for walking gets put a lead into
I loved rdr1 color palette, it feels like a spaghetti western
I had no idea that you could surrender by holstering your weapon in rdr1 😂
You can also surrender in 2 as well you have to go like you going to talk to them there should be a i surrender button
Because you chose violance always haha
6:49 if you kinda jog a bit you can push them so jog into them then start walking
It makes no sense that we can kick doors in RDR2 and them not open. It would’ve been so badass to be kickin down doors and shit, but no, we only get to do it for a single mission.
This is so disappointing 😢 I want a game that everything is destructible like crashing into a building damaged the building and carage and horses are very heavy they can crash into a house and wind up inside it that be awesome graphics lol 😂
When they introduced kicking down doors, I thought that was the thing that you would actually use often, but you only ever use it in scripted scenarios
there are actually a couple of doors in the free roam that you gotta kick for it to open, like the house near Valentine/Dakota River with the two dead children inside, but they are so few in the game that the feature is quite useless
@@lukeanthony2279gta 6
Both games are a masterpiece rdr1 has the best western ragdolls but rdr2 is more realistic
It’s not lol
Spamming deadeye
Tonics
Not having to do any of the things the game tells you to do like
Eating
Drinking
Sleeping
Feeding your camp
Your horse
Cleaning your guns
Etc
Isn’t realistic rdr2 is unrealistic as hell
There’s good details but the gameplay is unrealistic
@@DeadX2Compared to rdr1 it's realistic as hell but it's still a game at the end of the day. If they forced these mechanics in a realistic way you'd be whining about that aswell. Realistic doesn't necessarily mean better but most agree it was a welcome immersive addition.
@@DeadX2you didn't prove your point. How does this make rdr1 more realistic than rdr2.
@@outlawmorgan1853Nothing in RDR2 will top the realism of having risk in combat like in RDR1. You can actually die in a few shots in the first game and only have a few tonics.
In RDR2 you have 100 tonics and can take 20 shots before dying. If there's zero risk, how can it ever be realistic? Eating, bathing and all that are just gimmicks.
@@Pedro_Le_Chef The same game where you can sprint infinitly and fire and reload rifles with one hand??The same game where all the revolvers and rifles can be fired without cocking and somehow have fully automatic pistols in 1911? The same game where you can never get knocked out in that goofy hand to hand combat? I get what you mean about taking multiple shots in rdr2 but in rdr1 John instantly dies as soon as water reaches necklevel, both can be ridiculous at times. Overall rdr2 is more realistic but once again that doesn't mean better. I can definitely see why some might find rdr1 gameplay to be more fun than rdr2s.
Bro the rag doll physics in RDR 1 were so funnnn and Undead Nightmare is lowkey the best DLC I’ve ever played in my life
Remember in RDR 1 and other Rockstar games where you would do missions for all kinds of characters, and not just people in your camp?
Those characters also felt way more fleshed out and I liked them more than I did in 2. Like why do some of the characters like Bill and Javier feel so less important than they should? I hardly recall them having missions.
There's a lot of side missions you can do for other people in red dead 2 what
@@Verm0uth07 Have you played a Rockstar game other than RDR2?
@@chrisidoo just type out your point because I don't get it.
@@Verm0uth07 I didn’t mean side missions. I meant main missions.
RDR1 embodies the last gen game making, where almost every game wanted to be good, not just mediocre and buyable. Look at Skyrim, Dishonored, GTA4 and many more compared to what we get now, one good game for the year, which also makes the GOTY show boring when there is barely any competition. Also about the ledge climbing, they could have added missions and places where you need to climb a bit, either for stealth or gaining a shooting advantage, but Rockstar said "nah no one uses it" and removed it altogether. Solved with the wrong solution to the problem they made themselves.
