How to build a Hydrogen Fuel Cell Semi Truck? - Hydrotec Factory Tour

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  • Today we learn how to build a Hydrogen powered Semi Truck. Big Trucks and their drivers make the world go round. These 18-Wheelers are everywhere. But what if we could replace a Semi's fossil fuel engine - with a Hydrogen Fuel Cell? Today we hang out with Hydrotech at their Pontiac Engineering center: www.gmhydrotec.com/ This video is not sponsored.
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  • @marsgizmo
    @marsgizmo ปีที่แล้ว +226

    the hair cap was the best touch! 😂
    ..would definitely be cool to see a Hydrogen Powered Humvee 😎

    • @josephoduor2358
      @josephoduor2358 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You took the words right out of my mouth. I saw the cap and started asking myself, "Why?"

    • @ffktrc
      @ffktrc ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hydrogen is HIGHLY explosive. That's a GREAT idea on a battlefield... if you're really want to lose.

    • @ClanChapman1rRS
      @ClanChapman1rRS ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Arnold Schwarzenegger has a hydrogen hummer. He had it built when he was Governor of California.

    • @johncs154
      @johncs154 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's missing the mustache and beard cover lol

    • @laserlemons1577
      @laserlemons1577 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johncs154 For some reason all the clean room jobs I've had required hair nets even if you're bald but don't require beard nets if you're face is shaved.

  • @WHATSINSIDEFAMILY
    @WHATSINSIDEFAMILY ปีที่แล้ว +213

    Interesting tech! More Jerry in lab coat videos pls

  • @timvandijknl
    @timvandijknl ปีที่แล้ว +629

    So... basically this is a true hybrid in the sense of the word. It uses a form of fuel to generate electricity, which then moves the vehicle. You get the benefits of an electric drivetrain (instant torque, consistent power output, low maintenance) but without the range restrictions, as fueling up the hydrogen cells is a lot quicker than charging a batterypack. I like it.

    • @Shigles
      @Shigles ปีที่แล้ว +12

      battery rotor in place of engine and 2 generators(thu convertion )) this truck will drive forever

    • @Dat_Sun
      @Dat_Sun ปีที่แล้ว

      Extremely expensive, we're talking millions of dollars for a fuel cell, Rare Earth minerals that we do not have enough of to make this happen on mass.
      + Trucking companies can't keep thieves from stealing computer modules from freightliners, People can't keep catalytic converters on their vehicles and you think a multi million dollar fuel cell hydrogen vehicle is a good idea? This same exact technology has been failing over and over for a 100 years now, it's nothing new, it's the same played out sham for tax cattle dollars every single time.
      I remember in the eighties some guy made a Mayo jar hydrogen bubbler dune buggy, nothing mysterious about it but it made the newspapers and everyone thought big oil killed him off lol.
      This is 6th grade elementary school science fair technology. What's missing here is nobody is talking about the negatives of hydrogen powered transportation. Both burning it directly through an internal combustion engine or using a fuel cell both have serious limitations which were not touched on in the video.

    • @carnsoaks1
      @carnsoaks1 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Toyota been trying for years and failing. This won't be any better.

    • @Poxenium
      @Poxenium ปีที่แล้ว

      That is false. You waste ~66% of the energy, it has really high maintenance, takes oxygen from the air, it's really hard to fill your tanks to 100%, because of the high pressure...etc...
      IT'S a SCAM.

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Hydrogen isn't "fuel" it's a "storage medium" ..... A Battery.
      It's just a hugely inefficient one.
      The "must have huge range" mantra is a misconception (I could call it something else)
      .
      Truck outranges driver.
      Truck charges during driver rest period.
      Truck outranges driver to end of day.
      Slow charge overnight.
      Repeat.
      Is all that's needed.

  • @AniketTurkel
    @AniketTurkel ปีที่แล้ว +197

    Loved the concept of using fuel cells in trucks. And Zach was being very clear in explaining how the fuel cell works. Would love to see a day when this is actually commercially used in vehicles.

    • @bnkh
      @bnkh ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket The problem is that producing and gathering hydrogen uses at this time uses more energy than you can get out of it so its not currently worth using until it gets cheaper.

    • @citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936
      @citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@bnkh The latest and greatest of nuclear power plants has been introduced that theoretically can isolate hydrogen on the cheap, at the same time as producing energy via steam generation, and no meltdown or thermal runaway issues.

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936
      Come back when it's more than "a theory" and they actually BUILD those plants, build enough of them, and get the energy cost down to that of renewables.
      Then you MIGHT have a case.
      But since they're not ready and current builds take far too long, are 3 times the cost of even offshore wind to build and the energy is 2.5 times the price, I think it's going to be a while.

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket
      How is a battery toxic when it produces zero pollution over its multi decade use life and can be 98% recycled (no, they don't and won't go to landfill.....)
      In fact that they're worth recycling will mean that the batteries from your old phone, power tools, etc which probably DO go to landfill now, will be worth collecting to throw onto the same grinder they use to begin the separation process.

