Wow, even with the lack of conditions it seems you are trying to keep in high spirits, which is all that counts. Looking forward to the footage from today's dive!
@@freedivepassion9498 About the theory, at depth hydrostatic pressure helps push blood away from the limbs making them work anaerobically. How do people do so long pool swims 4-5 mins when they don't even have pressure help with vasoconstriction nor high intensity to activate the "2" type fibers ?
Dear Harry, good point of the muscle Type2 training. You indeed can read this thing in a book (assuming you know reading ;). Dr. Jaap Verbaas a collegue recently published the book "longer and deeper" an he exactly mentioning the training and the benefits of the non O2 consuming muscles types. He also recomments food supplements to even enhence this effect. Strongly recommended. tip: using from amazon you manage to read it 4free for a month, at least in my case. so long.
Hey, I read Jaap's book. But you have to understand that he isn't an authority on freediving. He used common sense and a basic understanding of freediving to make some hypothesis. What is really happening is still something we can only guess at. For now, the combo of theory, experience and trial and error on an individual level is the only thing I trust.
@@freedivepassion9498 why he's not an authority on freediving, that's a bit presumptuous to say. He writes books and dives and writes about it like you do. Maybe he just forgot not to quote you, so I can check back. What he writes is partly supported by scientific publications. You are right that he publishes few key figures from his training book, that's what I missed. From there you do not differ too much in the way you publish.
Wait. So there are two types of muscle fibers - areobic and anaerobic? I always thought that I should train sprints (like real running sprints) because they are anaerobic exercises and they prepare my legs for using muscles without oxygen. But it's something else, I should for example jog or bike stationary, but on breath hold? This will train my areobic fibres to work without oxygen and that's what I need? And sprinting (running) will help me only with sprinting underwater?
Not quite. Read up about type 1 and 2 muscle fibres. One is used for aerobic exercise the other for anaerobic. We all have different ratios of type 1 and 2, but with training we can change that ratio. Ideally we can focus on building as much type 2 as possible so we can dives faster and consume less O². Intervals are a great way to do this, also weight training works very well. Thanks for following
Harry, there is more than 1 kind of type 2 fiber. You have type 2a and type 2b. Both predominantly use the anaerobic pathway. The one key difference is that 2a muscle fibers also use aerobic metabolic pathways to a lesser degree. Think of them as a hybrid. Type 2b is purely anaerobic and can only be activated either during a max effort sprint, very explosive plyometrics. It is more likely that the increase in speed was the tipping point at which you crossed over from using 2a fibers and transitioned into more 2b fibers. This could explain and clarify your theory on O2 consumption and muscle fibers.
Thanks for sharing. Could it be that increasing speed you are actually more efficient? Maybe it is not only about the muscle type you are using but also about how much of certain type you have. Maybe depending on your muscle type percentage you are more efficient going faster. Going faster means also less time. How many seconds did you actually gain between the two 88 meters dive?
I'm thinking the same sort of things, the majority of my training should result in me having a higher % of type 2 muscle fibers. The other thing is less dive time means less time to consume O². We are thinking that peripheral vasoconstriction limits O² consumption, anything above that is anaerobic, so the more time that you are swimming the more O2 you consume. I saved about 15 seconds by speeding up. Some things will become clear when I increase depth to the point when I'm doing the equivalent dive time as before. Let's wait and see
Progression and keeping it fun is the best payback!
Yes, we have to enjoy the small things
Wow, even with the lack of conditions it seems you are trying to keep in high spirits, which is all that counts. Looking forward to the footage from today's dive!
Thanks mate, all we can do is make the most of the situation we are in
Patience Harry and just keep doing what your doing and the hole will open before you know it ! Stay safe and can't wait to see you dive strong soon.
Thank you so much for the support
@@freedivepassion9498 About the theory, at depth hydrostatic pressure helps push blood away from the limbs making them work anaerobically. How do people do so long pool swims 4-5 mins when they don't even have pressure help with vasoconstriction nor high intensity to activate the "2" type fibers ?
Interesting insight thanks 👍🏻
Let's go champ! Keep up the good training and the 3 figures will happen sooner than later 😉
Thanks for the encouragement! I am grateful for your support
Thanks, Harry!
Dear Harry, good point of the muscle Type2 training. You indeed can read this thing in a book (assuming you know reading ;). Dr. Jaap Verbaas a collegue recently published the book "longer and deeper" an he exactly mentioning the training and the benefits of the non O2 consuming muscles types. He also recomments food supplements to even enhence this effect. Strongly recommended. tip: using from amazon you manage to read it 4free for a month, at least in my case. so long.
Hey, I read Jaap's book. But you have to understand that he isn't an authority on freediving. He used common sense and a basic understanding of freediving to make some hypothesis.
What is really happening is still something we can only guess at.
For now, the combo of theory, experience and trial and error on an individual level is the only thing I trust.
Interesting. Can you name the supplements?
@@freedivepassion9498 why he's not an authority on freediving, that's a bit presumptuous to say. He writes books and dives and writes about it like you do. Maybe he just forgot not to quote you, so I can check back. What he writes is partly supported by scientific publications. You are right that he publishes few key figures from his training book, that's what I missed. From there you do not differ too much in the way you publish.
@@galloyeah You might read the book. He says that a creatine diet positively influences the non-oxygen consuming power supply.
Wait. So there are two types of muscle fibers - areobic and anaerobic? I always thought that I should train sprints (like real running sprints) because they are anaerobic exercises and they prepare my legs for using muscles without oxygen. But it's something else, I should for example jog or bike stationary, but on breath hold? This will train my areobic fibres to work without oxygen and that's what I need? And sprinting (running) will help me only with sprinting underwater?
Btw you're awesome and I love you, keep up the great work!
Not quite. Read up about type 1 and 2 muscle fibres. One is used for aerobic exercise the other for anaerobic. We all have different ratios of type 1 and 2, but with training we can change that ratio. Ideally we can focus on building as much type 2 as possible so we can dives faster and consume less O².
Intervals are a great way to do this, also weight training works very well.
Thanks for following
Harry, there is more than 1 kind of type 2 fiber. You have type 2a and type 2b. Both predominantly use the anaerobic pathway. The one key difference is that 2a muscle fibers also use aerobic metabolic pathways to a lesser degree. Think of them as a hybrid. Type 2b is purely anaerobic and can only be activated either during a max effort sprint, very explosive plyometrics. It is more likely that the increase in speed was the tipping point at which you crossed over from using 2a fibers and transitioned into more 2b fibers.
This could explain and clarify your theory on O2 consumption and muscle fibers.
Thanks for the clarification
Thanks for sharing. Could it be that increasing speed you are actually more efficient? Maybe it is not only about the muscle type you are using but also about how much of certain type you have. Maybe depending on your muscle type percentage you are more efficient going faster. Going faster means also less time. How many seconds did you actually gain between the two 88 meters dive?
I'm thinking the same sort of things, the majority of my training should result in me having a higher % of type 2 muscle fibers.
The other thing is less dive time means less time to consume O². We are thinking that peripheral vasoconstriction limits O² consumption, anything above that is anaerobic, so the more time that you are swimming the more O2 you consume.
I saved about 15 seconds by speeding up.
Some things will become clear when I increase depth to the point when I'm doing the equivalent dive time as before.
Let's wait and see