Like AC black flag and Watch Dogs 1
gta 4 is a superior game to gta 5 in just about every way besides graphically and even that is debatable if you're judging off the atmosphere and not the realism
Skyrim is a terrible game to use. That game was just about as lazy as Fallout 3. I wish we were back in an era where Bethesda could hide their bullshit just a tad bit better and the only things we had to worry about was Emil's laziness and the poor implementation of dragons.
RDR2 is by no mean mediocre lol
@troypowers750 fallout 3 had an amazing environment. It's just nobody ever notices the vast details they put in. With the small amount of assets it's easy to see everything as similar which was one of thier big problems.
I still miss the drunk physics from rdr and gta4. Gtav and rdr2 disappointed me with no ragdoll. Hope it comes back for gta6
Its not just the legshots, the whole use of the euphoria engine was impressive and far ahead in RDR1 compared to RDR2. The reason for the huge euphoria downgrade in GTA5 and RDR2 is, that this tech isnt used as a main feature anymore...
Can we atleast have death animations in GTA 6? Like have a little death animation play before actual ragdoll?
@@random_content8840 No because R* dont care about that anymore and people will eat it anyway...
@@random_content8840 There is no need for the developement of a new euphoria tuning. R* just need to recycle the already existing tuning from Max Payne 3. Would fit perfect.
The reality is, that R* will develope a new toned down euphoria tuning which again will kill all the fun of physical NPC interaction.
The theater in armadillo in rdr2 is already textured and furnished but sadly not accessible
I didn't realise the not-pushing people thing. It's one of the first things i discovered and that i completely loved about GTA IV. It was a technical revolution, for me.
Other things:
- In RDR1 the challenges are actually immersive and fun. You feel you cannot NOT do them.
- In RDR1 the stranger missions felt like more complementary to the THEME of the main story. It was not just random encounters with bizarre characters. They expanded on the philosophical ideas of the wild west and the presence of death and the dark fate. In RDR2 the most central secondary missions (that are not even "stranger missions) are the Strauss missions, which expanded on the idea of moral dilemmas of the main character.
1:26 I never expected anything like this. Suddenly, I laughed so hard when that teleport sound came 😂😂😂
Same.
RDR1 IS PRETTY MUCH LIKE GTA4 I CAN THEY THE SAME MECHANICS
No it isn't lmao. Where are they similar? Being able to hang from ledges is the closest they come. Horses and cars are not the same, dynamite and RPGs are not the same, a developing frontier and a giant city is not the same, frontier lawmen and LCPD officers are not the same, repeaters and automatic rifles are not the same, I don't see what you mean.
Removing euphoria physics after drinking in rdr 2 is such a shame
Devs were more focused on New Hanover, Grizzlies, northern part of West Elizabeth and Lemoyne, so thats why New Austin feels so empty (they also have been planning on adding Mexico in RDR2 but they thought that the game is "already big enough")
I mean it kinda is because it bigger than a bunch of games
Why do you “make up things” ?
that doesn't give them an excuse to make the epilogue feel like ass
I just realized the other day you can actually walk on foot across the map it’s smaller than it looks I lost my horse and walked a lot I actually passed the town I was walking to and didn’t notice I way passed it being on foot I miss judged on how long I should walk for I was even playing around lol 😂 it’s doable to walk lol 😂
@@lukeanthony2279 John after he got shot off the train
being able to kick down doors or break locks was such a missed opportunity in rdr2. would've been so cool to break into homes through windows or doors in the middle of the night and raid npcs
The freedom, ambience, setting, and John made this game special. The bandana had a useful worth. Ambience felt natural, fitting, but can't explain on how well it fits the game. John Marston and John Rambo are my heroes. Bad past and try to bring positivity for their future, but trouble keeps coming. They're inspiring and motivational through my life. And John marston should be considered a hero with all the John's.
in rdr1 if you couldnt pay your bounty when you get arrested the police would send you on a Bounty Hunter mission.
0:10 the hanging grab and moving around hanging is a feature from gta 4.
