When an NBA Team Ruins Every Star They Get
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 เม.ย. 2023
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The Timberwolves don’t even look competitive after making a gigantic trade for Rudy Gobert. It’s not surprising because that franchise has been a mess for years but this is a look at why they can’t succeed with any young star and if Anthony Edwards’ career will suffer. - กีฬา
I dunno what they were thinking with Rudy 😂 every casual fan could of told you how bad that was lol
lol facts
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Bad franchises make bad decisions.
New owners wanted to feel like they were gonna win big this year and probably just looked up basketball reference and thought “he’s good at defense! Go get him Connelley.”
I have no idea wtf they were thinking. Could've gotten Kevin fukin Durant for the price they paid for gobert
Imagine if the jazz send all of minnesotas picks back to them for Anthony edwards 😂
That would be funny as hell
The one utah fan on the planet is tripping in these comments
@@MNPhantom Coming from the joke of North America looooooooool
@@MNPhantom I don’t have a horse in this race but somebody that choicefully resides in Minnesota has no room to talk bad about Utah😂 Minnesota is a frozen hell scape that no NBA player wants to live in
we cool with kris dunn
The Rudy trade is a NBA 2K plug and play trade. Seriously if you add Rudy to last year's roster in 2K the Wolves get real good immediately in simulation and it looks like that was the research the Wolves did to validate getting Rudy and unsurprisingly that's the only place that trade works out in a good way.
If McDaniels was playing they’d be much better . Hope they trade up for Anthony black
Because 2k is simulating it as if the players are all playing their best basketball. When you get a DPOY who isn’t doing what he does best none of that simulation nonsense matters
Hope AE does great in his career
I believe in him. He got the 4th most points in history for a nba player his age. He hates load management. He work very hard. He live up to the hype.
Not in this team lol 😂
not with timberwolf haha
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It’ll be another KG situation I just hope Ant doesn’t waste over half of his career there like Kevin.
I swear, Tim Conelly is a double agent... Or even triple agent... He did favors to Jazz and Nuggets with that Gobert trade...😂
My thoughts as well!
😂😂😂
Quad agent? He gave kuminga and wiggins for dlo 💀
Timberwolves were the Santa Claus of the league this season. Giving gifts to the Lakers,Jazz and Nuggets
@@dylanroth4833 The Paul trade got shut down by the nba cause the nba owned the hornets back then.
Forgot about Kevin Love leaving and winning a ring!
Everyone forgot about Kevin Love.
okay yeah he was on a superteam. why do yall act like he went to a team and lead them to a chip
Love has proven to be no better than a solid number 2 in his career. Cleveland was pathetic after LeBron bailed. MN got Wiggins, Bennett, Young and a 1st for Love.
@@DFWMentor so did Wiggins 2nd best at times for gs
@@TheAJHernandez17 yeah, that happens when the #2 is out.... #3 moved up
so basically, every major rookie star the wolves get, when they leave they win a chip
KAT aint winning shit
Kg, Kevin love, wiggs
Zach LaVine hasn't yet, but he's bound to eventually.
@@twincitiestara thx for the reminder, I forgot he played there
@@twincitiestara true but zach was the same year as wiggins
This is why bad teams shouldn’t be rewarded with higher draft picks. It just creates teams that are chronically mismanaged where good prospects go to die
Too bad there's no relegation status in NBA, EPL has it and nobody wants to tank or they get relegated to a lower league.
@@Ketaruz agreed, nba is not a "league", it us an association. Tanking has been killing this sport.
Ehh, sports teams have tanked for 100 years, they just didnt have a name for it till the Astros and 76ers.
@@demonkingbadger6689 tanking is a pr term for losing on purpose. Why bother watching such games
@@Sanderus watching those games is a different topic. Teams tank to get better later on.
I'm a Wolves fan. It hurts so much. I'm only still supporting this team because of Ant.
go away then u bandwagon
I think i will support them forever but maybe not as much as i used to as long as connely is gm, that man ruined last years amazing team. If he does not resign naz reid and trade kat i don't know what he is thinking
@@fabiozundel8507 I think his plan has always been to trade KAT after he signed the extension.