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@rogerstarkey5390 It's funny to me how the world managed to solve lead acid battery recycling, but so many people don't think that battery recycling for other battery technology can be solved.

  • @lucasarcanjo887
    @lucasarcanjo887 ปีที่แล้ว +1480

    But does it scratch at level 6, with deeper grooves at level 7?

    • @Jawd3544
      @Jawd3544 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      We need the bend test

    • @arunchandran5081
      @arunchandran5081 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      😂😂super

    • @enzo39472
      @enzo39472 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brasileiro é foda kkkkk

    • @dhruv0503
      @dhruv0503 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Flame test would lit🔥

    • @AdemOmerovicBA
      @AdemOmerovicBA ปีที่แล้ว +11

      For sure it wouldn't pass the flame test 😅🎉

  • @ericcamilia5390
    @ericcamilia5390 ปีที่แล้ว +316

    Hey Zack, this is the most clear and understandable hydrogen fuel cell video I have ever watched. Thanks.

  • @GrandPotatoe
    @GrandPotatoe ปีที่แล้ว +155

    These are probably my favorite segment of the JerryRig series.

    • @JerryRigEverything
      @JerryRigEverything  ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Thank you!!

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JerryRigEverything
      Sun to wheels cost analysis required.... The complete system, not just "here's the hydrogen in the tank"
      False promises.

    • @ron200088
      @ron200088 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rogerstarkey5390 I agree. The cost and the sustainability of such a technological endeavor would be nice to know. Not denying, looks promising, but the video barely scratches the surface. Good to know at least that such technologies are in constant development.

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ron200088
      My point being it's horrendously inefficient IF you look at the whole system.
      It's the same thing that happens with EV vs Fossil fuel. They never account properly for the "Well to wheel" cost of oil based fuels, but always give us the "Ooooo! What about all that electricity??"
      Well, Hydrogen needing 3 times the grid energy for similar distance MUST be accounted for.

    • @ron200088
      @ron200088 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rogerstarkey5390 Agreed ! Even though as Zack also mentions, the technology has improved and it’s still improving, it is still a long way away from being efficient and actually being a sustainable way of reducing CO2 emissions. Not denying that it’s a step forward in the right way, but it is definitely not there yet. Of course, it looks cool and all and the less tech savvy people might think as in the case of the electric vehicles, that it is already efficient and sustainable, but that could not be further from the truth. In my opinion, we are decades away from having such technologies being efficient and sustainable. Let’s be honest, as long as there are fossil fuels out there and there is a lot of money to be made, such technologies are more or less a curtain of smoke. And until they become affordable and sustainable for the majority, it all looks good on paper, but in reality it will remain a niche segment for the select few.

  • @grantandre79
    @grantandre79 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Really great to see and understand what’s happening inside the stack! When something like that is commercially (or, privately) available you should absolutely make a hydrogen HUMVEE. The build process would be fascinating to watch.

    • @americansmark
      @americansmark ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can buy one already. I forget the company name, but there is one that converts Hummers and HMMWV trucks to hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. I'm sure it isn't cheap, but it'd be awesome to own.

  • @BenWillKing
    @BenWillKing ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For comparison, the classic steam locomotives operated at 250-350 psi. If the boiler ever exploded, they caused catastrophic damage, and shot pieces of locomotive as far as a mile away. Now we're talking 10,000 psi. If these things are ever in a bad wreck...

    • @alwar5822
      @alwar5822 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its not the same, gas density reduces the stored energy enough to not be that hazardous

  • @galgrunfeld9954
    @galgrunfeld9954 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    The vehicle videos lately have been really interesting IMO, would love more!

  • @Nick-HBC
    @Nick-HBC ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It’s awesome how you insert yourself into the process. Instead of you filming someone else doing it and explaining the process YOU get to do it and show us. Cool!

  • @acanvil
    @acanvil ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I wonder why they made you use a hair mesh? 👀 Love your videos!

  • @DigitalHDx
    @DigitalHDx ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Got to see and learn about the first electric semi truck every registered in New York State. Peterbilt truck in Syracuse, NY operating out of a FedEx facility. It was very cool and awesome to hear how quiet it is. And how quick, they did a demonstration of the instant torque and I was impressed.

    • @TheOnlyName
      @TheOnlyName ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice to hear! I wish there were more electric semi trucks here. Maybe even some Tesla semis...

  • @gregsimpson621
    @gregsimpson621 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fascinating video! You've done quite a few videos on solar power and other sources for electricity energy but this hydrogen process is simply fascinating!!! Thank you so much for the education. And I never realized trucking contributes to 30% of our carbon emissions. This could become a "game changer" in regards to our carbon footprints. Thank Jerry!

  • @liambohl
    @liambohl ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is some pretty cool and important technology. Thanks for sharing it with us!
    That said, the best way to reduce emissions from transportation is to reduce how much people need to drive in the first place.

  • @jeremiahhyatt6935
    @jeremiahhyatt6935 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been working on the project since last March. Awesome to see it getting some recognition!!!

  • @saumyajana2925
    @saumyajana2925 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He never stops amazing us with these amazing informative videos. Thanks and hats off.