Too many features was removed from both GTA 4 and RDR1 to GTA 5 and RDR2 which is kinda sad
These were all small features, but the euphoria downgrade hit me hard
You quote a lot of useless things... But forgot about the bounty system who allows you to corrupt the police, the graces letters, the fact that the prices of animals parts change dependind of the region, buying properties, the fact you can skin horses, the "little jobs" you can do, totally missing in RDR2, the ability of cheating in a poker game, the possibility of robbing banks..
Dude seriously...
With all the things I just quoted, all was coming to you is the fact that when you walk you can't push the npc ? Come on..
Buying properties doesn't do much anyway.
No need to be an arse about it
well godamm, if you are so pissed about it, make your own list
When you realise a video, I think its normal to work a little your subject !
I am sorry, but I just losted my time watching a video talking about useless things
Agreed, hanging on ledge was only ever used once during the main missions.
You can also push npc in rdr2, you just have to sprint
and Duel is better in RDR 1
In rdr1, you can knock people out in fistfights, in rdr2 they just die
It's hilarious in RDR 1 too. When the NPC finally wakes up from the knock out, they come running at you once again. They refuse to quit, no matter how many times you punch their lights out. Makes me laugh every time.
The interiors aren’t open because the one in the saloon was the room for rdr1 because you couldn’t camp outdoors and for the other stores it’s because the town has cholera in Rdr2
I recently finished rdr2 and am just exploring and doing random events now. Can’t wait to try rdr1!
2:22 that was a cool timing
Ohh yeahh
The only critical feature i see there is the one i was highly disapointed with when i played RDR2 : Damages location. Being able to disable NPCs by shooting on their knees, feet, hands was realistic af and i really don't understand why rockstar haven't implemented it in RDR2.
6:27 please just run at him
Yes but you can't push by walking. I showed that.
@@swiftycrimson I know it just the way you made it look like it wasn’t even possible that’s all
@@Retro_ruff he was walking, what did you want ?
I like almost everything in RDR1 more than in RDR2. Not to say RDR2 is a bad game I just prefer RDR1
Mostly because of nostalgia
@@chancegaming487mostly because it's a much better game.
Better shooting, better ragdolls, infinite bounties, random events, duels, more mini games, better music, better outfits with cool attributes, more gang hideouts, jobs in towns, better health system, less tonics, faster deadeye
@@Pedro_Le_Chef shooting and guns felt better in 2, the bounties were disappointing but i don't thin 1 had ultimate bounties, there are random events in 2, ragdolls do not seem to be better and the new animation that come with RDR 2 are better than in 1, same amount of mini games and RDR 2 has better mini games, music didn't seem much if any better at all, outfits were far better in RDR 2 with more customization and far more options, there were duels in RDR 2, there was one less gang hideout but gangs can appear in towns and i don't recall that happening in 1 at all, they can also randomly appear at your camp to wake you and threaten you, not sure what you mean by this because there were jobs in towns, the health system was seemingly identical, i don't see how less tonics is a good thing, if its faster at all its was unnoticeable to me.
RDR 2 is a much better game, better story, better gun play, better customization, better hunting, better gangs, better map, better horses, better guns, better random events.
@@TmanRock9 " shooting and guns felt better in 2"
No they don't. That's simply false and can be easily proven by playing both games without auto aim on a controller. RDR1 doesn't have aiming sway, reticle bloom or bullet sponge enemies.
"the bounties were disappointing but i don't thin 1 had ultimate bounties"
lol what's ultimate bounties"?
"there are random events in 2"
No here aren't. There are scripted events that play out once and then never repeat themselves, making the world feel empty after you finish the scripted events. At this point I know i am arguing with a fanboy that doesnt even understand the game they are fanboying over.