I think most fans will return once Glen Taylor is gone.
you must be pretty happy now
Interesting video, and it's not just bad drafting and bad trades that causes Minnesota problems with winning, it's also the fact Minneapolis isn't a desirable free agent destination for star players in the off-season, especially with their brutal winters.
A a timberwolves fan I agree with all of this. We never winning a chip lol
how can you still be a fan? because you live in minnesota?
@@jyun3102 duh, always will support home team. twolves fans are the most true fans ever cause you know we aint bandwagoning
@kyoko3102 being a loyal fan
@@jyun3102 it’s called not being a bandwagon 🤯
@@bpina2170 shhh new nba fans dont understand what not being a bandwagon is. you will overload his brain if you call it out lol
Edwards is one of the only stars under 21 who's been to the playoffs 2 years in a row. He has vets ilke Mike Conley and Kyle Anderson etc. to guide him and excellent young players like Jaden McDaniels, Naz Reid, Nickeil Alexander Walker and Josh Minott to grow with him. The trade was an overpay but the floor of this team is raised to get Ant to the postseason every year. Ex: even though they had significant injuries, they made it to the playoffs this year. Ant will likely have 7 years of straight playoff experience before he even enters his prime. Not many young stars get that. Doesn't sound like hte team is ruining Ant because they are doing the opposite of prior Wolves rosters - they are trying to win. KAT, Wiggins etc. were surrounded by losing and turnover. This is different. Many young stars are on tanking or rebuilding teams whereas Ant has vets to guide him and consistent playoff experience. That sounds pretty good to me.
THANK YOU!! The Cavs paid the same for Dmitch and got just as far as the wolves. Mavs sent out a shit ton of picks to MISS the playoffs. People dislike Rudy so people think his teams aren’t good. If Rudy a generational talent, no. But the current market says if you want an All-NBA caliber player you’re gonna need 3-5 1st rounders ready(KD, Kawhi, Dame, Dmitch, Rudy, Kyrie) list goes on and on
Love your vids keep it up ❤
Living in MN, the Wolves make me so sad consistently
Hows life in MN? Thinking of moving there.
Cold but summers are fun
@@lordoffaiyum9727 I'm trying to move south because winters suck. If you like the cold or don't mind being mostly indoors for ~5 months a year, it's nice.
What part of Mn? I’m in canby
@@michaelkack Woah - Canby is way out there (had to look it up). I'm just north of the cities. Still close enough to go to several 'Wolves games during the season
I’m from Minnesota and I instantly fucking knew this was about us. I HATE OUR FRONT OFFICE AND MANAGEMENT
Past management has been awful, yes. But I think the important thing to consider is who hired them?... Owner Glen Taylor. Every dark spot in team history has had Taylors signature on it. Connelly was brought in by ARod and Lore. This December is when Taylor hands over the majority interest. Gobert will bounce back next season and finch should get fired after the playoffs.... I expect Towns to be traded right after the draft when he's eligible per the supermax rules of can't be traded for a year after signing the supermax.
I wouldn't expect anything less from the Franchise that literally told Kevin Love he's bad because they can't carry them to the Playoffs lmfao
Love is at best a 3rd or 4th man on a team, lets not get it twisted fam
@@arjjun07 ik, but it still doesn't make sense to treat your current best player like that, when all he did was ask help.
@@kylenunez2820 surprised he didn’t throw tantrums and use his mental health as an excuse to stay relevant like he did when bron was gone
@@arjjun07 tbf, he demanded a trade, which he got
@@arjjun07 Minnesota Love was a beast you casual
wow i forgot giannis won it at 26 damn bro
He was still young
Really enjoying your content lately. Keep it up king
Now you mention it yes when KG got traded he instantly won a chip and Wiggins 2 seasons after lol
also Kevin Love won 2 seasons later as well
why is this a shocker to teams? we traded them to amazing situations for them. we dont talk about us trading lavine do we?
We could Lavine bloomed into a Star but I guess championships are the most flashy topic to talk about
The disrespect to even put Wiggins in a conversation with KG.
Wiggins is a star
As a Lions fan, I’m offended that we can’t even beat a team for this title either…
@@Casn521 and Calvin Johnson, and Matthew Stafford….