  • @journeyon1983
    @journeyon1983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very impressive what they are doing with hydrogen. Thanks for sharing Zack.

  • @user-dx9sj5qq3w
    @user-dx9sj5qq3w 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So cool, thank you Zack, these are some of the best videos on TH-cam.

  • @Alexk77777
    @Alexk77777 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Amazing video and interesting technology!

    • @Dat_Sun
      @Dat_Sun ปีที่แล้ว

      It's old as dirt technology that fails in the same way over and over again. The only thing hydrogen vehicles have ever done is make a limited amount of people very wealthy off of tax cattle funding.
      Once you realize hydrogen is not an energy source you will see this scam clear as day. Jerry should be embarrassed for even suggesting this is a good idea and will not reply to inconvenient comments such as the ones I am leaving.

  • @Blaster_Unity_UB
    @Blaster_Unity_UB ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's quite good & relieving to see such tech being used!

    • @N0N0111
      @N0N0111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hydrogen is in a lift up, see couple countries start huge production facilities.

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's worrying, wasting energy.

    • @Pawer8
      @Pawer8 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rogerstarkey5390 doesn't matter the sun has plenty of that. As long as it's green energy h2 production is irrelevant

  • @ndafarachaitezvi1139
    @ndafarachaitezvi1139 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along

  • @alibhg9935
    @alibhg9935 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm more amazed by how you had to wear headpiece cover in the lab
    Great explanation for fuel cell and hydrogen fuel Jerry ❤

  • @Shanghaimartin
    @Shanghaimartin ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Zack wearing a hairnet made me chuckle :)

  • @darkkforest
    @darkkforest ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That video will be a fun ride. I love those episodes.

    • @derrekvanee4567
      @derrekvanee4567 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jerry rig moderators controlled by a psrty too. TH-cam is dead or the gvnt after me. *have fun folks*

  • @PEN32
    @PEN32 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is great. One of the best you made! From obvious reason. Clear energy

  • @shankaragoudakoti8405
    @shankaragoudakoti8405 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep making more videos on these type of new tech Zack , I really enjoyed it and very good information about industrial engineering

  • @AK474000
    @AK474000 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Trains have been using this exact method granted with Diesel engines, but like was explained trains could be adapted to this very easily and just makes a ton of sense for trucks and transport vehicles as well.

  • @EvilScientist
    @EvilScientist ปีที่แล้ว +17

    glad to see some actual advancements being made for semis instead of cgi marketing bullshit that does nothing

    • @navdeepsingh3508
      @navdeepsingh3508 ปีที่แล้ว

      *ahem ahem* musky waters

    • @vskrand
      @vskrand ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@navdeepsingh3508 Musk's semi literally rolled down with gravity from a hill, he couldn't even be bothered to make a cgi ad

    • @_aullik
      @_aullik ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There have been hydrogen trucks for a while. Mercedes made one a while ago. The problem is that hydrogen simply makes no sense economically. The fuel cells are extremely expensive (platinum) and don't last too long. The efficiency is bad and the fuel itself is also expensive. hydrogen has ~33.33 kWh/kg with an efficiency of ~50%. Diesel has 10.7 kWh/l with an efficiency of ~30% for trucks. That means 1kg of hydrogen gives you as much range as ~5l of diesel. This truck has 60kg of hydrogen which is equivalent to ~311L of diesel or ~82 gallon. That is not a lot of range for a truck.

    • @MrArcticPOWER
      @MrArcticPOWER ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I havent' seen much advancements in this video, this is decades old technologies. All I saw is an incredibly complicated EV truck with huge underpowered and expensive fuel cells, a 200kWh battery and a cab filled with insanely expensive carbon fiber tanks that are good for at most 500 miles.
      I don't think musk's truck is any better, but this video is misleading at best.

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrArcticPOWER
      You're on the money.

  • @purenatural5736
    @purenatural5736 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great video! Simple, informative and detailed. Thank you!

  • @Juhcarro
    @Juhcarro ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny enough I just wrote a research paper on hydrogen cars for my English class. This was a really nice video highlighting all the benefits of it that people seem to not know about.

  • @raulrx5700xt
    @raulrx5700xt ปีที่แล้ว +16

    these tutorials really coming in clutch

  • @mo_mo1995
    @mo_mo1995 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Can you harness the cooling power of expanding hydrogen to power some air conditioning or refrigeration system? That sounds like a lot of cooling power wasted.

    • @Dat_Sun
      @Dat_Sun ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Jerry, why is there so many accounts with inappropriate names and advertising for p*** in their description getting unbelievable amount of likes almost instantly here in the comments? Are you Jerry rigging your comment section for likes?

    • @Dat_Sun
      @Dat_Sun ปีที่แล้ว

      Momo, no that would not be practical at all. You would be using up far more hydrogen from the cylinder than is required for an ice engine or fuel cell.

  • @MarioNotBros
    @MarioNotBros ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this kind of video. This was very interesting!