"ragdolls do not seem to be better and the new animation that come with RDR 2 are better than in 1"
You mean ragdolls dont seem to be better in RDR2? I agree. Yes RDR2 has better animations, but i am talking about ragdoll physics, not animations. If you mean ragdolls don't seem better in RDr1 the nyou are simply mistaken. I have a video showing all the programmed positions the bodies are made to fall into in RDR2.
"same amount of mini games and RDR 2 has better mini games"
Same amount of mini games? Ok, lets count them.
RDR2:Poker, Blackjack, Finger Fillet, Dominoes. Four Minigames
RDR1: Poker, Blackjack, Finger Fillet, Liar's Dice, Horseshoes, Arm Wrestling. Six Minigames. Go back to primary school, you need to relearn basic algebra. Considering that 3/4 of RDR2's miniganmes are the same as RDR1s, you are saying that Dominoes alone is better than Liar's Dice, Horseshoes and Arm Wrestling combined, LOL! I bet you haven't even completed the gambler challenges for the domninoes lmao.
"outfits were far better in RDR 2 with more customization and far more options"
You have more clothing options in RDR2 yet they don't look as personalized or as well fitted as the outfits in RDR1. Just go compare Legend of the West outfit to Legend of the East. In RDR1 outfits gave you special abilities such as more deadeye, being able to be friends with outlaws in gang hideouts, cheating in poker, entering a luxurious hotel room to play high stakes poker etc.
" there were duels in RDR 2"
Yes, very, very few of them, i think 10 in the entire game. it's a complete joke compared to RDR1 where as you get more famous more people want to duel you or if you are low honor family members duel you to avenge their relatives.
"there was one less gang hideout"
One less gang hideout but remember RDR1 world was much smaller so the hideouts were much close to each other, making exploration a lot more fun because you could go from one hideout to the other within a small time frame. In RDR2 hideouts are extremely far apart and take way too long to repopulate. If you want action you basically can only slaughter lawmen.
"but gangs can appear in towns and i don't recall that happening in 1 at all"
HAHAHAHA ok let me dismantle your argument. *YES there are gang members in towns in RDR1* , and you can even shoot them without getting a wanted level. Gang members also play minigames like poker, blackjack and finger fillet in salloons. There is a random event where gang members ride through a town and drag a civillian with a lasso, you can shoot them to free him and gain honor. Not only that, but there's even a town in RDR1 that's exclusively an outlaw settlement where you can shoot people and not even get a wanted level. You are wrong on so many levels its not even funny. Have you EVER played RDR1 because i don't think you even have, at least not in twelve years.
" they can also randomly appear at your camp to wake you and threaten you"
As I said, scripted event. It happens a few times but after you've triggered them all they never repeat themselves.
"not sure what you mean by this because there were jobs in towns"
There are literally zero town jobs in RDR2 what are you talking about? Show me where you can do nightwatch jobs.
" the health system was seemingly identical, i don't see how less tonics is a good thing, if its faster at all its was unnoticeable to me. "
In RDR1 your health system is the screen and the more red it gets the closer you are to death, and it takes a short while to recover your health. In RDR2 you have a health bar (a circle) that can only be refilled with tonics because the recovery is so slow that it takes real life minutes for health to go back to full on its own.
The problem with tonics is that if you have hundreds of them you literally cannot die. You can just keep chugging tonics with no repecussions. I hope I dont need to explain to you why thats bad game design.
You didn't make a signle good argument and yet you are convinced RDR2 is the better game while using arguments that were fundamentally wrong. You need to actually think while you play because right now you seem like a brainless fanboy.
@@Pedro_Le_Chef ah a fanboy I see.
Yes it better for your character to sway and such it makes the shooting seem more realistic especially when your taking fire. Talk about bullets sponges, have you even used the cattlemen in the original? It sounds so much worse, the effects for guns aren’t even close and it can take 4-5 shots to take down a single enemy. The gun was barely usable in the first one, but in the second one all guns can be used even to the end game and the cattlemen doesn’t feel like your shooting a BB gun. There are more bullet sponge enemies in 1 that I remember than any in 2.