I’m actually glad Stafford went and got his ring so we didn’t punish another loyal legend to retire without a ring.
It's tough too because the Wolves live in the large shadow cast by the old Minneapolis/LA Lakers, & KG's number isn't retired still so they don't have good karma on their side
Ey thank the algorithm for bringing me here. Great takes and good delivery. That's a sub
Gonna be a banger 🔥🔥🔥
Gobert has played 2 full seasons, last year's playoffs, the Euro tournament AND this season... With NO time off. Then factor in that Chris Finch is not a defensive minded coach and Rudy has had to learn a new system. He will be a force again next season. Finch will get fired and Towns gets traded before next season.
I’d be shocked if the plan wasn’t always to trade KAT. Wolves have a nearly identical record as last season despite losing all those role players and missing KAT for a majority of the season, but we don’t attribute that at all to the new players and new roles for young players?
@A.M. Hoops I give it to you man, always calling it out as it is. I love it dude, keep it up and you will flourish!
missed an opportunity with that clip of zach lavine saying "f***" under his breath when the camera turned to him getting drafted by the wolves on draft night.
This is one of your best videos yet. I can’t imagine a more well put together clearly communicated video. You just summed up my thoughts perfectly. Even the KAT part. The way you communicated everything really pin’s down the failures of this team, and your comments on KAT specifically were again perfect.
As for the team, I just don’t understand the disconnect between what everyone now sees and decisions at the executive level.
Shout out to Casey. So consistent with providing us with some great basketball content. Thank you for your work sir
Great vid! Hoping the best for kat ant slomo and naz reid 😂
Gotta hope Connelly navigates a KAT trade effectively while developing Jaden McDaniels into the star he can be
Yo, Can you make a video about Nick Nurse getting fired from the Raptors?
Even Love got a chip!!😂
The Conley trade was a smart move.
Bro needs to change his name to PM Hoops
Depends on where you watching from
Crazy how a year before the trade ant literally said in a post game interview nobody scared of gobert
As a Minnesota fan, all I can say is YUP! that is about right.
i know it's gonna be a banger when AM Hoops posts on a Friday yessir
Ant and jaden will continue to grow. Kat will be traded this off season.
Like any team is going to be interested in giving a lot for KAT's contract lol.
Just accept that Minnesota will always be bad.
@@mitchtherevolutionteams trade for big contracts all the time.
AE is is really underrated he can hoop for real
I mean look at the thumbnail and tell me thats not jordan with hair😂
Yeah. I also see this.. I am not sure if they don't know which player to aquire or they just don't know how to manage and develop.. gobert has declined more since he's been with the wolves . He's not that bad in jazz
love you my dude
I remember that Kirilenko was obsess with WOW, that he start to sleep a Lot less and His Stats start to decrease in the nets.
6:43 no way😂😂
Rudy on the Warriors would be scary
The fact that no other player voted for him means he was the best defensive player people won't like you when you mess up their dream
Or they just think he overrated
@@pstratos7 LMAO fr 😭 "mess up their dream" like Gobert has ever stopped superstars from winning a chip 😂
I go with a combo of overrated and jealousy of his bloated contract.
@@championsforlife1234 curry exposed him real bad in playoffs where he crossed him up and Rudy turned into a ballerina
Again why are y'all responding to my comment because you know it's true ...the haters come out when you do good
Utah should build a Gobert statue near their stadium
"If Gobert isnt an all world defender what is he?" A walking double double lob threat that leads the league in fg% every year that allows perimeter defenders to take bigger risks on plays because they know he can help at the rim
He's barely a lob threat because he has a shit load of trouble catching a basketball and in today's game rim protection is all well and good but if you can't switch out and SOMEWHAT stay with a guard in a pick and roll situation then all the offense is going to do is put you in a pick and roll, pull you out to the 3 point line, iso and attack. All of a sudden your rim protector is worthless. As we are constantly reminded every single year in the playoffs with Rudy Gobert.