  • @g6autobot
    @g6autobot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be really cool to see the Whisper project upgraded with Hydrogen tanks! Great Video. Thanks again for all the content.

  • @markkirui8348
    @markkirui8348 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i like the new channel diversity

  • @Hunter116
    @Hunter116 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Zack wearing that hair net... 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Squirrel_101
    @Squirrel_101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating video Jerry!

  • @GiMeDaCash
    @GiMeDaCash ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a truck driver, I've always been more interested in hydrogen than electric trucks. In this video, he mentions that it has a battery to help with acceleration at slow speeds. That makes me question its abilities with climbing mountains since over half my nightly run is through the mountains.
    The part where it's pointed out how quiet the inside of the truck is..all modern trucks are that quiet. My diesel Peterbilt day cab is just as quiet.
    Observations I've made in this video include how much length this adds to the truck. It makes a day cab the same length as a sleeper truck, which in turn would make sleeper trucks too long to navigate many places. Current hydrogen-powered trucks have smaller boxes behind the cab, adding almost no length. Many of our trucks are single-axel daycabs, and adding that box would make them too big to navigate many of our customers. (LTL) My truck is a twin axle since I'm a linehaul driver, but I share it with a city driver who needs it to be as short as possible.
    Another is the infrastructure. We fuel on-site at my terminal since we have 250 day cabs, half of which run 24 hours a day. Changing the terminal and trucks to accommodate hydrogen would be a huge undertaking.
    I've been following hydrogen technology in aviation, and I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do.

  • @miguel727_OG
    @miguel727_OG ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hi Jerry, great video! Not sure if someone already commented but it will be interesting to know the costs of using this technology compared to standard ICE and electric motors

    • @joelimbergamo639
      @joelimbergamo639 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      For now Hydrogen technology and Hydrogen itself is more expensive as its a relly niche market. But compared to battery powered, for trucks hydrogen makes more sense

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@joelimbergamo639 Most commercially available hydrogen gas is "blue" hydrogen, being a byproduct of fossil fuel production. "Green" hydrogen created from electrolysis is more expensive. The big downside of green hydrogen is once you take electricity, use it to produce hydrogen, and use a fuel cell to get electricity back out you have lost most of the energy. Batteries are just much more efficient.

    • @joelimbergamo639
      @joelimbergamo639 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eDoc2020 agreed. But for big boats and plains batteries arent an option. And for trucks its at the limit . I know that hydrogen is supper inefficient when you consider all the process but its the best way to store energy in a weight-efficient manner we have rn. When weight osnt a big concern batteries are clearly the better option but in vehicles at some point it starts counting

  • @LashanR
    @LashanR ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is really cool, and I've learnt a lot about how a fuel cell actually works, super interesting! The platinum catalyst is a concern though. Platinum is extremely rare, and I did some calculations - if you were to take all of the world's platinum reserves and turn them into these Hydrotec cubes, they would generate 3.09 gigawatts of power, which would be about 0.067% of the world's energy consumption by vehicles. Even if I was way off in my calculations it's still miniscule. Unless if a different catalyst is found this isn't really viable.

    • @MarkEichin
      @MarkEichin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was the enough information in the video to tell what fraction of the ink is actually platinum? (I'm a little surprised that it's still the best choice, but chemistry is like that sometimes - the science-fair-project fuel cell I built 40 years ago used a very low fraction suspension of platinum painted on to a nickel screen for the electrode.) There is probably still some room to improve since the only place where the platinum is useful is on the surface where the reaction occurs...

    • @ryoukokonpaku1575
      @ryoukokonpaku1575 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thankfully there's newer research on alternatives for the catalyst. One promising one is carbon coated Nickle which has almost the same efficiency as Platinum without the same price tag.

    • @DafterHindi
      @DafterHindi ปีที่แล้ว

      i hope they find other catalysts soon

    • @jimurrata6785
      @jimurrata6785 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not as if almost every vehicle on the road isn't mandated to have a catalytic converter, that uses platinum, palladium and rhodium already....
      Fuel cell vehicles are a stupid waste of energy (IMO) but your argument falls flat on its face.

    • @DafterHindi
      @DafterHindi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimurrata6785 why do combustion engines need those metals?

  • @squeezedoz
    @squeezedoz ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible review and insight. Fantastic company!

  • @coolalexg14
    @coolalexg14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DAMN! You got HELLA access to this lab. I don't know many labs this much access!

  • @AdamLinkous
    @AdamLinkous ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd be curious how well the exhaust works in frigid climates.

  • @l.rod2827
    @l.rod2827 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Great tech, just worry about the 6 10K PSI tanks when involved in an accident. I've read that these tanks are very robust however they can become an issue. Nonetheless, great tech!

    • @miasinterestinglife
      @miasinterestinglife ปีที่แล้ว +5

      As far as I understood it, in case there was an accident, that hydrogen would be gone into the upper parts of the atmosphere before anything serious could happen

    • @colingoldthorpe5918
      @colingoldthorpe5918 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@miasinterestinglife The Hydrogen would explode and catch fire, it's a flammable Gas so one source of ignition and up it goes. It is also a colourless flame that typically can only be seen with a thermal image camera. H2 is a fire fighters nightmare ask any of them.