There aren’t unlimited bounties in 1 your wrong.
False there are scripted one time events and random events that repeatedly occur even more so than the first game. Have you even played the second one? The first game had about 3-5 maybe more random events that repeatedly occurred while the second game has at least 2x that many. Maybe pick it up and give it a try little feller.
Your video is no where to be found and no I won’t take your word for it. They seem identical with better animations for the second game. Even the executions and gore are better in the second one.
Ah yes I forgot about those, they were some of the worst parts about the game, arm wrestling and horse shoe were terribly boring thankfully they got rid of it and added fishing. Which is far superior.
While the unique abilities that were givin by clothing in one were nice they thankfully added much more customization . Clothing looks far superior in the second game and the customization puts the first games clothing options to shame. Surely i don’t have to tell you why player choice is a good part of a game do I?
If there were less it was hard to notice, duels are rare in both and it made no big difference to me.
One less gang hideout with at least 4 times more in game events. The gangs were also more memorable in the second one while the first one was just forgettable at best. So your problem is you can’t spam the same 7 hideouts for over an hour? Maybe go touch grass buddy. Yes there is an outlaw town in the second one as well.
Still a cool scripted event that makes the world feel more alive which the first game does not have.
I mean jobs you can take in towns, night watch isn’t in the game it was replaced with camp jobs and ranch jobs. So this is an odd complaint, just go do those cano and ranch jobs.
So the health system is pretty much identical just as I said, you can still use the screen for and indication of how low health is getting, and I barely used tonics throughout the game. It’s nearly impossible to die in either one anyways, so again odd complaint. It doesn’t make it impossible to die just very hard to die. You can even fight off people chugging tonics online without using any yourself. So, your upset that the shooting is harder, but you get more tonics? Are you upset it’s too hard or too easy for you? Really hard to tell.
You didn’t make a single good argument and yet your convinced the game with the worse story, less content, and less activities is better? Very odd take, just admit it’s nostalgia. You even skipped over a good portion of what I said and were flat out wrong about others. I’m sorry you can’t spam the same 7 hideouts and play arm wrestling all day anymore, truly sad times. My heart aches for you friend. The first game did do something better, but they are few and far between. Maybe at least try playing the second one and try not to let nostalgia cloud your judgement, at this point it’s hard to tell if you’ve even beat it.
Rdr1 is the better game so it just makes sense lol
The thing I missed most about RDR1 was that when you were put in jail or used a pardon, the game would list off all the crimes you committed, like 38 counts of horse theft lol
Another thing better in Red Dead Redemption 1: horse speed. The horses in Redemption 2 are annoyingly slow
I have 6 hours in rd2 and don't really understand the horse riding system but to my knowledge you have continually tap at an annoying rate to go full speed on horses
The drunk ragdoll physics hurts... that was one of my favorite things to do in RDR1
John's character is better in 1
I'm starting to doubt that RDR2 is the most realistic game.
Rdr1 is miles better than rdr2
Bro is the definition of idiot💀
@@پارسا-ي9لyes you are!
1:50 This feature is cut in final version but dialogues exist in files.
Even Arthur telling coachdriver to go to Tumblweed, Blackwater and Armadillo.
Also John walks like an NPC in red dead 2 for some reason
EDIT:uhhhhhh guys please don’t start a war in the reply section
In red dead 1 is even worse, what are you talking about?
@@tbago8783at least the rd1 version’s got his walk instead of arthur’s
@@Sladamthebabe He has his own walk in rdr2 too, he only walks like arthur in certain areas (2) because a bug, is not a big deal
I actually like the John walk in Rdr 2 better because it seems more natural and not as goofy as he walks in Rdr 1.