What is he? A pick and roll liability, that gets exposed by stretch bigs, and doesn’t have 2 offensive moves that he can go to when needed. U are seeing it in this series
@@kmao508 gobert just had 18-10-3 last game shooting 70% in game 2 he had 19-8-4 shooting 64% and 84% from the line. So if youre not gonna watch the games that's fine but atleast google the box score before you comment saying he cant do anything on offense. Not to mention we have Kat Ant and usually Mcdaniels as scoring options ahead of him but hey I guess 18-10 as a 3rd or fourth option on league high fg% means nothing to a casual and that's cool i guess lol
@@MNPhantom lol. He still doesn’t have 2 offensive moves that he can go to… my point still stands. He’s 7’2” … his points are on putbacks and his teammates feeding him buckets like 4 feet and closer to the rim… lol he ain’t no threat. lol. He though he was the shiznitzz against OKC, … Joker put that “all star defender” in his place. Lol. Oh by the way… how’s that CASUAL trade working out for ya?! Lol. Danny Ainge robbed you guys in broad daylight! Lol.
@@kmao508 Bro doesnt think 18 points on 70% shooting is good offense like bro :x If its all put backs hes a threat on the board and they have to gameplan around boxing him out? L Take but good try, Just keep following the media narrative
Minnesota out there playing with 2 centers
As a wolves fan, i can confirm i hate being a wolves fan.
As a warriors fan I wish I could give you some words of encouragement but I can't wolves management is ass
Kyle Anderson saying “I gotta make a decision this summer” like he’s lebron or something 😆😂
This is by far the best even analysis of the wolves situation. Moving KAT, embracing the defense and building around ANT is the key.
Tim Konely destroyed Denver, and now he is destroying Minesota.
I been a Wolves fan since 2010 since my company works with MSU, but they have made some crazy draft choices. The people of MN are awesome though!!!!! Go Mavericks of MSU!!!!
Can it be a coincidence that Wolves GM Tim Connelly and Bulls GM Arturas Karnisovas both ruined their new teams in 1-2 years and both came from the Nuggets organization? That front office lucked out drafting Jokic omg
0:21 Knicks- hold my beer
Dude is in his early twenties he’s not gonna leave just now
Anthony Edwards dropped 36 in his playoffs debut last year
They had such a nice team last year, sure, rebounding and rim protection wasnt great but they looked like the better (yet dumber) team in the Memphis series. I think the main problem is that new GMs dont want to fine tune but want to make big changes, which is a big risk. Lets also not forget that the other two "allin" trades also havent really worked yet, Cleveland is already eliminated and Atlanta hasnt been much better than Minnesota
This just in Kyle Anderson (top 500 player in the league): "yall got a decision to make this summer" :X
BRO!!!!
It really is the wolves 🐺 Minnesota fans, natives, and those that have lived in MN know this already about all our teams 😅
i love ant. i hope he gets to a competitive team someday
I fundamentally believe it's sports management culture within the Minnesota state as a whole. It's why the Vikings, twins, and wolves can't catch a break ever. Granted the Wild and Lynx do good, so maybe they need cross sports collaboration with the leaders of those entities for feedback
The Wild do good???? 8 straight first round playoff exits dude. Honestly the Vikings are the best run Minnesota organization, but even then the Twins are the only team who have ever won anything. So I'm interested how you're grading this
This one hurts! 😢😢😢
I thought the Gobert trade was good - adding in defense, rim/shot-blocking, and rebounding - if they capped it at 4 picks. Horrible fit. I was way wrong. Lol!
facts and what makes it worse is kessler would have been such a better fit. but i didnt mind our chances for this year had mcdaniels not hurt himself....ugh being a wolves fan is frustrating
The only real horrible fit has been KAT. I just don’t know how you build a defense around him. Trade him and this team will get even better.
MJ's case is different. In those days, you entered the League after 4 years in college. He entered aged 23
They drafted Kris Dunn instead of the Dude who is currently destroying them
Poverty Franchise
Exactly
I agree to AM Hoops on this one.
Ant is my favorite young player in the league. I would love to see him in NY in like 5 years.
For his sake, I hope he gets luckier than New York.
Knicks and Nets are clown ass franchises too
@@mitchtherevolution Knicks hate continues lol
@@johnnykushu2436 It's true though, everyone knows that the Knicks are one of the worst franchises in sports. Ant deserves to go to a good place.