    • @phalanx3803
      @phalanx3803 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@miasinterestinglife exactly it doesn't hang around like petrol fumes even on a calm day hydrogen doesn't want to hang around.

    • @ryoukokonpaku1575
      @ryoukokonpaku1575 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@phalanx3803 Yep, Toyota's mirai hydrogen car was crash tested as well as fire tested. On the fire test it basically vented all the hydrogen straight up the atmosphere since they're lighter than air, it was basically a blowtorch flame that died out after the fuel got expended than an explosion. They also tested shooting the tank with a 60 cal rifle and it did the same, it vented the gas than blowing up.

    • @77bigbonez
      @77bigbonez ปีที่แล้ว

      I would also like more info on this. Seems weird to have 6 large grenades behind me as I drive down the highway.

  • @wego-k4811
    @wego-k4811 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love how you go through so much to get these videos 👍👍👍

  • @kodak_jack
    @kodak_jack ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The whole GM fuel cell development program was being done in the Rochester, N.Y. area for at least 20 years when it was suddenly shut down. Now, in all of its glory, it show sup in Michigan. Have your people look into that.

  • @JZabala22
    @JZabala22 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would love to see a new Hummer project. This would be a perfect H2 (Hydrogen Hummer)

  • @leledumbo
    @leledumbo ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Still as complex as combustion engine, I can see why the industry is NOT moving this way.

    • @__shaun__
      @__shaun__ ปีที่แล้ว +6

      more complex! and consumes platinum. this tech has been around for decades and hasn't improved in any meaningful way or been deployed at scale because it can't and isn't economically viable.
      it's even worse when you consider energy inefficiency losses and leaks
      weight and cost of a safe tank is the final nail in the coffin

    • @MrEazyE357
      @MrEazyE357 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not to mention that we don't even have enough platinum reserves to scale this up in any meaningful way.

    • @ryoukokonpaku1575
      @ryoukokonpaku1575 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrEazyE357 There's newer catalysts now that uses carbon coated nickle which only has comparable efficiency which is much cheaper and common too.

    • @fireWireX4
      @fireWireX4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So what's better? A large semi with a 60,000 kg weight limit and 10,000kg is just pure battery???those batteries weigh A LOT!!!!

    • @__shaun__
      @__shaun__ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fireWireX4 Tesla Semi is only approx 10% heavier than a diesel semi. Hydrogen will be somewhere between the two. Lithium is better due to higher efficiency and lower operating costs.

  • @levisteber
    @levisteber ปีที่แล้ว

    The company I work for just built a electric 43 foot boat. We plan on adding hydrogen cells to it but for instal testing she's all electric. It's so awesome to see this technology finally at a point where it can be sold and used practically

  • @tg614
    @tg614 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    very nicely broken down "easy" to understand Thanks for the time

  • @nedj10
    @nedj10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love to know where they expect to get a world level supply of Platinum to make this work :)

    • @WolfTronix
      @WolfTronix ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Catalytic converters.

    • @phalanx3803
      @phalanx3803 ปีที่แล้ว

      yea a little bit of a problem. but its about time we started to find a way to make our own Platinum. we can make diamonds so why not other materials?

    • @ryoukokonpaku1575
      @ryoukokonpaku1575 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's newer catalysts now that uses carbon coated nickle, it has comparable efficiency with platinum.

  • @CATA20034
    @CATA20034 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The problem with fuel cell is related to it's efficiency.... up to 50%. So adding all the production, storage losses, you are geting close to diesel.

    • @jimurrata6785
      @jimurrata6785 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're already past diesel...
      But you meet clean air regulations! 😉

  • @mjc0961
    @mjc0961 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't believe for a second that hydrogen will be the future of the average person's day to day driving. MAYBE they can get it working for large vehicles like semis, but passenger cars? Forget it. BEVs, with new battery technologies that will spank lithium based batteries, are the future. That said, it's still cool to see and learn about this technology. Thanks for taking the time to share this with us.
    Also no, I don't think you should build a hydrogen powered humvee, unless there's actually a hydrogen refueling station nearby so you can use it, hahaha.

  • @romeochivenge7136
    @romeochivenge7136 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot u r my knowledge base, keep it up

  • @strategicsammy
    @strategicsammy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I probably just learned more science from watching this video than I did in the past 15 years in school.

  • @nonnymoose7005
    @nonnymoose7005 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The hot water exhaust should go to a tap in the cab so that the driver can use it to make tea.

    • @Dat_Sun
      @Dat_Sun ปีที่แล้ว

      That's about all these things going to be good for with its incredibly low payload and range, just like ev trucks. It's a shame hydrogen is not a fuel source this whole idea was flawed from the start.
      Hydrogen is what's called an energy Carrier, Hydrogen is just another demand for fossil fuel. Hydrogen can be "made" with other methods but 99% of the hydrogen on this planet has been manufactured with fossil fuels because it's so energy intensive.

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dat_Sun FCEV range isn't bad and unlike BEVs you can refill extremely quickly.