HE HAS HE'S OWN WALK STYLE AND IT IS VERY BAD ASS COMPARED TO RDR1
How I see it, red dead revolver had things rdr1 and 2 doesnt have while those 2 also have things the others don’t either. But they’re all amazing tbh
This reminds me of GTA SA having the feature where your body changes weight depending on you working out and eating. Then in GTA 4 Nico eats but hius wieght doesn't changed in anyway at all and mind you GTA 4 is on the more powerful console.
I love how gunplay is in RDR1, even with Dead Eye shootouts still feel dangerous and bullets hurt for both John and the enemies.
In RDR2 Arthur is a frickin Bulletsponge and the shootouts 90% feel too easy even without Dead Eye
RDR1 - Ponchos, Mexico, Baylock, Spaghetti Western atmosphere and UNDEAD NIGHTMARE! 🧟
RDR2 - No ponchos, no Mexico, no Baylock, modern Western atmosphere and no undead nightmare 😪
Rdr1 drunk stumbling with that music just feels so, fun for some reason. Like sterotypical western saloon extra.
0:14 Mister, please help!
0:14 Mister, please help!
@@omegalol that buddy just stolen my house, please you got to help me!
Grass interaction: because of this you could spot predators or prey in the bush without using assist.
So many games have let me down ive never even tried shooting someones legs
you only have 2.54k subscribers? i thought you had like atleats 100k??? very good production quality
Thank you for your compliment :)
I miss liars dice and the near infinite amount of bounty posters.
For the leg shot in rdr2, atleast they limp when they get up so it's not entirely unrealistic
0:05 AC influence.
gta sa was already doing that so no
@@rockymontanagarciamane PoP influence
GTA SA - GTA 4 already had this
@@eldragon57 GTA4 released in 2008 first ac released in 2007. GTA SA released in 2004. PoP released in 2003
Mf did not say climbing was influenced by assassin's creed
Dont forget rdr1 fast travel was amazing devs knew players wouldnt wanna mash the A button for 12 minutes straight every time u wanted to go somewhere. U could fast travel to any waypoint u marked and instantly get there.
Sharpshooter bandolier in RDR2 is 🔥🔥🔥
RDR1 has better gunplay too. For some reason in RDR2 it just feels "off".
I do like that in rd2 you can use revolvers for long range but one could argue that rd1 did it more realistically
You can surrender to the law in RDR2 but it has to be before the bullets start flying, while they're pointing guns at you. Not accepting a surrender after the bullets start flying however feels very American law enforcement to me.
Rdr will always be superior to rdr2. Ffs, rdr had Undead Nightmare. Rdr2 had Online mode. Cass closed. 😂
maybe learn english before commenting
The interactions in Red Dead redemption 2 while drunk speaking wise is peak
Skinning animals was quick and clean, but in RDR2, it's a 30 minute cutscene. There was no gun cleaning, you didn't have to feed your horse, and the gunplay was much faster.
Well, they did try to make the horse feel more important and connected to the player rather than just a mode of transportation and they succeed in it and the gun cleaning part is also a good touch of reality so feels nice, unless if you play the game solely for gunfight like me. In that case after 40 minute gunfight with law, it is truly annoying when the aim suddenly gets horrible because of poor condition of the gun.
It’s more realistic
Yeah, it stinks.
@@BaneStopMotion realism is what made the game extremely boring imo.
@@William11987 I think it makes it better
In rdr1, If you point a gun at a person and the person opens fire on you, as long as you have not fired any nearby police will immediately kill the other person. I tried this in rdr2 literally in front of the cop and the only time he fired is when I actually hit the person.
Feels to me like Rockstar took out a bunch of actual gameplay details in order to add pointless bullshit like realistic horse testicles.
90% of all the features rdr2 doesn't have here are completely pointless.
How can someone be this slow 🤦
@@Heisen_burger-dude i guess fun gameplay is one of them
@@aldrichhf35 calling rdr1 fun is just delusion on crack lmao 😂
I mean, its good for being that old, but now I play it to fall asleep tops
I like how this kind of video make people suddenly universally dumping on rdr2, and I don't think that's the uploader's intention..