@@CpttCanada Despite their owner, Knicks are on the upswing. Besides, I don’t think NY would be the best place for him to thrive anyways. It’s definitely not for everyone.
@@CpttCanada Minnesota fans deserve for Ant to stay in Minnesota and the franchise to change for good.
Yes, it's easy to believe Jordan didn't win until age 28.
He had to wait until the Celtics and Pistons got old and needed a few seasons for Pippen and Grant to grow into All Star and all NBA defensive caliber players.
there is no worse pain than being a timberwolves fan
Tim Connely the GM didn't made the trade but it's their owner who unfortunately is still under the influence of PED
It doesn't matter. Minnesota just doesn't care about basketball. The most popular teams in the state are the Vikings, the Twins, the Gophers (college football), the Wild (hockey), and then the Timberwolves. Now you can argue as to whether that's a chicken or egg problem, but it just doesn't matter. NBA caliber talent is not going to want to stay in Minnesota when they can make a move for a major urban market, like Chicago, Miami, New York, Boston, Los Angeles, need I go on?
The Vikings last championship was in 1969.
Baseball is the fastest declining sport in national popularity.
You're totally right though, it absolutely does not matter what happens in Minnesota.
@@mitchtherevolution The Vikings have *never* won the Super Bowl or a NFL Championship. That doesn't matter, however, what matters is whether your team is competitive. The Vikings are 7th out of 32 teams in terms of overall win percentage, and have made the playoffs 5 of the last 10 seasons.
@@AaronMichaelLong
Only a fan of trash ass team would say some shit like "winning championships doesn't matter"
That's fucking precious.
Thank you for being your best self.
@@mitchtherevolution You're what adults call a "fair weather fan". Go ask your Mom who your real father was, if she even knows.
I really didn't see Rudy as an elite, but just a tall dude in a good jazz team.
Ok, the 2010 draft bit is really in hindsight, no one though that Hayward/George would end up becoming that good or worth of a number 4 pick. At the time the only real answers based on upside were either trading up for Favors/Turner or picking Cousins cause of upside.
The rest? Aside from trading KAT replace Finch with a coach that can actually draw some plays in the 4th quarter.
This has to be another Monta Ellis type of situation, we have to part with our start to move on to a better project
The wolves man.... I feel for them. Cuz I'm a Suns fan, we have our own crap lol.
At least you guys can make it to the finals every so often lol
This video hasn't aged well
The Minnesota Timberwolves traded for Rudy Gobert in preparation for the arrival of Victor Wembanyama. A guy like VW can demand to go anywhere.
If KAT had jimmy mentality man.
yup, those are my timberwolves
Sadly true
I’m also 90 percent sure that Tim Connelly drafted both Donavan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert to Denver originally, but then traded both of them on draft night to Utah… same story as Walker Kessler. I’m 100% he did that with Donavan.
We need the front office of the Lynx
Once he signs the fat contract, he’ll suddenly realize it
Gobert needs to get back to his 2020 form when he put the entire league on lockdown.
The gobert trade is legitimately shocking. The nba2k12 ai wouldve done better no cap
Ant really trickin yall bruh. Has potential but he isnt even all-star level rn, he has a lot to improve upon.
Ant is a stud don’t know wat u sipping
@@charliedemilio5779he needs a ton of work
Every since they drafted Johnny Flynn and Ricky Rubio, in the same draft, I gave up on them.
As a Jazz fan I love this trade for the Jazz Kessler already has more 3s made than Gobert
Enjoy no playoffs for the next 5 years
You may rather say: “What was Connely thinking?” And: “What was the front-office thinking getting Connely?”
Dude counted Bolmaro as a pick 😂
I feel bad for bro
If you fused Rudy and KAT, you would have one complete player.
The two combined are still SOFT 😂😂
It is pronunced "Bolmaro"
Wow that was a horrible trade...and they're down 0-3 too...what were they thinking?
Was Tim Conley the GM who traded with the Jazz at the drafts where they got Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert? I smell smoke. 💨 🔥
This hurts but it true trade Rudy for picks and cut some players or trade them
I wish the t wolves owner watched this
Who's in charge of player development for the Nuggets.