  • @JRs-Garage
    @JRs-Garage ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic explanation Zack thanks!

  • @iBradenStevens
    @iBradenStevens ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the fantastic video Zack!

  • @qwertylesh
    @qwertylesh ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Zach! What's the meantime between failure rate for the platinum sheeting?
    Does it break down over time similar to an anode would in a lithium battery?
    It would be interesting to know when/frequency that the fuel cells require replacement, and long into future serviceability and cost would also be interesting!
    lastly, it seems insane to me to have stack of 10k PSI tanks behind the head of the vehicle operator. does anyone agree/disagree?

  • @SooDamGood
    @SooDamGood ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice! I don’t believe this will be part of a big future but it’s good they’re doing things like this

  • @Waterfordmaxx
    @Waterfordmaxx ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I would have know you were here!!! I live right down the street from the Powertrain building... and I work at the stamping plant across the street from where you were!!!

  • @AlexanderOBL
    @AlexanderOBL ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the tutorial

  • @CameronVanNatta
    @CameronVanNatta ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I'm curious how a hydrogen semi handles crashes compared to lithium ion and diesel. My intuition would be that the rapid decompression would be very damaging.

    • @adfjasjhf
      @adfjasjhf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd love to see some comparison

    • @minergate4066
      @minergate4066 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      10 000 psi would make a nice fireball

    • @andrewk8636
      @andrewk8636 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It'll blow up like crazy. Diesel doesn't explode unless it's superheated and gas piwer cars have much smaller tanks. Hydrogen on the other hand... hindenburg

    • @platin2148
      @platin2148 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It actually doesn’t blow up at all it is pretty quickly evaporated and that’s it. Explosion’s are extremely unlikely as you need to first ignite it and it would also only burn on the part which was punctured. As it requires Oxygen to burn and there isn’t any in the tank there isn’t really a huge risk.
      There i would be more concerned about the explosion of a battery.

    • @andrewk8636
      @andrewk8636 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@platin2148 you forgot the part where it's under pressure

  • @rogerstarkey5390
    @rogerstarkey5390 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did anyone ask about the expected life of the fuel cells, or how much they cost to replace?

    • @tullo5564
      @tullo5564 ปีที่แล้ว

      And about the possible explosion which will be like a nuke

  • @ChristianRB
    @ChristianRB ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The hair net shows how smart this man is. 😂 nice touch Zach

  • @Kuznia_
    @Kuznia_ ปีที่แล้ว

    As always, amazing video Zach. Hope all is well

  • @parmitsingh8167
    @parmitsingh8167 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    It’s awesome seeing progress in the hydrogen vehicle market!

    • @Dat_Sun
      @Dat_Sun ปีที่แล้ว

      No it is not. Hydrogen powered vehicles are a complete sham, and there's the inconvenient fact that hydrogen is an energy Carrier just like a battery it is not an energy source it is not solving our problems, hydrogen nonsense is adding to the load on our grid.

    • @ProjectPhysX
      @ProjectPhysX ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What progress? The abysmal electrochemic energy efficiency is a hard physical limit and no innovation can fix it. The same energy can power 5x the vehicles if they had batteries instead. Hydrogen in ground traffic is just dumb, and every hydrogen car/truck startup will eventually go belly up.

    • @Dat_Sun
      @Dat_Sun ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ProjectPhysX Lol and diesel packs over a 100 times the energy density of those bulky heavy payload eating storage batteries. Remember batteries are not an energy source but an energy Carrier just like the hydrogen sham.
      A hydrogen powered semi would be more energy dense than any electric semi, that's a fact you cannot get around, batteries are insanely heavy my friend.

    • @GBR9794
      @GBR9794 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Dat_Sun Don't mind him, he is clearly a Tesla shill and stock investor. It is all about believes and cult mindset when it comes to Tesla.

    • @ProjectPhysX
      @ProjectPhysX ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GBR9794 battery-powered trucks are also no alternative and their Semi business will fail. Some applications don't yet have a viable "green" alternative.

  • @Johnny_Kanuk
    @Johnny_Kanuk ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really enjoyed this video. Thanks Jerry. I drive long haul and there is just no way a battery powered truck could work. Hydrogen is the best fuel alternative for the long haul trucks. Keep the electric ones for the last mile and short haul stuff. I'm pretty sure switching diesel fuel pumps over to Hydrogen would be easier than charge plugs. I'm excited to see this is getting closer to reality. They just need to make the fueling process idiot proof, trust me if you saw what some of these drivers do to regular pumps, you would have concerns about Hydrogen pumps in their hands.

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 ปีที่แล้ว

      How long do you drive (legally) without a break?