@@Heisen_burger-dude But it is fun, and the combat is way more fun than RDR2, you can tank like 10 hits in RDR2 while in RDR1 hardcore you would get shot 3-4 times and die. If RDR2 also had a hardcore mode then it would perhaps be more fun.
I haven't used the stagecoach at all in rdr 2. Just as easy to wrise off a little bit, set up camp quick and travel that way.
The biggest one is, Rdr1 john is better rdr 2 john
Not even a debate lol
It's literally the same guy.
I will say one thing I like about RDR2 in regards to the leg shots is that it’s never treated like the NPCs don’t feel anything as you can see them limping around and holding onto their legs depending on the severity of their injuries. It’s still pretty cool imo.
0:29 im glad they changed it tho as much as i love hanging to left or right it was quite slow because just like in gta 4, you need to press the same buttons again... especially if the npc has ridiculous accuracy they put a few bullet while you try to climb
Gambling was better in rdr1 too. More games and higher stakes. I hate how they removed liar's dice in rdr2
BRIBE THE LAW MEN IS ALSO GOOD
Although I personally do prefer Red Dead 2, Rdr1 is also really good. Both games are awesome in their own ways.
It's weird that they got ready to tell some stories by the stagecoach traveling option, then just cut it and went straight to just letting it not exist at all. Then they totally dropped the ball with John Marston. His face is there, but everything around his face, and I mean starting as soon as his ears are completely Arthur like! If you'll excuse my French.
Also, for the shooting the knees thing, I'm pretty sure you can get shot in the leg and still walk. It's pretty accurate because they're limping and can't run when both legs are shot. It's really if you shoot them in the hips they shouldn't walk as when the hip shatters you can't walk at all. But in Rdr2 I don't think it's like that, idk, never tested.
That Rdr2 push thing is only if you run. Now if you walk you push them aside, but if you run you push them over, which means the feature is still in the game. How could you miss a detail like that while making this video? lol
bro they are CLEARLY LIMPING in RDR2 when shot in the leg.
RDR2 feels more railroaded and less experimental. I actually feel that it's more tedious to play than RDR1. At least RDR1 had more content.
If you think RDR1 had more content, you've never played RDR2. And a video showing 8 things means nothing. RDR2 has a thousand times more content and a thousand times more mechanics than RDR1.
@lechugaconsal8604 then where's liar's dice, horse breaking, horseshoe, night watch, arm wrestling, and cheating at poker? For sure, they give you decent horse customization and lots of crafting options, but it all feels redundant when you realize that you'll never need to break a wild horse or craft much aside from meats. I have played the game, and I have no reason to go back to it if the mission design is even more restrictive than Max Payne 3's.
@@troypowers750 Oh right, a map 4 times bigger, a thousand times more alive and dynamic, with a thousand times more characters, physics mechanics in structures, rocks and the game mapping, dynamic real-time weather, the life that NPCs have and the realistic behavior of animals based on real-life attitudes doesn’t mean anything, right? And the possibility to see how a house is built, how animals and NPCs hunt, water physics, explosion physics, animal and NPC dismemberment, lasso physics, snow and ice physics, weapon, character and horse customization, the possibility to see how characters and NPCs age in the game, doesn’t mean anything either, right? Fighting duels, watching NPCs react in real time to everything independent and dependent on the player, watch the animals react in real time to everything independent and dependent on the player, see the player himself react in real time to everything around him, doesn't count either?
@@troypowers750 And that's without even mentioning the collectibles and their rewards, their mysteries, characters, real-time world changes, and how the player's actions affect both the NPCs and the game map itself.
@@troypowers750 Now, if we talk about actions, yes, there are a couple of mini games in RDR1 that are not in RDR2, but everything else is there and a thousand times superior.
when an npc gets shot up enough in rdr1 they actually try to crawl away
rdr 1 is gta 4 in wild west