    • @Johnny_Kanuk
      @Johnny_Kanuk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rogerstarkey5390 I do about 10.5hrs total. I will go for about 6 hours straight then do my mandated 30 minute break, I have to do that 30 minutes within 8hrs of starting my day. Then along the way I will stop every so often for a 10 minute break to just get out and stretch the legs and back. Not as young as I use to be and my back lets me know it. HA Legally we are allowed 11 hours of driving in the US, in Canada I can do 13 hours, but in both countries you only have a maximum of 14 hours of driving and On Duty time on your logs. So if you start at 7am your day will end at 9pm, no matter if you drove 1 hour or 11 hours. It sounds like a lot of hours but you get stuck at a customer loading or off loading, get caught up in a traffic back up and there go your hours. It's happened to me so many times I just laugh and say It gets there when it gets there.

    • @ryoukokonpaku1575
      @ryoukokonpaku1575 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Johnny_Kanuk It's also the same case from what I recall for heavy machinery. They're also favoring hydrogen for lesser downtime, especially for big equipment that may be used in multiple shifts via driver swaps to lessen downtime which costs money for companies.

  • @chayavut
    @chayavut ปีที่แล้ว

    Really Awesome Tech

  • @wyattboynton3129
    @wyattboynton3129 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love these “How it’s made” type videos!

  • @Kauppamopo
    @Kauppamopo ปีที่แล้ว +5

    might be most common element in the world but its never alone, always stuck to something

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly.
      And it takes ENERGY to break the bond.
      It baffles me that Smart people can't see this.
      They look at "efficiency" of a tiny part of a system, instead of the whole system.
      .
      There's going to be a scandal when operators realised they're being charged for ALL the grid energy being used further up the chain.

  • @dchapman2316
    @dchapman2316 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Finally someone who can talk interestingly and intelligently to people who have a hard time seeing that Hydrogen may be what powers us into the future! Thanks

  • @usmanamjad1678
    @usmanamjad1678 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was Waiting for video of this kind

  • @fredrickugarner8278
    @fredrickugarner8278 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes would love to see that!

  • @HRM.H
    @HRM.H ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A company near me just went bankrupt trying to get into hydrogen trucking. Its too early.

    • @santeenl
      @santeenl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nikola? 😂

    • @HRM.H
      @HRM.H ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​​​​​​​​​​​​@@santeenl nee, Hyzon Holthausen. Er zijn talloze waterstof vrachtwagen fabrikanten falliet gegaan in de laatste 2 jaren. Ze doen veel promotie en maken grote beloftes om investeerders aan te trekken, maar er komt uiteindelijk niets van terecht.

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 ปีที่แล้ว

      It will NEVER be the right time.

  • @ForTheBirbs
    @ForTheBirbs ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The first hydrogen powered semi is now used by PepsiCo in Australia. So beyond an engineering sample

    • @CACressida
      @CACressida ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's several Toyota/Kenworth hydrogen trucks running around LA for years.

    • @ryoukokonpaku1575
      @ryoukokonpaku1575 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CACressida They've also committed to commercial operations recently due to their success with the pilot program tests with real-world customers on LA. Kenworth is starting builds right now powered by Toyota's FC drivetrain with orders available early 2024 if I recall.

  • @oli74111
    @oli74111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The platinum film part has quite a few similarities to Smarter Everyday Canon film factory tour! A good watch as well!

  • @alfblack2
    @alfblack2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love it. I think i've been hearing abouit hydrogen fuel cells since the 80s. I am happy to see an actual prototype rig running.

  • @enam98
    @enam98 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hydrogen powered house 😍

    • @LinkinPark4Ever1996
      @LinkinPark4Ever1996 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kaboom

    • @chunkplunk
      @chunkplunk ปีที่แล้ว

      dumbest comment I've ever seen

    • @ProjectPhysX
      @ProjectPhysX ปีที่แล้ว

      The most dumb idea I've heard in a long time. Why not blow the energy directly out of the window, along with loads of money?
      For ground storage you can use cheap battery chemistry (energy density does not matter), that does not waste 80% of the energy you put in as conversion losses. And it does not need super expensive platinum catalyst.

  • @Redthorn57
    @Redthorn57 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I would love to see more about how the hydrogen is produced and distributed at scale. That will be a much large endeavor than the fuel cells themselves - especially in the US.

    • @-PORK-CHOP-
      @-PORK-CHOP- ปีที่แล้ว

      What is the difference in the US as opposed to anywhere else, every country will have the same obstacles to overcome in production and distribution.

  • @SirAdamMeek
    @SirAdamMeek ปีที่แล้ว

    I see it's another beautiful sunny day in Auburn Hills, MI the day you shot this

  • @MrtalentedReid
    @MrtalentedReid ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome Jerry you are the best given us information 😀 and our teacher 😊

  • @Screamingtut
    @Screamingtut ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hey, Zack, you should make a Hydrogen Fuel Cell for your Humvee, so it can charge the batteries to extend your range. this way you can get better mileage. Just Like the ones on the 18-wheeler but just a bit smaller than those. you can store maybe two of the carbon fiber tanks and it can generate enough kilowatts to keep all of your battery packs charged to give you at least two to three times more range. So if I remember correctly from your videos, (I could be off a bit), you were getting about 250 miles on a standard charge. You could get about 500-750 more miles with the addition of a Hydrogen Fuel Cell

    • @VincentGroenewold
      @VincentGroenewold ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Theoretically yes, practically hydrogen is the most difficult gas to contain (and thereby also dangerous when not done well). Which would make it incredibly expensive for such a project.

  • @sketchy5737
    @sketchy5737 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We all know how to make hydrogen powered trucks, Nikola taught us well after all...

    • @pw7225
      @pw7225 ปีที่แล้ว

      Step 1. Find a hill.

  • @planetminecraft411
    @planetminecraft411 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really cool video! 😎

  • @josepharaujo4414
    @josepharaujo4414 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hydrogen makes total sense for longhaul transportation. Great video!

  • @MiguelRPD
    @MiguelRPD ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This seems like a better idea than batteries. But wouldnt a ton of these trucks on the road create black ice in colder climates ?

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you notice the hydrogen was just "in the tank"?
      .
      Consider the extra Grid infrastructure you need for this over and above straight battery storage. (Hydrogen is just a STORAGE medium, like a battery)

  • @beerman1957
    @beerman1957 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m concerned about how the hydrogen is produced. If it’s with fossil fuels, it’s a bad idea.

    • @koknyoq
      @koknyoq ปีที่แล้ว

      Then EV is the worse idea.

    • @Dat_Sun
      @Dat_Sun ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hydrogen vechicles are really no different than electric vehicles. Both the battery and hydrogen are known as an energy Carrier. Hydrogen has serious limitations and drawbacks when used as a fuel for the internal combustion engine.
      It's definitely not an energy source, I've been seeing hydrogen mayo jar bubbler propaganda over 40 years of my life.

    • @lightning2605
      @lightning2605 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dat_Sun Then what are some carbon-neutral alternatives to fossil fuels that we could start looking into in the future?

    • @ProjectPhysX
      @ProjectPhysX ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Either the H2 is a byproduct of the fossil fuel industry's greenwashing campaign, or it's a waste of electrical energy that could power 5x the number of cars with batteries. Hydrogen for ground traffic is dumb. The poor electrochemic conversion efficiency cannot be fixed.

    • @Dat_Sun
      @Dat_Sun ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lightning2605 There's no need. We already have the solution, fossil fuel. The problem is people have become spoiled and greedy.
      Go car shopping, you will find 400 and 500 horsepower Mustangs, 1000 horsepower electric vehicles that weight close to 10,000 pounds and have almost non existent range.
      Go to the Dodge dealer and you will find 1000 horse power chargers, 800 horsepower Dodge rams with monster truck size tires, Aerodynamically designed to be as hard as possible to push through our atmosphere.
      The solution is 100 horsepower per ton, electric, ice, hydrogen, whatever 100 horsepower per 2000 pounds. Politicians and their vacations all over the world via private jet or military armada need to come to an end.
      All of the wasteful battery manufacturing across the globe needs to come to a screeching hault. Each day billions of gallons of fossil fuels are burned to float junk across the oceans including insanely heavy lithium battery ore to be stamped into a "made in USA battery".
      100hp per ton is a solution. Be practical use 13" tires, maybe live where you need to be and not across the country from your family, stuff like that.

  • @goiterlanternbase
    @goiterlanternbase ปีที่แล้ว

    I like that you are on the pulse of the future😎

  • @ULTR4_DEV
    @ULTR4_DEV ปีที่แล้ว

    Def a video worth liking, and i only like about 1 video a year😮

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Content is so wild I wouldnt be surprised if Jerry eventually makes a functioning makeshift spaceship and goes to Mars

  • @kakarotvegeta5095
    @kakarotvegeta5095 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It would be nice to see tons more Hydrogen Powered cars.

  • @zachowns1023
    @zachowns1023 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty cool!!

  • @franknicholasdale4595
    @franknicholasdale4595 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really interesting, a change from the negative articles. The more research done on hydrogen has to result in efficiency or even develop new technology. Harnessing is a very important key, this process has to improve, exciting time ahead.

  • @Akash-bq2jr
    @Akash-bq2jr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am your big fan uncle I am from india😊 please reply

  • @daniel_wilkinson
    @daniel_wilkinson ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for at least mentioning how energy intensive hydrogen collection is. Personally, I was aware that fossil fuels were going to run out eventually even as a kid in the 70s. I also believed that the changeover to whatever came next is going to be painful and we'd all just better get used to the idea. I didn't know what would come next but I did hope to see it in my lifetime. I didn't see electric being as big a thing as it is and I'm very disappointed that even more of the Earth is being forever scarred to satisfy that hunger.

  • @MAliincontinencelife
    @MAliincontinencelife ปีที่แล้ว

    Good for you guys

  • @admiraltrench6999
    @admiraltrench6999 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sign me up for when they make a car. This is some amazing innovation. With some real funding and and some really smart people working on this, this technology this could overtake electrical as a better solution. People’s main concern with fuel cells is just the use of hydrogen and the safety aspect, but I’m confident you can design robust safety systems you just need time and resources to figure it out just like we have already done with the internal combustion engine.

  • @Buciasda33
    @Buciasda33 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Now imagine exhausting all that water in the winter time.